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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noel.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff

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Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Uh, guys, I gotta

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Speaker 3: tell you. For everybody tuning in the evening, this strange

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Speaker 3: news program publishes. It is August eleventh, a date of

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Speaker 3: weirdly personal importance to us.

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Speaker 2: So we're recording it on the sixth.

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Speaker 3: We're recording on the sixth, it's publishing on the eleventh,

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Speaker 3: by which point several of us will be on the road.

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Speaker 3: Just real quick, some important things that happened on August eleventh.

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Speaker 3: This is so dumb. I never know if this is

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Speaker 3: gonna work. Of course, everybody remembers this is the beginning

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Speaker 3: of the Mesoamerican Long count calendar. Never forget, Never forget.

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Speaker 3: That led to the belief that what was it that

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Speaker 3: the world was going to end in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: Twelve, twenty one, twenty twelve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, spoiler, it either did not happen or

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Speaker 3: the world dead end and we're all just sort of

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan performed that night in Atlanta, and that is

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Speaker 2: when the world changed.

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Speaker 4: It was that night that was the inciting event. That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Joey Diaz Brogan, they all got up on stage

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Speaker 2: and the world was never the same Joey d all right.

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Speaker 3: Also, it's a ton of people's birthdays we're talking specifically about,

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Speaker 3: you know, the big hits like Alfredo Bina, the Italian cyclist.

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Speaker 3: I'm literally just picking names out of the list.

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Speaker 2: And as of today, all three of us on this

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Speaker 2: show have just become older. So we're now older gentlemen. Now, hey,

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Speaker 4: Us, gentlemen of a certain age, of a certain interest

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Speaker 3: Perhaps I like when people say vintage for age. Also,

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Speaker 3: our pal Dylan Tennessee is on the wave for a

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Speaker 3: birthday as well, Dylan, And won't get too specific on

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Speaker 3: that one before we dive in. Okay, we've got a

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Speaker 3: lot of disturbing stuff that's happening and off air Actually,

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Speaker 3: we pushed our recording time a bit to chat about

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Speaker 3: all these fluid developments in place. So we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a roller coaster. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: some positive, funny stuff, some up and down kind of experiences,

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Speaker 3: positive note or maybe like a weird note. You guys

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Speaker 3: like pizza, Yes, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been known to have a pizza party from

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Speaker 3: I love a pizza party. Shout up, book it. And

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Speaker 3: I'm also really happy that you didn't say no, Ben,

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Speaker 3: pizza is terrible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who would say such a thing. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: guess there are Do you know about the pizza the

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Speaker 4: is pen No, I'm sorry, is it Pittsburgh? I'm sorry

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Speaker 4: cheese and it's not the cold toppings? Yes? What's that about?

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Speaker 3: Wait?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Wait, wait what it's a style.

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Speaker 4: Of pizza in Pittsburgh, Thank you, Dylan where the cheese

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Speaker 4: is served cold and the toppings are served cold on

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Speaker 4: Doesn't seem don't it don't seem right?

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Speaker 3: Man? I got super into hierarchies a pizza. You know,

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Speaker 3: are mystified by it. What's your favorite style, Ben, my

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Speaker 3: I don't like deep dish.

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Speaker 4: You don't like a deep dish. I respect it. It's

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of food. It's heavy. It's like a

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Speaker 2: Shout out local pizza joint Parma Tavern got their pizza

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Speaker 2: last night as we're recording. It's called some like it Hot.

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Speaker 2: It's got a chili pepper bass. So instead of pizzas

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Speaker 4: Who was that spot?

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Speaker 4: We had Atari games and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a pizza place that has the person's name in it,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, John's Pizza in NYC is also a

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Speaker 3: Sure, we got Geno's here. We've got a bunch of

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Speaker 3: us about the New York pizza thing again. For now,

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Speaker 3: what we'll see is that, look, we're all fans of pizza.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to get into the history of it

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Speaker 3: unless we do something on it for Ridiculous History or

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Speaker 3: our pals Saver, one of the best food shows out there,

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Speaker 3: does something on it. But recently, guys, on just July

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Speaker 3: Apparently the authorities have concluded that famous Yeti's Pizza in Stoughton,

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Speaker 3: accidentally dosed at least eighty five people with THCHC. I

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Speaker 3: believe through probably through the cooking, you know, like how

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Speaker 2: Well, it was in the dough, right, They used oil

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Speaker 3: It also got into the garlic bread. Additionally, it got

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Speaker 4: I mean, you could argue that it's a marketing ploy. No,

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Speaker 4: that wouldn't really work. Where is it again, It's in Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Okay, No,

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Speaker 4: not the same at all. It also reminds me of

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Speaker 4: that was using pizza delivery as a way of delivering cocaine.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, guys Russeldorf really quickly. I just looked at

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Speaker 2: was one of those companies we've talked about. I guess

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Speaker 2: not a ghost kitchen, but they share their in their

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Speaker 2: works in that same kitchen makes thc. Somebody making the

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's what we're saying. It's your honor for legal purposes,

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Speaker 2: Oh and it was a state licensed vendor who prepares edibles.

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Speaker 4: Oh, we haven't even done.

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Speaker 3: think it's okay because you know, hopefully you like us,

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Speaker 3: enjoy pizza and Dylan. I hope we can repair our

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Speaker 3: relationship now that I've confessed that I'm not the biggest

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Speaker 3: fan of Deep Dish, but agreed Chicago forever for anything

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Speaker 3: but malort. We're gonna pause for a word from our sponsors,

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Speaker 3: and then we're going to get into some more strange

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Speaker 3: do you guys want the good news first, like continue

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Speaker 4: Do we make it a good news sandwich, a good

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Speaker 3: Great, Okay, here we go. So, guys, remember turk Ministan.

