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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome.

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Speaker 3: It is a beautiful Monday morning from Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not Colin Coward.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason McIntyre in for Colin.

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Speaker 3: He was supposed to be back today, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, something's going on with cowhert No, just kidding.

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Speaker 3: He had some travel issues. I'm sure he will tell

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Speaker 3: you all about it tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Nobody loves an airport like Colin Coward. He'll have many

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Speaker 2: stories when he is back. But you got me for

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Speaker 2: one more day.

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Speaker 3: And honestly, I think Cowhard blew off today because my

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Speaker 3: Cooper flag take last week was so good and it

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Speaker 3: was reinforced over the weekend, but they had to have

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Speaker 3: me back to talk.

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Speaker 2: About it and n Fortunately, we got a great show today, folks.

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Speaker 2: I'm flying so low.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's it. It's just me you got me for

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Speaker 3: three hours. I mean, come on, you know I love

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Speaker 3: we have some great guests coming up. My main man,

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Speaker 3: Chris Broussard coming on in the final hour. We used

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Speaker 3: to do his podcast together and I would just beat

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Speaker 3: him up on NBA topics because I'm very intelligent when

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Speaker 3: it comes to basketball and football. And Broussard's gonna join

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Speaker 3: us in the final hour, got Jeff Schwartz stopping by

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Speaker 3: Matt Hasselback. It's gonna be a great show, and we're

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Speaker 3: gonna do a lot of NFL with obviously camps opening

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Speaker 3: up for rookies this week. We do want to start

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Speaker 3: with the NBA because one thing happened over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: which we'll get to momentarily. But you guys remember last

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Speaker 3: month where all the reporters who cover the NBA kept saying,

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Speaker 3: strap in, there's a crazy NBA summer ahead. You never

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Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen. Stars could be on the move.

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Speaker 3: There was so much hype. It reminded me as a

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Speaker 3: It comes out and it was an absolute flop, just

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Speaker 3: was a basically considered a disaster. And that's NBA free agency.

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Speaker 3: Folks were two weeks in and there's one story, and

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Speaker 3: that's Lebron James, who is shockingly very hurt.

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Speaker 2: And to quote Ron Burgundy, he's offended and he's hurt.

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Speaker 3: And Lebron was an NBA Summer League over the weekend

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Speaker 3: to check out his son, Ronnie James. As you could expect,

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Speaker 3: an NBA reporter went up to him and said, hey, Lebron,

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Speaker 3: Lebron said, I got nothing to talk about and he

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Speaker 3: shut it down.

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Speaker 2: Lebron the man.

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Speaker 3: Of breadcrumbs on social media, giving the media nothing. Well,

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Speaker 3: what's been a disastrous NBA free agency for the league.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, when Miles Turner is your big move

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Speaker 3: He's giving us content for weeks because he's offended and

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Speaker 3: hurt that the Lakers did not offer him a new deal.

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Speaker 3: So Lebron decided, I'm gonna go ahead and opped in

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Speaker 2: Two million dollars.

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Speaker 3: And then for two weeks he is really not happy

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Speaker 3: Now it's been a minute since we've talked to Jovon Buha,

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Speaker 4: This is the first time you could say in Lebron's

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Speaker 5: Luca just came in and.

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Speaker 2: Got the baton right, Like I get it. He's a

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Speaker 4: Enter his prime, has already led a team to the finals.

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Speaker 4: But Lebron's just I think the big thing is like

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Speaker 3: He's kind of sort of right, Jovan of course here

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Speaker 2: But let's just start with some of the facts. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Lebron showed up to the Lakers and they were in

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Speaker 3: the wilderness lost. You can attribute that if you want

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Speaker 3: bottom line is they had the worst five year run

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Speaker 2: Lebron saved the Lakers period.

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Speaker 3: That's a fact. That's an inarguable fact. Gets them to

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Speaker 3: be contenders, gets it, Anthony Davis. They win a championship

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. Okay, they get back to the conference finals.

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Speaker 3: People forget that against Denver, and then Lebron gets to

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Speaker 3: hand pick his coach. Give me my guy, JJ Reriddick

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Speaker 3: for my podcast. Okay, Lebron, check, can you draft my son?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Check Lebron.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers cater to Lebron because Lebron saved them.

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Speaker 2: All understandable and it makes total sense.

