1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose sitting in for John Colbelt. 5 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 3: Tough mourning in Minneapolis, but really tough morning in America. 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Two children are dead, an eight year old child and 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: a ten year old child. 8 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 3: They were at mass, first mass of the year for 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: a Catholic school in Minneapolis. Shooter is dead, apparently a 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: self inflicted gunshot wound, and a whole lot of questions. 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: ABC News Alex Stone, Alex, When people like you and 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: I spend as many hours a week in a newsroom, 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: we hear some rough stories, but few are as rough 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: as this one. 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then whenever it involves children, Lou, terrible morning 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. And here's what we know. I was around 17 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: eight thirty this morning. Calls began coming into nine one. 18 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: One active shooter at Annunciation Catholic School and police are 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: saying the shooter now officially IDD a few moments ago 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: as Robin Westman, wearing all black with a rifle, shotgun 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: pistol from the outside of the church, shot children who 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: were sitting in the pews and very deliberately shot those 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: children that I want to play for you. Clarissa Garcia. 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: She was in the church and telling us. 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: And I heard something like really loud, like I thought 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 4: it was fireworks in the church, and and and then 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 4: then I saw the shooting. And then and I was like, 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I'm so scared. And so a teacher 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: lead me downstairs. She liked to like preschool classroom, and 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: so I went there, and me and my friend Cecy 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: were just praying, praying, and and then and and then 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 4: we went we went outside. We were just like waiting 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: there and then and then and then we went to 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: somebody's house to be safe. 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: There's a little a lot of details coming in right now. 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: A moment ago in that identification, the FBI Director Cash 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: Beutel saying that the shooter was born as Robert Westman 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: but identified as Robin Westman. We know there was a 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: name change in twenty twenty as the applicant to identifies 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: as a female and wanted that name change. But Minneapolis 41 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: Mayor Jacob Frye also saying. 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 5: This children are dead. They are families that have a 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: deceased child. You cannot put into wards the gravity, the 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: tragedy or the absolute pain. 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Of this situation, so just to run through it, police 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: say the shooter intentionally shot the children in those pews. 47 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: They were at a service marking the first week back 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: at school, and they had gone in there, and the 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: police chief saying this. 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 6: Was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children. 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: The shooter apparently barricaded the doors on that side of 52 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: the building so nobody could escape. There was plywood across them, 53 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: and the shooter, as they're beginning to try to learn more, 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: had apparently posted some things online today, and the chief 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: adding the shooter. 56 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 6: On one side of the church building and on that 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 6: side at least two doors. It appears there had been 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 6: like a two by four place, so not all of 59 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 6: the doors around the building, but on the side where 60 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 6: the shooter did fire. 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: And the number of injured has now gone up to nineteen. 62 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: In addition to the eight year old and the ten 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: year old who were killed, the nineteen others fifteen of 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: those children were injured, some critically. Right now, the shooter 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: then shooting herself. The adults who were shot were in 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: their eighties who were in and who were taking part 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: in those services. But with the social media, we know 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: that the shooter posted these videos early today shows the 69 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: shooter flipping through pages of notes, of drawings of weapons, 70 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: showing the inside of the church. There was a drawing 71 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: of the church itself. So this is being investigated now 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: as a hate crime against the Catholic Church. But a 73 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: moment ago, I want to play one more for you, 74 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: a moment ago, the principal of the school saying. 75 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 7: Any of ours, students and families and staff watching right now, 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 7: I love you. You're so brave, and I'm so sorry this 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 7: happened to us today. Within seconds of this situation beginning, 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 7: our teachers were heroes, children were duck down. Adults are 79 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 7: protecting children, older children are protecting younger children. 80 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: And flags are at half staff now at the White House, 81 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: President ordering them lowered nationwide this afternoon. And at this 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: point there are some who are critically injured, but at 83 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: a lot of different hospitals in the Minneapolis area. 84 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: So the police chief, Brian O'Hara said that the shooter 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: was found with a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. 