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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, July seventeenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're letting Laquon

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Speaker 2: Hacket to the introscript and the rams for the best

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Speaker 2: in the what. Okay, it's me your Maniam G. Marcus

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Speaker 2: Grand joined by Michael F. Florio and LaQuan Jones. That's

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Speaker 2: the last time I leave the Google doc on lock.

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Speaker 2: We're all in studio today.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's good man, we're all together in one place.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's been multiple months since this has happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really has got the band back together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all back together for various reasons. Floria and

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Speaker 2: I were doing some VOD stuff a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: NFL Plus if you want to watch.

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Speaker 2: It, Yes, it'll be out there at some point, hopefully

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Speaker 2: very soon. And uh, LaQuan, you're just here.

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Speaker 3: Because you're researching and doing research.

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Speaker 2: You are, Uh, you are tap. You're gonna be on

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Speaker 2: the reboot or the relaunching. I don't know what we're

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Speaker 2: calling this of Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really excited for that opportunity. Man, But you know,

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Speaker 4: be a night owl.

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Speaker 2: Now you are you are, We'll be able.

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Speaker 1: To like I'll be playing NCAA, You'll you'll be waking up,

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Speaker 1: We'll be able to text.

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Speaker 2: We will cross paths like Flora and I'll be showing

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Speaker 2: up to work. You'll be heading to bed. You know

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But no, it should be fun.

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Speaker 2: I know it restarts on July twenty ninth. A new

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Speaker 2: old face, old new face is gonna be the ak

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Speaker 2: Bar Bajaul be Amila who. If you have been following

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Speaker 2: us and been watching Fantasy Live long enough, you remember

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Speaker 2: Achbar is being a part of NFL Fantasy Live. Then

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Speaker 2: he went on to superstardom as one of the co

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Speaker 2: hosts of American Ninja Warrior, and now he's back on

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Speaker 2: NFL network.

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Speaker 1: First person ever bring me out on Fantasy Live, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember I was Akbar stat guy.

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Speaker 1: I would just run out and hand him like no,

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Speaker 1: that's right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Akbar is great. It's good. It's good to

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Speaker 2: have him back. I'm sure he will tell you about

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Speaker 2: the time in college that he sacked Tony Romo. I

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Speaker 2: think he still has the screenshot on his phone potentially,

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Speaker 2: but should be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: So July twenty ninth, I cannot wait to meet him.

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Speaker 2: Good, seriously, really honestly, legitimately one of the nicest people

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of fun and it should be a

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Speaker 2: really good addition with Jamie Rdahl and Peter Schrager and

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Speaker 2: Kyle Brandt and shree Burst who's also got to be

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Speaker 2: joining the show as well, so be sure to check

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Speaker 2: that out. So ta us. Since we're talking to the

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Speaker 2: programming schedule, that's not how I meant to start the show,

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Speaker 2: but it's sort of happened. I do know. The rumors

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Speaker 2: are NFL Fantasy Live will be back for some preseason

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Speaker 2: shows beginning August twelfth, so we're little less than a

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Speaker 2: month from that, so you can see me and Florio

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Speaker 2: and Adam Rank and Patrick Claybond and presumably Cynthia Friedland

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Speaker 2: on your television coming up really really soon, so market calendar.

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Speaker 2: August twelfth will start our preseason shows. We are still

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Speaker 2: doing our division previews. On Monday, we did the AFC West,

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Speaker 2: so here on Wednesday we will do the NFC West,

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Speaker 2: so we'll go through the four teams in the division there,

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Speaker 2: but we'll also have starting off with some news and

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Speaker 2: rumors since we were talking the NFC West, the big

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Speaker 2: news coming out of the division, mostly out of San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: Santa Clara, whatever you want to say. Brandon Ayuk has

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Speaker 2: requested a trade. Dun, dun. Yes, So obviously you see

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Speaker 2: how the quan feels about it. As the resident Rams

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Speaker 2: fans slash forty nine or hater, he is hoping, he

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Speaker 2: is praying on the forty nine ers downfall for sure.

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Speaker 2: My first comment on this because obviously I have a

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Speaker 2: we were texting about it, and I was actually driving

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Speaker 2: child often requests cupcakes. That doesn't mean he always gets cupcakes.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Yuke has requested a trade. He is obviously unhappy

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Speaker 1: Nope, I think he would be traded by now. We

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Speaker 1: like if something like this was gonna happen, I think

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Speaker 1: So I continue to think this is Brandon Ayuk being like, listen,

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Speaker 1: I can get, and yeah, like there's smoke coming from

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Speaker 1: continue to think that Brandon Nyuk is going to be

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Speaker 2: Of the forty nine erston Is there smoke coming from

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Speaker 2: You know, facetiming with his old college teammate who just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's posting like stories that he's watching their

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Speaker 1: Yo, that's crazy, that's hampering.

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Speaker 2: If I'm Washington, I am heated about that right now.

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Speaker 2: Then really he's like he's watching video of our offense

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Speaker 3: It's pretty nasty work.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think he finds a better opportunity out

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Speaker 2: That's sort of the thing is that he really has.

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Speaker 2: He's not only fits well in Kyle Shanahan's offense, he

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Speaker 2: just say, for whatever reason between now and you know,

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Speaker 1: I you, yeah, like the Bills being won, the Chargers

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Speaker 1: Like Brandon Ayuk is in San fran is one of

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Speaker 1: the most efficient wide receivers every year because like last year,

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Speaker 1: thirteen hundred almost thirteen fifty yards on one hundred and

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing I'm also curious about with Ayuk.

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Speaker 1: Like I am high on Brandon Ayuk in San fran

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Speaker 1: but I do wonder if you pull him from there

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Deebo, Samuel George Kittle, and you have to

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Speaker 1: would he be the same player on a different offense.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's a fair question. And I think

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Speaker 2: you go back to the Super Bowl when at some

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Speaker 2: You know, you go to New England where they don't

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Speaker 2: we say one hundred and five targets and thirteen hundred,

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Speaker 2: which is the anti it. We talked about v Ingram

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you just sometimes you just think things out loud. Yeah, know,

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Speaker 2: get yourself to a conclusion. It's not bullying. We're just,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're just working things. We're working things out.