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Speaker 3: Where things go awry was when Luka Doncic all of

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Speaker 3: MAVs traded to the Lakers, and then the calculus change,

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Speaker 3: the Lakers move away from Lebron and to Luca. But

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Speaker 3: in an absence of actual information here in the last

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Speaker 3: he's wearing a hat that says welcome home while he's

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Speaker 2: He wants to be a Calv again.

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Speaker 3: When there's an absence of information, come the conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 2: And now over the weekend we.

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Speaker 3: See four teams are monitoring the Lebron situation.

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Speaker 2: Who are they?

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Speaker 3: Well, on confirmed reports from various reporters, it's the Dallas Mavericks.

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Speaker 2: Come on, give me a break. That's zero shot of

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Speaker 3: The La Clippers, Yeah, that's what Lebron wants to do,

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Speaker 2: To the paper clips to play with Harden and Kawhi.

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Speaker 3: The Cleveland Cavalier, now that was interesting, but you listen

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Speaker 3: Calves could not make Lebron happen. It's waterline impossible, not

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Speaker 2: There's a nod to Cowherd, but just it can't happen.

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Speaker 3: And why are the Lakers doing that? So again, I

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Speaker 3: I'm forty, Luca is you know, in his prime mid twenties.

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Speaker 3: Of course they want to build around him Lebron. I listen,

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Speaker 2: And I had a fun stat somebody hit with I

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Speaker 2: totally forgot. Over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Lebron has been the MVP of the Finals on three

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Speaker 3: different teams. That's an unbelievable accomplished look in American sports,

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Speaker 3: it's difficult to find guys who have been the championship

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Speaker 3: That's another reason why he's the goat. Okay, anywhere he goes,

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Speaker 3: what he's done, but it's about Luca now, and I

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Speaker 3: think Lebron's just got to understand that because sadly, Bron,

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Speaker 3: you're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I want to pivot to the NFL because listen, as

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Speaker 3: a bunch of lists in the NFL. So ESPN had

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Speaker 3: an interesting list of the top ten quarterbacks heading into

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and just so.

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Speaker 2: I get it accurate.

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Speaker 3: Here, it's according to executives, coaches, and scouts, and you

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Speaker 3: Burrow, Mahomes, Lamar Josh Allen. Okay, executives love Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: After that, it gets difficult. Five through ten is a

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Speaker 3: any distribute moves to the top four and nobody should.

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Speaker 3: The order we can quibble over, but the reality is

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Speaker 3: that Jalen hurt was once again utterly disrespected by executive

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Speaker 3: coaches and scouts. Jalen Hurts has been to two Super Bowls.

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Speaker 3: He went toe to toe with Mahomes in one of

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Speaker 3: he smashed Mahomes this past February in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: and with the MVP, and Jalen Hurts is only ninth,

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Speaker 3: the ninth best quarterback in the NFL Well, there is

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Speaker 3: another interesting thing that came up in the meeting this morning,

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Speaker 3: the top ten guys, Jalen Hurts is the only non

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Speaker 3: first round quarterback. First impressions matter. Oh, were you a

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Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 2: Over and over and over again.

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Speaker 3: I keep hearing that, Oh, well, Jalen Hurts has a

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Speaker 3: stacked deck? Jay, does he really? I was unaware of that.

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Speaker 3: I was unaware that he had a different offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: every season he's been in the NFL for all this.

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Speaker 2: Jared Goflaw and Jared Gosle on the list.

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Speaker 2: He would make my top twelve.

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff came into the league, got Jeff Fisher, was

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Speaker 3: the sharpest offensive minds of this generation. And then he

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Speaker 2: And Jared Goff is better than Jalen Hurts. Oh, Jared

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Speaker 2: Goff was a number one overall pick. That's right. First

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Speaker 2: impressions matter.

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Speaker 3: Now, we did have a spirited chat because I'm very

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Speaker 3: bullish on Hurts.

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Speaker 3: Flag you, Know Cooper flagg ended up going going postal

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Speaker 3: against this guy and everyone. Else So i'm, Sorry Boom,

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Speaker 3: dizzle but the andre Kirol InKo kompa is. Terrible Cooper

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Speaker 3: flag is going to be a superstar in THE. Nba

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Speaker 3: this is going to, happen probably sooner than. Later get

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Speaker 3: with the, program, Everyone all, right let's go To Jeff.

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Speaker 2: SCHWARTZ nfl analyst here At. Fox he has a. Podcast

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Speaker 2: he's wearing a Nice duke blue.

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Speaker 3: Shirt did you did you play eighteen this?

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Speaker 6: Morning?

