WEBVTT - Maitland Ward Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Warning.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode contains a bunch of adult language and subject matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Please proceed with caution. What about the halfway mark for

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<v Speaker 2>our book club? Has everyone purchased their book or rented

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<v Speaker 2>their book? Where are we on the reading journey of

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<v Speaker 2>Blob a Love Story by.

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<v Speaker 3>You've already done already, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not started.

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<v Speaker 3>Do your homework?

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<v Speaker 2>Person, I am you know, but I actually have not

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<v Speaker 2>started yet. I was kind of putting my feelers out

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<v Speaker 2>to see where you guys are.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you haven't started yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you set this up.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have not started yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable. I haven't know. Do you have the book? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you do have? Is you've bought the book?

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<v Speaker 2>I have the book in the library.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you can you rent a book?

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<v Speaker 2>How did you check it out?

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<v Speaker 3>To mend a book?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 4>When you said rent a book, I was like, is

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<v Speaker 4>it like you have to be twenty six?

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have your license?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, it's one year older than you need to be

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<v Speaker 2>to rest.

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<v Speaker 4>Never get the insurance on the book. That's a scam exactly,

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I got and then it falls in the incinerator.

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<v Speaker 3>It does.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I have the book.

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<v Speaker 4>I have not started the book because I still have

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<v Speaker 4>like three hundred pages left of the fantasy novel that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in right now, and I cannot do that.

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<v Speaker 5>For sure, I would be way behind. But I'm actually

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<v Speaker 5>ahead of you, guys. Now, I'm only nineteen pages in.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, so you just started too, Okay, twenty three pages.

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<v Speaker 3>I got this many notes on the back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, on nineteen pages.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, I see a nice pen stuck in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you ever find Christmas pen stuck in any other book? No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, don't know where Christmas pen win.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a great gift, it was, I mean, hundred

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<v Speaker 5>dollars bookmark is a wonderful gift.

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<v Speaker 2>I still check every single day for writers leather jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>I still I really do I have. It'd be awesome

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<v Speaker 2>if you could lose one every year.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes me so sad because it really is like.

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<v Speaker 5>We found that one pretty quickly with one of our

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<v Speaker 5>listeners sent it to us. I assumed they.

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<v Speaker 2>Were out there, Yeah, it's right now.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not out there, No, they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard to find. Going back to book club,

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<v Speaker 2>we did hear from the author Maggie Sue, which is

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<v Speaker 2>our Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool until we don't like the book and then we

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<v Speaker 3>can't talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About it exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope so oh writers got nineteen, He's already got

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<v Speaker 2>notes on page nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I've written the first chapter.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl, I'm writer Strong,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm Wilfredell. Season six is here. We have had

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<v Speaker 2>our own fears about entering the final two seasons Boy

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<v Speaker 2>Meets World. Thanks to these small fragments of memories, we

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<v Speaker 2>still have the glimpses of our souls leaving our body

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<v Speaker 2>mid scene already visible in season five, and the warnings

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<v Speaker 2>we get from you listeners like uh huh, here we

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<v Speaker 2>go or they are not gonna like this. But we

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<v Speaker 2>are going in with an open mind like we always do.

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<v Speaker 2>And one high point we can hang our hats on

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<v Speaker 2>is the addition of a new character, a love interest,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what the writers wanted to call it. Rachel McGuire,

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<v Speaker 2>played by an actress who was so much taller than us.

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<v Speaker 2>Our boom mics can be seen in her first episodes

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<v Speaker 2>because our boom operators weren't used to actors with any

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<v Speaker 2>height being on set. She began her career on soap

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<v Speaker 2>operas and had a guest star spot on Home Improvement,

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<v Speaker 2>then was introduced on our show alongside Penbrook College, a

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<v Speaker 2>brand new environment for our little high school graduates. We've

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<v Speaker 2>already had some questions about what exactly the writers were

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<v Speaker 2>doing with this edition, and she might have the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>No slight to her. She genuinely did as much as

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<v Speaker 2>she humanly could with what was given to her, But

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<v Speaker 2>come on, give the girl a storyline. Luckily, she'd stick

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<v Speaker 2>around right through the end of the series with many

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<v Speaker 2>more stories to tell, including a farewell trip to the

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<v Speaker 2>Peace Corps. But in real life, she's made the trip

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<v Speaker 2>to hardcore. She's now a top a spicier career, navigating

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<v Speaker 2>the industry of adult entertainment and making headlines along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And coincidentally, a girl moving in with two guys is

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<v Speaker 2>still a storyline she can act in. So now, as

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<v Speaker 2>we enter the enigma that is season six, we are

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<v Speaker 2>happy to welcome to Pod meets World. Maitland Ward. We

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<v Speaker 2>were just laughing because in your intro and included a

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<v Speaker 2>little line that said that you were. You stuck around

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<v Speaker 2>right through to the end of the series with many

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<v Speaker 2>more stories to tell, including a farewell trip to the

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<v Speaker 2>Peace Corps. But in real life, she's made the trip

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<v Speaker 2>to hardcore. Yeah, we thought we thought you might like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You thought you'd get a kick out of it. So

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<v Speaker 2>we were just laughing.

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<v Speaker 6>About that, that Peace Corps.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what happened. Maybe you have the answer for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for coming on before Boy Meets World.

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<v Speaker 2>You were in almost two hundred and fifty episodes of

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<v Speaker 2>The Bold and the Beautiful.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I had a very like thick soap Upper Fast.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you got two hundred and fifty episodes. What

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<v Speaker 3>was that three weeks?

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<v Speaker 6>Working on soap is the hardest job and people don't

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<v Speaker 6>like appreciate as much as I would because we would

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<v Speaker 6>do like three shows in two days. Like Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 6>I was on like three years or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that is so many episodes.

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<v Speaker 6>It's so many. And I was in school at the time,

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<v Speaker 6>and I know you guys know about being in school

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<v Speaker 6>and like working at the same time. Although it was

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<v Speaker 6>different from me because I was the only person in

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<v Speaker 6>school except for two year.

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<v Speaker 2>Olds and so were you You were you in high school?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I was in high school. Yeah, oh wow, I started

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<v Speaker 6>it when I was like sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like, was that in La or was that in

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<v Speaker 1>New York?

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<v Speaker 6>That was in La? It was in La.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're originally from Californ yet, But what got you

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<v Speaker 2>into acting? What was your origin story? You know what?

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<v Speaker 6>I got into acting. I always wanted to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved like playing characters and and just you know,

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<v Speaker 6>but I was I wasn't a Hollywood kid at all,

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<v Speaker 6>Like I was. My parents were like, wait till you're

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<v Speaker 6>old enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, you know where you.

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<v Speaker 6>Can make your own decisions and stuff, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they didn't know all about it or anything. So but

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<v Speaker 6>I actually was in Uh. I got my braces off

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<v Speaker 6>when I was sixteen, and I went because I was

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<v Speaker 6>a big soap opera fan anyway at that age.

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<v Speaker 2>Who did you watch soap operas with? Because I have

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<v Speaker 2>memories of watching psyp operas with my mom when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we watched different ones like The Couch Days of

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<v Speaker 6>Our Lives with my mom and uh yeah. So so

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, I want to like try, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>soap acting. So I took an acting class just on

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<v Speaker 6>a whim because I saw a casting director for The

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<v Speaker 6>Bold and Beautiful was going to take you know, teaching

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<v Speaker 6>acting workshop in LA and I was like, I want

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<v Speaker 6>to go this. This is going to be so cool.

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<v Speaker 6>And I thought it was going to be all these

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<v Speaker 6>like hot guys and I was, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 6>going to go in there and it was going to

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<v Speaker 6>be like, that's so heroin coming in there, and it

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<v Speaker 6>was all like disgruntled actors in their thirties and forties

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<v Speaker 6>for me at sixteen, and I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>but it was good because I got noticed by the

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<v Speaker 6>casting director because I was so odd to be in

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<v Speaker 6>there and and I do soaps and I was good

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<v Speaker 6>at it, and she said, you should audition for this

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<v Speaker 6>role that is coming up on our show. And I

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<v Speaker 6>had actually gotten an agent who had done practically nothing

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<v Speaker 6>for me, so actually this was my second audition ever.

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<v Speaker 6>She sued for yeah, for Bowl and Beautiful, and there

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<v Speaker 6>was multiple auditions and I and then I got it

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<v Speaker 6>and it was like it was a whirlwind because I

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't really expecting to become like maybe I expected to

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<v Speaker 6>get like a commercial or something, but not to be

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<v Speaker 6>on the Time show. All the time, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did your parents think then? They hadn't They

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<v Speaker 2>had kind of encouraged you to just wait until maybe

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<v Speaker 2>after high school. Yeah, then you go to this acting

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<v Speaker 2>class and someone says, actually you should audition, and you

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<v Speaker 2>book it. What does your family think at that?

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<v Speaker 6>It was absolutely wild, but I mean they were super

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<v Speaker 6>excited for me. It was just like overnight. I had

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<v Speaker 6>to be at work all the time, right, and you

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<v Speaker 6>guys know, and the soap opera schedule was so grueling.

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<v Speaker 6>But I also was able to go to school part time,

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<v Speaker 6>like I went. I'd work three days a week and

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<v Speaker 6>go to school two days a week. So I was

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<v Speaker 6>like I rolled in and I was like, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 6>been working on the soap. And all the guys that

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<v Speaker 6>I worked with on the soap who were my boyfriends,

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<v Speaker 6>were like twenty four and twenty eight. And I was

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<v Speaker 6>hash and pummed to my little school plays because I

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<v Speaker 6>still was in the drama department and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I at my professional job and then I'm doing the

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<v Speaker 6>drama plays and everything, and they would come and my

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<v Speaker 6>friends would be like they're in the audience, and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>they're my boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait the twenty four and twenty eight year old guys

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<v Speaker 2>would come to your high school performance. Yes, yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>they bring their wives.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't well they didn't have wives at the time,

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<v Speaker 6>but no, not really. But the twenty eight year old

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<v Speaker 6>and I are actually still really good friends to this

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<v Speaker 6>day and people. Yeah, the twenty four year old, he

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<v Speaker 6>was kind of sketchy.

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<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, were you emancipated and coming to set by

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<v Speaker 5>yourself or were one of your parents coming.

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<v Speaker 6>I had a tutor there, and I had an on

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<v Speaker 6>set tutor, but my parents would take me there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>when I was sixteen, and you know, once I got

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<v Speaker 6>to be like seventeen or definitely eighteen, I was. I

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<v Speaker 6>was doing it myself. But I had a great tutor.

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<v Speaker 6>He was amazing. He was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you didn't get emancipated.

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<v Speaker 6>You were okay, and they were really good about it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know. There's so many horror stories about you know, Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 6>and of course like young actors and working on sets

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<v Speaker 6>and long hours and like you know, using them and

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<v Speaker 6>abusing them sort of. But I think because I was

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<v Speaker 6>the only one, like everybody was really productive of me. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>we had to do everything by the book or something's

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<v Speaker 6>going to happen, and they were always watchful over me.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's good. We just entered college in our rewatch

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<v Speaker 2>and Rachel is introduced right away. You, of course, are

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<v Speaker 2>in even the opening credits before we know who your

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<v Speaker 2>character is or anything about you. Do you remember the

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<v Speaker 2>opening credit shoot?

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<v Speaker 6>I remember us filming it on the in the lot

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<v Speaker 6>on the New York Street, and yeah, I totally remember

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<v Speaker 6>filming that. That was a lot of fun. We filmed

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<v Speaker 6>it a little bit after we started filming like this season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so I knew you guys first. It wasn't like I, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm here for the opening credits, right, but kinda but

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<v Speaker 6>but yeah, and I remember I remember dumping the water,

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<v Speaker 6>and I remember just it was a lot of fun,

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<v Speaker 6>and it was just guy looking back. That was such

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<v Speaker 6>like innocent times, sort of like we were all so young.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, this was my first, you know sitcom. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>I had done a lot of like guest parts and stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>and this was my first like big, you know, primetime piece,

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<v Speaker 6>and and you guys had already been so established, so

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<v Speaker 6>I was coming in, like, oh my gosh, to this

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<v Speaker 6>family there.

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<v Speaker 3>So do you remember your audition.

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<v Speaker 6>I did not audition for a Boy meets World, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna say, because we didn't meet. It wasn't like ze.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was Zoe Zoe Zoe.

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<v Speaker 6>And I went in and I was so oppos because

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<v Speaker 6>Selma Blair was against me, like testing opposite of each other.

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<v Speaker 6>But I remember, you know, Michael I went in there

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<v Speaker 6>because he was doing Zoe, Duncan, Jack and Jane, and

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<v Speaker 6>he was really hard on me on my audition and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh my god, does he not like me?

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<v Speaker 6>Does he hate me? Like he's like giving me all

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<v Speaker 6>these things that you didn't do this or I do this,

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<v Speaker 6>But at the end he's like, Okay, i'll see you

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<v Speaker 6>the next day. You got to do this good. You

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<v Speaker 6>got to get this perfect of the Zoe audition. And

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<v Speaker 6>I remember I went in and I nailed it. I

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<v Speaker 6>was so proud of that audition. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 6>did it and Michael was like, you did perfect, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, I'm gonna get this role.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it.

