Speaker 1: Welcome to pod meets Twirled, the Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: recap hosted by two guys who can't dance, don't want
Speaker 1: to dance, and have now seen nine episodes of Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. But since our best friend Danielle joined
Speaker 1: the cast for thirty four, we're going all in. We
Speaker 1: are Wilfred Ell and Ryder Strong aka the two dudes
Speaker 1: standing next to Topanga aka daniel Fishal's backup aka the
Speaker 1: dan Yettes.
Speaker 2: Hello Will, Hello Rider.
Speaker 1: How was our first episode with no Danielle?
Speaker 2: It was fine, you know, it's obviously it's it's lost
Speaker 2: a bit of its allure.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 2: I'm still in on trying to see who's going to win,
Speaker 2: but I can detach myself from it more. I don't
Speaker 2: have the same anxiety watching the show. I'm not rooting
Speaker 2: for it as much as I mean, our friend isn't
Speaker 2: on it anymore, so it's a little different.
Speaker 1: I had a little interesting journey. I was not looking
Speaker 1: forward to this. I was really ready. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just like, you know, are we still doing this? Do
Speaker 1: I care about the show?
Speaker 2: And then you started.
Speaker 1: I think this was my favorite episode of the season.
Speaker 2: Really well, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: First of all, it gave perspective on the rest on
Speaker 1: the history of the show, which was so important for
Speaker 1: me because I've seen nothing and getting a sense of
Speaker 1: how deep this and how long this show goes, I
Speaker 1: was like wow, and I really came to appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I loved the dances. I loved like getting glimpses of
Speaker 1: the past, past dances and past competitors. I really enjoyed.
Speaker 1: It was like an education in the history of Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars and I don't know, like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it gave me a sense of like continuity. It gave
Speaker 1: me a lot of respect for all the figures of
Speaker 1: the show, all the judges, like I just I just
Speaker 1: came to I don't know, you know, it was like
Speaker 1: a little recap for me. And then I really thought
Speaker 1: the dancing was incredible this week.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I liked it. I find and again I
Speaker 2: understand why they're doing this, especially for the twentieth anniversary,
Speaker 2: but they they really waded into the cheese factor this week.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was heavy on the cheese this week
Speaker 2: of just you know, the past and the people we've lost,
Speaker 2: and I get it. I mean I understand it, but
Speaker 2: there's a kind of like a self importance to it?
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Where it's like, look what we've
Speaker 2: done in the history of Dancing with the Stars, And
Speaker 2: I get it, and I know that it's been hugely important.
Speaker 2: And I loved seeing like young Derek Huff when he
Speaker 2: started dancing, and then that was incredible, incredible how a
Speaker 2: baby looked like and then seeing them to get into
Speaker 2: to lens seat all that, Like those journeys were really
Speaker 2: really cool to watch, but it was. But I find
Speaker 2: these same things with a lot of award shows too.
Speaker 2: It's just it's very melodramatic a lot of times for
Speaker 2: really not much reason.
Speaker 1: But see, I like that. I guess I like the
Speaker 1: cheese because here's the thing. None of this matters, right,
Speaker 1: just like the Oscars. None of this matters. Actually, what
Speaker 1: we're talking about is a seemingly meaningless thing art, Like
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't dance. It is not going to
Speaker 1: change the world in so many ways. So I find
Speaker 1: it really nice when show business leans into its importance
Speaker 1: and says like, hey, actually this is big, a big deal.
Speaker 1: These are human beings going through this, it matters. I
Speaker 1: like that because I feel that often and I feel
Speaker 1: like Hollywood is superficial and gets this rep for being just.
Speaker 1: But it takes so much work to do these things.
Speaker 1: It's so much energy. It does take people dedicating their
Speaker 1: lives to being a host on some random TV show
Speaker 1: that we're all watching that's getting huge ratings. So I
Speaker 1: tend to go the opposite. I'm like, because it's so meaningless.
Speaker 1: There's a need to say, hey, actually, you've been on
Speaker 1: this journey for a long time. If you're watching this
Speaker 1: right now, there's a reason you care about this because
Speaker 1: people have dedicated their lives and their energies towards it
Speaker 1: and are still doing that. Let's appreciate that for a moment.
Speaker 1: If it was every week, I agree, But like, you know,
Speaker 1: one a year, when the Oscars come around, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, let's let's highlight this the effort.
Speaker 2: And you know, because if we don't know, you're not
Speaker 2: forget the Oscars. You're not highlighting the effort. You're highlighting
Speaker 2: the people that are there. You're highlighting who what dresses
Speaker 2: you're wearing, and the four hours on the red carpet.
Speaker 2: I don't care about self important, but that I don't
Speaker 2: care about the red cart that you don't. But that's
Speaker 2: part of the of the night. That's part of the
Speaker 2: glitter and the glamour that pagenger of and the pageantry.
Speaker 2: And to me, I've never liked that. I've never been
Speaker 2: into the pageantry of anything. To me, contententry for pageantry's
Speaker 2: sake is just like, let's see how big a thing
Speaker 2: we can produce and make a thing that's kind of
Speaker 2: important seem like it's really important, Like oh my god,
Speaker 2: who had the best supporting actor this year in a
Speaker 2: film they only made twenty million dollars to do? And
Speaker 2: to me, I'm like, like, I just don't care.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's the other side of that coin,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, the sound mixer who has dedicated
Speaker 1: their entire life has the chance to win an award
Speaker 1: and get up on stage with their peers and say
Speaker 1: what I do is important.
Speaker 2: So absolutely a lot of that is not that same
Speaker 2: night as the actors and everything. It's a night before
Speaker 2: that isn't even televised.
Speaker 1: Well sure, but you know, I just think that in general,
Speaker 1: like what the I mean? I agree, Like I don't
Speaker 1: care about like the Red Car. I never watch any
Speaker 1: of that stuff, like who are you wearing? But the
Speaker 1: actual the idea that the industry takes a moment to celebrate.
Speaker 1: Like for me, the nominees are always the most important
Speaker 1: part because who gets nominated tends to actually be because
Speaker 1: they're nominated from within their own discipline, right, So like, sure,
Speaker 1: you know, actors nominate the actors. Sound mixers nominate the
Speaker 1: sound mix like those professionals. It's a chance to recognize
Speaker 1: each other. And I tend to find that the nominees
Speaker 1: usually I agree with. I'm usually like, those were the
Speaker 1: best of this year in film, and so I I
Speaker 1: just think it's a it's an opportunity to recognize, you know,
Speaker 1: hardworking people.