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Speaker 5: JEFF i did. NOT i was doing something. Else had

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Speaker 5: to wear a Nice polo SHIRTS i just wore for

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Speaker 5: you as. Well it's hoping to get some some summer

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Speaker 5: league wagers from you, today BUT i guess to do

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Speaker 5: that another.

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Speaker 2: Time, Yeah i'm Doing i'm holding off on the summer league.

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Speaker 2: GAMBLING i. KNOW i see you on Social are you

452
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Speaker 2: doing W nba? Betting?

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Speaker 5: Yeah mostly. PROPS i, mean, Look Cavin clark assists every.

454
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Speaker 5: GAME i mean she gets a lot of. Assists she

455
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Speaker 5: might not be shooting bar right, now but she's passing

456
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 5: the ball around her teammates and sometimes they don't make the, Layups,

457
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Speaker 5: jason but they she gets a lot of. Assists SO

458
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Speaker 5: i will. ROCK i JUST i mostly do zigzag. Stuff

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Speaker 5: right where a good player has a bad, game the

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Speaker 5: next game they typically played. Better it's not rocket. SCIENCE

461
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 5: i tend to make those type of.

462
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Speaker 2: Wagers, yeah it is weird just to go.

463
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Speaker 3: Well i'll talk About clark a little more, later But

464
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Speaker 3: i'm curious your. Thoughts so she struggled before the, injury

465
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Speaker 3: she comes back from the, injury she's still kind of.

466
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Speaker 3: Struggling but The fever are winning, now aside from. GAMBLING

467
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Speaker 3: i think The fever are still going to be live

468
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs with a Healthy clerk.

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Speaker 2: To maybe maybe contend for the.

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Speaker 3: CHAMPIONSHIP i know their record doesn't show, it but you've

471
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Speaker 3: watched a lot OF.

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Speaker 2: WNBA i, mean do you think they are contenders With?

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Speaker 5: CLARK i think they have to be because their offense

474
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Speaker 5: is sort of figuring out. Right it takes some. Time

475
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 5: they have a lot of new, pieces right That howard's, new,

476
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Speaker 5: Right tunningham's. New clark's been in out of the, lineup

477
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Speaker 5: but they're trying to figure things, out all, right mcdald's

478
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 5: been in the. Lineup, now we're trying to figure things.

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00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 5: Out As clark gets, healthier i'd imagine they start playing better.

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00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 5: Offensively she will start playing better offensively as. Well but

481
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 5: she obviously does a lot for the. Game assists shod five,

482
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Speaker 5: steals yess as she opens us up when they are.

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Speaker 5: On they score a ton of, points and defensively there's

484
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Speaker 5: so some question. MARKS i feel like they did big

485
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Speaker 5: The links already without. Her they beat The liberty With Kaylin.

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Speaker 5: Clark they Played LIBERTY i think again this. Weekend so they're.

487
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Speaker 5: Alive remember last, year the second half of the season

488
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 5: after The olympic, break they were much. BETTER i feel

489
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Speaker 5: like they're starting to hit their stride a little bit

490
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 5: now as we get to the. BREAK i would expect

491
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Speaker 5: them to play well on the.

492
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Speaker 2: Postseason, WOW i got to give you a shout.

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Speaker 3: Out Jeff clark is Dropping Indiana fever bench players and

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Speaker 3: he's talking about the upcoming schedule of my.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: Impressive all, right let's go to THE.

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Speaker 3: NFL i do want to ask you about college later or,

498
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Speaker 3: something BUT i don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, listen it's Mid. July people are putting out.

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Speaker 3: LISTS i see this list of the top ten quarterbacks

501
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 3: in the league from executive scouts and. Coaches jeff The

502
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Speaker 3: Jalen hurts disrespect THE mvp of The Super, bowl checking

503
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Speaker 3: in ninth, Below Jared, Goff Justin. HERBERT i Love Justin.

504
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 3: Herbert he doesn't have a playoff win. Yet Matt stafford

505
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Speaker 3: is kind of cement shoes in the. Pocket shout Out.

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Speaker 3: Stafford Jayden daniels one. Year why do you think people

507
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Speaker 3: are just out on her? Too by the, way is

508
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Speaker 3: the only second round pick of these top.

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Speaker 5: Nine i'm not sure they're out on. HIM i think

510
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 5: they don't look at one game as a reason why

511
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 5: to rank a player in a certain. Spot, right this

512
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 5: is the best quarterback for an entire, season or really

513
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 5: where they are in their. Careers to, me one through

514
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 5: six is not really debatable with them And Hurts and,

515
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 5: look Jay daniels had one good, season we get, that

516
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 5: but go watch him play as a passer of the.