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<v Speaker 6>And then they're like, no, we chose Selma as You're

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<v Speaker 6>She was more like, I don't know, dark and brooding,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was like, you know, goofy and light. But

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<v Speaker 6>then Michael was like, okay, you're gonna be on boy,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm giving you a holding deal at Disney and so

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<v Speaker 6>because they had wanted to do something with Jack and

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<v Speaker 6>Eric of a girl in the show. So so then

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<v Speaker 6>he said, yeah, you're right, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's a good feeling. So at least you don't

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<v Speaker 2>you don't book the role you are sitting there looking for,

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<v Speaker 2>and then another opportunity that you didn't even know existed.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, I was created for you. Like so essentially

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<v Speaker 5>nobody else ever auditioned for Rachel.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. So so that was really special. And I actually

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<v Speaker 6>had the role for a long time before I even

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<v Speaker 6>went to set because pilot that was like in March

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<v Speaker 6>or something that I got the holding deal and then we.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have started the season yeah, in like Augusta.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was like just in limbo waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>So then, what did Michael or whoever who told you

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<v Speaker 2>what the character of Rachel Maguire was going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>What were you told Michael?

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<v Speaker 6>I had meetings with Michael beforehand, and basically I was

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<v Speaker 6>told that I was like the comic relief girlfriend kind

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<v Speaker 6>of character of Jack and Eric because they needed some

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<v Speaker 6>kind of energy in that apartment that like they wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to have a girl in there to kind of go

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<v Speaker 6>back and forth. I think the character was sort of

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<v Speaker 6>developed along the way, but they definitely wanted that threes

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<v Speaker 6>Company type.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Yeah, that's exactly yes, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Watching the season start, it was like, that's the first

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<v Speaker 5>reference out of my mouth. I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 5>it's totally a Three's Company show.

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<v Speaker 6>Suddenly, Yeah, it absolutely was, and and Three's Company was

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<v Speaker 6>one of my favorite shows watching reruns growing up, so

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, this is really fun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Had you ever seen an episode of Boy Meets World before?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I had seen it, and I had seen earlier

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<v Speaker 6>episodes of Boy Meets World. Okay, so I definitely knew

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<v Speaker 6>about it, and I knew the fan base and stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>although I think none of us actually knew the fan

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<v Speaker 6>base back now, I know, like, what was it like

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<v Speaker 6>being on an iconic show? And I don't remember any

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<v Speaker 6>of you like talking about it like it was an

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<v Speaker 6>iconic show. We were just working.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, no, If anything, we all very much felt

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<v Speaker 2>like we didn't know. We see. We would to hear

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<v Speaker 2>of ratings here and there, but it didn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a show we were where people were watching. It kind

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<v Speaker 2>of felt like we went to work every week and

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<v Speaker 2>it aired, but like was anybody watching it?

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<v Speaker 6>Who knows exactly? And you'd only know if you like

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<v Speaker 6>got fan mail or like yeah, you didn't had the

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<v Speaker 6>internet or any of you know, Meetia or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the first time you met Will and Matt?

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<v Speaker 2>Because so much of at least, you know, we're three

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<v Speaker 2>episodes into the season, your storyline is exclusively with Will

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<v Speaker 2>and Matt. So do you remember, like the first time

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<v Speaker 2>you met them? I do?

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<v Speaker 6>I remember? Will was hilarious. You'd always have me do

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<v Speaker 6>the Pillsbury dough boy thing to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, wait, do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do it now? Or she pokes you in the belly

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<v Speaker 2>and you do what?

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<v Speaker 6>That was bumming right off the bat, and so I

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<v Speaker 6>had I remember you guys hazed me the first time. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>do you remember the first you said that the new

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<v Speaker 6>person came on the show, you had to sing for

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<v Speaker 6>the studio audience?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, serious, you have to do this, that's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>What did he What did you sing?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't remember what the song was, and I think

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<v Speaker 6>it was he had it all on like a paper

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<v Speaker 6>and like he was like, okay, you love to do this,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Okay, you got to do this when did

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<v Speaker 6>you realize it was fake and they went out?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's still I feel like we still do

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<v Speaker 5>a version of that. We'll be like, and you got

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<v Speaker 5>you got your monologue?

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<v Speaker 3>Ready?

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<v Speaker 2>You did you practice that?

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<v Speaker 6>Always do?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like when your backstage, you're like, and you got

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<v Speaker 5>your monologue and you watch people just like lose it,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're like, you're supposed to say you got your whole?

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<v Speaker 2>Then you wonder why we all have anxiety dreams around acting,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're constantly telling each other.

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<v Speaker 4>We should I told you that was the first thing

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<v Speaker 4>Rusty said to me and we were walking up for

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<v Speaker 4>the audience my very first night. He said, are you nervous?

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<v Speaker 4>So I said yeah, I said you should be your shit?

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<v Speaker 6>Like, oh god, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that I love that. Your first the first

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<v Speaker 2>week on the show, we tell you have to sing

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<v Speaker 2>a song on the show. Okay. So what was it

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<v Speaker 2>like being in this rather awkward love triangle with the guys.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been a couple of times in these first

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<v Speaker 2>few episodes where we have cringed a little because your character.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, we don't know much about you other than

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<v Speaker 2>that you have been broken up with by a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you're kind of just a prop of temptation

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<v Speaker 2>for the two of them in this.

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<v Speaker 6>It's my term now, yes, yes, And so what did

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<v Speaker 6>what did it feel like for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you did you? Did you like, yeah, did you

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<v Speaker 2>have any thoughts of that? Like am I ever going

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<v Speaker 2>to get to do more than this? Or were you

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<v Speaker 2>just having fun being there?

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<v Speaker 6>You know what? I did it, But at the time

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<v Speaker 6>I had a very different mindset than looking back on

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<v Speaker 6>it now, because looking back I see it too. I

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<v Speaker 6>see I was in Lundray like all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was short.

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<v Speaker 3>It was always it's a short robes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that's totally straight from Three's Company, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, it's like, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was. And I look back and I say, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, was it people trying to say make her

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<v Speaker 6>sexy and make her be this thing? But I think

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<v Speaker 6>it was such a mindset at the time that it

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<v Speaker 6>was just was ingrained in all of us and Graden's

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<v Speaker 6>in society. It wasn't like we didn't even think about it.

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<v Speaker 6>So I wasn't like thinking about like at the time,

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<v Speaker 6>like oh I I wish I could do more than

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<v Speaker 6>being sexy or being like this prop of seduction or whatever,

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<v Speaker 6>but I didn't like I was just thinking, am I

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<v Speaker 6>sexy enough? Am I doing good enough to people like enough?

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<v Speaker 6>So that was my mindset, and I think that was

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<v Speaker 6>a mindset of a lot of people back then, and

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<v Speaker 6>also especially a lot of women in Hollywood. That was

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<v Speaker 6>really difficult time.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it was also probably not super east. Joining a

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<v Speaker 2>show in its sixth season had I know, looking together

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, you feel like a new kid

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<v Speaker 2>on campus. Do you remember what that transition was like

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<v Speaker 2>for you? Do you remember how you felt on day one?

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<v Speaker 6>I remember, yes, I was nervous coming into like such

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<v Speaker 6>a well oiled machine, like you guys have been doing

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<v Speaker 6>this for so long and you were all friends and

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<v Speaker 6>everybody was really like a tight knit family. But you

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<v Speaker 6>guys are really welcoming to me. When I came in.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't like I was rejected or anything. You probably like,

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<v Speaker 6>who is this new person like coming into the storyline.

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<v Speaker 6>But I do remember the nerves were gone pretty quick,

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<v Speaker 6>and some of that was from the hazing it was,

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<v Speaker 6>but yeah, it was. It was nice because it was

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<v Speaker 6>well oiled too, because you guys had it all down

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<v Speaker 6>and sometimes you know, new shows and stuff for americ

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<v Speaker 6>because they're doing and they don't know if you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to be picked up. You don't know if it's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be a success. So I think I think it

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<v Speaker 6>was good that way. And you know, I'm glad I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't know how I iconic it was going to be

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<v Speaker 6>back then, because I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Have had more nerves. Yes, So do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>favorite behind the scenes stories or memories from that first scene?

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<v Speaker 6>I remember when the bear came on set.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell us about the bear?

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, the bear, like that was first of all?

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<v Speaker 6>That was That is one of my favorite episodes that

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<v Speaker 6>we did because it was like all of us together

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<v Speaker 6>and I wasn't secluded from past. It was like we

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<v Speaker 6>were all friends together.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're now three episodes in. Has Rachel met the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of the cast? No? No, but I'm saying three

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<v Speaker 4>episodes in, we haven't even Rachel hasn't met anybody else.

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<v Speaker 6>What I'm saying, I beat other people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We're only three episodes in, so we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't gotten to that episode.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, because Eric mentions Rachel to his parents yea,

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<v Speaker 5>and the like introductions she's had at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this Rachel girl at my house when going.

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<v Speaker 4>To introduce the character like to everybody, or she's just

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<v Speaker 4>going to seamlessly.

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<v Speaker 6>At Christmas. I think, you know when the baby when

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<v Speaker 6>the baby like was isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>The baby at the end of the season though, Oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>the baby because she's.

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<v Speaker 6>Not because okay, yeah, that was when I was like

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<v Speaker 6>cheating and not cheating, but I was going behind you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Will's back.

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<v Speaker 4>With Oh that's right when you picked Matt Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well when were you told about Maitland joining the show?

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<v Speaker 2>When were you told that was going to be your

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<v Speaker 2>storyline for the sixth season episode three?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>So really we didn't know, we were we were Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we weren't told. It was like, hey, we're bringing somebody

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<v Speaker 4>on that you and mad are going to You're going

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<v Speaker 4>to live with a girl and she's coming on. We

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<v Speaker 4>already cast her, like okay, and so the morning of

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<v Speaker 4>the table, like when we got the script essentially like

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<v Speaker 4>we were never we were never told this stuff. We

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<v Speaker 4>were never hey, Matt Lawrence is coming on the show,

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<v Speaker 4>or hey we're getting rid of Lily or we're getting

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<v Speaker 4>rid of Tony Quinn. We would just show up and

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 4>somebody was at it, or somebody was dropped. So we

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<v Speaker 4>were never told.

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<v Speaker 3>Any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so day one you were, you were told. So

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<v Speaker 2>truly Mayland knew about her way more.

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<v Speaker 3>Than any of us.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she got it in March. March finished in March, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So Michael told us too, and we just don't remember,

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<v Speaker 5>Like that's possible because if.

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<v Speaker 1>You was like, I don't, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't think Ny just mentioned it and said, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to do this. We're gonna I don't think they

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<v Speaker 6>have lands in March.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the thing is is the business at the

0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.719
<v Speaker 4>time especially was so strange that you never knew what

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.119
<v Speaker 4>was going to happen. Hey, we can't afford that new

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:44.879
<v Speaker 4>character you wanted to bring on, or this was going

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.280
<v Speaker 4>to happen, or that was going to I remember, I

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:47.239
<v Speaker 4>just kept his mind. Joe.

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.880
<v Speaker 5>I remember there Zoe's shooting next to us. Jeff McCracken

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 5>was directing multiple episodes.

0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because I was on that show. You were Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I went over and did Zoe, Zoe, Duncan, Jack and Jane.

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 4>So they were like, yeah, they were, they were doing

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<v Speaker 4>that whole thinges. Yeah, so it was but it was yeah,

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 4>that was the whole thing was that we were. You know,

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.400
<v Speaker 4>it's the television, especially in the nineties, was so in

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.920
<v Speaker 4>flux that it was we never knew one day to another.

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.159
<v Speaker 4>So part of me thinks it was just Michael just

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<v Speaker 4>not telling us because he never knew what was going

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<v Speaker 4>to happen. And I mean, it could be, Hey, I

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 4>don't want to tell you that something's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 4>and that it's not Matt Lawrence is going to join.

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Well now we don't have the money for Mat Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 4>so Matt's not going to join, or Lily's got you

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<v Speaker 4>just never knew. I'd like to think that's what it was.

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 4>But I also think Michael is such a scatterbrain with

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.159
<v Speaker 4>his stories that it was just kind of like, oh, no,

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.679
<v Speaker 4>I told you, and it was like, no, you actually didn't,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's and in his mind he did it was

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't malicious.

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.320
<v Speaker 1>It was just like he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Got ten thousand things going and now, no, we talked

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 4>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We had old.

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<v Speaker 4>Conversation like, no, you never actually brought up the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that that was happening at all. So I think there

0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:54.120
<v Speaker 4>was just so much going on that we were never told.

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:55.399
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that when.

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.160
<v Speaker 4>Everyone else found out was when we found out.

0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So trying to establish a little bit of a timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>So you do you start Bold and the Beautiful at sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on that, you say, for like about three years,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe you wrap that up around nineteen. Yes, how

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 2>old were you at the time that then you started

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Boy Meets World?

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<v Speaker 6>Was I twenty twenty to twenty one? I forget, like,

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<v Speaker 6>oh no, i'd probably just been twenty one, because uh,

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 6>my birthday is February and it was.

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Much that I got out.

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, okay, so twenty one, so you've basically gone

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 2>from like a Bold and the Beautiful ending you do

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 2>a guest spot on Home Improvement, and then you book

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Boy Meets World.

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I did a couple other like independent films and

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:35.680
<v Speaker 6>stuff at the time.

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.160
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, okay, worked, it worked in between four Yeah.