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Speaker 2: This is like our own little therapy session, Mary. We're

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Speaker 2: just trying to work him stuff out. But you know,

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Speaker 2: speaking of I maybe not being there and ADPs and

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, it's time to drive your

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Speaker 2: draft presented by the all new hybrid Toyota Camry. Look,

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Speaker 2: this is obviously we are into redraft season. I should

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Speaker 2: check and make sure I am not I made a

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Speaker 2: pick this morning against Scott Fish. Uh so I am

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Speaker 2: not on the clock right now. So they're good there

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Speaker 2: I'm in like the eleventh or twelfth round. Like we're

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Speaker 2: moving along pretty well progress. But you know, obviously Uk

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Speaker 2: is the big story, and you know, real football, fantasy football,

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Speaker 2: everybody's sort of focusing on what's happening with him and

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers right now. I mean, for you, Lakwan,

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Speaker 2: as these rumors continue and as there's you know, chatter

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Speaker 2: whether or not there's any you know, fire to this smoke,

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Speaker 2: does this impact how you are drafting Brandon?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: Because you still believe in the talent, And like you said,

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Speaker 4: just because he's requesting it doesn't mean that it happens.

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Speaker 4: And I think if he kind of sits and settles

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Speaker 4: with San Francisco, we still I'll get that same production

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Speaker 4: that we got out of Brandon Nayuk. Nothing really changes

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Speaker 4: for me, Like I don't think there's going to be

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Speaker 4: a difference of me going to the draft board and

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Speaker 4: taking Brandon Anyuk off the board because I know I'm

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Speaker 4: getting a talented wide receiver. So the situation is still

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Speaker 4: going to be the same for me. And like it's

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Speaker 4: early early, like basically I mean July, but like if

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Speaker 4: a little bit worried, but I still draft him because

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Speaker 4: I know the talent is there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's sort of how it

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Speaker 2: Last year, their top fantasy scorer at quarterback was Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: And I think he's a Round one pick. I think

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Speaker 4: is at an elite level. So therefore you're looking at

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00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 4: when Kyler Murray returned back from injury. That second game

435
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 4: where he came back, Greg Dortsch led that team in targets.

436
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 4: This is with Marquise Brown, Trade McBride and James Connor, etcetera, etcetera.

437
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 4: But from Week ten and on, he led that wide

438
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 4: receiver cord in target. So obviously there's a reason why

439
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is going to be on him so heavily

440
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 4: to bail him out on third down and et cetera,

441
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 4: et cetera. Greg Dortch is a dynamic player, so even

442
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 4: in fantasy when you get in the double dipping opportunities

443
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 4: on return yards that I've been talking about for a while.

444
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 4: But you're looking at his stats last year, he had

445
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 4: the second most mistackles in return last year.

446
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 3: So he's elusive.

447
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 4: He's explosive, and you're getting this guy in the slot

448
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 4: where he makes a lot of mismatches.

449
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 2: I'm very curious to sort of watch training camp preseason

450
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 2: because obviously NHJ is the wide receiver one. They did

451
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: invest a little bit draft wise in Michael Wilson the

452
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 2: year before. I feel like that's gonna be the battle

453
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: for wide receiver two. Yeah, it's a Greg Dorsch Michael

454
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: Wilson battle. And that's when I want to keep an

455
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: eye on to kind of get a sense of who

456
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. You know, I saw the photos of

457
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 2: you know, Kyler Murray hanging out with Greg Dortch looking

458
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: at Post. I saw the post workout. Those dude's hanging

459
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: out or whatever, like he's a beast man waiting the feast.

460
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting, just waiting to see. We get reports

461
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 2: of you know, Greg dort showing up with with Krispy

462
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: Kreme at the go let's get it, him and Kyler

463
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 2: having a big muffins. I should they would probably be

464
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: playing like they'd be playing NCAA football together. Yeah. If

465
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: they're like twitch streaming together, then you know it's real.

466
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: At that point, Florio does Trey Benson have standalone value

467
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: or will it take James Connor getting hurt for him

468
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: to get on the field.

469
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take James Connor getting hurt. I

470
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: think Trey Benson will have a role while James Connor

471
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Speaker 1: is healthy. I just don't know if it is a

472
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: large enough role to trust starting in fantasy, and I

473
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: think he could be one of those players where like

474
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 1: one week he gets like twelve touches and we're like,

475
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: all right, you can trust this guy. Now he's getting

476
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: enough work behind James Connor, and then the next week

477
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: he'll get like six because the Cardinals were kind of

478
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: like that last year with their RB two with change

479
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: based on the matchup and stuff like that. But while

480
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Speaker 1: James Connor is healthy, I think he'll play sixty plus

481
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps and have a very strong stranglehold

482
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Speaker 1: on the touches on the ground, especially near the goal line.

483
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Speaker 1: So I think he's one of the top handcuffs. I'm

484
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Speaker 1: just not sure he's gonna have a role unless kind

485
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: of gets hurt.

486
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Speaker 2: I have kind of come around to that. I think

487
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 2: early on I thought maybe he would carve out a

488
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: role in this offense. I think it's I'm with you.

489
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be sort of minimal. Everything that

490
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: you're hearing out of Arizona suggests this is this is

491
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: James Connor's it's still his job, and that you know,

492
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: they will sort of sprinkle in Trey Benson. But I

493
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 2: think it's going to be when Connor gets hurt that

494
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: that you see mostly Benton. That being said, I still

495
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 2: would take a late shot on Trey Benson in draft,

496
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: depending on depending on how deep your redraft league. It's

497
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: certainly in best Ball. I'm definitely taking the shot, depending

498
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: on how deep your your redraft league is. In the situation,

499
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: it might be worth it because he could be one

500
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: of those guys that later in the year does have

501
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Speaker 2: an impact on this team.

