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Speaker 4: I asked my wife for a paternity test, but she

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Speaker 4: asked for a divorce in return.

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Speaker 5: Uh oh, he lost the trust and the wife. Uh.

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Speaker 4: I met my wife through a mutual friend. We were

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Speaker 4: friends for a year or so before we both became

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Speaker 4: single and decided we were compatible enough to date. We

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Speaker 4: were together two years before we got married, and I

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Speaker 4: do not know what got into me. My wife is loyal, faithful,

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Speaker 4: but I had been reading statistics about how many men

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Speaker 4: are raising children that aren't their own and had absolutely

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Speaker 4: no idea Around the time she found out she was pregnant.

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Speaker 4: We both wanted children, we weren't actively preventing it. And

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Speaker 4: by the way, this comes from user worried husband. Throw

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Speaker 4: So about three months and I couldn't take it anymore

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Speaker 4: and told her I wanted a paternity test. She asked

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Speaker 4: me if I was accusing her of cheating. I said, yes, dang,

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Speaker 4: what is wrong with you?

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Speaker 2: With no evidence whatsoever?

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Speaker 3: Ouch?

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Speaker 2: Man, what is wrong with you? Always get it like

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Speaker 2: the other way around kind of thing, you know.

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Speaker 3: Like it's it turns out that they're not cheating or something.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, or like they asked like ops, like oh they

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Speaker 6: asked me for a paternity test, and like I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know, right, yeah, Usually it's not I asked them for

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Speaker 4: a paternity It's like I'm asking my wife forget Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm accusing my wife, I think, but it's just like no,

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Speaker 4: I did it because I am easily swayed. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: So I said, yes, I'm accusing you of cheating. She

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Speaker 4: asked me why, and I couldn't answer. What, guys, we

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Speaker 4: gotta keep going. There's gonna be one like that every sentence.

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Speaker 3: I bet, let's keep Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Neither of us have ever been cheated on or have

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Speaker 2: been a cheater.

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Speaker 4: She works very hard, has long hours at her job,

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Speaker 4: but has always let me know where she is and

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Speaker 4: who she will be with. If she was going somewhere

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Speaker 4: with friends, I was always welcomed I don't know why

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Speaker 4: I did this, and it's tearing me up. She told

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Speaker 4: me she would gladly give me my paternity test, but

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Speaker 4: that she was moving back to her mother's until that

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Speaker 4: time because she didn't know if she wanted to continue

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Speaker 4: the marriage. She got an amniocentesis test at about twenty weeks.

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Speaker 4: I'm the father. And when she told me, I was

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Speaker 4: so happy, but she wasn't what you're doing this while

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Speaker 4: she's pregnant us. This isn't like a we have a

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Speaker 4: kid and we've raised it. Yeah, No, she's currently she's

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Speaker 4: literally pregnant right now with your child.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And that test is a prenatal test where a small

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Speaker 6: sample of amniotic fluid is extracted from the sex surrounding

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Speaker 6: the fetus for diagnostic testing.

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Speaker 2: All right, so it's the baby daddy test.

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Speaker 4: He've got the baby daddy, green green light, green light,

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Speaker 2: So I'm the father. And when she told me, I

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Speaker 2: was so happy. I was like God, but she wasn't.

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Speaker 4: She told me that she felt like she fell out

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Speaker 4: that she had no desire to reconcile. Our daughter was

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Speaker 4: She said she wants to keep this as amicable as

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Speaker 4: possible for the sake of our daughter, but I just

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Speaker 4: want to be a family. She doesn't want support or

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Speaker 4: and our daughter's needs and live a comfortable life. It's

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of how to fix this, and

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Speaker 4: I'm just such a broken mess. I want to prepare

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Speaker 4: I just can't think of anything but apologizing. And that

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Speaker 4: hasn't made a difference in the past months. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it would now. And there are some relevant comments. Brother,

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Speaker 4: you've put yourself in between the rock and the heart place. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because you're either flippant enough to be like you're either

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Speaker 4: distrusting enough to be like, Yeah, I do think you

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Speaker 4: cheated on me.

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Speaker 2: I don't trust you wife who's pregnant with my child.

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Speaker 4: Or your brain is so full of rocks that you're

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Speaker 4: just like, yeah, I've watched a red pilled YouTuber and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both of those are very bad. Like you gotta look.

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Speaker 5: Inward for a good long while and think, why did

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Speaker 5: I even think this in the first place, Because if

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Speaker 5: you know, if she decides to do that.

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Speaker 2: But you can't just be like, I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: I thought that, Like I've some sort of explanation needs

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it needs to be truthful. You can't just

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Speaker 4: And you came in way too hot, brother, Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: came in soul. You came in with the burning fury

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Speaker 4: of a thousand suns. Yeah. Three months into pregnancy you

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Speaker 4: said you want the paternity to and she goes, are

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Speaker 4: you accusing me of cheating? And you could have very

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Speaker 3: It said, you just go yes, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Because that's not like questioning like, oh, maybe she's cheating.

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Speaker 5: It's like, no, you are cheating. Yeah, you know, so

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It should have been like a this is not

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Speaker 4: I've gotten myself worked up to a point where now

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Speaker 4: I can't I'm like fixated on this idea that it

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Speaker 4: that you've cheated on me. I think that this will

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Speaker 4: just prove that. Yeah, but I'm in a weird spot,

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Speaker 4: and maybe she understands that a little bit more than yeah,

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Speaker 4: you dirty cheater, you cheated on me.

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Speaker 2: That's not my baby exactly. Anyway, let's get into the comments.

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Speaker 4: AKA Vince Black says a double utf no reason to

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Speaker 4: think she cheated, not one iota. Do you think aliens

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Speaker 4: impregnated her. I'd find it hard to overlook that too.

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Speaker 4: Op says, we were spetially active. So I did know

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Speaker 4: that there was a good likelihood I was the father.

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Speaker 4: I just couldn't shake that little voice that told me

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Speaker 4: I might not be. And there's the update, his little

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Speaker 3: Why don't you go and wake up and ruin your

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Speaker 3: whole life. Yeah, why don't you wake up and ruin everything?

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Speaker 4: Dude?

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Speaker 2: Don't listen to your little voice when it tells you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, or like that could have been even worded so differently,

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Speaker 5: even if you had a little voice that you couldn't shake,

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Speaker 5: don't come right out and be like, yeah, I'm accusing

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Speaker 6: Also, heads up chat, we have read this story a

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Speaker 6: while ago. This is a little bit updated, but there's

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Speaker 6: there's updates to this.

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Speaker 4: Ye so hard ages have ages for me, my sweet

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Speaker 4: baby boy bump bump bum me thirty five male, my

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Speaker 4: wife twenty nine female, okay, thirty five, twenty nine. So

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Speaker 4: he's like, I don't know, he was going through some

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, insecurity something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it like like it looks like updates for this one.

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Speaker 2: And again calment from the you know reddit.

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Speaker 3: Nice? Nice.

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Speaker 2: All right, well let's get into this update.

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Speaker 4: I got to sit down with my wife during my

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Speaker 4: visit with my daughter while she was napping. She says

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Speaker 4: So it was ooh, there was more. Here's why she

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Speaker 4: went nuclear quote unquote, as a lot of people said,

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Speaker 4: and as much as this hurt, I needed to hear it. One,

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Speaker 4: I had trouble trusting her our whole relationship, despite the

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Speaker 4: fact she had never cheated on me or any excess.

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Speaker 2: Really, that's so hard to believe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like you blatantly accused her of cheating

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Speaker 2: Maybe you've never trusted her this whole time.

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Speaker 3: Possible.

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Speaker 4: She's caught me snooping through her phone, email, work laptop before,

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Speaker 4: and because she deals with privileged information, she says, I

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Speaker 4: I have never found anything incriminating. Two, she has never

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Speaker 4: to me because she's caught me snooping before and she

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Speaker 4: wanted to assuage my feet. Three, I had recently installed

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Speaker 4: okay Cupid six months ago. Her best friend sent her

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Speaker 4: my profile, so she thinks that this is me projecting. Yeah, dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think it's you projecting.

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Speaker 3: That is what always happens in these stories.

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Speaker 5: Of course, She's gonna be upset with you for accusing

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Speaker 5: her out of nowhere, because that's what happens. Cheaters accused

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Speaker 5: other people cheating out of nowhere when they're.

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Speaker 3: Not brother you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you were on tender bro.

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Speaker 4: You were on Tenderer three months before your wife got pregnant.

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Speaker 2: You we're on Tinderer and okay.

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Speaker 3: Cupid, that's insane, insane.

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Speaker 2: You should have been on Okay, storytime.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no cheating there.

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Speaker 2: Other people go.

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Speaker 4: Listen to Weeezer Dude, hmm, real fans know what that means? Now?

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, Angie, do you know what that means? Nope? Okay,

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Speaker 2: not a real fan.

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Speaker 4: In the sun on an island in the sun, out

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Speaker 4: of like the Weezer song, you don't listen to Weezer? Good?