Speaker 2: No again, I have no problem recognizing hardworking people at all.
Speaker 2: I think it's amazing. I think recognizing the art is amazing.
Speaker 2: But I think needless pageantry. It's like Miss Universe. I'm
Speaker 2: sure all those women have worked very hard to do
Speaker 2: that pageantry. I don't care. It's to me. I just
Speaker 2: the the kind of the glitter and glamour of things
Speaker 2: for the sake of glitter and glamour. Have just and
Speaker 2: it's a personal thing. Have never done it for me.
Speaker 2: I find it to be a little bit cheesy. I
Speaker 2: love the idea that they're doing, like, hey, here's the
Speaker 2: dancers that were part of the show that we've lost.
Speaker 2: That's that's important stuff in saying that, but it just yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Well, in this case, it's not for me. Glitz and
Speaker 1: glamour is the whole thing.
Speaker 2: It's the show.
Speaker 1: It's part glitz and glamor. I thought, okay, let's get
Speaker 1: into the opening montage. Was I thought, fantastic, great, a
Speaker 1: great way to get a glimpse of seasons as. And
Speaker 1: then this opening dance number incredible, incredible, the Pros dancing.
Speaker 1: I was just like wow. And then to find out
Speaker 1: that Derek did the choreography. I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: why he's here.
Speaker 2: I apparently won for Emmys just for choreography.
Speaker 1: This guy, like that was one of the greatest like
Speaker 1: dance numbers, the best dance number I've seen the Pros
Speaker 1: do this season.
Speaker 2: I was incredible. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And then when they announced that he had done it,
Speaker 1: you know, and they gave him recognition after the fact,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, that makes sense why he's in
Speaker 1: the judge and see he is so good. He is
Speaker 1: he deserves so much credit because that choreography was astounding.
Speaker 2: And starting with the original dancers. Was was a great
Speaker 2: way to start because again, we don't know any of
Speaker 2: these people. We know, we were going in totally cold.
Speaker 2: So seeing all that, yes, no, I loved all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I just some of it tonight got it just a
Speaker 2: little heavy for me for for what it is. That's
Speaker 2: all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All right, first dance up Laine and Allen doing a salsa.
Speaker 2: Lots of green, lots of green, lime, green everywhere.
Speaker 1: This had such a nineties vibe to it. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: Eve with the squiggles and his shirt and like all
Speaker 1: of Yeah. I thought this was a really good move
Speaker 1: stylistically for her. I felt like, you know, we've because
Speaker 1: like the last couple dance, I mean, obviously she didn't
Speaker 1: dance two weeks ago. Last week was very conservative. I
Speaker 1: felt a little boring. This was really fun and showed
Speaker 1: that she can really dance. I was like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: you are you know. Of course, as the night went on,
Speaker 1: got blown out of the water by Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought it was okay. I liked that it was
Speaker 2: high energy to start, but yeah, I thought the dance
Speaker 2: was just okay. Frankly, really, yeah, I did I thought
Speaker 2: it was. I thought that the outfits for a little
Speaker 2: much for me. Yeah, and again I love the high
Speaker 2: and it might also be frankly, they they might have
Speaker 2: been kind of screwed a little bit by coming right
Speaker 2: off of that giant dance number, Yes, where we just
Speaker 2: saw these the best, arguably the best dances in the world,
Speaker 2: doing incredibly choreographed thing.
Speaker 1: So then this dance, which again I thought was okay, well,
Speaker 1: but something was interesting because they were doing homages to
Speaker 1: previous dances, right. What that meant is that stylistically, a
Speaker 1: lot of the dances felt out of touch or like
Speaker 1: you could you were watching them through the lens of
Speaker 1: like several years or maybe ten years. And I kind
Speaker 1: of appreciated that because obviously, like trends change, costumes changed,
Speaker 1: life and styles change, and like if you're trying, like
Speaker 1: so much of this show has been trying to be
Speaker 1: on the cutting edge of culture, like trying to be
Speaker 1: cool and sexy or classy in a way that is
Speaker 1: interpreted through the lens of now. Whereas because they were
Speaker 1: doing homages to ten years ago, twenty years ago, within
Speaker 1: the last twenty it ended up kind of having like
Speaker 1: a sort of permission to be a little dated in
Speaker 1: a fun way. So like this one I was watching.
Speaker 1: If this had just been presented as like a contemporary, current,
Speaker 1: cool dance, I was like, eh. But because it was
Speaker 1: through the lens of word paying homage to a dance
Speaker 1: from years years ago, and then the whole set in
Speaker 1: the style felt very dated to me or like hokey
Speaker 1: in a way, it was fun. It was like, oh cool,
Speaker 1: we're doing it through, We're in, We're in. We're investing
Speaker 1: in something that is a little cheesy, but we're just
Speaker 1: going to go for it because it's, you know, an homage.
Speaker 1: I like that approach the whole night. It made everything
Speaker 1: a little easier to swallow from me.
Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought there's an interesting because
Speaker 2: when we talked to Sharon or last week, it was
Speaker 2: she talked about how the dances are changing all the time,
Speaker 2: but at the same time they still have this to
Speaker 2: have some kind of tether to the original dance. So
Speaker 2: there's something interesting about that balance of we want to
Speaker 2: make it look modern, but we still know that it
Speaker 2: has to be based on something from the eighteen hundreds
Speaker 2: that that shouldn't change, right. So I dig that and
Speaker 2: I get that I also think, and this is just
Speaker 2: my personal opinion, I think personally, Danielle did better several
Speaker 2: weeks than Elaine has, and so the fact that she's
Speaker 2: still there and Danielle's gone, I think I'm holding that
Speaker 2: personally against the Lane, which again is a stupid thing
Speaker 2: to do. It's not a Lane's fault that people have
Speaker 2: been voting for her, but I think that's one of
Speaker 2: the things where I'm kind of like, I still think
Speaker 2: Danielle was a better dancer than her, So maybe I'm
Speaker 2: looking for things wrong with it, But I thought that
Speaker 2: had this exact same dance been done last week or
Speaker 2: the week before, it would have been four eights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got nines across the board. I was definitely like, really,
Speaker 1: maybe cannbe a little but I think we're at the
Speaker 1: stage in the competition where es scores are just through
Speaker 1: the roof.
Speaker 2: I also liked how I did like how they came
Speaker 2: in high energy and they started high energy you needed
Speaker 2: to and so it was a good way to start
Speaker 2: the night, I will say that.
Speaker 1: And then we went on to Robert and Whitney. In
Speaker 1: their pre show package, he talked about going to some
Speaker 1: event where Prince William was going to be there, so
Speaker 1: then he got a call from Prince William.
