1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I just want them to push man, like, do something 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: that you're proud of, that you love, that you will 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: look up in twenty thirty years and you can really 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: smile about it. You know what I mean. You didn't 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: necessarily have to help other people do their dream, you 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you are part of something 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: that was part of your dream. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Thank Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of butter Nomics. 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Brandon Butler, found in CEO of Butter 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: atl and today we got our first power couple in 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: the building. I don't know, I don't know how y'all 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: feel about to turn power. 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: You know what. 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: We got two amazing people that just so happened to 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: be married, and we're gonna talk about some fun stuff, 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: not about marriage, talk about how they killing the game 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: building businesses doing amazing things. First of all, ladies, first 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: missus Crystal Peterson, other Dynasty Real ESI group. How you doing. 19 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: I'm great, Thank you for having us. 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Brandon absolutely, and my god, Doug. He can't do a 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: grand hustle. Doug, what's going on? Baby? 22 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: Man? Working working, that's it? Man, Glad to be here, 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: bro for. 24 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: Real man, y'all stay busy man, Well, I appreciate y'all 25 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: making time to come in. So you know, this conversation 26 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: started actually at Bankhead Seafood. You know, I was at 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: the bank Head Seafood friends and family. Now that's how 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: I knew of a special man. I appreciate that friends 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: and family open for Doug for and seafood. You know 30 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: what you all are our partners at and help help 31 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: help build that, help rebuild that whole thing out. Just 32 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: tell me real quick, like why was it important for 33 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: y'all to help kind of bring bake Head Seafood back 34 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: and make sure that legacy stayed out here in Atlanta, 35 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: Because that's a staple and you know, a lot of 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: people might have forgotten about it, and y'all been doing 37 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: a lot of amazing work on that side of town. 38 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: But like, what about bank Head Seafood made y'all step 39 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: up and say, you know what, we gotta do something 40 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: with this space and make it something special. 41 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: It was one of those things that it was just 42 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: a beacon in the community that we grew up in. Me, 43 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: Tip Killer, Mike, you know, Crystal, you know what I mean. 44 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: So just riding past it every day, you know, of course, 45 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: just looking at it. You know, a couple of times 46 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: we went in and spoke to Miss Hard and it 47 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: was letting Hard when you're gonna spruce this thing up? Yeah, 48 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: and she would never you know, give you a real 49 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: definitive ounser blah blah blah. So just knowing when the 50 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: opportunity came for us to try to keep her legacy 51 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: going and try to just like I say, spruce it up, 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: make it a little better than what she tried to 53 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: do that. I mean, she definitely tried to take it 54 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: to where it could go and keep the legacy alive. 55 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: So our goal was just to try to make her 56 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: dream come true of with it what she would like 57 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: for it to be. 58 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: So, of course it's been in the community now for 59 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: at least fifty years. It's a real staple on the 60 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: bank corridor, and to Doug's point, she had it for 61 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: years and years and years, and when she did decide 62 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: to put it on the market, she was very intentional 63 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: about only selling to people that look like us. Yeah, 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 4: it was in the midst of gentrification. A lot of 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: the other businesses in the area were kind of selling 66 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: and she was not going to sell to anybody else. 67 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 4: So it's hard and I feel like she's become an 68 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: extended member. 69 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: Well, she just passed rest her soul of my family. 70 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: We shared so many memories over you know, the past 71 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: four years now, but just understanding what the brand meant 72 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: to her and making sure that she passed it on. 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: To individuals that looked like her. 74 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: She knew that we were going to hire minority contractors 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: to do the you know, the general contracting. And I 76 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: think that it was just a moment like that. So 77 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: we all went to Douglas High School at the time. 78 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: Keisha Lance Bottoms was in office when we actually acquired 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: the property, so she was a Douglas High graduate, and 80 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: it was kind of a moment, just full circle to 81 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: really bring the vision into fruition. 82 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: So it's going to always be something that's near and 83 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: dear to us. 84 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: And making sure we kept the recipe to high yes, yeah, yes, 85 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: that was her thing, like making sure that it tasted 86 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: it was the high quality. So it's just been it's 87 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: been funing, you know, making sure that the neighborhood can 88 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: stee you'll have this this thing that we've had for 89 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: fifty years. 