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Speaker 2: You wanna end up in the sun? Have you seen Aquamarine?

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Speaker 2: I Ever, we'll talk about this ever.

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Speaker 4: So number four, she got upset about the hypocriticalness of

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Speaker 4: all of it. While she had to be fully open

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Speaker 4: to me, but she says, I never showed her the

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Speaker 4: same courtesy and always complained at her about my privacy.

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Speaker 2: I had my phone pass code.

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Speaker 4: I would get upset if she did the same, and

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Speaker 4: I'd get angry with her if she went into my

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Speaker 4: computer or email for any reason, even if it was

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Speaker 4: Bill related. She said what really made her not want

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Speaker 4: to work on it was some of the following, Well, buddy, M,

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Speaker 4: I hate this guy.

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Speaker 2: She felt no support for me at all before the test.

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Speaker 4: She would come over every other day and talk to me,

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Speaker 4: to work on it in the beginning. She said my

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Speaker 4: I'm changing this. You're not listening to Weezer anymore. You're

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Speaker 3: I don't know that one either. I know either, especially.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to all the folks who know about that.

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Speaker 2: You don't deserve any privacy. You've been on Tinder.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you've abused your privacy, sir, taken advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: Wife is just a sweety pie for not you know,

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Speaker 4: But other condition is personal therapy. As well as the

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Speaker 4: This is one of the most like nonsensical.

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Speaker 5: Like at first he was like, I feel so bad

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Speaker 2: Yeah, girl, huh.

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Speaker 4: Op falls asleep every night in a hyperbaric chamber that

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Speaker 3: That is accurate.

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Speaker 4: Relevant comments Meg Meg Gusta E. Lazul says, I'm shocked

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine why she's willing to work on this marriage,

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Speaker 2: Let her go for her sake.

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Speaker 4: Op said, she hasn't told me she was keeping contact

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Speaker 4: the butt. Opie says, she said she's willing to because

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Speaker 2: Exactly. This is only because she must be for her daughter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: As someone who has a daughta. She agreed.

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Speaker 4: Deleted user replies, you left out the stuff about being

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Speaker 2: You deserve your privacy. You're either a piece of work

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Speaker 2: all this energy into being a good dad. Don't be

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Speaker 2: so effing self involved in selfish Oh, he says, I

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Speaker 5: She didn't leave the relationship. Boy, she left the house

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Speaker 5: because you sucked. You don't deserve this woman. I guess you.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: Whether or not you could be a good dad remains

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, completely.

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Speaker 4: Incapable of even taking a step outside of your own bubble.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was so close to figuring out remorse, and

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Speaker 4: And then he's like, yeah, but she'll come back anyway

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it's like, I'm good, but it actually I

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Speaker 3: Actually that's probably what it is.

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Speaker 2: Crazy.

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Speaker 4: Well, Raccoon Grinn says, you don't go on dates when

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, we're getting in the new sauce territory.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: I realize now I'm not exactly someone you want to

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Speaker 4: sympathize with, and I'm sorry. I do love Marissa and

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Speaker 2: We attempted to talk it through with her, laying out

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Speaker 4: I still feel I did not cheat on her because

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Speaker 4: We agreed to try another therapy session, but Tuesday morning

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry I didn't cheat because when you left, like

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Speaker 5: like if you didn't say that, So how would I know?

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Speaker 2: How would I know? It was just?

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Speaker 3: I mean you like our marriage vows. No, I didn't clarify.

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Speaker 5: You gotta remind me every single day actually that I

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Speaker 4: You were just you were just with the not op

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Speaker 4: just ad No.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's still not cheating though, right because she walked away

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Speaker 2: Why yatta?

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Speaker 4: She just wanted to rebuild her trust in me, so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's wrong with that. That's not cheating, that's just me.

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Speaker 2: I'm giving her space.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh so she canceled it and filed for divorce.

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Speaker 3: Probably.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 4: We had dinner that night and she told me she

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Speaker 4: And by the way, we have an on site daycare

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Speaker 4: where you can listen to full episodes of stories just

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Speaker 4: like this. It's on Spotify, it's on iHeartRadio, it's on

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Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts, it's wherever you listen to podcasts. All you

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Speaker 4: have to do is search the name of our show. Okay, Storytime,

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Speaker 4: You've got the whole archive. Oh yeah, you did, Tipsy

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Speaker 4: had little fingies. Oh yeah, you do. Fingle No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: fit there, don't sue SKFC. I didn't mean to say that. Please,

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Speaker 2: Clearly we're all glad that this guy is. I mean,

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Speaker 3: He just doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't care about other people. He only wants

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Speaker 5: And he's trying so hard instead of just being sorry

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Speaker 7: It's like he's just just just enough to be like,

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Speaker 7: I did do something, but I'm not admitting I did

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Speaker 7: the thing very clearly did, which was go on dates

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's antithetical to that, right right? Yeah, So this.

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Speaker 4: Is like a man baby my goodness, not ready to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would bet that he wouldn't be a good

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Speaker 4: I think you've said this whole time, Pie, but she

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Speaker 4: I gave her a check for the amount in the alimony.

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Speaker 4: Anything else we can think of. I know there's no

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Speaker 4: until next December at least.

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Speaker 2: That is the end of that story. Buddy, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know you, I don't fully know you, but based on

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Speaker 4: you can do is just, like, you know, send the money, yeah, Facetimer,

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Speaker 4: because it really doesn't even sound like you want to

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Speaker 4: be there. You're like, you're still like, well, she and

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Speaker 4: she said it was, you know, moving there to be closer.

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Speaker 2: To our child, not so we can get back together.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, are you not?

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Speaker 4: Are you not immediately like, wait, she's gonna move a

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Wait, that's gonna make things way harder for me. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm locked into a least contract until December. Hey, dummy,

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Speaker 4: you you could break those especially you literally are like

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Speaker 4: I'm making a comparable amount of money to my ex wife, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: who makes more than enough money to provide for herself

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Speaker 4: enough to be close to your daughter to do that.

441
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

442
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 5: Like, I think the best thing that you could do

443
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 5: is send money, maybe visit on like weekends to like

444
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 5: take care of the daughter or something like that. Take

445
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 5: out a little daddy daughter like trip or something I

446
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 5: don't know, and then that's it.

447
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 3: Just leave it there.

448
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 4: I think the best thing you could really do is

449
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 4: go to a go to therapy, really open your mom

450
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 4: to the possibility that there are things you could seriously

451
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 4: change to better yourself. Yeah, and the people around you

452
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 4: get to a point.

453
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 5: Where you could admit that that is cheating, right, you

454
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 5: need you mess up.

455
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 4: If you can actually get real positive change in your life,

456
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 4: that's the best thing you could do for your daughter.

457
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 4: Right now, you're not. But anyways, that's the end of

458
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 4: that freaking story exactly. We're gonna roll right on into

459
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 4: the next one.

460
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 3: To the next one.

461
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 2: Are you ready for this one? By the way, this

462
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: is like a four K and a half.

463
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. Let's freaking do it.

464
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 5: I think my wife is cheating on me, but I

465
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 5: don't have enough proofs.

466
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: You shouldn't think your wife's cheating on you.

467
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 5: My wife and I have met when we were both

468
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 5: in college, but we were both working part time and

469
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,880
Speaker 5: going to school full time, and met while we were

470
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 5: on lunch break from our jobs. I thought that she

471
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 5: was very, very pretty, so I went to eat there again,

472
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 5: hoping to see her again. She came up to me

473
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,479
Speaker 5: and started talking to me the next time we were

474
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 5: both there, and I was sure that she was interested,

475
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 5: so I asked her out. We quickly started dating, and

476
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 5: after a couple of years we got married. When we met,

477
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 5: I was just finishing school and the company I was

478
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 5: working for part time offered me a full time management position.

479
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from a throwaway a worried

480
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 5: dummy and if you want to submit your own stories,

481
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 5: go to the ur slush Okay storytime.

482
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 3: It sepredd it.

483
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 5: So my now wife was still in school and I

484
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 5: was paying for her college one hundred percent.

485
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: Dang.

486
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 5: I actually started paying for her college shortly after we

487
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 5: became a couple, because she came from a very large

488
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 5: family and they couldn't afford to help her, and working

489
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 5: part time, she didn't have a lot either, and I

490
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 5: was then working full time, so I paid for her schooling.

491
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 5: And this is important later Take notes, everybody. She is

492
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 5: very smart, brilliant, graduated with honors, and after a couple

493
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 5: of not so great jobs, got a real good professional

494
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 5: job that she stayed at for many years, making good

495
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 5: money with very good benefits. During our dating years and

496
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 5: our early marriage, we had a great spicy sleep life.

497
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 5: We didn't have spicy sleep every single day, but when

498
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 5: we did it, it was a wild and sometimes a

499
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 5: very spicy. I was fairly popular in high school, captain

500
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 5: of the football team and college.

501
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 3: I was in good.

502
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 5: Shape, ran half marathons, et cetera. I guess I did

503
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 5: okay with the ladies and had a number of partners

504
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 5: and one long term girlfriend at the time. Or that

505
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 5: got a little spicy. Why why is this guy trying

506
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 5: a humble brag? Right?