86 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: And in the video that we're seeing now that we 87 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: are we believe is related to or is attached to 88 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: the shooter. There are many many magazines, a lot of ammunition. 89 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: I mean any we. 90 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: Heard that all the weapons were legally purchased, but there 91 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: are volumes of magazines and ammunition which costs money. Any 92 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: do we have any notion or idea where how he 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: was able to or she was able to obtain all 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: this stuff? 95 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: Where was she working? 96 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't seem police are that far along yet 97 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: to know where the money was coming from, which is 98 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: a question on many of these that we ask of 99 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: where the money has come from that they haven't put 100 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: that together yet. Is it this is all happening in 101 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: just the last couple of hours. But yeah, three different 102 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: weapons that were legally purchased. We know there was what 103 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: looks like a smoke grenade as well, according to police, 104 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: And there were some indicators early on of maybe explosive devices, 105 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: but the chief saying that they have not identified any 106 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: actual explosives that were found in the car or around 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 1: the school. We do know there appears in the shooters 108 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: on a book or on a laptop that sources are 109 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: telling us a sticker that shows a German band that 110 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: is popular with Columbine sympathizers and the Columbine Killers. That 111 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: is not all that uncommon in mass killers to be 112 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: fans of that German band as well, So they're just 113 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: right now trying to understand all this. But where the 114 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: money came from for the weapons, we don't know. 115 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 2: That's going to be an interesting question. 116 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: That's top on my list really is the acquisition of 117 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: the firearms. All right, last question, So we're told that 118 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: the shooter was found that in the back of the church, 119 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: which means that at some point the shooter entered the church. 120 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: Where any shots fired from within the church. 121 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: According to police, they don't think the shooter ever actually 122 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: went into the church, but went around the outside of 123 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: the church, firing into it through the windows, and very 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: specifically firing at the children who were inside in those 125 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: pews and killing the eight year old and the ten 126 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: year old sitting in the pews, and then shooting the 127 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: others and attempting to kill the others. But at least 128 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: the current description from the chief is that the shooter 129 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: made the way around the church firing into these different 130 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: weapons or into the different windows, and children have described 131 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: the stained glass windows just busting open and shots coming 132 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: through them, so that there was no gunfire, it seems 133 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: the inside police got there pretty quickly. There were a 134 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: number of adults who were heroes in this of getting 135 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: the children to safety, and that may have all helped, 136 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: but this was mainly from the outside. 137 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: ABC News. Alex Stone, thank you so much. Appreciate your 138 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: reporting on this. We'll keep an eye on any updates 139 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: when we come back. We have a testimony I it 140 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: is testimony from people in the pews or hiding under 141 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: the pews of this church. Absolutely unbelievable. Louke Penrose and 142 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: for John COBLT on the John Cobalt Show on k 143 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: I AM six forty. 144 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Coblt on demand from KFI AM 145 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 8: six forty. 146 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: Louke Penrose in for John COBLT on the John coblt 147 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: Show this week to children dead in Minneapolis this morning. 148 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: The numbers now twenty injured total. Fifteen of the twenty 149 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: our children in critical condition, including a six year old. 150 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: Six year old child hit with a rifle. That's that's 151 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: rough boatholes. They said dozens of shots fired somewhere between 152 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: fifty and one hundred, but dozens of casings. The shooter 153 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: had a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol and fired 154 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: all three. So all right, let's start breaking this down 155 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: into all the pieces that is going to be discussed 156 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: and argued over the next couple of hours. Let's dispense 157 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 3: with the whole gun thing. Clearly, this has nothing to 158 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: do with guns. 159 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: There are no. 160 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: Gun laws that we could enact that would have prevented this. 161 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with the amount of weapons 162 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: that are on the streets. I heard the mayor of 163 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: Minneapolis say that there are more guns than people in 164 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: the United States. 165 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't know what any of that means. 