90 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. And now look, man, 91 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: y'all did a little bit more than to spruce it 92 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: up too, Oa, because we know what it was like. 93 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: And again, if the food was there, it's it's been 94 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: a legacy spot. But like when you go in there now, 95 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: it's just been completely reimagined. The space is amazing. I mean, 96 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: we even got a rooftop area, and you know, I 97 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: think that's what I also just appreciate, you know, having 98 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: grown up even on the East Side myself, I always 99 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: tell people, like a lot of times in our communities, 100 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: we kind of have what we call food deserts, right, Yes, 101 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: Like I know my folks in Stone Mountain they got 102 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: to drive, you know, thirty minutes to go somewhere to 103 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: get a salad. Yes, you know what I'm saying, Like 104 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: there's nowhere around it. If you want liquor chicken lings 105 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: or Jamaican food, that's all right there. But like you 106 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: want to go somewhere to sit down and have actual meal, 107 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: that doesn't exist. So I really appreciate the intentionality y'all 108 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: put also in kind of making it into a full 109 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: restaurant experience for sure, Like why was that part important 110 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: to you all? 111 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: So I guess in the infamous words of our brother Killer, 112 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: he mentioned He's says something that kind of resonated with me. 113 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 4: He said that people in that area shouldn't have to 114 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: drive all the way to a Buckhead or a Cobb 115 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 4: County to have that dining experience. So we wanted to 116 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 4: do an elevated dining experience just from the fried fish. 117 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: We extended the menu, and we wanted to make sure 118 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: that it was pedestrian friendly where you know, the newcomers 119 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: in the community could still come and have a you know, 120 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: a vegan sandwich, a salad. You know, it was options 121 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: for everyone, and we wanted to make sure that it 122 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 4: was a sit down restaurant that we are, and we're 123 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: also the first rooftop on Bankhead. 124 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: Keep saying Bankhead hollow, Well yeah yeah. 125 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: And I mean I so it may have been the 126 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: friends and family and night we were able to watch 127 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 4: the sunrise. 128 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 129 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: When I say that that experience alone, that's when you 130 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: know that you really like hit the mark and bringing 131 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: her dream into fruition and you can sit up there 132 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: watch the sunrise, well sunset, yeah, the sunset, and you know, 133 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: have a glass of wine and you know, have a 134 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 4: true dining experience. And it's on bankt yeah, on the 135 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 4: way side, and we were you know, able to deliver 136 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: that and that's that's that's huge and that's important. 137 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: And then tell me about too, just like the experience 138 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: of kind of you know, now owning the restaurant. It's 139 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: up and running. You know, how's the community really you 140 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: know accepted and embraced it. 141 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: They've been pretty receptive. It took. 142 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: It was really challenging throughout the development process simply because 143 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 4: you know, we have a lot of newcomers. It's the 144 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 4: area this in a mister gentrification, So a lot of 145 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: people didn't understand the brand, didn't necessarily want the brand, 146 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 4: and what they thought, you know, would bring into the area, 147 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: which is you know, pretty inherent in most grif yeah, 148 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: gentrified areas. A lot of the legacy residents were really 149 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 4: excited about it, of course, but I think that we 150 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: have delivered to both at this point and we have 151 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: a huge pouring out pouring of support, so hopefully it 152 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: will continue. 153 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Every time we are there. Is like it's just you 154 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: see community, Yeah, May's High School, does Washington High School? 155 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: Like, it's just politicians, entertainers, community active as stakeholders. 156 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: It's just a beautiful thing. It really is it's dope. 157 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean you talk about gentrification. I know, 158 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: you know, because we were talking even while we were 159 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: there about all the stuff y'all did with the whole 160 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: by back to Block initiative and just all the work 161 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: y'all done that area in general, Like why is it 162 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: so important that we kind of you know again, like 163 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: there's a I guess you kind of say there's like 164 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: a good and a bad side of gentrification. Like obviously 165 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: we want stuff to be a little bit nicer in 166 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: our communities as they is, but we don't want that 167 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: to push people out right, right, So it's really important, 168 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: like you know, people like you Crystal with the Dynasty 169 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: Realistic Group is like really getting there and making these 170 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: things happen. But you know, what are some other things 171 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: you all are doing in that area to make sure 172 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: that we can have you know, nice areas where people 173 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: like us are represented. But it also is not price 174 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: and just pushing us out where other developers and stuff 175 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: are coming in. 176 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: So we, like I said, we've started back in twenty 177 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: seventeen twenty eighteen kind of strategically and quietly acquiring parcels 178 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: alongside that. Donally Hollowell Corridor. The first project that we 179 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: call it our flagship project was the INTRODA West Side. 180 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: We took the old kmarts and converted it into one 181 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: hundred and forty three affordable, one hundred percent affordable, serving 182 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: from fifty to eight percent AMI area meeting income for residents. 183 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: And it's about nine thousand square feet on the bottom 184 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: which we're hoping to transition into a grocery store. 