502
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Speaker 1: You hear a lot like, oh, it's don't take your

503
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: own handcuffs, it takes other people's handcuffs, and I genuinely

504
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: agree with that, But like a situation like this, if

505
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: I have James Connor, I want.

506
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: To cover I want to cover my basis because Connor

507
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: has never He's only played fifteen games in a season once, right,

508
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: So like that feels like that really is buying an

509
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: insurance policy after this is getting trained.

510
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 4: You're buying a good insurance policy because you know Trade

511
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: Benson can play. This is one of the top running

512
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 4: back prospects this year.

513
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: Exact reason, exactly, so for sure, I make sure to

514
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: do that. Moving over to the Los Angeles Rams their

515
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: top scores this past year, Matthew Stafford was their top

516
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: QB No surprise there, two hundred and sixty five point

517
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: seven points QB fifteen. Kyrien Williams had a phenomenal season

518
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: last year. RB seven two hundred and fifty five points

519
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: for him. Phuka Aakua who just blew everyone away a

520
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: wide receiver for just shy of three hundred fantasy points

521
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: for him. Tight End not so great. Tyler higives a

522
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: tight end twenty three, one hundred and eight and a

523
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: half points for him. He losses. You have to lose

524
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald. That doesn't really affect our fantasy drafting. I

525
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: said text, I see you're sad. Yeah, I see the

526
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: sad face you put here in the show sheets. Uh

527
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 2: I got Aaron Donald being, you know, retiring. Which side note,

528
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: I've been fortun to pick up a little side hustle

529
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: doing some some radio here in Los Angeles, and one

530
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: of the hosts at the station I do some work at.

531
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Speaker 2: He has no proof, he has no facts or anything

532
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: to back it up, but he believes in his heart

533
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: that Aaron Donald's gonna come back and play football.

534
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: Man, don't tell me that.

535
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: Don't tell me. Yeah, he's like, he's like, I don't

536
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: have any information, no inside information. He's like, I just

537
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: think that he's not done, that he still has some

538
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: good football left, and that maybe after a year or

539
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: so out, he'll he'll decide that he wants to come back.

540
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Speaker 1: In a year or so out.

541
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, don't do that, don't get I'm sure.

542
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll know. He's like a year to be

543
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna be retired and like and jah, you know,

544
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: and just like relax or whatever. And then maybe after

545
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: a year he's like, wait a minute, I still miss

546
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: it again. There's no facts behind it. It's just it's

547
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: all vibes. It's all I.

548
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: Was gonna say, Man, he's getting up there, he's thirty three,

549
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: and then I realized we are two months apart in age.

550
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: I won't say that, honestly. That's why I kept cheering

551
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: for Tom Brady to stick around, because like he's you know,

552
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: he was like, he's three months younger than me. I'm like, dude,

553
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: keep doing your thing, dog like doing, keep going, Doug.

554
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: Some of the additions they do add a guard to

555
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: help on the offensive line, Johan Jackson, and they add

556
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, who I just lamented about overthrowing Emmanuel Sanders.

557
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: So good luck with that first off the board. No surprise,

558
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: they're pooking Akua after his phenomenal rookie season right around

559
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: pick ten or so. All right, so I'm going to

560
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: ask you this, Lakwana, as the resident Rams fan here,

561
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 2: the future of Kiraene Williams, right, because he was amazing

562
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: last year. I don't think anybody expected him to do

563
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: what he did, the fact that that they loved him

564
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: so much they shifted cam Akers off to Minnesota, but

565
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: they also went out and drafted Blake Korum this year.

566
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: What does the future look like for Kien Williams for

567
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: those who maybe are holding him or maybe considering adding

568
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: him in Dynasty.

569
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Speaker 3: Well, we know how great the talent is. We know

570
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: he can ball.

571
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: We saw last year, we saw the numbers, which is great.

572
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 4: He's a free agent in twenty twenty five. They drafted

573
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: Blake Korm and you're looking at the injury history starting

574
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: to pile love and from a business side, can you

575
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 4: honestly think the Rams are going to invest as high

576
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 4: as they invested into a Todd Gurley at or etc.

577
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 4: I really don't see it happening because Blake Korm is

578
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: a talented running back as a backup that can probably

579
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: leap him at any point if Kyra Williams is off

580
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: the field with injury. So you're looking at some of

581
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: the qualities that Blake Korn brings. You know, he's great

582
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: in the red zone, the lateral speed, he's quick, shifty.

583
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: This dude is the guy that you want to have

584
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: in open space. You can get a little bit more

585
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 4: pop out of him. Also in screen passes as well.

586
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: But I feel like Kyri Williams has to prove that

587
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: he can sustain a full workload as a RB one.

588
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: So in Dynasty right now, I hate to say it

589
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: is as a RAMS fan, but I'm looking to sell

590
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: as quick as possible, being that this year might be

591
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: the year, the only year you can get this high

592
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 4: price in return for him.

593
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: I just keep holding on to the fact that traditionally,

594
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: you know in the post Todd Gurley era, Sean McVay

595
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: has been reluctant to just consistently lean on one guy.

596
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: And the fact that when it comes to draft capital,

597
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: they have slightly more invested in Blake Korum yea than

598
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: they do in Kyron Williams. Now, I don't think that

599
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: that means they're just gonna send me punt Kyron away

600
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: this year, like after what he did last year. He's

601
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: still going to be the RB one and he's still

602
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: going to get a lot of work. But I wouldn't

603
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: be surprised if you see Korum chop into that a

604
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: little bit. And I guess I'll Florida'll ask you the

605
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 2: same question I asked you about Trey Benson. I mean,

606
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: does Blake Coorm potentially have a standalone value in this

607
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: offense or is he strictly the understudy to Kien Williams.