517
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Speaker 5: Football he's a better passer of football Than Jalen. HURTS

518
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Speaker 5: i think there's no question about that. Now of, course

519
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Speaker 5: he didn't do it in The Super bowl Like hurts,

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00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 5: ass which did. Happen he played, Great actually in Both Super.

521
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 5: Bowls hurts has played really well and that should count for.

522
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 5: SOMETHING i do think that does count For Justin, herbert

523
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Speaker 5: who has not played well on the, Postseason hurts has

524
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Speaker 5: been better than. HIM i would, put you, know Probably

525
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Speaker 5: hurts at. Seven stafford's still really. Good LIKE i think

526
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Speaker 5: we forget that because he doesn't move as well as

527
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Speaker 5: other quarterbacks. Do and he plays IN la and pro

528
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Speaker 5: football is not as important. There but they were very

529
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Speaker 5: close to winning that game in the snow In. PHILLY

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Speaker 5: a couple of turn doom them. THERE i Think hurts

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Speaker 5: is properly. RANKED i think if you were drafting quarterbacks

532
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: this is about where you draft, them you would Have.

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Speaker 5: HURTS i think ahead Of stafford because of age. There

534
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 5: but to, me one, game, right he played great in that.

535
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Speaker 5: Game not say anyway from him doesn't really. CHANGE i

536
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Speaker 5: think where he needs to be ranked according to the top.

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00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: Six now again he should be a head of. Golf

538
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 5: that team is really still to me And. HERBERT i

539
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 5: love Justin, herbert but he has not shown the ability

540
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Speaker 5: in those bigger games in the postseason to play as

541
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Speaker 5: well As. HURTS i think to, me one through six

542
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Speaker 5: is where they should. Be you might, argue, okay should

543
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Speaker 5: lamar b three should burrow before sure one or two

544
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Speaker 5: feel very solid of where they, Are SO i have

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Speaker 5: no problem with one through. SIX i think seven should Be. Hurts.

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Speaker 2: Okay so that this is a good talking point FOR

547
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Speaker 2: nfl fans because when you say like there's no, debate

548
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Speaker 2: Like Jaden daniels is a better thrower of the.

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Speaker 3: FOOTBALL i think that was the phrase you, used and

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Speaker 3: that's a phrase in a lot of these. Articles how

551
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Speaker 3: do you quantify? That BECAUSE i, mean if you're just

552
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Speaker 3: looking at how the ball comes off their, hand you,

553
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Speaker 3: know over five hundred, attempts, LIKE i guess you could

554
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Speaker 3: break it down that.

555
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: Way do you do yards for?

556
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Speaker 3: Attempt which is you, know saying that someone's a check

557
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: down or deep down the? Field is it completion percentage

558
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Speaker 3: that could be skewed toward what the offense is?

559
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Speaker 2: Doing quarterback? Rating, like how do you judge thrower of the?

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Speaker 6: Football?

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Speaker 5: YEAH i judge the really tough. THROWS i think a

562
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Speaker 5: lot of guys can make the easy, throw, right it's

563
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Speaker 5: the tough those, right the throws on the, move those

564
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Speaker 5: on third down, throws the pressure in your, face throws

565
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Speaker 5: in big. MOMENTS i, mean go look at the Throws

566
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Speaker 5: Daniel may throughout the season and you'll SEE i think

567
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Speaker 5: in more opportunities the offense was put on his shoulders

568
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 5: and he made those. Throws now it hurts, offense so

569
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 5: it hurts. DEFENSE J. Man he doesn't have to do as,

570
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 5: much right because they run the football so. Well they

571
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 5: close out games with the offensive line in the run

572
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 5: game and often with his. Legs BUT i Think daniels

573
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 5: throws the ball better Than hurts in bigger, moments in

574
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 5: sort of the third down, situation sort of these big tough.

575
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 5: Throws to, me It's daniel's ahead of, them which to

576
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 5: me is still number one quarterback. PLAY i, look mobility is,

577
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Speaker 5: great being able to run the football, great it's good

578
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 5: for third down in the red, zone those scrimbling. Moments

579
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: but to, me the WAY i rate quarterbacks is what

580
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 5: you do in the. Pocket. First that's the hardest part

581
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 5: of the, job Right it's third and. Eight how do

582
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: you re act in the? Pocket can you make those

583
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: big time? THROWS i Think daniels is a little bit

584
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: more of that Than hurts.