Speaker 2: Like you do like you do to him yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they went into their dance, which was
Speaker 1: an homage to his sister's dance and was very emotional
Speaker 1: in terms of its background and its meaning.
Speaker 2: I found the dance a look boring. I agree with
Speaker 2: you one hundred percent, it's good.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Robert can dance is great. But I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you know, and then you know, when
Speaker 1: he broke down at the end, I was.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's a little much.
Speaker 1: Now. I know.
Speaker 2: It's a terrible that. It's a terrible thing to say
Speaker 2: because it's obviously about his family, which is hugely important
Speaker 2: to him. But this dance ended exactly the way the
Speaker 2: dedication I ended, except he was holding his sister's hand
Speaker 2: instead of his mother's hand. Right, He's obviously dancing with
Speaker 2: the stars Royalty. His father hugely important in his life.
Speaker 2: Nobody's trying to take anything away from that. He seemed
Speaker 2: his dad seemed like an amazing guy. Everybody loved him
Speaker 2: huge in his country. But it doesn't it wasn't just
Speaker 2: that to me. It's like at the end where he
Speaker 2: was voted through. He gets this expression on his face
Speaker 2: and like he jumps like he can't belie leave it
Speaker 2: happened when he knows he's going to be voted through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, my my, my hot take,
Speaker 1: which maybe isn't that hot, is that they really want
Speaker 1: Robert to win.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, everybody wants I think everybody.
Speaker 1: No, I mean the judges, the producer, the show wants
Speaker 1: Robert to win because this was a straight up nine dance.
Speaker 1: To me, this was not a ten, and they gave
Speaker 1: it tens across the board and then later when they
Speaker 1: do their relay thing, he did not deserve to win
Speaker 1: that I feel no, I feel like so like this
Speaker 1: was my first indication. I was like, okay, yeah, like
Speaker 1: I get your this is there's a great story behind
Speaker 1: this dance. But let's just look at that dance and
Speaker 1: when they gave it tens and the comments that they
Speaker 1: made like he was just the greatest, obviously the greatest
Speaker 1: dancer that has ever graced us with his presence. I
Speaker 1: was like, guys, he's already been great.
Speaker 2: He is great.
Speaker 1: You're not holding him to the same standard of like
Speaker 1: you could do a little bit more, you could push yourself.
Speaker 2: Do you think they're going to give him a note?
Speaker 2: You think they're ever going to go They didn't give
Speaker 2: him a note. I have another hot take to add
Speaker 2: to that, since we're talking about this. I also think
Speaker 2: because it's ABC and Hulu, they really want to keep
Speaker 2: Whitney around too, because Whitney is on their biggest thing
Speaker 2: right now, which is The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Speaker 2: It's like the biggest thing in the network. She got
Speaker 2: immunity this week from having to dance and got extra
Speaker 2: points the week before that she.
Speaker 1: Was but he danced this week was insane. It was
Speaker 1: len dancing tonight though, Oh my god, I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: go yeah, I like, but I feel like when they
Speaker 1: gave this all tens, I was like, oh wow, this
Speaker 1: And I think that they kind of screwed themselves because
Speaker 1: by giving this tense, they had to give tens across
Speaker 1: the board because the other dances were genuinely better than
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: Oh and Mormon Wives the new season apparently premiered this week.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I thought Whitney's dance was incredible. It was great,
Speaker 1: but I think Robert and Whitney here were like good
Speaker 1: but not tens and so, but I feel like the
Speaker 1: producers of the show, the judges of the show love
Speaker 1: him so much. They want him to win. They gave
Speaker 1: him tens and then because of that, I had to
Speaker 1: stick with tens. There's so many tens because it was like, right,
Speaker 1: and we're not.
Speaker 2: Bashing on Robert. He seems like the most likable guy
Speaker 2: in the world. He's obviously working his butt off. He's
Speaker 2: very good at what he does. Ye but they clearly want.
Speaker 1: To predestined things he's gonna win.
Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: All right. Next up we add Andy Richter and Emma
Speaker 1: Slater doing a quick step. Well, here we are, Andy
Speaker 1: still in the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just.
Speaker 1: Kind of is what it is with an I know,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about their relay dance later, which I thought
Speaker 1: was much better than this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again because it's through the.
Speaker 1: Lens of this sort of like self conscious show busy
Speaker 1: thing putting on the ritz.
Speaker 2: I thought it was fun. It was fun. All of
Speaker 2: his dances are fun. They're just not pticularly good dances.
Speaker 2: So it's I mean, she is working her ass off,
Speaker 2: his partner, he's working his butt off. Nobody nobody is
Speaker 2: saying he's not. Actually, I would actually say this.
Speaker 1: Might have been one of his best dances. I don't
Speaker 1: disagree in terms of like his feet doing the things
Speaker 1: that they needed to do. I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't because when he first walked down the steps, I
Speaker 1: was like, he can't even walk down the stairs. He
Speaker 1: was walking down the stairs sideways, and you could tell
Speaker 1: that He's like yes, and so I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is going to be a disaster, and then it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was actually pretty.
Speaker 2: Damn good, and I read looked great. I was like, cool, man,
Speaker 2: you're doing it.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe he would get more eights than you did,
Speaker 1: but yeah, eight seven seven seven. My wife was watching
Speaker 1: and she was like, you know, we could have connected
Speaker 1: with her more like that. He was kind of doing
Speaker 1: his own thing and not necessarily connecting.
Speaker 2: I think he's probably trying to remember the dance and
Speaker 2: counting the steps in his head as she's saying things
Speaker 2: like six seven eight. I mean, I think he's got
Speaker 2: nine hundred things going on. It's not effortless right now.
Speaker 2: And again, I think that's one of the reasons people
Speaker 2: kept voting for him, is because a they saw there
Speaker 2: was some progress, and there clearly has been. You go
Speaker 2: and watch this and you watch his first dance, there
Speaker 2: has clearly been progress. But it's also the fact that
Speaker 2: you know he's working his butt off apparently he's a
Speaker 2: TikTok machine where they're all just putting out these tiktoks
Speaker 2: all the time, and so he's playing the game. And
Speaker 2: you know, I don't fault him for it. It's not again,
Speaker 2: I don't blame any of the dancers. The dancers aren't
Speaker 2: voting for themselves, right, So, Yeah.