507
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:17,719
Speaker 3: Actually?

508
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, in my school, I guess I was cool. I

509
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: was captain of the football team.

510
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 5: It's like really cool high school, and that we're past

511
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 5: college and I'm married.

512
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: You had to it.

513
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 4: This is something I've been pretty freaking cool in high

514
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 4: school to warrant, still flexing about it.

515
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

516
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 5: I don't know who was captain of our football team.

517
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 5: Our football team, clearly, yes, clearly, they weren't that cool.

518
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 4: Our water polo team went crazy, though, Yeah, stay champed.

519
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: Like every year.

520
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 3: Nice anyway.

521
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 5: My wife, however, was much much more experienced than I am.

522
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 5: She was younger than me, but had many more partners

523
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 5: and had done much more than I had in spicy sleep.

524
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 5: She liked to party and go a little wild when

525
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 5: she partied, so she had a bit of a well

526
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 5: earned reputation.

527
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 3: I found out about all of this from a mutual

528
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 3: friend right from the start, and I was good with it.

529
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: If anything, it made me like her all the more.

530
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 5: Early in our relationship, she would always tell me how

531
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 5: good I was and how I was the first person

532
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 5: that cared about her needs and.

533
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 4: Got her Yeah, like a like you know, a switch.

534
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 4: They're electricians. I'm starting this as a recurring bit now, Okay,

535
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: whenever people start talking about they get a little spicy,

536
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 4: like a little whoop talking about turning things on and

537
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 4: off as electrician talk right there.

538
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that always made me feel good, and to this

539
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 5: day I always make sure that she is satisfied before me.

540
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 5: Fairly average in all ways, so I always felt the

541
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: need to put in maximum effort to make sure that

542
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 5: my partner wanted me and wouldn't stray thinking that they

543
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 5: could get better spicy sleep from someone else.

544
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: Fuirly average in all ways, except for being the captainal

545
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: football team and having been pretty built in college and

546
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: you know all the ladies I used to be with.

547
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 5: Except for that, except for that, sure, I'm a little

548
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 5: insecure there. After a few years of marriage, decided to

549
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 5: pursue a dream of starting my own sports team, and

550
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 5: it was a real struggle to get things off the ground.

551
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 5: My wife helped me every single step of the way,

552
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 5: and to make things even more interesting, we bought a

553
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 5: big house.

554
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: At the same time.

555
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 5: We were both working on our regular jobs and now

556
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 5: working to get this new business going. I probably didn't

557
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 5: get more than four hours of sleep a night for

558
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 5: the next twenty years. Dang, and that's not an exaggeration.

559
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 5: Money was pretty tight at this time because of all

560
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 5: the time that I was spending with my new team.

561
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 5: I changed jobs a few times and was putting a

562
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 5: lot of my own money into the team.

563
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: To build it up.

564
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 5: My wife was bringing home more money than me, and

565
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 5: there were a few arguments about money and how much

566
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 5: I was spending, but all in all we were rock solid.

567
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 3: She was my best friend, wife, and lover.

568
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 5: The team travels to events every weekend during the season,

569
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 5: and probably ninety percent of the time, my wife traveled

570
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 5: with me and was.

571
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: By my side all the time.

572
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 5: Before we had kids, some events weren't far from home,

573
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 5: so I would be home late that night. Even if

574
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 5: she didn't go, this meant that I missed a lot

575
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 5: of family and friend occasions. She went to many family

576
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 5: and friends' weddings and things so low. She even took

577
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 5: a few trips with her single friends to the beach

578
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 5: for a week to hang out and relax.

579
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: She loves the beach.

580
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 5: Shortly after our fifth winning anniversary, I was looking for

581
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 5: some team pictures. My wife told me to look into

582
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 5: drawers in a spare room. I've found pictures of her

583
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 5: bachelorette party. I have a feeling this is where things

584
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 5: are going to start to go south.

585
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: Uh oh, what is.

586
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: This freaking timeline? Five years after their marriage? But you'd

587
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 4: been working for twenty years and only sleeping four hours

588
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 4: a day, made you have kids. Yeah, time, it makes

589
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 4: no sense right now.

590
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 5: Maybe the twenty years was just like it was just

591
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 5: like not important to this actual story. That's just like

592
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: a side note of how much he works.

593
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 4: Right.

594
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 5: We had talked about it after and she had told

595
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 5: me about all the drinking and dancing and flirting with

596
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 5: some guys, and it was pretty innocent and tame. My

597
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 5: bachelor party was pretty wild and some of the wildest

598
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 5: things were done by her brothers. So I was a

599
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 5: fairly good boy and wasn't worried about hers at all. Well,

600
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 5: the pictures that painted a little bit of a different picture.

601
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 5: Her maid of honor brought her a spicy dancer and

602
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 5: was nice enough to take pictures so she'd remember the night.

603
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: I guess there was a lot of.

604
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 5: Booze, and the pictures showed the spicy dancer doing his

605
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 5: thing and my wife grinding on him.

606
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: Having a good time.

607
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 5: Oh boy, The last photo showed him completely unclothed standing

608
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 5: in front of her. She still had her clothes.

609
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: On, but with her hand wrapped around is junk.

610
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's not part of the process.

611
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: Ros I was just like, what the F.

612
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 5: I took the photos and immediately showed them to her

613
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 5: and asked what the f. She said that she didn't

614
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 5: tell me about the spicy's dancer because she didn't want

615
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: me to get jealous. And then all her friends were

616
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 5: egging her on to touch him, and she was quite wasted,

617
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 5: so she did.

618
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: But that doesn't explain why you've kept them in the drawer.

619
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: What do you go? Look at them?

620
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 7: Like?

621
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: Ah, the last time I was really happy, Like, well,

622
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 4: that's kind of weird.

623
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: So weird.

624
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I would want to forget about that if

625
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 5: I really felt bad about it, like what she swore.

626
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 3: Up and down that that was all that happened, And.

627
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 5: Since I had done about the same at my party

628
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 5: the same night, I didn't think that I could be

629
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 5: two piss. I was really only mad that she didn't

630
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 5: tell me about it. She knew exactly what happened at mine,

631
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 5: and all her brothers told her. This did let me

632
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: know that she could do something and leave out details

633
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 5: when she told me and not feel that she was

634
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: lying at all. It always left and nagging a little

635
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 5: doubt in my head about those beach trips and if

636
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 5: she was completely honest about them.

637
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: Uh oh okay.

638
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 4: So that's why I was mentioning the timeline as he

639
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: talked about wording for twenty years and he's like five

640
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 4: years into our marriage, so I'm like, how is this

641
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 4: about to be the cheating part?

642
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: But it wasn't.

643
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: That was just the seed that planted. That was the

644
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 4: moment where this seed of doubt was planted.

645
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. Fast forward a few years and things were

646
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 5: greatly improving. We waited to have kids because we wanted

647
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 5: to be able to provide for them properly. My sports

648
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: team had really started to take off and was starting

649
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 5: to make us money instead.

650
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: Of costing us money.

651
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: Sports team.

652
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he was doing this whole time. That's

653
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: his business, he said team.

654
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: I thought he meant like a sales team.

655
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: No, no, he said sports team.

656
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh wow.

657
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: I know.

658
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: Maybe being the captain to the football.

659
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: Team is paying off.

660
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does he?

661
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: I know. I'm like, which, how does.

662
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 4: That just kart playing in that weird baseball league? Geon,

663
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 4: what is that? What is that called? Oh, the We're

664
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 4: the Bananas, the Banana Bananas. But yeah, but that's that

665
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: can't be his lead, right, No, No, No, he's probably

666
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 4: talking about like some weird adult league. Are he's playing

667
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: like a rec football league.

668
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 3: As possible, But they're making money.

669
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: So we both had good jobs and we decided that

670
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 5: it was time to have kids. We had two children

671
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 5: four years apart, and everything was going. A great sports

672
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 5: team was really taking off, winning championships, awards, et cetera.

673
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 5: I started to become a little bit of a local celebrity.

674
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 5: Everyone knew who I was.

675
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 3: I was doing TV interviews.

676
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 5: Radio, et cetera. Just local and regional stuff. Nothing big time,

677
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 5: but things were going great. In fact, between my two

678
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: children's births, my wife and I were having the most

679
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: spiciest lead that we ever had in our relationship. Wild

680
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 5: crazy times, so we both seemed to enjoy very much.

681
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: There was even some Internet stuff, and she was the star.

682
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 5: Remember she is a very, very pretty and a bit

683
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 5: spicy too. Okay, Yes, ended a few years ago at

684
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 5: her request. These are probably the best days of my life.

685
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: It is also very important to note that even though

686
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: we were having some wild times, it was.

687
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: Just the two of us.

688
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 5: We had talked about ever fooling around, and both of

689
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 5: us completely agreed that it was a one hundred percent

690
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 5: deal breaker.

691
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: She told me if I ever cheated.

