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Speaker 1: I'm joined by my co host Paul Pierce Danny Green.

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Speaker 1: We got a dope show for you guys today. Let's

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Speaker 1: get right into it. Ad guys, is he injured or

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Speaker 1: he's heard? Had some Twitter fingers today our guys. Seam

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Speaker 1: Charani of ESPN reported that A is expected to undergo

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Speaker 1: hand surgery to repair ligament damage in his left hand

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Speaker 1: and miss several months.

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Speaker 3: That means the season basically sounds like because they're not

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Speaker 3: making the playoffs, the season till April. It's already almost February, January, March. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Then this morning, Ab clap back on Twitter and said,

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Speaker 1: y'all better stop listening to all these.

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Speaker 2: Lies on these apps. Who's lying here?

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Speaker 3: What part of the lie is that he's missing several

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Speaker 3: months surgery or they're not ruling out trading him. That's

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Speaker 3: a great question, he's yeah saying lies. So yeah, So,

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a bunch of things in that that

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Speaker 3: statement that we're not sure what he's referring to. I

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Speaker 3: don't again, if the surgery is happening, I don't see

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Speaker 3: them reporting that he's.

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Speaker 2: Trying to say that he's not on the trade block.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that or that he's not out several months. Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It couldn't be that stupid to say that you're not

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Speaker 1: on the trade block. I mean, you've already been traded

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Speaker 1: within the last he's.

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Speaker 4: Talking about out several months.

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Speaker 5: Because I just look at it like this, if you

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Speaker 5: guys a surgery on your hand, I feel like you

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Speaker 5: gotta feel like you can come.

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Speaker 3: Back in for four to six weeks, say six, but

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Speaker 3: six to eight usually.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I probably feel he could come back in a

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Speaker 5: couple of months. But why bring once you get out

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Speaker 5: the playoff race in a couple of months, Why I

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Speaker 5: bring him out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I think what I think is happening here is

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Speaker 1: Ad is trying to get a trade to a team

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Speaker 1: that will pay him in the summer with an extension.

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Speaker 2: And I think if it's out there that his hand

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Speaker 2: is messed up.

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Speaker 1: For several months, yeah right, they're gonna be lesson centivis

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Speaker 1: and trade for him.

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Speaker 2: Because he can't contribute this year, therefore.

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Speaker 1: Less incentivized to pay him, because I think Rich Paul

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Speaker 1: is obviously.

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Speaker 2: To get him somewhere where he gets another deal for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I agree on all points you have there,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think whoever trades from, I don't think

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Speaker 3: they's thinking they're gonna win this year anyway.

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Speaker 5: I think like teams were looking like like an Atlanta hoss,

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Speaker 5: like can he get us?

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, like the playoffs, or team like Detroit. Is

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Speaker 4: he the missing piece?

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Speaker 2: You don't trade for a D for a future.

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Speaker 5: No net trade for him for next like you're trying

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Speaker 5: to make a serious run this year.

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Speaker 4: I think like that's.

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Speaker 1: And you got to think about a D's salary right now.

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Speaker 1: It's probably like fifty million for sure.

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Speaker 3: But the way it's trending, if I'm trading from, I'm

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Speaker 3: not thinking I'm for sure this year, this year, we're

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Speaker 1: And so that's what I think A D is trying

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Speaker 1: to push back against, like this idea that he can't

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Speaker 1: come back this year, because again, two months from now

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Speaker 1: several is more than one month, So let's let's be

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Speaker 1: generous to say it's two months from now.

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Speaker 2: It's March. The playoff starting April.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he has one month right Basically.

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Speaker 4: I think he's too much of a high risk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I said it's a hot team. I

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Speaker 3: want to win right now. I don't think would trade

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Speaker 3: for him right now. Yes, maybe some teams, but if

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Speaker 3: Those teams are like they're not risking or banking on

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Speaker 3: it because it's like, we know this is a project,

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Speaker 3: this is a high risk. It's like this is not

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Speaker 5: The guy has been there less than a year and

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Speaker 5: he's been injured three times.

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Speaker 3: Now that there was a long list of Yeah, Like he.

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Speaker 4: Got injured the first day of the trade.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then he was out of the season, then

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Speaker 4: Was it the first two games of the season.

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Speaker 3: He came back for the playing games at the end

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Speaker 3: of the year, Yes, he did. Heed. I think he

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Speaker 1: Game and this year they've been a way better team

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Speaker 1: than eighties in the lineup, which is like he's still

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Speaker 1: a very.

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Speaker 2: Good an effective player when he's actually on the court.

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Speaker 1: I just you know, I want to report, like, if

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Speaker 1: you could advise a d what would be his best

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Speaker 1: route to ensure that he could get basically what it

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Speaker 1: amount to his last payday. He's in his thirties already,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to envision that he would get anything past

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Speaker 1: this next deal that would be major money.

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Speaker 5: None of this has nothing to do with his ability,

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Speaker 5: Like we don't question his ability, Like how some guys

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Speaker 5: were questioning ability now that they're losing a step or

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Speaker 5: losing athleticism.

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Speaker 4: We're not questioning.

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Speaker 5: We're questioning, can he give us something that we're gonna

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Speaker 5: be paying them all this money available because it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be available.

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Speaker 4: That's the best ability. They say.

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Speaker 5: The best ability is availability, and that's the only thing

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Speaker 5: with him. Like people aren't trading for like Jah or

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Speaker 5: not line up trade for Joh because they feeling like

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Speaker 5: he's lost the steff. He probably lost the step or something.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know what's the best route or what

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Speaker 5: would I do if I'm a GM.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: This is a trade where I can make my job

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Speaker 5: or break my job depending on how this trade goes

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Speaker 5: if I trade broke me Cole Harrison's job.

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Speaker 4: Right, So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all I can say, I mean he

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Speaker 3: wants the years, right, he wants the max. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going to assume that's what Rich Paul is asking for.

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Speaker 3: Some he might have to come down a little bit

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Speaker 3: if you want the years. Now, if you want max money,

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Speaker 3: they might two or three years, but they're not going

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Speaker 3: to give you four.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying you probably it's gonna end up settling for

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Speaker 1: a Rudigo Beart type of deal where he came off

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Speaker 1: of what was his MAX but the extension that he

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Speaker 1: signed was for less than that, so he got the

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Speaker 1: years at a reduced rate, but it was still great money.

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Speaker 2: Like you wonder if AD take a little bit off this, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like give me forty five per year on this extension

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Speaker 1: and not the sixty something that he could get on

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Speaker 3: So who do you think is I am in that statement?

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Speaker 3: Because I mean I've never seen Ad go to social media.

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Speaker 3: I don't know he had exactly social media, so he was.

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Speaker 3: I think somebody's lying about something, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: either I don't think it's false information that he's getting surgery.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's false information that he's going to

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Speaker 3: be out a couple of months. I think it's more so.

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Speaker 2: We talk about betting all the time.

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Speaker 1: If Prize Pigs had a bet about a D being

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Speaker 1: on the court this year.

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Speaker 2: We'd be betting against it. So I don't know why

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Speaker 2: a D is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the hand should be fixed on the court for sure,

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Speaker 5: especially off I broke my hand and I was playing

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Speaker 5: in two weeks, gotcha, you know what I'm saying. Not

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Speaker 5: that it was here, but it's still it was my

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Speaker 5: off hand put on it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get back in like for like usually, but

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Speaker 3: if you get surgery, I'm saying for to six, six

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Speaker 3: to eight maybe, but that's still. I hope he gets back, man.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see him playing some meeting for

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Speaker 3: I want to see him get right. I was fortunate

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Speaker 2: He was incredible that year.