608
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: I think he'll have a role. I think I feel

609
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: kind of similar to Trey Benson, though I'm not sure

610
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: if it'll be large enough where you could start Blake

611
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: Korum in fantasy if Kien Williams is healthy. I know

612
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: we keep saying it like they has since Gurley has

613
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: not had one running back that he trusts. I'm not

614
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: sure though, if that is McVeigh changing or if that's

615
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: more about cam Akers and the fact that he just

616
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: flat out couldn't trust one running back for the last

617
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: couple of years. He did, They really did, and there

618
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: were stretches where McVeigh was like, all right, you're getting

619
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: twenty five touches this game and we're not using another

620
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: running back. He used Darryl Henderson like that for a

621
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: bit last year. So I think they probably want to

622
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: use Korum enough to keep Kyen fresh and keep him

623
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: on the field. But I don't think that this is

624
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: gonna be anywhere close to a fifty to fifty split.

625
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Like I do believe Kien Williams is still the guy.

626
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I agree with lq's point though, like if you could

627
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: sell him now and get a boatload in Dynasty, do it.

628
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: But for redraft that where he's going in the third round,

629
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: I find myself a lot more likely to draft him

630
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: than I thought I would be when I expected him

631
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: to be a borderline first or second round pick.

632
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what to think. Again, He's another

633
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: one that in Best Ball I'm definitely taking shots at.

634
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what I do in re draft leagues.

635
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: And I said this before, like I want to wait

636
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: for preseason, but we know that, you know, Chemmy Vay

637
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: doesn't play his dudes playing them, So like we're gonna

638
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna learn absolutely nothing.

639
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: Week one is when you learn everything anything.

640
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: From the preseason about what the Rams are gonna do

641
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: uh with their offense at all? I mean, Florida. Ill'll

642
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: stick with you here though, Like Pooka Naku obviously was

643
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: a phenomenon last year for everybody who drafted him late,

644
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: you know, but there are a lot of people who

645
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: liked him, not enough to like plant a super flag,

646
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: but like, you know, like enough to draft him late. Right,

647
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: Like I took him late in a couple of drafts.

648
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, man, let's see what happens if

649
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: this kid, maybe you know, gets on the field a

650
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, turned out he was a top five

651
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: fantasy right. So now we're drafting him late first round?

652
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: Are we drafting him at his ceiling? And I guess

653
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 2: the corresponding question to that is does this mean we're

654
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: underdrafting or forgetting about Cooper Cup I.

655
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: Think yes to both of those. But just because we're

656
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: potentially drafting Pook around his ceiling doesn't mean he's a

657
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: bad pick. Like if you could get him there late

658
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: first and you know I'm gonna get I don't know.

659
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm not banking on the fifteen hundred yards we got

660
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: last year. I would take him expecting twelve to thirteen,

661
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: and if he gave me that, I'm satisfied. But I

662
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: do look at what he did after Cooper Cup return

663
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: last year. Throw out the first month where he was

664
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: getting fifteen and twenty targets. The first two games of

665
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: the season, he was on pace for just under thirteen

666
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: hundred yards and eighty six catches, which is twenty less

667
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 1: catches and two hundred less yards, and he ended up

668
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: actually finishing with But that also, I think what gets

669
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: overlooked when you compare these two numbers A lot people

670
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: often throw out the first month, but then they leave

671
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: the part of the season in where Cooper Cup sustained

672
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: a high ankle spring played twenty seven percent of the

673
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: snaps one game. The next two weeks he played, but

674
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: he came out and flat out said like I was

675
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: not healthy, Like he played the decoy role. So I

676
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: throw those three games out as well, and then when

677
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: you look at the game for Pooka, there was a

678
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: lot of huge games where he'd put up like one

679
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty plus yards, but then there's a lot

680
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: of games where he's sitting in the like twenty seven, fifty,

681
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: forty one, thirty two. So, like, I think his range

682
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: of outcomes week to week is very wide.

683
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think we are drafting him at

684
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: his ceiling. I think the counterpoints that is his ceiling

685
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: apparently is very high. Yeah, so that's that's sort of

686
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: the good news with that part. I think with Cooper cup,

687
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: I think we're starting to just bake in our concerns

688
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: about a guy who, while he has been very good,

689
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: first off, it's wild to think. You look, he's only

690
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: had two thousand yard seasons in his career, which is

691
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: sort of mind. He's only had two seasons with double digits,

692
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: only had two seasons with more than six touchdowns. It

693
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: just feels like he's put it out the string of

694
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: phenomenal years which he's been very good. Like, I'm not

695
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: gonna take that away from he's had a lot of

696
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: very good years, but he's also, you know, kind of

697
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: been beat up the last couple of years exactly, you know,

698
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: and I think I think, at you guy who just

699
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: turned thirty one, who's had a growing list of injuries.

700
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: I think that's sort of where you're seeing the ADP

701
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: kind of come down on him a little bit, and correspondingly,

702
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: that means, well, if if the ball is not going

703
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: to be going to Cooper Cup, it's got to be

704
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: going somewhere, and that is why we're seeing Pooka and

705
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: Nakua get drafted where he is. Yeah, I agree.

706
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like my roster builds and redraft

707
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: this year, Pooka is not a bad pick in the

708
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 4: first round. I don't want to get out of the

709
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: habit saying it's a bad pick, but I feel like

710
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: we're drafting him and his ADP is banking on Cooper

711
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: Cup getting hurt because when Cooper Cup was banged up,

712
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 4: he still was able to be Cooper Cup at times,

713
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: Like if you look at last year, he still has

714
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: the ability to get behind the defenders. I mean three

715
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: point three separation target rate last year when targeted at

716
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: twenty plus yards. So he still has the big playability

717
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: in him and he's a guy that he's going to

718
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: be Matthew Stafford's number one target when it comes to

719
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: crunch time. That's where I'm banking on this year. He's healthy,

720
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: so I think we're overlooking him to where I feel

721
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: like my roster builds when I go wide receiver or

722
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: wherever I do in the first couple of rounds, and

723
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: then I can get Cooper Cup as my wide receiver

724
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 4: two or three. My team just feels a lot more

725
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 4: better just having a guy that I know is the

726
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: guy went healthy.

