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Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint, they want to get back to

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Speaker 1: power football. Chris Carson and Rashad Penny certainly fit that bill,

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Speaker 1: they do, you know, I just I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we're gonna go to a situation where all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden there is just a guy that gets

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Speaker 1: all that work. Um, and so that that may be

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Speaker 1: the the confusion here and right now. The way it

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Speaker 1: works in terms of draft value, Chris Carson is a

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Speaker 1: hell of a lot cheaper raft than Penny. He's he's

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Speaker 1: undrafted right now, I mean, or might be going super

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Speaker 1: super super late. He's the late round end of draft flyer, right,

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Speaker 1: rashand Penny, can you justify his early forties ADP early

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Speaker 1: forties ADP when knowing Chris Carson might be the start

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Speaker 1: knowing Chris Carson has ADP in the one twenties, Uh not.

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Speaker 1: It's it's harder. That's tough. It's getting harder. You know.

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Speaker 1: That is tough to justify that price right there? It was.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a little easier to justify it

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Speaker 1: in say, early May. Yeah, you know, when when everybody

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Speaker 1: sort of believed that rashand Penny was gonna walk in

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Speaker 1: and take that gig and you didn't know what the

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Speaker 1: health did you want for Chris Carson either? But if

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Speaker 1: he's good, if he's good, and if he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the starter, not even he's gonna be the starter if

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Speaker 1: he's he's gonna take enough carries, if they're gonna rotate.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's exactly. Oh you know what this series,

447
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: Chris Carson, you've got it, this series, rashand Penny, you

448
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Speaker 1: got We're gonna switch off series and then and then

449
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: just you know, really screw us up and throw on

450
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Speaker 1: the occasional CJ process on third. No, no, I don't

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Speaker 1: want that. No, do not give me that at all. Um. Yeah, no, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at Rashad Penny's price right now,

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Speaker 1: and he's going around guys, other running backs like Alex Collins, Derrick, Henry,

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Speaker 1: j A, g I E. Kenyan Drake. Um, give me

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Speaker 1: all of those guys. I'm really starting to buy in

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Speaker 1: more on j by the way, he just has a side.

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Speaker 1: I was skeptical, but the more I look at it,

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Speaker 1: the more I'm starting to buy in. I mean, even

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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller's going, you know, significantly later than rashand Penny.

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Speaker 1: And I think Lamar Miller's locked in to an extensive workload.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all those guys that you mentioned have a

462
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Speaker 1: clearer path to getting the ball a lot Ronald Jones

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Speaker 1: in that in that price target, range as well. So

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's not even by the way,

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Speaker 1: that's not even including the wide receivers here, Okay, I

466
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Speaker 1: mean we got guys like Golden Again guys, Golden Tate,

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Speaker 1: Alan Robinson, Juju Smith, Schuster. I mean, I look at

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Speaker 1: uh an early forties price tag for Rashan Pinn. I

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Speaker 1: just don't see myself ever drafting him there, not with

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Speaker 1: all those names still on the board. I can't. I

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Speaker 1: can't see myself doing it now if we get down

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Speaker 1: to sixty. Yeah, absolutely, Marvin Jones, Dion lewis, TERK Cohen,

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Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's about right. I think

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Speaker 1: that's about right. Those guys are in time shares or

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Speaker 1: or you know, might be battling or whatever it might be.

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Speaker 1: I think that sounds about right. These other guys, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would much rather take Alex Collins, j j I,

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Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake, and I think I think it's just you know, again,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a potential tational back in what could be

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Speaker 1: a really bad offense this year. True, and it just

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Speaker 1: could be a bad offense, true, true, true, I mean

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Speaker 1: I buy all of that. You know, this is like

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Speaker 1: just sitting around just chatting with folks. I mean, this

484
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Speaker 1: could be a five or six win team. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean they could win ten games just on the

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Speaker 1: back of Russell Wilson. Maybe it could, it could happen,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, I mean it's a quite and you know,

488
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Speaker 1: we always hear it's the quarterback, ladies, quarterback, and Russell

489
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Speaker 1: has been incredible. If you also have four games against

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Speaker 1: the Rams and forty Niners better much improved, you got

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Speaker 1: the you know, two more games against the Cardinals, we

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Speaker 1: were sort of a wild card. Who knows what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be. I mean, just the schedule does not really

494
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Speaker 1: shake out well right for Seattle this so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's all. It all makes me nervous. Mike

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Speaker 1: Cliffs of nine News Denver one of the again you

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Speaker 1: talk about respected beat writers for you know, their respective

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Speaker 1: teams here, Mike Cliffs is all over the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: If you don't follow him for Broncos News, you should,

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Speaker 1: He's a great follow there. My Cliss of nine News

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Speaker 1: Standard believes DeVante Booker DeVante Booker is gonna be the

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Speaker 1: Week one starter. Royce Freeman, uh, he does not believe

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Speaker 1: Will Will be that guy, DeVante book I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: he still said Royce Freeman has got a great upside

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna be, you know, used significantly in this offense.

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Speaker 1: But Davante Booker is going to be the Week one starter.

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Speaker 1: We talked about prices here, mid fifties a DP for

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Speaker 1: Royce Freeman, one forties for Devonte Booker. Uh that price

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Speaker 1: needs to level out. I mean mid fifties for Royce Freeman,

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Speaker 1: one forties for DeVante Booker. And I'm a big Royce

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Speaker 1: Freeman guy. I'm a big Royce Freeman guy. But uh mg,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on on that price for the rookie and

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Speaker 1: Oregon do not want? Do not want? But I also

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Speaker 1: admit to league, I just I haven't. I haven't drank

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Speaker 1: the kool aid on Royce Freeman. You saw him play

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Speaker 1: quite a bit last yeah, you know, and I thought

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Speaker 1: he was. I thought he was. I was very good

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Speaker 1: in the context of the Oregon offense. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: and maybe this is sort of my a little bit

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Speaker 1: of of bias and that that seemingly running backs from

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Speaker 1: that offense have had a tough time adjusting, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want this to sound like Oregon running

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Speaker 1: back some right, but but you know, they've been kind

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Speaker 1: of running that same style of offense for a while there,

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Speaker 1: and some of those guys just haven't translated. So maybe

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Speaker 1: that has something to do with it. Also the fact

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Speaker 1: that the Bronco offense is not that good. It's just

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00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: there at quarterback. You think it's at least a slide upgrade.

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Speaker 1: It isn't upgrade. I mean, look, Davante Booker has not

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Speaker 1: been great in his first couple of NFL seasons, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that this is even a conversation at all

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Speaker 1: says something to me about where Royce Freeman is right.

