Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, July seventeenth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're letting Laquon
Speaker 2: Hacket to the introscript and the rams for the best
Speaker 2: in the what. Okay, it's me your Maniam G. Marcus
Speaker 2: Grand joined by Michael F. Florio and LaQuan Jones. That's
Speaker 2: the last time I leave the Google doc on lock.
Speaker 2: We're all in studio today.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's good man, we're all together in one place.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's been multiple months since this has happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really has got the band back together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all back together for various reasons. Floria and
Speaker 2: I were doing some VOD stuff a little bit later.
Speaker 1: NFL Plus if you want to watch.
Speaker 2: It, Yes, it'll be out there at some point, hopefully
Speaker 2: very soon. And uh, LaQuan, you're just here.
Speaker 3: Because you're researching and doing research.
Speaker 2: You are, Uh, you are tap. You're gonna be on
Speaker 2: the reboot or the relaunching. I don't know what we're
Speaker 2: calling this of Good Morning Football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really excited for that opportunity. Man, But you know,
Speaker 4: be a night owl.
Speaker 2: Now you are you are, We'll be able.
Speaker 1: To like I'll be playing NCAA, You'll you'll be waking up,
Speaker 1: We'll be able to text.
Speaker 2: We will cross paths like Flora and I'll be showing
Speaker 2: up to work. You'll be heading to bed. You know
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But no, it should be fun.
Speaker 2: I know it restarts on July twenty ninth. A new
Speaker 2: old face, old new face is gonna be the ak
Speaker 2: Bar Bajaul be Amila who. If you have been following
Speaker 2: us and been watching Fantasy Live long enough, you remember
Speaker 2: Achbar is being a part of NFL Fantasy Live. Then
Speaker 2: he went on to superstardom as one of the co
Speaker 2: hosts of American Ninja Warrior, and now he's back on
Speaker 2: NFL network.
Speaker 1: First person ever bring me out on Fantasy Live, because
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember I was Akbar stat guy.
Speaker 1: I would just run out and hand him like no,
Speaker 1: that's right exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Akbar is great. It's good. It's good to
Speaker 2: have him back. I'm sure he will tell you about
Speaker 2: the time in college that he sacked Tony Romo. I
Speaker 2: think he still has the screenshot on his phone potentially,
Speaker 2: but should be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: So July twenty ninth, I cannot wait to meet him.
Speaker 2: Good, seriously, really honestly, legitimately one of the nicest people
Speaker 2: you are going to meet. Black Bars a great dude,
Speaker 2: a whole lot of fun and it should be a
Speaker 2: really good addition with Jamie Rdahl and Peter Schrager and
Speaker 2: Kyle Brandt and shree Burst who's also got to be
Speaker 2: joining the show as well, so be sure to check
Speaker 2: that out. So ta us. Since we're talking to the
Speaker 2: programming schedule, that's not how I meant to start the show,
Speaker 2: but it's sort of happened. I do know. The rumors
Speaker 2: are NFL Fantasy Live will be back for some preseason
Speaker 2: shows beginning August twelfth, so we're little less than a
Speaker 2: month from that, so you can see me and Florio
Speaker 2: and Adam Rank and Patrick Claybond and presumably Cynthia Friedland
Speaker 2: on your television coming up really really soon, so market calendar.
Speaker 2: August twelfth will start our preseason shows. We are still
Speaker 2: doing our division previews. On Monday, we did the AFC West,
Speaker 2: so here on Wednesday we will do the NFC West,
Speaker 2: so we'll go through the four teams in the division there,
Speaker 2: but we'll also have starting off with some news and
Speaker 2: rumors since we were talking the NFC West, the big
Speaker 2: news coming out of the division, mostly out of San Francisco,
Speaker 2: Santa Clara, whatever you want to say. Brandon Ayuk has
Speaker 2: requested a trade. Dun, dun. Yes, So obviously you see
Speaker 2: how the quan feels about it. As the resident Rams
Speaker 2: fans slash forty nine or hater, he is hoping, he
Speaker 2: is praying on the forty nine ers downfall for sure.
Speaker 2: My first comment on this because obviously I have a
Speaker 2: text chain with friends who are forty nine fans, and
Speaker 2: we were texting about it, and I was actually driving
Speaker 2: when the news first broke and I get a text
Speaker 2: message and when I stop, I look at it. And
Speaker 2: my response was, and I will say it here. My
Speaker 2: child often requests cupcakes. That doesn't mean he always gets cupcakes.
Speaker 2: Brandon Yuke has requested a trade. He is obviously unhappy
Speaker 2: with what's happening in his trade negotiat or his contract
Speaker 2: negotiations with the San Francisco forty nine ers. He has
Speaker 2: requested a trade. That does not mean the forty nine
Speaker 2: ers are obligated to trade him. Deebo Samuel in the
Speaker 2: past has had requested trades. He is still a forty
Speaker 2: nine er. We have seen other teams and other players
Speaker 2: request trades and teams not trade him. So I guess
Speaker 2: the first question is, Florio, do you believe the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers would actually trade Brandon Ayuk?
Speaker 1: Nope, I think he would be traded by now. We
Speaker 1: talked about it a couple weeks ago on the show,
Speaker 1: like if something like this was gonna happen, I think
Speaker 1: pre free agency, pre draft especially it would have occurred
Speaker 1: because like, yeah, like there's teams out there like the Bills.
Speaker 1: I keep hearing people throw out, and I'm like, the
Speaker 1: Bills don't have the assets to go out and get
Speaker 1: him right now, not at this point in the offseason.
Speaker 1: So I continue to think this is Brandon Ayuk being like, listen,
Speaker 1: do you want me here for one year? Pay me
Speaker 1: and give me a raise, pay me as much as
Speaker 1: I can get, and yeah, like there's smoke coming from
Speaker 1: Washington and stuff like that. But I don't know. I
Speaker 1: continue to think that Brandon Nyuk is going to be
Speaker 1: a member.
Speaker 2: Of the forty nine erston Is there smoke coming from
Speaker 2: Washington or is it because Brandon Nyuk is out here?
Speaker 2: You know, facetiming with his old college teammate who just
Speaker 2: happens to be Washington's new starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's posting like stories that he's watching their
Speaker 4: film and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yo, that's crazy, that's hampering.
Speaker 2: If I'm Washington, I am heated about that right now.
Speaker 2: Then really he's like he's watching video of our offense
Speaker 2: right now, Like, yeah, yeah, I'd be a little bit
Speaker 2: heated about that part.
Speaker 3: It's pretty nasty work.
Speaker 4: But I don't think he finds a better opportunity out
Speaker 4: there right now, to be honest, in the system that
Speaker 4: kind of know how to utilize him, and you have
Speaker 4: a decent connection with your quarterback right now. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's not really much situations that he could fall into
Speaker 4: and actually glow up, I should say, you know, going
Speaker 4: out there getting paid for another team.
Speaker 2: That's sort of the thing is that he really has.
Speaker 2: He's not only fits well in Kyle Shanahan's offense, he
Speaker 2: has become a featured part and he's been their wide
Speaker 2: receiver one for the last couple of seasons. As far
Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, you know, he is talented and there's
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. I just can't imagine he walks
Speaker 2: into another situation where he could get the same level
Speaker 2: of production that he can in San Francisco. But let's
Speaker 2: just say, for whatever reason between now and you know,
Speaker 2: late August, things go completely off the rails, They go
Speaker 2: completely sideways. The situation is untenable. I mean Washington, I
Speaker 2: guess has been thrown out there because he's talked about
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels. I've heard, I've heard, you know, New England
Speaker 2: as a spot that could be really aggressive and going
Speaker 2: to get him. I mean, Florio, is there a good
Speaker 2: Is there a good landing spot outside of San Francisco
Speaker 2: you could imagine for Brandon.
Speaker 1: I you, yeah, like the Bills being won, the Chargers
Speaker 1: being one, and I do think the Commanders would be
Speaker 1: a good one as well. The thing is, I think
Speaker 1: it would come the production would come up a lot differently.