727
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: And to the injury point, I'm someone I think the

728
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: injury prone gets way over hyped and everything, like if

729
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: he had a severe injury where he needed surgery or

730
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: something like that, sure, or if it was the same

731
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: injury over and over again. Two years ago he suffered

732
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain and the RAMS were awful and

733
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: they were like, listen, we're just shutting him down. And

734
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: then last year I think the hamstring string in preseason

735
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: derailed his entire season. So I do think there's a

736
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: there's a chance to be like where Cooper Cup. Maybe

737
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: not what he was like the greatest receiver year ever,

738
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: but I do think he could be a lot better

739
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: than what we've seen last year. Because remember two years ago,

740
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: he was on pace to match what.

741
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: He did in that.

742
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: That's crazy season Player of the Year. So I I

743
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: still I think the injuries get a little over hyped

744
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: when it comes to Cooper Cup.

745
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: Side note, Is there any other receiver where we say

746
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: his whole name every time we talk about him? No one,

747
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: we know, we're just saying Cup. We're always Cooper.

748
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: Yes, the Cup?

749
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeh?

750
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: I mean, just because it rolls off the tongue it

751
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: sounds fun. Is probably another one.

752
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: Talk bad about him? He's right here.

753
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: It's not an insult. It's brillly an observation, that's all.

754
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: Is kind of getting that way too, because we just

755
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: sort of, I guess we say Pooka. We just say Pooka,

756
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: but it's like share but Cooper Cup, like we just

757
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: we say the whole you know, it's like a Tripaul quest,

758
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: you say the whole thing.

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766
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Speaker 2: quant a chance to hate on the forty nine ers.

767
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: I we'll talk about the Sea Huts as well. Stick

768
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 2: around for more at the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Now's

769
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: a part of the show where Lakwan Jones gets to

770
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 2: be a hater. We're talking about San Francisco forty nine ers.

771
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: Last year, brock Perty was the QB seven despite all

772
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: the haters. The haters will say it was faked, but

773
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: he had three hundred and fifty six points seven Fantasy points.

774
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: Was QB seven. No surprise that Christian McCaffrey was the

775
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: RB one, because that's what Christian McCaffrey does, just goes

776
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: out and scores a whole lot of fantasy points. And

777
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here for the lovererbustings. I didn't put it

778
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: in the sheet. Three hundred and ninety one point three

779
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: points four Christian McCaffrey. Brandon Ayuk, the apparently disgruntled at

780
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk was your wide receiver fourteen two hundred and

781
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: forty nine points for him and George Kittle, even in

782
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 2: a quote unquote down year, was the tight end five

783
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: with just over two hundred and three fantasy points. Key losses. Well,

784
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: at the moment, we're still sort of waiting. We'll see

785
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 2: Brandon I is there or not. But for the moment,

786
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: everything is pretty much intact with this offense. They did

787
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: go out and draft Ricky Pearsall. They signed Josh Dobbs

788
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: in free agency first off the board, no surprise. It

789
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: is the aforementioned CMC high first round usually pick one

790
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: point three somewhere in there, depending or I'd rather I

791
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: should say he's averaging the one point three, so he

792
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: might be first, he might be second, depends on how

793
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: your league shakes out. Heyo, Ricky Pearsall. We mentioned he

794
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: was drafted. He was put on the non football injury

795
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: list to start training camp. But there's been a lot

796
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: of talk that whenever the Niners sort of break up

797
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: the fellowship of the Ring and whether it's Ayuk or

798
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel or whomever, that that really is gonna be

799
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: Rickey Pearsoon's time to shine. But you know, with the

800
00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: rumors swirling about Brandon Ayuk wanting out, is it worth

801
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: throwing a dart at Ricky Pearsol late in a draft

802
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: just in case? Uh?

803
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. Like I've been targeting him in

804
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: my best ball drafts. If you're doing redraft right now, yeah,

805
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: I think so, because if look, if we're talking now

806
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: late August and Ayuk is still on the team, then

807
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: in redraft, where rosters are a lot shallower, I'll probably

808
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: go in a different direction. But I do like Pearsall.

809
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: I liked him as a prospect. I said he kind

810
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: of reminded me of Adam Thielen in the sense that

811
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: he could play in the slot and out wide and

812
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: good hands, good route runner, just a piece that at

813
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan will have an absolute field day with

814
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: I think. And that's the thing, like, even if Ayuk

815
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: and Deebo were there right now, injuries happen, so like

816
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: in best ball and stuff, I want this guy because

817
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: I trust Shanahan and the forty nine ers system that

818
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: even if they have to throw in a backup, they'll

819
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: get the most out of him.

820
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: I think he definitely fits in the offense right he is.

821
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: He is a Shanahan guy in the sense if he

822
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: can run routes, he can get open uh, they can

823
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: find ways to get him the football. I think he

824
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: probably maybe pushes out Juwan Jennings a little bit because

825
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: last year, there was a third in Juwan was a

826
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: real thing for this offense, but it wasn't enough to

827
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: bank your fantasy hopes on right, Like he was a

828
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: guy who was really key. He had a lot of

829
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: big catches for that offense and and helped move the

830
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: chains in big situation. We saw it in the playoffs

831
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: he did that. There's a point in the super Bowl

832
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: where he looked like he was going to be the MVP,

833
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 2: Like early on in the Super Bowls like, well, Juwan

834
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: Jennings actually be super Bowl Like, no, it's gonna be

835
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, but it looked like it was gonna be.

836
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: I think Ricky Piersall eventually sorts starts to play that role.

837
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: I think in deep leagues he's worth that dart throw late.

838
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: He's definitely worth it in in bestball leagues, Yeah, Redrafty,

839
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: keep an eye on him, keep an eye on the

840
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: iu CA news there all right, if we're I was

841
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: in here playing hypotheticals though, lakwan uh. If there is

842
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: no Brandon, I does that put a big dent into

843
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: rock parties potential?

844
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 4: Probably not a big dent, but it will be a

845
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: noticeable dent. I mean, you're looking at Ayuk as one

846
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 4: of his most reliable targets out there when it comes

847
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 4: to hands, route running, understanding where to be in the offense.

848
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: And you look at Ayuk as this alpha and then

849
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: you remove him, it's kind of like, all right, who's

850
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: going to step up to be that next reliable target.