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Speaker 1: And again it's not it's I mean, it's not some

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Speaker 1: random guy. It's Mike Cliss. Mike Cliss is so tapped

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Speaker 1: in to the Denver Broncos organization when he says DeVante

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Speaker 1: Booker is you know, most likely going to be your

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Speaker 1: Week one starter that that carries a lot of weight

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Speaker 1: with me. Man. So uh, and again, I've been a

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Speaker 1: guy that has loved Royce Freeman. I think to your point,

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Speaker 1: you talk about Oregon running backs maybe potentially um struggling

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Speaker 1: a little bit in the NFL. Um I mean, to

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Speaker 1: be fair, some of those guys were like la Michael James,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And Royce Freeman is not that dude. He's

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Speaker 1: a big roy um. And I think part of what

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Speaker 1: they did there in in Oregon too when they ran

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Speaker 1: that very very high temple offense was guys were not

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Speaker 1: used to playing on multiple series in a row. They

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Speaker 1: would rotate backs in and out, in and out, in

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Speaker 1: and out a lot. Uh. Royce Freeman, to me is

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Speaker 1: I think gonna be a pretty good fit for this offense.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised to read this, quite honestly, because DeVante

552
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: Booker comes from that Utah system, um, and I think

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00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: they play a little bit more power there. Royce Freeman

554
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: obviously from a spread offense. Well, Bill Musgrave's their their

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator there in Denver, and all indications are I mean, again,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that coached under Chip Kelly. This

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Speaker 1: the guy that has installed spread offenses um or spread

558
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Speaker 1: concepts anyway everywhere he's gone. So if he does that

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00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: again here in Denver, and there's no reason to think

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Speaker 1: that he won't, I think Royce Freeman's that guy. Hey listen,

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Speaker 1: I would love for Royce Freeman's price and drops, so

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Speaker 1: I could just now have him up just given to

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Speaker 1: me at sixty. I love it. By the way, um,

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00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: so our our our pal Dan Hans is for from

565
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: around the NFL team. Yeah. He wrote a piece a

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Speaker 1: couple weeks ago about the the nicknames you can find

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Speaker 1: for players on Pro Football Reference, you know, like, yeah,

568
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: as as we're having this discussion, I looked up Vante

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Speaker 1: Booker's numbers and I see his nickname here. But what

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Speaker 1: is it? Book Mode? I guess they wanted to say

571
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Speaker 1: beast mode, but because his last name is Booker, I

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Speaker 1: mean like that just sounds like I sound like what

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Speaker 1: you tell your friends in college, like they want to

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Speaker 1: go out and party and you're like, yeah, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: in book mode. I'll catch you. I'll catch up the

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Speaker 1: guys later. I'm in book mode. Now. I like it.

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Speaker 1: You know who should actually co opt that name is

578
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: my boy? Patrick laired up for the cal Bears because,

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Speaker 1: first of all, he has he started a reading campaign

580
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Speaker 1: in UH in the off season where if you read

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Speaker 1: a certain amount of books and do book reports. UH.

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Speaker 1: He has teamed up with cow Football to give a

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Speaker 1: family four pack of of tickets to you if you

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Speaker 1: if you read a certain amount of books and Also,

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00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: his touchdown celebration after touchdowns is to then go into

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Speaker 1: the end zone and then open up a fake book.

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Speaker 1: He needs to be and oh it all ties in

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch went to cal so perfect. I'm sending that

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Speaker 1: up to Patrick. I don't know how I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: I think he follows me on Twitter. Maybe maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: send him am out. I don't know. He needs to

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Speaker 1: be book mode though, that's what needs to I don't

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Speaker 1: know how we went down this road. Um. Yes, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I love the fact that Mike Cliss gives

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Speaker 1: us a super deep sleeper as well. I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about a boy Mike danger zone level here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay from the University of Colorado speaking of the

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve, Philip Lindsay from the University of Colorado. This

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Speaker 1: is per Mike Cliss. Okay. Quote Musgrave developed a speed

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Speaker 1: package of tosses and swing passes for Lindsay. So he

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Speaker 1: has developed plays for the speedy running back out of

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Speaker 1: the University of Colorado. So that's just I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he's a draftable. I'm not falling for the

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Speaker 1: Cordarrel Patterson banana the tailpipe again. I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: a draftable asset, Philip Lindsay. I'm just saying he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be one of the you know what he's gonna be.

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00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna be totally that helps No. One guy, and

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00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: then and then he'll morph into this you know, deep

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Speaker 1: sleeper type dude. But man, he is absolutely gonna ruin

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Speaker 1: somebody's uh Royce Freeman slash Davonte Booker touchdown for sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure. I could totally see a goal to go,

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Speaker 1: some kind of random jet sweep. Here comes you know,

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Speaker 1: a little toss out to to to Philip Lindsay, who

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Speaker 1: takes it around the edge or a touchdown. Everyone's gonna

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Speaker 1: be saying, who in the hell is Philip? I'm just

616
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Speaker 1: calling her right now. Hey, the Chargers, they're still open

617
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Speaker 1: to bring him back Antonio Gates. If this happens, what

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Speaker 1: are the expectations for the old man um considering that

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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is not in the mix? I mean Antonio Gates.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's got great rapport with Philip Rivers. He has

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Speaker 1: lost seven steps over the last three years, but starting

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Speaker 1: tight end for a Charger's offense and a lot of

623
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Speaker 1: folks are expecting to be pretty good. And again there's

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Speaker 1: already that built in chemistry with Philip Rivers. MG. My

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Speaker 1: got Marcus Grant. What are the expectations that you may

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Speaker 1: potentially have if Antonio Gates goes back to the l

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Speaker 1: A Chargers. Uh? Not good? Not good? Um. I mean

628
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Speaker 1: so last year and I know Hunter Henry was there

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Speaker 1: and they were sort of you know, splitting snaps and

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Speaker 1: gets a little bit. Gates gave you thirty catches, three

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Speaker 1: sixteen yards and three touchdowns. Not good And that was

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Speaker 1: what they considered effort early in the year to get

633
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: him the football because they were trying to get him

634
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: that tight end touchdown record. Um, they only did it.

635
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: He sort of faded into bolivion. Um. And I just

636
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: even if he comes back, like, I just don't know,

637
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: has he stayed in shape? Does he want to play football? Right?