585
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: Does, interesting there's a Lot that's one of the things with.

586
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks there's a lot like we got to look up

587
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: tight window throws and who's third down? Completion but there's

588
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: so much that goes into. It but let me drill

589
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 3: down On stafford for a. Second you, know the modern,

590
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: quarterback if you look at your everybody's top four Is,

591
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: burrow who can, scramble run, Awesome Patrick mahomes running despite

592
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: The dad Bod lamar needs no. Introduction Josh allen's running

593
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: over defensive. Backs stafford doesn't add that. Element but he

594
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: was a number one overall. Pick he has one of

595
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: like the top five arms in the. League he's making

596
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: no look throws in The Super. Bowl, like how are

597
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: we supposed to Compare stafford To? Hurts because IF i, Said,

598
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: jeff this, season who would you rather Have stafford Or?

599
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: Hurts wouldn't you Take? Hurts because he gives you such

600
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: a next dimension with the running.

601
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: If it was like if it was a fourth quarter to,

602
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 5: win to win a, game and of, course, look let's

603
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 5: just say it's a normal. Offense you don't get The

604
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 5: eagles offensive, Line you'll get the run game just like

605
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 5: an AVERAGE nfl offense right fourth quarter of a? Game

606
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 5: do you Want? Stafford you want her throwing the? Football

607
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 5: who would you want throw in the? Football so?

608
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: Well for the Full it's similar to The Jordan lebron,

609
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: Discussion LIKE i would Take lebron for a full, game

610
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: for the full, season but for the fourth.

611
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: Quarter, Yes stafford's Clutch Michael jordan's, Clutch AND.

612
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Speaker 5: I think that matters when it comes to some of these. Gms,

613
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 5: right like, again most of these quarterbacks right one through,

614
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: seven one through ten even can do the simple. Things,

615
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 5: well they wouldn't be a top ten quarterback if they

616
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: couldn't make the simple. Throws so to, ME i elevate

617
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 5: in cert. Situations, right how would you do in this?

618
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 5: Situation how do you do in this? SITUATION i Think

619
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 5: Matt stafford IF i ask him again for the SITUATION

620
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 5: i put and that's again WHERE i think you're judging

621
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 5: these quarterbacks and very very like nuanced. Situation to, Me

622
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: i'd Have stafford just ahead Of. HURTS i think it's

623
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 5: not that much ahead Of, hurts LIKE i think this

624
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 5: season through week eight It hurts might be better Than.

625
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 5: Stafford i'm moving up, There but for me right, now

626
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 5: the situation still. MATTERS i Think stafford is better in that. Spot,

627
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 5: again it's not a big difference between one and. Six to,

628
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: Me hurts him showing me in that, conversation but to,

629
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: me he's just.

630
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: Seven one, guy, well a couple guys down on the.

631
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Speaker 3: List number One Dak, prescott the highest paid quarterback in THE,

632
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: nfl WHO i believe two years ago was the runner

633
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: up FOR, mvp is now not even top, Ten AND

634
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: i think they did like a just missed and it WAS.

635
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: Cj stroud And Jordan. Love No Dak prescott in the top.

636
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: Twelve i'm curious your thoughts On dak because again two

637
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: years ago he was runner up TO.

638
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 6: Mvp, well he.

639
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: Didn't play much last, year, RIGHT i, MEAN i think

640
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 5: that plays a role in. It when you don't play as,

641
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 5: much you're not in that. Discussion, LOOK i think, too,

642
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 5: like at, best what Is Dak prescott ten on a?

643
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: List nine on a? List and so you don't, play

644
00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: you're gonna drop?

645
00:29:59,640 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 7: Down?

646
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 5: Now can you make that back up this? Season absolutely

647
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: with more, Playtime but again you look at sort of

648
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: the THINGS i look at in those. Moments he didn't

649
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 5: play last, year so you can't give him credit for those.

650
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: THINGS i think he's about where he should. Be but

651
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 5: AGAIN i think at best he's about ten in THE.

652
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 5: Nfl so him not playing this season last, season not

653
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: MANY i, think only games last, season it's about where

654
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 5: he can. Be can he can he get back up

655
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 5: on the top? Ten? Absolutely, look you can certainly see

656
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 5: a list like this where golf pulls back in a given.