185 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: So we were able to do that. 186 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: We started that project I think in twenty broke around 187 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: on like twenty eighteen or nineteen. It is now one 188 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: hundred percent completely occupied. We have a waiting list, and 189 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 4: that was the first project that we did, and then 190 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: we took it from there and we touched on the 191 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 4: housing component with that, and then we touched on the 192 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: economic development component with bank and seafood. 193 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: It's about lockdown from Croya West Side. 194 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: So now we were able to not only bring economic 195 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: development into an area that was a food desert, that 196 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: it was a dilap lated property. We were able to 197 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: bring a historic landmark back into the community provide. We 198 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: have at least seventy employees that we've you know, and 199 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: that we've been able to give job opportunities to some 200 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: of them are from the local shelter. We partner with 201 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: paw Kids, it's right behind us, which is the Community 202 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: Development Corporation, nonprofit community development corporation. So we partner with 203 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: a lot of other entities in the city to make 204 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: sure that we're you know, affording that opportunity to them 205 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: as well. And then we're working on I don''t give 206 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 4: out too many details, but we're going we're working on 207 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: it one hundred percent for profit development market rate, kind 208 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: of in the hospitality industry, closer to the Trap Music Museum. Okay, Yeah, 209 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 4: so we're kind of touching on every different component, you know. 210 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: Buy back the block was about us intentionally purchasing property 211 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: alongside that for a door holding it. I just I 212 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 4: think that we're in an era where we can't afford 213 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 4: to just purchase properties and flip it. Like, we have 214 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 4: to be involved in the development process. We have to 215 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 4: be selective about who we choose to align ourselves with, 216 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: you know, for for other developers, because we have to 217 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: co develop on some of these projects simply because it's 218 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: out of our capacity. So we have to be intentional 219 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 4: about who we're you know, co developing with. Who we're 220 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 4: choosing to partner with, and I think that by that approach, 221 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: we're able to make sure that lower income families are 222 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 4: still able to be welcomed in. And then we can 223 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: also you know, partner with larger developers and do for 224 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 4: you know, one hundred percent market rate for development projects 225 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: as well. 226 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: So I. 227 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: Love how you talk about you can't just you know, 228 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: just flip and move on. I think a lot of 229 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: times that's what people think real estate is about. Right, Yeah, 230 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: Well that again, there's benefits of that in certain areas, 231 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: you know, there's also again it creates downsides, and so 232 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: for you being in real estate and kind of you know, 233 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: having that foresight, I think it's really interesting. But even 234 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: more about that, it's like when you look at those 235 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 2: properties when y'all probably started acquiring them, which was you know, 236 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: I think we talked about a little bit before the pandemic. 237 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: Before that area for their pandemic, where the area. 238 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: Started like growing, Like what gave you the foresight to 239 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: kind of know like this is an area that not 240 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: only I want to invest them, but if I invest 241 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: in this area, like it'll it'll it'll come back to us, 242 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: you know, in tenfold. 243 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: So a lot of. 244 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: It is it's I mean, you know, knowing what's coming 245 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: to the area. It is all of those projects are 246 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: within a tad, all of those projects within an opportunity 247 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: zone and kind of knowing where the. 248 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: Dollars are flowing to, if that makes sense. 249 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: And relationships, I think that each project that we've had, 250 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: it's that we have to hold ourselves to a certain 251 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: level of excellence. We have to maintain certain relationships, and 252 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: we have to stand and know about what's going on. 253 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: We always have to be you know, I've stayed MPU 254 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: meetings and you know, to know what what the need 255 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: was for the community, what the community wanted to see, 256 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 4: and merge it with what the city you know, was 257 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: coming down the pipeline. And I think it's a perfect 258 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: marriage between those and then of course, you know, complimenting, 259 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: you know, I think it was a perfect marriage for 260 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: at that point in time that that tip was on 261 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: the Mayor's maryoruseland Bottoms transition team and one of the 262 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: mentors were God Arrest his soul Noel Khalil, and I 263 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: met Khalil Noel Khalil when I was in let's say 264 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: middle school. My mother was the vice president of development 265 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: for the Historic District Development Corporation, and I always consider 266 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: them to be like the pioneers of affordable housing in Atlanta. 267 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: They're actually I think they're one of, if not the 268 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 4: oldest community development corporation in the city of Atlanta. I 269 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: think they're one of them. But he was on the 270 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: transition team as well, so he partnered and merged with 271 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: kind of mentored Tip and Mike on the transition team. 272 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: So that was really special to allow that full circle. 