166 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: This guy had a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol, 167 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: all lawfully perched. So what are you gonna do outlaw rifles, shotguns, 168 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: and pistols. So talking about the weapon is and has 169 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: always been a waste of time. 170 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: What else do we know? Uh? 171 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: Well we and you heard me ask Alex Stone. We 172 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 3: know that he had a lot of ammunition. We know 173 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: he had a lot of magazines. When I say where 174 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: do you see these videos? You'll see them eventually if 175 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: you've not seen them already, They're all over social media. 176 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: It was originally on his YouTube channel and then he 177 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: scrubbed it immediately. I don't understand why that is necessary 178 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: for the FBI, but it was too late. People already 179 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: screenshot and capture the video, and it's everywhere except his 180 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 3: YouTube page. And I'm talking like four or five, six 181 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: seven magazines and lots of weapons, and they're all over 182 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: his bed, and he's going through with his cell phone 183 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: and showing everybody all the bullets he has. And this 184 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 3: costs money. Somebody has to know that he has all 185 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: this stuff. Somebody has to be aware that he's purchased 186 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: all this stuff. And from the looks of the video, 187 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: he does not seem stable enough. 188 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: To hold a job. 189 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: And if he is able to hold a job, that 190 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: job does not pay enough for him to assemble all 191 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: of this hardware firepower and also put a roof over 192 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: his head and also pay for a car and car 193 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 3: insurance and feed himself three times a day. So he's 194 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: living somewhere on someone else's dime who is earning a living, 195 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 3: and that person could not possibly not know that all 196 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: this firepower was in their house. So Minnesota court records 197 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 3: confirmed that Robin Westman, his mother formerly no Robert Westman 198 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: is is the individual. Robert Westman formally changed his name 199 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: to Robin Westman in a Minnesota court. It was petitioned 200 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, so he would have been seventeen a 201 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: minor at the time, and the legal name change was 202 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: granted in twenty twenty, and he was a miner at 203 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: the time and his mother signed off on it, so 204 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: his mother knew that he wanted to be identified as 205 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: a female. According to the court documents, the minor child 206 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: identifies as a female and wants her name change to 207 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: reflect that. 208 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: The application for name change of. 209 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: A minor was filed by the mother in court in 210 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: nineteen and granted in twenty twenty. So the mother and 211 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: the mother, apparently, according to the New York Post, worked 212 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: at some point at the school, the Catholic school. We 213 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: don't know if he attended the school. We don't know 214 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 3: how familiar he was with the school. He was familiar 215 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: enough with Catholic Mass in a Catholic school to know 216 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: that the children all sit together. 217 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 2: So this was Wednesday. 218 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: School started on Monday, and Wednesday is the first day 219 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: of school Mass for the week. And I know this 220 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: because do you know what I did this morning? I 221 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: dropped off my children at school and they were in 222 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: their mass uniforms because Wednesday is the first Mass day 223 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: of the year. 224 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: So I came home and heard the story on KFI. 225 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: It was surreal because I'm so familiar with the process 226 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 3: school starts. Mass Day is a mid day, a midweek 227 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: event in our parish. 228 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: It's on Wednesday, and apparently saying goes for this school 229 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. 230 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: And the way this works is the children go check 231 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: into the classroom and then they go over to if 232 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: there is a church on campus or a church adjacent 233 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: to the campus, which is the case here in Minneapolis. 234 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: And then they all go in. 235 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes parents attend, Sometimes parents can't because they're going to work. 236 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes grandparents can, which is why there were some elderly 237 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: folks injured at a you know, elementary school Catholic Mass. 238 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: But the way this works is the children file into 239 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: the pews and they sit with their classes. So all 240 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: the kindergarteners sit together with the teacher, then all the 241 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: first graders, then all the second graders, and it goes 242 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: by class. And the shooter knew that because the stained 243 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 3: glass window that he aimed for was on the side 244 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: of the church where the children were, so he knew 245 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: enough about the way the process of the first Mass works. 