WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: DWTS 3409

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to pod meets Twirled, the Dancing with the Stars

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<v Speaker 1>recap hosted by two guys who can't dance, don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to dance, and have now seen nine episodes of Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars. But since our best friend Danielle joined

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<v Speaker 1>the cast for thirty four, we're going all in. We

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<v Speaker 1>are Wilfred Ell and Ryder Strong aka the two dudes

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<v Speaker 1>standing next to Topanga aka daniel Fishal's backup aka the

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<v Speaker 1>dan Yettes.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Will, Hello Rider.

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<v Speaker 1>How was our first episode with no Danielle?

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<v Speaker 2>It was fine, you know, it's obviously it's it's lost

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of its allure.

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<v Speaker 1>For me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still in on trying to see who's going to win,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can detach myself from it more. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the same anxiety watching the show. I'm not rooting

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<v Speaker 2>for it as much as I mean, our friend isn't

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<v Speaker 2>on it anymore, so it's a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little interesting journey. I was not looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to this. I was really ready. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, are we still doing this? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I care about the show?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you started.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was my favorite episode of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Really well, yeah, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, it gave perspective on the rest on

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the show, which was so important for

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<v Speaker 1>me because I've seen nothing and getting a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>how deep this and how long this show goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like wow, and I really came to appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved the dances. I loved like getting glimpses of

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<v Speaker 1>the past, past dances and past competitors. I really enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like an education in the history of Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars and I don't know, like yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it gave me a sense of like continuity. It gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot of respect for all the figures of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, all the judges, like I just I just

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<v Speaker 1>came to I don't know, you know, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a little recap for me. And then I really thought

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<v Speaker 1>the dancing was incredible this week.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I liked it. I find and again I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why they're doing this, especially for the twentieth anniversary,

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<v Speaker 2>but they they really waded into the cheese factor this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was heavy on the cheese this week

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<v Speaker 2>of just you know, the past and the people we've lost,

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<v Speaker 2>and I get it. I mean I understand it, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's a kind of like a self importance to it?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense? Where it's like, look what we've

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<v Speaker 2>done in the history of Dancing with the Stars, And

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, and I know that it's been hugely important.

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<v Speaker 2>And I loved seeing like young Derek Huff when he

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<v Speaker 2>started dancing, and then that was incredible, incredible how a

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<v Speaker 2>baby looked like and then seeing them to get into

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<v Speaker 2>to lens seat all that, Like those journeys were really

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<v Speaker 2>really cool to watch, but it was. But I find

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<v Speaker 2>these same things with a lot of award shows too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's very melodramatic a lot of times for

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<v Speaker 2>really not much reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But see, I like that. I guess I like the

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<v Speaker 1>cheese because here's the thing. None of this matters, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the Oscars. None of this matters. Actually, what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about is a seemingly meaningless thing art, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it doesn't dance. It is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>change the world in so many ways. So I find

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<v Speaker 1>it really nice when show business leans into its importance

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<v Speaker 1>and says like, hey, actually this is big, a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>These are human beings going through this, it matters. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that because I feel that often and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Hollywood is superficial and gets this rep for being just.

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<v Speaker 1>But it takes so much work to do these things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so much energy. It does take people dedicating their

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<v Speaker 1>lives to being a host on some random TV show

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<v Speaker 1>that we're all watching that's getting huge ratings. So I

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<v Speaker 1>tend to go the opposite. I'm like, because it's so meaningless.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a need to say, hey, actually, you've been on

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<v Speaker 1>this journey for a long time. If you're watching this

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<v Speaker 1>right now, there's a reason you care about this because

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<v Speaker 1>people have dedicated their lives and their energies towards it

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<v Speaker 1>and are still doing that. Let's appreciate that for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was every week, I agree, But like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one a year, when the Oscars come around, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, man, let's let's highlight this the effort.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, because if we don't know, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>forget the Oscars. You're not highlighting the effort. You're highlighting

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are there. You're highlighting who what dresses

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<v Speaker 2>you're wearing, and the four hours on the red carpet.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care about self important, but that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about the red cart that you don't. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>part of the of the night. That's part of the

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<v Speaker 2>glitter and the glamour that pagenger of and the pageantry.

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<v Speaker 2>And to me, I've never liked that. I've never been

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<v Speaker 2>into the pageantry of anything. To me, contententry for pageantry's

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<v Speaker 2>sake is just like, let's see how big a thing

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<v Speaker 2>we can produce and make a thing that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>important seem like it's really important, Like oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>who had the best supporting actor this year in a

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<v Speaker 2>film they only made twenty million dollars to do? And

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<v Speaker 2>to me, I'm like, like, I just don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's the other side of that coin,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, the sound mixer who has dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>their entire life has the chance to win an award

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<v Speaker 1>and get up on stage with their peers and say

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<v Speaker 1>what I do is important.

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<v Speaker 2>So absolutely a lot of that is not that same

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<v Speaker 2>night as the actors and everything. It's a night before

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't even televised.

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<v Speaker 1>Well sure, but you know, I just think that in general,

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<v Speaker 1>like what the I mean? I agree, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about like the Red Car. I never watch any

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff, like who are you wearing? But the

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<v Speaker 1>actual the idea that the industry takes a moment to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for me, the nominees are always the most important

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<v Speaker 1>part because who gets nominated tends to actually be because

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<v Speaker 1>they're nominated from within their own discipline, right, So like, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, actors nominate the actors. Sound mixers nominate the

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<v Speaker 1>sound mix like those professionals. It's a chance to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>each other. And I tend to find that the nominees

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<v Speaker 1>usually I agree with. I'm usually like, those were the

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<v Speaker 1>best of this year in film, and so I I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's a it's an opportunity to recognize, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hardworking people.