273 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an awesome time just listening to his 274 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: experiences and you know, things that he faced and things 275 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: he told us we would face, you know what I mean. 276 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: So that was definitely a special person to meet. For 277 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the short period of time that we did meet him, 278 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: we got a lot from them, for sure. 279 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: And those relationships are so important because there's so much 280 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: like knowledge that doesn't always get transfer down from generation 281 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 2: to generation, especially in our community, right, Like you need 282 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: people that have kind of been there before and done 283 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: those things that you know what to kind of look 284 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: out for. But Doug, go want to ask you too, man, 285 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: having like really grown up in that area and seeing 286 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: how it's transitioned over the years, Like how do you 287 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: feel now that you've had a hand in making it 288 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: and up and kind of move forward. 289 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: Man, I feel like we waited too late now I 290 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: was just playing. But it's crazy because when Tip first 291 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: got signed, we were in that same corridor. When TILP 292 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: got signed in twenty nineteen, the first place that Ghetto 293 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: Vision KP and then took us to record was Patchwork, Yeah, 294 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: which is right down the north side behind the McDonald's, 295 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So to now look right 296 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: behind that and you have interlock, it's like, wow, that's crazy, 297 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean, we were in that same 298 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: studio two three o'clock in the morning and let's go 299 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: get something to eat, walk into the Crystals, but crystal back, 300 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's just 301 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: a full circle moment, you know what I mean. That's uh. 302 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: We called it our neighborhood, from you know, down to 303 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: the Dome all the way up to seventy five on 304 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: north Side. We go back and forth different businesses. Studio 305 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: won't say exactly what the studio is, but you know, 306 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: we have a studio up and down the north side. 307 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: The museum of course, just a bunch of other little 308 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: properties and stops that we make. But yeah, it's uh, 309 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: it's amazing, bro, it's amazing, like to see all the 310 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: abandoned warehouses. And I tell my team all the time 311 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: that a lot of them didn't see that like they've 312 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: seen it, you know, the last five six years. It's like, man, 313 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: y'all didn't even want to drive up and down here, 314 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: like this wasn't that, you know what I'm saying. So 315 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: it's been amazing to see the growth of it, for sure. 316 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: Man, Look, I remember what Mary the Street used to 317 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: look like that, you know, going to the warehouse in downtown. 318 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: A lot of those areas you know where people are 319 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: walking out and hanging out right now in the Upper 320 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: West all this stuff now, you know what I mean 321 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: now and everything and everything's kind of moved around. So 322 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: like even with that, man, how did y'all come up 323 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: with the idea for the Trap Music Museum? And again 324 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: it's the Trap Music Museum, y'all is not the Trap Museum. 325 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: Just come on and come see learn what's going on. 326 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: It's crazy because at that time Till was working on 327 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: his tenth album and the album Dime Trap. We needed 328 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: like a marketing idea, so just so happened at him Crystal, 329 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: like they had acquired all these buildings, and we had 330 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: an idea of doing a museum dedicated to it was 331 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: more so dedicated to Atlanta and the culture of Atlanta. 332 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: But we were just like, you know, maybe if we 333 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: just told this small side of the museum space the 334 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: trap music part, which you know, till it was one 335 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: of the pioneering fathers of the genre itself, maybe then 336 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: we can grow it into the bigger you know. Look, so, 337 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, we just took it. It was supposed to 338 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: be a pop up. We needed a building, and just 339 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: so happened that, you know, we were like, hey, this 340 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: might fit, you know, So we took it, came up 341 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: with different ideas, created a committee, if you will, different 342 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: creatives we set up, argued who would be in it, 343 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: who should be in it, who shouldn't be in it? 344 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: What is trap? What is this? What is that? And 345 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: then we just kind of go. We just went, you 346 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It took us probably about six 347 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: months from the actual like start of the creative and 348 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: building out the actual space to open the night. And 349 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about we literally was at the finish line, like, 350 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: oh man, we got open, we got over, let's go, 351 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: let's go. So it was dope. It was dope. It 352 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: was one of the most exciting things I've ever done 353 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: in my life, for real, like that whole creative time 354 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: and and just how it all worked out, you know 355 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it started to be a pop up. 356 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: It was. It was dope. Everybody came out. So by 357 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: the end of it, we were like trying to move on. 358 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: So we shut it down and and we kept getting 359 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: phone calls and emails and phone huh. I'm like, hey, bro, 360 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: we might need to open it back up. I'm talking 361 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: about people were mad. So we were like, all right, cool, 362 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: So we took it, put a business structure to it, 363 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: and how you go. Seven years later? 364 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: Seven years later, Yeah, Christ, what do you remember about 365 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: that time when kind of the track was coming. 366 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: To light so late night? 