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 6>Back and forth, and I think there was like a

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 6>pilot or something that I didn't go okay, I think

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.440
<v Speaker 6>or was that afterwards? But yeah, so it was pretty quick.

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 6>It was pretty quick that.

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I got Yeah, it's pretty fast. And obviously being a

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 2>regular on a TV show is like a massive deal.

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 2>How is your family feeling at this point? Is everyone

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 2>still super supportive? Really excited for you, Like, what's what

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 2>change in your family? Superscript.

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 6>Grandmother loved Boy Meets World because she thought it was

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:10.640
<v Speaker 6>just like the most wholesome show. It was really cute.

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Was everyone tuning in every week to aast? You?

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely? Absolutely they were watching every week.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any episodes that stick out as being

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 2>a favorite. You were about to tell us the bear story.

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to hear your memories about the bear.

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Danielle did not remember the bear, by the way.

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't remember the bear.

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Remember there was a bear there there was honey on

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>your head?

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I know I didn't. Somebody said that. I was like, oh,

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 2>I do kind of remember it being annoying to have

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>honey all over my head.

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 4>Can you can you imagine the life you have to

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 4>lead to vaguely remember being covered in honey in front

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 4>of a bear.

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 2>It was all a dream. Please tell me what your

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>memories are of the bear.

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 6>I remember because I the prank episode. So they were

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 6>so bad to meet Corey and Sean. You guys, you're like, oh,

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:07.919
<v Speaker 6>we're going to steal your parking spot. You don't need it.

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:09.919
<v Speaker 6>I don't care that you have a special job. We

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 6>want to get closer to this wow, and then you're like,

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 6>you put my car in my room and like all

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 6>this stuff. So I guess I did to get back

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 6>at you, guys. I somehow found a bear and tried

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:22.120
<v Speaker 6>to have you murdered.

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 2>This must be the prank episode, right.

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Episodes?

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is the war episode of War. Yeah episode.

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 2>So this comes up a lot in our emails. We

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 2>get emailed about the prank War episode a lot, and

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>people think it is crazy, like the both and it

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:46.160
<v Speaker 2>gets mentioned just full disclosure. It gets mentioned as being

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 2>a jump the shark moment that like this will We're so.

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Over the by this point is in the rear view

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 4>by this point, my god, wait is this.

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>At the end of season six?

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Okay, plays with girls of season seven.

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 2>How does it start? Why? Why is there a prank?

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Why are we going after each other?

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 6>They starting a parking spot.

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it starts over a parking spot.

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 6>Yes, okay, And then they put my car in my

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 6>room somehow.

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 4>In like take it apart and put it together, and

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 4>then it becomes a bigger storyline about the old cast

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.919
<v Speaker 4>three of you and newcast and Eric is in the

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 4>middle of both stories.

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 6>So it was like, yeah, it was kind of like

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 6>a metaphor, a giant metaphor for like real life and

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 6>also the you know the show. But so yeah, so

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 6>it goes back and forth for a while and then

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 6>they I get the bear and I, well, you were like,

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 6>do you have your period? I was, And that's when

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 6>I was composing in those nudy things because I was

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 6>going to do the nudy photos for for the student union,

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 6>because that was how it shamed me. Was you know,

0:26:58.080 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 6>revenge ports.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 4>It's awful.

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but yeah, and you were like do you have

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 6>your career? And I'm like what And he's like, the

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 6>bear might eat you. Yeah, I mean they're attracted to us,

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 6>very concerned about all of the women. They were good.

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, damn right.

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 4>That well, I remember I think the bear trainer asked

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 4>like are any of the women menstruating?

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything? Because it's like it's a fucking bear.

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 4>It was pretty Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was crazy.

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 6>But then yeah, and then the guys they steal my

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 6>nuty pictures that I had made for Jack and put

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 6>them all up in the student union.

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, which is just yeah, that talk about

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 4>not aging, well that shouldn't have aged. Then that was

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 4>like stealing photos, like kind of sensual photos that a

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 4>girl sent her her man.

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>And again, this wasn't Internet days.

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 4>This wasn't throwing it out to the world, or this

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 4>wasn't even like somebody hacked me or something.

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 2>The guys legitimately had to like break.

0:27:55.960 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 4>Into the their no longer apartment and steal photos that.

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Has that? Has that always been illegal or was it?

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Is it only illegal in like the more recent.

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 6>Well probably back then, but just you know, just creepy.

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 6>You guys were going through my underwear to war.

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Remember, Oh my gosh, we don't remember. I don't remember.

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It's there's gonna be a lot in that episode. That's

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>going to be rough, is what I remember.

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, just enjoy every brief moment we have before

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 2>we get there.

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:29.959
<v Speaker 6>It was a really great episode that we were all

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 6>and it was a two parts I mean that's where

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 6>you were plays with squirrels.

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it was big. It was big in the

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>guys of the world.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 4>That's because then the the next episode is you cut

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 4>to the fantasy of it being ten years later, and

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 4>this is where we meet your daughter Beverly Glen and

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 4>all that kind of stuff, and then plays with squirrels

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 4>comes in. Matt is a captain of industry.

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 6>I remember us all hugging on the floor like because

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 6>remember we all to get in the pile, and it was.

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Like that's when Phoene breaks the desk.

0:28:59.560 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 6>That was.

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>There are so many things you guys are mentioning that

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I have, Like I remember obviously Will being plays with squirrels.

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember the Beverly Glenn aspect of it. I have

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 2>no memory of anything related to the prank war. I

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>don't remember the bear. I vaguely remember the honey on

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>my head because I remember it being like this is

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>really hard to get out of my hair in the shower.

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I remember that. And then obviously I remember the desk falling. Yeah,

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>but I can't believe all these episodes are somehow interconnected episodes. Yeah,

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 2>so another episode we haven't gotten to, but I was

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>curious about what your memories are of it. What are

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>your memories of that very final episode of Boy Meets

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>World where we all had to say goodbye.

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 6>I remember going into the table read and everyone was

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 6>in tears like they were just everybody was really emotional

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 6>and uh, and it was it was I didn't know

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 6>how we would get through the week actually, and I

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 6>was a newer person, but still I was all emotional

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 6>about it, and it was a you know, it was

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 6>a big thing. It was, and for you guys, it

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 6>was like graduation day or thing, really big. And but

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 6>I remember you guys watching on the set the last

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 6>scene in the classroom, all four of you, Yeah, with

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 6>mister Peenie, and that was really Yeah, that was.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>That was but it was it was a difficult.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 4>We all got through it, though, we all we did barely,

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, that was tough.

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 2>So since then, you have written a memoir, My Escape

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>from Hollywood, and one of the things you mentioned in

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>it I did want to bring up is that you

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 2>tried on your wardrobe in front of the writers, which.

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 6>You guys didn't know that. No, well you wouldn't really

0:30:58.680 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 6>know that.

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, has none of none of us had to do that.

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 3>They did take photos of us.

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I remember absolutely, They would take polaroids and then those

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>polaroids got set.

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 6>They had to Well, it was a big deal. And

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 6>I've actually spoken with Michael at length about this and

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 6>better understanding. We're in a really good place that about that.

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.959
<v Speaker 6>But but they're Disney itself as a whole had you know,

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 6>a bunch of ideas and stuff of like how characters

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 6>should be and and how my character should be. And

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 6>I guess people wanted to put me in really like

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 6>skimpy lingerie.

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Who wanted you to be in really skim.

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm not exactly sure. I know le Yang like was

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 6>told that she know or she came was.

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Our wardrobe style, Yes, the costume designer.

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 6>You got to wear these little ones, these little it

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 6>was like slinky. It was like I couldn't believe that

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.239
<v Speaker 6>I was going to wear this on the show. And

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.239
<v Speaker 6>I guess Michael was like, no, she can't wear that,

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 6>she can't wear that. So basically I had a series

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 6>of wardrobe presentations different lingerie for everyone. It was like

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 6>the whole team was up there.

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean like everyone like writers and producers, writers.

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 6>Producers, writers, writers, writers, Yeah, and be like, come on,

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 6>we're going to go up to the office.

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Were there any women writers?

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 6>I guess yeah, there were, there were you that. Yeah,

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 6>so it was like all of them, but there was.

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 6>It was mostly men, it was back then, but still

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 6>it was like and yeah, I mean so I would

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 6>go and just try on different pieces of lingerie for

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 6>them to see what was going to be acceptable. What

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 6>was good? This is especially for the one where I

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 6>wore the you know, the dishwashing episode where I was like,

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 6>scrub a ub dub that stuff with.

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 3>No idea what you're talking about?

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 6>You guys, Yeah, I like to teach you a lesson.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 6>I had to get in my lingerie and say because

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 6>Danielle and Trina there were jealous.

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Wait, I think I just didn't say like post Trina

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>just posted the edit. Trina just posted the edit. Yes,

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 2>got it. I just saw that.

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you guys really, Oh the boys are so cute.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 6>Don't worry if they go through your stuff and look

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 6>at your underwear and read your tiring And I was

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 6>like they these people need to be taught a lesson.

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 6>So I got in my lingerie and danced around and

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 6>did the dishes and Ben was like, screw up it

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 6>up like.

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>And then we get mad at them, and the girls.

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 6>Were like, oh, we see what's wrong now you can't

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 6>you know? I get your point.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So for that episode, in order to figure out

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>what you were going to wear, you were you had

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 2>so at least for that episode, So it wasn't like

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 2>the several There were several episodes.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 6>Where this was a question. But I just remember that

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 6>one was a repeated visit to the office. Okay, and finally,

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean the outfit. It was respectable that you know,

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 6>but because originally some of the outfits Julie had were

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 6>like right and like little pieces. It was I don't

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 6>know how Disney would have allowed this to.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>It never would have happened. It never would have been

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 2>on Friday night at eight thirty that you were going

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>to wear anything that revealing.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I just.

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 4>Want to know why all of a sudden, polaroids were

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 4>no longer acceptable.

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 6>I had to be seen, They had to see how

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 6>when I moved it would like, you know, show too much.

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 2>And then you weren't even changing in a bathroom. You

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 2>wrote that you were changing like behind a thin curtain

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.240
<v Speaker 2>where they could then see your silhouette as you changed.

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was like because there wasn't any like real

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 6>bathroom area, it was just the wardrobe kind of thing.

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, it was. It was pretty crazy. But again

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 6>back then I wasn't thinking, oh my god, I'm trying

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 6>on laundry. I was like, am I do I look

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 6>good enough? In this? Am I going to be and

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 6>enough for this? Are they gonna think enough.

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you feel like your job is on

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 2>the line. There's an entire storyline about whether about you

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>needing to hit the right chord of turning on the

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 2>men in the scene and yet also being covered up

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 2>enough that Friday night at eight thirty, families watching could

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 2>still see you in something that would be considered an outfit.

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 4>God, it's a weird balance that should never have occurred.

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 5>And the only way to determine that balance is for

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.720
<v Speaker 5>all the writers to go together to see in person

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 5>make it every time. Yeah, you can't just look at poloons.

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 5>We've got to get the whole team up there.

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:39.399
<v Speaker 6>Like I was, people were trying to pressure me to

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 6>like do things to keep my job or anything like that.

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.280
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't that, it was more like just the mindset

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 6>of that time. Sure, yeah, it just we just thought

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 6>everything was okay, you know then, and it wasn't even

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 6>like thought of.

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>And so when you talk to Michael, because you said

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 2>you talked to Michael and you guys are in a

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 2>really good place with it, what did Michael say about it?

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 6>Well, he's he says that he actually fought to have

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 6>more clothes on me because they brought stuff to him

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 6>that was like.

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Like the stuff you're saying, Julie Petty, And I'm.

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 6>Sure Disney was like, oh, we want this, you know,

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.760
<v Speaker 6>stuff to be like we wanted sexy or like certain

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 6>people did. I don't have the names of the people

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.479
<v Speaker 6>that said here, we need to have this this certain

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 6>outfit like this, but yeah, I think there was like

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 6>three wardrobe tests for this because it kept like we

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 6>kept needing more coverage.

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I mean I don't I don't know that

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Disney's really known as being like the sexy company.

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 5>So they were the network was really fighting to be

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 5>r rated on Friday nights, and Michael likely stepped in that.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 3>He was really between the mouse and you. It was

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 3>only Michael trying to throw himself on the Yeah.

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So you retire from mainstream Hollywood in around

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and seven, is that right?

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 6>Ah? Yes, I stepped away because I was like, I

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 6>was just tired of being type cast in you know,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 6>the roles of when I was younger, and I did

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 6>get a lot early on, and then you know, like

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:13.959
<v Speaker 6>after I did We's World, I was in White Chicks,

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 6>which is a whole other cult kind of phenomenon, which

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 6>yes me. So after that and they got married, and

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to just step away and reevaluate who I

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 6>was and who I was as a performer and a

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 6>person and an actress and what I want.

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 2>What kind of roles did you feel like you were

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 2>getting type cast into?

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 6>They just wanted to grow me up into being like

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 6>the soccer mom, or like to be like the girl

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 6>next door. I know it's like or just I was

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 6>only allowed to play like a certain type of you know,

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 6>family comedy type of situation, or they'd only see me

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 6>as that, especially as time went on and I didn't

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 6>I couldn't play anything really like dramatic, or I couldn't

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 6>play things like it. Definitely couldn't play anything really provocative

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 6>or anything. I mean, yeah, cute, see sexy, like yes,

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 6>but not like like really deep storylines or anything like that.