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<v Speaker 2>No again, I have no problem recognizing hardworking people at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's amazing. I think recognizing the art is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think needless pageantry. It's like Miss Universe. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure all those women have worked very hard to do

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<v Speaker 2>that pageantry. I don't care. It's to me. I just

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<v Speaker 2>the the kind of the glitter and glamour of things

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<v Speaker 2>for the sake of glitter and glamour. Have just and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a personal thing. Have never done it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it to be a little bit cheesy. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the idea that they're doing, like, hey, here's the

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<v Speaker 2>dancers that were part of the show that we've lost.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's important stuff in saying that, but it just yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in this case, it's not for me. Glitz and

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<v Speaker 1>glamour is the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part glitz and glamor. I thought, okay, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into the opening montage. Was I thought, fantastic, great, a

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<v Speaker 1>great way to get a glimpse of seasons as. And

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<v Speaker 1>then this opening dance number incredible, incredible, the Pros dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like wow. And then to find out

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<v Speaker 1>that Derek did the choreography. I was like, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why he's here.

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<v Speaker 2>I apparently won for Emmys just for choreography.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, like that was one of the greatest like

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<v Speaker 1>dance numbers, the best dance number I've seen the Pros

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<v Speaker 1>do this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I was incredible. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they announced that he had done it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they gave him recognition after the fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, that makes sense why he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the judge and see he is so good. He is

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<v Speaker 1>he deserves so much credit because that choreography was astounding.

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<v Speaker 2>And starting with the original dancers. Was was a great

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<v Speaker 2>way to start because again, we don't know any of

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<v Speaker 2>these people. We know, we were going in totally cold.

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<v Speaker 2>So seeing all that, yes, no, I loved all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I just some of it tonight got it just a

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<v Speaker 2>little heavy for me for for what it is. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, first dance up Laine and Allen doing a salsa.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of green, lots of green, lime, green everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>This had such a nineties vibe to it. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>Eve with the squiggles and his shirt and like all

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<v Speaker 1>of Yeah. I thought this was a really good move

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<v Speaker 1>stylistically for her. I felt like, you know, we've because

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<v Speaker 1>like the last couple dance, I mean, obviously she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>dance two weeks ago. Last week was very conservative. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt a little boring. This was really fun and showed

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<v Speaker 1>that she can really dance. I was like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>you are you know. Of course, as the night went on,

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<v Speaker 1>got blown out of the water by Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was okay. I liked that it was

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<v Speaker 2>high energy to start, but yeah, I thought the dance

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<v Speaker 2>was just okay. Frankly, really, yeah, I did I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I thought that the outfits for a little

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<v Speaker 2>much for me. Yeah, and again I love the high

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<v Speaker 2>and it might also be frankly, they they might have

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<v Speaker 2>been kind of screwed a little bit by coming right

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<v Speaker 2>off of that giant dance number, Yes, where we just

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<v Speaker 2>saw these the best, arguably the best dances in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>doing incredibly choreographed thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So then this dance, which again I thought was okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>but something was interesting because they were doing homages to

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<v Speaker 1>previous dances, right. What that meant is that stylistically, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the dances felt out of touch or like

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<v Speaker 1>you could you were watching them through the lens of

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<v Speaker 1>like several years or maybe ten years. And I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of appreciated that because obviously, like trends change, costumes changed,

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<v Speaker 1>life and styles change, and like if you're trying, like

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<v Speaker 1>so much of this show has been trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the cutting edge of culture, like trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>cool and sexy or classy in a way that is

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<v Speaker 1>interpreted through the lens of now. Whereas because they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing homages to ten years ago, twenty years ago, within

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<v Speaker 1>the last twenty it ended up kind of having like

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of permission to be a little dated in

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<v Speaker 1>a fun way. So like this one I was watching.

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<v Speaker 1>If this had just been presented as like a contemporary, current,

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<v Speaker 1>cool dance, I was like, eh. But because it was

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<v Speaker 1>through the lens of word paying homage to a dance

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<v Speaker 1>from years years ago, and then the whole set in

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<v Speaker 1>the style felt very dated to me or like hokey

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<v Speaker 1>in a way, it was fun. It was like, oh cool,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing it through, We're in, We're in. We're investing

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<v Speaker 1>in something that is a little cheesy, but we're just

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<v Speaker 1>going to go for it because it's, you know, an homage.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that approach the whole night. It made everything

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<v Speaker 1>a little easier to swallow from me.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was I thought there's an interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>when we talked to Sharon or last week, it was

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<v Speaker 2>she talked about how the dances are changing all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the same time they still have this to

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<v Speaker 2>have some kind of tether to the original dance. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's something interesting about that balance of we want to

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<v Speaker 2>make it look modern, but we still know that it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be based on something from the eighteen hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>that that shouldn't change, right. So I dig that and

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<v Speaker 2>I get that I also think, and this is just

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<v Speaker 2>my personal opinion, I think personally, Danielle did better several

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<v Speaker 2>weeks than Elaine has, and so the fact that she's

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<v Speaker 2>still there and Danielle's gone, I think I'm holding that

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<v Speaker 2>personally against the Lane, which again is a stupid thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do. It's not a Lane's fault that people have

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<v Speaker 2>been voting for her, but I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things where I'm kind of like, I still think

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle was a better dancer than her, So maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking for things wrong with it, But I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>had this exact same dance been done last week or

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<v Speaker 2>the week before, it would have been four eights.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got nines across the board. I was definitely like, really,

0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe cannbe a little but I think we're at the

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<v Speaker 1>stage in the competition where es scores are just through

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<v Speaker 1>the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>I also liked how I did like how they came

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<v Speaker 2>in high energy and they started high energy you needed

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<v Speaker 2>to and so it was a good way to start

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<v Speaker 2>the night, I will say that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we went on to Robert and Whitney. In