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Speaker 4: How could I forget heard of it?

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Speaker 3: How could I forget? We'll always have turk Ministan, we

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Speaker 3: turk Ministan. For over over half a century, out in

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Speaker 3: to Centralia, Pennsylvania, this thing often called the Door to Hell,

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Speaker 4: Okay, can you not a moment too soon? Those cenobytes

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Speaker 4: Keeping for all that gas to accumulate and just consistently

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for all of it to just exist in that pocket,

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Speaker 3: There and once the fires, well, you know, it'd be

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Speaker 3: Or has survived. Oh that would also I think that

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Speaker 3: to us from Daniel Graham, writing for Discover Wildlife. The

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Speaker 3: fires aren't completely out yet for any absolute sith lords

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Speaker 3: The reduction of fires, however, per Arena L'eva, the director

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Speaker 3: whatever they say, the reduction in fires is nearly threefold.

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Speaker 3: We prize media literacy, so we would never we still

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Speaker 3: never read a single source before we make a conclusion.

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Speaker 4: But it's it's that erosion of that journalistic integrity that's

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Speaker 4: a direct result of the throwaway kind of culture of

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Speaker 4: Internet content. I mean not to put too fine a

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Speaker 4: point on it, but I think that's a big part

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 2: And no one is immune, that's correct, even The Guardian,

445
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Speaker 2: one of my personal favorite outlets that exists on the planet.

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Speaker 2: And you know, speaking of not looking at one source,

447
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Speaker 2: when you've got a great group like the folks at

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Speaker 2: the Guardian, they will work with multiple other outlets when

449
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Speaker 2: they're doing a big investigation, which is what we're about

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Speaker 2: to explore, one of those multi agency investigations.

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Speaker 3: And before we get to that, we got to tell you, folks,

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Speaker 3: pro Publica is awesome. A lot of people don't like

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Speaker 3: it because it speaks truth to power, but pro Publica,

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Speaker 3: I would argue, is somewhat an exception to some of

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Speaker 3: these other sources that we're.

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Speaker 4: Talking Axios two maybe they do good work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and for quite a while the Intercept, I think

458
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: they're still at it. Every once in a while you

459
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Speaker 2: will find something incredible coming out of there.

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Speaker 4: And four oh four Media we dig a lot too.

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Speaker 4: In terms of like internety news items. I think they've

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Speaker 4: been doing a fine job.

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Speaker 2: There's lots of good ones.

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Speaker 3: If you have any leftover money, If folks don't VEMMO

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Speaker 3: uncle Sam to pay the national debt? Donate sorry or propublican?

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Speaker 3: How come you know that gets me? This is a derailment.

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Speaker 3: But how come just once? I want a cold call

468
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Speaker 3: message that's not asking me to donate. I want to

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Speaker 3: be donated too, you know what I mean? Like, Hi,

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Speaker 3: I'm the World Wildlife Federation. Good hustle, You're in danger,

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Speaker 3: You're an endangered entity. Here's I don't care how much

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Speaker 3: money is. It's the principle. Yeah, here's two bits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah about about sorry. That goes back to South Park.

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Speaker 2: By the way, South Park season twenty seven, episode two

475
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Speaker 2: is out right now. Episode three is on its way.

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Speaker 4: And did you see that the White House posted us

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Speaker 4: still from it as a way of recruiting ice. Oh

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Speaker 4: it's not Yeah, they did that, to which the South

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Speaker 4: Park fellows responded, Oh, so I guess we are relevant

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Speaker 4: hashtag eat a bag of.

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Speaker 3: Oh they did?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well all right, so okay, reported we've gone through that.

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Speaker 3: We've yeah, yeap.

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Speaker 2: So to breach the subject we're going to today, we

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Speaker 2: have to go back in time time time time. We

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Speaker 2: were jumping to the Electronic Frontier Foundation's NSA timeline that

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Speaker 2: you can find at www. Dot eff dot org slash

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Speaker 2: NSA dash spying slash timeline.

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Speaker 4: Check it out.

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Speaker 2: It's got an entire timeline of the warrantless wiretapping and

492
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Speaker 2: crazy mass surveillance that the United States has been going

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Speaker 2: through since two thousand and one. And it goes way

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Speaker 2: back the NSA timeline here, guys to seventeen ninety one.

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Speaker 2: Whoa cool stuff. Wait in there, you're gonna remember a

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Speaker 2: guy named John wu Uh. I think his real name

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Speaker 2: is you tune Uh though, John You not wu John

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Speaker 2: You was a He was an attorney. He was a

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Speaker 2: Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel

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Speaker 2: way back in the day, only for a couple of

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Speaker 2: years two thousand and one and two thousand and three.

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Speaker 2: He's he's one of the guys that came up with

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Speaker 2: the legal framework for things like, you know, going around

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Speaker 2: the Geneva Conventions, when it came to torturer and when

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Speaker 2: it came to how do we surveil everybody in a

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Speaker 2: country enhanced interrogation, yes, well yeah, yeah, yeah, the torture members.

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Speaker 4: But also he had a torture schmortcher. He all comes

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Speaker 4: enhanced in there.

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Speaker 3: He had a phenomenal interview with John Stewart by the

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Speaker 3: way back.

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Speaker 2: In the day.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he did.