Speaker 1: There was this moment later in the show where Andy
Speaker 1: talked about what it was like being on the show
Speaker 1: and how it was like all dancing and all TikTok videos,
Speaker 1: you know, and he gave him a credit for pushing
Speaker 1: him in both arenas, and I had this like weird realization.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this show is now like fifty
Speaker 1: percent of it is the social media. Yeah, at least
Speaker 1: and like controlling that narrative and promoting yourself there, which
Speaker 1: is not part of what like I'm watching right, Like
Speaker 1: i'm watching this season. I'm looking at just what's on
Speaker 1: the screen and what's being aired as part of this show.
Speaker 1: But that's not even really that's half the show. The
Speaker 1: other half of the show is what these people are
Speaker 1: doing in social media and how they're forging their narratives
Speaker 1: and creating those stories. And like Andy has obviously been
Speaker 1: doing really well at that and apparently Emma is really
Speaker 1: good at coaching him in that arena as well. So
Speaker 1: I just thought that was super interesting that we're just
Speaker 1: at this point where a reality show like this is
Speaker 1: not just the show, no barely any at all anymore,
Speaker 1: it's what's going on every week on their social media
Speaker 1: pages and their TikTok in particular, And I was just like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is a it's a weird it's a whole new
Speaker 1: media jungle out there. Seven completely a part of.
Speaker 2: And I told you, I don't have an Instagram, kind
Speaker 2: of have a Finsta account that I check occasionally, and
Speaker 2: I looked at one Dancing with the Stars thing, and
Speaker 2: now when I look at it, it's nine hundred people
Speaker 2: talking about Dancing with the Stars, and it's I heard
Speaker 2: this rumor, I heard that rumor? Or did you hear
Speaker 2: about this? And then it's the tiktoks that Andy does
Speaker 2: or the tiktoks that Danielle did. It's part of the job.
Speaker 2: It is twenty four to seven. Wow, yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1: All right, they got eight seven seven seven.
Speaker 2: I could have seen another eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I guess doesn't really matter in the end,
Speaker 1: but at this point, I was like, Wow, is Andy
Speaker 1: gonna stick around another week?
Speaker 2: Oh? I thought he was, I thought.
Speaker 1: After the relay, I was like, Oh, the crowd's going
Speaker 1: to love this, I thought. And we went into an
Speaker 1: inn memoriam Oscar style, a dance going on in the
Speaker 1: foreground with some pros while the screen was showing people
Speaker 1: who had died. I was very relieved to realize that
Speaker 1: not everyone they were listening had died this year. That
Speaker 1: took me a moment because at the Oscars it's who
Speaker 1: died that year, and I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: Summers was this year and it was the same, and
Speaker 1: it was like, no, it's just people who have that
Speaker 1: they've lost in the twenty year history of this show
Speaker 1: made a lot more sense. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what a banner year for deaths. No, not the case.
Speaker 1: I thought this was really sweet.
Speaker 2: It was sweet.
Speaker 1: After the in memoriam, Dylan and Daniella bringing out the
Speaker 1: Argentine Tango, my favorite dance, which made a couple appearances tonight.
Speaker 1: The best yep passo doble kind of took over last
Speaker 1: week and I was like, oh that one's good.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 1: The Argentine Tango back on top. Just kills.
Speaker 2: These people are so smart to see you mouth everywhere
Speaker 2: you go. Now, I love it so much. It was great.
Speaker 1: This was insane.
Speaker 2: This was dance of the night for me. They both
Speaker 2: just crushed it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, her swimming move at the beginning where
Speaker 1: he's holding her up, the strength that it takes for
Speaker 1: him to hold her, and the strength in her body
Speaker 1: to say, rigid plank like that, why is kicking your
Speaker 1: legs and make it believable and seamless and just crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this was just so fun to watch.
Speaker 1: It was expressive, It was sexy. The connection is just
Speaker 1: like brilliant, and like his ability to like be the
Speaker 1: sort of frame that she's throwing herself around. And of
Speaker 1: course I still she's the best dancer. I've never she's
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 2: This week she's the best.
Speaker 1: Yes, And like he is rising to like be her
Speaker 1: partner and god like I and and this is where
Speaker 1: I felt like they went, oh, we shouldn't have given
Speaker 1: tens to rush.
Speaker 2: That's because this blew that out of the water.
Speaker 1: There's no way if you give this tens that those
Speaker 1: were eights like that, This is you know, this deserves eleven.
Speaker 2: Or twenty different level. He also to me, Dylan looked
Speaker 2: like and I turned to Sue halfway through, I was like,
Speaker 2: he looks like a thirties movie star. Yes, like he
Speaker 2: looked like Errol Flynn up there kind of dancing. It
Speaker 2: was really amazing. I mean, they're both perfectly and I
Speaker 2: know this isn't right because she's a professional, but both
Speaker 2: perfectly castes as these two people going on this journey together.
Speaker 2: It's like you couldn't have put two people together. He
Speaker 2: no one else could have done for him what she
Speaker 2: has done for him. Dance once and he has stepped
Speaker 2: up every and this was the first time. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: they both looked like pros. They fully both looked like pros. Tonight, Yeah,
Speaker 2: dance of the night for me. He crushed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was incredible. So yeah, ten ten, ten ten,
Speaker 1: well deserved. Hell yah, man, I hope these guys make
Speaker 1: it to the finale.
Speaker 2: It's but do you have competition anybody can beat Robert? No?
Speaker 2: I don't either. I think it's already been progestined.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I think that the show itself is
Speaker 1: really making it hard for anybody to beat Robert, which
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so curious what the what the audience
Speaker 1: votes are, because I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of backlash to that, because it
Speaker 1: starts to feel like, oh, well, he's the obvious, and
Speaker 1: then people will stop voting for him just because they
Speaker 1: assume that he's getting all the votes, and that might
Speaker 1: you know, that might be somebody else.
Speaker 2: I agree. And I was back east. Both Susan and
Speaker 2: I were back east last week, and she was in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: I was in Connecticut, where both of their families, and
Speaker 2: then we met up in the middle and wherever we went,
Speaker 2: we were talking about Dancing with the Stars, and just
Speaker 2: for the heck of it, I would start talking about
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars with the waiters or the weight
Speaker 2: staff or somebody who worked at a place wherever we were.
Speaker 2: I think of maybe the five people, six people I
Speaker 2: talked to, four of them watched the show regularly. All
Speaker 2: of them were voting for Robert. Wow. Every single girls, boys,
Speaker 2: different ages, all of them are like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I can't I vote for Robert. Every week, every single
Speaker 2: person was voting for Robert Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's crazy crazy, then he probably will win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, all right.