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<v Speaker 1>their pre show package, he talked about going to some

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<v Speaker 1>event where Prince William was going to be there, so

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<v Speaker 1>then he got a call from Prince William.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you do like you do to him yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they went into their dance, which was

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<v Speaker 1>an homage to his sister's dance and was very emotional

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of its background and its meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>I found the dance a look boring. I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>you one hundred percent, it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously Robert can dance is great. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, you know, and then you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>he broke down at the end, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, it's a little much.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a terrible that. It's a terrible thing to say

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<v Speaker 2>because it's obviously about his family, which is hugely important

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<v Speaker 2>to him. But this dance ended exactly the way the

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<v Speaker 2>dedication I ended, except he was holding his sister's hand

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<v Speaker 2>instead of his mother's hand. Right, He's obviously dancing with

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<v Speaker 2>the stars Royalty. His father hugely important in his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's trying to take anything away from that. He seemed

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<v Speaker 2>his dad seemed like an amazing guy. Everybody loved him

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<v Speaker 2>huge in his country. But it doesn't it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>that to me. It's like at the end where he

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<v Speaker 2>was voted through. He gets this expression on his face

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<v Speaker 2>and like he jumps like he can't belie leave it

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<v Speaker 2>happened when he knows he's going to be voted through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I mean, my my, my hot take,

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<v Speaker 1>which maybe isn't that hot, is that they really want

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<v Speaker 1>Robert to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no, everybody wants I think everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean the judges, the producer, the show wants

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<v Speaker 1>Robert to win because this was a straight up nine dance.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, this was not a ten, and they gave

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<v Speaker 1>it tens across the board and then later when they

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<v Speaker 1>do their relay thing, he did not deserve to win

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<v Speaker 1>that I feel no, I feel like so like this

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<v Speaker 1>was my first indication. I was like, okay, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I get your this is there's a great story behind

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<v Speaker 1>this dance. But let's just look at that dance and

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<v Speaker 1>when they gave it tens and the comments that they

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<v Speaker 1>made like he was just the greatest, obviously the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>dancer that has ever graced us with his presence. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, guys, he's already been great.

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<v Speaker 2>He is great.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not holding him to the same standard of like

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<v Speaker 1>you could do a little bit more, you could push yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think they're going to give him a note?

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<v Speaker 2>You think they're ever going to go They didn't give

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<v Speaker 2>him a note. I have another hot take to add

0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to that, since we're talking about this. I also think

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<v Speaker 2>because it's ABC and Hulu, they really want to keep

0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Whitney around too, because Whitney is on their biggest thing

0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.160
<v Speaker 2>right now, which is The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the biggest thing in the network. She got

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<v Speaker 2>immunity this week from having to dance and got extra

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<v Speaker 2>points the week before that she.

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<v Speaker 1>Was but he danced this week was insane. It was

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<v Speaker 1>len dancing tonight though, Oh my god, I mean, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go yeah, I like, but I feel like when they

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<v Speaker 1>gave this all tens, I was like, oh wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that they kind of screwed themselves because

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<v Speaker 1>by giving this tense, they had to give tens across

0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the board because the other dances were genuinely better than

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<v Speaker 1>this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and Mormon Wives the new season apparently premiered this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, I thought Whitney's dance was incredible. It was great,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think Robert and Whitney here were like good

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<v Speaker 1>but not tens and so, but I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>producers of the show, the judges of the show love

0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.600
<v Speaker 1>him so much. They want him to win. They gave

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<v Speaker 1>him tens and then because of that, I had to

0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.440
<v Speaker 1>stick with tens. There's so many tens because it was like, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Bashing on Robert. He seems like the most likable guy

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. He's obviously working his butt off. He's

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<v Speaker 2>very good at what he does. Ye but they clearly want.

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<v Speaker 1>To predestined things he's gonna win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Slater doing a quick step. Well, here we are, Andy

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<v Speaker 1>still in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it just.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of is what it is with an I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about their relay dance later, which I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was much better than this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again because it's through the.

0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Lens of this sort of like self conscious show busy

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<v Speaker 1>thing putting on the ritz.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was fun. It was fun. All of

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<v Speaker 2>his dances are fun. They're just not pticularly good dances.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's I mean, she is working her ass off,

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<v Speaker 2>his partner, he's working his butt off. Nobody nobody is

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<v Speaker 2>saying he's not. Actually, I would actually say this.

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<v Speaker 1>Might have been one of his best dances. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>disagree in terms of like his feet doing the things

0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.919
<v Speaker 1>that they needed to do. I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't because when he first walked down the steps, I

0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.280
<v Speaker 1>was like, he can't even walk down the stairs. He

0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.040
<v Speaker 1>was walking down the stairs sideways, and you could tell

0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.880
<v Speaker 1>that He's like yes, and so I was like, Oh,

0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.760
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a disaster, and then it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn good, and I read looked great. I was like, cool, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe he would get more eights than you did,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, eight seven seven seven. My wife was watching

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, you know, we could have connected

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<v Speaker 1>with her more like that. He was kind of doing

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<v Speaker 1>his own thing and not necessarily connecting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's probably trying to remember the dance and

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<v Speaker 2>counting the steps in his head as she's saying things

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<v Speaker 2>like six seven eight. I mean, I think he's got

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred things going on. It's not effortless right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, I think that's one of the reasons people

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<v Speaker 2>kept voting for him, is because a they saw there

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<v Speaker 2>was some progress, and there clearly has been. You go

0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.840
<v Speaker 2>and watch this and you watch his first dance, there

0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.479
<v Speaker 2>has clearly been progress. But it's also the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you know he's working his butt off apparently he's a

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok machine where they're all just putting out these tiktoks

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, and so he's playing the game. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't fault him for it. It's not again,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't blame any of the dancers. The dancers aren't

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<v Speaker 2>voting for themselves, right, So, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There was this moment later in the show where Andy

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<v Speaker 1>talked about what it was like being on the show

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<v Speaker 1>and how it was like all dancing and all TikTok videos,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he gave him a credit for pushing

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<v Speaker 1>him in both arenas, and I had this like weird realization.