692
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: We were done. End of story.

693
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: We were still very close, but I have found out

694
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 5: very recently that after our second child was born that

695
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 5: this is when she started resenting the sports team. She

696
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: has now told me that it bothered her that I

697
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 5: was getting all the attention, awards, et cetera, after she

698
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: had done so much work and sacrificed so much to

699
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 5: get things going. I really didn't see it at the time.

700
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: Hang in there.

701
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: The part where I need your help is coming soon.

702
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 5: Now we have children and she can't or doesn't want

703
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 5: to bring them to all our events, so she starts

704
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 5: traveling with the team less and less. I swear that

705
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 5: I always ask her to go, as I really want

706
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 5: her there with me. Fast forward a few more years

707
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 5: and my wife's father passes away. They were very close

708
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: and she and he was very protective of his baby girl.

709
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: Side note, he.

710
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 5: Didn't like me at all at first, but warmed up

711
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 5: to me, and I really liked him and respected him

712
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 5: a lot. After a short period of time, my wife

713
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 5: announces that she is quitting her job and going back

714
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: to school to change careers and follow in her father's footsteps.

715
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: Okay, she's having her MJ moment.

716
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a little worried because that means I have

717
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 5: to pay for her to go to college again, take

718
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 5: care of two young kids, work my regular job, and

719
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: run my team too.

720
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: As she will be returning to school full time.

721
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 5: I really wanted to support her though, because of how

722
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 5: much I knew it meant to her and all of

723
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: the support that.

724
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: She had given me starting my team.

725
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 5: She went summer's nights, et cetera to get done as

726
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 5: fast as she could, and I made it work as

727
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 5: best as I could the kids and I look back

728
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 5: at these times and really think it was fun. Me

729
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: picking them up from daycare, cooking me microwaving the kid's cuisine,

730
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 5: and them tagging along too nights with the team. Things

731
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 5: seem to be going great. Fast forward to a few

732
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: years ago, and we're doing so well that I say

733
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 5: I want to take her away for a week to

734
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 5: her favorite beach for a week, just the two of

735
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: us as a second honeymoon. We didn't have a lot

736
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 5: of money for our first one, so it wasn't so great,

737
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 5: and I wanted to make up to her. It went great.

738
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 5: She loved the beach, and we made love more than

739
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: we did on our first honeymoon. And that's when things

740
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: seems to start going bad.

741
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: Okay, he say, I'm your ogi host here, bring it

742
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: back to the stories. But here's three minutes bads from

743
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Speaker 1: our sponsored.

744
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Speaker 5: After that trip, even though the kids were older, she

745
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 5: didn't want to travel with the team anymore. She started

746
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: wanting to take a trip every summer to the beach

747
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 5: right in the middle of my season.

748
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: When she knew I couldn't go, she.

749
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: Said that I could come if I want, but she's

750
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 5: going either way. She said that she was tired of

751
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 5: missing out, and since we were doing so well, we

752
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 5: could afford it, and she was going. She would take

753
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 5: the kids and usually invite some of her family along.

754
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 5: But it still makes me feel bad. She didn't get

755
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: to go this year, but has already told me that

756
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 5: she's going next year without me. Again, I don't think

757
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 5: that she's meeting anyone on these trips, but I still

758
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 5: don't think it's a good thing.

759
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: So let me just pause real quick, because I actually

760
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 4: have direct insight into this in my own family. Oh really,

761
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: because my I mean, my dad didn't create his own

762
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: sports league or whatever.

763
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: The heck's going on here.

764
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like my dad played like men's league baseball.

765
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 4: Oh well, you used to play softball real casually, and

766
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: then when he started playing men's league ball like you play,

767
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 4: it was real competitive. They were competing well, and my

768
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: mom just like did not care. She's just like, why

769
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: do I want to You're not my kid. I'm not

770
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: going to go watch you play baseball for the eight

771
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: hundredth time I've watched you play baseball. Yeah, now I

772
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: want to. I want to do more fun things that

773
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: are more fun than that to spend time differently, right,

774
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: because it's not as fun to me maybe, Op, it's

775
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: not as fun for your wife maybe to just follow

776
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: you around while you play sports. Yeah, because you've been

777
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: doing it for a long time at this point.

778
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: True.

779
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: And she's just like, I want to get the beach, dude.

780
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

781
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: And I wonder like what she's able to do on

782
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 5: these trips because it's not just like a game that

783
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: she's going to.

784
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: She's going on full trips to people, and she's bringing

785
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: her your your kids, and her parents. Do you really

786
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: think she's cheating on you exactly on a family trip.

787
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking.

788
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: After she built an entire life and business with you,

789
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: I would get it if you were.

790
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know.

791
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: She's like icing me out and like she's been acting differently,

792
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: and she's like I have somewhat some kind of proof, right,

793
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: you got an Offen?

794
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think so, man, I

795
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: don't know.

796
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 6: Also, Op just is giving me the true jock guy

797
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 6: where he's like all bron no brain, and he's like

798
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 6: he just likes to talk about from what we've got

799
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 6: from the story, he just likes to talk about himself

800
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 6: and like he's like, yeah, we have some crazy spicy sleeve.

801
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that also seems to be like a huge value

802
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: of hits in the relationship.

803
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: But I get it being important, but like at the

804
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 5: same time, it's like, I don't know, it seems like

805
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 5: it's like possibly more important than some other things to him.

806
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying all jocks are like small brain,

807
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: but like he's like like muscle muscle out of sports

808
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: and like hustle, testosterone, workout, pump iron.

809
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that kind of thing.

810
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh dude, you know what great comment here by Hey, listen,

811
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: you flip it around.

812
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: What is Op doing on team trips without her?

813
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: It's like it's the same thing.

814
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 4: Kim fine, and also says she might be bringing her

815
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: parents so they can watch the kids and she can

816
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: go sneak off do whatever.

817
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: True, Like your parents could like know what's going on.

818
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: You know how how many scenarios we can cook up

819
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 4: in hear that are completely wrong but feel completely right.

820
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you gott.

821
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 6: To gather more information if you're suspicious, and to go

822
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 6: off to Kodi's thing. My godfather was a major league

823
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 6: pitching coach and like when we want to go visit

824
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 6: him and they had home games. We would go to

825
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 6: maybe one or two games, but his family like we

826
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 6: would come to and like we get even like really

827
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 6: good seats and go inside the clubhouse. After like you've

828
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 6: done that two or three times, you're like, we're gonna

829
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 6: go hang out and go do something to some other

830
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 6: stuff like we don't have Like it's great to see

831
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 6: you and I know you love our like you love

832
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 6: and see our support.

833
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: Come on, go to every single one, go to everyone. Yeah, yeah,

834
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: why doesn't she want to look at me? Catch the ball?

835
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 5: As the last few years have played out, she seems

836
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 5: to resent my team more and more. She comes around

837
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: the team so little that even friends ask, what's up.

838
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: If you've stayed with me for this long? And the

839
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: novel is coming to an end.

840
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 5: About two years ago, she starts talking about a new

841
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 5: coworker a lot.

842
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see where this is going.

843
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 5: She tells me how smart he is and all the

844
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 5: new ideas he has, and how they have become friends

845
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: very quickly, which is unusual as she hasn't made friends

846
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 5: with her coworkers that much. I'm really getting bad vibes

847
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 5: from this right from the start. Then her company is

848
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 5: having a big company outing taking a bus trip to

849
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 5: a big city for a fancy dinner and show, and

850
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 5: spouses are invited.

851
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: I go partially just so I can meet this guy.

852
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 5: He's bigger than me, around six to two, and he's

853
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: pretty fat and out of shape. But it's obvious to

854
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 5: me the way he looks at my wife that he

855
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 5: likes her. I ask her about him when we're alone,

856
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 5: and she says that they're just friends and for me

857
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 5: not to worry, just look at him, she says. I

858
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 5: can never be attracted to someone like that. That I

859
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 5: think is.

860
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: The worst way to reassure someone.

861
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 5: I feel like so many people jump to that like

862
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 5: as like no, no, babe, Like oh, this person is

863
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 5: so ugly and their their body looks.

864
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: Terrible and like all this stuff, How could I ever

865
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: want them?

866
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 5: It's like, well, that's me because bodies changed. What if

867
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 5: my body eventually looks like that? Are you gonna hate me?

868
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: Like what?

869
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: It's so not as helpful as people think it is.

870
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 4: What's a shame to me is that buddy is right there,

871
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: he's almost he's at the door, and he's still not

872
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: looking at the right way.

873
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, and I got bad vibes from that.

874
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: It's like, well, you should have done as you should

875
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 4: have been Like, and I woke up and I realized

876
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 4: I'm not the only man on earth that exists. And

877
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 4: if I stay exactly the same and never change, while

878
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: my wife continues to grow and develop as a person

879
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: does until the day they stop breathing, Yeah.

880
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

881
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like you've just been stuck in the

882
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: exact same place you guys are at when you guys

883
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: started twenty years ago, and you have not really fundamentally

884
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: changed the way you operate. She was probably hoping, like, yeah,

885
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 4: we build the team, then you become like the GM

886
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: or the CEO, and then you don't have to go

887
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: every game.