367 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a really exciting time. 368 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's it's funny to hear their vision 369 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: for something and then to see it like really brought 370 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 4: into fruition. Because I'm not, like, on the I don't 371 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 4: consider myself to be a creative. So sometimes you know, 372 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 4: Doug has all these ideas and I'm like Okay. So 373 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 4: then to see it, I was like, wow, this is 374 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 4: like this is on some like next level. It was 375 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: before people were really doing the the escape rooms and 376 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: before they were really doing the museums where you had 377 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: the different experiences. They were interactive and something that really 378 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: paid homage to the trap culture. 379 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: And then seeing the way. 380 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 4: That and Doug and I were talking about that, like 381 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: to figure out a way to merge the two, like 382 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 4: from the trap culture and to the positives that it's 383 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 4: you know, the positivity that it's also created for our community. 384 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: So I mean, it's it's been a pretty amazing We 385 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: were a very. 386 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: Hell bent on telling our own story, and we wanted 387 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: to make sure that it wasn't told through you know, 388 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: just regular you know, we wanted to do something different. 389 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I've always noticed that 390 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: our culture, our people, we don't really dive into the art, 391 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: the visual art that exists out here. And that's a 392 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: great visual artist, you know what I mean. So that 393 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: was one of the components that we wanted to make 394 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: sure that we brought into it. Of course, set design, 395 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: all those types of things. So it was just something 396 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: that it was like a pot of gumbo that just 397 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: came out beautiful, to be honest, and we. 398 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: Were talking about that offline too, is like, why do 399 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: you think it's important for us to tell our own stories, 400 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: especially down here in Atlanta, to kind of control that narrative. 401 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: This is what comes Like as much as we play 402 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: and we joke about it, this really is like I've 403 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: been I've been all around the world, you know what 404 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean, top of Africa, bottom of Africa, you're Australia, Japan, 405 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: I've been around the world. Ain't no place like Alunta. Yeah, nah, 406 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: it ain't even close. And just the business structures that 407 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: we've built, the artists that have come up out of 408 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: the ground of Atlanta, like the out cast is and 409 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: TI's and Gezy's and it's just it's so much, you 410 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: know what I mean that it can be overwhelming. So 411 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: to me, it's kind of like it's time to start 412 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: like breaking down the this is that, this is this, 413 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: this is like and bringing it together, like the black 414 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: owned business sites and really supporting each other. Like that's 415 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: been my goal for for a minute. So like that's 416 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: kind of been the thing that you know, I don't 417 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: know if you want to jump in. 418 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: And well, yeah, I think they're just merging. 419 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of talent, and there's a 420 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 4: lot of money in Atlanta, right especially from you know, entertainers, athletes, 421 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 4: And there's a development in New York and they took 422 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 4: a museum on the bottom and they put apartments on 423 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: top of it. But if we could get to a 424 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 4: point of where you know, we could come together, bring 425 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: our resources together, and be able to support our own projects, 426 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: like you know, just long term, I think that Atlanta, 427 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: if it's going to happen anywhere, I think that Atlanta 428 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: would be the place to make that happen. 429 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that we have all the right resources here. 430 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: You know, there's not the fact that we have you know, 431 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: mayor city council members that went to the same high 432 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: school as us that we see, you know, at our kids' 433 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 4: basketball games, and there's so much opportunity. 434 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: And again that goes back to relationships. 435 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 4: You know, we have a lot of great creativity, talent, 436 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 4: educated individuals. 437 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: We have you know, Spellman, Warhouse. 438 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 4: You know, I think that we we have to figure 439 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 4: out how to depend on each other and you know, 440 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: figure out a way to create that black excellence. 441 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: We've done a good job of creating it. Now it's 442 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: time to figure out how to sustain it, you know 443 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: what I mean. I think that's the thing. It's kind 444 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: of like when we do create something, we just wait 445 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: a flag and it's like there's no connection to the 446 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: rest of everything else that goes around. And I think 447 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: that's the time that we in now, you know what 448 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean. Me and Till was having a conversation a 449 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: couple let's call it a couple years ago, but I 450 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: was like, man, it just would be dope for all 451 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: the top rappers in Alanda to come and create a label, 452 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we the one producing 453 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: all of the artists. Why not it all come out 454 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: the same ground. And he, you know, we went back 455 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: and for us and he was like, man egos and 456 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, and I get it, But the 457 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: best thing for us is to figure it out, you 458 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's just you know, in 459 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: music is one part of it, but restaurants and podcasting 460 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: and like everything, like we are the culture, you know 461 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: what I mean, That's that's what we bring to the 462 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: table in the world, you know