0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Oh, this show is now like fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of it is the social media. Yeah, at least

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<v Speaker 1>and like controlling that narrative and promoting yourself there, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not part of what like I'm watching right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>i'm watching this season. I'm looking at just what's on

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<v Speaker 1>the screen and what's being aired as part of this show.

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's not even really that's half the show. The

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<v Speaker 1>other half of the show is what these people are

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<v Speaker 1>doing in social media and how they're forging their narratives

0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and creating those stories. And like Andy has obviously been

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<v Speaker 1>doing really well at that and apparently Emma is really

0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.520
<v Speaker 1>good at coaching him in that arena as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought that was super interesting that we're just

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<v Speaker 1>at this point where a reality show like this is

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<v Speaker 1>not just the show, no barely any at all anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what's going on every week on their social media

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<v Speaker 1>pages and their TikTok in particular, And I was just like, Wow,

0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.640
<v Speaker 1>this is a it's a weird it's a whole new

0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>media jungle out there. Seven completely a part of.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told you, I don't have an Instagram, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have a Finsta account that I check occasionally, and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at one Dancing with the Stars thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>now when I look at it, it's nine hundred people

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Dancing with the Stars, and it's I heard

0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.600
<v Speaker 2>this rumor, I heard that rumor? Or did you hear

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<v Speaker 2>about this? And then it's the tiktoks that Andy does

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<v Speaker 2>or the tiktoks that Danielle did. It's part of the job.

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<v Speaker 2>It is twenty four to seven. Wow, yeah, crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, they got eight seven seven seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have seen another eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too. I guess doesn't really matter in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>but at this point, I was like, Wow, is Andy

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stick around another week?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I thought he was, I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>After the relay, I was like, Oh, the crowd's going

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<v Speaker 1>to love this, I thought. And we went into an

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<v Speaker 1>inn memoriam Oscar style, a dance going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>foreground with some pros while the screen was showing people

0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.320
<v Speaker 1>who had died. I was very relieved to realize that

0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.080
<v Speaker 1>not everyone they were listening had died this year. That

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<v Speaker 1>took me a moment because at the Oscars it's who

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<v Speaker 1>died that year, and I was like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>Summers was this year and it was the same, and

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.240
<v Speaker 1>it was like, no, it's just people who have that

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.800
<v Speaker 1>they've lost in the twenty year history of this show

0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 1>made a lot more sense. I was like, oh my god,

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.520
<v Speaker 1>what a banner year for deaths. No, not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was really sweet.

0:20:58.880 --> 0:20:59.639
<v Speaker 2>It was sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>After the in memoriam, Dylan and Daniella bringing out the

0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Argentine Tango, my favorite dance, which made a couple appearances tonight.

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:15.920
<v Speaker 1>The best yep passo doble kind of took over last

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<v Speaker 1>week and I was like, oh that one's good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>The Argentine Tango back on top. Just kills.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are so smart to see you mouth everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>you go. Now, I love it so much. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>This was insane.

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<v Speaker 2>This was dance of the night for me. They both

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<v Speaker 2>just crushed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, her swimming move at the beginning where

0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 1>he's holding her up, the strength that it takes for

0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:45.840
<v Speaker 1>him to hold her, and the strength in her body

0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to say, rigid plank like that, why is kicking your

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 1>legs and make it believable and seamless and just crazy.

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this was just so fun to watch.

0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.159
<v Speaker 1>It was expressive, It was sexy. The connection is just

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:04.199
<v Speaker 1>like brilliant, and like his ability to like be the

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.879
<v Speaker 1>sort of frame that she's throwing herself around. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course I still she's the best dancer. I've never she's

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<v Speaker 1>the best.

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<v Speaker 2>This week she's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And like he is rising to like be her

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:20.920
<v Speaker 1>partner and god like I and and this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like they went, oh, we shouldn't have given

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 1>tens to rush.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because this blew that out of the water.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way if you give this tens that those

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 1>were eights like that, This is you know, this deserves eleven.

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Or twenty different level. He also to me, Dylan looked

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<v Speaker 2>like and I turned to Sue halfway through, I was like,

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:40.879
<v Speaker 2>he looks like a thirties movie star. Yes, like he

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.439
<v Speaker 2>looked like Errol Flynn up there kind of dancing. It

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<v Speaker 2>was really amazing. I mean, they're both perfectly and I

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 2>know this isn't right because she's a professional, but both

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 2>perfectly castes as these two people going on this journey together.

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like you couldn't have put two people together. He

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 2>no one else could have done for him what she

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.880
<v Speaker 2>has done for him. Dance once and he has stepped

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<v Speaker 2>up every and this was the first time. I was like, oh,

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.400
<v Speaker 2>they both looked like pros. They fully both looked like pros. Tonight, Yeah,

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 2>dance of the night for me. He crushed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was incredible. So yeah, ten ten, ten ten,

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<v Speaker 1>well deserved. Hell yah, man, I hope these guys make

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<v Speaker 1>it to the finale.

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 2>It's but do you have competition anybody can beat Robert? No?

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't either. I think it's already been progestined.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean I think that the show itself is

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>really making it hard for anybody to beat Robert, which

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm so curious what the what the audience

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>votes are, because I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of backlash to that, because it

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.479
<v Speaker 1>starts to feel like, oh, well, he's the obvious, and

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>then people will stop voting for him just because they

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 1>assume that he's getting all the votes, and that might

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, that might be somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. And I was back east. Both Susan and

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I were back east last week, and she was in Massachusetts.