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Speaker 3: So we don't win without that, man, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I know what he can bring to

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Speaker 3: the table. Hopefully he can do that for another group,

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Speaker 3: whether it's Dallas or elsewhere. He's talented enough to get

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Speaker 3: the max money, but I understand why teams would not

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Speaker 3: want to do so in this situation. But he's definitely

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Speaker 3: he's good enough to get that.

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Speaker 1: And I will say, I think we're in a transition

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially with that help when Luca thing happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: turn the league upside down, bro, Like, na, we're not

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Speaker 3: just giving out money, no more to you got to

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Speaker 3: prove to us you're worth that, dude.

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Speaker 1: And it's not even just Luca, like even guys like

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Speaker 1: he's coming off of a MAX rookie extension and he's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, logically, Pelican should be giving me another MAX

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Speaker 1: exten No, we're going to trade you.

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Speaker 5: These MAX deals are harder to give out because that Like, say,

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Speaker 5: I'm in best three hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I'm the cap. I don't know if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: be available.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not part of a team that's perennially a

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Speaker 1: playoff team, perennially top five, top four seed.

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Speaker 4: I think there's only three MAX guys right now in

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that's worth it.

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Speaker 1: So and I think a d is gonna see that

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Speaker 1: Trey Young has already seen ban Ingra three.

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Speaker 5: Max guys right now, that's worth it, Winn, Yama, Joker.

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Speaker 3: And Shay Shane and Joker, I agree for sure, and

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Speaker 3: Wama too. But I think it's all the guys that

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Speaker 3: I think is worth the max. Like he shows up

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Speaker 3: most nice about.

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Speaker 5: When he's not playing six. We're talking that three hundred plus.

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Speaker 5: Like I'll give you two, but three is a different level.

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Speaker 5: These guys they're MAX based on because he's a value

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Speaker 5: to their team. But like, if we just really look

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Speaker 5: at the max guys, there's three guys. Those three, like

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Speaker 5: the rest of y'all, we talk about tears of players.

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Speaker 5: There's this tier player and then there's another tier. You guys,

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Speaker 5: aren't this I feel you, But they're giving guys this

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Speaker 5: tier this month and.

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Speaker 4: Brown they're not in that tier.

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Speaker 5: They're not in the Shae, the Shay, Joker and a tier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm putting Jalen Brown and Cad in there.

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Speaker 2: So what people would say though today they're available.

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Speaker 3: Point is that they give you thirty every night to

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Speaker 3: the best two way player in the game, right now.

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Speaker 1: York, these guys are not worth all of that money

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Speaker 1: to those individual teams for what they do.

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Speaker 4: So the guy in Portland that y'all are boost for

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Speaker 3: Too right, I said, I said khe and Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 4: Give you thirty.

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Speaker 3: He don't play both. I didn't say that. I said

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Speaker 3: Danny Avia is worth not the super max, but he's

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Speaker 3: worth a max for sure. He's worth who Danny Avia.

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Speaker 3: He's worth us like a small like not super Jaylen Brown,

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Speaker 3: K Cunningham, Jalen Brunton said, it's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Be tough for me to give a point guard in

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Speaker 3: So to me, this is what this is my tyres Maxie.

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Speaker 5: If your team will be tough for me to play

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Speaker 1: Your team wins fifty something games a year and is

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Speaker 2: That's that's my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, if you're coming off of a lottery season

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Speaker 3: Really like like LaMelo like or Zion?

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Speaker 3: Get you, I get you.

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Speaker 1: I've been lottery with you, I lottery without you and

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Speaker 2: So that's the cutting off for me.

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Speaker 1: It's like, if you're part of something that's successful, management

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Speaker 4: For sure, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what I would say about these guys

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Speaker 3: The Max Jen Brown? Huh, Jaylen Brown? Jen Brown got

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Speaker 3: the man I'm saying. But you said the tier I

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Speaker 4: Well, there are still different tiers.

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Speaker 3: I don't don't disagree they are different tier.

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Speaker 5: Teslay right now is showing me that he's the best

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Speaker 3: Two way player, the best two way player players is

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Speaker 4: I think Jayleen is doing more with less.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because when I'm I mean, you got Defensive Player

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Speaker 5: He's been an Olympian, yeah, but he hasn't been an

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Speaker 5: All Star, right, and he could make it this year,

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Speaker 5: So you know, I think, yeah, Jaylen Brown is definitely

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Speaker 4: Like because I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I was want my point guards.

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Speaker 5: It says, I understand that numbers wise, Yes, he's a

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Speaker 3: That's the question I want to find out this.

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Speaker 4: I only think there's three.

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Speaker 5: Or four guys that can actually lead you to a title.

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Speaker 5: Like if you take certain players you put them on

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Speaker 5: that makes them instant contenders. That's what I think of

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Speaker 3: I think traditionally you say point guards are smaller, can't

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Speaker 5: I'm not putting them in that category because think about this.

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Speaker 5: Who are the point guards that's led their teams to

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Speaker 5: the championship? Them Isaiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, Steph Curry.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about top ten players all time.

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Speaker 5: All three of them down there, you can say are

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Speaker 5: top ten twenty players all time. Yeah, and so I'm

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Speaker 5: not putting Brentson in that category. So is it worth

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Speaker 3: My cap space.

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Speaker 5: For a guy who I don't think can lead us

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Speaker 1: I don't know how this turned into a Jalen Brunton

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Speaker 4: That's not.

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Speaker 2: What I would say is that the Knicks are not well.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he signed a contract that was less

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he probably has the best contract.

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Speaker 2: In the league.

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Speaker 1: But I would say the Knicks are in a position

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Speaker 4: Know, until they get somebody that's better than him.

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Speaker 3: Sure, maybe Cat's supposed to be, well, he he doesn't

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Speaker 3: saying he's supposed to be. He's a seventh foot big,

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Speaker 5: I mean, he got me the other day six one

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Speaker 3: Gotta Let's transition is still on the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: Though still on the Celtics, still on Jalen Brunts, excuse

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Speaker 1: me Jalen Brown, who's been fined thirty five K for

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Speaker 1: his criticism of the refs The other night, after Boston

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Speaker 1: he said, quote, they can find me whatever they want,

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Speaker 1: but it's crazy. Every time we play a good team,

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Speaker 1: it's the same bullshit. Somebody please pull up the clips.

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Speaker 1: Monday night, after the Celtics lost to the Pacers, Joe

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Speaker 1: Mizzoula expressed that he felt an illegal screen was missed

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Speaker 1: on the last play with Pascal Siakam hit the game winner.

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Speaker 1: Is the Celtics hate real. Are they not getting the

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Speaker 1: calls they deserve?

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Speaker 4: Paul, we all know that, we all know that.

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Speaker 3: We don't all know.

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Speaker 5: I just said this two weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: In the league and the press hate the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: There's a conspiracy probably in the history of the sport.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: I think after everybody went back and watched what's the

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Speaker 5: show that show.

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Speaker 2: Top five or starting five?

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Speaker 4: I started five with the Lakers that show when.

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Speaker 5: They run time, when they started showing behind the scenes

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Speaker 5: back in the day, how Red used to kind of

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of hate came from that, I.

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Speaker 3: Believe by bro. I think it's depending on where you're at,

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Speaker 3: who you're playing against. But there was a time where

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Speaker 3: y'all had Eric Eric Lewis was a referee.

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Speaker 4: I know who Eric Lewis is.

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Speaker 3: He's helped y'all out quite a bite right now. I

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Speaker 3: like Erics played them and cat bed went with the

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Speaker 3: and I like think Eric's great good referees. First with

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Speaker 3: Eric a.

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Speaker 5: Rocky rock First of all, the Lakers blew that game.

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Speaker 5: First of all they got was at the game when

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Speaker 5: Pat Beverly Jordan's at the down the stretch hit the

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Speaker 5: three came for the hip dunk should have won that game.