657
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 5: Year Baker MAYFIELD i think is what he is right.

658
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 5: Now but he could pull back a little bit and

659
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 5: then just that kind of popping. IT i Think dak

660
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: has known better than about nine to ten in the

661
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 5: best season he can have in THE.

662
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Nfl, Interesting so, AGAIN i like this guy more than

663
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: the market.

664
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: Does But Brock, perdy he didn't have a great, year

665
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: but the whole team was banged.

666
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: Up it felt like a transition.

667
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: Year, Again i'm not judging a guy on one, year

668
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: which is WHY i have a problem With daniels at.

669
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: Five but if you Take perdy's, career he's been freaking.

670
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: Good how does he not crack the top? Ten, now,

671
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: again salary does not factor in. Here we're not Saying

672
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: dak makes you, know sixty mili what's his value compared To.

673
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: Daniels that's, obvious but salary removed just quarterback. Play are

674
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: you a pretty believer or?

675
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: NO i do think that draft slot bias matters, here,

676
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 5: right because he's a seventh round. PICKED i was having

677
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 5: a throat, Pick so Maybe i'm defending him a little bit.

678
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 5: Here are you telling me that Like Rock purty couldn't

679
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 5: Be Jared goff with The lions? Offense he totally, can't,

680
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 5: Right but he gets the benefit of playing with a

681
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 5: great offensive Lining golf does and all the. Weapons last,

682
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: year everyone was hurt for The. Niners the offensive line was,

683
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 5: hurt was beat, up the offensives not as good As detroit,

684
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 5: is and he still did the best he could give

685
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 5: him a. Situation and SO i think he probably in

686
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 5: a given, year with everyone back, healthy is going to

687
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 5: be better than where he's ranked right. Now DO i

688
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: think he has the elite traits of the top six

689
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: guys or seven, guys, know so he's probably never going

690
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 5: to be that. High JAM i think traits, matter, right

691
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: the eye test matters in these. Rankings but put it all,

692
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: together to, me you could have the same Season golf

693
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 5: has In detroit if you just insert Brock perty into that.

694
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 5: Lineup totally.

695
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: Agree let me ask About Baker, mayfield who's an interesting

696
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: quarterback because he flopped badly in his first few, years,

697
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: right but he was number one Overall bick everybody loved,

698
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: him and then he fell out of favor and now

699
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: a couple good years In tampa And Baker mayfield number

700
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: ten on the.

701
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: List, now it's a weird. Thing it seems like.

702
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: These top picks they get multiple bites at the. Apple

703
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: if you brought. Berty you have one year By Dak,

704
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: prescott one bad year. Bye But Baker, mayfield hey, man

705
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: he was a number one. Pick he's got the, traits

706
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: as you, said and he checks in at ten on

707
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: the list your.

708
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 5: Thoughts, Yeah, LOOK i think we love The baker. Story

709
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: and he played well last year, though. Jayback he completed

710
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 5: nearly seventy two percent pass had forty five hundred yards last,

711
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 5: season like a legitimately great season passing the, football and

712
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 5: that you know he has weapons around, him obviously the

713
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 5: offensive line there is good but little injury right now with,

714
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: worfs and he's just played. Well he's a good example

715
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: of two things as you mentioned. Right one is that

716
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 5: draft slot BIAS i mentioned, Right if you're the first book,

717
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 5: overall you get more chances than anyone. Else and he's

718
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 5: had those. Chances now when he's had the, chances, though

719
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: he's cashed in right That Rams thursday and football game

720
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 5: he cashed, in. Right he cashed in in this, situation

721
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 5: get an opportunity In. Tampa that's certainly all part of.

722
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 5: It but he's played well in the. Situation situation, matters,

723
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 5: right it. Matters does the offense fits? You javin our offensive.

724
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 5: Line do you have wide receivers and then do you

725
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 5: take advantage of the. Situation SO i Get baker credit

726
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 5: for battling through part of his career that wasn't. Great

727
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 5: And i've been a skeptic of him at times as.

728
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 5: WELL i think he Realized my thing about him, is,

729
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 5: look THE nfl does a great, job will humble. You.