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I was in Connecticut, where both of their families, and

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 2>then we met up in the middle and wherever we went,

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about Dancing with the Stars, and just

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 2>for the heck of it, I would start talking about

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Dancing with the Stars with the waiters or the weight

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 2>staff or somebody who worked at a place wherever we were.

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I think of maybe the five people, six people I

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 2>talked to, four of them watched the show regularly. All

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 2>of them were voting for Robert. Wow. Every single girls, boys,

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>different ages, all of them are like, oh my gosh,

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I can't I vote for Robert. Every week, every single

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 2>person was voting for Robert Wow.

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's crazy crazy, then he probably will win.

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy, all right.

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Next up, we had Jordan and Ezra doing the Cha cha.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel like she is in a tough

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>position because she is doing so well, she is committing

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>so hard, but I just don't feel like she's getting

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 1>the support for the same you know, in the same way.

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>But I thought, you know, their whole goal they talk

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 1>about in the pre show was to try and be

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>sexy and passionate in a way that she hasn't been

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>able to showcase.

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 2>And I thought she nailed it. I thought so too, frankly.

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:04.679
<v Speaker 2>And it was cool. It was a cool dance.

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And I really appreciated Derek's feedback because what he was

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>saying was like, we know you can do the athleticism,

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>We know you can do the big moves, but what

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 1>your what your journey and your growth has been is

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>in texture and the way that you're learning to express

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.239
<v Speaker 1>things with your body. And I felt that and it

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>was exactly what I was. I hadn't I couldn't put

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it into words, and he put it into words. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad he gave her a ten because I

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>thought that if we're going to reward people for their

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>personal journeys, if we're going to be giving Andy an

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>eight in a situation where he's clearly never going to

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>be more than a six or seven. Then somebody like

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Jordan who is athletically move wise doing tens, but also

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>growing emotionally and expressively in ways that is not super

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 1>easy for her, comfortable for her or immediate, we should

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 1>reward that too. This is this is her journey and

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>so and the point.

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<v Speaker 2>You were making before, were you and I not fully disagree.

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I kind of agree about the pageantry a little bit,

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 2>but you know me with the kind of stuff. But

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 2>this was one of those times too, where you saw

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 2>how important Dancing with the Stars was to her because

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 2>in her preshow package she's talking about like as a kid,

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>all she wanted to do was learn every Dancing with

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the Stars dance. Here's a girl who from the time

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>or a woman now, but when she was a girl

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 2>was probably already a top athlete at seven eight years old,

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>but she wanted to come home and do the dances

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>with Dancing with the Stars. So I get the importance

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>of the show. I really do. It's just for me,

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 2>it's a little much, but I can see how for

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 2>someone like her it's the equivalent literally of I played

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 2>little league. I'm always saying, oh, I mean my backyard

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>holding a bat going it's bottom of the ninth, there's

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>two outs. It's on me. This is her world series.

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 2>She's been doing this since she was a little kid,

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 2>and now you're on the biggest stage on Dancing with

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the Stars. You've made it and you're trying to get

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 2>as far as you can't. I totally get that, and

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 2>I get the journey, and I get the importance. I

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>just it's a little much for me, but I get

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>it all right.

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>They got nine, ten, nine and nine, which.

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 3>I guess it was.

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 2>I could have seen two tens and two.

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say another ten felt deserved in this case.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I could have seen I could have seen Bruno giving

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>her how interesting. I was glad that they highlighted how

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 1>they have to mark their scores before they speak the judges.

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really because I wasn't quite clear

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>on that.

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh remember did you hear early ones where they're like,

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 2>remember we were at the show, the first show, and

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>they're like, lock it in, lock it in. I the

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 2>one person.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Hadn't locked it in, I think, or Bruno hadn't locked it. Yes,

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I but it was really cool to because I started

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to think, like, aren't they influencing each other in their comments?

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's really nice to know that's not the case,

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that they're actually defending their scores or explaining their scores

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>before those scores are revealed. Actually, that's what the judging

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>is an opportunity to or an opportunity for. And it

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>was also I loved hearing we'll get into later when

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>they do the flashbacks and they were talking about the

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>judges in their role. I loved hearing how Derek still

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.360
<v Speaker 1>thinks of it as a teaching opportunity, right. He was like,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you go from coaching somebody all season and having hours

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>during their dance to only having.

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Thirty seconds to give feedback and teach them.

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's so cool that he's looking at

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>this as a teaching opportunity and a and he's he's

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>so good. Man. Well that's why my respect for derekof

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>too just started to take him for granted. You know,

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I've always appreciated his comments, but I didn't know the history.

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't seen the history, lived the history, and man,

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>tonight really like.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 2>To talk to him about his journey. But this is

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned the scoring, so this is kind of an

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>interesting time to talk about this. So Sasha Farber, who

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>was one of the original maybe not one of the ogs,

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 2>but for years was one of the professional dancers. He

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 2>did a live reddit last week where he kind of

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>gets into the scoring system because we keep going back

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>back and forth on what the hell the scoring is.

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to read a little bit of what

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>was said and see if we can try to decipher

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 2>any of it, because a lot of it is very confusing.

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>So it said after Bobby Bones, who was we talked

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>with Sharna that was her partner who they won the

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>whole thing and maybe shouldn't have. They talked about how

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that kind of changed the ranking system. So if there

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>are five contestants, you get one to five points based

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 2>on where you're placed on the judge's score, and then

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>one to five based on where you sit ranking based

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>on ranking with the votes, and then they combine the

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 2>two so it's not a percentage system. So then somebody

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>else explained it how this is how the scoring system

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>in the German version works, and they think that this

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 2>is the same, but they show it on a leaderboard.