Speaker 1: Like Brandon Ayuk is in San fran is one of
Speaker 1: the most efficient wide receivers every year because like last year,
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred almost thirteen fifty yards on one hundred and
Speaker 1: five targets. Like if he goes somewhere else, that number
Speaker 1: could be one hundred and thirty, one hundred and forty,
Speaker 1: maybe even more than that, and he could still have
Speaker 1: similar production, it just would come in a very different way.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I'm also curious about with Ayuk.
Speaker 1: Like he is awesome, I have him ranked as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver one. I have him ranked ahead of Devonte Adams.
Speaker 1: Like I am high on Brandon Ayuk in San fran
Speaker 1: but I do wonder if you pull him from there
Speaker 1: and he now goes to an offense where there isn't
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Deebo, Samuel George Kittle, and you have to
Speaker 1: focus on everything rather than hone in on one player,
Speaker 1: would he be the same player on a different offense.
Speaker 2: And I think it's a fair question. And I think
Speaker 2: you go back to the Super Bowl when at some
Speaker 2: point the Chiefs decided we're going to take away Brandon
Speaker 2: Ayuk and the Niner offense didn't really have an answer
Speaker 2: for that. And so I think the similar situation. You know,
Speaker 2: if you go somewhere where you are the focal point.
Speaker 2: You know, you go to New England where they don't
Speaker 2: have a whole lot of receiving options and the defense
Speaker 2: tries to take you away. Not to say that he
Speaker 2: falls off a cliff, but certainly he doesn't give you
Speaker 2: we say one hundred and five targets and thirteen hundred,
Speaker 2: which is the anti it. We talked about v Ingram
Speaker 2: on Monday, who had like one hundred and seventy million
Speaker 2: catches and like nine hundred and fifty yards or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was like, it's the.
Speaker 4: Fantasy streets think we're bullying Evan Ingram. It's just that
Speaker 4: we kind of realized in live time we're probably going
Speaker 4: to be fading him.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just sometimes you just think things out loud. Yeah, know,
Speaker 2: like sometimes you just got to talk it out and
Speaker 2: get yourself to a conclusion. It's not bullying. We're just,
Speaker 2: you know, we're just working things. We're working things out.
Speaker 2: This is like our own little therapy session, Mary. We're
Speaker 2: just trying to work him stuff out. But you know,
Speaker 2: speaking of I maybe not being there and ADPs and
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, it's time to drive your
Speaker 2: draft presented by the all new hybrid Toyota Camry. Look,
Speaker 2: this is obviously we are into redraft season. I should
Speaker 2: check and make sure I am not I made a
Speaker 2: pick this morning against Scott Fish. Uh so I am
Speaker 2: not on the clock right now. So they're good there
Speaker 2: I'm in like the eleventh or twelfth round. Like we're
Speaker 2: moving along pretty well progress. But you know, obviously Uk
Speaker 2: is the big story, and you know, real football, fantasy football,
Speaker 2: everybody's sort of focusing on what's happening with him and
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers right now. I mean, for you, Lakwan,
Speaker 2: as these rumors continue and as there's you know, chatter
Speaker 2: whether or not there's any you know, fire to this smoke,
Speaker 2: does this impact how you are drafting Brandon?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Because you still believe in the talent, And like you said,
Speaker 4: just because he's requesting it doesn't mean that it happens.
Speaker 4: And I think if he kind of sits and settles
Speaker 4: with San Francisco, we still I'll get that same production
Speaker 4: that we got out of Brandon Nayuk. Nothing really changes
Speaker 4: for me, Like I don't think there's going to be
Speaker 4: a difference of me going to the draft board and
Speaker 4: taking Brandon Anyuk off the board because I know I'm
Speaker 4: getting a talented wide receiver. So the situation is still
Speaker 4: going to be the same for me. And like it's
Speaker 4: early early, like basically I mean July, but like if
Speaker 4: this was the back end of August, I would be
Speaker 4: a little bit worried, but I still draft him because
Speaker 4: I know the talent is there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's sort of how it
Speaker 2: goes because I know Floria. We seem to do this
Speaker 2: every year with guys, right, there's always somebody who seems
Speaker 2: unhappy when we get these stories about players who are
Speaker 2: talking about holding out, or maybe they do hold out
Speaker 2: the first week or somebody training camp. How do you
Speaker 2: approach guys like that?
Speaker 1: Every player I think is different. But Brandon Nyuk is
Speaker 1: someone that I have not shied away from drafting, like
Speaker 1: I have taken him in. I did three Scott Fishball
Speaker 1: I have him in, and then I did two Best
Speaker 1: Ball drafts this week and I took him in all three.
Speaker 1: Because he's sliding a little bit it and people are
Speaker 1: are being like, oh, what if he gets traded and
Speaker 1: stuff into me. I'm like, all right, I'll just keep
Speaker 1: gobbling up the value because I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be with San fran and if not, I still think
Speaker 1: he'll put up numbers. But like, if Brandon Nyuk is
Speaker 1: a star, so if we get a little bit of
Speaker 1: a discount on him, I'm willing to roll the dice.
Speaker 1: If it was more of like a middling player or
Speaker 1: something like that. I don't think the risk is worth
Speaker 1: a reward then, So every one of these, like last
Speaker 1: year I was, I was still taking Jonathan Taylor, I
Speaker 1: was still taking Cooper Cup. That maybe didn't work out
Speaker 1: in some cases, But like my thinking is always, I
Speaker 1: care about the end of the season so much more
Speaker 1: than I do the first month of the season, because
Speaker 1: that's when you win championships.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 2: The other part that I would just caution people, it
Speaker 2: is July seventeenth.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes it is.
Speaker 2: It is July seventeenth. We've still got what about six
Speaker 2: weeks to go approximately until we're starting week one, you know,
Speaker 2: I know the Niners rookies have reported to camp, the
Speaker 2: veterans have not yet reported to camp. For for the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, we still have a long ways to go,
Speaker 2: you know. And I think think he shows up. I
Speaker 2: think he shows up at some point. And look if
Speaker 2: we get look, if we're in you know, third week
Speaker 2: of the preseason and this is still happening, then yeah,
Speaker 2: he's gonna see his ADP fall, right. But I still
Speaker 2: think until we get definitive proof that he's willing to
Speaker 2: sit out of here because he's still under contract. Minds, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, he still has a gun rolled out.
Speaker 3: He's gone to play.
Speaker 2: He he doesn't really have a ton of leverage. So
Speaker 2: if we get to a point where he's like really
Speaker 2: threatening and viably threatening to miss games, then maybe you
Speaker 2: start to be concerned.
Speaker 1: He for now, it's here's the other thing. I just
Speaker 1: pulled up his contract stuff real quick. He is set
Speaker 1: to make more money this year than he has in
Speaker 1: his entire NFL career. Yeah, so he's not gonna he's
Speaker 1: not gonna throw It's.
Speaker 2: Hard to think he's gonna just toss that aside. So uh,
Speaker 2: at the moment, it's it's interesting chatter. I guess we
Speaker 2: can all wish cast him to our favorite teams or
Speaker 2: what have you by the day.
Speaker 1: This is the last year though, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you agree or not. Marcus has the forty nin understand,
Speaker 1: but I think this is the last year that we
Speaker 1: are seeing this core together.
Speaker 2: I think so, I I think, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: in the end, I think Deebo is probably gonna be
Speaker 2: the odd man out of this group, which from a
Speaker 2: like from from a fan standpoint makes me sad. From
Speaker 2: a business standpoint and a team standpoint, I totally understand
Speaker 2: why he would be. But I'm with you. I think
Speaker 2: I think if they want to make a run with
Speaker 2: this core group, it's got to be this year.
Speaker 1: You think, like that's the other thing you think is
Speaker 1: gonna look at this and be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'd rather sit out and not make any money rather
Speaker 1: than try to win a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: With these guys, Like we've been in the NFC Championship,
Speaker 2: Like how many of you know how many of the
Speaker 2: last few years? Uh do I go to? Yeah, sure
Speaker 2: I can go play with my friend in Washington, But
Speaker 2: they're a lot They're a lot further away from a championship.
Speaker 1: You are like one or two plays away from being
Speaker 1: the champions right now, one or two plays away from
Speaker 1: being a two time champion. Like that, that's how close
Speaker 1: to forty nine ers have been.
Speaker 3: Like we'd seen this play out anyway with Leon.