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Speaker 3: Bron got fouled at the end.

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Speaker 4: Of the calling. Yeah, I was that game.

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Speaker 5: It was a foul, Yes, But do they usually call

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Speaker 3: Like I've said, anybody else, they would have.

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Speaker 4: We just saw two nights ago. They showed Broun.

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Speaker 5: He showed them on tape shown He's like, they're not

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Speaker 5: calling those crazy enough.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the superstows that doesn't get a lot

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Speaker 3: of those like those calls those because he's such a

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Speaker 1: Celtics sort of especially Jalen Brown.

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Speaker 2: He had a horrible game. He was pissed off.

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch the game, but he still start.

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Speaker 2: Yelling about the reps. That just seems like what happened?

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Speaker 4: All right, how about this?

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Speaker 2: You played that?

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Speaker 4: Can you do this for me?

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Speaker 5: Can you tell me how many times did we foul

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Speaker 5: the Lakers twenty ten Game seven Finals? How many fouls

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Speaker 5: did they call on us?

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Speaker 3: We don't don't we can go back go back that far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we could go back to that sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Let's just go back to let's just go bout.

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Speaker 5: These balls that they call just in the four quarter

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Speaker 5: it was was it at home, it was in La.

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Speaker 4: We were winning the whole game.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, my second title and they just they just

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Speaker 3: But it happens game to game, twenty five pounds to

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Speaker 4: And at the end it game like five quick ones

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Speaker 3: Its game the game depending on what ARENI is.

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Speaker 4: You know what that means? Two thousand per minute, bro, listen.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard I have a hard time believing

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Speaker 3: Or Vendetta's one team. It's not.

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Speaker 1: It happened to the Celtics, like the Celtics wire boys

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Speaker 4: They treated the relegation burst the Celtics.

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Speaker 5: Was was Don Donahey that was against a lot of

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Speaker 2: A lot of his games is against you guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what it's other words to hate

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Speaker 3: I think there's times where y'all do get some calls.

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Speaker 3: But I was, but it's team the team. A lot

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Speaker 2: Celtics, y'all jump, shoot.

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Speaker 3: Legs, get holds, get holds.

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Speaker 2: Why are we pretending they should just get mad fouls

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Speaker 3: They Jalen text to room.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes No he does, but again he breaks a bunch

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Speaker 3: Yeah that was that was a couple. So this iteration

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Speaker 3: So he deserves some some calls. With the other night

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Speaker 3: like a bunch of people get away with it, so

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Speaker 2: Monday night, we had the nets at the MAVs.

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Speaker 1: Danny went two and two. I went one and three.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm getting colos. Paul wit three

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Speaker 1: and one.

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Speaker 4: I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: With our records now standing collectively, I'm twenty four and thirteen,

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Speaker 1: Danny is twenty and seventeen, Paul is twenty two fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Game behind you on two gays.

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Speaker 1: Listen man, I'm eleven games, over five hundred people pay.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, however you put it.

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Speaker 2: If you pick our pitch, will you're winning money?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Period, solid nights.

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Speaker 1: So and we picked MPJ to have more than twenty

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Speaker 1: five and a half.

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Speaker 2: All of us did.

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Speaker 1: He had twenty eight. Cooper flagged more than twenty one

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Speaker 1: and a half. Danny said more. Me and Paul said,

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Speaker 1: let's he had twenty seven. Pretty impressive. Camp Thomas more

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Speaker 1: or less than fourteen and a half. Danny said less,

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Speaker 1: Paul and I said more. He didn't play, so that

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Speaker 1: Paul said more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah, wife, yeah, wife. It was against Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: This was against Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Naji Marshall more, if you

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Speaker 1: got more, Danny and Watt said less. He had twenty

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Speaker 1: two points. So there you go. Now, let's get into

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Speaker 1: So Wednesday night, we got the Knicks at the Kings.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start this off with Carl Anthony Towns more

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Speaker 1: or less than nine and a half rebounds.

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Speaker 3: Paul rebounds it's a live for But if there's no civil.

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Speaker 4: This man get one rebound, I'm going less.

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Speaker 3: I would like to think when no sabonas he would

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Speaker 3: be active. I don't know if mister Robinson's playing. If

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Speaker 3: miss Robinson playing, he's gonna take up most of those boards.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say less. I'm gonna say less.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go more, just to zig Year, maybe call

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Speaker 1: Anthony Towns gets off, gets off to Schneid. Next up,

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Speaker 1: we mentioned Mitchell Robinson more or less than seven and

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Speaker 1: a half rebounds.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go more. So if I go less with Cat,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go more with Mitch Robinson. He's gonna get more,

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Speaker 3: to say, more and a half. And that's why Kat's

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Speaker 3: come probably less.

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Speaker 5: Paul, I'm gonna go. I think Kings are gonna play

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Speaker 5: a lot of small ball. I'm gonna last. It's gonna

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Speaker 5: be a lot of balls. He ain't gonna be able

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Speaker 5: to chase down Long off the rim, so I'm gonna last.

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Speaker 2: I'm going more with Mitchell Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Zach Lavine Danny's favorite player more or less than twenty

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Speaker 1: and a half points, Danny.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go less if they Damar has been cooking.

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Speaker 3: Last game. They all cooked, honestly, but when Lee came

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Speaker 3: out the bench of cooked, I don't see them shooting

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Speaker 3: that well. The Lakers as shot sixty five percent from three.

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Speaker 3: That's hard to do without decse. Honestly, they shot the

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Speaker 3: hell out of the ball. I think that Damorrow was

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Speaker 3: the membornge. I think he's gonna go. But I think

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Speaker 3: Zach Zach had like nineteen I'm gonna say more. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I think he gets like twenty one. I

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Speaker 3: think it's like twenty one.

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Speaker 2: All right, Paul zach Lavin, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Nicks got some strong perimal defenders. I'm going less.

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Speaker 1: I'm go less as well on Zach Devin the last,

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Speaker 1: but not least more or less than twenty four and

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Speaker 1: a half points for Jalen Brunson.

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Speaker 3: You clocked that for more. That's easy, easy more for me.

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Speaker 3: Sack don't got no defense.

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, he's gonna kill.

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Speaker 1: That's our Picks of the night, presented by Prize Picks.

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Speaker 3: Who do you guys think wins this game?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Sacramento is one of the worst teams in that.

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Speaker 3: They snapped it with their seven games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, played much better with Josh Harden the lineup, give

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Speaker 1: me the Knicks.

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Speaker 4: Give me the Knicks clean.

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Speaker 3: Sweet Again, you said was winning. They're not winning, bro,

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Speaker 3: That's the reason why Danny is being then All Star Game.

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Speaker 4: If you called that a good win.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, The Lagers defenses is so gross and they

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Speaker 3: don't shoot well.

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Speaker 5: The athleticism on the perimeter, you're getting twenty it's just

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Speaker 5: nasty right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Again, he said they were winning. I said, they're definitely not.

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Speaker 3: Like they'll when they get healthy to get Austin back

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Speaker 3: brewery back, like we'll. Still that shows you how the

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Speaker 3: West is definitely.

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Speaker 2: Better than what they're shown.

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Speaker 1: But I think in the last month they've got the

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Speaker 1: twenty eighth ranked defense in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Shot Also that the bottom of three, the thirtieth in

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Speaker 3: the league at three. So that doesn't help. It's tough, like,

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Speaker 3: if you're not gonna pay defense, at least shoot the ball. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So let's get right into Jah Morant.

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Speaker 1: Recently, our homie Rachel Nichols reported on her podcast Open

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Speaker 2: That Jah Morant actually wants to go to Miami. That's

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Speaker 2: his socker preferred destination.