246 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: And this goes on for every Mass. But this was 247 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: the very first mass. So every child had on a 248 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: brand new mass uniform, right, and some of the second 249 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: and third graders they have on the new uniform because 250 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: there's a different uniform for kindergarteners than there are as 251 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: they get into third grade and fourth grade. All the 252 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: kids were ready to go first Mass of the year, and. 253 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: This is how it sounded for them. 254 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 9: The shots fired and then he kind of like got 255 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 9: under the pews. He kind of a shot through the 256 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 9: the stained glass windows, I think, and it was really scary. 257 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable, Like when I'm waiting for mass to get going, 258 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: and this was the way it was even when I 259 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: was a kid. 260 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: That's what you would do. 261 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: You would just kind of marvel out the stained glass 262 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: window because it's just so amazing looking. And they're amazing 263 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: looking in every church which I've ever been, And I 264 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: can't imagine a kindergartener just sitting. 265 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: There, you know, five. 266 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: Six years old, looking at the stained glass beauty, only 267 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: to have bullets ripped through them at you. They asked 268 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: one kid, hey, didn't you practice school shooting drills at school? 269 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: They asked an eight year old, why didn't you invoke 270 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: the school the shooting drill that they've been teaching you. 271 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 9: You've only practiced it in the main school, so we 272 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 9: really didn't know what to do. We just got into 273 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 9: the pews and he shot through the stained glass. Womdows. 274 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they never practiced the shooting drill inside the church. 275 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 276 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: This is unbelievable. Look, this be lies any attempt. I 277 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: know that everyone's trying to find a motive. They're going 278 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: to sort through this guy's manifesto. The reality is there 279 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: is no fixing crazy. This is crazy, absolute crazy. And 280 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: how aware the Saye were about the crazy. 281 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: Around them is really the question. 282 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: The mother, wherever he was living, the people around him, 283 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: if he was working, his coworkers, why aren't these people saying, hey, 284 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: this guy's crazy and he has guns. That is the 285 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: only way to prevent these things from happening. We'll talk 286 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: about it more when we get back. Lou Penrose. If 287 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: John Coblt on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on 288 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. 289 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 290 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 8: six forty. 291 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: Loup Penrose, if John Coblt on The John coblt Show 292 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: talking about this horrible shooting in Minneapolis this morning. Two 293 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: children dead and now fifteen children in critical condition. Won 294 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: as young as six years old. What we know about 295 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: the shooter, While know he was in his twenties. We 296 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: know he showed up wearing black clothing and cargo pants. 297 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: He was armed with a rifle, shotgun, pistol fired. All 298 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: three fired through the stained glass window on purpose, toward 299 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: the children where he knew the children would be in 300 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: the pews for the first mass of the complic school 301 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: year for this school. And we do know that his 302 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: mother signed off on a court petition to legally change 303 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: his name from Robert to Robin because according to the documents, 304 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: it states that the minor child identifies as female and 305 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: wants her name to reflect the identification. 306 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know where that is in the whole 307 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: trans discussion. Somebody that is that it if you identify as. 308 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 3: A female and you're a man, that makes you trans 309 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: or does that just mean you want a name change. 310 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 311 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: I don't want to get too caught up in the 312 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: trans thing. Yet this person was insane, There's no question 313 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 3: about it. 314 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 2: Like there are people. 315 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: If a grown ass man wants to be called Robin, 316 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: instead of Robert and walk around and address and grow 317 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: their hair out and put on lipstick and shop at Alta. 318 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: That's their business. 319 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: I don't care what grown people do as long as 320 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: they're safe. Now you can say, hello, there's something wrong 321 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: with anybody that is a man wants to walk around 322 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: and address and shop at Alta and put on lipstick. 323 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. These are grown people and they 324 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: can do whatever they want. 325 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: There are also insane people that are confused about everything, 326 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: who's talking to them, what they're here on earth to do, 327 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: whether they are a boy or a girl, and I 328 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: think this individual falls into that category. So I'm far 329 00:18:54,119 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: more concerned about the mental derangement and the violence and 330 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: the access to weapons, and the fact that people like 331 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: this always have some kind of an enabler, always have 332 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: some kind of an accomplice they are acting alone. 