Speaker 1: Next up, we had Jordan and Ezra doing the Cha cha.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like she is in a tough
Speaker 1: position because she is doing so well, she is committing
Speaker 1: so hard, but I just don't feel like she's getting
Speaker 1: the support for the same you know, in the same way.
Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, their whole goal they talk
Speaker 1: about in the pre show was to try and be
Speaker 1: sexy and passionate in a way that she hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to showcase.
Speaker 2: And I thought she nailed it. I thought so too, frankly.
Speaker 2: And it was cool. It was a cool dance.
Speaker 1: And I really appreciated Derek's feedback because what he was
Speaker 1: saying was like, we know you can do the athleticism,
Speaker 1: We know you can do the big moves, but what
Speaker 1: your what your journey and your growth has been is
Speaker 1: in texture and the way that you're learning to express
Speaker 1: things with your body. And I felt that and it
Speaker 1: was exactly what I was. I hadn't I couldn't put
Speaker 1: it into words, and he put it into words. And
Speaker 1: I'm so glad he gave her a ten because I
Speaker 1: thought that if we're going to reward people for their
Speaker 1: personal journeys, if we're going to be giving Andy an
Speaker 1: eight in a situation where he's clearly never going to
Speaker 1: be more than a six or seven. Then somebody like
Speaker 1: Jordan who is athletically move wise doing tens, but also
Speaker 1: growing emotionally and expressively in ways that is not super
Speaker 1: easy for her, comfortable for her or immediate, we should
Speaker 1: reward that too. This is this is her journey and
Speaker 1: so and the point.
Speaker 2: You were making before, were you and I not fully disagree.
Speaker 2: I kind of agree about the pageantry a little bit,
Speaker 2: but you know me with the kind of stuff. But
Speaker 2: this was one of those times too, where you saw
Speaker 2: how important Dancing with the Stars was to her because
Speaker 2: in her preshow package she's talking about like as a kid,
Speaker 2: all she wanted to do was learn every Dancing with
Speaker 2: the Stars dance. Here's a girl who from the time
Speaker 2: or a woman now, but when she was a girl
Speaker 2: was probably already a top athlete at seven eight years old,
Speaker 2: but she wanted to come home and do the dances
Speaker 2: with Dancing with the Stars. So I get the importance
Speaker 2: of the show. I really do. It's just for me,
Speaker 2: it's a little much, but I can see how for
Speaker 2: someone like her it's the equivalent literally of I played
Speaker 2: little league. I'm always saying, oh, I mean my backyard
Speaker 2: holding a bat going it's bottom of the ninth, there's
Speaker 2: two outs. It's on me. This is her world series.
Speaker 2: She's been doing this since she was a little kid,
Speaker 2: and now you're on the biggest stage on Dancing with
Speaker 2: the Stars. You've made it and you're trying to get
Speaker 2: as far as you can't. I totally get that, and
Speaker 2: I get the journey, and I get the importance. I
Speaker 2: just it's a little much for me, but I get
Speaker 2: it all right.
Speaker 1: They got nine, ten, nine and nine, which.
Speaker 3: I guess it was.
Speaker 2: I could have seen two tens and two.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say another ten felt deserved in this case.
Speaker 1: I could have seen I could have seen Bruno giving
Speaker 1: her how interesting. I was glad that they highlighted how
Speaker 1: they have to mark their scores before they speak the judges.
Speaker 1: I thought that was really because I wasn't quite clear
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Oh remember did you hear early ones where they're like,
Speaker 2: remember we were at the show, the first show, and
Speaker 2: they're like, lock it in, lock it in. I the
Speaker 2: one person.
Speaker 1: Hadn't locked it in, I think, or Bruno hadn't locked it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I but it was really cool to because I started
Speaker 1: to think, like, aren't they influencing each other in their comments?
Speaker 1: And it's really nice to know that's not the case,
Speaker 1: that they're actually defending their scores or explaining their scores
Speaker 1: before those scores are revealed. Actually, that's what the judging
Speaker 1: is an opportunity to or an opportunity for. And it
Speaker 1: was also I loved hearing we'll get into later when
Speaker 1: they do the flashbacks and they were talking about the
Speaker 1: judges in their role. I loved hearing how Derek still
Speaker 1: thinks of it as a teaching opportunity, right. He was like,
Speaker 1: you go from coaching somebody all season and having hours
Speaker 1: during their dance to only having.
Speaker 2: Thirty seconds to give feedback and teach them.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's so cool that he's looking at
Speaker 1: this as a teaching opportunity and a and he's he's
Speaker 1: so good. Man. Well that's why my respect for derekof
Speaker 1: too just started to take him for granted. You know,
Speaker 1: I've always appreciated his comments, but I didn't know the history.
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the history, lived the history, and man,
Speaker 1: tonight really like.
Speaker 2: To talk to him about his journey. But this is
Speaker 2: you mentioned the scoring, so this is kind of an
Speaker 2: interesting time to talk about this. So Sasha Farber, who
Speaker 2: was one of the original maybe not one of the ogs,
Speaker 2: but for years was one of the professional dancers. He
Speaker 2: did a live reddit last week where he kind of
Speaker 2: gets into the scoring system because we keep going back
Speaker 2: back and forth on what the hell the scoring is.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to read a little bit of what
Speaker 2: was said and see if we can try to decipher
Speaker 2: any of it, because a lot of it is very confusing.
Speaker 2: So it said after Bobby Bones, who was we talked
Speaker 2: with Sharna that was her partner who they won the
Speaker 2: whole thing and maybe shouldn't have. They talked about how
Speaker 2: that kind of changed the ranking system. So if there
Speaker 2: are five contestants, you get one to five points based
Speaker 2: on where you're placed on the judge's score, and then
Speaker 2: one to five based on where you sit ranking based
Speaker 2: on ranking with the votes, and then they combine the
Speaker 2: two so it's not a percentage system. So then somebody
Speaker 2: else explained it how this is how the scoring system
Speaker 2: in the German version works, and they think that this
Speaker 2: is the same, but they show it on a leaderboard.