888
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we can have a life together it We're good.

889
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 5: You know, you don't have to only sleep four hours

890
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 5: for for this to work well. On the bus ride home,

891
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 5: she asks me not to sit next to her so

892
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 5: she can stretch out and fall asleep as it's close.

893
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: To one A.

894
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that seems reasonable.

895
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: Honestly, it pissed me off because I figured that she'd

896
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 5: have a coworker sitting with her in noe time. She

897
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 5: doesn't for most of the trip, about four hours, but

898
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: for the last half hour he comes up and sits next.

899
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: To her and they talk the rest of the way home.

900
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: Of course, I ask what they were talking about, and

901
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 5: she says it's a work project coming.

902
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: Up and that they will be working on together.

903
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 5: Of course, my spidy senses are going crazy, but I've

904
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: gotten no proof anything is going on. Things actually seem

905
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 5: to cool off for a little while, as I think

906
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 5: they both have other big projects that keep them apart.

907
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 5: But I'm not sure at all about it. One thing

908
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 5: is for sure. She stops sleeping with me. She says

909
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: that it's my snoring, and I do snore. I offer

910
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 5: to sleep in another room so she doesn't have to

911
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 5: sleep on the couch. So now we're sleeping in separate rooms.

912
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: Let's call that red flag number three. But I'm not

913
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: really counting. Sounds like you are.

914
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: Literally counting, though, and that is a red flag. But

915
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: like it can be because of your snoring. Like I

916
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: I know again, people who can't sleep next to each

917
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: other because one of them is just constantly waking the

918
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: other up. Yeah, and it's like, so you got to

919
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: address that. I guess gotta Yeah, that can change over

920
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: twenty years too. You may maybe you didn't used to

921
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: snore to the you know, to the decibel volume of

922
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: a fighter jet, but now you do soact but it

923
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 4: gets worse.

924
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 5: The spicy sleep stops shortly thereafter two giant red flag.

925
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 5: He says she always wanted spicy sleep, but now says

926
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 5: that medical things are bothering her, the kids might hear,

927
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: or a thousand and one other excuses why she doesn't

928
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 5: want to anymore.

929
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 3: I've tried to talk to her about this a number

930
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: of times and it never goes well.

931
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 5: I try and keep my cool, but I have asked

932
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 5: if there is something else, because I figure if she

933
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: isn't getting it from me, she's getting it from someone else.

934
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 5: Looking back, I wish I didn't say that then then

935
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 5: maybe she would have let her guard down.

936
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 4: But if brother, if that's the way you think, then

937
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: now are you going to start getting it from someone else?

938
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: Because she's not sleeping with So what are you talking about?

939
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: Exactly?

940
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: Like? Where's your This guy like is oblivious to the

941
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: fact that his wife might just not be attracted to

942
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 4: him right now because of the way he's acting. True,

943
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: because of the way he conducts himself. His wife is like, man,

944
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 4: I'm just like not at all into my husband right now.

945
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: And if you talk to people who've been married for

946
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: like ever, that does happen, it's like there will be

947
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 4: time and it's like, you know what you do about that,

948
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 4: you have a conversation about it. Yeah, but it sounds

949
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 4: like his conversation is, so, who are you cheating on

950
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: me with? And she's going, this complete idiot, can't even

951
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: see that he could do anything wrong.

952
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: He's the golden man. Yeah, and too like it's I

953
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 5: don't know how old they are? Do we have can

954
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: you try to find ages if we have it? But

955
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 5: I've also heard you know, like when you get older

956
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 5: you lose hormones, and so you might just not be

957
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 5: that interested and spicely but all either yeah, as much.

958
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: You know, what are her medical issues?

959
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 4: Are you just like completely discounting that, yeah, because that

960
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 4: sounds like a balad? How old are your kids now?

961
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 4: Are your kids old enough to be like are mom

962
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: and dad fighting? Right?

963
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

964
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: Run in there on like op is fifty and Ope's

965
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: wife forty eight?

966
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, see I feel like that's a reasonable age

967
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: to like lose your hormones.

968
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 4: Your wife has been waiting for you to change your

969
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 4: business model for twenty years and you have not.

970
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: You are This is exactly what.

971
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad playing baseball because it's games, it's practice,

972
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 4: it's team meetings.

973
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so much. It's all encompassing, right right.

974
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 5: Anyway, about a month or so ago, one night, about

975
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 5: at midnight, her phone starts blowing up. She used to

976
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 5: leave it downstairs the night to charge, and I was

977
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 5: going to be sleeping downstairs that night. I got lucky

978
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 5: and figured out her pass word, and of course coworker

979
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 5: is the one texting her. I stayed up the entire

980
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 5: night reading their texts and going through her phone. It

981
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 5: was a Friday night, so I didn't have to be

982
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 5: at work the next morning, but we did have a

983
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 5: team event, but I didn't really care. He was texting

984
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: how much he missed her and hoped that they would

985
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 5: see each other soon. There were missing texts in the

986
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 5: conversations when things were getting more heated, and it was

987
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 5: obvious from the conversations that it seems like there were

988
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 5: phone calls and things missing as well. Like I said

989
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 5: from the start, she is a very smart woman and

990
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 5: you could tell that she was trying to hide certain things.

991
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 5: There were tons of I love yous, way more than

992
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 5: I've heard in the past few years. Lots of I

993
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 5: miss yous, I miss your hugs, blowing kisses, emojis, and

994
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 5: a lot more, some selfies, a company things together, saying

995
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 5: how cute they are on and off.

996
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 4: So this is fifteen years worth of stuff essentially. Well,

997
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: I don't know this happened five years into marriage.

998
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: Do we remember what? Dingus? Spot, how long has the

999
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: couple been married? Come on, come on, dingus. Well, but no,

1000
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: he's wrong, he's wrong. He's wrong.

1001
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 6: They've been together for twenty five So they've been together

1002
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 6: for twenty five years.

1003
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 5: Okay, but I think this coworker stuff started happening a

1004
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: little bit more recently.

1005
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: I don't think that it happened. I remember exactly. It

1006
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 4: was five years into their marriage. Really, that was when

1007
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: he was like, and I went on this thing with

1008
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: a work e edge just so I could meet that guy.

1009
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: Oh that was only five That was five years into

1010
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: their marriage. Dang man. So now they're like.

1011
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: At today and he's maybe finding out that.

1012
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this whole time, it's been kind of like, okay,

1013
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 5: like you know, I don't know.

1014
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, but like, this isn't you don't have

1015
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: enough proof? This is this is proof.

1016
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: I think.

1017
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 5: I think now we're getting somewhere who had Wait a minute,

1018
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 5: Kim find says he paid for a college? Are you

1019
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 5: talking about the coworker or op op.

1020
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 4: Oh paid for Okay, I just wanted to I just

1021
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure because I was like, well that yeah, okay. Anyway, Yeah,

1022
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 4: I think we might just be everyone sucks here because

1023
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 4: maybe your wife did cheat on you, and maybe you

1024
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: were so oblivious to the fact that you could have

1025
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: a flaw that you just allowed your marriage to decompose.

1026
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's possible, I guess.

1027
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: But I don't think we can blame him for like

1028
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 5: her cheating though, because it feels like that's what we're figuring.

1029
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, everyone sucks here.

1030
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 4: It's not his fault that she cheated, but it would

1031
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 4: be his fault that he's so absent in his marriage

1032
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: that his wife lost all feeling for him, because if

1033
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 4: you don't show up, you can't just expect it. And again,

1034
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: that doesn't give her the right to cheat. So why

1035
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: everyone sucks here?

1036
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1037
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 4: But it does explain why she's like, man, I just

1038
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 4: want nothing to do with my husband. I don't like

1039
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: him he does maybe whatever.

1040
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, maybe they are just problems in the marriage.

1041
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: Anyway, I guarantee you this guy's leaving stuff out.

1042
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: The only thing is there is not any actual talk

1043
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 5: of having spiced sleep or proof of an actual physical affair. Obviously,

1044
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 5: it looks like there's one going on to me. She

1045
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 5: has the time as I work a lot and spend

1046
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 5: time with the team, and I think she thinks that's

1047
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 5: the motive. There's been a ton of other red flags

1048
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 5: that I think I chose to ignore until now. She's

1049
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 5: had to work late a lot the last year or so,

1050
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 5: there were a couple of trips for work. She's all

1051
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 5: of a sudden started drinking and it's quite a bit

1052
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: every night, and many other things. I guess my fear

1053
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 5: of losing everything I've worked so hard for kept me

1054
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 5: from blowing this up sooner.

1055
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: Blowing this up is that what you're gonna be like, Hey,

1056
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: I feel like there's a problem with our marriage.

1057
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: That's not blowing it up. That's trying to address your issues.

1058
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, trying to be like, hey, like do you are

1059
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: we maybe not in a good place right now. Yeah,

1060
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: but I don't feel like you can well, I think

1061
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like you can step outside of yourself

1062
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: to have that conversation.