333 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: I noticed he has no criminal history. 334 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: Well back when he was seventeen, he probably couldn't purchase 335 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: a whole lot of firepower or hide it as well. 336 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, but between the ages of between twenty 337 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: and twenty twenty, in twenty twenty and twenty five, he 338 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: armed himself because he was always unstable, right he was 339 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: unstable from twenty nineteen when he filed the petition. So 340 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: something's wrong, and there was time to catch wrong, and 341 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: there was time to catch dangerous. The time to do 342 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: that is when they are a minor. So that's what 343 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: I want to know, Like, that's the first question. First off, 344 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: I want a toxicology report. What kind of drugs did 345 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: the doctors put him on to make him feel more 346 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: comfortable being a woman, And did that have some kind 347 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: of psychological effect on his brain and exacerbate what was 348 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: already crazy? 349 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: That's number one. Number two, who gave him the money? 350 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: And how come nobody new to stop using the left language. 351 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: The shooter was a he. 352 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: The shooter was a he, and somehow it's a factor 353 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 3: that he identified as a she. I will say this 354 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: with respect to the entire trans question. This has kind 355 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: of been bothering me all day. There is an apprehension 356 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: in the news business, and I've been watching this on television, 357 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 3: there's an apprehension to bring up the fact that the 358 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 3: shooter at seventeen petitioned to have his name changed from 359 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: Robert to Robin, specifically because the shooter a child identified 360 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: as a female and wants the name chains to reflect 361 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: the identification. 362 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: That was known. 363 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: I don't know ten o'clock this morning, even in the 364 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: nine o'clock hour California time. I mean, that was confirmed, 365 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 3: those court records were already out on social media, and 366 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: everybody on TV, everybody in the news business, they wouldn't 367 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: bring that part up. 368 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: The shooter. The shooter was found dead at the back 369 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: of the church. 370 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 3: The shooter had you know, was wearing black and was 371 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: wearing cargo pants. The shooter used the rifle of the 372 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: pistol and the shotgun the shooter. And I'm like, come on, 373 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: if it doesn't matter and it's all just fine, if 374 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: people are just identifying as female and that's not at 375 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 3: all newsworthy. 376 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: Then why not just say it? It certainly is interesting. 377 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: Why the apprehension, Why do we tiptoe in the news 378 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: business around the fact that this person and was certainly abnormal? 379 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: Right? 380 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 3: I mean that is what the literal definition of abnormal is. 381 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: Normal people are born a man and stay a man. 382 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: Normal people are born a woman and stay a woman. 383 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: It is outside of normal. That's why it's rare. Like 384 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: you know, it's not the majority of people that transition. 385 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: It's not the majority of people who wish to be 386 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: identified as the opposite sex. So it is by literal 387 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: definition abnormal. Now again, I've grown people like you could 388 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: be in that category and be perfectly fine with your 389 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: life and lead a productive life and uh, you know, 390 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: have a ball. But it certainly is a factor because 391 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: there are many people who still wonder if there isn't 392 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: something a little bit because there is. There is such 393 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: a thing as gender dysmorphic disorder, right, There are disorders 394 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: as well as people who just freely choose to. 395 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: Live their life as another gender. So the fact that that. 396 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: Part of the whole story was hidden for as long 397 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 3: as the news could hide it, I don't know, speaks 398 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: to a real immaturity to me about the news business, 399 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: Like why why why can't you say it? If it's 400 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: absolutely fine and should have nothing to do with the 401 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: fact that this person was mentally ill and a monster 402 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: and targeting children, then why not pointed out? 403 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: Well, no, Lou, that's everybody's gonna jump on. 404 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: It's gonna it's gonna cause an unfair targeting of the 405 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: trans community who buy and larger peaceful people, Well, that's 406 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: up to the trans community. Well, they're the ones that 407 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: have the issue a statement saying, hey, this monster does 408 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: represent us. 409 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: Like they're growing up sticking five bad. I just wanted 410 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: to mention that your your commentary. 