what I mean. So 463 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: we got to figure out how to take that and 464 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: make it sustained to where our legacy can survive because 465 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot of folk trying to take that away 466 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: from us. 467 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: The space collaborations there I can. You know, sometimes I 468 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: feel like an outsider growing up because I didn't grow 469 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: up in the music business, you know. I grew up. 470 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: I was look, I was a software engineer. Man I 471 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: grew up said, we talked about Stone Mountain, you know. 472 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: And and so for me, it's always been interesting because 473 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: a lot of the same people that I know now 474 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: and have relationships where were people that I only saw 475 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: on TV or only saw on stage right, And like, 476 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: I've been blessed nothing not only know these people, but 477 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: they know me, you know, Like it's it's always funny 478 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: to me when Killer Might calls me. It's always funny 479 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: when it's Big Boy on the phone, right, and I'm like, wow, 480 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: Like I look at these things, and I'm really appreciative 481 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: of that. But it also means that obviously I'm hopefully 482 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: I'm doing something right to have these relationships. And I 483 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: think that's that's what that's you're saying, right, It's like 484 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: we have to start embracing each other, because again, it's 485 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: it's one thing to build a banking and seafood. But 486 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: at the same time, we got to support these businesses. Yeah, look, 487 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: quit giving these business in our communities a hard time. 488 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: You know. 489 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: Like I used to own a restaurant and I had 490 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: more people coming in there trying to scam me and 491 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: hustle me and try to get over on me. And 492 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: it's like, why we got to do that in our 493 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: own communities. We're dumping our time and money and investment 494 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: in these areas. 495 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: And it's already hard enough. It's already it's already hard 496 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: enough just sustaining the economics of of just where we 497 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: are in the world. It's like to have a business 498 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: and to keep it open, keep the lights on, and 499 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: it's actually nice, Like it's hard. So it's like we 500 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: need the people to come and say, hey, man, I 501 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: understand the table wobbly, Hey can you have fix this? 502 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, b Like that's more of a help 503 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: than going online and they had a wobbly table. It's like, 504 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: come on, bro, like what we're doing, you know what 505 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean? And we don't do other people like that, right, 506 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: we don't do that now now, So I mean, we 507 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: we just gotta we gotta do better. Man, we gotta 508 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: do bettle. That's just the truth. 509 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 2: That's real crystal from your standpoint, especially, you know, real 510 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: estate is one of the best ways to build well 511 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 2: and for people to get out of here. Like, what 512 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: were some of the things that got you started in 513 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: that space and what advice would you give the people 514 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: that want to start in it so they don't think 515 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: it's too late. 516 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 4: So I actually started out in two thousand and four. 517 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: I think I come my real estate license and I. 518 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: Actually worked for a for profit developer. He was like 519 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: one of the largest black developers. They were building by 520 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 4: Ansley Mall, Like there weren't a lot of us over there, 521 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 4: and he was building million dollar properties over there at 522 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 4: the time, and there wasn't a lot of competition. Now, 523 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 4: I think that I've kind of transitioned over to the 524 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 4: developments end of it, just because I feel like I'm 525 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: on the one hand with real estate, I kind of 526 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: I feel like I surpassed you know, that industry and 527 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 4: the Atlanta market with real estate is so oversaturated when 528 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: there's so many agents in Atlanta, some really great ones too. 529 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: But I felt like for me to leave the impact 530 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 4: that I left, I really wanted to transition into something else, 531 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 4: and development was where I saw I could make the 532 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: biggest impact in terms of you know, community and I 533 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: like putting deals together. I think you have to find 534 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: your niche as to what it is that you like 535 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: about real estate. We have some real estate agents that 536 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 4: work with us that are, you know, their niches interior decorating, 537 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: so they do staging. We have some that are more 538 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 4: focused on commercial. I think that you have to find 539 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: out what your passion is in that real estate industry, 540 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 4: because it can't just be driven by money all the time, 541 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 4: right because you're you know, your highest highs are never 542 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: as low as your low as lows. Like it's just 543 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 4: the real estate industry in and of itself, it is 544 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 4: just it. It can be very trying at times. So 545 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: I think that you have to find your passion and 546 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 4: what it is that you really fulfills you. 547 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: In real estate and then kind of follow that through. 