1063
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 5: Maybe he's blowing this up as like like exposing her

1064
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 5: and like causing like starting that fight.

1065
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I don't know.

1066
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 5: But the day after I went in her phone, I

1067
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: asked my oldest child if the coworker was married, don't

1068
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 5: involve the children.

1069
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: Ah, I thought, I'm so selfish. She's getting his kids

1070
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 4: involved now, Yeah, so selfish.

1071
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: I thought he was.

1072
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 5: And my oldest has had an internship in my wife's

1073
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 5: company before the lockdown happened, so I figured they would know.

1074
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: They asked why, and I made up some lie about

1075
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 5: seeing him on Facebook with no wife, and I thought

1076
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 5: he had a wife, said child immediately went to my

1077
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 5: wife and told her that I was asking about the coworker.

1078
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1079
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: Oh man.

1080
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 5: Wife then came storming into my office and screamed at

1081
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 5: me about looking through her phone.

1082
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: She instantly knew why I would ask that. I guess.

1083
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 5: I'm sure I must have sent off a bunch of

1084
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 5: other signs that I was wondering if something was going on.

1085
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, brother.

1086
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: She's probably upset, mostly that you involved your kid.

1087
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 3: Yeah that, yeah, why are.

1088
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: You doing that? Anyway?

1089
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 5: She went through all the things that cheaters usually do.

1090
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 5: She denied everything I took screenshots, so she only admitted

1091
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 5: to what I had proof of, which wasn't much. She

1092
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 5: blamed me for invading her privacy, blamed me for a

1093
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 5: lot of other stuff too, basically turning it around that

1094
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 5: I drove her to seek this close emotional friendship.

1095
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: With him, but that's all that it was.

1096
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 5: I knew that I didn't have any proof of anything else,

1097
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 5: so I said that I wasn't accusing her of anything,

1098
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 5: but she had to agree that it looked pretty bad

1099
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 5: from my point of view and how everything was going

1100
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: between us. She got madder because I was so calm

1101
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 5: and wouldn't yell back, and.

1102
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: She stormed out.

1103
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: I looked at a lot of Reddit since then and

1104
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 5: realized just how many mistakes I've made since that blow up.

1105
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 5: She's been hiding her phone, she changed her passwords on everything,

1106
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 5: and has made sure that she's not going to let

1107
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 5: me find anything else very easily.

1108
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 4: For a half second, I was like, maybe he realizes

1109
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: the changes he needs to make about himself. But nope,

1110
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 4: he's talking about now it'll be harder for me to

1111
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 4: find evidence that she's cheating.

1112
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I get how that would be suspicious, though.

1113
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: I mean, but at this point not she's incredibly suspicious.

1114
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: She very male.

1115
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 4: She very well could be cheating. However, it doesn't feel

1116
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 4: like that. You know, you're the perfect present partner and

1117
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: that it's like, why is she doing this? Sounds like

1118
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: you've been prioritizing your team over your marriage for the

1119
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: past however many years, probably at least a decade possible,

1120
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 4: because she used to be there right with you the

1121
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: whole time she's with you, and then she's like, all right,

1122
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 4: what is this going to stop?

1123
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 2: We've been doing this for ten years.

1124
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 4: I'm pulling back. Yeah, I'm pulling back, and you just

1125
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 4: kept going and kept going and kept going. Now you're

1126
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 4: completely alone in this.

1127
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1128
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: You know, I.

1129
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 4: Guarantee you if you've been doing this for this long,

1130
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: you could pull back. But people who do sports, they

1131
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 4: love it.

1132
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like.

1133
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: You're fighting two loves that you maybe like, you love

1134
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 4: your wife and you love this sport and you love

1135
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: this team. But if you prioritize one over the other.

1136
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

1137
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: I think you prioritize the wrong one.

1138
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's possible. It's possible.

1139
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: I did ask her about this, and she tells me

1140
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 5: that I invaded her privacy.

1141
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: But if I won her phone, I can have it.

1142
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 5: I politely told her that I know how smart she

1143
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 5: is and if she wanted to hide from me, she's

1144
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 5: smart enough to figure out how.

1145
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 3: So where do I go from here? I just want

1146
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: the truth. We had one other talk, but it was

1147
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: more of the same.

1148
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 5: I don't want to lose everything, but if she's a

1149
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 5: lying cheater, I don't want that either.

1150
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: The worst part is that I still love her with

1151
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: all my.

1152
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: Heart's so smart, beautiful, a great mother to my kids,

1153
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 5: who are both brilliant like her, tops in their classes.

1154
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: I know I'm not perfect.

1155
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 5: I can be pretty intense, work a lot, and have

1156
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 5: made many mistakes, I'm sure, but I've tried really hard

1157
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 5: to give her a good life. I just want the truth,

1158
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 5: no matter if it's going to hurt or not. No

1159
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 5: half truths or trickle the truth to me. God, this sucks.

1160
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 5: Any good advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. We do

1161
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 5: have some comments.

1162
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: Hey it's Sam. We get back to the stories. But

1163
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

1164
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 5: But I don't know, I feel like everyone sucks here.

1165
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1166
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 5: My mind kind of has changed on him not gonna lie,

1167
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 5: because at first it was like, ah, come on, man,

1168
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 5: Like we just read a story about this man like

1169
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 5: accusing his wife of cheating stuff, and it's like, ah,

1170
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 5: more of the same, like yeah, you have no nothing

1171
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 5: to go off of, and you're just clearly insecure.

1172
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: But then it turns out she was cheating, so it's

1173
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: kind of like.

1174
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: Well, I mean she's is she emotionally cheating at the

1175
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: very least?

1176
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe you have enough evidence for that.

1177
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 4: But like again, it sounds like you've been like a

1178
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 4: rock like and not in like the good way, like

1179
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: you've just been like a stone, like a boulder like,

1180
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: and like, well, I mean again, does that give someone

1181
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: the justification to like cheat on you? No? I again,

1182
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: Like with the personal experience I have with this, I

1183
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: can see it exactly in my head right now, and

1184
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: it's like this guy's got probably three to four practices

1185
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 4: a week. Yeah, he's got you know, And at this point,

1186
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 4: he's been playing for so long. He's probably in a

1187
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: managerial position. So he's got a lot of paperwork stuff

1188
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 4: to do. He's got a lot of you know, league whatever,

1189
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: he's got all those responsibilities.

1190
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: He's going to he's going to you know, he's.

1191
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 4: Going to the bar afterwards, getting some Bruski's with the

1192
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: boys after the game, after practice. It is literally just

1193
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: like he never stopped being a varsity sports player from

1194
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 4: high school.

1195
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get it.

1196
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: You can want that lifestyle, but you can't be like, dang,

1197
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 4: my wife is in love with someone else. Is Maybe

1198
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 4: it's because I've completely neglected her emotional needs for a

1199
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: decade or more.

1200
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: It's possible.

1201
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if we have like enough Well, because

1202
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 5: op is telling the story, I don't think he has,

1203
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 5: like said, exact evidence of him.

1204
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: Being emotionally unavailable.

1205
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 5: I do think that's very possible, especially like for him

1206
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 5: not to be available or like not to be aware

1207
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 5: of it.

1208
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 3: He wouldn't put it in the story.

1209
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 4: Dude, he said, because his wife said I have health issues,

1210
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 4: and he goes, I think.

1211
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 2: She's just lying about that.

1212
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything everything always comes back to what his wife

1213
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 4: can do for him. Nothing about it's all selfish, all

1214
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: self because he does why doesn't.

1215
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 5: She want to be with me anymore or that to

1216
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 5: be at the trips and stuff. But he's not like

1217
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 5: he's he just wants her there for him.

1218
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 4: I guarantee you he could take that beach trip with

1219
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: her in the summer. Yeah, and just be like, I'm

1220
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: not going to be available for this week a week off.

1221
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 4: I guarantee you the team survives without him being there. Yeah,

1222
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 4: but he won't do it. Yeah, Yeah, because I know

1223
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 4: how those I mean, I don't know what support this is,

1224
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: but I know how leagues work. Yeah, this guy being

1225
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 4: gone for a vacation is not going to put everything

1226
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 4: into a screeching halt.

1227
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, there will be people, especially if it's so successful,

1228
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 5: then he should have other people that could be there to.

1229
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 4: Cover this big exactly. You've been doing this for twenty years. Yeah,

1230
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: that's all this is to me. Yeah, wife is like,

1231
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: why are we still doing this the same way we've

1232
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: been doing it?

1233
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: Right?

1234
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 5: So, Yeah, it seems like everyone does suck here, but

1235
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 5: we do have some comments. OUs Frosty says, the truth

1236
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 5: you seek is that your wife is emotionally involved with

1237
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 5: another man. She is already cheating emotionally, and yeah, there

1238
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 5: may be reasons for that, but that's the plain fact.