411 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: He's insightful, it's educational, it's just really well done. 412 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: So I appreciate the call. 413 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 10: We need a background check that includes social media and 414 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 10: a mental evaluation, and until that happens, this is going 415 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 10: to continue to happen. You can't just get a gun 416 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 10: without having your mental capacity screened and your social media 417 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 10: screen You know what. 418 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: We could do right before the background check. 419 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: Everybody around this person could check, right before the gun 420 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: store owner has to go through the work of doing 421 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: the background check and scrubbing the social media pages. 422 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: What about the mother? 423 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 3: Is there only a mother? Is there a father? Are 424 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: their siblings? How about an aunt and an uncle? What 425 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: about the next door neighbor. What about the girlfriend or 426 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: the boyfriend or whatever friend? What about the boss, coworkers? 427 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: You know, the. 428 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: Community around this individual. And if he's a loaner, what 429 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 3: about all his classmates. Hey, and that guy's a weirdo 430 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 3: and a loaner, and now I saw him buying a gun. 431 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 3: Like the foreground check also is a thing. Lou Penrose 432 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: infa John Cobelt on The John Cobolt Show on KFI 433 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 434 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty. 435 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose Info. John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show. 436 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: This week coming up, following the news of two, California 437 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: State assembly Member Karl Demiel will join us an update 438 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 3: on Prop fifty. 439 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: We now may have. 440 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: Some of the language in the title, so we'll know 441 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: how they're going to try to mislead the voter and 442 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: frankly lie to the voter. Update now on this shooting 443 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: in Minneapolis, two children killed. The FBI is now calling 444 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: this a hate crime against Catholics. All right, I mean whatever, 445 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: This is why I hate the whole hate crime thing. 446 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a Catholic. 447 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: I dropped my kids off at Catholic school this morning, 448 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 3: where they too had the first Wednesday Mass of the 449 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: school year. So that doesn't make me feel any better 450 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 3: that they're treating it as a hate crime. Look, we're Catholic. 451 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: Saint Peter was crucified upside down, so I'm you know, 452 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 3: we're not really worried about this. Freak from Minneapolis. 453 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 10: Thank you so much for addressing that psychopath as a man. 454 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 6: That's bullish that some news stations are addressing the idiot 455 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 6: as a female. 456 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been an interesting component. 457 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: To all this, the apprehension. 458 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: To announce what was already out on social media for hours. 459 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: And I don't know if there's a political correctness that's 460 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 3: going on. I don't know if the news industry, and 461 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: this isn't just any one network, they all did it, 462 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: like nobody wanted to admit what we many of us 463 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: knew if we were on social media this morning between 464 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: nine in the morning until around twelve thirty one ish 465 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: West Coast time, that this person was or was a 466 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: man identifying as a woman, had changed his name and 467 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 3: like that bothers. A lot of people, including me, like it. Really, 468 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 3: if you're dried around, don't have access to all the 469 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: news information that you have, if you're not like people 470 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: like me that are sitting around a newsroom gathering information, 471 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: and you hear about this horrible tragedy. Two children are dead, 472 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, in church bullets going through the stained 473 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: glass window. I can't think of anything more horrible, right, 474 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: and you're listening you want to know what happened, what happened, 475 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: what happened? 476 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: Who would shoot at children? Was it a terrorist? Was 477 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: it Osama bin Laden? And then only hours later do 478 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: you find out on your own, no help from the news, 479 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: that it. 480 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: Was some some some some freak that uh, you know, 481 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: for identifies a guy that identifies as a woman, and 482 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: you think, oh, well that makes sense. 483 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 10: Blue. 484 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: I want to thank you. 485 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 10: I really do you actually call him the shooter a 486 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 10: man and you're saying what he's saying, he so you 487 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 10: would he is correct, And I thank you for that. 488 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing about the shooter that is a man. 489 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: This shooter is an animal, an absolute monster. And I 490 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: go back to what I started with, and that is 491 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: somebody helped him get these weapons. Somebody knew that he 492 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: was gathering ammunition. Somebody knew that he had lots of magazines. 