Speaker 2: For example, five couples are left in the show. Couple
Speaker 2: one has thirty thirty jury points, or the highest score
Speaker 2: of five points they would get ranking Couple two is
Speaker 2: twenty eight points, so they get four points, and so
Speaker 2: on and so on. So where you rank on the
Speaker 2: leader board, you either get a five, four, three, two one,
Speaker 2: and then they do the same thing for percentage of
Speaker 2: votes that people call in, so you're five fourths. So
Speaker 2: if you get the highest judge of scores, you get
Speaker 2: a five, and then you get the highest calling scores,
Speaker 2: you get a five. So your ten gets you through
Speaker 2: to the next week. Is I believe how they do
Speaker 2: it all. It sounds it's confusing as hell, but I
Speaker 2: believe that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1: No, that actually it's it's a way to really boil
Speaker 1: it down to like simple numbers, you know, so really
Speaker 1: quick quick adding numbers. That makes sense, actually, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And by the way, because we talk about this
Speaker 2: is a big week because Andy left and they were
Speaker 2: calling him the Bobby Bones of this season, and apparently
Speaker 2: you and I just heard from one of our producers
Speaker 2: as we came on that yesterday he came out saying
Speaker 2: he returned his mirror ball to ABC because of all
Speaker 2: the hate he was getting from winning the show.
Speaker 1: Which is kind of a strange move, Like, agreed, why
Speaker 1: not just say okay, but that was you know, he
Speaker 1: won fair and square by the rules that they said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel the need to give that back, but.
Speaker 2: Again, he's not voting for himself A million times other
Speaker 2: people are voting for him. I agree with you one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. I wouldn't have given it.
Speaker 1: Back, but apparently, like you know, I get it, like
Speaker 1: it's but yeah, you want it fair and square, man.
Speaker 2: You know, I also don't get people going out of
Speaker 2: their way to give a former Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 2: champion hate for winning a show he doesn't vote for
Speaker 2: himself on Yeah, it seems.
Speaker 1: Well, but I guess he was promoting it a bunch
Speaker 1: on his own radio show or something like that.
Speaker 2: But isn't everybody doing that with all the tickets whatever,
Speaker 2: you go, whatever you got, that's like your platform promoting ourselves.
Speaker 2: So yes, but that was the news apparently.
Speaker 1: All right. Next up Alex and Val doing the Fox
Speaker 1: trot to sing it in the rain. I thought this
Speaker 1: was subdued and classy and freaking awesome.
Speaker 2: A thousand percent agree with.
Speaker 1: You, right, Like I love the old Hollywood sort of vibe.
Speaker 1: Dressed dude, just such a cool move man, like, because
Speaker 1: these two can do anything, like they've clearly done so
Speaker 1: many different styles and energies, and to do this was
Speaker 1: just perfect. It was like wow, and again I'm going
Speaker 1: you guys screwed yourselves with those Robert scores because.
Speaker 2: They had to give this tense like you can't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't compare once you had locked in tents for Robert,
Speaker 1: it was going to be so high across the board
Speaker 1: just to compare, because this was so much better, so much.
Speaker 2: So classy and just elegant, and they were gliding through it.
Speaker 2: This to me is like old school ballroom dance, you know,
Speaker 2: just watching that with the beautiful outfits. They both looked gorgeous.
Speaker 2: They were staring at each other with big smiles on
Speaker 2: their I could watch this all day.
Speaker 1: It was great, right, and again it wasn't like cutting
Speaker 1: edge in terms of like current culture. It was it
Speaker 1: was referential to old culture yea and like and really
Speaker 1: just investing in something that is dated intentionally to say
Speaker 1: like we're gonna we're gonna really go back in time
Speaker 1: and and and do something that wouldn't be considered maybe
Speaker 1: cool today, but make it cool again.
Speaker 2: I love that too. All this all this fusion food
Speaker 2: is amazing, but if you can just make a classic souflet, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's something about that that's amazing. Yeah. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: loved it. I think they look great together. Again, they
Speaker 2: could ease, they could win. Maybe it's maybe it's in
Speaker 2: any other year they would win because it does seem
Speaker 2: like they're just gonna give it to Robert. But there's
Speaker 2: three or four couples that could easily win this show
Speaker 2: or should have a chance at winning the show. And yeah,
Speaker 2: there are definitely two of them, because man, can they dance.
Speaker 2: And I would say just from watching next to your
Speaker 2: favorite dancer, Danielle. Next to Danielle, I think Val is
Speaker 2: probably the next best dancer on the floor.
Speaker 1: Yes, and an amazing choreographer. C Yeah, he kind of
Speaker 1: knows it too. Yeah, you get that vibe from him, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We didn't talk about he actually have.
Speaker 1: Had a very humble speech about being an immigrant.
Speaker 2: He loves it, he loves what he does. But the
Speaker 2: one thing we didn't talk about was the very opening
Speaker 2: move of Dylan and Daniella, where Dylan's got his leg
Speaker 2: up and she just comes in and pops under his
Speaker 2: leg that. Oh it was so like a dart. Yes,
Speaker 2: so cool. Yeah, just set the toe for everything. Yeah
Speaker 2: all right, Alex and Bal got tents across the board.
Speaker 1: Well, so yep, deservedly so next up Whitney and Mark
Speaker 1: and the Argentinian.
Speaker 2: Tago stakes again, right, are so happy perfect.
Speaker 1: It's just it's I mean, it was Danielle's breakthrough dance.
Speaker 2: I just feel like this is everybody's breakthrough dance. You
Speaker 2: do tago, Well, it's you're moving your legs and their
Speaker 2: legs are going up underneath other that's so cool.
Speaker 1: You get all those little flicks and weird kids, so
Speaker 1: you're just like what you just can't take.
Speaker 2: Your eyes off of it. And yet it's so like
Speaker 2: just expressive. Oh man, totally.
Speaker 1: So this was insane to me. And yes, like I
Speaker 1: think this was her best dance ever. Yeah. And they
Speaker 1: just they're they're so great man. I love both of them.
Speaker 1: I Yeah, this was incredible to watch. And it was
Speaker 1: at this point I was like, dude, if they don't
Speaker 1: give them tens, I'm gonna be pissed. Yeah, And there
Speaker 1: was a moment where I was like, are they not
Speaker 1: going to do it. Are they going to somebody going
Speaker 1: to give her a nine and no tends a gross.
Speaker 2: The board had to be had. You're right, they said
Speaker 2: they set the standard a little high at the beginning,
Speaker 2: and then you kind of had to go from there.
Speaker 1: Because I had to do it.
Speaker 2: That was It was really remark There were three or
Speaker 2: four dances tonight that were really remarkable. I still think
Speaker 2: Dylan and Daniella was dancing the night though, personally, So.
Speaker 1: This is going to be I mean, really, if we
Speaker 1: just take the tens, it's Robert, Dylan and Alex and Whitney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be the top four.
Speaker 1: And I think that's it's just inevitable at this point, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: at this point in the night, I was going, man,
Speaker 1: it could Andy could sort of eke out and stick around,
Speaker 1: in which case I was going to say, a Land's
Speaker 1: probably going home.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen that way, and so now I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well now it's just going to be dancing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to come down to.