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 6>And also I wanted to create like my own stuff too,

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 6>So I went away. We moved to New York actually

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 6>shortly after got married. I was able to really explore

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 6>myself there and I got into writing, and I started

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 6>getting into erotic writing. And then eventually I came back

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.879
<v Speaker 6>and went to UCLA for a couple of years for screenwriting,

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 6>and so I really felt like that was going to

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 6>be the thing that I was going to do. I

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 6>was going to like write a film and produce it

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 6>or something, sell my scripts or whatever. But then Girl

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 6>Meets World came around, and then all of the attention

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 6>went on that, and it was like all of the

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 6>attention and you guys know that. And then but that

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 6>really allowed me to you know, show my base who

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 6>I was, then to have fun with them on my terms,

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 6>and to do things that I wanted to do. And

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 6>that's where I really like built my whole brand and

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 6>base from that attention from social media and everything.

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Because okay, so when did you start doing cosplay? Because

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I remember, I remember you getting you getting a.

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Gut right around Girls World?

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 2>When did you start doing that?

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 4>You?

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Because you you got you made quite a name for

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 2>yourself when you started doing that. You were doing cosplays

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 2>either Supergirl or Princess Leah, right, I was doing all.

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. The first one that I did was Slave Lea,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 6>which is the you know job of the Hut where

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 6>she was hl bikini, Yes, gold bikini, that's it. Yeah.

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 6>So I did that and it got a ton of

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 6>attention and it's funny because at first I always loved

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 6>dressing up doing comic con kind of stuff. I loved

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 6>comic book stuff, and so I just did it on

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, women edited. A premiere photographer said to me,

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.320
<v Speaker 6>you know me, the fourth is coming up. Why don't

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 6>you dress up as slave Lea. I have like an

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 6>authentic costume, because you had a lot of authentic costumes.

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 6>And so I said, okay, yeah, that'd be fun to

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 6>do on social media or on Instagram or whatever.

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>And you had never done cosplay before.

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 6>I had done it, but not like it was only

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 6>for fun, Like I didn't think I could have any

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 6>sort of you know, career at it or anything.

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 2>And then a photographer at a premiere mentions to you,

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I have a costume. You should wear it for me

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the fourth okay.

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 6>And so and this was yeah, so I So I

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 6>did it just you know, and we released the pictures

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 6>and everything just to the press, you know, showing you know,

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 6>and all my Instagram and everything, and it went crazy.

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 6>People just went like nuts over these costume photos. And

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 6>then that like branched out into other things and I

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 6>did so many costumes and cosplay and I had so

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 6>much fun with that and I was like, wow, I

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 6>can really like do well with this something that I

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 6>just thought was just something fun that I did on the.

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Side or.

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 6>And so that was really me starting to build my

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 6>brand and my name and doing what, like what I

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.720
<v Speaker 6>want the kind of stuff that I wanted to do. Okay,

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 6>and then it evolved from there.

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you start doing cosplay, You decide to start

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 2>doing cosplay around the time that Girl Meets World comes out.

0:40:58.320 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of attention on Girl Meets World. You

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 2>see an opportunity to use that attention to do these

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 2>photos and to start making a name and a brand

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>for yourself off of that kind of that wave of

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, relevancy I guess with it being in

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the news again. So then what is the transition from

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 2>there into becoming a high profile performer in the adult

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 2>entertainment industry.

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 6>Oh it was a long It was a long spam.

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 6>First of all, I did all of my cosplay and everything,

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 6>and I made, you know, a good money and brand

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 6>at that. But I was like thinking, I want to

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 6>explore myself. I want to do more I want and

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 6>I had done all this erotic writing and scripts, so

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 6>I was like, well, maybe I can do like, you know,

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 6>an erotic script where I can kind of you know,

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 6>I could play with that. But honestly, I kept getting

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 6>kicked off of social media for like two sexier photos.

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 6>That's a big issue. Like I had been doing this

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 6>for like I guess it had been like a year,

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 6>two three, No, it's been a little while. I did

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.479
<v Speaker 6>this for quite a while, I'd say like four years

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:02.240
<v Speaker 6>or so, okay, or I even like thought about selling

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.959
<v Speaker 6>like anything like sexual or anything. But I kept getting

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 6>kicked off for like sexy photos. But they weren't even

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 6>like nudes. They were just like sexy. You could see

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 6>a nipple like through the you know the why they

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 6>were Instagram would just kick you off. So I was like,

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 6>this is making me mad. And my fans were like, well,

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 6>why don't you sell content? And I didn't know what

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 6>that was content? What does that mean? They go go

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 6>on and like sell your pictures and stuff. And I

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 6>was like people would want to see like sexy cosplay photos,

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.879
<v Speaker 6>like they'd buy them actually, And so I just said, oh,

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 6>you know what, I'm going to start a Patreon page

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 6>and I want to say, you know, I'll have kind

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 6>of sexy maybe Playboy esque type photos because I play

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 6>with that and I was interested in that, and so

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 6>I just kind of put it up one night and

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 6>I you know, didn't tell anybody about it. And the

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 6>next morning I was like, I had twenty subscribers, and

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 6>I was like, I didn't even mention it. So I

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 6>mentioned it on my social media and by the end

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 6>of the week, I was the number one adult creator

0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 6>on Patreon, and I was it was making loads of mine.

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 6>I had loads of fans on there, and I was like,

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 6>what on earth. I could not believe that all of

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 6>like my stuff on social media and all of my

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 6>fan base that I had accumulated there was like coming

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 6>along to this.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something you had been giving away for free. Someone

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, you should be charging us for.

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 3>This, knowing is it?

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm curious, is it? Were these just photos at the time?

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 4>How does it start on Patreon? Are they just photos?

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Videos or just photographic?

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 6>So, like I was going to go into like I

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 6>had never done fully like nude stuff, so this was

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 6>going to be a new thing. It was going to

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 6>take like you know, sexy cosplay photos. At first, yeah,

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 6>video or something, But then I was like, oh, I

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 6>just want I want to try this maybe I could

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 6>do like a little girl's slumber party setup I could

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 6>do and it just kind of evolved from there. And

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 6>it was funny because I did a setup where I

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 6>had it was International Kiss a Ginger Day and that

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 6>is day, and it actually just passed and I don't

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 6>think I fully recognized it in the most appropriate way.

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I didn't recognize it at all this so

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:05.240
<v Speaker 6>I really should. But so a friend of mine knew

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 6>like a lesbian porn star, this redhead who would do

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 6>the shoot with me where you just kissed lah lah.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 6>It was it was well, it got more sexy than that,

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 6>I mean in our shots and everything, and it just

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 6>kind of evolved. And she said to me, she's a

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 6>very cute girl. She's like, you're going to do something

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:24.919
<v Speaker 6>in the adult business. I know that. And I said,

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 6>what she says, you're just not nervous at anything. I

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 6>swear you're going to do something. And I thought, I

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 6>kind of like, now, these were just sexy photos. It

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 6>was nothing like, you know, like that. But as she

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 6>was right, like, I had just evolved from there and

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 6>I just found that I not only loved like sexual

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 6>performing and just this kind of eroticism and ex just

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 6>I just really did enjoyed it and it was weird

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 6>because I just fell natural to it. And I've actually

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 6>done way more deep acting scripts now than I did

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 6>in Hollywood, so that I do. I have like three

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 6>page monologues in sometimes.

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Do you still do you write them?

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 6>I work with actually a female director. I do write

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 6>some of them, yes, And I'm able to create some

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 6>of my ow stuff. I'm actually working on something right

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 6>now that I'm creating and written a script for. I

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 6>work with a female director who is like the numb

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 6>top female director in the adult space, and she wins,

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.720
<v Speaker 6>you know, all the awards and everything. And by happenstance,

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:32.359
<v Speaker 6>I happened to meet her and we came together on

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 6>doing a film, and it was because just randomly she

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 6>was trying to get a film together, because she had

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 6>the same vision as me, to bring together like really

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 6>great acting and directing and hot sex and to make

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:47.399
<v Speaker 6>real films out of this, because I think people get

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:50.280
<v Speaker 6>the idea, oh porn, I don't make like silly stuff

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 6>like sure with it, but these are like serious films

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 6>and that would take a lot of time and care

0:45:56.680 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 6>to put together. And so had the same vision as me. Well,

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 6>she was trying to get this film together and she ended,

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 6>it's hard to find really like good actors, and in

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 6>porn there are there, there are good actors in it,

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 6>but they're you know, a lot of them. And she

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 6>lost one of her leads for this movie that she

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 6>was in and somebody said, get Maitland. She's like exploding

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 6>in her own her adult space, and she didn't even

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 6>quite know of us, but then she did because she

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 6>did watch Points World, like growing up and stuff. But

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 6>so all of a sudden, like we were together making

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 6>this this lengthy film together, and that's what really exploded

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 6>on the Internet, and that's when everybody saw the news

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 6>that Rachel does porn. Bernie Sanders heart attack that day

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:44.959
<v Speaker 6>with the Google searches. Yeah so, but it's crazy because

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 6>people like, oh, you know a lot of people do

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 6>it for like a sex tape or they try to

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 6>get attention off of it.

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this was five years ago that I did that.

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 6>So it's been a lucrative, exciting, just you know, great

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.800
<v Speaker 6>time for I mean, I've really been able to build

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 6>my brand in my name and like just do so

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 6>much of what I want and have so much success

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 6>of it.

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Are you the first person to make the jump from

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:14.959
<v Speaker 2>like mainstream acting into the adult entertainment industry?

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, in this way, yes, Okay, I believe so in

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 6>this way to go the opposite, some people go the

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 6>other way, right, right, But yes, I believe I'm the

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 6>only one to like have a legitimate career and win

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:28.879
<v Speaker 6>legitimate awards and.

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, then become yeah, and then go into adult entertainment. Yeah, okay.

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 2>So what are people's reactions inside the industry, both in

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the like, let's say, mainstream industry. What are the reactions

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 2>to people you having this career shift.

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:45.840
<v Speaker 6>You know what? I think at first people were shocked,

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 6>But I get so much more respect now that I

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 6>it's it's you wouldn't believe it, like just saying it, Oh,

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 6>somebody went into porn and they're getting all this respect,

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 6>but I am. And I think it's because they can

0:47:58.080 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 6>see that I'm really happy at what I do, and

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:03.240
<v Speaker 6>I'm I'm really like I've chosen this path and I'm

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 6>making productions that I want to make, and I'm trying

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 6>to like create new kind of a new genre in

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 6>space for porn because I really think it's I really

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 6>think it should be like another genre on to itself,

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 6>not the silly porn, but like the films that I'm

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 6>making and stuff. I think it's you know, it's an

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 6>adult genre and it should be treated with you know,

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.800
<v Speaker 6>respect in that way. But I get people like, especially

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 6>if you're under like forty, I would say people like

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.839
<v Speaker 6>that are like so open to it. They are knowing

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.879
<v Speaker 6>they grew up with you know, their formative years. They

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 6>porn was a part of their lives. It's not a

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 6>scary space. I think the older people are a little

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 6>more you know, they think it's like boogie nights, so

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 6>just this wild orgy all the time. And I think

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:57.279
<v Speaker 6>people don't understand how much time and effort is put

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 6>into this stuff and all like the testing we have

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 6>to do, the paperwork, the consent, all of this stuff.

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like so sexy.

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's so much.

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 2>The testing and the papers wild. Can you tell us

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe what one of the most surprising things that you

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 2>learned when you went into the adult entertainment industry.

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 6>I'd say that it is a lot like mainstream the

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 6>sets and everything, like, it's not different.

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 2>It's just people you have a gum wall. Wait, you

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 2>have a gum wall.

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 7>It's it's oh god, I I was surprised to know

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 7>that there is a lube guy that comes in and like, you.

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Know, wait, what is wait? What is the lube guy?

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And how does Ryder get this?

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 6>It's so disinterested people think on the set like everybody's

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 6>oh my god, they're.

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 4>Oil, ma'am.

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 6>Nobody cares, yes, like like sometimes they'll just yell out

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:05.040
<v Speaker 6>what the dick because it has to look it has

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 6>to look moist, right, yes, you know, New Merch. I

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 6>wanted to tell you what it's like to get.

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Wait, finish that sentence.

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 2>You won't tell us what it's like to get what.

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 6>You get measured for like a flashlight that.

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I have, Oh my god.

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 6>The lubricant and the toys and everything. Yeah, that's all

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 6>I have to say. I don't know much I could say.

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry.

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear anything after what the dick?

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 2>What the dick? Writers saying New Merch Merch? God, can I.

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 4>Ask when when you're making these films, because I know

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 4>there's there's nobly different sections. You're you're shooting a film,

0:50:57.560 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 4>you're just shooting a film, and then there's probably you're

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:00.839
<v Speaker 4>doing the sex. Was it is a whole different part

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 4>than actually shooting the film exactly. Is are you mostly

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 4>really into it or is it an acting job and

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 4>you're kind of actually it's more technical than it is

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 4>anything else, or is it Is there a passion to

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 4>it when you're in the moment.