851
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 4: I think he will be fine for most cases in

852
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: real life football, and for fantasy he should. He should

853
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 4: take a dip down with Ayuk gone, because I really

854
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, Deebo will have to step up.

855
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 4: He'd probably get more involved in not saying anything knocking

856
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: towards him. But this could be a good thing for

857
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: George Kittle because that was his second best option when

858
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 4: targeting him last season when it came to completion percentage.

859
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: So I don't think it will be a huge dent

860
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: to brock perty, but you're just hoping that Ricky Piersoll

861
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 4: kind of steps up into that role when he's ready

862
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 4: to go to step up as another weapon because we

863
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: saw the catch radius is insane or pretty ricky. I

864
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 4: call him move his rout runner out of the class.

865
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 4: I would say, it's just like this dude can really

866
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 4: do anything playing outside playing the slot. You look at

867
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: his highlights, you're like, man, this is a Kyle Shanahan

868
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 4: guy to where he's going to deploy him and get

869
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: the best out of him.

870
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 3: So I really feel like rock Party is still sitting

871
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 3: pretty where he's at.

872
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: It's funny because Party is a guy that you know,

873
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: he gets drafted outside the top probably top twelve quarterbacks

874
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: in a last situations. I was finding it harder as

875
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: Best Ball season went on to be able to get

876
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: Party though, Like I felt like people were I don't

877
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: know if people were like seeing me try to like

878
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: quietly put together a stack and you know, people love

879
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: to just be jerks and like and snipe me and

880
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: like what did I do to you? Like I don't

881
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: even know you, you know, Cowboys fan thirty seven, Like

882
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: what are you doing? But I didn't know. I think

883
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: people sort of understand that, you know, no matter how

884
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: you feel about him, the dude's putting up numbers. He is,

885
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: and I think that, you know, some of it is

886
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: some of it is the offense that he is in

887
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: for sure. It was just that, like the guy makes plays.

888
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we said that about golf too, Like they're kind

889
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 4: of similar, you know, like they're just guys that go

890
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: out there and do their job and execute.

891
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't really knock that.

892
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: I just I said this last year on the show,

893
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: like it felt like the biggest knock on brock Purty

894
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: was like, well he doesn't do what Patrick Mahomes does,

895
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: and they're like, well.

896
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, cross wires, because they're always like, well, he's like

897
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: the eighth most important player on that offense. And I

898
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: don't disagree with that, Like I think the weapons and

899
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan are all more important than brock Purty is.

900
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: But for fantasy, I don't care. I get all of

901
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: those points the same from brock Purty.

902
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: So can he execute?

903
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: That's all I care. He's you know, he's the guy who,

904
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 2: like you know, he plays within the structure of the offense,

905
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: and every once in a while he will actually go

906
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: out and do something. They're like, that's all you need,

907
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: that's all you need.

908
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: I do think losing Nyuk would be a huge dent

909
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: to his value because last year was about fifty percent

910
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: of all the production that came touchdowns, catches, yards and

911
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: came on deep balls. We're all to Brandon Nayuk. So

912
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: I think that you lose that aspect of the offense.

913
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: Now you can't load it like maybe you could load

914
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: up more near closer to the line of scrimmage and

915
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: make life a little tougher.

916
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel a guy that does a lot of great

917
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: things for the forty nine ers. He's one that I

918
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: feel like is more valuable in real football than he

919
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: is in fantasy football. And I'm looking here at what

920
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 2: his ADP is right now, being drafted as the wide

921
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: receiver sixteen, just after Jalen Waddle, just ahead of Mike Evans.

922
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: Is he being overdrafted Lukwan, I.

923
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: Don't think so, man.

924
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: I honestly think with his IUQ news, people are going

925
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: to be thankful to get Debo because they're hoping for

926
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: him to return back to form of being the guy

927
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: that can get the rushing attend screen, a little bit

928
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: more explosive, a little bit more reckless with his body,

929
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: because that's really when he was, like at his peak.

930
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 2: Of just performance, but when he was deboing people.

931
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, when he was people.

932
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: But he got the bag, so now he's good.

933
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: But I feel like.

934
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: Debo he's still one of those assets you got to

935
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 4: be thankful to have on your rosters. Really, no matter

936
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: where you get him. I mean we're not getting him

937
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 4: in the first two rounds, but that third round, Like

938
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 4: if you're looking for a wide receiver two or three,

939
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 4: if you're being as wide receiver heavy as I am

940
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 4: in most of my building redraft, I think you're still

941
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: in a great spot sitting pretty I.

942
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: Just think the week to week variants can be wide

943
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: it can be with him.

944
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.

945
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: Argue year to year as well, because he was two

946
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: Three years ago he was a top three wide receiver

947
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: and total points in points per game. Then two years

948
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: ago he was wide receiver twenty eight points per game,

949
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: and then last year was wide receiver twelve. It's touchdown,

950
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: but like he was the only player in the NFL

951
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: last year with five receiving and five rushing touchdowns. If

952
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: he loses a couple of those touchdowns, I feel like

953
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: he's probably a little bit closer to being top twenty,

954
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: maybe even a little.

955
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: Bit outside of that. Yeah, I just I mean, he's

956
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: a really good play and he does a lot of

957
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: really good things for the forty nine ers. I just

958
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like, one maybe we're still holding

959
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: onto that season from two years ago, when like that's

960
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: his career year he did. He did everything, but that

961
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: was also out of necessity because they had so many

962
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: injuries that he was he he caught the ball, he

963
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: ran the ball. I think he even threw a touchdown,

964
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, somewhere late in the season.

965
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: With Wolverine that year, they basically would have to pull

966
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: him off the turf and we'd be like, all right,

967
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: de Bo's done for the days later.

968
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: He's back out there doing amazing. What happens when you

969
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: back chasing, So.

970
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: There you go, hey man, whatever works. I just, you know,

971
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: I feel like he's a guy that we are. We

972
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: looked at what he does in totality, but it doesn't

973
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: necessarily always translate to fantasy. And I feel like, you know,

974
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: I've been drafting Ayuk over Debo for the most part.