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>For example, five couples are left in the show. Couple

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>one has thirty thirty jury points, or the highest score

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 2>of five points they would get ranking Couple two is

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight points, so they get four points, and so

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 2>on and so on. So where you rank on the

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 2>leader board, you either get a five, four, three, two one,

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>and then they do the same thing for percentage of

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>votes that people call in, so you're five fourths. So

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 2>if you get the highest judge of scores, you get

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 2>a five, and then you get the highest calling scores,

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 2>you get a five. So your ten gets you through

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 2>to the next week. Is I believe how they do

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>it all. It sounds it's confusing as hell, but I

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>believe that's what they're doing.

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>No, that actually it's it's a way to really boil

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>it down to like simple numbers, you know, so really

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>quick quick adding numbers. That makes sense, actually, okay.

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And by the way, because we talk about this

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 2>is a big week because Andy left and they were

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>calling him the Bobby Bones of this season, and apparently

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 2>you and I just heard from one of our producers

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>as we came on that yesterday he came out saying

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 2>he returned his mirror ball to ABC because of all

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the hate he was getting from winning the show.

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Which is kind of a strange move, Like, agreed, why

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>not just say okay, but that was you know, he

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>won fair and square by the rules that they said. Yeah,

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't feel the need to give that back, but.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Again, he's not voting for himself A million times other

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 2>people are voting for him. I agree with you one

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent. I wouldn't have given it.

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Back, but apparently, like you know, I get it, like

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it's but yeah, you want it fair and square, man.

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, I also don't get people going out of

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>their way to give a former Dancing with the Stars

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 2>champion hate for winning a show he doesn't vote for

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 2>himself on Yeah, it seems.

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, but I guess he was promoting it a bunch

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>on his own radio show or something like that.

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>But isn't everybody doing that with all the tickets whatever,

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you go, whatever you got, that's like your platform promoting ourselves.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 2>So yes, but that was the news apparently.

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>All right. Next up Alex and Val doing the Fox

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>trot to sing it in the rain. I thought this

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>was subdued and classy and freaking awesome.

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 2>A thousand percent agree with.

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>You, right, Like I love the old Hollywood sort of vibe.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Dressed dude, just such a cool move man, like, because

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>these two can do anything, like they've clearly done so

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>many different styles and energies, and to do this was

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>just perfect. It was like wow, and again I'm going

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys screwed yourselves with those Robert scores because.

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>They had to give this tense like you can't.

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't compare once you had locked in tents for Robert,

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>it was going to be so high across the board

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>just to compare, because this was so much better, so much.

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 2>So classy and just elegant, and they were gliding through it.

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>This to me is like old school ballroom dance, you know,

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 2>just watching that with the beautiful outfits. They both looked gorgeous.

0:32:58.040 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>They were staring at each other with big smiles on

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>their I could watch this all day.

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>It was great, right, and again it wasn't like cutting

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>edge in terms of like current culture. It was it

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>was referential to old culture yea and like and really

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>just investing in something that is dated intentionally to say

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna we're gonna really go back in time

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>and and and do something that wouldn't be considered maybe

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>cool today, but make it cool again.

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I love that too. All this all this fusion food

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 2>is amazing, but if you can just make a classic souflet, Yeah,

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.719
<v Speaker 2>there's something about that that's amazing. Yeah. So yeah, I

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 2>loved it. I think they look great together. Again, they

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>could ease, they could win. Maybe it's maybe it's in

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 2>any other year they would win because it does seem

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>like they're just gonna give it to Robert. But there's

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>three or four couples that could easily win this show

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 2>or should have a chance at winning the show. And yeah,

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 2>there are definitely two of them, because man, can they dance.

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 2>And I would say just from watching next to your

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>favorite dancer, Danielle. Next to Danielle, I think Val is

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>probably the next best dancer on the floor.

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and an amazing choreographer. C Yeah, he kind of

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>knows it too. Yeah, you get that vibe from him, right.

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We didn't talk about he actually have.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Had a very humble speech about being an immigrant.

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 2>He loves it, he loves what he does. But the

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>one thing we didn't talk about was the very opening

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 2>move of Dylan and Daniella, where Dylan's got his leg

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>up and she just comes in and pops under his

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.879
<v Speaker 2>leg that. Oh it was so like a dart. Yes,

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>so cool. Yeah, just set the toe for everything. Yeah

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.399
<v Speaker 2>all right, Alex and Bal got tents across the board.

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, so yep, deservedly so next up Whitney and Mark

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and the Argentinian.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Tago stakes again, right, are so happy perfect.

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's I mean, it was Danielle's breakthrough dance.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like this is everybody's breakthrough dance. You

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 2>do tago, Well, it's you're moving your legs and their

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>legs are going up underneath other that's so cool.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>You get all those little flicks and weird kids, so

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you're just like what you just can't take.

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Your eyes off of it. And yet it's so like

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 2>just expressive. Oh man, totally.

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>So this was insane to me. And yes, like I

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>think this was her best dance ever. Yeah. And they

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.439
<v Speaker 1>just they're they're so great man. I love both of them.

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I Yeah, this was incredible to watch. And it was

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>at this point I was like, dude, if they don't

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>give them tens, I'm gonna be pissed. Yeah, And there

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>was a moment where I was like, are they not

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>going to do it. Are they going to somebody going

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>to give her a nine and no tends a gross.

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 2>The board had to be had. You're right, they said

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.800
<v Speaker 2>they set the standard a little high at the beginning,

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and then you kind of had to go from there.

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Because I had to do it.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 2>That was It was really remark There were three or

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 2>four dances tonight that were really remarkable. I still think

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Dylan and Daniella was dancing the night though, personally, So.

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>This is going to be I mean, really, if we

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>just take the tens, it's Robert, Dylan and Alex and Whitney.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's going to be the top four.