548 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Doug, what about you, man? How does somebody 549 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: get started? Man? 550 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: In the music industry? Yeah, just get got It is 551 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: rough right now, man, it's rough. I mean the music 552 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: industry is reshaping itself. Yeah, So to be honest right now, 553 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: I would just stand back and just learn and see 554 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: what it is. It's the transition is creating on the 555 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: artist side, like you can almost not almost, you pretty 556 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: much can't manage and create your own brand and sell 557 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: your own music. Now it depends on how big you 558 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: want to make it, but I mean you can definitely 559 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: you can pay the bills just by yourself out here, 560 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I think the right person, 561 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: the right brand, once you start going in the right direction, 562 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: you got to build the right team. And then once 563 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: you build the right team, find out what your sound is, 564 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: your look is. Then once you're making that great music, 565 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: the stuff don't come to you. You know, the people, 566 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: the opportunities. That's really it for real, man, you gotta 567 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: learn just like she said, just kind of learn the 568 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: crowd or what it is you're trying to get into 569 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: in what space you want to be in with Lane 570 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: and just stay at it, wake up every day and 571 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: get to it. That's really it. 572 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: As individuals and as a unit. Like what's the long 573 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: term success like for you all, Like you ain't gonna 574 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 2: put everything out there because again, I know, you know, 575 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: maybe it's like you know what what easy going to 576 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: Dubai or something like that. What does long term success 577 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: look like, and more importantly, like what kind of legacy 578 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: do you want to leave on the culture of Atlanta. 579 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 4: So I think that for me, well for us, I 580 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: think that it's it's in terms of legacy is really 581 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 4: important to me. 582 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: Legacy and representation are really important to me. 583 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: And the fact that we are now able to you know, 584 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 4: my children, my children and children, my grandchildren will be 585 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: able to. 586 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: Drive past and try to west Side. 587 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 4: We'll be able to drive past Fankan Seafood, We'll be 588 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: able to drive past the Trap Music Museum and say 589 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 4: that their mother and father built those. 590 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: That that's our mark that we've left on the city 591 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: of Atlanta. 592 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: Hopefully we will continue to deliver more sustainable projects. You know, 593 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: we have a lot of them in the pipeline right now. 594 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: But that's that's the legacy that I want to continue 595 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 4: to leave in representation as well, if they you know, 596 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: I would love you know, the kids at Douglas High School, 597 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: they were in the process of closing down a few 598 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 4: years ago, but you know, making sure that they see, 599 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: you know, individuals that look like them that came back 600 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: and and reinvested in the communities, that invested in them. 601 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 4: I think that's the long term goal for us, and 602 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 4: hopefully that could you give an impression on the next generation. 603 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 4: Not only could you be in the music industry, you 604 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: can be in development. You can merge your two worlds together. 605 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: So letting them see that it is possible. Is the 606 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: legacy that you want to lead the creative. 607 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: Partnerships, that it's creative out of it. I just think 608 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: that me personally, I love telling stories, you know what 609 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean. And I love telling our stories more than 610 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like the ground things that 611 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: we've had to do to sustain and thrive. So that's where, 612 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: like she says, my legacy lives. Like I've been telling 613 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: stories through music now, the museum now, through restaurants and 614 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: all type of other things. So I will always continue 615 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: to do those things, but just like she said, making 616 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: sure that our children understand those stories and who they 617 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: are and are out of it and they can take 618 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: it and try to push it just as higher or 619 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: higher than we have, you know what I mean. So 620 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: that's that's That's he. 621 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: One thing I always wonder too about because I struggle 622 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: with this myself sometimes, Like when you build things like that, 623 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: do you all how do you all feel about that 624 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: being something that your kids get involved in one day? 625 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: Do you want it to have the option for them 626 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: to get involved? Are you all kind of like pushing them? 627 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: Because I think again sometimes I mean, obviously we want 628 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: things to stay in the family, and we want things 629 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: that we want people to understand like generational right, But 630 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: like sometimes too, you know, the kids want to do 631 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: something different, and like that's like the double edged sword 632 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: of parents that create opportunities. It's like they get exposure 633 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: to other things. They say, you know what, Mom and dad, 634 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: I love this thing you're doing right now, but you know, 635 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: I want to go do something else. So like how 636 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: do y'all kind of feel about that? And you know, 637 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: how do you balance that? 638 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 4: And the generations are like ever revolving. I think that 639 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: this new generation, like especially with our kids, like there's 640 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 4: introduction of AI and if you should take my suits, 641 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: so is we have those conversations with them. I would 642 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 4: love for my children to go into you know, development. 643 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 4: I see my son as being an architect. 