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Speaker 1: I think that's obvious socker that he would want to

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Speaker 1: be there, which I think is kind of foolhardy because

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Speaker 1: bro like they have a different program over there in

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Speaker 1: terms of their expectations and accountability even for star players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, job, and that struck me as a could be

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Speaker 3: his last Like they can make it to where this

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Speaker 3: would be your last stop, like have a lot of

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Speaker 3: influence on the rest of the league and some people's

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Speaker 3: careers after that. So kind of like the Spurs organization

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like you can make a break or

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Speaker 3: dictate what happens to the rest like the rest of

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Speaker 3: your career after So I saw.

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Speaker 1: A clip of Gilbert Areena is saying that Heat don't

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Speaker 1: have assets that the Grizzlies would want.

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Speaker 3: They have assets.

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Speaker 1: I think they do. And look, we just saw Trey

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Speaker 1: Young go for CJ.

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Speaker 7: McCollum and and Corey Kispert like no picks value. I

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Speaker 7: think he has a higher value, but it's definitely not

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Speaker 7: as high.

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Speaker 3: But it's not as high as it was.

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Speaker 2: No nowhere close obviously got when he was.

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Speaker 3: Ham Hokaz over there, you got Yovich or no got

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Speaker 3: firing contract with Wiggans.

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Speaker 1: Where who I think is probably off the table for

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Speaker 1: these purposes.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the Heat have plenty.

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Speaker 3: To offer Yovich like some solid young guys.

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Speaker 1: But I wonder, Paul, I really do wonder about this

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Speaker 1: fit in terms of temperament and Jah and his dad

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Speaker 1: and Yo this these guys don't appreciate me and this

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Speaker 1: idea that the world has let ja down and not.

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Speaker 2: Him being a complete disappointment. I don't know that that match,

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Speaker 2: that marriage is one made in heaven.

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Speaker 5: Listen, I didn't say Spoe turned ship into sugar, straight up,

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Speaker 5: like if anybody can.

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Speaker 3: Do it, if Miami can't do it, nobody count.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think I respect what has been

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Speaker 5: able to bring to his Miami team as Miami Heat

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Speaker 5: teams who've overachieved in my eyes in the last since

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Speaker 5: the Lebron era and the way the yeah, and so

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Speaker 5: you know, if he can get anybody to buy in,

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Speaker 5: it will be jumming out because I think he knows

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Speaker 5: when you're a player, that's like teetering on.

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Speaker 4: Just messing with your money, messing with you being one

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Speaker 4: of the elites.

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Speaker 5: I think when you get some fresh air and you

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Speaker 5: back to where your your mind is right, you know,

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Speaker 5: and you can say, all right, I just want to

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Speaker 5: hoop again and go back to being who you were

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Speaker 5: that got you the shoes that got you. At one

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Speaker 5: point were talking about him being the face of the league,

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Speaker 5: and so sometimes people just need a break from where

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Speaker 5: they at and get out of that, get out their

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Speaker 5: comfort zone. Because Miami is definitely out your comfort zone.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna be practicing where you're probably not practicing. The

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Speaker 5: Memphis you're gonna get coached to where you probably ain't

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Speaker 5: getting coached like youre gonna get coached here.

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Speaker 4: So this is right up what I said a few

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Speaker 4: days ago, right up his alley. This is what he needs.

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Speaker 3: Do you like this fit?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 3: Again, I don't. I mean, I like to see him

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Speaker 3: team up with another star, but I don't think that

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Speaker 3: that coaching or atmosphere is best to shape him like

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Speaker 3: this one is, like he said Spoe pat Riley, like

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Speaker 3: they have a good system there to keep guys. And again,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think he's also I'm mature something, he's

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Speaker 3: gotten older. His dad is also not. Like he's kind

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Speaker 3: of staying loone out the way. He ain't doing too much.

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Speaker 3: They all chilling. And I also think when you have

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Speaker 3: an abundance of the resource you don't like, you don't

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Speaker 3: like sink not sink it out, like it's not sought

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Speaker 3: out as much like I don't need to go in

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Speaker 3: the club everything and if in Memphis is not much

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Speaker 3: going on, And.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Jazz like the crazy club guy, especially

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Speaker 1: since some of the more public stuff.

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Speaker 3: Is he's quieted down. I think he's doing more in

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Speaker 3: house stuff. But again, when you have the resources of

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Speaker 3: the bars, the club, strip clubs like better than you

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Speaker 3: like you have to go as much like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: watch it. You don't have to feel like, oh I'm

668
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: in a new city, now I got to hit the strip,

669
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: because it ain't nothing in Memphis, you know what I'm saying.

670
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: So he's gonna be there, he'll have the resources, and

671
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: he'll be practiced, he'll be focused in that atmosphere. They

672
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: run a tight ship. I think they'll have it more

673
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: like locked in, and he'll want to be more likely

674
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: because he respects I would like to think he respects

675
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: that type of coaching staff with Riley and Spoe, like Hesilo,

676
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know if

677
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: he even signed off on that.

678
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: So just a couple of things.

679
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: I do.

680
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, I wonder about Jo's mindset in terms

681
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: of accountability and realizing that maybe he does need to

682
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: change certain things about his approach. It hasn't been very

683
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: effective the last few years. So hopefully he has the

684
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: humility to do that. And I would just hope, like

685
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: you guys both said the credibility and the prestige associated

686
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: with pat Riley and Eric Spolstra, that they could come

687
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: in and say to job like, look, this is what

688
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: the program is, and this is what we expect of you.

689
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: I think that's what sposure is probably the best that

690
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: when you hear his ex players talk about him, is

691
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: like he's really good at defining roles, defining what your

692
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: expectation is, and then you go out and just do

693
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: that because you know exactly what's expected of you. I mean,

694
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: I have the utmost respect for Spolstra, always believe in

695
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: his ability to rehabilitate and get the best.

696
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: Out of guys.

697
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: It's just with Jah, you know, it just hasn't felt

698
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: like that's been his number one priority. And like Paul

699
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: said about the change of scenery to me, when you're

700
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: in an organization where you basically got treated like the

701
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: boy prince from the day you got you know, drafted

702
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: there like you're the savior.

703
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: Basically you're the team's Jesus Christ figure.

704
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: So you go to Miami. It's not You're not gonna

705
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: just be like some other guy. But it's like, Bro,

706
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: we've accomplished it here. We've had superstars here. This isn't

707
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: our first rodeo. We're not gonna be kissing your ass

708
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: all day, which I think Joah needs so.

709
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: Elsewhere in the association.

710
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: Man, this rich Paul clip, I'm not gonna lie kind

711
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: of got on my nerves.

712
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: Why I like I like them. I like their pod bro.

713
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: They got some good ship going on.

714
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: Ship what they're doing content wise, But yeah, just play

715
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: the clip.

716
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 8: The Lakers have options the Lakers. If I was the

717
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 8: Lakers I would probably be targeting the Memphis Grizzlies as

718
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 8: a trade partner for Jaron Jackson.

719
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be a great fit.

720
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: I would.

721
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 8: I would, I would for whom. Well, that's the thing,

722
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 8: because you got to figure out the package. But some way, somehow,

723
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 8: I would be trying to get Jaron Jackson, maybe get

724
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 8: back Gigi Jackson, Jackson and Jackson associates because he's a

725
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 8: young player that you can you can develop, got good size,

726
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 8: can shoot the ball. But I think if you're building

727
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 8: around Luca going forward, which they are, you.

728
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: Need a guy like you need that anchor.

729
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 8: And Jaren doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild.

730
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 8: They just put John Morant on the market right saying

731
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 8: that they're willing to trade him.

732
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: Et cetera.