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Speaker 2: But he's also the guy, no matter how great he is,

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Speaker 2: he's the guy that found a way to make this

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Speaker 2: terrible stuff happen, which is.

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Speaker 3: All we go. I'm not saying he's a good guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying the interview was good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well yeah, just again, everyone is complicated, right, But

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Speaker 2: it's just a weird individual that you will find there

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Speaker 2: in the timeline. And if you look at that timeline,

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Speaker 2: you will see that on October fourth, two thousand and one,

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Speaker 2: twenty three days after the Twin Towers fell, the president

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Speaker 2: at that time signed off on this secret eavesdropping operation

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Speaker 2: that was so secretive that the people who generally know

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Speaker 2: about this kind of stuff, people in the national security

526
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Speaker 2: sector there, the senior folks, they had no idea it

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Speaker 2: was happening. They had no idea it was taking off.

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Speaker 2: John used one of the people who came through and

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Speaker 2: came up with a legal framework for that program. Then

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Speaker 2: you move on to around late two thousand and two,

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Speaker 2: and that is when telecommunications companies in the United States

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Speaker 2: began doing this kind of voluntary handover of information about

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Speaker 2: their customers. So this is when everybody from AT and

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Speaker 2: T to Verizon to everyone who's operating would say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: us government, you've got this program, and for the good

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Speaker 2: of the country, for the good of everybody, at least

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Speaker 2: that's the way it's framed. You can have all the

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Speaker 2: metadata on our folks, the people who pay us to

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Speaker 2: use communications services, and by the way, that is through

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Speaker 2: requests from the FISA courts, the Foreign Intelligence surveillance courts.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting that that's occurring. And then you just

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Speaker 2: keep on going down the line here because those voluntary

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Speaker 2: systems stopped. And then there came some really weird stuff

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Speaker 2: that Edward Snowden hipped everybody too that a lot of

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Speaker 2: other whistleblowers, including I think his name is Mark Klein,

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Speaker 2: some people who came forward who were inside AT and T,

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Speaker 2: who were inside telecommunications and said, hey, there's some weird

548
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Speaker 2: stuff going on. The NSA is operating in our San

549
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Speaker 2: Francisco AT and T building, and they're building a secret

550
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Speaker 2: room and that secret room has this weird thing in it.

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Speaker 2: It's very strange. It's called a NARIS surveillance system. They

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Speaker 2: called it NARIS Surveillance equipment. It's the kind of stuff

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Speaker 2: that siphons off all data that's coming through that giant

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Speaker 2: communications hub in San Francisco for AT and T and

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Speaker 2: it copies it essentially.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, don't worry about the massive storage infrastructure there.

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Speaker 3: But do ask yourself, what is prism?

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh, yes, so something like this. And this is

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Speaker 2: January two thousand and three when we hear about that

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Speaker 2: AT and T stuff.

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Speaker 4: This is.

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Speaker 2: This is all happening right way back in the day.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about over twenty years ago. This is happening

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Speaker 2: just in the US. Then in twenty thirteen we learn

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Speaker 2: about Verizon getting in with the NSA and how all

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Speaker 2: of the calls that were made by all Verizon customers

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Speaker 2: for just a couple months back in twenty thirteen, we're

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Speaker 2: copying all the information was handed over to the NSA.

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Speaker 2: And that was just a special little thing. And again

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Speaker 2: because there was some whistleblower that found a document, began

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Speaker 2: talking about and reported on. In this case, it was

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Speaker 2: Glenn Greenwald that we know from at the time at

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Speaker 2: least it was through the Guardian, and then we know

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Speaker 2: about his reporting through the Intercept a couple other places.

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Speaker 2: But that's one of the people. One of the journalists

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Speaker 2: individuals that are willing to talk about this stuff. And

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Speaker 2: then we jump all the way down, guys to today

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Speaker 2: today published in The Guardian, written by Harry Davies in

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Speaker 2: Yvelle Abraham. There's a new story coming out and here's

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Speaker 2: the title, A Million Calls an hour. Israel relying on

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Speaker 2: Microsoft Cloud for expansive surveillance of Palestinians and this is

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Speaker 2: a new kind of mass surveillance program. All the ones

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Speaker 2: that we've talked about in this episode before this were

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Speaker 2: metadata systems. At least according to every piece of documentation

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Speaker 2: that I've seen, they are recording information about calls, stuff

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Speaker 2: like who the people are that are calling the numbers,

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Speaker 2: who they're associated with, right, how long the.

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Speaker 3: Call was, the time the call was made, the location.

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Speaker 3: That's a fig leaf, though it is. It is the

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Speaker 3: idea then, I think, just to put it plainly, is

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Speaker 3: that those previous systems. Check out our twenty thirteen snowed

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Speaker 3: In episode, even Snowden was arguing, they're not checking for

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Speaker 3: content of the call, no men.