638
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that you know he was a

639
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: free agent this whole time and no one even knocked

640
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: on the door says a lot. You know. I mean,

641
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: this is a guy who is he just turned thirty

642
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: eight last month, um, thirty eight years in fact. Um

643
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: when just just for laughs, when Antonio Gates was born

644
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: the number one song on the Billboard charts was a

645
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: Funky Town by Lips Inc. Oh no really, yes, funky

646
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: Town Oh boy was finishing its three week run atop

647
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: the Billboard charts in when he was born, So that's

648
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: the one that goes done, didn't Yeah, won't you take

649
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: me down to Funkytown? Yes? Um? So, I I don't

650
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: have many expectations for for Antonio Gates. I mean, honestly

651
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: think for him, you know, fifty catches five yards would

652
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: be huge. Sure, that's not enough for me to spend

653
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: a draft pick on him. Uh, just kind of looking

654
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: at his first five weeks from seventeen okay, Uh, twenty

655
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: targets over the first five games, eleven receptions yards and

656
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So that's not even yards per target. Five.

657
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: That's not good, not good, that's not great. Baby. So

658
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know. Obviously, no expectations there for

659
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates. But he's a fun name to have. He's

660
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players of all time. So what

661
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: the hell I'm gonna throw him another run down because

662
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: I can. Baby, we go to quarterback now. Um, that's

663
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: not really news per se, but there's so much chatter

664
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: now And the more I think about it, the more

665
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: intrigued I get. Because at first, and we're talking about

666
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: the Baltimore quarterback situation, Lamar Jackson Joe Flacco. Does Lamar

667
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Jackson supplant Joe Flacco at some point this season? And

668
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: at first I was thinking to myself, there's a zero

669
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: percent chance that that's going to happen. Um, And if

670
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: it does, I don't care rookie quarterback. What the I

671
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: don't they have limited weapons, I don't I don't care

672
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson. Everyone and and literally there was so

673
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: many remember the online debates that would happen regarding Lamar Jackson,

674
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm about to mute the world,

675
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson my timeline. Um, and it's obviously died down

676
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: a lot. But now that training camps are about to

677
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: open here and then they basically have actually for a

678
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: number of teams as well. Um, that conversation now I

679
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: started again. I guess the more I start thinking about it, Marcus,

680
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: I actually start getting a little bit more intrigued by

681
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: the specter of Lamar Jackson. I just getting caught up

682
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: in the wash or or there's something to it. No,

683
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: I didn't say it for a while. I think Lamar

684
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: Jackson will be the starter before the year is out.

685
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: I totally believe that. Well, what are we talking here,

686
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: week ten or week four? I think some of that

687
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: depends on Joe Flacco. Um, if Flacco starts out slow,

688
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: then we see Jackson sooner. If if Flacco is just okay,

689
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: we start to see this team kind of fade out

690
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: of the playoff race, then it ends up being a

691
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: little bit later. But I think at some point he

692
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: will be the starter. Um. You know, he's a dynasty

693
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: quarterback that I missed out on, but you know, just

694
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: because you know the way the draft worked out. But

695
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a great option. Um, and

696
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a situation where his receivers they are

697
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: necessarily great. I mean, Michael Crabtree on papers is kind

698
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: of the best guy they've got in there right now.

699
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Definitely longer in the tooth as well, right, but he's

700
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: good enough that he's gonna you have a quarterback like

701
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson that he raises a whole lot. I mean,

702
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned de Shaun Watson here in the rundown.

703
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: Obviously he had nuke, which is a huge plus will Fuller, Right,

704
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know that Lamart Need is great. Martin

705
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: have great receivers at Louisville, you know what I'm saying.

706
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: Like he had, he had some kind of crappy receivers

707
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: at Louisville, a lot of drops and stuff. So's to

708
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: get a guy like Michael Crabtree in there? I think

709
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot for him. And so he's a guy

710
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: that you know, I can't advocate in redraft leagues spending

711
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: a draft pick on him, not even round I just

712
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: because you'd have to you'd have to hold onto that

713
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: lot that long time. I mean like time. It could

714
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: be week four, it could be week fourteen. You just

715
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: don't know. But the moment you're really gonna do that

716
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: for a quarterback, No, that's the thing. But the moment,

717
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: the moment you start hearing buzz about him, the moment,

718
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: the moment you you fire up the old interwebs and

719
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: you see that story that Jackson has taken snaps with

720
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: the ones go get him, go get him. Um, I

721
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: I throw out the Deshaun Watson thing, and I just

722
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't know would that be fair? I mean, they're

723
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: both these dynamic you know, mobile quarterbacks. People have questioned,

724
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, Deshaun Watson's accuracy, just like they've questioned Lamar

725
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: Jackson's accuracy. But I mean, I know it's not fair

726
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: because Deshaun Watson and came out gangbusters and that we

727
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: may never see that again. I mean that was just insaneo. Um,

728
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: the rampage that he was putting on the league when

729
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: he first got in. So obviously we may never see

730
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: that again. But can we get a little tasted it,

731
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: just a little taste. Can we get a little taste

732
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: of that from Lamar Jackson? I think so because the

733
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: dudes just so dynamic. I mean, their their skill sets

734
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: are similar. Um. Yeah, I I really do think so.

735
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: I think, you know, some of it. Look, admittedly, part

736
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: of the reason DeShawn Watson got in and was successful

737
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: was because the Texans offensive line was was bad. I

738
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: mean that I've got their starting quarterback hurt, and then

739
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: they put Deshaun Watson back there because he could sort

740
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: of evade capture, uh and and it worked out. But

741
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, I just I don't know. I love his skills,

742
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: I love his ability, and like we all know, quarterbacks

743
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: who can run are kind of a cheat code, and

744
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: he can certainly do that. You know what I would

745
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: say to the specter of Lamar Jackson doesn't necessarily mean

746
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: that much. I don't think for for Joe Flacco, as

747
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: he's going undrafted and and why the hell would you

748
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: draft Joe Flacco, But to me, it at least increases

749
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: the upside. Increases the upside for somebody like Crabtreet and

750
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: especially for somebody like Alex Collins. I don't know if

751
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: Alex Collins is even gonna be the starter, but if

752
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: he's the starter, and I love I love Collins man.

753
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: I think he's a great football player, UM playing in

754
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: a system that is perfect for him. John Harball has

755
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: done such an amazing job generating the run. I mean,

756
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: we talked about two fifths of their offensive line got

757
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: decimated UM right before season start started. John Herschel, you know, retired,

758
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: and then Marsha Yonda got a season ending injury. I mean, look,

759
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: they still were able to generate a run. So now

760
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: they've stabilized that. They've had an offseason, they've had some

761
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: pieces of whatever, blah blah blah blah. But I mean

762
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: I think about Lamar Jackson and think about what Deshaun

763
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Watson did to Lamar Miller. That's what I start thinking

764
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: about for somebody like Alex Collins. So that's at least

765
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: in the range of possibility. Is now, is it gonna happen? Problem?