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.919
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's it's just inevitable at this point, Like, yeah,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>at this point in the night, I was going, man,

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it could Andy could sort of eke out and stick around,

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>in which case I was going to say, a Land's

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>probably going home.

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 2>That's what I thought was gonna happen.

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>It didn't happen that way, and so now I'm like, Okay,

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.240
<v Speaker 1>well now it's just going to be dancing.

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's going to come down to.

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.439
<v Speaker 1>The people that got the top top scores this week,

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and I truly just waiting for that to happen.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Andy was probably slightly disappointed, but I think he had

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 2>such a fun time, got farther than he ever thought,

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 2>and we probably walked away going like that was amazing.

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm good and I'm glad that I'm glad he stayed,

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'm also glad he's gone. Now. I think it

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 2>was time and you can now get to the The

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.280
<v Speaker 2>cream is really rising to the top at this point,

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's it's amazing, and.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>We went into flashbacks two seasons past.

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Wait before I'm sorry, Oh yeah, I apologize to our

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 2>our faithful listeners because I was so upset with daniell

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 2>exit last week that many people pointed out that I

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 2>did not do Will's History of Dance. So I'm going

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>to do an in memorium Daniel Fischle dancing to Will's

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 2>History of Dance, which was Daniel's last dance was the

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 2>contemporary dance and so for people out there, because as

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, writer, I have an encyclopedic knowledge of all

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 2>things dance. We've established this at this point, does it

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>It didn't.

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Matter with contemporary to have an encyclopedic knowledge.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 2>It matters an encyclopedic knowledge. It's an expressive and versatile

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 2>dance genre that emerged from modern dance, combining elements of

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 2>various styles ballet, jazz, and modern to create innovative and

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 2>creative movements. I love how to describe a contemporary dance.

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 2>They describe it as or I mean, I in my

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 2>head with my knowledge, describe it as a modern dance.

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:47.439
<v Speaker 2>So best way to describe.

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Contemporary modern Yeah, kind of anything.

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Kind of redundant, but it's a slow dance that isn't quick.

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>And then we went into flashbacks of seasons back and

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>profiles of the judges, with a nod to Len Goodman,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>who I gather was one of the original judges and

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>a legend who has now passed. Like I said earlier,

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought this was really cool. This gave me so

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>much appreciation for all the judges. You know, I feel

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like we've you know, we've we've we've come, we've come

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>at Carrie Anne a little hard we have, which sounds

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people are ye, and uh, this

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>gave me another more appreciation for how much she's brought

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>to the show, all of them. I was just like, oh,

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>this is a really interesting job. These people, you know,

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>they're they're up against it. In a lot of ways.

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.839
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, just seeing Derek when he was like

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>fifteen or whatever, he.

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Looked like baby. It was unbelievable to see him out there.

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and on top of his choreography for the opening number.

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I just my respect for him.

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we got to see if he'll come on

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 2>to Podmeets World. I know he's we love to have him,

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 2>And by that, I mean he's probably never heard of us.

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>There has no idea that we're doing this, but I

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 2>think both he having he and sister on because the

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>perspective of both sides would be very interesting. Of hosting

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 2>a live show like this every week, but also dancing.

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean we've she danced that opening number and is

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 2>sitting there huffing and puffing trying to get through. Now

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 2>oh wait, now I'm a host, so difficult for both

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>of them. We did come at carry in kind of hard.

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I think rightfully so at the time, but that's also

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>anytime you put yourself out there nowadays, if you say up,

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 2>then everyone who likes down hates you. It's just the

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 2>way the world works. She handled it with total class,

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>like she did, and I think I think all of

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 2>her scoring and all of the judges scoring except for

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Robert this week, and I could see why they wanted

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 2>to give him high scores. I think was pretty spot on.

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. Then we do this relay section, which

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't quite clear on what this was, and then

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:51.959
<v Speaker 1>again felt kind of rigged, you know, like because who

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>they were partnered or who they were versus seemed like

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a big deal, you know, like that kind of determines

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>like so the and then also the mirror ball passed

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 1>mirror ball winners who they were dancing with, Like with Jordan,

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>she got another other big guy, Apollo, who hadn't danced

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>in thirteen years. Yeah, Whereas when it came for Alex

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and Robert the last set of relay, she was like

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>last year's winners, both of them got the most recent winners.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was like, that's a stacked deck. Yeah,

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that's total.

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>They were giving Robert and Alex a huge leg up

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>on everybody else. Yeah.

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Kind of pissed me off. Man, I don't disagree with you.

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I have not liked most of these side little sojourns

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>that they're taking. It seems a little strang It seems

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 2>like a way to stack the deck of riggan again

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>to boost who you want and yeah, exactly, Whitney had

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 2>community got two extra points. She won the dance off

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 2>the week before it. They it's an easy way to

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of figure out next steps.

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it was Jordan versus a lame Jordan one.

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was kind of an obvious me too.

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 1>When you compared the two dances as good as Elaine was,

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like, no, but it was cool to see

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>how how well they worked with another partner. I did

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>like that factor of this whole thing, you know that

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>they you got to see like these people have to adjust,

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and during the pre dance packages, I was like, oh God,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.760
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a disaster, and it wasn't.

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much across the board, it was solid. People were

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>agree and those now those people who admitted that they

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>hadn't danced in years really brought it. And you were like, oh,

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I could see why you won, and made.

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Me kind of wish I could retool all of Dancing

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 2>with the Stars. Yeah, because if I could retool all

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 2>of Dancing with the Stars, it would be two celebrities

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 2>who have to learn how to dance together. The pro

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>is teaching them how to dance. Every week, But the

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>actual dances every week are two different celebrities, double the

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 2>amount of celebrities that are there, first of all, and

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>you're watching everybody kind of on equal footing. And so

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>you've got you know, it's a celebrity of celebrity, and

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>then you get your professional who trained you every week. Wow,

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 2>So you can never have somebody standing there while a

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 2>professional dances around you. It's always the two of you

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 2>together learning.