1239
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 5: If you want to try and save your marriage, then

1240
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 5: I would ask her if she would consider marriage counseling

1241
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 5: rather than obsessing what the relationship is also physical exactly. Yeah,

1242
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 5: if there is absolutely no way you could bear it.

1243
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 5: If she has it's physically cheating, and or your wife

1244
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 5: is not interested in counseling, then sure. If you have

1245
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: the resources, private.

1246
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: Investigator is the way to go. Opie says, thanks.

1247
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 5: I have asked her three times to go to a

1248
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 5: marriage counselor and told her that I'm willing to do

1249
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 5: whatever it takes to make things better between us, and

1250
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 5: she flat out refuses. The same commentary responds what was

1251
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 5: her reason for refusing counseling, Opie says, She said that

1252
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 5: we don't need it. We can work on any issues ourselves,

1253
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 5: to which I said, let's talk about.

1254
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 3: This right now and at least start working on us.

1255
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 5: She starts to yell that I don't trust her, et

1256
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 5: cetera each time that I've brought it up, as she

1257
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 5: gets mad and walks out, dang, we do have an update,

1258
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 5: but yeah, that is prostrating. I do wonder how he

1259
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 5: brings it up though, because, like I get it, she

1260
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 5: shouldn't like.

1261
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: Start yelling and storm out like they should have.

1262
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 5: They should both be putting effort into having like a calm,

1263
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 5: mature conversation. But I wonder how he brings it up

1264
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 5: it like to make her think like, oh, you just

1265
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 5: don't trust me, you know, because if he puts so

1266
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: much focus on like reading her texts, and then she

1267
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 5: and he's paying attention to how she's like changing her

1268
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 5: passwords and stuff, like, he's made it clear that he

1269
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 5: doesn't trust her, and he is going through her phone,

1270
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 5: so it seems like he doesn't hand to live in

1271
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 5: the best right.

1272
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: It's like he's probably being like, we need to go

1273
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 4: to marriage counseling so we can figure out.

1274
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: Why you're talking to this guy.

1275
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, instead of being like, we need to go to

1276
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: marriage counseling so that we can be better partners to

1277
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 4: each other. He's probably presenting it and it's like, yeah,

1278
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 4: we need to go to fix.

1279
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: You, yeah, to fix only you.

1280
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 5: So from how he's saying it in here, it seems

1281
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 5: like she's in the wrong for reacting that way.

1282
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: But I believe we have an unreliable narrator, but we

1283
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 3: do have an update.

1284
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 5: So part one, we've tried to stay together and work

1285
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 5: through things. A lot of things have gone a lot better.

1286
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 5: We've had more spicy sleep in the last month than

1287
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 5: in the last year, and it's been very good.

1288
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 2: After a few ken.

1289
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 6: All he talks about in their relationship is like, spicy

1290
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,479
Speaker 6: sleep is so good, dude, it's so good.

1291
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy just needs to buy himself a spicy robot

1292
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 4: and you live in a studio.

1293
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 5: Like that's his scale for how well the relationship is going.

1294
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 5: And I think that's a red flag. After a few

1295
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 5: more patches, she's given me total access to her phone

1296
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 5: and all social media. Don't need to have that. If

1297
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 5: you trust her, you're working on trust. This isn't the

1298
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 5: way to go about it. He still texts et cetera,

1299
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 5: but she only gives very short, usually one word answers.

1300
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 5: I think he's still trying, but she's keeping her answers

1301
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 5: very short, mostly just about work. So all in all,

1302
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 5: really good. Right, Well, our anniversary came and I really

1303
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 5: tried to do some nice things. Bought her favorite dessert,

1304
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 5: bought flowers, took time off from work, to deliver them

1305
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 5: to her surprise her, and she cried and cried. She

1306
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 5: said that she didn't deserve it and wouldn't stop crying.

1307
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 5: Oh man, she would not tell me what was wrong.

1308
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 5: This happened twice. Seemed like serious guilt to me, but

1309
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 5: she wouldn't tell me what was wrong, so I'm left

1310
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 5: to think the worst. She also accused me of tracking

1311
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 5: her with GPS, which I'm not.

1312
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: When she was going out to lunch with coworkers.

1313
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 5: She said that I was seen on the GPS that

1314
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 5: I'm tracking her with, so she wanted to let me

1315
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 5: know why she was going there. What she's just like

1316
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 5: going She's like, I'm going to lunch with coworkers. By

1317
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 5: the way, I know you're tracking me on a GPS

1318
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 5: with That's why I'm saying it, no other reason.

1319
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be.

1320
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 4: Sounds like you guys definitely need counseling really bad.

1321
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it's not a bad thing to let her

1322
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 5: think that I am.

1323
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: She didn't give me a chance to tell her that

1324
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: I wasn't what.

1325
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 5: I just let her comments go, But then the bomb

1326
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 5: dropped last night.

1327
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: We have a part two.

1328
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking whatever. Let she just keep going.

1329
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Part two.

1330
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 5: She has a son that she had when she was

1331
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 5: very young before we met, and gave him away to

1332
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 5: a very nice family. He wants to connect with my wife,

1333
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 5: his biological mother, and our children. She wants to tell

1334
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 5: her children about him this weekend and wants to let

1335
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: him meet his half sibling. They have zero idea that

1336
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 5: he exists.

1337
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: She said, Okay, we've.

1338
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: Pivoted so hard.

1339
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a big, big detail in this story.

1340
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: We've pivoted fully to secret child.

1341
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 4: Now.

1342
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1343
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, she showed me his picture. I had never seen

1344
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 5: him before. He apparently looks like his father because he

1345
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 5: has no similarities to my wife. She went to a

1346
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 5: family wedding last year and talked to him when I

1347
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 5: was away. They know a lot about each other's families

1348
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 5: and have been following each other through social media. She

1349
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 5: basically says that I have no say in any of this,

1350
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 5: since it's her son and I'm no relation, and it's

1351
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 5: my children's half brother. I don't know what to think anymore.

1352
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep going. I'll say later and he could

1353
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 5: advise on how to handle this new revelation would be

1354
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 5: greatly appreciated that they are relevant comments but I he

1355
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 5: said it as.

1356
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: If it was just kind of already fact.

1357
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 5: But I'm thinking he would have said like this was

1358
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 5: a surprise if it was.

1359
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: But he did say, like the bomb has been dropped

1360
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: on me.

1361
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, this was a secret child, so he did

1362
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 4: not know, secret half sibling to the two children you've had.

1363
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 5: And then conspiracy theory, this coworker that she's with is

1364
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 5: the baby. No way, conspiracy theory, no way, that's why

1365
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 5: they're so close, and to leave each.

1366
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 2: Other, no way, that it would be crazy.

1367
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be crazy?

1368
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: That would be actually the most insane twist of all time.

1369
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: That would be so wild.

1370
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 4: Only was their cheating, but they had a whole family. Yeah,

1371
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 4: or no, it wouldn't even be cheating because they would

1372
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 4: have made the family before. So then the reason he

1373
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 4: was into Op's wife is because they at one point

1374
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 4: were together.

1375
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and had a child. Who knows.

1376
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 5: Oh my god, let's find out there are some relevant comments.

1377
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 5: Every hope our future spidey ass uncle says, So, did

1378
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 5: she have an affair or not? OPI says, emotional for sure, Physically,

1379
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 5: I'm still not one hundred percent sure. She won't admit

1380
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 5: to it, but all signs point to yes, I'm treating

1381
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 5: it like it went that far.

1382
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: Proof or not. Shocking first Bullet, did you have it?

1383
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 6: I have it.

1384
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 4: It's just the same of the It is just his

1385
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 4: fixation on almost like it was like, Yeah, if she

1386
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 4: was one hundred percent emotionally cheating, I wouldn't even care.

1387
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't know about the physical. I'm going to assume

1388
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: she did.

1389
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: It's like, brother, both of those situations are catastrophic for

1390
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 4: your relationship.

1391
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I think that means how he's treating it.

1392
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know.

1393
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 5: Shocking First Bullet says, for things like this, I think

1394
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 5: the best approach is to take it slow for everyone's

1395
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 5: emotional wellbeing.

1396
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 3: Maybe you and her can take him out.

1397
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 5: For lunch one day and just spend a day getting

1398
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 5: to know him, and then the kids maybe after that.

1399
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 3: Hope. He says, he is quite a ways away, so

1400
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: it would have to.

1401
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 5: Be a planned thing to meet him. I think you're right,

1402
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 5: slow is best for everyone. This could really change how

1403
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 5: my children look at their mother. I think they always

1404
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 5: thought that she was perfect. She has been a great mother,

1405
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 5: so that will never change no matter what, even if

1406
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 5: her and my relationship changes thanks for the advice, and

1407
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 5: I want to thank you for listening to full episodes

1408
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 5: of stories just like this one on iHeartRadio Apple podcast.

1409
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1410
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 5: We've got more advice on there.

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00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 3: We belank.

1412
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, there is a little bit more to the story.

1413
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 5: So maybe my conspiracy.

1414
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: Theory isn't grogged.

1415
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 4: It's just a far away I got nothing here other

1416
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: than I maybe at the eleventh hour, the secret child

1417
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 4: will save your marriage.