733
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 8: It's a great so I think that would be a

734
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 8: trade partner for me. Now the package just goes out,

735
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 8: is what you have to decide.

736
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: I think we got enough.

737
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: We got to just the way he's saying, I don't

738
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: like the idea of my teammates agent trading me on

739
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: his podcast.

740
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: That's crazy to.

741
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: Me, like like like, like how am I supposed to

742
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: feel showing up to work with bron Like your agent.

743
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: Is stumping for me to get traded to goddamn Memphis.

744
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: I like my life in LA I would love to

745
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: get my Max.

746
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: And do what I do with the franchise that believes

747
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: in me and you know I've turned it to a

748
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: star at I don't know.

749
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: Am I crazy for thinking this is a bit over

750
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: the line.

751
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 5: You're not crazy for thinking that, but you're not gonna

752
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 5: say MS ain't about to go up the bron and

753
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 5: practice like like, hey, yo, what's up?

754
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: What's your probably like bruh, you know what, Let's do

755
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: it now. It's not way.

756
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: You're not crazy, bro. But the way he presented it

757
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: wasn't like, oh, we for Shorty to trade Austin. He

758
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: just said we want to get Jaron Jackson, and I

759
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: think that makes sense. That makes sense. And he's like,

760
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: you know, he said expiring contracts, but no, Memphis, I'm

761
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: just gonna want that type of piece in return. And

762
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: Austin he's like he's beloved, he deserves to get paid,

763
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: and the Lakers don't want to pay him, which it

764
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: seems like they're not giving that. Like if you're reluctant

765
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: to let somebody else do it.

766
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 5: I don't feel good about giving Austin Reeds. Nobody does

767
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 5: max contract oh.

768
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: Two hundred, probably two hundred to get it.

769
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: I don't feel good because.

770
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: Like, but not as a Laker, but his max is

771
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: lot like he's only his tenure, right, isn't it a

772
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: lot lower than I.

773
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 5: Don't know what the number is, but I don't feel good.

774
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: I think somebody I think, I think he's gonna get

775
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 5: a lot of money from somebody else. But if I'm

776
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 5: the Lakers building around Luca, like, like Ris Paul said,

777
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: I don't want to throw five hundred million into my

778
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 5: back court.

779
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: I need a more of a balance.

780
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: Now.

781
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 4: Will Austin Reeves get that money?

782
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 5: Yes, I just don't think that's a good number for

783
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: the Lakers because of what he's worked his value up

784
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 5: to be.

785
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: I'm not sure you.

786
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 5: Can build around a Luca Austin Reeves back court the

787
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: way the league is, with the speed and the dynamics

788
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 5: of defense and three point shooting.

789
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 4: That's not a good recipe for winning. Just my opinion.

790
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: But I just would I like him, man, I like

791
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 3: him together. Honestly. I think those are two good players

792
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: you can build around. Honestly, Like, I mean, he's not Kyrie,

793
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: but he you know, he does the scoring in that

794
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: type of sense. He's a bigger guard, you know. Defensively,

795
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a lot. He's not a great defender,

796
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 3: but I don't think he's a liability.

797
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he's any worse than Kyrie Irving.

798
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: Is that what I'm saying.

799
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: So Thatas went to the finals.

800
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So if you get to keep

801
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 3: those two talented.

802
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 4: Pieces, can you put around them?

803
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: You gotta find shit shooting and you find again, I mean,

804
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 3: if Lebron is done, if Lebron is done playing after

805
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: this year, how much money comes off the books?

806
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: But the sixty add that again.

807
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: You add some also will get like, but there's still

808
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: some money that I'm saying. And I'm not trying to

809
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: retire Brown right now, but at some point he's gonna retire. Yeah,

810
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some money. So you can have those

811
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: two guys and another third guy as the caps going

812
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: up that you can kind of get some money to.

813
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: And that's those two guys and a big not necessarily drafted,

814
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: but you could be the finding a draft or find

815
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: somebody else freedency that's a big like that that can

816
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: be another cornerstone. And then you surround those guys with shooters.

817
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying three and d guys if you can, and

818
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: that's definitely a formula for winning. Yeah, I don't know,

819
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: I think they just don't have a lot of draft

820
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: capital to build in, Like.

821
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: I don't really know.

822
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: The path outside of signings to balance out the rossickause,

823
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: like you said, they don't have a lot of pieces

824
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: in terms of draft picks for young guys that you

825
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: could be like, oh, internally, we're gonna improve.

826
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: So I like the rookie they got though. I like

827
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: the rookie. Yeah, he could play just Lakers thorough.

828
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: I just don't no, I think Austin has proven that he's,

829
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, he's deserving of forty something million a year

830
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: in terms of salary, right, I don't know that.

831
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure there'll be some wiggle rooms.

832
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: I still want to see if he does in the

833
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: playoffs this year though.

834
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: His absolute, absolute max.

835
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that they will necessarily have to do

836
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: that because it's not like he could even get that

837
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: somewhere else.

838
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: So I think they'll be able to play within that.

839
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they saved like forty, they can save like forty. Yeah,

840
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 3: so you know, you like five years two hundred right.

841
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Well, seems to me it's just about a team dynamic.

842
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: I remember Bron's first year in LA and then with

843
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: the constant remember they were trying to get a d

844
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: I need to be a thing, and the eight thing

845
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: didn't end up happening until Boston might be hiring bro

846
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: until the off season. But I remember distinctly brandon Ingram

847
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: playing three times four times better after the trade deadline

848
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: that season because he was no he was no longer

849
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: obviously worried about being shipped to New Orleans, Right.

850
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: I think this kind of stuff affects people on your team.

851
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: So this was a This was a big debate on

852
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: another podcast. They was saying, would you want to know?

853
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: That's kind of the way he's not saying get him

854
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: his agent is talking about He's not saying get him

855
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: out of He's just like he's prefacing like an example

856
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: or an idea of you being in a trader. I'm

857
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: not saying get awesome out of here, but that's all

858
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: I'm so.

859
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: So the question.

860
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: It so the question is like if trade scenarios. They

861
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 3: had this argument in another pot that I saw, like

862
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: would you want to know prior to before it happening

863
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: or you just want it to just happen that like

864
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: we rather happened out of the blue. Yeah, Like if

865
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: you were in a in a.

866
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: Trade depends on the statue of the player.

867
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 4: I think.

868
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: So, I mean, so you like you say you was

869
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: say you're looking, would you want to know, like a

870
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: couple weeks before or you just okay with not knowing

871
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: it all, just being like.

872
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: Well, I want to know if I'm on the trading block,

873
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: I'm a key piece of course. I mean, if you

874
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 5: don't understand what goes in again trading. I never had

875
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: to experience that, And we talked about this on one

876
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 5: of the episodes, and when we get traded in the

877
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 5: middle of a season.

878
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: I never had to experience that, and so I like,

879
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: I would want to know.

880
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely same. I've been through trades mostly off season,

881
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: done regularly during the mid season.

882
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: So, like I said, uh, we'll see what comes.

883
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: Is that another team has been floated in terms of

884
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: being interested in John Morant potentially is the Timberwolves.

885
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: I like that, but I don't know trade a R

886
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: for Ja Morant.

887
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, Yeah, no, I wouldn't, so like who were

888
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: done with Luca? He just does He doesn't shoot it

889
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: at all.

890
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: So you value Austin Reeves over Jahn Morant? Yeah? Luca?

891
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, he shoots the three lot better. He's just

892
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: he's not. He's as effective as without the.

893
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: Ball, bigger, get to the free throw line better.

894
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: And as much as people talk about Austin Reeves defense,

895
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: John's worse.

896
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: He's way worse. He doesn't even get in a defensive stance.

897
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: Bro he's not motivated right now.