766
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe not, but at least at least

767
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: that specter looms, and it gets me. I'm already excited

768
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: about Alex Collins. I'm already excited about Alex Collins. This

769
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: makes me a little bit more excited. Dear John Harbam,

770
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: if you are listening to this podcast, which which I

771
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: know you do, We've got billions of listeners. Um, can

772
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: I please, John Harbaugh, Marty Morning leg can can we

773
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: just get some r p O s with Lamar Jackson

774
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: and like, could you imagine being in an an edge

775
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: rusher and outside linebacker and you've got to make that decision.

776
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: Come on, let's do this. Let's make it happen. Come on,

777
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: it happened, all right, Let's get to this terrific piece.

778
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: I love this piece that you wrote. Here, Marcus Grant.

779
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: Best players you're not drafting, you can find NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Fantasy or just go to the writer page

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00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: man NFL dot com slash Grant. All right, we'll run

782
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: down a few of these names here. I won't give

783
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: the whole damn thing away because I want to. I

784
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: want the folks, man, We need them clicks. Get them clicks, baby,

785
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: get them clicks. All right, we'll talk about a few

786
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: guys though here. You talked about the Washington pass catchers,

787
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: Paul Richardson, Josh Dockson, talk to me about, uh, first

788
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: of all, where they're going and what you like about

789
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: their prospect. Well, I mean, these are guys again, they're

790
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: going very late in draft. I mean, the whole the

791
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: whole point is, these are guys who are going fourteen

792
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: fifteen round undrafted in a lot of situations, you know,

793
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: just they're just kind of hanging out there where your

794
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: draft capital is little to nothing to get some of

795
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: these guys. And you know, Jamison Crowder obviously is there

796
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: and he's going to see a lot of opportunity. But

797
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: you're talking about too kind of tall, lean, athletic guys

798
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: on the outside who we know can get down the

799
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: field and I know that they can get up and

800
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: go get the football. I mean, we saw Josh Dockson

801
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: do it last year with um, you know, Paul Richardson.

802
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: You don't remember a lot of his catches, but the

803
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: ones you do are memorable because they're usually ridiculous where

804
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: he's you know, doing a somersault or something and making

805
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: a one handed catch, you know, and toe tapping on

806
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: the corner of the end zone. Having those guys with

807
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, who turned over a new leaf last year

808
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: and looked like a guy who was willing to go

809
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: downfield and challenge defenses deep. You give him these two

810
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: guys on the outside. With a head coach that I

811
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: still believe in. Jake Gruden has still has an arena

812
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: football kind of mentality to the way he calls the game. Um,

813
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: it's just it just seems to be so good potentially.

814
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: And and again, because you're not spending a lot on

815
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: these guys draftwise. If they pan out, you look great.

816
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: If they don't, you know, you cut bait after a

817
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: few weeks, and it's not really a big deal. I'll

818
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: tell you this about Paul richard and I've you know,

819
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: spent a lot of digital inc hype in this man. Uh,

820
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Although I think he eats

821
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: tacos with catchup. Oh, he's he's that dude I might

822
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: need to take and he's so by the way, he's

823
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: so adamant about it too. It's like, oh, this is

824
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: the only thing that you you you need on your dacos.

825
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, no, you didn't do that. No, you

826
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: put ke jump on your tacos. Bro. Uh yeah, I know,

827
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what to make of that.

828
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: But let me just let me just say this. I've

829
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: said this many times. Is that Paul Richardson to me anyways,

830
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: is the much more finessed. He's the better route runner

831
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: of the two. Josh Dockson. I think he's just way

832
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: more of a physical freak. He's just way more of

833
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: a physical freak. I mean, he's just a beast. Um.

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00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: That being said, Paul Richardson, I think is a more

835
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: technical receiver. He's six ft tall. Uh. He ran a

836
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: four four forty so a four point four zero forty

837
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: yard dash a lot of fours there, um, but the

838
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: guy's got the speed man. He had a thirty eight

839
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: inch vertical as well, so he can go up and

840
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: get it as well. Again, is he in the same

841
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: you know stratosphere as Josh Dockson As a pure athlete. No, No,

842
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: he is not. Josh Dockson is an absolute freak, a

843
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: zoid athlete. Uh, and that's what you love. But so

844
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: many targets are available there, I think for Paul Richardson

845
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: as well. And you tell talk about draft capital. I

846
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: mean Josh Dockson going into one fifties, Paul Richardson going

847
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: in the one eighties. Yeah, I mean these guys are free. Yeah,

848
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: these guys, I mean you're You're not You're not giving

849
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: up a lot. There's not a lot of risk involved

850
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: in grabbing. And I think, look, let me let me

851
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: take the voice of the counter argument for for the

852
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: folks out there. If you say, Jordan Reed, I'm walking

853
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: out of this room. Come on. You think I'm gonna

854
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: say Jordan come on? Um No, but I think a

855
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: lot of folks are worried about um Jamison Crowder and

856
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson as well. No, and I get that, I

857
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: understand that, But this is still an offense that wants

858
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: to attack downfield. They still want to go downfield. And

859
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson, all the great things he does, he's not

860
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: a downfield threat per se. Um. You know, Jamison Crowder

861
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: is a nice option. But you know, as a slot receiver,

862
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: he's not necessarily gonna challenge defense is a lot downfield

863
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: that when you've got the two guys on the outside.

864
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: So I understand. I understand that concern, I really do,

865
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: but I'm not I don't know. I still think. I

866
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: still think the risk, uh, and what you're spending draftwise

867
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: is worth the potential reward. I think I think about

868
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: it too. I just break it down mathematically, and I

869
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: know I'm not allowed to do that on a I

870
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: get down mathematically here. I mean, let's say Chris Thompson

871
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, uh, you know, sees four or

872
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: five targets. Let's say Jamison Crowder sees four or five targets.

873
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an offense is gonna be throwing

874
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: the ball thirty five to fifty times a game. I

875
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: mean there's still plenty of meat on that bone. A

876
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity out there, you know what I'm saying,

877
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities. All right, Talk to me about

878
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: Richard Matthews there in Tennesseee. Why are folks overlooking Richard Matthews.