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 6>No, there's definitely a passion to it, and I'm in it,

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 6>especially if you have a really like good partner. I

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:23.239
<v Speaker 6>always equate it to like being dance partners or like

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 6>some sort of ice skating pair like I'm you know somebody,

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:28.840
<v Speaker 6>or even an acting partner that's like so good and

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 6>you have that passion and that connection in that moment,

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 6>and I really feel like, you know, porn is such

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.840
<v Speaker 6>a safe space for me to explore all of my

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 6>like desires and you know, my fantasies with a safe

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 6>group of people that are professionals. They're tested, they know

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 6>the lines. You know, you have consent and all this stuff,

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 6>so I can really just let myself go. You're definitely

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.359
<v Speaker 6>gonna have more chemistry with some people than others. True,

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.720
<v Speaker 6>Just like any actor, it's always you know, when anybody

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:02.959
<v Speaker 6>says to me, oh, I'm such a fan of Boy

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 6>Meets World, I'm always like, it's either really hit or

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 6>really missed with that because you know, they either get

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:11.279
<v Speaker 6>really nervous and there's a lot of.

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:16.439
<v Speaker 4>Oh you mean when you one of your partner, oh god,

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 4>oh okay, Oh yeah no.

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:22.240
<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of fans of Boyet's world in porn,

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:25.400
<v Speaker 6>and they're that age group too, where like really that

0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 6>was a big show for them too, So man, yeah,

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 6>so it's either great, like they're super excited or they're like, you.

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Know, now, how was?

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 2>How was?

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 4>I have to imagine you have to be amazingly secure

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 4>in your relationship to do something like this because you've

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 4>been with the same guy since we were on boy

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:46.399
<v Speaker 4>So how I mean, how does your husband handle your job?

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 6>He's so incredibly supportive of it. And I think it's

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:53.319
<v Speaker 6>because we it's been such a long journey. People think

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 6>that overnight I just said, you know what, I'm gonna

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 6>go do porn, But it wasn't. It was first of all,

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 6>it was that whole lengthy journey of my self discovery

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:04.800
<v Speaker 6>personally and then with like my Patreon account and everything

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:09.040
<v Speaker 6>before I even ever did like professional Born, So it

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 6>was like baby steps along the way. But we are

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 6>so secure in our relationship and also I have like

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 6>erotic fantasies that he's not able to like gang bangs

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 6>or like all these sort of like you know, BDSM

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 6>kind of things that I want to try. I'm not

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.360
<v Speaker 6>able to do it like with him, which is fine,

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.319
<v Speaker 6>But in this like adult space, I'm able to do

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 6>these things safely, and you know, I just get to

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:38.360
<v Speaker 6>explore and live them out. But then I get to

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 6>come home to my intimate relationship, you know, with my husband.

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:45.279
<v Speaker 6>So it's separate, really separate. And there are a lot

0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 6>of relationships in the adult industry. A lot of people

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:50.440
<v Speaker 6>who work together in the adult industries because they know

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 6>about the industry and so they understand. But I think

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 6>people would be surprised to know how many like families

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 6>are in there, like how many you know, people are

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:02.600
<v Speaker 6>married with kids and and I have lived very very

0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 6>normal lives. I think everything you see that is wild.

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 6>We're like living on the set, so right, Like I'm

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:11.360
<v Speaker 6>not out on Saturday night like trying to you know,

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 6>find gang bangs. I do that on Monday morning.

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Time. Yeah, oh man.

0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 6>But then the worst is I have one time had

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 6>to do like all of this dialogue in the day

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:28.839
<v Speaker 6>and we had this huge orgy scene which are the.

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Four Everyone knows those two things.

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 6>All those people having together like this, all these people

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:37.279
<v Speaker 6>are having to like you know.

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like the Scream episode for us, everybody trying to.

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:44.400
<v Speaker 6>Keep Yeah, it's like film a wedding scene. You have

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 6>all these people and everything. I swear we shop for

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 6>twenty four hours. Oh god, the sex all the way,

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 6>but just the getting it together and like you know,

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:57.400
<v Speaker 6>shooting all the there was a big acting portion. There

0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:00.360
<v Speaker 6>were snakes in it at one point. Yeah, it was

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:04.160
<v Speaker 6>my god, these are elaborate setups.

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.800
<v Speaker 4>My ironically still covered in honey and in front of

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 4>a bear.

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:11.879
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, different type bear.

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:19.479
<v Speaker 2>But okay, So jumping ahead, jumping ahead to around the time,

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:22.839
<v Speaker 2>let's say twenty twenty two, and we start the we

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:26.240
<v Speaker 2>start our podcast, pod meets World. Maybe a more broad

0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 2>general question for you is, uh, do you hate us?

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 6>No? I don't you. Okay, I think that you hate

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 6>me because you wouldn't speak to me on when we

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:41.520
<v Speaker 6>would go to Groomy's world and everything, and that's hurtful.

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:43.759
<v Speaker 2>That was way I wouldn't speak to you.

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 6>I did talk to you, No, not really, not really

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 6>unfriended me on Facebook.

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I did not unfriend you on Facebook. I don't know.

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I truly don't know how that happened. And when you

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:00.440
<v Speaker 2>went public and said that you had sent me a

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:04.520
<v Speaker 2>message on Facebook around the time that I got married

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the first time by twenty thirteen, Yes, you sent it

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 2>to Will. You told Will I sent Danielle this message.

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 2>She didn't respond to me. I am not a Facebook person.

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I barely ever use Facebook. As a matter of fact.

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:22.319
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I do on Facebook is now that

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Instagram allows you to post the things you post on

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Instagram on Facebook. I have that toggle on so whatever

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:30.799
<v Speaker 2>I post on Instagram goes to Facebook. But otherwise I

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 2>don't even go on Facebook. So when I heard that,

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:36.759
<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, my gosh, did not know that. I

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:40.239
<v Speaker 2>then went into my Facebook page saw that we were

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 2>not friends. Was like, didn't remember when we were friends

0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 2>on Facebook or when we were no longer friends on Facebook.

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Found your message in the graveyard of messages that your

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.880
<v Speaker 2>messages go to, and I then felt very bad. I

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:56.839
<v Speaker 2>felt like, oh, man, you did send me a really

0:56:56.920 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 2>nice message. You had said, congratulations on your engagement, congratulations

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:03.799
<v Speaker 2>on Girl meets World. It was very sweet, and so

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:06.839
<v Speaker 2>I said to Will, will you please ask Maitland if

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I could have her phone number so that I could

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 2>apologize to her, and you wrote back to Will, No,

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 2>let's just save it for the podcast. It'll be great

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 2>for the ratings.

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:22.919
<v Speaker 6>The ratings, I think. Okay, I get out on the podcast. Okay,

0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 6>someting they talk about, you know.

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe, I believe the official quote was rock the

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 2>stats but also.

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:31.920
<v Speaker 6>The and I thought the podcast was going to be

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:34.320
<v Speaker 6>like next week. Back then it was that you guys

0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 6>were just going to start out, So it was I

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 6>thought it was going.

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:38.240
<v Speaker 2>To happen like right away, right away. I got it.

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 6>But honestly, no, you did not speak to me on

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 6>the set of Girl Mats World except.

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 2>For hi, Okay, yeah.

0:57:44.840 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 6>I mean I have no pictures with you or anything

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 6>on that side like a Girl Meets World. And I thought,

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 6>because you know, you were at my wedding and everything,

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 6>and I thought we were friends.

0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 2>And then it was just like, wait, what year did

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:54.560
<v Speaker 2>you get married?

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 6>Again?

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what year.

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 6>I was in six at the end.

0:57:57.520 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, so I do remember when I got the

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 2>invitation to your wed and I was really I had

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 2>was it came out of nowhere because we hadn't really

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 2>spoken since Boy Meets World had ended. So Boyle's World

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 2>ended in two thousand and then you get married in

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six, and I was like, oh my gosh,

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 2>how nice is that.

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:11.440
<v Speaker 1>That I got it?

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 2>And I remember talking to my mom about it. Oh

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 2>my gosh. Maitland invited me to her wedding, and I thought, oh, fun,

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 2>we're going to have like a boy I'm sure it's

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:20.320
<v Speaker 2>going to be a Boy meets World reunion because I

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 2>expect you and I hadn't spoken, so I thought if

0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I was invited, everyone else was probably going to be invited.

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:27.000
<v Speaker 2>And then it was. It was me and Michael and

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:28.680
<v Speaker 2>it was great to see Michael. I hadn't seen Michael

0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 2>in a long time either.

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 6>And Ben's family and d ed Yes.

0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 2>So there were so there was a little little Boy

0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Meets World review.

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:42.000
<v Speaker 6>I did not know they were at that time. Literally,

0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 6>so it was two thousand and six on social media. No,

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 6>I've like, I didn't I had your email or whatever. Okay,

0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 6>information probably from probably from d D.

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 2>D D would make sense, yes, because Dede and I

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 2>have been in touch ever since, so through d D. Okay,

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 2>So I just remember being really excited. It was very sweet.

0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:00.880
<v Speaker 2>We went. We took a really beautiful photo at your wedding.

0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 2>You looked so gorgeous. Your wedding was gorgeous.

0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:04.480
<v Speaker 6>It was a.

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Really beautiful, beautiful day. Yes, and then you got married

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and six, and we never spoke again.

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I went to your wedding, we didn't really and we

0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 2>never spoke again.

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:18.080
<v Speaker 6>But I don't looked to them either. And I saw

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 6>them on the Girl Meets World set and you guys

0:59:19.760 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 6>bear hugged me and oh, you know, great to see you.

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 3>After we were working.

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was working. I was down.

0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:29.400
<v Speaker 6>I had an attitude about it though, because I know

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 6>there was some beef between us because I and I

0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 6>didn't get it, and maybe I picked up the wrong signals,

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 6>but definitely there was some sort of like weirdness there.

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:40.840
<v Speaker 2>And so what did you think it was?

0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 6>I didn't know at all. I didn't I didn't know

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 6>if you thought that I was trying to like come

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.600
<v Speaker 6>onto the set and like take over or something, not takeover,

0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 6>but you know, like try to steal attention or something

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:55.240
<v Speaker 6>and like, but I didn't know. I really was very

0:59:55.480 --> 1:00:00.480
<v Speaker 6>genuinely confused why we wouldn't be good, don't.

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel as though I was not good with you,

1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 2>but I definitely didn't have a relationship with you that

1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:12.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my gosh, my long lost friend Mayland.

1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I was working. It was a very very difficult set

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:25.160
<v Speaker 2>that in those those three years were you know, the memories.

1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's put it this way, the memories we have of

1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 2>the fun set of Boy Meets World were not the

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:35.960
<v Speaker 2>memories or the fun set of Girl Meets World. It

1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:40.880
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't. And I went into it hoping it was

1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 2>going to be. I went into it expecting it to be,

1:00:45.040 --> 1:00:50.680
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't. It was a rather tumultuous place. It

1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:59.160
<v Speaker 2>was a place I felt very ostracized. I felt very criticized.

1:00:59.400 --> 1:01:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I felt a lot of different things being on that

1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:11.080
<v Speaker 2>set that was not the set of Danielle being care

1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:16.480
<v Speaker 2>free and running around shaking hands and kissing babies. So

1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:20.240
<v Speaker 2>I am sorry that you thought I had something personally

1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:21.520
<v Speaker 2>against you.

1:01:21.800 --> 1:01:23.920
<v Speaker 6>Listen, I mean you didn't like the fact that I

1:01:23.960 --> 1:01:26.080
<v Speaker 6>was getting a lot of attention at that time and

1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 6>going off in my own space and taking away like that.

1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Attention I was on the cover of Maxim in two

1:01:35.600 --> 1:01:39.640
<v Speaker 2>thousand that I definitely want you for that. But but

1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't in any way upset. I didn't think you were.

1:01:44.720 --> 1:01:45.120
<v Speaker 4>I was to.

1:01:46.680 --> 1:01:48.400
<v Speaker 6>Know why you were upset. That's what I mean. I

1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:49.960
<v Speaker 6>didn't know why you were. That's only what I do.

1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:53.720
<v Speaker 2>You just told me right now why I was upset.

1:01:53.840 --> 1:01:56.640
<v Speaker 2>You were saying before you didn't know why I was

1:01:56.720 --> 1:02:00.959
<v Speaker 2>upset for sure. Just now you just I said you

1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:03.520
<v Speaker 2>were what I thought maybe that's what you guessed. Then

1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:04.520
<v Speaker 2>that's what you're saying.

1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:07.600
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I was thinking maybe maybe she's Yeah.

1:02:07.640 --> 1:02:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Back then, I'm like, got it. I thought you were

1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:11.080
<v Speaker 2>saying that now that that's what it was, and I

1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:12.200
<v Speaker 2>was like, okay.

1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 6>I'm so interesting that was when you is she mad at?

1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:16.400
<v Speaker 3>That is she?

1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:16.920
<v Speaker 6>You know?