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Speaker 4: No data.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to see who's communicating with whom. At least again,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about the early two thousands, though do you

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Speaker 2: want to know why, Guys, I think this is my opinion,

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Speaker 2: why I think they weren't just screening all of the

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Speaker 2: phone calls at that time in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and three, do tell because there was not

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Speaker 2: the computing power or the storage to keep all of

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Speaker 2: that information or to be able to even analyze any

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Speaker 2: of that information. Because the systems, at least the one

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Speaker 2: that was being talked about in two thousand and three

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Speaker 2: that was installed at and T, it is analyzing thousands

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Speaker 2: of pieces of communication every set, which is a lot,

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Speaker 2: but it's not nearly enough, it's not nearly fast enough,

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Speaker 2: and you couldn't store it somewhere. There were no If

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Speaker 2: you think about what cloud storage has become nowadays, that

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00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: didn't exist back then, Well it does now through things

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Speaker 2: like Microsoft Azure Azure I guess is what you would

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Speaker 2: call it. Things you know out there like Adobe's servers

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Speaker 2: that they have their cloud servers that are just massive

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Speaker 2: installations that can hold you know, untold amounts of information,

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Speaker 2: essentially infinite information. It continues to expand right at least now,

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Speaker 2: because of this new investigation from The Guardian plus nine

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Speaker 2: to seventy two magazine and local call. This new program

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Speaker 2: in Israel records every single phone call made in the

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Speaker 2: West Bank and in Gaza. And we're talking, you know,

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Speaker 2: there are three million human beings in the West Bank

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Speaker 2: and they this is that whole thing. A million calls

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Speaker 2: an hour, that is rough what it is recording and storing.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that, guys, A million calls an hour are stored

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Speaker 2: through this mass surveillance program that Israel is running.

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Speaker 3: Not the information about the calls, the content of the

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Speaker 3: calls themselves. And Matt, from what we understand here, the

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Speaker 3: nation of Israel has pretty much run all Palestinian telecoms

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Speaker 3: for some time. Oh yeah, so it's not a huge

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Speaker 3: stretch for this to be deployed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, correct. It's the kind of thing where if you're

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Speaker 2: living there in Gaza, you may imagine, gosh, I wonder

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Speaker 2: if I wonder if anybody's just listening to all these calls.

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Speaker 2: Now that's all run you know, by people that are

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Speaker 2: bombing us currently. Yeah, it is. And it also helps

635
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Speaker 2: when you take out most of the telecommunications systems with bombs.

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Speaker 2: Right now, now this entire area is reliant on your systems.

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Speaker 2: It's it's really, it's really creepy. You can look up

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Speaker 2: Unit eighty two hundred. This is kind of it's equivalent to,

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Speaker 2: but not the same as, the NSA for Israel, and

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00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: you can just you could read this entire thing. I

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Speaker 2: would recommend it highly. It is crazy, you guys. These

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Speaker 2: calls are kept for a long time, you know, thirty

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Speaker 2: days or more. They are analyzed using AI systems. There

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Speaker 2: is a threat level assessment that occurs. That is not

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00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: a human It is a system. It is an algorithm

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Speaker 2: that is figuring out who's threatening and who's not. They

647
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: are also looking at all text messages and they have

648
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Speaker 2: been doing that since around twenty twenty one, and again

649
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Speaker 2: using AI systems to assess those things. Is this person

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Speaker 2: a threat? Are they communicating threatening things? It's really creepy,

651
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Speaker 2: really scary. According to Microsoft, they had no idea this

652
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Speaker 2: is what was happening. We thought we were just storing

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Speaker 2: a bunch of things. The CEO allegedly met with the

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Speaker 2: chief just give these names. Setaya Nadella, who is the

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Speaker 2: CEO of Microsoft, met with the commander of that unit

656
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Speaker 2: eighty two hundred back in twenty twenty one. The unit

657
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: commander of eighty two hundred said, hey, we've got a

658
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: lot of data we want to go to the cloud.

659
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: We think you're the right people for it. But a secret,

660
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: super secret, And you know, Nadella said that sounds like

661
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: a lot of money. Now I'm just showing you we

662
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: have official statements for Microsoft that you know, say we

663
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: had no idea. We have official statements from a lot

664
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: of people saying basically, hey, we're just doing business here.

665
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: But it is the equivalent of millions and millions and

666
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: millions of dollars. So, guys, it's just a really messed

667
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: up thing to think that there that you could even

668
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: possibly record all of those calls and then use them.

669
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: According to a couple of people within eighty two hundred

670
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: who came forward for this investigation, again, you got to

671
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: trust the Guardian and these other outfits that they're telling

672
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: the truth, because these are unnamed witnesses. These are unnamed

673
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: people who are a part of the Israeli intelligence group.

674
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: But they are saying that these calls were used to

675
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: maybe target an individual that they thought was maybe a threat,

676
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: and then they would listen to the calls of everybody

677
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: in the surrounding area.

678
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: Not even direct communicators, right, Not the Kevin bacon game

679
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: that we talk about with PRISM or other surveillance systems.

680
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: This is geographically based. So this is for instance, if

681
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: we hear someone on one two three Main Street and

682
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: they become a person of interest to us, then everybody

683
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: on one two three Main Street is now of interest.

684
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically a neighborhood level. You just listen to everybody

685
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 2: in there again, listening to the full phone call too,

686
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: everything that's said, calls between everybody.

687
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: No longer just metadata stuff. This is like a cut above.

688
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because analysts, I'm sorry I have

689
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: to be vague here, but analysts have long been This

690
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: has been around for a minute, some version this across

691
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: various countries and regions of conflict. Analysts are already figuring

692
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: out or speculating on how this will run a foul

693
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: of some EU stuff because those servers that are being

694
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: used for this gargantuan infrastructure, they're not based in the

695
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 3: Middle East. They're more like in what I believe Netherlands

696
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: Ireland properly.