879
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: I think it's because the Titans offense is just let

880
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: me pull this up. I will read to you how

881
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: I described it. The Titans passing game generates as much

882
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: excitement as a Ted talk on the comparative merits of

883
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: bluegrass versus fescue. And it's just I would watch that. Actually,

884
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: you know what I forgot. You did have James grow

885
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: for a while, So yeah, I get that. Um, it's

886
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: just nothing about the Titans offense is exciting, you know.

887
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: And I know people are hyping Corey Davis and they're

888
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: hoping right on Lewis and maybe this is the year

889
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: that we finally get the huge Marcus Mario to break out.

890
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: But general, I mean, there's just nothing. There's very little

891
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: about it that excites people. But Richard Matthews, year in

892
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: and year out, continues to be a consistent option. He's

893
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: that guy who want he stays healthy, he's always on

894
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: the field, and he always seems to end up with

895
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: the football in his hands. I mean, you know, last

896
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: year fifty three catches, seven touchdowns. It's not I know,

897
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: it's not I popping. It's not gonna blow anybody away.

898
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: But we're talking about guys that you're you're getting at

899
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: the end of the draft. Guy's that you're using to

900
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of fill out your roster, be flex options, be

901
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: bye week options. And Richard Matthews has had that level

902
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: of consistency, and I think we just kind of overlook him.

903
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he was second on the team in receiving

904
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: yards behind Delaney Walker last year. So, by the way,

905
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: can that hold up? I mean, can Delaney Walk? I mean,

906
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: the guy's getting up there, so he will be you

907
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: he's thirty three, he'll be thirty four. Unless you're the Patriots. Man,

908
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: you can't run your offense through your vertical offense, through

909
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: your tight end. Ken you han it. I guess if

910
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: you're the Chiefs, you got Travis Kelsey. Maybe that's about it.

911
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean even then it was Tyreek kill. Don't. I

912
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: don't you can't do it, can you? I just I

913
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: don't know. So, you know, Richard matthew is another one

914
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: of those guys who's just he's just steady and he's

915
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: just consistent and maybe maybe he's not a sexy name,

916
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: but he produces. By the way, it's it's fair to

917
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: remind folks too, it's a new coach staff, so we

918
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: we haven't seen anything yet. We don't know exactly what's

919
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: gonna appen. You can't. It's hard to transpose last year's

920
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: tape and then say, well, well, I mean this is

921
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: Rachard Matthews. We've seen this guy. It's like, yeah, okay,

922
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: calm down, you know, because he was playing some random

923
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: thing called an exotic exotic smash mouth. Yeah, we don't

924
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: know what that is. Weren't it was like spread with

925
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: like you know, power mixed in whatever that means. Okay,

926
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what that means. But

927
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to say, well, we saw

928
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: this last year. Thereby we're going to see that it's

929
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: brand new coaching staff. Who the hell knows what it's

930
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: gonna look like. I'll tell you what the building blocks

931
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: are at least there Marcus Mariota certainly, I love, everyone

932
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: loves the offensive line. They might have the best offensive

933
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: line in all of football. So the building blocks certainly there.

934
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what you're You're not gonna go,

935
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: you know, cover two on this team, not with Derrick

936
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: Henry and Dian Lewis. No, what are you gonna do?

937
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? There's gonna be a lot

938
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: of one on one coverage for Richard Matthews next year,

939
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: and I agree with you. I think he's a pretty

940
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: good player right now. He's got an ADP in the

941
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: low one thirties, early one forties. So again we're talking

942
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: about a dude that's going round twelve later, maybe not

943
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: even being drafted in a lot of leagues as well.

944
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: All right, talk to me about niheim heinz Oh. I know,

945
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: you want to talk about Ninehehines. He's got that forty times.

946
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: He's got that forty times. I would say that he

947
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: was one of the he's one of the few Colts

948
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: players where you can kind of talk about him without

949
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: saying the words if Andrew luck is healthy, good point.

950
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, he's not necessarily impacted by that. Um,

951
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, Marlon mack looks like he's probably

952
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: going to be the starter in this offense. But it's

953
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: not like he's got a firm grasp on the job

954
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: and he's going to just absorb all these opportunities. It's

955
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: not like he's going to be the first, second, third

956
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: down back, right. I mean, he's no Jordan Howard. You know. Uh,

957
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: that means there's opportunity there for Hines, and you know,

958
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: Robert Turban is facing the suspension, might not even be

959
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: on the roster by the time we get to week one.

960
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: There are opportunities there, and you know, Hines was kind

961
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: of one of those those mini camp wonders that you

962
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: got one of, you know, those stories written about him

963
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: about how he's lining up all over the field and

964
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: people are getting frothy in the mouth talking about everybody's

965
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: getting all fired up, you know, and he's like the

966
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: biggest thing to hit Indianapolis and st Elmos. So you know,

967
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: everybody is like fired him about not hem Hines. I

968
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: was trying to hope maybe you do a spit take.

969
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: I saw you drinking water. I'm like, I see if

970
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: I can get him to spit take right now. So

971
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, again, this is the guy we're talking about

972
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: as a running back, a late round guy, maybe a

973
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: probably a waiver wire guy in most leagues, but has

974
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: the opportunity if he if he does legitimate we get

975
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: that role as kind of that that Swiss army knife

976
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: um to be productive. Like I I don't know that

977
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: I would advocate spending a draft pick on him, but

978
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that you know can be

979
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: a throwaway fifteen rounder. Sure, I mean, if that's what

980
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: you want to do, that's I have no problem with that.

981
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: But ten team, No, probably not Tea. But he's definitely

982
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: one of those names you keep in your back pocket

983
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: when you know, because it's what inevitably happens. Right you

984
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: finished drafting, you look at your team and usually one

985
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: or two picks in there, you're like, why don't draft

986
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: that guy? So when you're looking at that and you

987
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: see that guy, like, you know, maybe maybe take a

988
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: chance on Hines. Hey why not? We talked about the

989
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: four time A four three, so a sub four four

990
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: for this kid out of North Carolina State, ninety eight pounds,

991
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: uh so, smallish back, no doubt about it. Putting man.

992
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: The speed certainly is intriguing. I don't know if you

993
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: saw any game tape on Nihem Hines as well, but

994
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: he is an absolute home run hitter. You know what's

995
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: interesting too, is Marlon Mack is a home run hitter.

996
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: He is I like Marlin Matt come out of college.

