WEBVTT - What to Expect in the DOJ Epstein Files Release 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:07.200 Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.840 A mid twenty twenty five's blur of news, one story 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.880 keeps coming back. There are new developments in the Jeffrey 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:15.880 Epstein investigation. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:20.120 Related to the case of convicted sex offended financier Jeffrey Epstein. 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.239 There's been a drumbeat of new details about the late 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:27.240 convicted sex trafficker, about his connections to political and financial elite, 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.960 about his emails, all seeming to raise more questions than 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.120 they answer. How did Epstein exploit so many underage girls 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.879 for so long with little consequence while maintaining a circle 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:42.120 of powerful friends. But answers have appeared close at hand. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.400 Here's then presidential candidate Trump on Fox and Friends in 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.239 the summer of twenty twenty four, would you declassify the 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.960 Epstein files? Yeah, Yeah, I would. Now, after months of 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.840 stops and starts and pressure from the left and right, 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.480 the release of the Epstein files may be near. In November, 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.840 the House and Senate past to bill mandating that the 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.399 Department of Justice released the documents within thirty days were 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:06.560 by December nineteenth. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:11.240 It's become the biggest political story of twenty twenty five. 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:15.480 That's Bloomberg investigative reporter Jason Leopold. Jason has been tracking 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.640 the Epstein story closely in his weekly Foy of Files 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.320 newsletter and on his new podcast for Bloomberg called Disclosure. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:27.880 That kind of pressure and that kind of coverage around 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:32.440 it is kind of forced the hand of the Department 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:38.280 of Justice, the FBI, who clearly sought to keep this 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:39.320 under wraps. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.640 Jason's specialty is obtaining documents using the Freedom of Information Act, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.240 so he's just the guy to walk us through what 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.000 to expect when the government is on the clock to 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:55.800 turn over a trove of material. I'm David Gura, and 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.320 this is the big tape from Bloomberg News today on 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.080 the show, What we can expect from the Epstein Files? 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.600 What more is there to learn from these documents? What 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:12.880 the government might release, and what it might hold back. Jason, 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.919 it's hard to believe, but it's been more than six 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.959 years since Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in a jail 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.760 cell in Manhattan, and we do know a good deal 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.400 about him. We've learned a lot more here in recent 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.200 months and years. He was the subject of two federal investigations. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.280 We've heard about the billions of dollars that flowed through 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.040 the accounts that he had at major financial institutions. Then 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.560 of course through the emails the correspondence that we've seen 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.079 a lot of them show his connections to the rich 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:39.320 and powerful. So at this stage, what is there that 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.640 we do not know about Jeffrey Epstein. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.080 There's actually a lot we don't know. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:48.480 What we don't know relates to, certainly the source of 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:53.240 his wealth, very very important. We don't have a real 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:58.800 understanding as to how Jeffrey Epstein made all of this money. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:03.639 And it's not to say that the federal government necessarily 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:09.320 has the answer to that question in these documents, but 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:15.040 it's one of the unanswered questions that has persisted for many, 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.760 many years. And in addition to that, we also don't 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:24.799 really know how the government conducted its investigation, how that 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:31.760 investigation unfolded by the FBI. We have some sense as 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:37.320 to how the sweetheart deal, very controversial plea deal that 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:41.520 he entered into with prosecutors in Florida in Florida came about, 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.680 but what led up to it, What was happening behind 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.400 the scenes, What did the FBI find, Who did they interview, 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:54.040 what sorts of documents did they collect bank records other 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:58.640 types of records That would shed even more light as 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.120 to how that sort of actored into the deal that 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.800 he signed that kind of spared him from federal charges. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.920 A few weeks ago, Preston Trump signed the Epstein Files 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.360 Transparency Act. This is a law that requires the Justice 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:14.000 supermit to release those investigative files. When we say the 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.640 Epstein files, what does that mean? It's a term we 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.240 kind of throw around, but what exactly is in that 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:20.640 corpus of documents? 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.640 What that is is the government's records, everything that they 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:30.960 amassed during the course of their investigation. And it's FBI records, 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.279 it's Justice Department records. It actually would arguably consist of 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:39.280 records from other agencies as well, Treasury Department, the Financial 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:44.240 Crimes Enforcement Network, Securities and Exchange Commission. So it was 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:49.040 unknown what these files actually contained, and I dug into that. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.839 I was really interested in learning what could these files 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:58.880 actually be. So I dug into a case that had 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.920 been under the radar for nearly nine years, and that's 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.440 a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit that was filed by 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.560 a reporter who worked for Radar Online Radars of publication 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.359 that by the way. Jeffrey Epstein was an investor in 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:19.120 way way back, and during the course of my reporting 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:24.320 and research into this case, I came across an index, 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:31.200 and basically that index described it is sort of broad 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:38.120 general descriptions what kinds of records that the FBI had 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.720 as it related to Jeffrey Epstein and the investigation that 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.279 took place between two thousand and five and two thousand 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.520 and eight and the reporter they got about a thousand 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.880 pages of these records, but the vast majority, more than 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:58.640 ten thousand pages had been withheld. So in this index 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:03.599 it actually showed that there were photographs, perhaps that's not 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:10.880 a surprise, communications with foreign governments, communications related to his 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:18.080 financial records, many interviews with witnesses or people that were 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:24.240 important to question during that investigation. Obviously you know, interviews 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:29.719 with victims. But it really showed that the investigation was 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.839 not just at least the way I read it, not 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.280 just completely centered in the US. There was also it 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.240 was a little bit global. The FBI was looking outside 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:44.200 of the US as well as they were probing Jeffrey Epstein. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:48.560 So that index really kind of laid bare what would 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.520 arguably be in the files. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.560 So you've reported Jason that this index alone is one 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.160 hundred and seventy pages, So that suggests that Justice Superman 0:06:58.240 --> 0:06:58.840 has a lot of. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:03.320 Documentsnumber of records that were withheld from the request in 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.680 that case. At the time, they pegged it at around 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.840 ten thousand pages. But that's just actually a sliver. That's 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.400 just a sliver of everything the Justice Department and FBI collected, 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:20.560 because we now know based on the fact that over 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:25.120 the summer the Justice Department and the FBI issued a 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.560 joint statement that said we are actually not going to 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:34.240 release anything. They disclosed that they actually amassed three hundred 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.120 gigabytes of data and records and all of that, but 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.960 they didn't describe really what those records were. So the 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:48.520 index is showing that there are many different categories of 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.200 records that the FBI has. 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.200 You mentioned what was happening over the course of the summer, 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.560 the Justice s Perman's reluctance unwillingness to release this information, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.040 and suffice to say, a lot has changed since then. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.520 I mentioned that law. There was all of this resistance 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.640 among Republicans to pass that law. In fact, it was 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.480 passed to assigned by the President pretty quickly thereafter. What 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.840 is the Justice Department supposed to release in the next 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:13.440 few days. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.320 By law, they are supposed to release within thirty days 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:24.520 everything everything, which is kind of unreal, right because we're 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:30.160 talking about three hundred gigabytes of data and they are 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.880 supposed to just turn that over to the househover Site 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:40.760 and Government Reform Committee, and they are permitted to withhold 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.160 temporarily some records if it relates to an ongoing investigation. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.880 They are permitted to withhold the names of some victims, 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.840 and if they redact anyone else's name, the committee needs 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.720 to know about it. So there has kind of been 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:02.280 a wait and see as to will they turn everything 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.720 over to the committee, because they really would be remarkable. 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.559 You're talking about it, you know, a transfer of a massive, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.360 massive trove of records. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.200 How much of that can we expect to be made public? 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.240 Since Trump took office, his administration has shown hesitation about 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.760 releasing everything. So what could the DOJ hold back and 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.520 could there be other ways to crack open the Epstein files. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:28.800 That's after the break. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.720 I'm speaking with Bloomberg investigative reporter Jason Leopold about what 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.040 we can expect from the Epstein files and how the 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:45.280 government has approached releasing them. I think what a lot 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.720 of people want to know, including a very vocal camp 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.440 of Trump supporters, is the full extent of Jeffrey Epstein's 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.680 activities and how a lot of prominent people fit into those. 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.960 And President Trump, of course, on the campaign trails, said 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.120 he would release these files to the Attorney General. Pimbondi 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.880 immediately released a trans of documents to a lot of 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.920 fanfare and then came under fire because a lot of 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.080 those documents were already out there in the public domain. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.760 After that, she basically ordered the FBI director ordered Cash 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:13.640 Pattel to bring the DOJ Moore documents. You have reported 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.200 on how the FBI handled those documents, handled that request. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:18.480 What did you learn? 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:24.000 I was very interested after the botched rollout of what 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.040 Pam Bondi called phase one of the release of the 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:31.040 Epstein files, after that happened, and the director of what's 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.440 given to Cash Pattel, is very interested in what was 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.760 going on behind the scenes because now at the time 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.960 this was, you know, around March, there are about one 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.600 thousand FBI agents and other FBI person at people, yeah, 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:48.520 who were tasked with reviewing the Epstein files redacting it 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.240 and making it available for you know, for public release. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.520 And I wanted to get an idea of what was 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.840 going on behind the scenes, so I filed a FOY request. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.520 We ultimately, we being Bloomberg and and myself ultimately sued 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.120 the FBI to obtain those records. And a couple of 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.480 weeks ago got the first batch of records and it 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.239 was about sixty pages of emails. But what was fascinating 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.200 about these emails It kind of put you behind the 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:21.280 scenes at the FBI to see how they were working 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:26.640 really really quickly to review and redact the record. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.079 So redact is very important. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.199 They actually called it Special Reaction Project, but at the 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.800 same time they called it Epstein Transparency Project. That was 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.000 a little weird seeing that Epstein Transparency Project and. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.400 Special Reaction Project. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.880 I think one of the key takeaways from those records 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.160 is that it showed that Dan Bongino, the deputy director, 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.640 he was in the loop as discussions were taking place 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:56.240 over reactions cash Ptel was seeking updates. There were actually 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:00.960 nine hundred and thirty four agents and other personnel who 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:06.160 worked on it, and that the FBI ultimately paid for 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.319 six days of work a million dollars in overtime to 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:16.800 agents and others who clocked in, you know, extra hours 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.000 working on the Epstein files. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.480 What could you tell us that you gleaned from those 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.920 documents about what was at the center of those deliberations, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.800 how they were deciding what to redact. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.280 You know, I wish I could tell you that that's 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.480 what the document showed, but the FBI withheld that information. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.600 I was able to just see is that they. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:43.439 Had PowerPoint trainings on what to redact, how to process 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.120 and redact, and what should be redacted. That there was 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:51.199 also you know, a paper that was presented to the 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.400 Justice Department on the final overview of the Epstein files, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.640 but again they withheld that. But it allows us to 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.240 chip away a bit at kind of finding out what 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:07.120 was happening behind the scenes and how this this process worked. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.120 And what we can tell is that it really was 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:13.640 isolated to maybe just two and a half months. They 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.920 were working so much during that two and a half 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.679 month timeframe to get this ready, and ultimately what happened 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.040 is nothing was released. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.120 You've been doing this for a long time, so you 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:28.080 know the kind of grounds for redaction. Generally speaking, here, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.280 I imagine there's the potential for maybe an inclination to 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.640 redact something because of the potential political embarrassment, any sense 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.719 of the greed, which that's weighing on the agents who 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.440 are going through all of us. If that's part of 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.160 the mandate that they've gotten here to keep an eye 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.200 out for who might be surfaced in these documents. 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:51.480 They're not supposed to not supposed to redact anything because 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:57.360 it would cause embarrassment or embarrass any one particular person 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:03.920 or many individuals. They are supposed to apply reactions in 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.960 kind of accordance with the FOYA, the nine exemptions under FOYA. 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.880 Now this is they're not releasing records as a result 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.160 of a Foyer request, but that's the guidelines that they're using. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:21.320 So that means that they are withholding information for personal privacy, 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:26.600 could be national security, could be an ongoing investigation, could 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:30.440 be you know, attorney client privilege, and that's what they're 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:36.240 supposed to do. I learned during the course of my 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.120 reporting that you know, Trump's name appears in these records 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:44.120 and that his name was redacted. There's no evidence that 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.520 there was any wrongdoing by Trump for appearing in the records. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.080 The argument was they were redacting it for privacy reasons 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.200 because at the time Trump was a private city s 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.120 he wasn't the president of the United States. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.440 So there is suffice to say a lot of anti disipation. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:02.760 You know, what's the Justice Department going to release by 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.040 this deadline of on or around December nineteenth, if my 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.720 math is right, for the thirty day period after this 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.280 legislation was signed into law. If the Justice Department decides 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.600 to hold back some or all of these documents, have 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.920 we in effect hit a wall? What recourse do people 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:21.280 have if the release in mid December isn't as comprehensive 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.000 as lawmakers and others are expecting. It's a really good question. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.040 And you know, I want to bring us back to that. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:31.480 Radar lawsuit right that lawsuit is still active, that is 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.560 still winding its way through the courts. In fact, that 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.720 attorney has appealed the decision by the judge that that 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.360 found in favor of the Justice Department that they would 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:46.280 withhold the vast majority of the records due to ongoing 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.320 you know, investigations, and so there's a hearing coming up 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.200 in the Second Circuit here in New York in January. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.680 I truly do believe that the best chance the public 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:05.880 has at actually seeing those records, is through this Freedom 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.800 of Information Act lawsuit or through a Freedom of Information 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:10.560 Act request. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.560 I want to get your sense of this moment and 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.360 all that we're learning in this moment. So we've been 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.120 talking about these government documents, the work of the House 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.040 Committee on Oversight. It's been releasing emails and photos and 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.760 banking details. Over the course of this year. You've filled 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.400 in a lot of details about Epstein. The've emerged in 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.400 his personal emails. You know, as we're speaking, news is 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.960 breaking that a judge in Florida is going to allow 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.920 the release of grand jury documents from case in Florida. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.960 Talk a bit about sort of the way this dam 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.960 that has been in place for many years is starting 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.920 to break down, that that information is starting to come 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.680 out in a way that it hasn't in years past. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:49.080 The fact that we are starting to see a break 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.880 in the dam is due to that kind of pressure 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:58.640 that has been placed upon those who hold the keys 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:04.240 to the safe where these documents and other types of 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:10.240 records are being held, and demands by certainly by victims, victims, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:16.479 attorneys and lawmakers who are also realizing how did this happen? 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.480 You know whether it's the controversial Plea agreement or how 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:25.760 was Epstein able to fund sex trafficking operations. So lots 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.760 of questions that have been asked the role of financial institutions, 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:34.639 what the role is they played in facilitating all of that. So, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.360 all of these questions, as well as the promises that 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:46.280 have been made to release the files, has really changed 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.600 the moment that you know we're in now because it 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:55.280 changed the story from Jeffrey Epstein being convicted of a 0:17:55.320 --> 0:18:01.480 sex crime in Florida, being arrested for X trafficking, you know, 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:07.040 dying in his jail cell, to a big political story. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.480 My last question has to do with this expected release 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.520 when we talk about three or gigabytes to the late person, 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:12.960 what is that? 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:13.520 Oh? 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.600 Man, I don't heart defiled them it. I mean, it's 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.359 just voluminous. It will keep us busy for a really, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.080 really long time if. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.960 We do get a release of that size. Where do you, 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.879 Jason Leopold, go first? What are the biggest questions that 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.000 you have and where are you most hopeful that you're 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.520 going to find yeah, new information. 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:36.119 I'll also speak from my team as well, the you know, 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.639 the areas that we're most interested in our money. We 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.800 want to continue following the money. As I mentioned, one 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:47.119 of the big stories from the series that we've reported 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:52.120 has to do with a previously unknown money laundering investigation 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:57.880 that took place alongside the sex crimes investigation in two 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:02.800 thousand and seven. In two thousand and we were able 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.879 to reveal a lot of details around that investigation, but 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:12.200 we really didn't get a good reason as to what ultimately. 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.359 Happened as to why it was shut down. 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.760 You know, was it simply a result of you know, 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:20.480 Epstein accepting the plea deal and pleading guilty and stakehourt 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:21.960 or was there something else? 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.240 Jason, Thank you very much. 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