697
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: Yes, at least those are the two known ones where

698
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: the information is primarily stored. It's weird too, because this

699
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: is the kind of thing where back in the day. Again,

700
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: before September eleventh, two thousand and one, before a lot

701
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: of these legal precedents were said, before a lot of

702
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: you know, the world decided this kind of thing was

703
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: a necessary evil To protect everyone, you would have to

704
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: target somebody for surveillance. You'd have to say, Okay, this

705
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: person is suspected of some bad stuff, We're going to

706
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: target them for surveillance. In this case, you record all

707
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: the phone calls. Then somebody gets put on a list

708
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: for one reason or another. One text goes through that's

709
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: a little iffy, and the system says, hey, we think

710
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: you should look at this person. Now, Unit eighty two

711
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: hundred can go back for a month or more and

712
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: listen to every single phone call that person has made

713
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: or received and can decide if that person is actually

714
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: a threat or not. That to me is just super creepy.

715
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, because it's it's restructuring the typical order of operations, right.

716
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: Even Look, it's no secret that in the wake of

717
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: September eleventh, and they're in the subsequent war on Terror

718
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: or however was packaged to the global public. It's no

719
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: secret that there was a lot of beat me here,

720
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: Dylan cowboys going on the wallet was open, the rationale

721
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 3: was there. You could finally do all the government overreach

722
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: stuff you wanted, and you could do it while you

723
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: had a flag draped around your shoulders. That is the reality,

724
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: and you can't. It's very difficult to walk that stuff back,

725
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: you know where I would say at this point, almost

726
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: regardless of where you live, you should assume that your

727
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: communications are going to be heavily monitored.

728
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it does feel that way. Did y'all see

729
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: the John Oliver piece about gang lists, about lists of Yeah,

730
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's not the same, but it's it's

731
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: a similar level of willy nilly, uh, you know, putting

732
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 4: people's names on lists that maybe don't deserve to be there,

733
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: and then the lack of transparency with how the hell

734
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: to get yourself off of it?

735
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: Right where they like where they put the anti gang

736
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: activist who sang the hook for these.

737
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 4: With the most anti gang song from the most anti

738
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: gang movie of the nineties starring Michelle Pfeiffer.

739
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't want to derail us here, guys,

740
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: But I think there's there's a parable and there's lesson

741
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: in this, and there's a hell of a horizon ahead

742
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: because these folks. We didn't say this explicitly, Matt, but

743
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 3: I think it's obvious. None of these folks got a

744
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: chance to consent to being surveilled in this way, and

745
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: none of the folks that we're talking about had a

746
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: chance to contest any arbitrary or AI driven decision made

747
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: about them. They also were not informed about this, So

748
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: a lot of violations there.

749
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and according to several people from Unit eighty two

750
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: hundred who came forward are saying that these calls were

751
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: specifically used to identify bombing targets during the ongoing campaign

752
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: in Gaza, where thousands of civilians have died. Anyway, I

753
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: think that's all I got. Guys, definitely read this entire thing.

754
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: There's so much more to be said about this. Look

755
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: it up on your own and assess on your own,

756
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe let us know what you think.

757
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more Strange News.

758
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Speaker 4: And we have returned with today's final segment of Strange News,

759
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 4: and Ben teese that at the top he had a

760
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: very kindred story about radioactive animals on the loose, So

761
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: I'll just go ahead and lead with that one. It

762
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: also hits kind of close to home for me, I think.

763
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Speaker 4: I know. I've mentioned multiple times that I used to

764
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 4: do a little bit of coverage for public radio around

765
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Speaker 4: the nuclear industry in Augusta, Georgia, and one of the

766
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: sites that was involved in that reporting was the Savannah

767
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Speaker 4: River site in South Carolina. I lived in Augusta, Georgia,

768
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 4: right across the river, the Savannah River. From Augusta, Georgia,

769
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Speaker 4: you're in South Carolina, North Augusta, South Carolina, and a

770
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: little further than that you're gonna find SRS as it's

771
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 4: referred to. And it is a one of those super

772
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: fun sites as we talked about, that is involved in

773
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: the disposal of legacy nuclear waste left over from the

774
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: manufacturing of nuclear weapons. It is overseen by the US

775
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: Department of Energy, and you know, they've got ongoing activities

776
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: there designed to monitor various pits and areas that were

777
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: used to dispose of rake radioactive waste before they knew

778
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 4: that was maybe a bad idea. And there are also

779
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: these these tanks, these underground waste tanks, so liquid nuclear

780
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: waste is actually stored in some of these underground tanks.

781
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: And on July third, this is near Aiken, South Carolina.

782
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: Officials at the srs or Savannah River Site found a

783
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 4: radioactive wasps nest with radiation levels ten times that which

784
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 4: is allowed by federal regulations. The immediate reaction, after probably

785
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 4: a bit of an ocean because a wasp nest, whether

786
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: radioactive or no, is nothing to fool with it, was

787
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 4: to spray it with the sect killer, remove it, and

788
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 4: dispose of it as radioactive waste. They say that no

789
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: mega radioactive wasp creatures were found. The report said that

790
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: there is no leak from the waste tanks and the

791
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: nest was likely irradiated through what they referred to as

792
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: quote on site legacy radioactive contamination oh TY, residual radiation

793
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: leftover from when the site was fully operational. This is

794
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 4: what you would consider a decommissioned site. So all activities

795
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 4: there are clean up activities. There are watchdog groups that also,

796
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 4: you know, keep an eye on this kind of stuff,

797
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: and Savannah River Site Watch said that the report was

798
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: incomplete at best, as it doesn't detail where the contamination

799
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: came from. This vague sort of ambient contamination radioactivity is

800
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: a little bit on the creepy end of vague. Let