730
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: Right it's a great lead for. That AND i think

731
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 5: he got a little bit too. Big he was doing

732
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 5: those commercials when it wasn't time to do. Commercials yet

733
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: he was feeling himself a little bit too, much and

734
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 5: THE nfl humbled. Him he humbled, himself and he's talked

735
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 5: about that as maturing as a player as a, person

736
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 5: and he's sort of hitting his stride. Now and So

737
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 5: i'm happy For. Baker this is about. RIGHT i max

738
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 5: you get For Baker mayfield is about ten and again

739
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 5: in a given, year maybe It's love ten Or dac

740
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 5: ten somewhere around. There BUT i THINK gms appreciates how

741
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: well he's played given the situation he's in. Now in his,

742
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 5: TOUGHNESS i think you see him truck guys for first

743
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 5: downs and. Whatnot people remember those type of.

744
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: Plays, yeah, Listen baker's been tremendous the last two. Years

745
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: let me, Ask we hear a lot about Well Jalen

746
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: hurts as a stacked deck And Jared goff Had Ben.

747
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 2: Johnson let's not Forget.

748
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: Baker mayfield has had arguably the best wide receiver duo

749
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: in the league for the last two, Years evans And.

750
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: Godwin evans is A hall Of, Fame locke And godwin is.

751
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: ELITE i, MEAN i don't know if they're the best

752
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: wide receiver. Duo they're not better Than higgins And, chase

753
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: but they're certainly.

754
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Top four at.

755
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: Worst it's, like, hey you, KNOW i don't even remember

756
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: who the quarterback was Before, baker But i'm fairly certain.

757
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: They got to the.

758
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: Playoffs you, know with that with that duo at wide, receiver,

759
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: like is he getting more more of a, leash, say

760
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 3: than Than Kyler?

761
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 5: Murray, well look, ABSOLUTELY i think you do have to

762
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: wait how you judge a quarterback based on what they

763
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 5: have around. Him but, again the production is, there, RIGHT i,

764
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 5: mean forty five hundred yards is four five hundred, yards

765
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: whether you have great guys or not great. GUYS i

766
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 5: mean it's, there like so to, me the standard is, this, Right,

767
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 5: like you have a good, roster do you play? Good

768
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 5: and the answers, yes, right he's played good to good.

769
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: Roster if you have a good roster play, poorly that's a.

770
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 5: Knocklock you, know of, course those guys that have poor

771
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 5: rosters to elevate those rosters around. Them so to, Me

772
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 5: baker's doing what he has to do. Right he's playing

773
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 5: well with the pieces around him that are. Good if

774
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 5: he DID j, mcaver it'd be a.

775
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: Problem.

776
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 5: Correct SO i think that's a. Point AND i think,

777
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: Too baker feels like a player maybe feel is not

778
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 5: the right word to use, here that does elevate people

779
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 5: around him right where he's not just along for the.

780
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 5: Ride he makes plays that make everyone. Better and then

781
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 5: that's a part of the evaluation, here, right do you

782
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 5: make everyone better around? YOU i Think baker is one

783
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 5: of those guys that WHEN i watch him, play everyone

784
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 5: around him is better because of the play that he's providing.

785
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: Them, yeah all, right great, Stuff Jeff. Swurtz let me

786
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: quickly get one more short one In we got a.

787
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: Minute but college football a lot of talk about this

788
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: salary cap as a guy who just missed the nil.

789
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: Era, jeff let me.

790
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: Just, quickly is this kind of, silly this union? Talk

791
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: and it's just it's been an interesting summer to say the.

792
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: Least but union will never. Happen as someone who's part

793
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: of THE, nflpa it's never too many players to make

794
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 5: a college. Union. Ye to, ME i would just let

795
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: them make whatever they need to, make like it's it's fair,

796
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 5: market free. Market just these guys are making. Money let

797
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: them make. Money it has even out the playing field

798
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 5: over all the. Sports look at the parody we have

799
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 5: in a given, year all over the sports now because

800
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 5: teams are able to pay guys and keep guys as

801
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 5: well and transferport all. Whatnot so to, me it's. Fine

802
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: the way it is is needs some, refining, absolutely the

803
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 5: need some some maybe some more rules and some more

804
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 5: eyeballs to. It, yes but sold cap is never. Happening

805
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 5: it's it's just it's just too many moving. Parts it

806
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 5: will never.

807
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: Happen, Jason all, right good, Stuff Jeff. Schwartz i'm in full. Agreement.

808
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: Obviously catch him on The Bare bets Podcast FOX Nfl.

809
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: Analysts have a great, Summer, jeff thank, you take care all,

810
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: right coming up.

811
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: Next, LISTEN i tease The Caitlin clark.

812
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: Nickname some people are gonna, laugh Some clark fans are

813
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: gonna be.