997
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: So what's I mean? They need a grinder. I don't

998
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: know who that might be. Look, man, Frank Reich, I

999
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,479
Speaker 1: think is is the right guy to get these guys

1000
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: moving in the right direction. I like that higher. I

1001
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: like that higher a lot um. And again, if if

1002
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is there, if Andrew Luck is there and

1003
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: he's and if he's if he's seventy percent Andrew I

1004
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: we don't need a hundred percent Andrew Luck. Percent. Andrew

1005
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: Luck is one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

1006
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: We need we need seventy percent Andrew Luck. That's what

1007
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: we need. That's right, Andrew Luck. Man, give me that, dude.

1008
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: But no, this is this is certainly a guy that's injurgued.

1009
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: Anytime we talk about these smallish guys with with good

1010
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: athletic profiles, um, I always think about I don't know,

1011
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound a little bit weird, but you know,

1012
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: can can this guy give me a Danny woodhead time

1013
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: season at the running back position? Can it give me

1014
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: four hundred four hundred with you know, thirty catches? Because

1015
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: if that's the if that's what we're talking and we're

1016
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: talking you know, maybe five to eight touchdowns. I don't

1017
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: think any of us here in this room talking about

1018
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: Nihem him is gonna give you twelve hundoh and ten touchdowns.

1019
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: That's not that's not in the that's not in the ballpark.

1020
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: That's not you know, in the calculations here for Niheim Himes.

1021
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: But can he give you a Danny woodhead season? Can

1022
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: he give you four hundred four hundred with thirty five

1023
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: catches and five to eight touchdowns? If you can, I'm

1024
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all about it. That's an And if he's

1025
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: putting that in consistently, that's not a bad bye week

1026
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: filler flex guy for you, especially at running back, especially

1027
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: at running back, because you know injuries are gonna hit,

1028
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: is gonna happen every point. People are gonna be scrambling

1029
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: for running backs. If you have that guy, you can

1030
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: plug in and be okay at least maybe not when

1031
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: you week, but but not usually keep that will float

1032
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: on a week to week basis. That's exactly right. Can

1033
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: this guy give you somewhere between eight to fifteen PPR

1034
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: Fantasy points? Can you do it? That's that's what we're

1035
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: hoping for when we talk about smallish backs that are

1036
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: gonna be rotational but with great athletic profile. We're just

1037
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: looking for that Danny Wood hit season. Man. That's what

1038
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: we're talking That's what we're talking about, all right, who

1039
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: else you want to talk about on this list? Man,

1040
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: I listen just about damn here everybody. I don't know

1041
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: who you want to talk about. Though. It's like Mike

1042
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: Williams actually neither than attentionally exposed because we talked Antonio

1043
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: Gates and the Chargers and what happened at the tight

1044
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: end spot has a big impact on Mike Williams. I mean,

1045
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: good point. I think they were going to start to

1046
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: work him in more, hoping that he's healthy and he's

1047
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: ready to go after last year. But now we knew,

1048
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, we knew with Gates gone, they were gonna

1049
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: they were not gonna run as many two tight end sets.

1050
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: Now there's no Hunter Henry, so I expect the Chargers

1051
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: to be a lot more three wide receivers, which means

1052
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: Mike Williams is going to be on the field a

1053
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: whole lot more. Um. The biggest question for him is

1054
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: what kind of report he's built with with Philip Rivers,

1055
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: because we know Rivers does not suffer fools and he

1056
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: does not want somebody out there who doesn't know what

1057
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: he's doing. So as long as Mike Williams has, you know,

1058
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: figured things out, he and Phil are on the same

1059
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: page and they're cool. This really could be kind of

1060
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: the the big leap forward for Mike Williams this year.

1061
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny too. Whenever I think about Mike Williams,

1062
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: how he just fits that. You know, Philip Rivers Chargers,

1063
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what city they're in, the Chargers archetype of

1064
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: big wide receiver just streaking downfield, Philip Rivers saying astroat,

1065
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: go get it, big guy, and just tossing it down there.

1066
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean, whether we're talking about you know, somebody like

1067
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: Vincent Jackson back in the day, you know, it just

1068
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. The guy is gonna throw it down there.

1069
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: You know. It's so great. Um, And yeah, I'm I'm

1070
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued. I'm excited. This is Mike Williams is definitely

1071
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: a guy that I wrote about in Bargains that I think, again,

1072
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: you're getting this guy for free. What is he's going

1073
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: like in the one fifties or later. Look, he had

1074
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: eleven catches in ninety five yards last year. Yeah, no

1075
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: one's checking from Mike Woods. That's a good point. That's

1076
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: a good point. But man, I'm excited about Mike will

1077
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean, keep in mind too. Man, this is a

1078
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: guy that was a beast just based in college he

1079
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: was balling. So yeah, so there you go very quickly.

1080
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of Dallas fans listening out

1081
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: there too. Why Michael Gallup? This is a Dallas offense,

1082
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: and I gotta be honest with the MG I'm avoiding, man,

1083
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: I mean, unless I'm getting Zeke, I didn't want any

1084
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: piece of this Dallas offense. Why Michael Gallup? I get it. Um.

1085
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: I mean one, I liked his talent coming out of college. Um,

1086
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: but he landed in a situation where there are targets

1087
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: galore to be had. You know, I mean Jason Witten retires,

1088
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: Des Bryant is still a free agent right now. And

1089
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: you know who's gonna de fit in that wall? You,

1090
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: Terence Williams, You, Lieutenant Caffe. I mean, who's gonna do that? Right? Like? Sure,

1091
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns is probably gonna be the number one receiver

1092
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: on this team, but you know that the Cowboys cannot

1093
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,479
Speaker 1: live on Hern's alone. They've got to spread the ball around.

1094
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: And Michael Gallup is I think gonna get plenty of

1095
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to to make up to be an impact player

1096
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: this year. Um, I will say this, I don't know

1097
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: where do you think Michael Gallup will play because Alan

1098
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: everyone's projecting Alan Hearns to be an outside wide receiver.

1099
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: But you know, when I looked at his next gent stats, um,

1100
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: and I don't have in front of me here but

1101
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: work Jacksonville and Jacksonville and I and again don't quote

1102
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: me here. I don't have the number right in front

1103
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: of me here. But the last two years I believe

1104
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: I believe more than sixty five of uh of Alan

1105
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: Hearns's work came from the slot. That's a lot, it is.

1106
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: But I mean this is also a team that still

1107
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: has Cole Beasley and they still have Cold Beasley light

1108
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: and Ryan Switzer? Did he did he move on? Think

1109
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer got trades? I think he did. I think

1110
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: he's gone now. So still they drop so they still

1111
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: got your bees. Um. You know, so they seem to

1112
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: have a slot guy. I I would think that Herns

1113
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: moves to the outside and then Gallop kind of ends

1114
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: up as the guy on the other side. That you know,

1115
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: I would I would expect he attles with Terrence Williams

1116
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: and the like in training camp. But I don't. I

1117
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: just don't know how he doesn't get that operation. I

1118
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: didn't watch a ton of Michael Gallop tape. I saw him.