801
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: us just say, so, it does indicate that there may

802
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: be another radioactive nest elsewhere. There may also be a

803
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 4: leak somewhere. The Associated Press reports that knowing the type

804
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 4: of wasp nest could also be critical. Some wasps make

805
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: nests out of dirt and others use different material, which

806
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: could pinpoint where the contamination came from. Said Tom Clements,

807
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 4: the executive director of that watch group. I'm as mad

808
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 4: as a hornet. He says that SRS didn't explain where

809
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 4: the radioactive waste came from, or if there is some

810
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 4: kind of leak from the waste tanks that the public

811
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 4: should be aware of. The tank farm, as it's referred to,

812
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 4: is inside the boundaries of the site, and wasps generally

813
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 4: fly just a few hundred yards from their nests, so

814
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: there's no danger that they are migrating outside of the

815
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: facility if there are, in fact any radioactive wasps to

816
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 4: be concerned about. And the last time SRS came up,

817
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: I can't remember the exact story that made me bring

818
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: this up, but I talked about how when I actually

819
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 4: went out there once, I talked to a lot of

820
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: scientists researchers who are on site. I think these efforts

821
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: are still ongoing. Who actually use native wildlife to track

822
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 4: the progress of radioactive decontamination over time. The specific ones

823
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: that I remember were turtles that were actually tagged with

824
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 4: these little micro kind of tags that they could use

825
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: to differentiate between them. They're not in any way like trackers.

826
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 4: I don't think they may be, but the whole point

827
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: was they would know that we have tested this turtle before,

828
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: they'd pick it up, bring it back to the lab,

829
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: run at Geiger counter or whatever over it, and then

830
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 4: use them as kind of benchmarks as to how successful

831
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: the efforts to decontaminate this site have been, and it

832
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 4: is ongoing because as we know, you know, radiation that

833
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: don't just go away overnight. So what do you guys

834
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 4: think radioactive wasp worried, not worried, indifferent.

835
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm for it cool dealing with some wasp stuff over

836
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: here in home base.

837
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: And what I have.

838
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: Learned about wasp sky is that they generally don't go

839
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: very far from where their nest is, so hopefully not

840
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 2: going to be a problem for the human population.

841
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 3: Again, yeah, depending on the type of wasp. Radioactive animals

842
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 3: are so interesting to me. I also want to shout

843
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: out the New York Times for calling them hot wasp

844
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: You I like the idea that someone's got some hot wasp.

845
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: What's your hot take on the hot wasp spell?

846
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 3: While the idea here first is this could have you know,

847
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 3: not comic book level altering effects on the wasp, but

848
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: it's definitely not going to be good for their population

849
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 3: as well, right, Like we know, we've had great discussions

850
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 3: about how disasters at Chernobyl, for instance, were actually over

851
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: the long term kind of good for biodiversity in the

852
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: area because they removed humans. But now I think one

853
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: thing I really appreciate about you bringing the story is

854
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 3: that it shows us how much more is out there,

855
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: Like for any students of nuclear shenanigans, Silvada is a

856
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 3: fascinating place right the Savada River site, and they still

857
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: haven't found that bomb, have they. You're more familiar with

858
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: it than I am.

859
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't remember that story right off the top. I'm

860
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 4: sure I knew about it in the past, the coast

861
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 4: of Savada, that's right. I do remember talking about that. That

862
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 4: wasn't something that I was super super familiar with, But

863
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 4: I'll have to do a little digging into that myself.

864
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 4: I do want to just backtrack one second. The site

865
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 4: was decommissioned as a site for manufacturing the plutonium cores

866
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 4: to make nuclear weapons during the Cold War, of course

867
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 4: with the Soviet Union. But now it actually is still

868
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 4: used to make product, and that product would be fuel

869
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: rods for nuclear plants, nuclear power plants. And again, of

870
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 4: course these activities involving cleaning up that legacy waste from

871
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 4: manufacturing of those nuclear weapon cores, nuclear bomb cores. According

872
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 4: to the AP and the Savannah River site stats, the

873
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 4: site generated more than one hundred and sixty five million

874
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 4: gallons of liquid nuclear waste, which has through evaporation been

875
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: reduced to about thirty four million gallons. And that is

876
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: according to Savannah River Mission completion. So an ongoing process there.

877
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: And no, do we have any do we have any

878
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: specific stats on like the level of contamination on these wasp.

879
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: Ten times what is allowed by federal regulations. That's all

880
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: I've got. So I don't know if that's specific WASP

881
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 4: specific or just like you know, wildlife specific, I think,

882
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: but ten times the allowable federal limits.

883
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so it sounds like ten types the allowable federal

884
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: limits for contamination of wildlife in general.

885
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right.

886
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: This is one of those weird, weirdly specific questions. We

887
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: always run into it our research, So we were everybody, luck,

888
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: how much is too much? How much is too much

889
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: for a wasp? Specifically, where's the study on that? Well,

890
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 3: we know the study will be on the way now.

891
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: And remember the murder hornets? Yes, yes, yeah, I actually

892
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 4: came up in the movie Eddington, which I quite enjoyed.

893
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, what if we had nuclear radioactive murder hornets? O?

894
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 2: Hey, fast, guys. There are also European hornets that look

895
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: a lot like the murder hornets, just smaller in size.

896
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: If you see them in the backyard, do be aware

897
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: they could be nesting somewhere in your home.

898
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 4: Do run for the hills.

899
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: And they are giant and scary, but not as giant

900
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: as the giant murder hornets.