Speaker 2: Bell, Jimmy Garoppolo hit Emanuel Sanders.
Speaker 1: Oh, is that the play that hurts you? Like, not
Speaker 1: like the CMC fumble from this year or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this this year it wasn't one play that
Speaker 2: hurt it just was a it was like a slow drip. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is a slow drip. This year the the Emanuel
Speaker 2: Sanders overthrow and like on replay they show like Jimmy
Speaker 2: g and his eyes are closed and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to use the force. Do it? Like what's happening?
Speaker 2: You can't go to battle with your eyes closed anyway. Uh? Anyway,
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Speaker 2: quick break, catch our breath, see if I can regroup
Speaker 2: my mentals, and we'll dive into the NFC West preview,
Speaker 2: starting with the Arizona Cardinals that's coming up on the
Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football pot Cast NFC WES. That is the
Speaker 2: division we are looking at on today's show, And as always,
Speaker 2: I will start with the caveat that these are in
Speaker 2: alphabetical order. There's no other ulterior motive to how I
Speaker 2: organize these four teams in this division, so just leave
Speaker 2: it at that. We will start with the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Last year, their top fantasy scorer at quarterback was Kyler Murray,
Speaker 2: despite you know, having to start some other guys to
Speaker 2: kind of fill in the gaps. While he was returning
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty six point three points, he was
Speaker 2: QB twenty eight. James Connor was the RB eighteen overall,
Speaker 2: just over two hundred points for him. Marque's Hollywood Brown
Speaker 2: the top receiver in Arizona. It was bleak for Cardinals
Speaker 2: pass catchers, at least for Cardinals wide receivers Hollywood one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty four point seven Fantasy points wide receiver
Speaker 2: fifty two and Trey McBride the top titand in Arizona
Speaker 2: tight end seven across Fantasy one hundred and eighty one
Speaker 2: and a half Fantasy points. Some of the big losses
Speaker 2: this offseason, Marquise Brown Rondale Moore are both out trade
Speaker 2: key additions, I should say, they drafted Trey Benson, they
Speaker 2: added Desmond Ritter in a trade, and they signed the
Speaker 2: free agents Zay Jones. Right now, first Cardinal off the board,
Speaker 2: not much of a surprise. Marvin Harrison Junior, who I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people have pegged to be the
Speaker 2: offensive rookie of the year right now, about thirteen and
Speaker 2: a half is the average pick where he is going
Speaker 2: off the board. So question number one, and I will
Speaker 2: start with you, Lakwan Jones, Marvin Harrison should be drafted
Speaker 2: in round blank.
Speaker 4: You can get him on the back end in the
Speaker 4: first round. I'm not mad at that, but he's going
Speaker 4: in the early second round. So in those two areas
Speaker 4: is where you should be looking to target him because honestly,
Speaker 4: he's gonna be the engine that makes this offense go downfield.
Speaker 4: I mean alpha wide receiver here that we're talking about,
Speaker 4: where he's gonna see a ton of targets and the
Speaker 4: production is gonna be great because you have Kyler Murray
Speaker 4: back health to go.
Speaker 2: So you're saying you should take him ahead of Greg Dortch. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm glad you got me to say that, but yes,
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you are, like, you know, the
Speaker 2: the chief spokesperson of Dorschland, like this year you are,
Speaker 2: you are, like you know, leading the Dorschland Chamber of
Speaker 2: Commerce and everything. So I just wanted to make sure
Speaker 2: we got that on record that Marvin here, I mean
Speaker 2: second round pick, does he live up to that ADP.
Speaker 2: I know we've seen wide receivers. Flory'll go out and
Speaker 2: have really good years as rookies. This feels like the
Speaker 2: earliest in a while that we've drafted. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think of another rookie receiver we've drafted this early, because
Speaker 2: even like you know, like prime Odell Beckham, maybe Jamar
Speaker 2: Chase had that issue where we thought he was blind
Speaker 2: in one eye and had skillets for hands or something
Speaker 2: like that, because he had like a couple of bad
Speaker 2: preseason games.
Speaker 1: Watkins got hyped a lot, but that's a decade ago,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't going this early. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean even justin je I mean there was like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's just a slot receiver, like there were there were
Speaker 2: there were reasons these other guys got knocked down early.
Speaker 2: This feels like the earliest we've gone for a rookie
Speaker 2: receiver in a while.
Speaker 1: And I think he's a Round one pick. I think
Speaker 1: there's nine true wide receiver ones this year, in my
Speaker 1: opinion at least, and he is one of them. I
Speaker 1: look back at what Kyler Murray was able to do
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins and consistently make him a top five
Speaker 1: wide receiver while he was healthy, and I think Marvin
Speaker 1: Harrison maybe not in year one could be even better
Speaker 1: than that. Like he is a field stretcher, so we
Speaker 1: could put up points in chunks. He's going to be there. Go.
Speaker 1: I love Train McBride. He is not great in the
Speaker 1: red zone. That's like the one weakness in his game.
Speaker 1: So I think Marvin Harrison Junior could easily get double digit,
Speaker 1: maybe even twelve plus touchdowns in year one. I know
Speaker 1: it all sounds very bullish, but like we've seen repeatedly
Speaker 1: year after year now, rookie wide receivers come in and
Speaker 1: be more ready than ever to make a year one impact.
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that like Marvin Harrison isn't
Speaker 1: he doesn't care about the combine and running the.
Speaker 2: Forty and all that.
Speaker 1: It's like, I want to be ready week one to
Speaker 1: be the very best football player I can be. And
Speaker 1: I'm bullish on this whole Cardinals offense as a home.
Speaker 2: I love that Marvin Harrison basically was just Kenny Powers.
Speaker 2: He's like, I play real sports, not trying to be
Speaker 2: the best at evercise. He's like, I'm not doing this
Speaker 2: combine madness. I'm not. He's like, I'm ready to play
Speaker 2: football him right, come on? And it is one of
Speaker 2: those situations that we all dream about where it's talent
Speaker 2: meeting opportunity, right, and you're talking about the guy who
Speaker 2: was rated as the top wide receiver prospect in this
Speaker 2: draft going to a situation where they don't have any
Speaker 2: alpha wide receivers. It is everything that we would want
Speaker 2: in fantasy and that is exactly why he is coming
Speaker 2: off the board late first, early second round. I mean,
Speaker 2: I give you a little bit of a hard time
Speaker 2: about Greg Dortch, Lakwan. I mean, you're not, I mean
Speaker 2: losing realistically, you are not the only person who is
Speaker 2: talking up Greg Dortch. But let's I mean, let's be
Speaker 2: he just frank about this. What are your expectations for him?
Speaker 2: I mean, ceiling wide receiver three, I mean, what are
Speaker 2: you looking at for Dertsch this year?
Speaker 4: So, Deorge, I'm just looking for him to play the
Speaker 4: between twelve to fifteen fantasy points per game, just based
Speaker 4: on what we've seen when he's giving the opportunity in
Speaker 4: the games that he played seventy percent of the snaps
Speaker 4: in the last two seasons with Kyler Murray, he averaged
Speaker 4: fourteen and a half fantasy points per game. So we're
Speaker 4: looking at a guy that has always been there and
Speaker 4: be able to be a guy to step up when
Speaker 4: his name is called and put up Fantasy points when
Speaker 4: he's given the opportunity. So you're looking at Kyler Murray
Speaker 4: co signing him, which is a great co sign saying
Speaker 4: his ability and understanding of coverage and how the separate
Speaker 4: is at an elite level. So therefore you're looking at
Speaker 4: when Kyler Murray returned back from injury. That second game
Speaker 4: where he came back, Greg Dortsch led that team in targets.
Speaker 4: This is with Marquise Brown, Trade McBride and James Connor, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 4: But from Week ten and on, he led that wide
Speaker 4: receiver cord in target. So obviously there's a reason why
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is going to be on him so heavily
Speaker 4: to bail him out on third down and et cetera,
Speaker 4: et cetera. Greg Dortch is a dynamic player, so even
Speaker 4: in fantasy when you get in the double dipping opportunities
Speaker 4: on return yards that I've been talking about for a while.