1418
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like it does not sound like it.

1419
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I really I doubt it will.

1420
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 4: Sounds like this is just another layer in the complex

1421
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 4: lasagna that is your relationship, and I don't think it's

1422
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: going to add anything to the flavor profile.

1423
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 3: It's just more lies.

1424
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 5: He already doesn't trust her, and she's already lied poor

1425
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: about like the bachelorette party and stuff, and clearly.

1426
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: Lying about this emotional relationship.

1427
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: So the fact that she was about that you forgot

1428
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 4: about the bachelor the bachelor rett party, yeah, pictures. So

1429
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: it's just there's no touching, no spicy dancers, there's no touching.

1430
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: No not at all.

1431
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 5: But we do have a second update, and so to

1432
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 5: make a very long story short, we are now divorced. Well,

1433
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 5: she wouldn't stop contact with the affair partner, showed no remorse.

1434
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the emotional affair party.

1435
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Well I guess assumed a fair partner because the

1436
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 4: way she did react when he like did all that

1437
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 4: nice stuff and she's like started breaking down, Like, it

1438
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 4: was pretty clear that like she felt some level of like,

1439
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: I don't deserve this because I was doing something.

1440
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: Wrong that is pretty suspicious, which.

1441
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: Again just further's the point.

1442
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 4: Just because your partner is a completely emotionless lump who's

1443
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 4: not paying attention to you, does it give you the

1444
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: right to just be infidelitous exactly? You should just be like, hey,

1445
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 4: you're a lump. I don't like you anymore. This really

1446
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: needs to change. I'm gonna leave.

1447
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1448
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, So she showed no remorse, blame shifted never really

1449
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 5: came clean. I know in my heart that I gave

1450
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 5: it my very best to save what we had. Did

1451
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 5: I make mistakes? Yes, looking back, I of course would

1452
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 5: have done things different, but it is what it is.

1453
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: I had enough. I lost a lot in the divorce,

1454
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 3: but it had to happen. I kept home and.

1455
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 5: Teams had to give up everything else, retirement savings, et cetera.

1456
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: Whoa, but it was worth Can you go back.

1457
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 4: Like three pages? Because the way he said, what did

1458
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 4: you say I gave? I know in my heart, I

1459
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 4: gave it my very best to save what we had.

1460
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 4: I find that to be incredibly dubious.

1461
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a feeling he's maybe not the best

1462
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 5: at communicating, but I guess he was trying to.

1463
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: Go to The guy's a narcissist.

1464
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, a bit not like full on, but he's

1465
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 6: so he's so like in his own outright like pointing

1466
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 6: the finger and taking.

1467
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 4: The exactly I would put all of everything, everyone's assets, everything, trillions.

1468
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 4: I'd put it on the fact that he's left out

1469
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: this piece of information. He had set a hard line

1470
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 4: with his wife. He said, the team and me not

1471
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 4: changing everything else. We can talk about that not changing,

1472
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: and that's the thing.

1473
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: That needed to change.

1474
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: Garan freaking t you it's possible, he said, I'll never stop,

1475
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: so we can't even debate it.

1476
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: So we could work on everything else.

1477
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 4: And in his head is like, well, there's no reason

1478
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 4: we shouldn't have been able to work on everything else.

1479
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: Because it's not the team. Yeah, I guarantee you there

1480
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: really is.

1481
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 5: A lack of trying to see things from her perspective

1482
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 5: in this story.

1483
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: So I will give you that.

1484
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say as a narcissist, but I mean it's possible.

1485
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: I guess.

1486
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 4: And she's still again, still wrong for cheating, but he's

1487
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: completely not seeing that he could have had any hand

1488
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 4: in getting their relationship to a place where she like

1489
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 4: would do that.

1490
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I'm good now.

1491
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 5: Still hurts to think about it, but it gets better

1492
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 5: every day, enjoying all the things in my life. Again,

1493
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 5: my brother and his family have really been there for me.

1494
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: Thanks bro.

1495
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 5: I don't want to be too long, so if there

1496
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 5: is anything else, I'll try and answer. So there's your

1497
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 5: final update, and there are some quick relevant comments. Odd

1498
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 5: Damage forty six eighty nine says, read your other two posts.

1499
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 5: Scary that you can't even trust your own kids. What

1500
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 5: was their reaction to divorce? Did they admit to knowing

1501
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: about the affair? What's your feeling towards them? Did they

1502
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 5: meet their half brother? Is your ex wife with a

1503
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 5: fair partner out? I don't get that he didn't trust

1504
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 5: his own kids.

1505
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 4: Well, it's that the kid win and immediately. Yeah, that's

1506
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 4: a that's a that's a cornball comment, because you should

1507
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 4: never involve your kids in the detective work you're doing

1508
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 4: to find out if your their mom is cheating on

1509
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: you their dad. Don't involve your kids in your affair investigations.

1510
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: You absolute cornball.

1511
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that comment seems to be like just like leaning

1512
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: into the distrust.

1513
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: You cann't even trust your kids. It's hard world for

1514
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: a man out here.

1515
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, shut up, dude, Opie responds, Still talking to my kids,

1516
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 5: but the relationship is different now. The younger one did

1517
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 5: not know anything was going on. The older I think did,

1518
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 5: but won't admit to anything. But won't admit to anything

1519
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 5: going on, says that they were trying to avoid conflict.

1520
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 5: I have very mixed feelings, but I still want them

1521
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 5: in my life. I was there when she told the kids.

1522
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 5: They both said that they want to meet their half brother,

1523
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 5: but as of today, they have no plan on meeting him.

1524
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 5: I was amazed about how they reacted. They seemed happy

1525
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 5: to hear that they had a half brother out there

1526
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 5: and didn't seem bothered at all that their mom had

1527
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 5: that their mom hit this for their whole lives. Something happened.

1528
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 5: I have no idea what, and I really don't want

1529
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 5: to know, but she seems to hate the fair partner.

1530
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 5: Now he probably dumped her now that she's single. Modern

1531
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 5: Plaza slave says, note to self, don't get married.

1532
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's what we need to take

1533
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: away from all of this.

1534
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 5: But go ahead, I guess. But that is the end

1535
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 5: of that very long story. Yeah, wow, there's a fly.

1536
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 4: Tera Rain in Chat says he is a narcissist. All

1537
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: of his reasons for loving her were services to him.

1538
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 4: He did described one meaningful thing about her. When it

1539
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 4: was time to step up, he slumped because he would

1540
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 4: have had to compromise.

1541
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just.

1542
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 4: He literally never said one emotionally flattering thing about his wife.

1543
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: The only thing was the spicy that.

1544
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 4: She was hot, and they were athletes, and they had

1545
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 4: a lot of spicy.

1546
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: Spicy sleep, the splicy sleep.

1547
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 5: He would say that she was smart, but mostly in

1548
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 5: context of like she's so smart that she can hide

1549
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 5: cheating from.

1550
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 4: Right to the point where he's like, yeah, so I

1551
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 4: need access to your phone. She's like, okay, you can

1552
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 4: have access to my phone. He's like, well, but I

1553
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 4: know you're smart. Enough to hide your stuff. So now

1554
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 4: that's not enough. Actually that you've done that.

1555
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, well what are we talking about, dude.

1556
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 5: That's the thing with any sort of like distrust like that,

1557
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 5: you can't, like, even if you think that your partner

1558
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 5: is cheating on you, you kind of have to let

1559
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 5: them to a certain point, Like you can't be like, Okay,

1560
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 5: now we have to set up these rules so that

1561
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 5: I know that you're not cheating, because that is just

1562
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 5: not the way that you can have a relationship.

1563
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 3: But it just doesn't work that way. You could have

1564
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 3: just had a conversation.

1565
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 4: You could have taken all the things that you had

1566
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 4: been feeling all that time, where it'll be like I

1567
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 4: feel like she's giving me excuses. I feel like we're

1568
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 4: not you know, we're I feel that there's a rift

1569
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 4: growing between us. Maybe we're not spending as much time.

1570
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 4: You're not coming with me to the team, You're not

1571
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 4: coming this, You're don't doing that. And then listen to

1572
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 4: what your wife says instead of I'm sure completely not

1573
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 4: listening at all.

1574
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeahing to you.

1575
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 6: This guy is like honey, there's no I in team

1576
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 6: and you're being a very selfish player. Right now, right

1577
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 6: do it for the team. I swear to you that

1578
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 6: my life, my life.

1579
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: I would put on it that he said, you can't

1580
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 4: change anything about the team.

1581
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: It's my life.

1582
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 4: I've built it for twenty years. This is what I do.

1583
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 4: You can't impact that. This is for us, honey, this

1584
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 4: is face. Yeah, the Walter White. I'm doing this for

1585
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 4: the family.

1586
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: No you're not. You're doing it for you this guy.

1587
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 2: Man yeah, man oh man.

1588
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's the end of that episode though. Yeah.

1589
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1590
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 5: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe. We

1591
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 5: love you and see you