1119
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: I saw, you know, a game UM of his, and

1120
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen some highlights of Michael Gallup a

1121
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: as well. He went to Colorado State. So if you've

1122
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: never heard of Michael Gallup, I don't blame you, but

1123
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: it's understandable. Yeah, he's uh. He was around three pick

1124
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: by the by the Cowboys, by the way, so the

1125
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys saw something in him, they liked him. Uh. You

1126
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: talk about the overall stature and physicality of Michael Gallup

1127
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: pretty good, six one two oh five that's pretty good

1128
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver. Ran a four five one forties,

1129
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: so he's got the requisite um. Not terrific speed, but

1130
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: certainly at six o five that's enough. I think that's

1131
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: enough um to me. And he played obviously a lot

1132
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: outside for uh, for Colorado State as well. So yeah, man,

1133
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be I really honestly wouldn't be surprised if

1134
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop is there. I don't want to say their

1135
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: ex receiver, but it could he be their primary downfield guy.

1136
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I actually I think that's absolutely at least

1137
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: in the realm of possibility. And again, I like Alan

1138
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: Hearns's game. He's very injury prone. As long as he

1139
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: stays healthy, he you know again, I think he's going

1140
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: to be their number one receiver. I think he leads

1141
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: the team and targets, but you know as a's secondary,

1142
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: well it is, but you know this is this is

1143
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys are now. Um, yeah, I should say that.

1144
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess possible that Zeke could actually lead

1145
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: the team darts out. Might not be out of the

1146
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: realm of possibility. Oh no, it might be true. It

1147
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: might be true. Oh Zeke's gonna get all the work man,

1148
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. But it's so sad. I mean, I

1149
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: don't know who's the tight end. Uh. Well, if you

1150
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: believe in the legend of Rico Gathers, is he? I mean,

1151
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: is he? Though? I don't even know if they love

1152
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: his potential. Um, they absolutely love his potentially. They love

1153
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: his athletic profile, so it's it's it could be Gathers

1154
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: could be Blake Jarwin. Um. I think they spent the

1155
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: fourth round pick on Dalton Schultz from Stanford, but he's

1156
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: mostly a blocking tight end um. Blake Jarwin sounds like

1157
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: a Star Wars character kind of does. Blake jar like

1158
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: he's been kicked out of the Imperial Senate. You know,

1159
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: he's like, he's yeah, he's like he's he entered into

1160
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: the Jedi training program, but but but failed out. He

1161
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: couldn't make it. You know what I mean. It's just

1162
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 1: a now, just a rogue. It's out there doing things. Heater, Yeah,

1163
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. In the outer reaches of

1164
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: the column, we'd be winning this fourth They didn't kick

1165
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: me out right. Um. So yeah, if you want to

1166
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: read the rest of the best players you're not drafting,

1167
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: go to the website NFL dot com slash Fantasy, or

1168
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: just go straight to the writer page. Just just tap

1169
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: it right into the faints baby, NFL dot com slash Grant.

1170
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: All right, so let's close out your show with a

1171
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: round of daily depths, dap steps, that dog bites and

1172
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: dipping steps. You know, if you like creepy rabbits, uh,

1173
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: this movie is for you and degenerate art. It's down there.

1174
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: This is why I love this group of guys who

1175
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: were like daily Dap time. MG, my guy, Marcus Grant,

1176
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: what you got one I wanna. I just want to

1177
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: daily dap the city of Portland where I was on

1178
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: v K. It was a great time. Yeah, man, it

1179
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: is as was described to me. It is hipster Disneyland.

1180
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: We decided by the end of the week. I was

1181
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: with some friends. By the end of we sort of

1182
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: decided that to be a true hipster in Portland means

1183
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: that you you have no tattoos or mustache. But so

1184
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: that's truly against the grand right because that's what makes

1185
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: you hipster in the city of Portland. Um. But I

1186
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: had a great tilet there was It was hotter than

1187
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: the hinges of Hell, wasn't I figured, I'm leaving l A,

1188
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna that'll be cooler. Nope, that sucks. It was

1189
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: a hundred degrees when I left. Yah. Um that sucks. Yes,

1190
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: so that but that's a poor and it was. It

1191
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: was a good time. I had a great time. I

1192
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: got to meet I got to meet our Twitter pal

1193
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: Justice Musquito, who do you did a job on Setting

1194
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: the Edge podcast? Yeah? So that was fun. Also a

1195
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: huge DAP in general to train travel, Traine, Oh, you

1196
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: took the train. I took Amtrak from Los Angeles. How

1197
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: long that takes thirty hours. Um you know, I look,

1198
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: I pay little extra, got the room met yeah right,

1199
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, had my own place to sleep. But train.

1200
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: And I've done this a couple of times now, and

1201
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: every time I do it, I'm reminded how much more

1202
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: superior traveling by train is to traveling by plane. And

1203
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: planes airlines win obviously in terms of speed. Right yeah,

1204
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: that that that is that is there. That is I

1205
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: think the one and only real advantage because trains are

1206
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 1: one you don't have to deal with the security crap,

1207
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, take your shoes and your belt off to

1208
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: go through a metal detector. Beautiful, um, you know, and

1209
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: it's it's sort of like it's all the joys of

1210
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: a road trip without the actual hassle of you having

1211
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: to drive and you know, get gas and that sort

1212
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: of thing. So it's super comfortable. It's super comfortable, it's relaxing. Uh.

1213
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: If you've actually never slept on a train, it's it's

1214
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 1: because because the train kind of rocks you to sleep

1215
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: at that motion, it sort of rocks you, doesn't you know?

1216
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: How you get you know, you drive your kid around

1217
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: to try to get stuff like its the same principle. Um,

1218
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: so if I always I tell people all the time,

1219
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: if you if you have the time to do it,

1220
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: understanding that not everybody you know can spend a day

1221
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: plus on a train, right, if you have the time

1222
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: to do it, I strongly recommend traveling by train somewhere.

1223
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: There's this country I haven't I've never gone past, um,

1224
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: Santa Barbara. But does it still does it right? Does it?

1225
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: Does it give you a coastline view? Only you know,

1226
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: I thought there would be more coastline than there is.