Speaker 1: The people that got the top top scores this week,
Speaker 1: and I truly just waiting for that to happen.
Speaker 2: Andy was probably slightly disappointed, but I think he had
Speaker 2: such a fun time, got farther than he ever thought,
Speaker 2: and we probably walked away going like that was amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm good and I'm glad that I'm glad he stayed,
Speaker 2: and I'm also glad he's gone. Now. I think it
Speaker 2: was time and you can now get to the The
Speaker 2: cream is really rising to the top at this point,
Speaker 2: I mean, there's it's amazing, and.
Speaker 1: We went into flashbacks two seasons past.
Speaker 2: Wait before I'm sorry, Oh yeah, I apologize to our
Speaker 2: our faithful listeners because I was so upset with daniell
Speaker 2: exit last week that many people pointed out that I
Speaker 2: did not do Will's History of Dance. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to do an in memorium Daniel Fischle dancing to Will's
Speaker 2: History of Dance, which was Daniel's last dance was the
Speaker 2: contemporary dance and so for people out there, because as
Speaker 2: you know, writer, I have an encyclopedic knowledge of all
Speaker 2: things dance. We've established this at this point, does it
Speaker 2: It didn't.
Speaker 1: Matter with contemporary to have an encyclopedic knowledge.
Speaker 2: It matters an encyclopedic knowledge. It's an expressive and versatile
Speaker 2: dance genre that emerged from modern dance, combining elements of
Speaker 2: various styles ballet, jazz, and modern to create innovative and
Speaker 2: creative movements. I love how to describe a contemporary dance.
Speaker 2: They describe it as or I mean, I in my
Speaker 2: head with my knowledge, describe it as a modern dance.
Speaker 2: So best way to describe.
Speaker 1: Contemporary modern Yeah, kind of anything.
Speaker 2: Kind of redundant, but it's a slow dance that isn't quick.
Speaker 1: And then we went into flashbacks of seasons back and
Speaker 1: profiles of the judges, with a nod to Len Goodman,
Speaker 1: who I gather was one of the original judges and
Speaker 1: a legend who has now passed. Like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: I thought this was really cool. This gave me so
Speaker 1: much appreciation for all the judges. You know, I feel
Speaker 1: like we've you know, we've we've we've come, we've come
Speaker 1: at Carrie Anne a little hard we have, which sounds
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are ye, and uh, this
Speaker 1: gave me another more appreciation for how much she's brought
Speaker 1: to the show, all of them. I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a really interesting job. These people, you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're up against it. In a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, just seeing Derek when he was like
Speaker 1: fifteen or whatever, he.
Speaker 2: Looked like baby. It was unbelievable to see him out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and on top of his choreography for the opening number.
Speaker 1: I just my respect for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got to see if he'll come on
Speaker 2: to Podmeets World. I know he's we love to have him,
Speaker 2: And by that, I mean he's probably never heard of us.
Speaker 2: There has no idea that we're doing this, but I
Speaker 2: think both he having he and sister on because the
Speaker 2: perspective of both sides would be very interesting. Of hosting
Speaker 2: a live show like this every week, but also dancing.
Speaker 2: I mean we've she danced that opening number and is
Speaker 2: sitting there huffing and puffing trying to get through. Now
Speaker 2: oh wait, now I'm a host, so difficult for both
Speaker 2: of them. We did come at carry in kind of hard.
Speaker 2: I think rightfully so at the time, but that's also
Speaker 2: anytime you put yourself out there nowadays, if you say up,
Speaker 2: then everyone who likes down hates you. It's just the
Speaker 2: way the world works. She handled it with total class,
Speaker 2: like she did, and I think I think all of
Speaker 2: her scoring and all of the judges scoring except for
Speaker 2: Robert this week, and I could see why they wanted
Speaker 2: to give him high scores. I think was pretty spot on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Then we do this relay section, which
Speaker 1: I wasn't quite clear on what this was, and then
Speaker 1: again felt kind of rigged, you know, like because who
Speaker 1: they were partnered or who they were versus seemed like
Speaker 1: a big deal, you know, like that kind of determines
Speaker 1: like so the and then also the mirror ball passed
Speaker 1: mirror ball winners who they were dancing with, Like with Jordan,
Speaker 1: she got another other big guy, Apollo, who hadn't danced
Speaker 1: in thirteen years. Yeah, Whereas when it came for Alex
Speaker 1: and Robert the last set of relay, she was like
Speaker 1: last year's winners, both of them got the most recent winners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, that's a stacked deck. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's total.
Speaker 1: They were giving Robert and Alex a huge leg up
Speaker 1: on everybody else. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Kind of pissed me off. Man, I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2: I have not liked most of these side little sojourns
Speaker 2: that they're taking. It seems a little strang It seems
Speaker 2: like a way to stack the deck of riggan again
Speaker 2: to boost who you want and yeah, exactly, Whitney had
Speaker 2: community got two extra points. She won the dance off
Speaker 2: the week before it. They it's an easy way to
Speaker 2: kind of figure out next steps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was Jordan versus a lame Jordan one.
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of an obvious me too.
Speaker 1: When you compared the two dances as good as Elaine was,
Speaker 1: it was like, no, but it was cool to see
Speaker 1: how how well they worked with another partner. I did
Speaker 1: like that factor of this whole thing, you know that
Speaker 1: they you got to see like these people have to adjust,
Speaker 1: and during the pre dance packages, I was like, oh God,
Speaker 1: this is going to be a disaster, and it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Pretty much across the board, it was solid. People were
Speaker 1: agree and those now those people who admitted that they
Speaker 1: hadn't danced in years really brought it. And you were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could see why you won, and made.
Speaker 2: Me kind of wish I could retool all of Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars. Yeah, because if I could retool all
Speaker 2: of Dancing with the Stars, it would be two celebrities
Speaker 2: who have to learn how to dance together. The pro
Speaker 2: is teaching them how to dance. Every week, But the
Speaker 2: actual dances every week are two different celebrities, double the
Speaker 2: amount of celebrities that are there, first of all, and
Speaker 2: you're watching everybody kind of on equal footing. And so
Speaker 2: you've got you know, it's a celebrity of celebrity, and
Speaker 2: then you get your professional who trained you every week. Wow,
Speaker 2: So you can never have somebody standing there while a
Speaker 2: professional dances around you. It's always the two of you
Speaker 2: together learning.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that would just result in worst dances though,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, of.