898
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: And we'll see maybe not, but Austin right now I

899
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: think better. He's more valued for sure.

900
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: So there's even more trade news out there.

901
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: Jake Fisher of Yahoo Sports said they are keeping an

902
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: eye excuse me, Jake Fisher of Yahoo Sports said the

903
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: Lakers are keeping an eye on the Jonavan of the

904
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: on the Jonathan Kaminga situation in Golden State, Like what,

905
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't.

906
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 3: Know, RUI the same Packers they talking about for Dylan Brooks,

907
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 3: the Ruey gave Vincent Van Doo. Want to take that

908
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: through all of that in there, Gonna want that taking.

909
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: That they can, They'll take something. They'll take somebody that

910
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: that can be in rotation. My thing is.

911
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: Kaminga those guys like so vand Gabe Ruy and it

912
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: was gonna They're.

913
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 5: Gonna play, gonna play game, gonna play because he can shoot.

914
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: You just don't like they don't like.

915
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: I don't think Van Gave Gave maybe, but this is

916
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: a smaller guard, Like I don't see them being intricate pieces. Yeah,

917
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: I don't saying, buddy, but he'lls but here playing but

918
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: he heels like a piece over there. That's similar to

919
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: those guys. He's not playing.

920
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how the Lakers get this deal.

921
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 3: He's barely playing, like he's playing off the bench.

922
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: At the same time, the Warriors, like, how can you

923
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: expect somebody to give you something of value when you

924
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: basically let the entire.

925
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Day you know you don't value this dude.

926
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I don't like his teams. This is

927
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: what the problem with the league is right now.

928
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 5: These owners and gms are doing such a bad job

929
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 5: devaluating their best assets.

930
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: I think it's also because the gms and the which

931
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: is on different pages.

932
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, like, why would I want to put it

933
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 5: out there that John Moran is on that we're taking offers?

934
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 5: Why do I want to do that about Trey Young? Like, like,

935
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 5: you devalued him. So now everybody think they can fleece

936
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 5: you or I like to call it the Danny Ain

937
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 5: you or whatever.

938
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: But again, I think a lot of the issues stem from, Listen,

939
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: that's what your head coaches look like. If he's not

940
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: this type of player, like when you're going through the

941
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: draft process, if he don't like kaminga whatever it is,

942
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: it's IQT make sure we know that it's all right, Well,

943
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: we got to draft somebody different, that's all because we're

944
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: not going to draft a guy that we like a

945
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: lot that you're not going to play like he has

946
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: high value.

947
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: Calvin boof And and Mike Malone didn't speak to each

948
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: other for over a year, damn because Mike Malone refused

949
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: to play the young guys that Calvin Booth drafted. I

950
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: think Steve and Golden State management are just you know

951
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: that if you if you the one that saw potential

952
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: in the guy and you went out and drafted him,

953
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: it's natural that you're gonna want to see that flourish

954
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: because you feel an attachment to your belief Right where

955
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: Steve curR is trying to win games on a night tonight,

956
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: basically he's like, yeah, but this dude can't execute our

957
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: vision for how we win basketball games.

958
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: And so Kamena.

959
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: To me, the problem with him and Golden State is

960
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: like a kind of misalignment where Kaminga thinks he's a

961
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: potential star and Golden State's like, no, you're not be

962
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: a great role player.

963
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: And he's just bucked up against that.

964
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: And is he gonna be happier in La I mean,

965
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll like the city of La a lot more.

966
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: Wherever he can get, you know.

967
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: And they need some young athletic like you said wings to,

968
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 3: who like to keep up with the rest of the league.

969
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: They need somebody, some youth out there.

970
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to a really cool story.

971
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: H d Rose getting this flyer. He's going to have

972
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: his jersey retire this month, and in honor of that,

973
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: let's listen to this Derek Rose clip about playing the

974
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: NBA champion Celtics squad.

975
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: Who's retiring to jersey body else. I couldn't see nobody

976
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: else doing.

977
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 6: It when Rondo was pressuring the shit out of me,

978
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 6: and like you got three Hall of Famers telling him

979
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 6: and everybody being on the same accord, and they just

980
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 6: being they trying to scare you with their voice. Hey

981
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 6: we over here standing them over here, just talking. But

982
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 6: for a rook that can intimidate you, You feel what

983
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 6: I'm saying, but for me, I'm laughing at it. I

984
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 6: want you to see him laughing at it, so that

985
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 6: you see that intimidation is not shaking me. Bro, try

986
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 6: something else. You're really gonna have to fiul me. You're

987
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: gonna really have to like physically do something to me.

988
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 6: But in order to meet the stop going.

989
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Will you remember about that Derek Rose series, Bron, when

990
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: I tell you, I think he was like, uh, was

991
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: he either second.

992
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: Year or a rookie? Year two?

993
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: Rondo second year? He was a rookie.

994
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: I think, no class, no older than him. Rondo was

995
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: like in his third or fourth year. Rose came in.

996
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 4: But I but I remember from that series, I was

997
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: just like, and it was only one other rookie.

998
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 5: I felt like that when we played against him in

999
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 5: that era, that he just was unphased by the moments

1000
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 5: because this was playoffs, and like he said, we was talking.

1001
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: We was intimidating because we're gonna be talking and send

1002
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 5: him this way. Our defense was so intimidating, just how

1003
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 5: loud he was, and it just seemed how unphased he was.

1004
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: And then this is Rondo. Rondo had built up some equity.

1005
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 5: You defender and as a champion at the point guard

1006
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 5: to where it's like, you ain't about to just be

1007
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 5: going at Rondo like that, and for him for them

1008
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 5: to go back and forth the way they was, I

1009
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 5: was like, man, I ain't see nobody really go at

1010
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 5: Rondo like this like and to be a young guard

1011
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 5: in his second season two the only other guard I

1012
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 5: seen was like Kyrie did that, But it wasn't the

1013
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 5: playoffs because Kyrie came into Boston and beat us on

1014
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 5: a bad Cleveland team.

1015
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: Oh, I was like, who is this kid?

1016
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 5: He was unwaivered about like us our traps, our schemes

1017
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 5: and all that. But Dereck Rowse is special and he's

1018
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 5: so deserving of his jersey getting retired. I mean, he's

1019
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 5: one of the one of the biggest what if stories,

1020
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 5: you know, because a guy who was the youngest MVP

1021
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 5: of the league. I mean, I think he was steal

1022
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 5: in this roockey contract when he won his MVP And

1023
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 5: who knows his trajectory if he doesn't get hurt, because

1024
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 5: up until that point, we haven't seen a guy in

1025
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 5: my generation douced what he did as a like, could

1026
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 5: you imagine you're making two million a year you're the MVP?

1027
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 5: And that's the reason we have the rules the way

1028
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 5: the collective barn agree and changed. He changed the rules

1029
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 5: because of how great he was. And so, you know,

1030
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 5: my hats off to him. Eventually they might need to

1031
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 5: put a statue of him out there. I mean, being

1032
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 5: they could understand the immense pressure you have from being

1033
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 5: not only the number one pick.

1034
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: To Chicago, but being from Chicago. Yeah, that's huge, Like

1035
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: the pressures.

1036
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 5: Of that alone and carrying a Bulls team this close

1037
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: to a title, like having to go through Celtics, having

1038
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 5: to go through Lebron.

1039
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: I mean it was rough for him.

1040
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: He was the youngest VP ever, right, yeah, yeah, And so.

1041
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, my hats off.

1042
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: I think people might some people that don't understand Derek

1043
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: Rose's impact might be like why would the Bulls bey

1044
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: retire in Jersey to win a championship? You know, career

1045
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: got kind of derailed by injuries and stuff like that.