644 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: And I'm always asking my daughter come on. 645 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 4: With But I think that they have a love for 646 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: for the music industry and they have a love for 647 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 4: the real estate development, and they see their mom and 648 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 4: their dad, they see what we've contributed. I would love 649 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: for them to go into that space, but I think 650 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: that they'll soar and excel in whatever say, in whatever 651 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 4: are they choose. 652 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: Our daughter has definitely said that she wants to be 653 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: in the music business, but in just again seeing what's 654 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: going on in the world of music and just knowing 655 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: her is like I see it for her. But I 656 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: also want her to understand that it's a hustle, you 657 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. This ain't this ain't just wake 658 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: up and you go here and then you're gonna pick 659 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: up a check Friday. Don't. Really, It's not gonna work 660 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: like it, you know what I mean. So you're gonna 661 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: have to really hustle, you know what I mean. And 662 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: that's that's the grind that I think a lot of 663 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: kids now that they missing, they missing And I don't 664 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: know if it's the phones or the because to me, 665 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: the phones make me smarter, you know what I'm saying. 666 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from different things. So it's just 667 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: I think, just like she said, they'll pick up on 668 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: where they supposed to be. I just want them to 669 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: to push man, just push like, do something that you're 670 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: proud of, that you love, that you will look up 671 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: in twenty thirty years and you can really smile about it. 672 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You didn't necessarily have to 673 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: help other people do their dream, you know what I'm saying, 674 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: Like you are part of something that was a part 675 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: of your dream. 676 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean a lot of people know this. 677 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: But like my dad was in the music industry, and 678 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: you know, he did pretty well for himself. He was 679 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: a producer. But I'll never forget one day he came 680 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: home with a computer and he said, focus on this. 681 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: He was like, don't do what I did. 682 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: That's right, take it a part. 683 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: He was put back together. I never forget he said, 684 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: this is going to be the future. And so for me, 685 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: like even though I used to go with him to 686 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: LA and be in the studio and like again I 687 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: saw some very amazing stuff that he was doing, he 688 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: really kind of pushed me out of his path. I said, 689 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: you know, don't do what I do. Do this, And 690 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm I appreciate it for it because that's opened up 691 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: a ton of opportunities for me. Sometimes I wonder it's 692 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: like but could I But I think again, like parents, 693 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: the biggest thing we want to do is give our 694 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: kids options, sure, right, and so we work hard to say, 695 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: you know what, if anything, you have a choice, you 696 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean, you have a choice. We want 697 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: you to go to school, but we also understand school 698 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: is for everybody, but we want you to do something. 699 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: We want you to be, you know, a successful contributing 700 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: member of society in some kind of way, shape or form, right, 701 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: And so that's the you know, I never forget this, 702 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: like I think what Steve Harvey said this quote where 703 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: it was like it's like it's hard to keep your 704 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: kids from being you know, a little bit spoiled when 705 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: you kind of have it going on, right, because like 706 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: they have all these things, and so you have to 707 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: find ways to you know, kind of keep that fire 708 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: inside of them because you work for the things for 709 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: them to have. But at the same time, if you're 710 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: not careful, you know, it can make them, you know, 711 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: be a little lazy, right, So you have to kind 712 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: of find ways keep them engaged and keep you know, 713 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: keep a fire lit under. They can go intern, yes, yes, yes, 714 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: they can they can go do some demolition of. 715 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: The I intern many of years, many of years you 716 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so definitely I totally get it. 717 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: Well, look, this has been an amazing conversation before we 718 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: get out of here, like how can people who want to, 719 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: you know, support you all get involved? Like what's the 720 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: best way for them to get in contact with you 721 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: all of your teams to kind of again, whether they 722 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: want to support the Trap Museum or Bankhead Seafood so 723 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: some of these other projects, Like where do people go 724 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: to learn more about you all if they want to 725 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: support and get involved. 726 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: Well, we are on social media Instagram, Dynasty Reality Group 727 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: at Dynasty Reality Group. Our website is the Dynastyrealitygroup dot com. 728 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 4: And you can support any of our brands at Trap 729 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: Music Museum or Bankhead Seafood. Yes, do not forget about 730 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 4: my brother the Count of Chicken for me, Doug. 731 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: Brand Hustle, you can always hit me up there, you know, 732 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: come seals. Like you said, we had all these locations anywhere. Yeah. Man, 733 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: we always looking to have dope conversations with with dope 734 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: people and like minds, you know what I mean, trying 735 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: to grow, trying. 736 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: To grow always for sure, dope man. Well, this has 737 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: been an amazing conversation. Congratulations for all the amazing stuff 738 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: y'all have done and continue to do. We appreciate y'all. Yes, yeah, 739 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all. 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