Speaker 4: But you're looking at his stats last year, he had
Speaker 4: the second most mistackles in return last year.
Speaker 3: So he's elusive.
Speaker 4: He's explosive, and you're getting this guy in the slot
Speaker 4: where he makes a lot of mismatches.
Speaker 2: I'm very curious to sort of watch training camp preseason
Speaker 2: because obviously NHJ is the wide receiver one. They did
Speaker 2: invest a little bit draft wise in Michael Wilson the
Speaker 2: year before. I feel like that's gonna be the battle
Speaker 2: for wide receiver two. Yeah, it's a Greg Dorsch Michael
Speaker 2: Wilson battle. And that's when I want to keep an
Speaker 2: eye on to kind of get a sense of who
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. You know, I saw the photos of
Speaker 2: you know, Kyler Murray hanging out with Greg Dortch looking
Speaker 2: at Post. I saw the post workout. Those dude's hanging
Speaker 2: out or whatever, like he's a beast man waiting the feast.
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting, just waiting to see. We get reports
Speaker 2: of you know, Greg dort showing up with with Krispy
Speaker 2: Kreme at the go let's get it, him and Kyler
Speaker 2: having a big muffins. I should they would probably be
Speaker 2: playing like they'd be playing NCAA football together. Yeah. If
Speaker 2: they're like twitch streaming together, then you know it's real.
Speaker 2: At that point, Florio does Trey Benson have standalone value
Speaker 2: or will it take James Connor getting hurt for him
Speaker 2: to get on the field.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take James Connor getting hurt. I
Speaker 1: think Trey Benson will have a role while James Connor
Speaker 1: is healthy. I just don't know if it is a
Speaker 1: large enough role to trust starting in fantasy, and I
Speaker 1: think he could be one of those players where like
Speaker 1: one week he gets like twelve touches and we're like,
Speaker 1: all right, you can trust this guy. Now he's getting
Speaker 1: enough work behind James Connor, and then the next week
Speaker 1: he'll get like six because the Cardinals were kind of
Speaker 1: like that last year with their RB two with change
Speaker 1: based on the matchup and stuff like that. But while
Speaker 1: James Connor is healthy, I think he'll play sixty plus
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps and have a very strong stranglehold
Speaker 1: on the touches on the ground, especially near the goal line.
Speaker 1: So I think he's one of the top handcuffs. I'm
Speaker 1: just not sure he's gonna have a role unless kind
Speaker 1: of gets hurt.
Speaker 2: I have kind of come around to that. I think
Speaker 2: early on I thought maybe he would carve out a
Speaker 2: role in this offense. I think it's I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be sort of minimal. Everything that
Speaker 2: you're hearing out of Arizona suggests this is this is
Speaker 2: James Connor's it's still his job, and that you know,
Speaker 2: they will sort of sprinkle in Trey Benson. But I
Speaker 2: think it's going to be when Connor gets hurt that
Speaker 2: that you see mostly Benton. That being said, I still
Speaker 2: would take a late shot on Trey Benson in draft,
Speaker 2: depending on depending on how deep your redraft league. It's
Speaker 2: certainly in best Ball. I'm definitely taking the shot, depending
Speaker 2: on how deep your your redraft league is. In the situation,
Speaker 2: it might be worth it because he could be one
Speaker 2: of those guys that later in the year does have
Speaker 2: an impact on this team.
Speaker 1: You hear a lot like, oh, it's don't take your
Speaker 1: own handcuffs, it takes other people's handcuffs, and I genuinely
Speaker 1: agree with that, But like a situation like this, if
Speaker 1: I have James Connor, I want.
Speaker 2: To cover I want to cover my basis because Connor
Speaker 2: has never He's only played fifteen games in a season once, right,
Speaker 2: So like that feels like that really is buying an
Speaker 2: insurance policy after this is getting trained.
Speaker 4: You're buying a good insurance policy because you know Trade
Speaker 4: Benson can play. This is one of the top running
Speaker 4: back prospects this year.
Speaker 2: Exact reason, exactly, so for sure, I make sure to
Speaker 2: do that. Moving over to the Los Angeles Rams their
Speaker 2: top scores this past year, Matthew Stafford was their top
Speaker 2: QB No surprise there, two hundred and sixty five point
Speaker 2: seven points QB fifteen. Kyrien Williams had a phenomenal season
Speaker 2: last year. RB seven two hundred and fifty five points
Speaker 2: for him. Phuka Aakua who just blew everyone away a
Speaker 2: wide receiver for just shy of three hundred fantasy points
Speaker 2: for him. Tight End not so great. Tyler higives a
Speaker 2: tight end twenty three, one hundred and eight and a
Speaker 2: half points for him. He losses. You have to lose
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald. That doesn't really affect our fantasy drafting. I
Speaker 2: said text, I see you're sad. Yeah, I see the
Speaker 2: sad face you put here in the show sheets. Uh
Speaker 2: I got Aaron Donald being, you know, retiring. Which side note,
Speaker 2: I've been fortun to pick up a little side hustle
Speaker 2: doing some some radio here in Los Angeles, and one
Speaker 2: of the hosts at the station I do some work at.
Speaker 2: He has no proof, he has no facts or anything
Speaker 2: to back it up, but he believes in his heart
Speaker 2: that Aaron Donald's gonna come back and play football.
Speaker 3: Man, don't tell me that.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me. Yeah, he's like, he's like, I don't
Speaker 2: have any information, no inside information. He's like, I just
Speaker 2: think that he's not done, that he still has some
Speaker 2: good football left, and that maybe after a year or
Speaker 2: so out, he'll he'll decide that he wants to come back.
Speaker 1: In a year or so out.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, don't do that, don't get I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll know. He's like a year to be
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna be retired and like and jah, you know,
Speaker 2: and just like relax or whatever. And then maybe after
Speaker 2: a year he's like, wait a minute, I still miss
Speaker 2: it again. There's no facts behind it. It's just it's
Speaker 2: all vibes. It's all I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna say, Man, he's getting up there, he's thirty three,
Speaker 1: and then I realized we are two months apart in age.
Speaker 2: I won't say that, honestly. That's why I kept cheering
Speaker 2: for Tom Brady to stick around, because like he's you know,
Speaker 2: he was like, he's three months younger than me. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: keep doing your thing, dog like doing, keep going, Doug.
Speaker 2: Some of the additions they do add a guard to
Speaker 2: help on the offensive line, Johan Jackson, and they add
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, who I just lamented about overthrowing Emmanuel Sanders.
Speaker 2: So good luck with that first off the board. No surprise,
Speaker 2: they're pooking Akua after his phenomenal rookie season right around
Speaker 2: pick ten or so. All right, so I'm going to
Speaker 2: ask you this, Lakwana, as the resident Rams fan here,
Speaker 2: the future of Kiraene Williams, right, because he was amazing
Speaker 2: last year. I don't think anybody expected him to do
Speaker 2: what he did, the fact that that they loved him
Speaker 2: so much they shifted cam Akers off to Minnesota, but
Speaker 2: they also went out and drafted Blake Korum this year.
Speaker 2: What does the future look like for Kien Williams for
Speaker 2: those who maybe are holding him or maybe considering adding
Speaker 2: him in Dynasty.
Speaker 3: Well, we know how great the talent is. We know
Speaker 3: he can ball.
Speaker 4: We saw last year, we saw the numbers, which is great.
Speaker 4: He's a free agent in twenty twenty five. They drafted
Speaker 4: Blake Korm and you're looking at the injury history starting
Speaker 4: to pile love and from a business side, can you
Speaker 4: honestly think the Rams are going to invest as high
Speaker 4: as they invested into a Todd Gurley at or etc.
Speaker 4: I really don't see it happening because Blake Korm is
Speaker 4: a talented running back as a backup that can probably
Speaker 4: leap him at any point if Kyra Williams is off
Speaker 4: the field with injury. So you're looking at some of
Speaker 4: the qualities that Blake Korn brings. You know, he's great
Speaker 4: in the red zone, the lateral speed, he's quick, shifty.
Speaker 4: This dude is the guy that you want to have
Speaker 4: in open space. You can get a little bit more
Speaker 4: pop out of him. Also in screen passes as well.