1:02:17.360 --> 1:02:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Got it? And that absolutely in every experience we have

1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:26.280
<v Speaker 2>had on this show where people have finally talked about

1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:30.080
<v Speaker 2>things that have never been talked about in the twenty

1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:32.439
<v Speaker 2>or thirty years since they've happened, or ten or twenty

1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:35.920
<v Speaker 2>years since they've happened, when it then comes up, every

1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:38.680
<v Speaker 2>single time, there's a reveal which is like, oh, you

1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:41.600
<v Speaker 2>know what, I made this a personal thing. I thought

1:02:41.600 --> 1:02:45.360
<v Speaker 2>it was about this, and we go, oh, and here's

1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:47.320
<v Speaker 2>what was going on. For you and for you and

1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:49.520
<v Speaker 2>for you and for you. So that makes sense. And

1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that you thought it was about you or

1:02:52.520 --> 1:02:56.640
<v Speaker 2>anything you were doing. I didn't. I, like I said,

1:02:56.720 --> 1:02:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I did Maximum in twenty fourteen, and it wasn't until

1:02:59.560 --> 1:03:02.200
<v Speaker 2>after I did the cover of MAXIM that I realized

1:03:02.640 --> 1:03:05.080
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't for me. I didn't like it. I didn't

1:03:05.080 --> 1:03:06.400
<v Speaker 2>like the way it made me feel. You and I

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:11.880
<v Speaker 2>actually have totally different and both perfectly valid experiences with that,

1:03:12.160 --> 1:03:15.320
<v Speaker 2>where you have grown into it and embraced it and

1:03:15.360 --> 1:03:17.800
<v Speaker 2>it is awoken a part of you you didn't know existed,

1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:21.919
<v Speaker 2>and you feel empowered by it. I had that one

1:03:21.960 --> 1:03:26.000
<v Speaker 2>experience and felt the exact opposite, but I didn't know.

1:03:26.200 --> 1:03:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that was my feeling until after I

1:03:28.640 --> 1:03:32.000
<v Speaker 2>did it. So we've just had two totally different journeys

1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:35.360
<v Speaker 2>in that, and they're both valid and neither of them wrong.

1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:38.840
<v Speaker 2>And then there have been other You know, it seems

1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:41.920
<v Speaker 2>like almost any time the podcast is in the news

1:03:42.000 --> 1:03:45.600
<v Speaker 2>in the press, there's a quickly followed up TMZ interview

1:03:45.760 --> 1:03:46.040
<v Speaker 2>with you.

1:03:46.800 --> 1:03:48.600
<v Speaker 6>If everybody's interested, Yeah, they always.

1:03:48.400 --> 1:03:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Want to know how do those happen, by the way.

1:03:50.720 --> 1:03:52.520
<v Speaker 6>Because they come and get me, they find me on

1:03:52.560 --> 1:03:53.080
<v Speaker 6>the streets.

1:03:53.520 --> 1:03:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, yeah, I've I've never. I don't know

1:03:58.440 --> 1:03:59.960
<v Speaker 2>if I've ever been found on the street.

1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:01.840
<v Speaker 3>You don't hang out enough in West Hollywood.

1:04:02.200 --> 1:04:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's West Hollywood.

1:04:05.320 --> 1:04:07.680
<v Speaker 6>Amusing you or are trying to me of something?

1:04:07.720 --> 1:04:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Because I know, I'm just wondering. They've never, they've never,

1:04:10.560 --> 1:04:13.080
<v Speaker 2>They've never stopped me outside of my house, or never have.

1:04:13.120 --> 1:04:14.840
<v Speaker 6>Stopped me outside of my house.

1:04:15.560 --> 1:04:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know where they're stopping you. I was

1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:19.800
<v Speaker 2>just wondering because it hasn't.

1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:21.560
<v Speaker 6>Happened a big concern for you right now.

1:04:22.200 --> 1:04:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I was just curious because it seems as though every

1:04:25.640 --> 1:04:29.080
<v Speaker 2>time we've been in the news, shortly thereafter there's an

1:04:29.120 --> 1:04:32.400
<v Speaker 2>interview with you on TMZ sharing yours because they want

1:04:32.400 --> 1:04:33.120
<v Speaker 2>to know the subject.

1:04:33.160 --> 1:04:35.280
<v Speaker 6>They want to know so many news outlets want to

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<v Speaker 6>know stuff. Okay, So I think there's a divide to

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<v Speaker 6>because you guys hate Ben and you guys hate Michael.

1:04:42.360 --> 1:04:45.959
<v Speaker 2>We I don't hate Ben or Michael like you guys

1:04:46.000 --> 1:04:49.760
<v Speaker 2>have not hate either of them, not hate.

1:04:49.760 --> 1:04:51.640
<v Speaker 6>Hate It is a strong word. I'm not mean hate,

1:04:51.680 --> 1:04:52.120
<v Speaker 6>but like.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, and that's one of the most important people

1:04:55.680 --> 1:04:58.160
<v Speaker 4>I've ever met in my life, and I can't stand

1:04:58.160 --> 1:04:59.520
<v Speaker 4>the fact that he won't speak to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I fe the same way he won't speak to us. Correct.

1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:07.160
<v Speaker 4>I can show you the the last three years literally

1:05:07.200 --> 1:05:08.960
<v Speaker 4>of messages and in the middle of.

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<v Speaker 1>A conversation, I wish that, just wish.

1:05:12.800 --> 1:05:13.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he been ben absolutely one day woke up and

1:05:15.840 --> 1:05:18.560
<v Speaker 4>said I don't want will in my life and never

1:05:18.680 --> 1:05:19.360
<v Speaker 4>told me why.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I don't know the history of any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you don't. Again, is my question. Do you listen

1:05:25.840 --> 1:05:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you listen to our podcast? Because you did then

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<v Speaker 2>go in on one of the TMZ articles and say

1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that our podcast is very negative and we say all

1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:34.320
<v Speaker 2>kinds of negative.

1:05:35.400 --> 1:05:37.320
<v Speaker 6>There was a lot of negative stuff that came.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of that pot.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you listen to the podcast?

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<v Speaker 6>No, not regularly, but I do listen to the big

1:05:41.480 --> 1:05:43.480
<v Speaker 6>shows in the past, but the beginning, at the beginning,

1:05:43.480 --> 1:05:45.960
<v Speaker 6>I have listened to it that much recently. But I

1:05:45.960 --> 1:05:48.520
<v Speaker 6>don't understand why this is like a grilling session right now.

1:05:48.760 --> 1:05:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Not a grilling session. I'm just asking questions. These are

1:05:51.080 --> 1:05:53.680
<v Speaker 2>things you said on TMZ, So I'm just curious because

1:05:54.040 --> 1:05:56.600
<v Speaker 2>we have that we have not felt as though we

1:05:56.680 --> 1:06:00.360
<v Speaker 2>have said anything negative the same way you wrote your

1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:05.560
<v Speaker 2>birth about your experiences doesn't mean that they're negative. They're

1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:09.560
<v Speaker 2>they're just experiences. Me sharing my story that Michael told

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<v Speaker 2>me in a note session that I needed to show

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<v Speaker 2>up the next day and do it entirely different, the

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<v Speaker 2>same exact way you shared your story at the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of this podcast, where you said he told you your

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<v Speaker 2>audition needed to be entirely different the next day.

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<v Speaker 6>Because really he was looking out for me to get

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<v Speaker 6>the role right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he did to me. He wanted from then

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<v Speaker 2>he gave me a thing. That's what he would say.

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<v Speaker 2>His argument was, he gave me notes about how he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted me to do it the next day. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>did it the next day, and then he gave me

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<v Speaker 2>a standing ovation. That's the story I told. We had

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<v Speaker 2>a guest on who who then said his experience and

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<v Speaker 2>got very upset and but so I just don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where you're the one who said it. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want, if you want to not stand by it,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine too. But what has been so negative about

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>Things that have come out of the talking about the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, then I don't know why you can't name any.

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<v Speaker 6>Of them, anything to do with Michael and anything anything

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<v Speaker 6>to do with all of that. I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>even saying I'm not telling you what's right and wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm saying negative about the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't listen to the podcast regularly, but your

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<v Speaker 2>overall opinion of it is that we are negative about

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<v Speaker 2>Michael and Ben and the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Be honest about this. You're trying to go with me

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<v Speaker 6>now to get the ratings because you know that people

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<v Speaker 6>will be interested in Maitland. I don't you, guys, I

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<v Speaker 6>just want maland remember good times.

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<v Speaker 2>O Maitland. Sorry, I'm not the one who wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go for ratings. I'm the one who texted Will to

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<v Speaker 2>ask for your phone number so that like adults, we

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<v Speaker 2>could have a conversation off the air. When you said

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<v Speaker 2>rock the stats, I realized, got it. This isn't someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's seeing an opportunity to again use this opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the ratings. So this is what you asked for.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to write you a text and say can

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about what our feelings are?

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<v Speaker 6>Genuous? You'd have to be reminded that you unfriended me

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<v Speaker 6>from Facebook and that after I wrote you a very

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<v Speaker 6>heartful letter and you know it was heartfelt.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I hadn't read it until I heard about

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<v Speaker 2>it in whatever year it was, twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you even care to look at it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it was in the graveyard. We weren't friends on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>We were not friends on Facebook. It didn't come to

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<v Speaker 2>my message. I hadn't read it until I was aware

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<v Speaker 2>it existed. So yes, but listen, all I'm saying is,

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<v Speaker 2>these are things I would have wanted to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you about, or we could have talked about had you

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<v Speaker 2>been willing to give me your phone number, but you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to save it to rock the stats. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>these are questions I had. If you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>answer them, you just don't have to answer them.

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<v Speaker 6>Have fun with you guys, and remember and just to

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<v Speaker 6>have good time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh now you want to only talk about the good times.

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<v Speaker 2>When runs into you randomly on the street, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>time when you want to drag our names through the mud.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it should all be about good times.

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<v Speaker 6>Mud.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is what you have done on multiple occasions, because.

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<v Speaker 6>You have done a lot of things that are very disingenuous.

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<v Speaker 2>We name them. Please name them please.

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<v Speaker 6>I am not getting on the show to be name them.

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<v Speaker 6>You go against Michael all the time, for.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what does go against Michael mean? Is Michael? What

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<v Speaker 2>does it mean? What does it mean to go against Michael?

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<v Speaker 6>But like saying, oh, he was just this guy who

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<v Speaker 6>just controlled us all and yes there were all sorts

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<v Speaker 6>of negative things that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I agreed, Oh okay, but you're not doing.

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<v Speaker 6>It just to get listens.

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<v Speaker 5>No, No, I'm talking like if I'm talking about Michael

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<v Speaker 5>yelling at me, and like that's my experience, right, Like

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<v Speaker 5>I was yelled at. I watched him do things I

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<v Speaker 5>can describe that.

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<v Speaker 6>That's absolutely I did too. I went up to the

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<v Speaker 6>laundering in front of everybody, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And you talked about it in your book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and that's not necessarily negative.

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<v Speaker 6>There's nothing wrong with that. There isn't talking. It is fine.

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<v Speaker 6>But is it negative? Yes, that's a negative thing about

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<v Speaker 6>the show. You talk a lot about negative things about

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<v Speaker 6>the show. That's negative. Like okay, but you guys, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>you have careers and lives because of that show? And

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<v Speaker 6>I realized I do too, And no matter what, we're

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<v Speaker 6>all going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be So is the price we pay for that silence

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<v Speaker 2>and only doting on the one of the people whose

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<v Speaker 2>response no, of course not.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't, of course not what your point is right now, Like,

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<v Speaker 6>of course we're going to talk about issues and stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>but I don't understand where you're going at me.

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<v Speaker 2>For this well, because again I mentioned why you've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it in the press multiple times, and when I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to ask.

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<v Speaker 6>For your phone to me on set that you ignored

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<v Speaker 6>my letters, that you yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And then when I tried to reach out to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Because genuous, it was ingenuous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's disingenuous to want to do it face to face

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<v Speaker 2>or via on the phone, but it's less disingenuous to

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<v Speaker 2>do we went to rock the stats on a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I said in the press. We obviously just feel very

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<v Speaker 2>differently about what being genuine is for me. Anytime, in

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<v Speaker 2>any aspect of my life, when someone has something that

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<v Speaker 2>they abone to pick with me, for lack of a

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<v Speaker 2>better word, I then make the effort to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to that person to have a conversation. My personal belief

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<v Speaker 2>is that there is probably nothing that can't be worked

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<v Speaker 2>out by talking and with honesty and saying okay, here

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<v Speaker 2>you want to know what was going on? Let me

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what was going on or what is your perspective?

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on this? And almost every single time.

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<v Speaker 3>Hm, wow, so you drop that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Maitland's left. Uh, I mean, for benefit of the doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>we will wait here, wait a few minutes and see

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<v Speaker 2>if she's going to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Seemed frozen. Yeah, it seemed. It seemed like a point

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<v Speaker 3>of calming and reconciliation more than a more conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it was a very like let's wrap this up.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, it's not gonna well, can you please text her

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<v Speaker 5>and see if that was purposeful?

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<v Speaker 3>This will be a fun text. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>that bad. You didn't do anything, and it just was

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<v Speaker 3>that purposeful.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she says, she's trying to get back on hold

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<v Speaker 1>on great.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Yeah, you know this is funny because you guys, Oh,

1:12:54.400 --> 1:12:57.360
<v Speaker 6>I saw you guys got there. My power just went out.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's exactly, it's a sign from God.

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<v Speaker 6>It just like went out.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the timing, the timing was pretty perfect, I the time,

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<v Speaker 4>pretty spectacular.

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<v Speaker 2>Your your power company has a sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's Michael outside, I'm plugging, I'm plugging our.

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<v Speaker 1>Sl Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I had left off was just in my experience.

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<v Speaker 2>My belief was that anytime somebody has a problem, I

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<v Speaker 2>prefer to have a dialogue about it personally. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been the type of person to air aggrievance with someone

1:13:42.200 --> 1:13:46.040
<v Speaker 2>in the press. And in your opinion, I guess you

1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:49.720
<v Speaker 2>felt like me wanting to reach out privately felt disingenuous,

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<v Speaker 2>which yes, because.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because you didn't do anything for all those years.