975
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have you should I have them decent. I

976
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: have Ayuk I think at ten or eleven in my rankings,

977
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: and Deebo is closer to twenty.

978
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: See at least right now where he's going, Like, they're

979
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: not that far apart, right I think right now, i

980
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: Uk is wide receiver fourteen, Deebo's wide receiver sixteen. I

981
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: feel like there's a bigger gap.

982
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: That gap should be.

983
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a bigger gap there between the

984
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: two of them. Sure. Our last team in the NFC

985
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: West is the Seattle Seahawks. Gino Smith was their top

986
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: quarterback QB nineteen couldn't quite follow up his career season

987
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: from the year before, two hundred and twenty nine point

988
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: three points for him. Kenneth Walker the RB nineteen, just

989
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: shy of two hundred fantasy points there. DK Metcalf the

990
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty one, two hundred and twenty five point

991
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: four points. No offense, their top tight end tight end

992
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: thirty one seventy three point four points, no real notable

993
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: losses in the offseason. In the they did add Sam

994
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Howell through free agency. They also added an offensive lineman,

995
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: center Nick Harris, from the Cleveland Browns. Dk Metcalf first

996
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: Sea Hawks being drafted right now, twenty six point nine

997
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: fantasy points for him. Change it. Offensive coordinate Ryan Grubb

998
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: comes in. Mike McDonald is the new head coach after

999
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll steps down. Ryan Grubb led the offense at

1000
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: the University of Washington. I mean, look, Florio. People were

1001
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 2: excited about Michael PENNOCKX. They were excited about Romo Doonzay.

1002
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: They had pieces there, the Huskies could score points. Will

1003
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: this be more of a vertical offense? Now? With those

1004
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: guys running the show, that's the hope.

1005
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: Like Grubb was able to do a really good job.

1006
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: Oh Junez was the star of the show. But they

1007
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: had three viable wide receivers in Washington and Penix put

1008
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: up huge numbers. They were last year eighth highest pass

1009
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: percentage of Power five schools, but the Seahawks last season

1010
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: already threw at the seventh highest rate in the league.

1011
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: That was a little bit more of a necessity trailing

1012
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: a lot having to throw. But front of the show

1013
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: a little bit like Scott Engel. You guys know, I

1014
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: do a radio show with him on the side, and

1015
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about Seattle. Trust me, when with

1016
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: Scott you're calling Seattle. He is a Patriots fan, Seattle.

1017
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: He's like, that's the whole gig, right, Yeah, pretty much.

1018
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, Like I have a tough time buying into

1019
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: this Seahawks offense becoming one of the better passing attacks

1020
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: because it's still a defensive minded head coach who came

1021
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: from Baltimore's system, which has always been ground and pound

1022
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and then yes, I understand you

1023
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: have this new young oc real lot of sus sex

1024
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: in college, but he's never done it at the NFL level.

1025
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: And then your quarterback is still Geno Smith. Like, no

1026
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: disrespect to Gino, but he had one good year in

1027
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: his NFL career and it was largely propped up by

1028
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: a high touchdown rate. So I think, like I still

1029
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: view DK as kind of like like a wide receiver too,

1030
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: who can have some big weeks but will also just

1031
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: be kind of up and down all year. And I

1032
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: don't know, do you guys disagree. Am I too low

1033
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: on this offense or I don't know.

1034
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: I think we're kind of too low on it, And

1035
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 4: just expectations wise of Grub I think him coming in

1036
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 4: and turning that program around rather quickly wash it and

1037
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 4: it is pretty impressive. I mean, what we honestly could

1038
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 4: expect from this offense honestly is like a lot of

1039
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: quick passes, a lot of deep shots. Because Pennix led

1040
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: to the FBS last year with the most passes of

1041
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: a twenty plus yard so I'm thinking those big shots

1042
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: could really benefit DK. If we're thinking about those big,

1043
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: big weeks, I think it'll be more frequent. And even

1044
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: looking at Gino as a passer downfield, he's third in

1045
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: completion percentage in these last two seasons on passes of

1046
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: twenty plus yards. So I think if you're going to

1047
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 4: open this offense up as a more vertical offense to

1048
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 4: be more aggressive going downfield, Jasn's one of those benefactors

1049
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 4: there too as well.

1050
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my question to you, right, because

1051
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: you know Jackson Smith and Jigba last year it was

1052
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: a disappointing season, But I think when you step back

1053
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: and look at it, it was less about the player

1054
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: and more about the scheme and the system. Right. They

1055
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: used him as a short option, you know, Like I know,

1056
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: he was kind of banged up at the start of

1057
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: the year. A lot of the routes he was running

1058
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: were pretty much close to the line of scrimmage. It

1059
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: wasn't a big average depth of target. Does this mean

1060
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: we can expect more downfield throws for JSN? And as

1061
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: much as it hurts my heart to say this, because

1062
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: I am a bona fide Tyler Lockett, Stan does does

1063
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and jig but push Tyler Lockett aside as

1064
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: the wide receiver too.

1065
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: I think it could happen.

1066
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 4: And I say this only because Tyler Locke that has

1067
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: been close to my heart too, is one of those

1068
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: guys that we've been drafting is undervalue guys. But I

1069
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: think this is the year, you know, where JSN breaks out,

1070
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 4: being utilized more to where his skill set is. Those

1071
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 4: couple of deep shots last year, a couple of touchdowns

1072
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: he had where he's lined up about wide and he's

1073
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 4: taking a deep shot and he's taken it to the house.

1074
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 4: He has home run and building and I think some

1075
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: of those plays, you know, with him close to the

1076
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 4: scrimmage doesn't get taken away completely because the dude has

1077
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: yaking him. So if you're going to have this vertical offense,

1078
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: I think we might see JSN more utilized downfield, where

1079
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 4: I think he could really excel. So I'm banking that

1080
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 4: this is going to be the breakout season. I mean,

1081
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 4: even if Jason finishes outside the top thirty, to me,

1082
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 4: that's a breakout season and that's a huge win in

1083
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 4: my book, especially where he's going and drafts.