1227
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: Not really, Um, you get a couple hours of it,

1228
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: kind of around the Santa Barbara area. Yeah, and like

1229
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of the California Central coast you get,

1230
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: you get some but really you get maybe two hours

1231
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: worth of coastline. But you get further north and you

1232
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: get into the mountains in the forests, and there's a

1233
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: lot of green and trees, and it's it's I mean,

1234
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's a different kind of beauty, but it's

1235
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: it's beautiful in its own way. That's why I always

1236
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: laugh when whenever I think about quote unquote northern California.

1237
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: Northern California, if you look at it on a map,

1238
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: it's actually central sort of central California because you have

1239
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: to drive another seven hours to get to the freaking boarder.

1240
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the poor people up in like Eureka,

1241
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: Like no one talks about them anymore. Eureka and then Wyreka,

1242
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: very northern part of California. You know, nobody talks about

1243
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: like Grass Valley and whatever way up there. What is

1244
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: that part of California even considered? Is it still considered

1245
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: northern Calists called Oregon southern southern Oregon are paled Villan

1246
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: Milner is actually from like northernmost California too. He thought

1247
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: from Sacktown. No, he claims Sacktown because it's the nearest

1248
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: metropolis to where he grew up. But he's he's actually

1249
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: likes he's like cut closer to the like California and

1250
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: the vat of border up you know, northern northern Oh

1251
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? Oh that's interesting. Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, if you, if you, I I would

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Speaker 1: co sign that. Man. If you never, you know, traveled

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Speaker 1: by train, you should absolutely find a way. If you

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Speaker 1: live in the southern California area, there's so many great

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Speaker 1: train rides to La to San Diego or San Diego

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Speaker 1: to Santa Barbara. I've done that one. I did the

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Speaker 1: San Diego to Santa Barbara. That's cool, and that is

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Speaker 1: so much coastline. It's super cool, super comfortable. Um and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it takes you sometime. But I tell you what, driving

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Speaker 1: from San Diego to Santa Barbara, that's no joke. It's

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Speaker 1: not like you're saving that much time driving. Not to

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01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: mention that on an airplane or in a car, I

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Speaker 1: can't crack open my own bottle of whiskey. So there

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Speaker 1: you go. Hey, hey go producer Christina. What you got? Well,

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Speaker 1: your vacations sounded awesome. Thanks. I the last week saw

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Speaker 1: two movies in theaters. I don't normally get to the

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Speaker 1: movie theater too often, but I saw the movie. That

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Speaker 1: one was awesome. Okay, if you didn't see the first one,

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Speaker 1: the first one is great. Uh the second one I

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Speaker 1: thought was even better. Um so yeah, I really like

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Speaker 1: that one. Totally different type of movie. I also saw

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Speaker 1: Sorry to Bother You did you like? I want to

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Speaker 1: see that? I loved it. It was so fun. Basically, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this guy he's trying to make ends meet. He gets

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Speaker 1: a job working for a telemarketer company and he has

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: to change his voice to a white voice so that

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01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: he sounds more appealing, so we can it's it's starting

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01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: to Keith Stanfield from from Atlanta and get out. If

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01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: he's photo you probably would recognize him. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's very surreal from what I understand. How interesting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: good movie though, Yeah, it's a great movie. Definitely recommend it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there you go. I will daily dap the listeners out

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01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: there and everybody who's kind of followed along. It's a

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01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: it's a it is an emotional thing man for me. Um,

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Speaker 1: and it's been a long ride. I've been here for years.

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Speaker 1: Um And as a matter of fact, by the time

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Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast, I'll have you know, done

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01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: a whole thing on Twitter if you follow me there

1290
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: at James d K if you want to follow along.

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01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: But but yeah, but and I'll get more into this

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Speaker 1: on Thursday's show. But you know, just off the top,

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Speaker 1: I figured it's just not I mean, you know, why

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Speaker 1: wait till Thursday. I'll just let folks know. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a lot of fun. And

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Speaker 1: the podcast, to me, I don't know if if people

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Speaker 1: don't know this, the podcast to me has been very

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Speaker 1: very important. Uh, it's been my baby. I do a

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Speaker 1: lot of work for the podcast, a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of hosts on various podcasts, um, not only here

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01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: but throughout sports culture or sports media. Rather they just

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Speaker 1: kind of sort of show up, um, and they kind

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Speaker 1: of sort of just rely on their producers to do

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01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: a lot of the legwork, uh for me, you know.

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Speaker 1: And again, I don't know if if people care or

1306
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: even know, but I work on a lot of the drops.

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Speaker 1: I work on the rundown exclusively, so I kind of formulate,

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01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, how the show sounds like, how the show

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01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: feels like. Uh. And it really has been intellectually stimulating.

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Speaker 1: It's been so great to to kind of flex some

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Speaker 1: creativity as well. Um. And this has been a great

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Speaker 1: platform for me. And I'm really really honestly gonna miss it. Obviously,

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01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: I will miss the television side as well. We had

1314
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: a great show there and I'll get into more of

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Speaker 1: that on Thursday. But I just wanted to let the

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Speaker 1: podcast listeners know, man, I have definitely appreciated all the

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Speaker 1: feedback that I've gotten, both positive and negative. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: guys have definitely followed along and and for all the

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01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: folks that have, um been so supportive of the podcast

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Speaker 1: and of me. I just can't say enough. Man. That's

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Speaker 1: the stuff that kind of gets me through. Man, it

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Speaker 1: really is it. It lights my life a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So this has been my baby, man and um and

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01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it is going to be tough to

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Speaker 1: walk away from it. Um. And and I'll pull the

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: curtain back a little bit. There's a possibility I could

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Speaker 1: come back. It's kind of like John Snow. It's kind

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01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: of like John Snow. You know, the beard got killed off.

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Speaker 1: This is spoiler alert said. Okay, look if you haven't

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: figured that out by now, like that's true. It's been

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01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: two years now, all right, bro. Anyways, John Snow got

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Speaker 1: killed off, he comes back. But so if that might

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Speaker 1: be my situation, and again I don't know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: banking on it. And and quite honestly, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: wait to see if that happens before I say goodbye

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Speaker 1: the listeners, man, because that's you guys have been so

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01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: important to me. Um and this has been a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun, man. But but yes, I'll get more into

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Speaker 1: it on Thursday. Uh. Follow along on Twitter if you'd

1340
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: like at James Deco. But for the most part again

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Speaker 1: that's just um. I just wanted to say thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, James seriously,

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Speaker 1: thanks all right Man for MG, my Gun, Arcus Grand

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: for Christina as well of James co. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. We'll see a Thursday for the next episode.

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Speaker 1: I don't