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that would just result in worst dances though,

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, of.

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Course, But that's I mean because you don't get to

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>see professionals dancing all over the place. But to me,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that would be a really interesting Maybe do a season

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 2>like that. Do one season where all the professionals do

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 2>all the interstitial dances and they train you all week long,

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 2>but on the floor it's just the two of you together.

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I like that all right. Then we had Andy versus Dylan.

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.399
<v Speaker 1>It seemed like a foregone conclusion that Dylan would win,

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>which he did, of course, but Andy had this shirt moment,

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 1>which didn't we make this very joke. I feel like

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 1>we made this exact joke that we were like, will

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you'd rip your shirt over and you'd have one of

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>those muscle shirts under it. We made that joke and

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>then they did it, and his commitment to it. At

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>this point I was like, you know what, I don't know.

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I think Andy. I'm okay with Andy sticking around another

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>week because it was commitment, good dancing actually yeah, it

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't bad. Some of his best dancing. Yeah, and funny, entertaining,

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all the things that we wanted to be.

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 1>And it reminded me of of what we talked about

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 1>with you, is like, you would be best if you

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.240
<v Speaker 1>entered Dancing with the Stars thinking of it as a character,

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 1>thinking of it as like a joke, as a as

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>a as a comedy bit. You would end up committing

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>more physically than if you felt the pressure to like

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 1>actually be sexy or you know. And I felt like

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Andy came alive in the same vein when he was like,

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I know this joke is coming and this I'm gonna play,

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and yet he physically ended up committing more than he

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>ever has.

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>It was really cool. See, it was a good moment.

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>It really was a good moment.

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I was also watching Rumor Willis and the rehearsals going.

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>She won What's happening here? Is she any good?

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 2>And then when she came out, she was amazing. Ye.

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Together they were so good.

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Oh, it's not just Daniella bringing up Dylan,

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, like he's really working well with another partner

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 1>who's also amazing.

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Really incredibly well together. But that's what I mean, two

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:07.720
<v Speaker 2>celebrities together, it could work.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Could be could really be great.

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Dylan won this face off. Why these face

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<v Speaker 1>offs become these face offs again? I just don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>And we ended with Alex and Robert, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>where they got the like the most recent dancers. They

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<v Speaker 1>got pros who are like fresh off of winning the

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<v Speaker 1>Mirror Ball. Their dances were really good. I thought Alex's

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<v Speaker 1>was insanely good.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was better than Robert's. Yes, that was

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<v Speaker 2>the only one I thought they got wrong. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. They want Robert to win. Yes, And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about the fact that he kicks her in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see that in the back of I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he literally kicks her.

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<v Speaker 1>In with that final move where he's like slamming her

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground, almost flipping her over and jumping back up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what, this is crazy? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you see it rehearsals and you see how crazy it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they nailed it. Man, they really got the think.

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<v Speaker 2>They got the wrong one here. I also think, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you said this before. You may have changed

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<v Speaker 2>your tune. I don't know, but I was the entire

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 2>night of watching. I think the jive is my least

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 2>favorite dance. It's just it's not it's I prefer the

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 2>holding onto each other, classical kind of dance with some

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 2>moves in between, the kind of jive of the quick

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 2>step in them side by side. It's not my f

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<v Speaker 2>And so that threw me a bit because it just

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 2>isn't my favorite dance. But I thought this was the

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<v Speaker 2>only one that they got wrong. I thought that Alex

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<v Speaker 2>deserved to win this round.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankly, yep, yep. I think most people felt that way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, and that was, uh, that was it for

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<v Speaker 1>the dancing. Then we just had the uh, the results.

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<v Speaker 1>I really was a shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked. Absolutely. I thought I thought the fandi's

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>are coming out and it was becoming a thing, and

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:53.959
<v Speaker 2>they just were going to keep him on. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think he was gonna win. I didn't think anybody was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna beat Robert, but I thought he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be make it to the finals. Wow, So the idea

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was convinced after starting the show and

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<v Speaker 2>the low scores that Elaine that this was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be Elaine's last week of dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it will be next week, yeah, probably, that's what

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.359
<v Speaker 1>we're looking at. Or when you have people with all ten, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be Jordan and Lane dropping off, which is

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<v Speaker 1>too bad because they both have great journeys. They do

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>incredibly well. And they said it in this episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it a lot that this season is insane, yeah, stacked, snacky, ye,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think in any other season Jordan and Lane

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<v Speaker 1>would have a genuine shot from what I gather at winning.

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 2>But as with Danielle, that's what daniel we're talking about kill.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've got When you have Robert and Alex

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<v Speaker 1>and Whitney and now even Dylan, you're just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>people that are taking it to this next level.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why I hope somebody like Dylan or Robert wins,

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<v Speaker 2>simply because these were two guys. And again, you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>right that Robert has been training to be on Dancing

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<v Speaker 2>with the Stars his entire life because he knew we

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be here and it's his family legacy kind

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 2>of thing. But somebody like Dylan from where he was

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 2>to where he is now, to me, represents the show exactly,

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 2>perfectly represents the show. Whereas Hey Whitney, the girl who

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 2>grew up dancing, who went to school for dancing, whose

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 2>dancer whole life and is now professional TikTok dancer wins

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 2>a dancing competition, that's not a headline to me at all.

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Dylan Ephron comes out and wins. That's pretty impressive. Yeah,

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 2>and you're right that dance. Just the move. It's a

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>poster of him holding her in the plank position with

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the light behind them. I mean that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on some kid's wall who wants to grow up

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and be a dancer. That's like, that's Michael Jordan dunking

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 2>on you in the dance competition. I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 2>That was insane. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode of Pod meets Twirld. Join

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