901
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

902
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: Also you have to run. If you do run, remember

903
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: to come back. If you're human, you need to hold

904
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: the lie. I'm sorry, I don't know what talking you

905
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: can cover.

906
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: Oh.

907
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: Also, there's a totally unrelated other than the kinds of

908
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: animals we're speaking about. We'll maybe follow this up in

909
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: a future listener mail. But people who think they can

910
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 3: smell ants or people who can smell ants, or probably

911
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: smelling formic acid. Just get to get any emails on

912
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: that one. That's just one of the many out of

913
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: context facts.

914
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 4: What is this substance and how is it excreted? It's

915
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 4: that ant stank, bro, That's what I thought. It's that

916
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 4: ant musk. Yeah, okay, got it. Do check out our

917
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 4: episode on pheromones and you know animal musk and human musk. Well,

918
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 4: we'll move on from that one real quick to it

919
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: seems to be an epidemic just absolutely overtaking the WNBA.

920
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 4: It appears that some practical or impractical jokers slash sports

921
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 4: fans keep throwing adult implements onto the courts of w

922
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: NBA games. For the third time in a week, it

923
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 4: would seem a sex toy was thrown onto a court

924
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: at a w NBA game Tuesday, August the fifth. As

925
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 4: we record this that yesterday, a game between the Indiana

926
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 4: Fever and the Los Angeles Sparks was disrupted when an

927
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 4: object described as being a sex toy was thrown onto

928
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 4: the court. An announcer exclaimed, oh, look out, something just

929
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: came onto the floor. An object just flew in as

930
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 4: the free throw is being made. The free throw rather,

931
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 4: it looked like that hit a player too. Oh dear,

932
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: it does appear to have hit fever player Sophie Cunningham.

933
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 4: Sparks did come out on top, no pun intended of

934
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 4: that game, one hundred to ninety one. The first incident

935
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 4: hits a little closer to home here in Georgia. On

936
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 4: July twenty ninth, still again, same week, in about between

937
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 4: the Golden State Valkyries and the Atlanta Dreams took place

938
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 4: in College Park, which is not too far from where

939
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 4: we are here in Atlanta. Morgan Reagan, who is a

940
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: sports announcer, said, during a replay, something flies on the court,

941
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 4: actually from the crowd, and you can see the object,

942
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 4: the green thing bounces and it goes the sideline. We're

943
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 4: not exactly sure where it came from. Uh, she continued,

944
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 4: as a timeout was called according to people, and the

945
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 4: game was paused. No room for any of that type

946
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: of activity. And no one's picked the object up yet,

947
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 4: you guys, then we uh we move on to a

948
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: further realization from Reagan saying, oh my gosh, okay, okay, inappropriate,

949
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 4: get him out of here. Whoever it was that through that,

950
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: And guys, what do you think for the plural for

951
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 4: dildo is I'm thinking dildy. We've got a spate of

952
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 4: as a pitch. I think it's fine till day if

953
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 4: till till till don't. Actually, this is a bad move.

954
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 4: This does seem to Yeah, it doesn't. This seem to

955
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 4: be an act of misogyny, like.

956
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 3: It does seem targeted, because it's not as though when

957
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: you were first telling me about this off air, I

958
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: was unaware. It does seem that it is not like

959
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: a gorilla marketing campaign by a sex toy company because

960
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: they're not targeting correct me if I'm off base here.

961
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: They're not targeting anything but wns.

962
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 4: That's sure what it seems like. I don't like it. Oh,

963
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: it seems pretty gross. And the other one was in

964
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 4: Chicago during the Valkyrie August first game against the Chicago

965
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: Sky seven minutes into the third quarter, a person threw

966
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 4: a similar object onto the court of wind Trust Arena

967
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: in Chicago. The broadcast footage saw again a green sex

968
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 4: toy being thrown onto the sidelines, just shy of the court.

969
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: Guys, it sounds like the whitest kids, you know, sketch

970
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: to me, like, that's all the whole thing sounds like

971
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: a setup.

972
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 4: Well, you know what occurred to me, especially with the

973
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 4: idea of it being bouncy. What if a fun sketch

974
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: would be a basketball game played with entirely bouncy sex

975
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: toys instead of basketballs.

976
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: Here we go.

977
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 3: You have my attention, now, you have my interest.

978
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's it would be you know, fun and

979
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: sketch for him in any case.

980
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, if it was consensual and that that player

981
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 5: that got beamed by the the object in question tweeted,

982
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 5: stop throwing dildos on the court.

983
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 4: You guys, Yeah, you're gonna hurt one of us. It's funny,

984
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: but it's also I think it's pretty gross. It does

985
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: appear to be like a kind of dismissal of women's sports.

986
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: It feels in selly, to be quite honest, And it

987
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: feels like, look, you know, any professional athlete has been

988
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: in a situation where people at the at the game

989
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: are throwing stuff, you know, whether that's bottles of beer,

990
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: whether that's underwear, would be another thing. But this one

991
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: seems like they're inherent pointed implicitly right, they're choosing this

992
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: now I did find, Nola Matt. I did find something

993
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: interesting from eight years ago on a forum trying to

994
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: figure out the collective noun for a group of dildos.

995
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: And I'm going to go with a waggle, A waggle.