Speaker 4: But I feel like Kyri Williams has to prove that
Speaker 4: he can sustain a full workload as a RB one.
Speaker 4: So in Dynasty right now, I hate to say it
Speaker 4: is as a RAMS fan, but I'm looking to sell
Speaker 4: as quick as possible, being that this year might be
Speaker 4: the year, the only year you can get this high
Speaker 4: price in return for him.
Speaker 2: I just keep holding on to the fact that traditionally,
Speaker 2: you know in the post Todd Gurley era, Sean McVay
Speaker 2: has been reluctant to just consistently lean on one guy.
Speaker 2: And the fact that when it comes to draft capital,
Speaker 2: they have slightly more invested in Blake Korum yea than
Speaker 2: they do in Kyron Williams. Now, I don't think that
Speaker 2: that means they're just gonna send me punt Kyron away
Speaker 2: this year, like after what he did last year. He's
Speaker 2: still going to be the RB one and he's still
Speaker 2: going to get a lot of work. But I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be surprised if you see Korum chop into that a
Speaker 2: little bit. And I guess I'll Florida'll ask you the
Speaker 2: same question I asked you about Trey Benson. I mean,
Speaker 2: does Blake Coorm potentially have a standalone value in this
Speaker 2: offense or is he strictly the understudy to Kien Williams.
Speaker 1: I think he'll have a role. I think I feel
Speaker 1: kind of similar to Trey Benson, though I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if it'll be large enough where you could start Blake
Speaker 1: Korum in fantasy if Kien Williams is healthy. I know
Speaker 1: we keep saying it like they has since Gurley has
Speaker 1: not had one running back that he trusts. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure though, if that is McVeigh changing or if that's
Speaker 1: more about cam Akers and the fact that he just
Speaker 1: flat out couldn't trust one running back for the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. He did, They really did, and there
Speaker 1: were stretches where McVeigh was like, all right, you're getting
Speaker 1: twenty five touches this game and we're not using another
Speaker 1: running back. He used Darryl Henderson like that for a
Speaker 1: bit last year. So I think they probably want to
Speaker 1: use Korum enough to keep Kyen fresh and keep him
Speaker 1: on the field. But I don't think that this is
Speaker 1: gonna be anywhere close to a fifty to fifty split.
Speaker 1: Like I do believe Kien Williams is still the guy.
Speaker 1: I agree with lq's point though, like if you could
Speaker 1: sell him now and get a boatload in Dynasty, do it.
Speaker 1: But for redraft that where he's going in the third round,
Speaker 1: I find myself a lot more likely to draft him
Speaker 1: than I thought I would be when I expected him
Speaker 1: to be a borderline first or second round pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what to think. Again, He's another
Speaker 2: one that in Best Ball I'm definitely taking shots at.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what I do in re draft leagues.
Speaker 2: And I said this before, like I want to wait
Speaker 2: for preseason, but we know that, you know, Chemmy Vay
Speaker 2: doesn't play his dudes playing them, So like we're gonna
Speaker 2: we're gonna learn absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3: Week one is when you learn everything anything.
Speaker 2: From the preseason about what the Rams are gonna do
Speaker 2: uh with their offense at all? I mean, Florida. Ill'll
Speaker 2: stick with you here though, Like Pooka Naku obviously was
Speaker 2: a phenomenon last year for everybody who drafted him late,
Speaker 2: you know, but there are a lot of people who
Speaker 2: liked him, not enough to like plant a super flag,
Speaker 2: but like, you know, like enough to draft him late. Right,
Speaker 2: Like I took him late in a couple of drafts.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, man, let's see what happens if
Speaker 2: this kid, maybe you know, gets on the field a
Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, turned out he was a top five
Speaker 2: fantasy right. So now we're drafting him late first round?
Speaker 2: Are we drafting him at his ceiling? And I guess
Speaker 2: the corresponding question to that is does this mean we're
Speaker 2: underdrafting or forgetting about Cooper Cup I.
Speaker 1: Think yes to both of those. But just because we're
Speaker 1: potentially drafting Pook around his ceiling doesn't mean he's a
Speaker 1: bad pick. Like if you could get him there late
Speaker 1: first and you know I'm gonna get I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not banking on the fifteen hundred yards we got
Speaker 1: last year. I would take him expecting twelve to thirteen,
Speaker 1: and if he gave me that, I'm satisfied. But I
Speaker 1: do look at what he did after Cooper Cup return
Speaker 1: last year. Throw out the first month where he was
Speaker 1: getting fifteen and twenty targets. The first two games of
Speaker 1: the season, he was on pace for just under thirteen
Speaker 1: hundred yards and eighty six catches, which is twenty less
Speaker 1: catches and two hundred less yards, and he ended up
Speaker 1: actually finishing with But that also, I think what gets
Speaker 1: overlooked when you compare these two numbers A lot people
Speaker 1: often throw out the first month, but then they leave
Speaker 1: the part of the season in where Cooper Cup sustained
Speaker 1: a high ankle spring played twenty seven percent of the
Speaker 1: snaps one game. The next two weeks he played, but
Speaker 1: he came out and flat out said like I was
Speaker 1: not healthy, Like he played the decoy role. So I
Speaker 1: throw those three games out as well, and then when
Speaker 1: you look at the game for Pooka, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of huge games where he'd put up like one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty plus yards, but then there's a lot
Speaker 1: of games where he's sitting in the like twenty seven, fifty,
Speaker 1: forty one, thirty two. So, like, I think his range
Speaker 1: of outcomes week to week is very wide.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think we are drafting him at
Speaker 2: his ceiling. I think the counterpoints that is his ceiling
Speaker 2: apparently is very high. Yeah, so that's that's sort of
Speaker 2: the good news with that part. I think with Cooper cup,
Speaker 2: I think we're starting to just bake in our concerns
Speaker 2: about a guy who, while he has been very good,
Speaker 2: first off, it's wild to think. You look, he's only
Speaker 2: had two thousand yard seasons in his career, which is
Speaker 2: sort of mind. He's only had two seasons with double digits,
Speaker 2: only had two seasons with more than six touchdowns. It
Speaker 2: just feels like he's put it out the string of
Speaker 2: phenomenal years which he's been very good. Like, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna take that away from he's had a lot of
Speaker 2: very good years, but he's also, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: been beat up the last couple of years exactly, you know,
Speaker 2: and I think I think, at you guy who just
Speaker 2: turned thirty one, who's had a growing list of injuries.
Speaker 2: I think that's sort of where you're seeing the ADP
Speaker 2: kind of come down on him a little bit, and correspondingly,
Speaker 2: that means, well, if if the ball is not going
Speaker 2: to be going to Cooper Cup, it's got to be
Speaker 2: going somewhere, and that is why we're seeing Pooka and
Speaker 2: Nakua get drafted where he is. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like my roster builds and redraft
Speaker 4: this year, Pooka is not a bad pick in the
Speaker 4: first round. I don't want to get out of the
Speaker 4: habit saying it's a bad pick, but I feel like
Speaker 4: we're drafting him and his ADP is banking on Cooper
Speaker 4: Cup getting hurt because when Cooper Cup was banged up,
Speaker 4: he still was able to be Cooper Cup at times,
Speaker 4: Like if you look at last year, he still has
Speaker 4: the ability to get behind the defenders. I mean three
Speaker 4: point three separation target rate last year when targeted at
Speaker 4: twenty plus yards. So he still has the big playability
Speaker 4: in him and he's a guy that he's going to
Speaker 4: be Matthew Stafford's number one target when it comes to
Speaker 4: crunch time. That's where I'm banking on this year. He's healthy,
Speaker 4: so I think we're overlooking him to where I feel
Speaker 4: like my roster builds when I go wide receiver or
Speaker 4: wherever I do in the first couple of rounds, and
Speaker 4: then I can get Cooper Cup as my wide receiver
Speaker 4: two or three. My team just feels a lot more
Speaker 4: better just having a guy that I know is the
Speaker 4: guy went healthy.