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<v Speaker 6>And do I believe you never saw it? Okay, but we.

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<v Speaker 2>Weren't friends on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 6>What I have seen it when fried me, okay, friends

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<v Speaker 6>when I sent that letter.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you think we were friends when you sent the note?

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<v Speaker 6>I think so because I saw you as my friend

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<v Speaker 6>to send it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But I mean I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I don't use Facebook, so I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what that means. Because I saw you as my friend

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<v Speaker 2>to send it to me. If you were thinking I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to send Danielle a message, I don't know what

1:14:22.439 --> 1:14:24.040
<v Speaker 2>it's like in Facebook, but you would just open a

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<v Speaker 2>message and then type my name, and my name would autofill.

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<v Speaker 2>So I that's what I did, did not Okay, But

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean I don't know when we were no

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<v Speaker 2>longer friends on Facebook. I had not seen you or

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<v Speaker 2>spoken to you since your wedding in two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 2>It was now twenty thirteen. I don't know when that happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Becoming friends was when you hit the button.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's what I'm asking, Danielle. Do you remember did

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<v Speaker 4>you ever purposely on a friend Maitland.

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<v Speaker 2>I never purposefully unfriended Maitland. I don't have memories of unfriending.

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<v Speaker 6>Memorial there, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. That that's true, valid point. But also it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like it's the first time anyone's ever heard of

1:15:06.360 --> 1:15:09.599
<v Speaker 2>random unfriendings on things. It's happened to me multiple times

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram, where I will look and see, oh my gosh,

1:15:12.640 --> 1:15:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm no longer following so and so, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>I did not unfriend them. I have to then go

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<v Speaker 2>back in and refollow people. That wouldn't have been the

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<v Speaker 2>first time that's ever happened. Is it possible that somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>between the time of two thousand I guess whatever, we

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<v Speaker 2>became friends on Facebook. I don't even I don't remember

1:15:29.080 --> 1:15:32.200
<v Speaker 2>when that happened either. Is it possible that somewhere over

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<v Speaker 2>the years of two thousand to twenty thirteen, I unfriended Maitland. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a memory of it. I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>had a real particular reason to do it unless I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, you know what, my Facebook has too

1:15:46.360 --> 1:15:49.759
<v Speaker 2>many friends. I'm going to on this person I don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk to I hadn't. I spoke to you and saw

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<v Speaker 2>you one time from two thousand.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't know why people I have not seen in years

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<v Speaker 6>on Facebook that I'm friends with. It's not exactly a

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<v Speaker 6>place where you have to be like intimately connected all

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<v Speaker 6>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, but people treat their Facebook as different things.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a possibility that's somewhere from two thousand to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, I went through and unfriended some people. Sure,

1:16:12.960 --> 1:16:14.400
<v Speaker 2>is it possible you were in one of those?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>What I know for sure is that I did not

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<v Speaker 2>see your message in twenty thirteen. I did not see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I wasn't aware it existed until you brought

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<v Speaker 2>it up, and then I went to go look for it.

1:16:28.240 --> 1:16:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Because I hadn't seen it. I was like, let's go

1:16:30.600 --> 1:16:32.720
<v Speaker 2>see what this note says. Let's see if I can

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<v Speaker 2>even find it and it was there in a graveyard.

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<v Speaker 2>I took a screenshot of it where it sat in

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<v Speaker 2>the graveyard, and I sent it to Will and then.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, yeah, in all fairness, I can I can

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<v Speaker 4>verify that she did write me and go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>she did a message.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right here.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you please reach out to her and see if

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<v Speaker 4>I cons When I heard that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said you sent me a message, I said, no, she didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get a message.

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<v Speaker 1>I can verify that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went and looked for it and I

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<v Speaker 2>found it. I was like, yeah, that was a very

1:17:01.320 --> 1:17:03.920
<v Speaker 2>nice message. I had never seen it. I'd love to

1:17:04.080 --> 1:17:06.160
<v Speaker 2>talk to her. Can I have her phone number? And

1:17:06.200 --> 1:17:09.040
<v Speaker 2>you said no? So I'm glad we're getting to talk

1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:11.479
<v Speaker 2>about it. I'm glad we had the opportunity to talk

1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:14.559
<v Speaker 2>about it. I will very honestly when your response was no,

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<v Speaker 2>let's save it for the podcast, it'll rock the stats

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>Will have told me the podcast is coming out right now,

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to put out a press release. Can we

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<v Speaker 6>put you in the press release? Can we do this?

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<v Speaker 6>It was going to happen like that, but oh wait,

1:17:27.320 --> 1:17:29.240
<v Speaker 6>all this time later and you haven't Adam alone you've

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<v Speaker 6>had every single other person on.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmmm, well no, we waited until well, no, I can

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<v Speaker 4>address that. So Trina came. The reason we had Trina

1:17:36.360 --> 1:17:38.240
<v Speaker 4>on earlier is because Trina came out and said some

1:17:38.320 --> 1:17:41.040
<v Speaker 4>things that had happened on the show and things we

1:17:41.040 --> 1:17:43.639
<v Speaker 4>wanted to address right away because some of them obviously

1:17:43.680 --> 1:17:46.120
<v Speaker 4>we had heard of, and some of them we had and.

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<v Speaker 2>Us, all of us had spoken on the phone. She

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<v Speaker 2>came on the podcast.

1:17:51.439 --> 1:17:53.080
<v Speaker 6>Trina didn't think you were friendly with her either.

1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I know, and Trina and I talked about it privately.

1:17:55.920 --> 1:17:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Trina knows exactly what happened, and I love Trina. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the years great.

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<v Speaker 4>But then it was and no, but then what happened

1:18:04.400 --> 1:18:07.240
<v Speaker 4>was we then realized as we were breaking down the show,

1:18:07.479 --> 1:18:10.080
<v Speaker 4>we were having characters on when they came on. So

1:18:10.160 --> 1:18:12.519
<v Speaker 4>like we didn't have Tony Quinn on until Tony Quinn's

1:18:12.600 --> 1:18:15.120
<v Speaker 4>character came on the show. We didn't have the Bullies

1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:17.559
<v Speaker 4>on until they didn't have Todd the Bullies on the show.

1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:20.720
<v Speaker 4>So that's why we're only three episodes into season six

1:18:20.760 --> 1:18:22.200
<v Speaker 4>where your character has been.

1:18:22.360 --> 1:18:25.040
<v Speaker 2>And lot in when you were the first show to

1:18:25.360 --> 1:18:27.960
<v Speaker 2>bring on. Fore, we wanted everyone to know that when

1:18:28.000 --> 1:18:30.200
<v Speaker 2>we got to your season, we would bring it on.

1:18:30.360 --> 1:18:32.840
<v Speaker 2>We wanted the people to know that cast members who

1:18:32.880 --> 1:18:35.280
<v Speaker 2>had been on the show, we were getting approvals from people.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you be willing to be on the show, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, great. Can we use your name in the

1:18:39.200 --> 1:18:41.800
<v Speaker 2>press release? Yes, you may, and then we put your

1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:42.719
<v Speaker 2>name in the press release.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's what happened. But that's when we were going

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<v Speaker 6>to talk about it. I thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 6>happen bringing So.

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<v Speaker 4>That might have been So that might have been a miscommunication.

1:18:49.600 --> 1:18:52.720
<v Speaker 4>That's a straight up. That might have been on me with.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I said you might have your number and

1:18:54.720 --> 1:18:58.000
<v Speaker 2>will sat and then you said no to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>Right now, this is like we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 6>this right now, I'm like, I didn't think you were

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<v Speaker 6>being genuine about it. I was like, God, I don't

1:19:03.680 --> 1:19:05.160
<v Speaker 6>want to talk to her right now, like about this.

1:19:05.520 --> 1:19:06.080
<v Speaker 6>It's just right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you didn't want to talk about it then, but

1:19:07.520 --> 1:19:09.040
<v Speaker 2>you but you thought also you were going to be

1:19:09.040 --> 1:19:10.839
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast right around the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>Podcast, so that it'll be a good talk.

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<v Speaker 4>That's where I said, yeah, yeah, So that in all fairness,

1:19:15.800 --> 1:19:17.639
<v Speaker 4>that was that might have been a miscommunication on my part,

1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:20.320
<v Speaker 4>because that was just getting people to say yes, they

1:19:20.479 --> 1:19:21.599
<v Speaker 4>because you were like, oh, it's.

1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Going to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to be doing this fast, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, that's what Well that's what I thought, But

1:19:25.160 --> 1:19:27.160
<v Speaker 4>it was what I meant was we were going to

1:19:27.160 --> 1:19:30.720
<v Speaker 4>be announcing the podcast and everybody's name fast, but then

1:19:30.800 --> 1:19:32.280
<v Speaker 4>you were going to come on. People were going to

1:19:32.320 --> 1:19:34.680
<v Speaker 4>come on when they came on the show, was what

1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:36.800
<v Speaker 4>we were because we I mean, frankly, we didn't want

1:19:36.840 --> 1:19:40.559
<v Speaker 4>to have everybody on at the beginning top heavy. We

1:19:40.600 --> 1:19:42.360
<v Speaker 4>want to save some of the people for when their

1:19:42.360 --> 1:19:43.240
<v Speaker 4>episodes came out.

1:19:43.320 --> 1:19:46.080
<v Speaker 2>If we had everyone on very early, who would we

1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:49.080
<v Speaker 2>have to interview when their seasons roll around. We wanted

1:19:49.120 --> 1:19:52.920
<v Speaker 2>to save a certain amount of excitement. Obviously, having you

1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:55.559
<v Speaker 2>on to talk about your new career is something a

1:19:55.600 --> 1:19:59.519
<v Speaker 2>lot of people are very excited about and have been

1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:03.760
<v Speaker 2>looking for word too. Yeah, so we wanted to give

1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:06.720
<v Speaker 2>the people what they want and make them wait a

1:20:06.760 --> 1:20:07.559
<v Speaker 2>little bit for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know that's that's the thing you do important too.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad we can still find commonalities. I cannot believe I'll

1:20:17.000 --> 1:20:20.240
<v Speaker 2>never get over me saying was there a gum wall

1:20:20.520 --> 1:20:25.720
<v Speaker 2>and will saying it's not gum. I I will just

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<v Speaker 2>saying it could have been candy.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have been licorice.

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<v Speaker 4>I imagine adult industry or regular industry.

1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:34.479
<v Speaker 1>The craft service table was probably the same suction to

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<v Speaker 1>the law. That's actually kind of cool to think about.

1:20:41.000 --> 1:20:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, Maitland, thank you so much for coming on. Thank

1:20:44.040 --> 1:20:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you for sharing your time with us. We know there

1:20:46.040 --> 1:20:48.720
<v Speaker 2>have been a lot of people who have been emailing us,

1:20:48.760 --> 1:20:49.800
<v Speaker 2>who have messaged us.

1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:52.439
<v Speaker 6>I have so much great boy meets World fans that

1:20:52.520 --> 1:20:55.720
<v Speaker 6>have been with me through everything. Like they'll say, I

1:20:55.880 --> 1:20:58.160
<v Speaker 6>watched you back then and I like you. I thought

1:20:58.160 --> 1:21:00.439
<v Speaker 6>you were so sexy, and I, you know, my teenage

1:21:00.479 --> 1:21:03.439
<v Speaker 6>fantasies were all you know, I was turned on back then,

1:21:03.479 --> 1:21:05.960
<v Speaker 6>and now I get to see the full thing and

1:21:06.000 --> 1:21:08.880
<v Speaker 6>I've come all this. Not many people can say that

1:21:08.920 --> 1:21:12.880
<v Speaker 6>they've had, you know, fans who were fantasizing about them

1:21:12.880 --> 1:21:15.599
<v Speaker 6>back then all these years later actually seeing them in

1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:19.439
<v Speaker 6>those fantasies and they had your vagina in their drawer.

1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:22.439
<v Speaker 2>That's true very much.

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<v Speaker 6>That I never thought that would happen.

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<v Speaker 4>And one thing I do want to tell you that

1:21:27.080 --> 1:21:28.639
<v Speaker 4>we've been talking about a lot is again, we're only

1:21:28.640 --> 1:21:32.519
<v Speaker 4>three episodes in, but they haven't really established your character

1:21:32.760 --> 1:21:34.400
<v Speaker 4>very much yet. They didn't give you a whole lot

1:21:34.439 --> 1:21:37.400
<v Speaker 4>to do, and with what they've given you, you're doing great.

1:21:38.000 --> 1:21:40.120
<v Speaker 1>So we're very impressed with.

1:21:40.240 --> 1:21:42.920
<v Speaker 6>All work stuff in the apartment. It was really like

1:21:43.240 --> 1:21:43.639
<v Speaker 6>but it.

1:21:43.560 --> 1:21:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Was all it could really have been just one note,

1:21:45.960 --> 1:21:48.639
<v Speaker 4>like they really didn't They haven't figured out.

1:21:49.360 --> 1:21:51.360
<v Speaker 6>Who she's going to be she was yet.

1:21:51.439 --> 1:21:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're doing a lot.