1046
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: But if you talk to people who are from the

1047
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: city of Chicago, basically, this guy's name had been buzzing

1048
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: since he was in like eighth grade, and his high

1049
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: school games were legendary, Like people were so amazed by

1050
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: what he was doing, Like he captured the imagination the

1051
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: whole city as a high school player, right, like legendary

1052
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: high school runs. So when the Bulls get the first

1053
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: pick and Derek Rose comes, and not only like is

1054
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: he the hometown hero and he's got all the potential,

1055
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: he's fucking delivering on it. You know, two straight sixty

1056
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: plus win seasons, they go to the conference finals that

1057
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: first or that MVP year, end up losing to the Heatles,

1058
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: and then the second year they win another sixty games

1059
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: again and they're basically ready to take on the heat again,

1060
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: and then he hurt himself against Philly. But like if

1061
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: you just kind of had to be there when Derek

1062
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: Rose was doing what he was doing in Chicago, and

1063
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: I do think he deserves to have his jersey retire

1064
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: because he's just one of the most special players in

1065
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: the franchise's history.

1066
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely couldn't say it any better, bro, I can give

1067
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 3: you my He's definitely one of the top five hardest

1068
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: guys I've had the guard. I always put him like

1069
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: early years and you have listened at six to four.

1070
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: But people don't realize, like he just seems small because

1071
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: he was running like he's like a little running back

1072
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: loaded the ground and I'm trying to chase this motheruck.

1073
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: He's fast at Ship and he's running around Booze Joe

1074
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: Kim setting these screens and out of nowhere, he's jumping

1075
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: up with the trees. I'm like, oh, Ship, Like he

1076
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: just jump over to Timmy Like know what I'm saying.

1077
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: It's a little guard, just like a running I'm like,

1078
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm like guards trying to keep up. I'm like, oh.

1079
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: Then he goes baseline. He had the top of the

1080
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 3: square two hands. I'm like, oh, Ship, this is different.

1081
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: So seeing him do that and trying to guard him,

1082
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 3: I was like, nah, bro, like, we gotta we gotta,

1083
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: we got sending a lot of help. We gotta figure out,

1084
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: and he was. I guess the reason why he's one

1085
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 3: of the top five hardest people obviously had to you know,

1086
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: play against her guard. And then once he developed the

1087
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 3: floater in the mid range, and because obviously he's fast

1088
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: and athletic, but once he developed a jumper and that

1089
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 3: to hear that longest floated from deep too, he was

1090
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: damned unstoppable.

1091
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 7: Bro.

1092
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: But they were a good team. Gotta give a lot

1093
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: of credits, you know, Booze Joe Kim like They had

1094
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 3: a lot of guys that set screens played their role

1095
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: as well, but he led the team. He was doing

1096
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 3: all that above the rim, rocking the cradle, all type

1097
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: of crazy shit in the break and he just he's

1098
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: six or four, but he just seemed like a smaller

1099
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: dude like Hal Jazz and just explosive, like, oh shit,

1100
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: where the fuck did that come from?

1101
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shasta, Derek Rose and Shasta the Bulls fans.

1102
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: I know that'll be a great night for the fans

1103
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: in the building when they, you know, retired d Roses Jersey.

1104
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into foul or no foul here, guys.

1105
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks again always seems to be in the middle

1106
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: of some kind of controversy. He airballed what would have

1107
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: been a game winning three pointer in the Sun's game

1108
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: against the Heat last night and instead got a flagrant

1109
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: foul for pulling Andrew Wiggins to the ground.

1110
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: The Heat would going to win the game. Thoughts on

1111
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: this flagrant foul by killing Brooks? Was he doing too much.

1112
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: So he thought he got filed? Oh so, no, so

1113
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: nobody fouled you? Oh wow? They called the flager on that. Wiggs.

1114
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: Wiggs sold it to everybody's selling it right now. What's

1115
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: going on? That's a flagrant? Just a little arm girl,

1116
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 3: he liket arm down a little bit. What he's trying

1117
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: to sell A call?

1118
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 4: Damn, that's what you know. You bring.

1119
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 5: It's like, damn, I gotta do something to just kind

1120
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 5: of see if I can get a bad call.

1121
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: This is This was at least his third airball three

1122
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: this game.

1123
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: By the way, I mean how many flagre Because you

1124
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: get suspended for certain aount of flair guns, then Rudy

1125
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 3: Gobert get suspended for like having six flagrant flowers or

1126
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: something like that. You get six or some certain points,

1127
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: certain amount of points of flagguns, you get suspended. Rudy

1128
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: Gobert I think just got suspended recently for it. I

1129
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 3: don't know how many flagir guns he's got.

1130
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: But Brooks might be getting into the Ronald test zone

1131
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: with these fouls.

1132
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've seen I've seen coke smack. I'm saying

1133
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: I've seen coke smack jump or.

1134
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 2: But ron was doing ship like and when he elp

1135
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: o chas.

1136
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: You know, like Dylan Brooks is creeping into that zone

1137
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: right now with all of the extras that he's always doing.

1138
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: It, and I get it.

1139
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: It's part of his intimidation factor or whatever. It's a

1140
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: part of how he plays. He plays with him.

1141
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: But today's world, and you know they got cameras, they're

1142
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: gonna review this ship. You can't. You can't do this

1143
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: no more.

1144
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: Take a shot, make it terrible reaction. But is this

1145
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 2: foul of no foul Paull.

1146
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 3: I think it's on his fucking face.

1147
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: Bro, who he is?

1148
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 5: It's brand, yeah, I mean because he knew he missed

1149
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 5: the shot, so it's like, damn. I mean, I'm gonna

1150
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 5: go for like maybe the refer give me a bad call.

1151
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I was right on brand for him though.

1152
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: He was like, you know, yeah, I don't know. I mean,

1153
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a flagrant, man, I think

1154
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: it's a fact, like it's an offensive file hair.

1155
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 5: Though this is the thing, because he missed the shot,

1156
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 5: his team gets the offensive rebound and you got that flagrant.

1157
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you take them and give them no shot.

1158
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: At He's again I said the line that we talked

1159
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: about that you're now teetering with that line of costing

1160
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,959
Speaker 3: your team. He's going over it like the fourth quarter,

1161
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 3: like you don't want to cost your team games. Put

1162
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: yourself like that the chest bump to Lebron like now

1163
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: gives them free throw, Like you don't want to be

1164
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 3: ejected out of the game, cost yourself or at the

1165
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: deciding calls at the end of the game. Put yourself

1166
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: in those positions like all right, beginning of the game,

1167
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 3: first half, maybe even third quarter of you right off

1168
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 3: quarter end of the game, like be on your p's

1169
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: and q's. Don't cost yourself or yourself money or your

1170
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: team the game.

1171
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, that's why it's a foul because it's

1172
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: it's it's not like timing situation, man, Like, it's a

1173
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: time and place for some of these antics. And the

1174
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: biggest clutchest moments is just not keep your head in

1175
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: the game. So Scottie Barnes got a tech on Monday night,

1176
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: and I want you guys to say, follow no foul.

1177
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 2: Did he earn this tech right here?

1178
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: What did he say? Oh?

1179
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 4: An't like that?

1180
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: Like that was childish.

1181
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: I mean he was like.

1182
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: Some fourth graders dude.

1183
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I know a lot of kids watching

1184
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 3: like there's a sportsmanship thing that they got to make

1185
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 3: sure things.

1186
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 4: Clean, but.

1187
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: Has to keep their composure. Yeah, like I've seen, like,

1188
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: we've seen so much worse. Hat like a lot of

1189
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 3: different stars have talked to him in different ways, and

1190
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 3: the game is not like this, this emotional game. Guys

1191
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: gonna show some passion, they're gonna get upset. You know,

1192
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 3: you can't be that sensitive when you're refe you have

1193
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: very tough skin.