493 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 3: He had a car, so somebody somebody gave him a car, 494 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: gifted him a car, or helped him buy a car. 495 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: Somebody was putting gas in that car, Somebody was paying 496 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: for car insurance. 497 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: I mean, unless he went to a different. 498 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: Gun shop for every single purchase, somebody had to know 499 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: that he was purchased seeing lots of magazines and like 500 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: that's a thing. 501 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: When you would I'm all for. 502 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: You know, whatever background check you want to come up 503 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: with that would have prevented this. I don't know what 504 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: it would be. I don't know what gun control legislation 505 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: they're talking about passing up there in Minneapolis. I heard 506 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: the mayor of Minneapolis talk about guns. I don't know 507 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: why even brings it up. This guy had tons of firepower. 508 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: He had all the categories. He had a shotgun, which 509 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: no one ever talks about limiting the purchase of a 510 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: shotgun because people hunt with. 511 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: Shotguns in Minnesota. 512 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: He had a rifle, and he had a pistol, so 513 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: he had a handgun. 514 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: So he had all of them. So I don't know 515 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: what kind of gun control you want to limit. 516 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 3: And he had all kinds of ammunition, and he had 517 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: multiple magazines, and he was a nut. 518 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: Here's more of one of the uh. One of the 519 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: kids in that church this morning. 520 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 9: My friend got hit in the map to the hospital. 521 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 9: He went to the hospital. 522 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: What went through your mind when you saw that? 523 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 9: I was super scared. 524 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: For and feel bad for that kid. I feel bad 525 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: for all these children. 526 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: I don't I don't know enough about child psychology or 527 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: counseling or trauma treatment or any of those things. Uh. 528 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: I do know that I got an email from my 529 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: kid's school earlier today talking about security for copycat crimes. 530 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: It never even occurred to me. 531 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 3: My first thought was, Well, the kids are going to 532 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: hear about it when they get home, and are they 533 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: going to be scared? And is it going to have 534 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: an impact on their desire to attend mass? And I thought, 535 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: that's going to be a conversation. Now I'll have to 536 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: go home tonight with my and my wife and I 537 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: will have to figure out how to. 538 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: Explain this to them. Because my see. 539 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: My niece who also attends the same school. She's the 540 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: same age as the oldest child that was shot. So 541 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: it was an eight year old and a ten year 542 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: old that was shot and killed. They were fifteen totally shot. 543 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: The youngest shot, who was in critical condition, is six 544 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: years old. So I will agree with the Mayor of 545 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: Minneapolis on one point. It is kind and it is 546 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: courteous to talk about thoughts and prayers like that's a 547 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: phrase that is just used out of just an absolute 548 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: lack of any ability to offer anything. 549 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: Right, Your heart is broken. My heart is broken. This 550 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: is terrible. 551 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 3: I can't imagine, can't imagine what it would be like 552 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 3: to be the parent of an eight year old that 553 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: is now gone after being dropped off at a Catholic 554 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: school and left the school, went adjacent to the church 555 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: to attend mass. I can't even begin. I can't my 556 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: brain can't go there because I wouldn't be able to function, 557 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: So I can't even imagine. And that's an eight year 558 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: old and a ten year old, so two families just shattered. 559 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 3: Then of course you have the families of the fifteen 560 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: children and the parents of the six year old who's 561 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: in critical condition, six years old shot with a rifle. 562 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: So it's beyond our ability to do anything but say wow, 563 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: our heartbreaks, and we offer our thoughts and prayers. But 564 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: the mayor is correct and thoughts and prayers is not enough, 565 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: like something has to be done. We have to drill 566 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: down on the mental illness in our society. This is, 567 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: in fact, a uniquely American problem. This does not happen, 568 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: not to this degree in other countries. And we know 569 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: it's not the weapons, So we need to figure it 570 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: out or it's gonna happen again. Louke Penrose, if of 571 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on 572 00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. 573 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 574 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 575 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 576 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.