Speaker 1: And to the injury point, I'm someone I think the
Speaker 1: injury prone gets way over hyped and everything, like if
Speaker 1: he had a severe injury where he needed surgery or
Speaker 1: something like that, sure, or if it was the same
Speaker 1: injury over and over again. Two years ago he suffered
Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain and the RAMS were awful and
Speaker 1: they were like, listen, we're just shutting him down. And
Speaker 1: then last year I think the hamstring string in preseason
Speaker 1: derailed his entire season. So I do think there's a
Speaker 1: there's a chance to be like where Cooper Cup. Maybe
Speaker 1: not what he was like the greatest receiver year ever,
Speaker 1: but I do think he could be a lot better
Speaker 1: than what we've seen last year. Because remember two years ago,
Speaker 1: he was on pace to match what.
Speaker 2: He did in that.
Speaker 1: That's crazy season Player of the Year. So I I
Speaker 1: still I think the injuries get a little over hyped
Speaker 1: when it comes to Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2: Side note, Is there any other receiver where we say
Speaker 2: his whole name every time we talk about him? No one,
Speaker 2: we know, we're just saying Cup. We're always Cooper.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Cup?
Speaker 3: Yeh?
Speaker 2: I mean, just because it rolls off the tongue it
Speaker 2: sounds fun. Is probably another one.
Speaker 1: Talk bad about him? He's right here.
Speaker 2: It's not an insult. It's brillly an observation, that's all.
Speaker 2: Is kind of getting that way too, because we just
Speaker 2: sort of, I guess we say Pooka. We just say Pooka,
Speaker 2: but it's like share but Cooper Cup, like we just
Speaker 2: we say the whole you know, it's like a Tripaul quest,
Speaker 2: you say the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: a part of the show where Lakwan Jones gets to
Speaker 2: be a hater. We're talking about San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Last year, brock Perty was the QB seven despite all
Speaker 2: the haters. The haters will say it was faked, but
Speaker 2: he had three hundred and fifty six points seven Fantasy points.
Speaker 2: Was QB seven. No surprise that Christian McCaffrey was the
Speaker 2: RB one, because that's what Christian McCaffrey does, just goes
Speaker 2: out and scores a whole lot of fantasy points. And
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here for the lovererbustings. I didn't put it
Speaker 2: in the sheet. Three hundred and ninety one point three
Speaker 2: points four Christian McCaffrey. Brandon Ayuk, the apparently disgruntled at
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk was your wide receiver fourteen two hundred and
Speaker 2: forty nine points for him and George Kittle, even in
Speaker 2: a quote unquote down year, was the tight end five
Speaker 2: with just over two hundred and three fantasy points. Key losses. Well,
Speaker 2: at the moment, we're still sort of waiting. We'll see
Speaker 2: Brandon I is there or not. But for the moment,
Speaker 2: everything is pretty much intact with this offense. They did
Speaker 2: go out and draft Ricky Pearsall. They signed Josh Dobbs
Speaker 2: in free agency first off the board, no surprise. It
Speaker 2: is the aforementioned CMC high first round usually pick one
Speaker 2: point three somewhere in there, depending or I'd rather I
Speaker 2: should say he's averaging the one point three, so he
Speaker 2: might be first, he might be second, depends on how
Speaker 2: your league shakes out. Heyo, Ricky Pearsall. We mentioned he
Speaker 2: was drafted. He was put on the non football injury
Speaker 2: list to start training camp. But there's been a lot
Speaker 2: of talk that whenever the Niners sort of break up
Speaker 2: the fellowship of the Ring and whether it's Ayuk or
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel or whomever, that that really is gonna be
Speaker 2: Rickey Pearsoon's time to shine. But you know, with the
Speaker 2: rumors swirling about Brandon Ayuk wanting out, is it worth
Speaker 2: throwing a dart at Ricky Pearsol late in a draft
Speaker 2: just in case? Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. Like I've been targeting him in
Speaker 1: my best ball drafts. If you're doing redraft right now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so, because if look, if we're talking now
Speaker 1: late August and Ayuk is still on the team, then
Speaker 1: in redraft, where rosters are a lot shallower, I'll probably
Speaker 1: go in a different direction. But I do like Pearsall.
Speaker 1: I liked him as a prospect. I said he kind
Speaker 1: of reminded me of Adam Thielen in the sense that
Speaker 1: he could play in the slot and out wide and
Speaker 1: good hands, good route runner, just a piece that at
Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan will have an absolute field day with
Speaker 1: I think. And that's the thing, like, even if Ayuk
Speaker 1: and Deebo were there right now, injuries happen, so like
Speaker 1: in best ball and stuff, I want this guy because
Speaker 1: I trust Shanahan and the forty nine ers system that
Speaker 1: even if they have to throw in a backup, they'll
Speaker 1: get the most out of him.
Speaker 2: I think he definitely fits in the offense right he is.
Speaker 2: He is a Shanahan guy in the sense if he
Speaker 2: can run routes, he can get open uh, they can
Speaker 2: find ways to get him the football. I think he
Speaker 2: probably maybe pushes out Juwan Jennings a little bit because
Speaker 2: last year, there was a third in Juwan was a
Speaker 2: real thing for this offense, but it wasn't enough to
Speaker 2: bank your fantasy hopes on right, Like he was a
Speaker 2: guy who was really key. He had a lot of
Speaker 2: big catches for that offense and and helped move the
Speaker 2: chains in big situation. We saw it in the playoffs
Speaker 2: he did that. There's a point in the super Bowl
Speaker 2: where he looked like he was going to be the MVP,
Speaker 2: Like early on in the Super Bowls like, well, Juwan
Speaker 2: Jennings actually be super Bowl Like, no, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, but it looked like it was gonna be.
Speaker 2: I think Ricky Piersall eventually sorts starts to play that role.
Speaker 2: I think in deep leagues he's worth that dart throw late.
Speaker 2: He's definitely worth it in in bestball leagues, Yeah, Redrafty,
Speaker 2: keep an eye on him, keep an eye on the
Speaker 2: iu CA news there all right, if we're I was
Speaker 2: in here playing hypotheticals though, lakwan uh. If there is
Speaker 2: no Brandon, I does that put a big dent into
Speaker 2: rock parties potential?
Speaker 4: Probably not a big dent, but it will be a
Speaker 4: noticeable dent. I mean, you're looking at Ayuk as one
Speaker 4: of his most reliable targets out there when it comes
Speaker 4: to hands, route running, understanding where to be in the offense.
Speaker 4: And you look at Ayuk as this alpha and then
Speaker 4: you remove him, it's kind of like, all right, who's
Speaker 4: going to step up to be that next reliable target.
Speaker 4: I think he will be fine for most cases in
Speaker 4: real life football, and for fantasy he should. He should
Speaker 4: take a dip down with Ayuk gone, because I really
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, Deebo will have to step up.
Speaker 4: He'd probably get more involved in not saying anything knocking
Speaker 4: towards him. But this could be a good thing for
Speaker 4: George Kittle because that was his second best option when
Speaker 4: targeting him last season when it came to completion percentage.
Speaker 4: So I don't think it will be a huge dent
Speaker 4: to brock perty, but you're just hoping that Ricky Piersoll
Speaker 4: kind of steps up into that role when he's ready
Speaker 4: to go to step up as another weapon because we
Speaker 4: saw the catch radius is insane or pretty ricky. I
Speaker 4: call him move his rout runner out of the class.
Speaker 4: I would say, it's just like this dude can really
Speaker 4: do anything playing outside playing the slot. You look at
Speaker 4: his highlights, you're like, man, this is a Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 4: guy to where he's going to deploy him and get
Speaker 4: the best out of him.
Speaker 3: So I really feel like rock Party is still sitting
Speaker 3: pretty where he's at.
Speaker 2: It's funny because Party is a guy that you know,
Speaker 2: he gets drafted outside the top probably top twelve quarterbacks
Speaker 2: in a last situations. I was finding it harder as
Speaker 2: Best Ball season went on to be able to get
Speaker 2: Party though, Like I felt like people were I don't
Speaker 2: know if people were like seeing me try to like
Speaker 2: quietly put together a stack and you know, people love
Speaker 2: to just be jerks and like and snipe me and
Speaker 2: like what did I do to you? Like I don't
Speaker 2: even know you, you know, Cowboys fan thirty seven, Like
Speaker 2: what are you doing? But I didn't know. I think
Speaker 2: people sort of understand that, you know, no matter how
Speaker 2: you feel about him, the dude's putting up numbers. He is,
Speaker 2: and I think that, you know, some of it is
Speaker 2: some of it is the offense that he is in
Speaker 2: for sure. It was just that, like the guy makes plays.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we said that about golf too, Like they're kind
Speaker 4: of similar, you know, like they're just guys that go
Speaker 4: out there and do their job and execute.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't really knock that.
