WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: The Detectives and The Stylist 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.600 Hey folks, it's Thursday, May twenty ninth. Welcome to this 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.600 episode of Amy and TJ. The Ditty trial continues as 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.520 we speak, and a reminder, this is now the third 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:19.000 full week of testimony and robes as we record this 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.319 now testimony, it's going to be another full day. But 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.599 it's hard to get through all the testimony if you're 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.040 not paying close attention and have time to go through 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.360 all of these articles online. So we are providing a 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:33.200 service here. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.159 That's right. So yes, we are following up on all 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.559 the testimony what happened with a very full day in 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:44.000 court yesterday which was Wednesday, And so you don't have 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.400 to click and try to read and piece it all together. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.680 It's all here for you, along with our take on 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.200 what is happening inside that courtroom just a few blocks 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.040 away from where we are sitting right now. But yes 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.960 yesterday was another big day of testimony where we heard 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.040 from two law enforcement officials, one with the Fire Department 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:09.760 talking about some of the issues with Ditty and Kid Cutty. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.319 And then the big, big, big witness on the stand 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:20.199 was Cassie Ventura Findes personal stylist and now her friend 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.480 Deontay Nash and he had a lot to say about 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:31.119 what he witnessed and how he feels about both Cassie 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:32.920 and Sean Ditty Combs. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.160 Yeah, the majority of the day the stand was occupied 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.000 by Deontay Nash. We're going to get into everything he 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.240 had to say, which was absolutely a lot. He saw 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.160 a lot and was able to detail a lot of 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.840 the alleged violence that she endured at the hands of Ditty. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.240 But the Chris Ignacio was the laped officer, and he 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.760 was important because he was able to corroborate a lot 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.200 of what we had already heard. He was the one 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.360 who showed up or one of the officers who showed 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.800 up after Diddy allegedly broke into Kid Cutty's house Ropes. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.160 He said he got there, he went inside. He didn't 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.200 see Diddy, he didn't see a security guard, but he 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.040 saw He testified to the aftermath that we have already 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:13.720 heard about how Cutty's place was trashed, certainly allegedly and 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.880 by everything they're piecing together, it was Ditty and his 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.360 security guard had gone into the house. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:22.400 That's right. He says he personally saw a black escalat. Sorry, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.959 I can't talk, so I a black escalade take off 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.080 once he pulled up and then come back around. He 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:33.959 ran the plates and yep, that black escalade was registered 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.240 to bad Boy, which is of course Sean Diddy comes company. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.440 And so that that was a big, you know, piece 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.640 of evidence that clearly puts at least a representative of Ditty, 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.240 if not Diddy himself there at the time around when 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.400 Kid Cutty said his home was vandalized. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.560 Again, this was the exact time. The whole incident we're 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.799 talking about here is the knight that Ditty allegedly got mad, 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.400 found out Cuddy and Cassie were dating, went to Cutt's 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.880 house that night. Now, someone who was with him, Capricorn Clark, 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.480 is another former assistant who testified as well with some 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.200 pretty powerful stuff. She was telling that, yes, they were 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.440 in a black escalade. They went to the house. She 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.280 talked about what happened. She said, yes, cut he pulled up, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.239 he took off, and we chased him in the black 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.000 escalade for a little while and then came back to 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.880 the house. So the escalade has played a lot into 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.680 this story. And to hear now an officer say, he 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.600 laid eyes on that escalade in question. He saw it 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.560 that night and Apparently whoever was in that escalade saw 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.560 officers coming that night and took off. YEP is the 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.840 story now that's being put together. And you can't use 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.480 a lot of black escalades out there, especially in LA. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.080 But he ran the plates exactly, So that's really not 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.840 up for dispute. If you've got an officer of the 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.920 law running the plates of this black escalade, that pretty 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.280 much puts or at least connects all the dots for 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:58.120 jurors that, if not Didty, someone who represented Ditty was 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.960 there while all of this was being. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.920 With the thought of the matter of yes, Capricorn Clogg 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.400 told the story. But to think that an officer, I mean, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.760 chances are given the timing, and given the timing, there's 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.160 a decent chance that did he was still in that vehicle. Yes, 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.560 To think that there was a cop that passed, To 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.080 think he was right there and all this stuff, this 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.599 is ten years ago. I think this incident was to 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.120 think that an officer was right there, like there were 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.839 so many missed opportunities. I guess somebody faulting the officers. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.880 I'm just saying. Along the way, and as we've been 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.880 following this trial, somebody saw a beating take place, didn't 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.160 do anything. Somebody saw this, didn't do anything. Somebody was 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.120 scared to do this. And just to think that close, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:39.160 just passing ditty at the scene, it's this. You think 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.280 you've heard enough or a lot, or at all, and 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:43.839 it just keeps coming to this true. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.960 So much of it seems like a movie script. So 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.000 much of it, even those near misses or those missed 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.000 opportunities that allowed this to continue for years and years 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.240 and years, all feels like the movie, like a movie script, 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.839 like almost almost almost. And yet not until the very end, 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.159 not until Cassie filed her lawsuit, did any of this 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:04.920 come to light. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.560 On the movie thing. Isn't this the point of the 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.000 movie where you're screaming at the screen. He's in the. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.440 Car, Yes, so you just oh my gosh, so close, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.960 so close. Yeah, But we're hearing it all play out 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.640 in court, and it really is as riveting as a 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.440 movie script and as devastating, and it's it is a 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.159 horror movie, truly, I mean, it really is. It feels 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:27.360 like a horror movie, and it is. It was life 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.440 for so many people who were in this inner circle 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.760 of Sean Diddy Combs. According to their testimony. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.839 And the officer said, nobody ever said anything to him 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.480 about Diddy. Nobody said anything about theft. It was only 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.120 to investigate trespassing and that was the end of it, 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.000 and they went about their day. Now, the other person 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.880 who was up on the stand was a fire investigator 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.880 and arson investigator who checked out the fire in Kid 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.720 Cutty's car, the porst that had the molotov cocktail in it. Now, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.360 this was when things got a little interesting, because, yes, 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.839 the defense at one point during this man's testimony moved 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:03.719 for mistrial. They wanted to end this thing yesterday because 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.080 of this guy's testimony. We were talking about Lanceamenez, he's 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.920 an LA fire investigator in Robes. He got up and 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.040 he mentioned something and I think he was just answering 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.160 the question having to do what There were fingerprints that 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.719 were found at kid Cutty's car. They piecing together, of 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.960 course through testimony, that they believe that Diddy had something 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.800 to do with it. That's never been proven. Fine, but 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.320 the fire investigator said, we found fingerprints, but those were 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:33.120 later destroyed. That is what prompted defense attorneys to speak up. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.920 Yes, they said it implied that Ditty had so much 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.480 reach and so much power that he was able to 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:44.240 somehow have those fingerprints destroyed. But there were partial fingerprints, 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.560 and of course we should mention. The judge said, no, 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.520 that did nothing. They did this outside of the juror's attention. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.640 They had a sidebar, and the judge said, no, this 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.840 is not in any way incriminating your client, and the 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.160 jury has not been tainted, and we're going to proceed. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.200 The estimony continued, and I thought it was really interesting 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:08.240 when Detective Jimenez talked about that the fingerprints, the partial fingerprints, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.200 I think they were able to say it was for 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.680 a woman, for a female. We know that Caricorn, Capricorn 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.000 Clark was there. So then of course Diddy's defense team 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.040 went really full tilt on that one and tried to 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.560 lean in on the fact that the fingerprints were possibly 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:24.680 female not male. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.200 Look, they had no this is another crime that they 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.920 had no suspect. They had no witness to come forward 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.320 and say who they thought the suspect was. Because the 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.080 two people mainly involved in this, Cassie Ventura, kid Cutty 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.400 and Capricorn Clark, none of them made a police report 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.560 accusing him of anything of the sort. His name never 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.920 came up, and in fact, Cassie and Capricorn, this fire 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.880 investigator said he called repeatedly trying to get in touch 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.040 with him in Robes. This again nobody want They would 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.280 not call him back, they would not take his call. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.200 And this goes to fear that they say so many 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:00.880 people felt about that. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.040 Part of his testimony blew me away that here is 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.920 a detective with the law trying to figure out why 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.400 Kid Cutty's car blew up with a he said, a 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:16.640 poorly constructed Molotov cocktail. And we know now that we 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:23.200 heard Cassie Ventura testify that Sean Ditty Combs threatened to 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.880 blow up Kid Cutty's car, and then, sure enough, a 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.160 short time later, Kid Cutty's car blows up. So we 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.840 only hear this after the fact. But yes, when this 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.000 buyer investigator is trying to figure out how this happened, 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:34.679 no one would talk to him, to the point where 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.520 he said Capricorn's brother finally answered her phone and said 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.040 leave her alone. It was very clear that no one 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:47.520 who actually knew what happened had any intention of talking 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.679 about what happened incriminating Ditty in any way. And as 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.480 you point out, fearful to do so, to even take 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.679 an officer's phone call. They wouldn't even answer the phone 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:03.040 that speaks volumes. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.920 We keep using that. We kept saying, Molotov cocktail, Molotov cocktail, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:19.640 and if you're familiar, it's essentially a bottle with whatever accelerating, aacoline, alcohol, whatever, 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.160 and then you stick a rag in the top, you 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.640 light it, then you toss the thing, and when you 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.080 toss it, of course something is on fire. But then 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:31.400 the fluid that's in there spreads with the flame and 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.760 it causes more destruction. This officer robe said this was 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:40.240 a crappy Molotov cocktail. Somebody didn't understand the concept, because 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.120 sure enough, they cut a hole in the top of 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.839 his car, but it was kind of just placed in there. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:45.440 It didn't break. 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.960 Yes, if it breaks open, then the fuel whatever it is, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.439 spreads and there's a huge fire. They said it honestly. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:52.920 The car was so close to his home that if 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.280 they had done it correctly, not only would his car 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.040 have blown up, but his house most likely would have 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.280 caught fire as well. And I thought it was also 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.920 interesting when they just described with the Molotov cocktail looked 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.000 like it was an old English bottle, gasoline and a 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:09.480 designer handkerchief, a silk designer handkerchief. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.520 So you can hear like Chris Rock making a joke 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:16.880 about how that obviously we're. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.319 Gonna throw away or blow up a designer handkerchief. You 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:20.400 know how much those things cost? 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:25.240 I do, actually, because I only have one but old 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:30.040 English oh E malt liquor. This is some old school 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.679 hood stuff. Oh have you ever had? 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.160 I have never had. I didn't even know it was 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:36.640 referred to as O E. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.560 E yes malt licka. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.040 Do you think he was honestly with that, almost leaving 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.680 a signature oh E with a designer handkerchief. It's like, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.360 f you love ditty. I feel like that's what that said. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.959 Again, we get the implications here, and we are making 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.880 a little light of the oe bottle and a designer 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.599 a handkerchief, But this was absolutely a somebody was And 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.719 what the most more and the more violent thing. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:02.200 I didn't know. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.320 They cut a hole in the Porsche. They cut a 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.800 hole in the top to get this in there, but 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.920 again they placed it so it was just sitting in there. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.320 Gent At least a lot of people at this point 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:12.120 have seen a lot of the. 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.360 You throw a Molotov cocktail, do you not usually, Oh yeah, 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.640 so he can break it. You want it to break, Yes, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:18.640 it needs to break. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.400 But the video we have seen in the pictures of 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.920 his car don't go with a lot of the words 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.840 being used in some of the covers say his car 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.920 blew up or his car was there was a bombing 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.880 of some kind, because it just looked like it's charred 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:30.640 in places. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.040 That's why maybe this is total conjecture and my just 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.840 uninformed opinion to go for it. I'm going to say it. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.040 But maybe he didn't want the whole car to blow it. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.840 Maybe he wanted it to be a warning and he 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.480 wanted it to know that that was from him, based 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.319 on how he wanted the evidence of the Molotov cocktail 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.760 to stay intact so that Cuddy would know it was him. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.200 That's one theory. I don't subscribe to it. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.080 But that's some fun. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:59.600 It's a poor what just a bad idea, you know what. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.240 It sounds like something you didn't think through, you didn't 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.360 plan it. He called it a makeshift bomb of it 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.440 was something that the officer said. It just it was 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.360 not well done and it wasn't well executed. But thank 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.319 goodness said it wasn't. Then everybody ended up okay there 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.839 those two were up first on the day, but then Robes, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.920 the one we'd been hearing about talking about. They actually 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.360 expected to get to four witnesses yesterday and they actually 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.360 only got to three because Deontay Nash. They had him 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.920 up on the stand for quite a while. And this 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.880 is a celeberty stylist who by all accounts, he was 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.040 a character if you will, He had a personality on 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.040 the stand, but he made clear when he got up there, 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:39.120 I don't want to be here. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.640 Yes, one news outlet referred to him as cheeky, which 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.960 I think was appropriate. But yes, he was asked if 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.680 he was going to sue Diddy and he said no, 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.640 I'm focused on getting out of here as an out 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.840 of court. He didn't want to be there, and it 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.080 was very clear. And by that, with so many of 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.480 these witnesses who have been compelled to testify, you can 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.320 tell that they're not there for revenge. They're not there 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.520 to see Diddy go down. They're there almost against their will. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.000 Yeah, who was the I can't remember her name right now. 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.920 It was Cassie's former best friend who she said, did 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.360 he assaulted her and she lost her best friend over it, 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.439 because yes, her best friend essentially didn't shut her out, 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.880 but didn't stand up for her during that. That was 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.520 another young lady who said, I don't want to be here. 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.720 I want these people out of my life and out 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.400 of this world. And I've been working like she's she's 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.280 years removed from this. I don't want to be back here. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.080 That is a theme. Folks don't want anything to do 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:37.400 with this world. We've been hearing so much. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.520 It was so awful, and they don't want to return 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.360 to it, and I'm imagining a lot of them don't 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.680 want to remember it. But Deontae Nash did recall so 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:51.360 many memories of personally witnessing Cassie being kicked, talk about 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.320 dragged by the hair, and the one that the one 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.600 instance that he described was just so awful. She was 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.040 asleep on the couch and he was in the hotel 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.920 room with her and apparently she wasn't answering her phone 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.800 and it made him so angry. When he rushed into 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:14.080 the hotel room, he immediately just started, according to Deontay Nash, 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.760 just beating her and she ended up with a gash 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.720 on her head. So deep from hitting the headboard from 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.920 being hit that he wanted to call nine one one, 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.280 he said. But that is when Diddy said, no, I'll 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.600 just take her to my personal plastic surgeon. And he 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.000 saw her the next day with stitches on her head. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.840 That's where we talk about this again. This is at 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:41.240 least two people now who are who witness what they 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.960 describe at least as something that will get you years 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.640 in prison, and nobody called or stepped in or made 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.520 a change and continued working with this man. It's hard 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.360 to get your head around if you're on the outside 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.320 like us rogues. But people are telling these stories just 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.240 how trapped they felt, and it's painting a picture of 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.280 a world that quite frankly, I would argue, as a 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.200 kid in the nineties, we all wanted to be a 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.560 part of that world. It all looked so glamorous from 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.960 the outside. We all rooted for Diddy, we were all 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.320 just I mean, I remember the first time I met Diddy. 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.720 I was so I was over the moon, and I'm 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.200 talking I was a grown man. I'm thought I was 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.880 forty years old or something, and I'm still just in 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.680 awe and to think, like wow, we all just watch it. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.160 It makes you feel six to your stomach, doesn't it, because. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.360 We all seem to be a part of it. And 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.360 to some degree, obviously. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.080 He but you didn't know what you didn't know? And 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.400 the sad thing is the people who were seeing testified 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.640 didn't know, and for whatever reason, they didn't do anything 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.400 about it. This one, this really stood out to me. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.840 What Deontay testified to He said that moment where she 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.440 got the gash on her head, and there was he said, 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.720 there was blood everywhere. Obviously heads bleed a lot. And 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.360 what did did he say when that happened? He looked 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.240 at Deontay, Nash and Cassie and said, look what y'all 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.160 made me do? Is that not a classic line of 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:01.960 an abuser? Look what you made me do? Taking zero 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.080 responsibility and blaming the victim and blaming the people who 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.360 loved her. That is horrific. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.600 What was the one part of the story as well? 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:17.000 He said this was he said, a switch kind of 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.480 flipped with ditty. And we've heard several witnesses testified who 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.880 said they saw him being violent, or at least they 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.120 keep using the word rage. There's a rage in him. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.200 And Nasher was describing this moment before he said, look 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.040 what y'all made me do? He said he turned into 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.920 a different person and completely calmed when he saw the blood. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.640 He said, he was a totally different guy. And it's 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.880 like a switch just flipped at that moment when he 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.800 saw blood everywhere. But I think Cassi, even to her, 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.360 she's been to her fine and testified about it as well, 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.440 saying that was a moment that just blackened his eyes, 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.000 like she didn't recognize who he was. 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:56.000 That's scary. That is wild, very scary. And another thing 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.560 that was just so heartbreaking. And we've used that word 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.400 so much when talking about the testimony that we've been 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.480 hearing in this trial. But when Deontay talked about how 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:09.080 did he forced him to take him to the hotel 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.240 where Cassie was hiding from him. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.119 He can I bag up on the story. So I 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.359 have notes here and I actually put them out of order. 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.399 So this goes that the conclusion to this story you 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.360 were about to give is the part that sinks your 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.439 heart once again. But this was a time where he 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:32.040 was once again looking for Cassie. Cassie ends up in 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:37.119 this incident at his house. He takes her from his 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:38.920 house because he got a heads up that did he 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.040 was on the way looking for Cassie. He takes Cassie 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.320 in a car from his house to Sunset Boulevard, just 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.320 drops off, like, go tell her to go Scared. They 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.600 both like, you're planning an escape from somebody. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.600 You're dropping someone off in the middle of a massive 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.640 busy road and just say figure it out. But you're 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.680 safer here than you are with me or anywhere near him. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.840 Oh yes, Diddy ends up coming over, but she's not 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.439 there at that point, says looked. He looked in the oven. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.399 He looked up and down. That sounds like a crazy person. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.920 He looked in the oven. Like closets too, But okay, 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.959 I can understand why he would look in a closet. 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.200 But like the fact that you're searching for someone who 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.920 is clearly hiding from you is sad and scary all 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.359 in one. But yeah, he looked in the oven. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.760 But from this incident, they end up like you were 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.960 going here, They go to the hotel. So all this 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.359 is going on, Nash ends up getting forced to take 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:33.920 Ditty to the hotel where Cassie's hiding out. Sins Nash 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:38.920 and a security guard upstairs to get Cassie who was 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.720 up there hiding out. And this is where it just 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:47.080 go Jesus, this puts you in a to try to 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:52.040 understand where her head was, where her heart was, where 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.080 she was in life? Is this story? 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.840 Oh it's hard to even repeat what she did. But 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.840 when he got up, when Deanta gets up into the 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.280 hotel room and he's supposed to bring her back down 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:10.920 to Ditty waiting in the car, he said that she 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.919 was in the balcony. She was walking towards it, and 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.280 she said she wanted to go over the balcony, and 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.720 he was sure she was going to harm herself. She 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.800 was going to jump off the balcony of that hotel 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.120 room rather than go back downstairs with him and get 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:26.600 in the car with Ditty. 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.359 There was someone else who was it else that I 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.080 think she spoke of it at the time. She wanted 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:33.280 to just walk out into traffic. 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:34.040 Yep. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.119 There was another time a friend of hers said that 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.399 after Ditty had assaulted her, Cassie was at her house 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.679 and she was just sitting on the couch. Diddy was 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:46.080 banging on the door just violently. Everybody else was freaking out. 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.480 Cassie was sitting on the couch calmly while was going on, 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.800 and her friend said, I don't think she cared if 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.679 she lived or died. Yeah, these are three stories that 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.440 seemed fairly consistent if you will, with a woman who 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:58.000 just wanted to. 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.040 Give up, well she was. You wouldn't get to that 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.640 place or have those thoughts unless you were searching for relief, 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.920 and that sounded better. Death sounded better than dealing with 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.639 the hell she was living in. And that is just 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:18.920 awful and horrific, and it's just one of the saddest 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.840 things I've ever heard. Just you can try to put 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.960 yourself in her position and imagine how hopeless and how 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.040 trapped you must feel to think that was the only 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.000 way out. And you know a lot of this and 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.960 this is what Deontay testified to as well. So much 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.360 of this was about blackmail because people say just leave, 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:42.479