996
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a murder of crows and a waggle

997
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 4: of doze dild does that is? We do have from

998
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 4: this people article that I mentioned a little snippet from

999
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: the fan code of Conduct for the w NBA, which

1000
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 4: comes from its website, which says guests who engage in fighting,

1001
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 4: throwing objects, or attempting to enter the court will be

1002
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: immediately ejected from the arena, and no suspects have yet

1003
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: to be identified, which is funny considering the intense TV

1004
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: coverage of these things. But I guess, you know, they

1005
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 4: saw the object onto the court, but they didn't. They

1006
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 4: weren't able to pull you know, the identity of the assailor.

1007
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: The camera probably follows the object moving onto the court, right,

1008
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: But I think that makes sense cameras. Another question is security,

1009
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 3: How do you get through security?

1010
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 4: Well, it's not metal, so you could have it on

1011
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: your person. I suppose perhaps even in your person.

1012
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, that makes sense if it's just a

1013
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 3: metal detector that might not clock it.

1014
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 4: You know what I mean when I say in your person, Yeah,

1015
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: I know what you mean. It makes it extra cross

1016
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: touch it. Don't touch it all. If you see dildo's flying,

1017
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 4: do not touch it.

1018
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. That is a great takeaway if

1019
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: asops fable, this must be if you're walking by anywhere.

1020
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a game. If we're walked

1021
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: by anywhere and you see a dildo on the ground,

1022
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: let it be where it's at.

1023
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 4: It's not a lucky penny, and even those are pretty Yeah. Well,

1024
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 4: I will close out the episode today in this segment

1025
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 4: with a story that Matt was super interested in about

1026
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 4: a comedian named Matt Rife who is now the legal

1027
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 4: guardian of the haunted house that contains the original Annabelle

1028
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: Doll of Warren fame. You know of the Amityville Horror

1029
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: and the Conjuring films and all of that. There is

1030
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 4: a museum, the Warren Museum, which includes the Annabelle Doll,

1031
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 4: which I believe had to close due to some issues

1032
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 4: with the lease. We definitely reported on that this comedian

1033
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 4: does not own the these objects now, but rather is

1034
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 4: now the Steward, I guess, or the caretaker, and he

1035
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 4: did this along with a fellow YouTuber that I think

1036
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 4: just goes by Castille not familiar. Raife had this to say,

1037
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 4: if you know me, you know I'm obsessed with the

1038
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 4: paranormal and all things haunted. You also may know the

1039
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: Conjuring films are my favorite scary movies of all time.

1040
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: So I'm incredibly honored to have taken over one of

1041
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: the most prominent properties in paranormal history. A lot of

1042
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 4: peace there. Edda Lorraine Warren arguably put demonology and paranormal

1043
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 4: into the mainstream and are the very heart of some

1044
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 4: of the most famous haunted stories of all time. So

1045
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 4: it does seem like this is a bit of a

1046
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 4: fan move. Bet Matt, you asked what the deal was,

1047
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: why this person had done this, It just it does

1048
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 4: appear there. Maybe you're coming from an honest place. Real

1049
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 4: litter dot Com reported that the Warrant Occult Museum shut

1050
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: down in twenty nineteen because of zoning issues. Now Rife

1051
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 4: and Castille are planning to open it back up and

1052
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 4: welcome visitors. And this property is located where I want

1053
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 4: to say, it's Massachusetts, the most haunted place in America. Connecticut. Yes, Connecticut,

1054
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 4: that's awesome. It's yeah, another much to it other than

1055
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 4: it's kind of good news because if you're into this stuff,

1056
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 4: it maybe it's sort of like the what is it

1057
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 4: the South Park guys buying Casa Bonita, you know and

1058
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 4: opening that back up.

1059
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it looks like they're moving everything because of

1060
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: those zoning issues. So they're basically taking everything that's in

1061
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: that house and putting it on Main Street somewhere around

1062
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: the area where.

1063
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 4: Tons of other haunted cursed objects in this facilitat right,

1064
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 4: thank you cursed in quotes, Yes, we.

1065
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: Do check out. By the way, folks, if you're interested

1066
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 3: in this. We went through a heavy Warren phase. I

1067
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: definitely did. I think it was back in twenty sixteen

1068
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 3: we had an episode, an actual episode on the Warrens

1069
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: and the deep controversy surrounding at LRAE. We tried to

1070
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: be really fair with that one, but it is. I

1071
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: it is, if nothing else, even if you consider yourself

1072
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 3: a massive skeptic, it is a fascinating story.

1073
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 4: So do check it out for sure. And in that

1074
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 4: I think we mentioned the late couple's son in law,

1075
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 4: Tony Spara, who maintains the organization started by Ed and

1076
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 4: Lorraine or in New England Society for Psychic Research or NESPER,

1077
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 4: and he actually and that organization still officially owned the collection,

1078
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 4: which includes Annabel and over seven hundred and fifty additional

1079
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 4: bits of you know, ephemera.

1080
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: Dude, guys, they're turning the house into an airbnb, so

1081
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: that'll be popular. You can go stay there, let's skill,

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Speaker 2: let's do an episode inside the house.

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Speaker 4: That's a note for me. Dog, I've seen the movies.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 4: Freaking bunk up.

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Speaker 2: It'll be fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I'm down.

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Speaker 3: I owe some of those some of those folks that

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Speaker 3: reach out anyway.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, but some of those demonic spirits just to

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Speaker 4: check in.

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Speaker 3: You know how it is.

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Speaker 4: You gotta do. You gotta do a little checking out

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Speaker 4: with your infernal forces.

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Speaker 3: Of course. Of course, folks, this has been a wild ride,

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Speaker 3: We have so much more to get to. Please check

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Speaker 3: out our upcoming episodes. The Conspiracy of Cool is one

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