Speaker 2: I just I said this last year on the show,
Speaker 2: like it felt like the biggest knock on brock Purty
Speaker 2: was like, well he doesn't do what Patrick Mahomes does,
Speaker 2: and they're like, well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cross wires, because they're always like, well, he's like
Speaker 1: the eighth most important player on that offense. And I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with that, Like I think the weapons and
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan are all more important than brock Purty is.
Speaker 1: But for fantasy, I don't care. I get all of
Speaker 1: those points the same from brock Purty.
Speaker 3: So can he execute?
Speaker 2: That's all I care. He's you know, he's the guy who,
Speaker 2: like you know, he plays within the structure of the offense,
Speaker 2: and every once in a while he will actually go
Speaker 2: out and do something. They're like, that's all you need,
Speaker 2: that's all you need.
Speaker 1: I do think losing Nyuk would be a huge dent
Speaker 1: to his value because last year was about fifty percent
Speaker 1: of all the production that came touchdowns, catches, yards and
Speaker 1: came on deep balls. We're all to Brandon Nayuk. So
Speaker 1: I think that you lose that aspect of the offense.
Speaker 1: Now you can't load it like maybe you could load
Speaker 1: up more near closer to the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 1: make life a little tougher.
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel a guy that does a lot of great
Speaker 2: things for the forty nine ers. He's one that I
Speaker 2: feel like is more valuable in real football than he
Speaker 2: is in fantasy football. And I'm looking here at what
Speaker 2: his ADP is right now, being drafted as the wide
Speaker 2: receiver sixteen, just after Jalen Waddle, just ahead of Mike Evans.
Speaker 2: Is he being overdrafted Lukwan, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think so, man.
Speaker 4: I honestly think with his IUQ news, people are going
Speaker 4: to be thankful to get Debo because they're hoping for
Speaker 4: him to return back to form of being the guy
Speaker 4: that can get the rushing attend screen, a little bit
Speaker 4: more explosive, a little bit more reckless with his body,
Speaker 4: because that's really when he was, like at his peak.
Speaker 2: Of just performance, but when he was deboing people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when he was people.
Speaker 2: But he got the bag, so now he's good.
Speaker 1: But I feel like.
Speaker 4: Debo he's still one of those assets you got to
Speaker 4: be thankful to have on your rosters. Really, no matter
Speaker 4: where you get him. I mean we're not getting him
Speaker 4: in the first two rounds, but that third round, Like
Speaker 4: if you're looking for a wide receiver two or three,
Speaker 4: if you're being as wide receiver heavy as I am
Speaker 4: in most of my building redraft, I think you're still
Speaker 4: in a great spot sitting pretty I.
Speaker 2: Just think the week to week variants can be wide
Speaker 2: it can be with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: Argue year to year as well, because he was two
Speaker 1: Three years ago he was a top three wide receiver
Speaker 1: and total points in points per game. Then two years
Speaker 1: ago he was wide receiver twenty eight points per game,
Speaker 1: and then last year was wide receiver twelve. It's touchdown,
Speaker 1: but like he was the only player in the NFL
Speaker 1: last year with five receiving and five rushing touchdowns. If
Speaker 1: he loses a couple of those touchdowns, I feel like
Speaker 1: he's probably a little bit closer to being top twenty,
Speaker 1: maybe even a little.
Speaker 2: Bit outside of that. Yeah, I just I mean, he's
Speaker 2: a really good play and he does a lot of
Speaker 2: really good things for the forty nine ers. I just
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like, one maybe we're still holding
Speaker 2: onto that season from two years ago, when like that's
Speaker 2: his career year he did. He did everything, but that
Speaker 2: was also out of necessity because they had so many
Speaker 2: injuries that he was he he caught the ball, he
Speaker 2: ran the ball. I think he even threw a touchdown,
Speaker 2: you know, somewhere late in the season.
Speaker 1: With Wolverine that year, they basically would have to pull
Speaker 1: him off the turf and we'd be like, all right,
Speaker 1: de Bo's done for the days later.
Speaker 3: He's back out there doing amazing. What happens when you
Speaker 3: back chasing, So.
Speaker 2: There you go, hey man, whatever works. I just, you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like he's a guy that we are. We
Speaker 2: looked at what he does in totality, but it doesn't
Speaker 2: necessarily always translate to fantasy. And I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: I've been drafting Ayuk over Debo for the most part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have you should I have them decent. I
Speaker 1: have Ayuk I think at ten or eleven in my rankings,
Speaker 1: and Deebo is closer to twenty.
Speaker 2: See at least right now where he's going, Like, they're
Speaker 2: not that far apart, right I think right now, i
Speaker 2: Uk is wide receiver fourteen, Deebo's wide receiver sixteen. I
Speaker 2: feel like there's a bigger gap.
Speaker 3: That gap should be.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a bigger gap there between the
Speaker 2: two of them. Sure. Our last team in the NFC
Speaker 2: West is the Seattle Seahawks. Gino Smith was their top
Speaker 2: quarterback QB nineteen couldn't quite follow up his career season
Speaker 2: from the year before, two hundred and twenty nine point
Speaker 2: three points for him. Kenneth Walker the RB nineteen, just
Speaker 2: shy of two hundred fantasy points there. DK Metcalf the
Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty one, two hundred and twenty five point
Speaker 2: four points. No offense, their top tight end tight end
Speaker 2: thirty one seventy three point four points, no real notable
Speaker 2: losses in the offseason. In the they did add Sam
Speaker 2: Howell through free agency. They also added an offensive lineman,
Speaker 2: center Nick Harris, from the Cleveland Browns. Dk Metcalf first
Speaker 2: Sea Hawks being drafted right now, twenty six point nine
Speaker 2: fantasy points for him. Change it. Offensive coordinate Ryan Grubb
Speaker 2: comes in. Mike McDonald is the new head coach after
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll steps down. Ryan Grubb led the offense at
Speaker 2: the University of Washington. I mean, look, Florio. People were
Speaker 2: excited about Michael PENNOCKX. They were excited about Romo Doonzay.
Speaker 2: They had pieces there, the Huskies could score points. Will
Speaker 2: this be more of a vertical offense? Now? With those
Speaker 2: guys running the show, that's the hope.
Speaker 1: Like Grubb was able to do a really good job.
Speaker 1: Oh Junez was the star of the show. But they
Speaker 1: had three viable wide receivers in Washington and Penix put
Speaker 1: up huge numbers. They were last year eighth highest pass
Speaker 1: percentage of Power five schools, but the Seahawks last season
Speaker 1: already threw at the seventh highest rate in the league.
Speaker 1: That was a little bit more of a necessity trailing
Speaker 1: a lot having to throw. But front of the show
Speaker 1: a little bit like Scott Engel. You guys know, I
Speaker 1: do a radio show with him on the side, and
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about Seattle. Trust me, when with
Speaker 1: Scott you're calling Seattle. He is a Patriots fan, Seattle.
Speaker 1: He's like, that's the whole gig, right, Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Like I have a tough time buying into
Speaker 1: this Seahawks offense becoming one of the better passing attacks
Speaker 1: because it's still a defensive minded head coach who came
Speaker 1: from Baltimore's system, which has always been ground and pound
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and then yes, I understand you
Speaker 1: have this new young oc real lot of sus sex
Speaker 1: in college, but he's never done it at the NFL level.