1084
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: He's the one that I want most.

1085
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: Of this receiving call. Yeah, Yeah, He's the guy that

1086
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: I'm I'm really optimistic about him this year.

1087
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: I think Lockett, it look it pains me to say

1088
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: we you as well, La Calon, but we've been talking

1089
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: him up for years as like a guy we like

1090
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: a lot, and I think he's just last year was

1091
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of the end, like he look at every

1092
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: metric of his and it was career worse or worse

1093
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: in the next stats era pretty much. And then I

1094
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: think the plan from day one was Jaysen, You're gonna

1095
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: learn year one under these two guys, and then year

1096
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: two is when you're going to take over. And I

1097
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: think we get that maybe the first month of the season.

1098
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: It's a little bit slow, as there's an adjustment period,

1099
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: but I think Jaysn is gonna firmly be this team's.

1100
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: Wide receiver team. Yeah. No, I mean I think that

1101
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: is sort of what's coming. I would not be surprised

1102
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: at all. And I do think this is gonna be

1103
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: more of an attacking downfield offense. So we'll say, but

1104
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you, guys. I think this is

1105
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 2: sort of the last hurrah for Tyler Lockett. It's even

1106
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: as slightly viable.

1107
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: He's like the number one in the Seattle area I believe.

1108
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: So he's doing all right? Is he really? He is

1109
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: a real estate agent on the side, and I think

1110
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: he like sells houses to his teammates.

1111
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1112
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Like it is a legit. Like DK was

1113
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: like he's at practice world studying the playbook. This dude's

1114
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: reading up about housing and stuff like that.

1115
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: That's kind of dope. Actually yeah, I actually I love that.

1116
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: I respect the hell out of that. That's pretty dope.

1117
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: Not gonna lie last thing here. Uh the backfield situation.

1118
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker is the RB one, but Zach Sharbonay is

1119
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: still hanging around there. Uh. I mean, lakwan, how do

1120
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: you expect this thing to shake out in the backfield?

1121
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: Man?

1122
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 4: I was trying to do my rankings the other week, man,

1123
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 4: and like, I don't know where to put Kenneth Walker, Like,

1124
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 4: are we expecting just like another like mid tierish RB

1125
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: two season from him? I mean, Zach Sharbony is going

1126
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 4: to be involved. I mean, that's honestly what we can expect.

1127
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 4: Last season, this dude was getting on the field more

1128
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 4: times than we actually wanted to see. Zach Charbonay and

1129
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 4: I know coming out of college he was like six

1130
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 4: point six yards per carry, like efficient runner, and like

1131
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 4: you kind of don't want that behind Kenneth Walker.

1132
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm really not too sure what to expect.

1133
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 3: Out of him.

1134
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 4: So how I treat things, I just avoid the headache

1135
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 4: if I don't know it, and I can't really break

1136
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 4: down in my head a decision like I honestly don't

1137
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 4: want any parts of this backfield same flora.

1138
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more likely to especially Sharboney, where

1139
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: he's going is so late in drafts that I'm like,

1140
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: all right, I'll when I'm looking for backup running backs,

1141
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm fine throwing a shot on him. But one thing

1142
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: you hear a lot is like, well, in the second

1143
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: half of the year, Charboney really ate into Kendieth Walker's workload.

1144
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: And it's like in snaps only from week eight on

1145
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: when they both played, it was fifty one to forty

1146
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: nine percent snaps, but one hundred and six carries for

1147
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: Walker to thirty seven for sharbon Ay and twenty targets

1148
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: to nineteen. And the Charbonnay people might hold your hat

1149
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: on that he was supposed to be the pass catching back.

1150
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: So the fact that Walker had more targets to me

1151
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: is a little concerning, and Walker is still so explosive

1152
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: that I don't love him at costs, but I'm always

1153
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: tempted to take him.

1154
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: I just I did like sharbon A coming out of college,

1155
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: and then I would watch him in the NFL and

1156
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 2: he just he looked slow. Yeah, he looked like a plotter.

1157
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't remember. I don't remember this

1158
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: version of him at UCLA. But yeah, you're right. I mean,

1159
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: the snaps went up significantly over the back half of

1160
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: the season, but if it doesn't equate the touches, then

1161
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: you know, what are we doing here? Yeah? Headache, it

1162
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: is It's just it's it's no good for anybody, right,

1163
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: It's it's it's frustrating for the Kenneth Walker people because

1164
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: your guy isn't on the field as much. It's frustrating

1165
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: for the sharbon A people because he's just set decoration

1166
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: out there. So I don't know, I don't know what

1167
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: we're doing, so we'll figure it out. Though I can

1168
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: say that I really haven't drafted a ton of them

1169
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: either way, because I'm sort of like you, Lukwan that

1170
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: I don't really know what's happening here, and the line

1171
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: is terrible too on top of that, so I generally

1172
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: have not drafted a ton of either guy just because

1173
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: of the confusion at this point. All right, there, you know,

1174
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: there's a look at the NFC West. Uh. Next week

1175
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: we will dive into the North divisions A f C

1176
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 2: and NFC North, so that should be a whole lot

1177
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: of fun there. The AFC North is going to be

1178
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: an absolute rock fight all year long with those four teams,

1179
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 2: so look forward to diving into those as well. And

1180
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: we're back with you tomorrow Thursday for the cheat sheet.

1181
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 2: Gladiata is a film on task to watch it, Yeah,

1182
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: watch it man Decimus Maximus Maximus, Decimus Meridius and his

1183
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 2: adventures in Ancient Rome should be a whole lot of fun.

1184
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: So we will jump on with the cheat sheet. Will

1185
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: be with you live streaming on YouTube as always, but

1186
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: in meantime, that will do it for this edition of

1187
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy,

1188
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: do good and live well. We see you on the

1189
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: interwebs on Thursday. We'll talk to you on the pod

1190
00:55:47,080 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 2: next week. I'll count Pilt, I'll tell Pilt.

1191
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: Log h