1194
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 2: As referee, Paul, you are you cool with the mocking

1195
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: of the ref?

1196
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 5: I'm cool with that, not because I come from a

1197
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 5: different error the ref like you, Like we used to

1198
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 5: talk ship to the reraf, but the ref might talk

1199
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 5: ship back to you, might be like, make the goddamn shot.

1200
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 5: The refs had way more gangster. Yeah, they look at

1201
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 5: you crazy, like like you look at them crazy. Look

1202
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 5: at you crazy, like.

1203
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: You ain't doing ship. He ain't doing it. Beginning Tobody say.

1204
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 4: The last live shot, run that cour the rapper talked

1205
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: back to you like these refs don't got no sense

1206
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 4: of humor.

1207
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes also yeah, that's true.

1208
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: But also to me, I think, why the league this

1209
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: this optics issue yet?

1210
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: A woman?

1211
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's it doesn't matter who

1212
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: it is, like if you do certain waves the clap

1213
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: like they're doing certain ship because the kids are watching.

1214
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: They don't want you bouncing the ball or clapping at

1215
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 3: refs or throwing a punch like an air punch. There's

1216
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 3: certain things that like certain textics. They're just like, oh,

1217
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: we're cleaning that up because we don't want kids.

1218
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: She ain't care about the game.

1219
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: It's just a tech. I wish we had some video

1220
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: or some just yeah, because this is just saying a

1221
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: technok like this to me in a tech do this

1222
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: like when you wave somebody like that's not a tech tech.

1223
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 4: I mean you would get a like you used to

1224
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 4: conduncle somebody and look them in.

1225
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: You can't even do that.

1226
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: They ca it t Yeah, we got to keep that

1227
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: kind of stuff in the game. Yeah, I think I

1228
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: think there's no foul here, but you know, God just

1229
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: having a little fun. And listen, I'm talking about how

1230
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: it looks like some people might not understand the context,

1231
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: but they just they're just looking at this six foot

1232
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: eight dude.

1233
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: These was hell just yelling at a chick.

1234
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: And that's why it shouldn't be heard like like one

1235
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: of the other referees.

1236
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you're doing too much, Scotty.

1237
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Scott let him. One of the men pull a tech.

1238
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: All right, all right, so we want to end the

1239
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: show with some struggle because.

1240
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: This is crazy. Came out crazy enough. I don't know

1241
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 3: if you talked to the homie at the gate. He

1242
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: let me in through the gate. He was like, we

1243
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: got a free honest bro. He was like, Yo, they

1244
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: lost the Minnesota bout.

1245
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: But he said, but Danny said he could never request

1246
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: the trade.

1247
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 4: Out of it.

1248
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: He said, he said, yo, Milwaukee just lost the fucking

1249
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 3: Minnesota about like thirty with no ad free honest man.

1250
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 4: Man, this is crazy.

1251
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: And Edwards did not playt played.

1252
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: It turned this around and South is the season they

1253
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: like booed at home by their.

1254
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 3: Own fan, got booed at home my own I played

1255
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: in Philly, so it happened. It's not Philly, but.

1256
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: Buck fans booed the team when they would're down thirty.

1257
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 4: Yes, we're doing that.

1258
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, saying boom fuck y'all don't us.

1259
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 3: He's like, yea, howday y'all. Look at the Nasais over there, boy,

1260
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,959
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, nas hyped over there. You're down Thirty's nuts.

1261
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: You're yelling at your hand because they're boring your garbage play.

1262
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 3: That's it's not him though. It's a seem they're yelling,

1263
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 3: but he's like, Yo, I'm still here. Don't be disrespectful, Bro.

1264
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: I want y'all Chip, don't fuck it?

1265
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 4: Move man? Have you done for me lately?

1266
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: Yo?

1267
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 4: For me lately?

1268
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: Not a minute and they're down thirty.

1269
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 3: It happens, Bro, Somethnight's happened.

1270
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: Bro.

1271
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess you.

1272
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 5: Gotta feel like if you got the player likenest the

1273
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 5: calories that should never had.

1274
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 3: I don't every superstar is lost by third. Anybody's lost.

1275
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: You played in this league long enough. You lost by

1276
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: thirty four hours. Yes, everybody's looks about thirty. I don't

1277
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: give for Lebron because, Luke Paul, you've lost by thirty

1278
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: at one point.

1279
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 2: Pattern of the season.

1280
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: It's not just a one off turning into a disastrous

1281
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: It's not only because.

1282
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 3: They're losing games, but not every game is thirty though.

1283
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: Sure, but you want to see some fight, man.

1284
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 3: It's not they don't have the ross.

1285
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 5: I think it's that they're down thirty. It's that they're

1286
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 5: down thirty and they have a losing record.

1287
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 4: Should if you're a winning team and you lose and

1288
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 4: have a game.

1289
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 3: Like, okay, I agree, No, Minnesota, you shouldn't know. But

1290
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: I've seen. We saw thirty and we saw Charlotte lose.

1291
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, see lose Charlotte by thirty the.

1292
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 4: Best record in the league and defending champs like all

1293
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 4: valan mud in the.

1294
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: Face, like you're part of this. Yeah, come on, you're

1295
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: part of this.

1296
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: You gotta wear this, brother, Yeah, rightfully. So they deserve

1297
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 3: the people.

1298
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: They deserve this. It's just I don't know this Milwaukee thing.

1299
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: There by the way, if you like I told y'all,

1300
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: if Joannis doesn't play hardball, they're not gonna trade this.

1301
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely no, I wouldn't. I mean, why would I trade you?

1302
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: You ad no not.

1303
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 3: They gotta do a lot of There's gotta be a

1304
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: lot of turning, bro.

1305
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: They got a certain point. You gotta turn the chapter, bro,

1306
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: moving to the chapter.

1307
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: It's hard to get free agent to come to Milwaukee,

1308
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: but they got to. They gotta find to get I

1309
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 3: don't know how his draft capital they have. They gotta

1310
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 3: find ways. They gotta trade them to everybody.

1311
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: They gotta get redoing this roster.

1312
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: You gotta trade Miles, You gotta trade Bobby Portis. You

1313
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: gotta trade whoever else that you got some money on it.

1314
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 5: I'm looking on how I can sell the team. I

1315
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 5: mean this is they're in a bad spot because the only.

1316
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: Way they start over is trading. Is honestly, Yeah, they

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 3: gotta trade everybody, but they gotta trade like that's the

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01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 3: only way they can start over. So there is no turning.

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01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 3: There's no turning this iteration of the bus take a wow, yes,

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01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: take a very this is a good time to selleration.

1321
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: They can't turn that around. Only turned the Bucks organization

1322
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 3: around as they trade everybody, and that's.

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Speaker 2: Including sad days in Milwaukee.

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01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 3: But they could turn around quicker if they trade like

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01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: with y'all, Like I said, they trade.

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01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: They just got to rip the band aid off. The

1327
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 2: Dame thing didn't end up working out.

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01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: I thought that stretching Dame's contract just seemed like such

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01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: a desperation.

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I forgot about that.

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01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: To keep twenty million dollars of dead money so bad

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01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: for the next four so bad every year. And I

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01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: love Miles Turning, Okay, I think he's a good player,

1334
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: but like this was, this move was never gonna take

1335
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: y'all into something special. And so yeah, the future is

1336
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: looking pretty bleak right now, I think. And it's just

1337
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: ripped the band aid off and put us out of

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: our misery.

1339
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Speaker 3: The mom Turner you got boot in Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

1341
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: It's time, all right, guys, for everybody to move. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: we're moving on.

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Speaker 2: Peace out.

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