1:21:52.920 --> 1:21:54.840
<v Speaker 4>With what they're giving you so far, and I think

1:21:54.840 --> 1:21:57.160
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to figure out who you're going to be

1:21:57.200 --> 1:21:58.640
<v Speaker 4>and what the relationship is because I know a lot

1:21:58.640 --> 1:22:00.720
<v Speaker 4>of people talk about like I'll hear from people that

1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:02.599
<v Speaker 4>conventions and stuff all the time like no, no, no,

1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:05.160
<v Speaker 4>Rachel should have been with Eric, Like why is she?

1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Why was she?

1:22:07.000 --> 1:22:08.919
<v Speaker 6>I get a lot of Eric like yes.

1:22:08.840 --> 1:22:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that kind of stuff too.

1:22:10.600 --> 1:22:13.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but it was it Michael or somebody were saying

1:22:13.479 --> 1:22:15.439
<v Speaker 6>that if I got with Eric, it wouldn't have been

1:22:15.439 --> 1:22:17.120
<v Speaker 6>funny for him or something. It would have been like

1:22:17.960 --> 1:22:21.040
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, there was some reason like whyre but

1:22:21.800 --> 1:22:22.720
<v Speaker 6>palmedy with it or.

1:22:22.720 --> 1:22:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Something maybe, and they just kept Eric like absolutely the

1:22:28.640 --> 1:22:30.160
<v Speaker 1>singular focus. But no, so far.

1:22:30.240 --> 1:22:32.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean again with with what they've been giving you

1:22:32.280 --> 1:22:34.760
<v Speaker 4>so far, and they'll develop your character more. But you've

1:22:34.760 --> 1:22:37.240
<v Speaker 4>been doing great, so yeah, we definitely wanted to let

1:22:37.280 --> 1:22:37.879
<v Speaker 4>you know that.

1:22:37.680 --> 1:22:40.400
<v Speaker 6>That's so well. Yeah, remembering back on everything, I mean,

1:22:40.439 --> 1:22:44.200
<v Speaker 6>I you know, going down memory lane of all this stuff.

1:22:44.200 --> 1:22:45.760
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how you guys do it all the time.

1:22:45.880 --> 1:22:48.080
<v Speaker 6>Just looking at all the episodes and examining them, I

1:22:48.080 --> 1:22:49.040
<v Speaker 6>think I go crazy.

1:22:49.280 --> 1:22:51.120
<v Speaker 2>When was the last time you watched an episode of

1:22:51.120 --> 1:22:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Boy Meets worl oh Well?

1:22:52.400 --> 1:22:54.720
<v Speaker 6>And I've seen different like parts and stuff. When I

1:22:54.720 --> 1:22:56.320
<v Speaker 6>was writing my book, I went back and watched like

1:22:56.360 --> 1:22:59.360
<v Speaker 6>episodes that I was in my feelings towards that and

1:22:59.400 --> 1:23:02.840
<v Speaker 6>like and broke that down about you know, just what

1:23:02.960 --> 1:23:05.679
<v Speaker 6>my mindset was back then, what was happening. So I did,

1:23:05.720 --> 1:23:09.160
<v Speaker 6>But you know what, I don't watch them. I don't.

1:23:09.200 --> 1:23:11.320
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I love that time in my life. It

1:23:11.439 --> 1:23:13.760
<v Speaker 6>was so special and I'm so thankful and grateful to

1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:17.080
<v Speaker 6>have been part of such an amazing show. But I

1:23:17.120 --> 1:23:18.680
<v Speaker 6>didn't want to be part of you had that for

1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:20.240
<v Speaker 6>the rest of my life, you know, I want to

1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:23.320
<v Speaker 6>do something else, and I wanted to, you know, do

1:23:23.560 --> 1:23:26.640
<v Speaker 6>other things and I'm lucky that I had success in

1:23:28.200 --> 1:23:29.320
<v Speaker 6>other realms and stuff.

1:23:29.360 --> 1:23:32.320
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, absolutely, we're all very lucky that we had

1:23:32.400 --> 1:23:35.519
<v Speaker 2>those years on boy metsorrel that helped develop who we

1:23:35.520 --> 1:23:38.439
<v Speaker 2>were as people. And thankfully we've all gone on to

1:23:38.479 --> 1:23:40.720
<v Speaker 2>find new careers and things we love to do, and

1:23:41.680 --> 1:23:43.559
<v Speaker 2>we still get to talk about the fun times we

1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:46.559
<v Speaker 2>had on the show. Maitland Where can people find you now?

1:23:46.600 --> 1:23:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned that you had written a memoir called Sorry

1:23:49.240 --> 1:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>and I Lost my paper my Was it my escape

1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:52.639
<v Speaker 2>from Hollywood?

1:23:52.640 --> 1:23:52.720
<v Speaker 4>Well?

1:23:52.760 --> 1:23:57.040
<v Speaker 6>Actually that's that's the paperback version, the first Rated X

1:23:57.520 --> 1:24:00.200
<v Speaker 6>okay me from Hollywood. In the second, they've changed the

1:24:00.240 --> 1:24:03.439
<v Speaker 6>title to get it in more markets like airports and stuff.

1:24:03.439 --> 1:24:07.280
<v Speaker 6>Because rated X was title for something.

1:24:07.720 --> 1:24:08.960
<v Speaker 4>I just thought it was right next to all my

1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:11.320
<v Speaker 4>DVDs in my Barnes and Noble. I literally just thought.

1:24:11.960 --> 1:24:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the rated X one or the new one.

1:24:14.520 --> 1:24:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Rated X one.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, bookstores was fine, but like for like foreign markets

1:24:19.520 --> 1:24:23.559
<v Speaker 6>or like places that weren't so receptive to having rated

1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:25.880
<v Speaker 6>X on the cover, they just changed the title for

1:24:26.000 --> 1:24:27.240
<v Speaker 6>the paperback.

1:24:27.360 --> 1:24:29.840
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, okay, so people can pick up your book

1:24:30.000 --> 1:24:32.240
<v Speaker 2>rated X everywhere.

1:24:32.520 --> 1:24:36.880
<v Speaker 6>On it's Maitland Ward basically everywhere even and definitely my

1:24:36.960 --> 1:24:39.439
<v Speaker 6>only fans and everything. So if you you know, I

1:24:39.600 --> 1:24:45.880
<v Speaker 6>want to go there and get some goodies, it's some cameos.

1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh don't.

1:24:48.320 --> 1:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a good way.

1:24:49.120 --> 1:24:50.920
<v Speaker 6>I do that all the time. I get so many

1:24:51.000 --> 1:24:54.639
<v Speaker 6>like customer requests like that, just to have people through

1:24:54.680 --> 1:24:55.280
<v Speaker 6>only fans.

1:24:55.640 --> 1:24:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm sorry, I've never been on only fans.

1:24:58.800 --> 1:25:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Is you You can literally like request something specific and

1:25:01.600 --> 1:25:03.000
<v Speaker 4>then somebody does regret.

1:25:03.400 --> 1:25:06.400
<v Speaker 6>Good money for it, like wast you five hundred thousand

1:25:06.439 --> 1:25:11.080
<v Speaker 6>dollars to get like you know, yeah, it's like did.

1:25:11.000 --> 1:25:13.799
<v Speaker 1>You say five hundred thousand dollars on a thousand?

1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh oh god, I thought five hundred dollars billionaires.

1:25:19.280 --> 1:25:23.479
<v Speaker 6>No like for that. And if you want to do

1:25:23.560 --> 1:25:25.920
<v Speaker 6>like a custom video, then it's going to be more.

1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:27.880
<v Speaker 6>And there's all sorts of different things.

1:25:27.960 --> 1:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>When you said five hundred thousand dollars, Will was opening

1:25:30.240 --> 1:25:31.320
<v Speaker 2>and all my fans so exciting.

1:25:31.520 --> 1:25:34.599
<v Speaker 3>Will was for only fans.

1:25:34.680 --> 1:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>My god, that's wow. That's got five hundred grand video.

1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:38.719
<v Speaker 3>That's impressive.

1:25:39.200 --> 1:25:43.479
<v Speaker 2>Uh wow, Well, thank you for joining us, Maitland. It

1:25:43.560 --> 1:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>was nice to talk to you. Reminisce. Share some good times,

1:25:46.439 --> 1:25:49.679
<v Speaker 2>share some not so good times, uh, you know where

1:25:49.720 --> 1:25:51.680
<v Speaker 2>to find us, and thank you for joining us. Maybe

1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:53.840
<v Speaker 2>we'll have you back for our prank war episode in

1:25:53.880 --> 1:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>season seven. You can, yeah, I'll have you back for

1:25:57.080 --> 1:25:59.040
<v Speaker 2>that so we can maybe maybe we'll turn that into

1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:01.920
<v Speaker 2>a whole week like we did the Scream episode. That's

1:26:02.400 --> 1:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>we could break down a few things and we'll have

1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:05.880
<v Speaker 2>you come back to share your memories with that with

1:26:06.000 --> 1:26:06.360
<v Speaker 2>us too.

1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:17.120
<v Speaker 8>Thank you, Maitland, Thanks bye bye.

1:26:22.400 --> 1:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>What the merch? That's all what it was going to be.

1:26:25.800 --> 1:26:28.679
<v Speaker 4>That I'm letting ride her do it because that's exactly

1:26:28.680 --> 1:26:29.240
<v Speaker 4>what it was going to be.

1:26:29.280 --> 1:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I even wrote down.

1:26:30.040 --> 1:26:32.080
<v Speaker 3>What the merch, so pick that.

1:26:32.320 --> 1:26:34.160
<v Speaker 6>But wow, I.

1:26:34.120 --> 1:26:36.240
<v Speaker 4>Don't like when things I know.

1:26:36.560 --> 1:26:37.440
<v Speaker 2>But also.

1:26:38.960 --> 1:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>You know now you needed the conversation, you needed, You needed.

1:26:41.880 --> 1:26:47.880
<v Speaker 2>The She obviously felt like me reaching out privately was

1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:51.680
<v Speaker 2>going to be disingenuous, because she very still even to

1:26:51.760 --> 1:26:55.599
<v Speaker 2>this day, thinks she sent me a message, I read

1:26:55.640 --> 1:27:01.400
<v Speaker 2>it and then unfollowed her, right, which is just not

1:27:01.600 --> 1:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>the case.

1:27:02.280 --> 1:27:04.800
<v Speaker 5>What I understand is like, what when you hear what

1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:08.400
<v Speaker 5>you're saying now you just say, oh okay, I misunderstood,

1:27:09.240 --> 1:27:14.200
<v Speaker 5>Like that's it, it's over. Why would you now, Like,

1:27:14.240 --> 1:27:17.439
<v Speaker 5>what benefit does it. How does it benefit you to

1:27:17.520 --> 1:27:20.880
<v Speaker 5>now say you know what I mean? Like the second

1:27:20.920 --> 1:27:22.960
<v Speaker 5>you said, I really never got it. I never intended

1:27:22.960 --> 1:27:25.040
<v Speaker 5>to unfriend you. There's no conflict anymore.

1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:25.400
<v Speaker 3>It's over.

1:27:25.479 --> 1:27:28.000
<v Speaker 5>And then it's like, oh, okay, cool, Sorry, I misunderstood

1:27:28.320 --> 1:27:29.920
<v Speaker 5>what I felt in the moment.

1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:32.080
<v Speaker 2>When I asked well if she could give me her

1:27:32.120 --> 1:27:35.400
<v Speaker 2>phone number and she wrote back, no, let's save it

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<v Speaker 2>was very much to me, Oh, you're not actually interested

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<v Speaker 2>in the truth. You're not actually interested in getting to

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of it, because in my opinion, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>disingenuous gripe. If it were a real feeling she had,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, honestly, I'm hurt, Danielle. I sent

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<v Speaker 2>her a really nice message and she unfollowed me, and

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<v Speaker 2>she says that in the press, and then that dan

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<v Speaker 2>Yell says, may I have your number please? I would think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to get to the bottom of this. But

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<v Speaker 2>to me, what it felt was, Oh, you don't actually

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<v Speaker 2>care what the real story is you. Similarly to the

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<v Speaker 2>way she decided when Girl Meets World and all that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff was in the press, that that was an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>for her to make a name for herself. In case

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<v Speaker 2>play and in role playing. She felt like this was

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity for her to get press by having conflict,

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<v Speaker 2>which I am just not your girl to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just not And she thought it was disingenuous for

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<v Speaker 2>me to reach out to her. I think wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>do it for stats is disingenuous. And the minute somebody says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk to you privately, let's save

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<v Speaker 2>it for a podcast, I'm fine to save it for

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast. We did it. I just did it.

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<v Speaker 4>People need to sit down and talk, and nobody's doing

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<v Speaker 4>it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And it sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And by the way, you can sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and talk and at the end of it go

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to be friends. Yeah, I don't hate you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hate you. I don't hate Maitland, not even

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<v Speaker 2>the slightest. No, I Maitland should go and have the best, most, greatest,

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<v Speaker 2>most fantastical, wonderful life. And we will gladly have her

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<v Speaker 2>back on the podcast to talk about the Prank Wars

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<v Speaker 2>episode when we get to it, or if there's some

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<v Speaker 2>other great episode we stumble upon that we go, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, we have to talk to Maitland about this.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have her back. Does that mean that Maitland and

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<v Speaker 2>I need to have each other's numbers and send each

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<v Speaker 2>other texts? Absolutely not, don't. We don't need that and

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay. So thank you all for joining us for

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<v Speaker 2>this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can

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