Speaker 2: Course, But that's I mean because you don't get to
Speaker 2: see professionals dancing all over the place. But to me,
Speaker 2: that would be a really interesting Maybe do a season
Speaker 2: like that. Do one season where all the professionals do
Speaker 2: all the interstitial dances and they train you all week long,
Speaker 2: but on the floor it's just the two of you together.
Speaker 1: I like that all right. Then we had Andy versus Dylan.
Speaker 1: It seemed like a foregone conclusion that Dylan would win,
Speaker 1: which he did, of course, but Andy had this shirt moment,
Speaker 1: which didn't we make this very joke. I feel like
Speaker 1: we made this exact joke that we were like, will
Speaker 1: you'd rip your shirt over and you'd have one of
Speaker 1: those muscle shirts under it. We made that joke and
Speaker 1: then they did it, and his commitment to it. At
Speaker 1: this point I was like, you know what, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think Andy. I'm okay with Andy sticking around another
Speaker 1: week because it was commitment, good dancing actually yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't bad. Some of his best dancing. Yeah, and funny, entertaining,
Speaker 1: I mean, all the things that we wanted to be.
Speaker 1: And it reminded me of of what we talked about
Speaker 1: with you, is like, you would be best if you
Speaker 1: entered Dancing with the Stars thinking of it as a character,
Speaker 1: thinking of it as like a joke, as a as
Speaker 1: a as a comedy bit. You would end up committing
Speaker 1: more physically than if you felt the pressure to like
Speaker 1: actually be sexy or you know. And I felt like
Speaker 1: Andy came alive in the same vein when he was like,
Speaker 1: I know this joke is coming and this I'm gonna play,
Speaker 1: and yet he physically ended up committing more than he
Speaker 1: ever has.
Speaker 2: It was really cool. See, it was a good moment.
Speaker 2: It really was a good moment.
Speaker 1: I was also watching Rumor Willis and the rehearsals going.
Speaker 1: She won What's happening here? Is she any good?
Speaker 2: And then when she came out, she was amazing. Ye.
Speaker 2: Together they were so good.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, it's not just Daniella bringing up Dylan,
Speaker 1: you know, like he's really working well with another partner
Speaker 1: who's also amazing.
Speaker 2: Really incredibly well together. But that's what I mean, two
Speaker 2: celebrities together, it could work.
Speaker 1: Could be could really be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Dylan won this face off. Why these face
Speaker 1: offs become these face offs again? I just don't understand.
Speaker 1: And we ended with Alex and Robert, and this is
Speaker 1: where they got the like the most recent dancers. They
Speaker 1: got pros who are like fresh off of winning the
Speaker 1: Mirror Ball. Their dances were really good. I thought Alex's
Speaker 1: was insanely good.
Speaker 2: I thought it was better than Robert's. Yes, that was
Speaker 2: the only one I thought they got wrong. But that's
Speaker 2: the thing. They want Robert to win. Yes, And I'm
Speaker 2: about the fact that he kicks her in the face.
Speaker 2: Did you see that in the back of I mean
Speaker 2: he literally kicks her.
Speaker 1: In with that final move where he's like slamming her
Speaker 1: to the ground, almost flipping her over and jumping back up.
Speaker 1: I was like, what, this is crazy? And you know,
Speaker 1: you see it rehearsals and you see how crazy it is,
Speaker 1: and then they nailed it. Man, they really got the think.
Speaker 2: They got the wrong one here. I also think, and
Speaker 2: I think you said this before. You may have changed
Speaker 2: your tune. I don't know, but I was the entire
Speaker 2: night of watching. I think the jive is my least
Speaker 2: favorite dance. It's just it's not it's I prefer the
Speaker 2: holding onto each other, classical kind of dance with some
Speaker 2: moves in between, the kind of jive of the quick
Speaker 2: step in them side by side. It's not my f
Speaker 2: And so that threw me a bit because it just
Speaker 2: isn't my favorite dance. But I thought this was the
Speaker 2: only one that they got wrong. I thought that Alex
Speaker 2: deserved to win this round.
Speaker 1: Frankly, yep, yep. I think most people felt that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, and that was, uh, that was it for
Speaker 1: the dancing. Then we just had the uh, the results.
Speaker 1: I really was a shocked.
Speaker 2: I was shocked. Absolutely. I thought I thought the fandi's
Speaker 2: are coming out and it was becoming a thing, and
Speaker 2: they just were going to keep him on. I didn't
Speaker 2: think he was gonna win. I didn't think anybody was
Speaker 2: gonna beat Robert, but I thought he was going to
Speaker 2: be make it to the finals. Wow, So the idea
Speaker 2: I was. I was convinced after starting the show and
Speaker 2: the low scores that Elaine that this was going to
Speaker 2: be Elaine's last week of dancing.
Speaker 1: Well it will be next week, yeah, probably, that's what
Speaker 1: we're looking at. Or when you have people with all ten, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Jordan and Lane dropping off, which is
Speaker 1: too bad because they both have great journeys. They do
Speaker 1: incredibly well. And they said it in this episode, and
Speaker 1: I've heard it a lot that this season is insane, yeah, stacked, snacky, ye,
Speaker 1: And I think in any other season Jordan and Lane
Speaker 1: would have a genuine shot from what I gather at winning.
Speaker 2: But as with Danielle, that's what daniel we're talking about kill.
Speaker 1: I know you've got When you have Robert and Alex
Speaker 1: and Whitney and now even Dylan, you're just talking about
Speaker 1: people that are taking it to this next level.
Speaker 2: But that's why I hope somebody like Dylan or Robert wins,
Speaker 2: simply because these were two guys. And again, you're probably
Speaker 2: right that Robert has been training to be on Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars his entire life because he knew we
Speaker 2: wanted to be here and it's his family legacy kind
Speaker 2: of thing. But somebody like Dylan from where he was
Speaker 2: to where he is now, to me, represents the show exactly,
Speaker 2: perfectly represents the show. Whereas Hey Whitney, the girl who
Speaker 2: grew up dancing, who went to school for dancing, whose
Speaker 2: dancer whole life and is now professional TikTok dancer wins
Speaker 2: a dancing competition, that's not a headline to me at all.
Speaker 2: Dylan Ephron comes out and wins. That's pretty impressive. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're right that dance. Just the move. It's a
Speaker 2: poster of him holding her in the plank position with
Speaker 2: the light behind them. I mean that is going to
Speaker 2: be on some kid's wall who wants to grow up
Speaker 2: and be a dancer. That's like, that's Michael Jordan dunking
Speaker 2: on you in the dance competition. I mean it was.
Speaker 2: That was insane. All right.
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