Speaker 1: And then your quarterback is still Geno Smith. Like, no
Speaker 1: disrespect to Gino, but he had one good year in
Speaker 1: his NFL career and it was largely propped up by
Speaker 1: a high touchdown rate. So I think, like I still
Speaker 1: view DK as kind of like like a wide receiver too,
Speaker 1: who can have some big weeks but will also just
Speaker 1: be kind of up and down all year. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, do you guys disagree. Am I too low
Speaker 1: on this offense or I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think we're kind of too low on it, And
Speaker 4: just expectations wise of Grub I think him coming in
Speaker 4: and turning that program around rather quickly wash it and
Speaker 4: it is pretty impressive. I mean, what we honestly could
Speaker 4: expect from this offense honestly is like a lot of
Speaker 4: quick passes, a lot of deep shots. Because Pennix led
Speaker 4: to the FBS last year with the most passes of
Speaker 4: a twenty plus yard so I'm thinking those big shots
Speaker 4: could really benefit DK. If we're thinking about those big,
Speaker 4: big weeks, I think it'll be more frequent. And even
Speaker 4: looking at Gino as a passer downfield, he's third in
Speaker 4: completion percentage in these last two seasons on passes of
Speaker 4: twenty plus yards. So I think if you're going to
Speaker 4: open this offense up as a more vertical offense to
Speaker 4: be more aggressive going downfield, Jasn's one of those benefactors
Speaker 4: there too as well.
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my question to you, right, because
Speaker 2: you know Jackson Smith and Jigba last year it was
Speaker 2: a disappointing season, But I think when you step back
Speaker 2: and look at it, it was less about the player
Speaker 2: and more about the scheme and the system. Right. They
Speaker 2: used him as a short option, you know, Like I know,
Speaker 2: he was kind of banged up at the start of
Speaker 2: the year. A lot of the routes he was running
Speaker 2: were pretty much close to the line of scrimmage. It
Speaker 2: wasn't a big average depth of target. Does this mean
Speaker 2: we can expect more downfield throws for JSN? And as
Speaker 2: much as it hurts my heart to say this, because
Speaker 2: I am a bona fide Tyler Lockett, Stan does does
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and jig but push Tyler Lockett aside as
Speaker 2: the wide receiver too.
Speaker 3: I think it could happen.
Speaker 4: And I say this only because Tyler Locke that has
Speaker 4: been close to my heart too, is one of those
Speaker 4: guys that we've been drafting is undervalue guys. But I
Speaker 4: think this is the year, you know, where JSN breaks out,
Speaker 4: being utilized more to where his skill set is. Those
Speaker 4: couple of deep shots last year, a couple of touchdowns
Speaker 4: he had where he's lined up about wide and he's
Speaker 4: taking a deep shot and he's taken it to the house.
Speaker 4: He has home run and building and I think some
Speaker 4: of those plays, you know, with him close to the
Speaker 4: scrimmage doesn't get taken away completely because the dude has
Speaker 4: yaking him. So if you're going to have this vertical offense,
Speaker 4: I think we might see JSN more utilized downfield, where
Speaker 4: I think he could really excel. So I'm banking that
Speaker 4: this is going to be the breakout season. I mean,
Speaker 4: even if Jason finishes outside the top thirty, to me,
Speaker 4: that's a breakout season and that's a huge win in
Speaker 4: my book, especially where he's going and drafts.
Speaker 1: He's the one that I want most.
Speaker 2: Of this receiving call. Yeah, Yeah, He's the guy that
Speaker 2: I'm I'm really optimistic about him this year.
Speaker 1: I think Lockett, it look it pains me to say
Speaker 1: we you as well, La Calon, but we've been talking
Speaker 1: him up for years as like a guy we like
Speaker 1: a lot, and I think he's just last year was
Speaker 1: the beginning of the end, like he look at every
Speaker 1: metric of his and it was career worse or worse
Speaker 1: in the next stats era pretty much. And then I
Speaker 1: think the plan from day one was Jaysen, You're gonna
Speaker 1: learn year one under these two guys, and then year
Speaker 1: two is when you're going to take over. And I
Speaker 1: think we get that maybe the first month of the season.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit slow, as there's an adjustment period,
Speaker 1: but I think Jaysn is gonna firmly be this team's.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver team. Yeah. No, I mean I think that
Speaker 2: is sort of what's coming. I would not be surprised
Speaker 2: at all. And I do think this is gonna be
Speaker 2: more of an attacking downfield offense. So we'll say, but
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you, guys. I think this is
Speaker 2: sort of the last hurrah for Tyler Lockett. It's even
Speaker 2: as slightly viable.
Speaker 1: He's like the number one in the Seattle area I believe.
Speaker 1: So he's doing all right? Is he really? He is
Speaker 1: a real estate agent on the side, and I think
Speaker 1: he like sells houses to his teammates.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Like it is a legit. Like DK was
Speaker 1: like he's at practice world studying the playbook. This dude's
Speaker 1: reading up about housing and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That's kind of dope. Actually yeah, I actually I love that.
Speaker 2: I respect the hell out of that. That's pretty dope.
Speaker 2: Not gonna lie last thing here. Uh the backfield situation.
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker is the RB one, but Zach Sharbonay is
Speaker 2: still hanging around there. Uh. I mean, lakwan, how do
Speaker 2: you expect this thing to shake out in the backfield?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: I was trying to do my rankings the other week, man,
Speaker 4: and like, I don't know where to put Kenneth Walker, Like,
Speaker 4: are we expecting just like another like mid tierish RB
Speaker 4: two season from him? I mean, Zach Sharbony is going
Speaker 4: to be involved. I mean, that's honestly what we can expect.
Speaker 4: Last season, this dude was getting on the field more
Speaker 4: times than we actually wanted to see. Zach Charbonay and
Speaker 4: I know coming out of college he was like six
Speaker 4: point six yards per carry, like efficient runner, and like
Speaker 4: you kind of don't want that behind Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 2: I'm really not too sure what to expect.
Speaker 3: Out of him.
Speaker 4: So how I treat things, I just avoid the headache
Speaker 4: if I don't know it, and I can't really break
Speaker 4: down in my head a decision like I honestly don't
Speaker 4: want any parts of this backfield same flora.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more likely to especially Sharboney, where
Speaker 1: he's going is so late in drafts that I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll when I'm looking for backup running backs,
Speaker 1: I'm fine throwing a shot on him. But one thing
Speaker 1: you hear a lot is like, well, in the second
Speaker 1: half of the year, Charboney really ate into Kendieth Walker's workload.
Speaker 1: And it's like in snaps only from week eight on
Speaker 1: when they both played, it was fifty one to forty
Speaker 1: nine percent snaps, but one hundred and six carries for
Speaker 1: Walker to thirty seven for sharbon Ay and twenty targets
Speaker 1: to nineteen. And the Charbonnay people might hold your hat
Speaker 1: on that he was supposed to be the pass catching back.
Speaker 1: So the fact that Walker had more targets to me
Speaker 1: is a little concerning, and Walker is still so explosive
Speaker 1: that I don't love him at costs, but I'm always
Speaker 1: tempted to take him.
Speaker 2: I just I did like sharbon A coming out of college,
Speaker 2: and then I would watch him in the NFL and
Speaker 2: he just he looked slow. Yeah, he looked like a plotter.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't remember. I don't remember this
Speaker 2: version of him at UCLA. But yeah, you're right. I mean,
Speaker 2: the snaps went up significantly over the back half of
Speaker 2: the season, but if it doesn't equate the touches, then
Speaker 2: you know, what are we doing here? Yeah? Headache, it
Speaker 2: is It's just it's it's no good for anybody, right,
Speaker 2: It's it's it's frustrating for the Kenneth Walker people because
Speaker 2: your guy isn't on the field as much. It's frustrating
Speaker 2: for the sharbon A people because he's just set decoration
Speaker 2: out there. So I don't know, I don't know what
Speaker 2: we're doing, so we'll figure it out. Though I can
Speaker 2: say that I really haven't drafted a ton of them
Speaker 2: either way, because I'm sort of like you, Lukwan that
Speaker 2: I don't really know what's happening here, and the line
Speaker 2: is terrible too on top of that, so I generally
Speaker 2: have not drafted a ton of either guy just because
Speaker 2: of the confusion at this point. All right, there, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a look at the NFC West. Uh. Next week
Speaker 2: we will dive into the North divisions A f C
Speaker 2: and NFC North, so that should be a whole lot
Speaker 2: of fun there. The AFC North is going to be
Speaker 2: an absolute rock fight all year long with those four teams,
Speaker 2: so look forward to diving into those as well. And
Speaker 2: we're back with you tomorrow Thursday for the cheat sheet.
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