814
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: Outraged where we'll talk about that next here on The.

815
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 7: Hurd be sure to catch live editions of The herd

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00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 7: weekdays and Neonon eastern not A.

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Speaker 2: Empacific all right back here on The. Herd oh, boy

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Speaker 2: this is this next.

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Speaker 3: Guest i've known this, GUY i don't, know probably SINCE

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00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: i got here TO fs one like nine years, ago

821
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: and we would run into each other and he was

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Speaker 3: a little taken aback by some of my.

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Speaker 2: TAKES i had to take him to, school you.

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Speaker 9: Know.

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00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: Uh and then the old dog taught me some new.

826
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: Tricks so let's. Begin Chris. Bussard first things, first the,

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Speaker 2: man you.

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00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 6: Didn't tell the.

829
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 9: Story you didn't tell the story about how when you

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00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 9: were a cub reporter In New. York, YES i was

831
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Speaker 9: the only vet that was kind to, you that is.

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Speaker 9: All everybody else was blowing you, off AND i was

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Speaker 9: kind to.

834
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: You SO i was this young guy in a newspaper

835
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: In jersey AND i was crushing, it AND i had

836
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: a couple job, offers so they were, like, oh we gotta.

837
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: THROW i can tire a bone to keep him.

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Speaker 3: In SO i went to A usa basketball thing In

839
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: Madison Square garden AND i walk in wide.

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00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: Eyed i'm trying to talk to. People, hey where DO

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Speaker 2: i plug in my?

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: Computer and these guys are brushing me, off And bruceard's, like,

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Speaker 3: hey young, fella takes.

844
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: Me under his.

845
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: Wing, Listen Bruce ard is a great. GUY i like

846
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: how you were in A jets tie your shows In New.

847
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: York how Much jet's gonna do this? Season, brew what

848
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: are we looking at ten and? Seven?

849
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 5: Look Justin?

850
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 9: Field, No i'm not going ten and. Seven i'm excited

851
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 9: About Aaron. Glenn i'm somewhat excited to See Justin. FIELDS

852
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 9: i think they will cater the offense to. Him they

853
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 9: won't try to fit him into a square peg into a,

854
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 9: circle SO i think he'll be.

855
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 6: Okay But i'm not going ten and. Seven they're not

856
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 6: making the, playoffs all?

857
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: Right what big talking point so far today is this

858
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: quarterback list that came. Out i'm sure you guys are

859
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: gonna chop it up on first things first, next But,

860
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 3: BREW i gotta ask.

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00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: YOU i had some issues with the. LIST i did my.

862
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: OWN i Had Patrick mahomes coming in at, four coming

863
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: off his worst season as a.

864
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: PRO i had Brock perty in. THERE i Love Jalen hurts. It.

865
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: Five i'm just curious if.

866
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: We could get my list on the screen and you

867
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: want to kind of poke holes in. IT i, mean

868
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: there's really not a lot you can. DO i know

869
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: you're good at, this but this is kind of at.

870
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 6: Previous Patrick mahomes is number. One what are you talking?

871
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 6: About he is in a category by.

872
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 9: Himself, OKAY i will give you if this season he

873
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 9: comes out and plays the mediocre by his standards type

874
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 9: of football he did last year and there they win

875
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 9: ten or eleven, games get bounced in the first or

876
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 9: second round of the. Playoffs, sure then you can move him.

877
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 9: Down but until further.

878
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 6: Notice he is the.

879
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 9: Best not much of a receiving corps at. All last,

880
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 9: year offensive line on the, blink and yet he still

881
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 9: goes fifteen.

882
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 6: And one and gets his team to the Super. Bowl i'm.

883
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 9: Sorry he is the. Best he'm the best Quarterback i've ever, seen.

884
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 9: Period he's not the goat. Yet he's got to do

885
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 9: more and win more championships to get To. Brady but come, on,

886
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 9: man dude is number. One he's in the category of his.

887
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 9: Own outside of, That i'm Putting lamar ahead Of Joe.

888
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 9: Burrow if your argument For Josh allen what he has

889
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 9: been better in the postseason Than, Lamar but right NOW

890
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 9: i would SAY i would Put lamar in.

891
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: Two BUT i.

892
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 9: Understand the playoff. ARGUMENT i think YOU i Like hurts

893
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 9: like you. Do but AND i get. It it's only one.

894
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 9: Year but right Now i'm going with jayde And daniels at.

895
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 9: FIVE a lot of People Jade, Daniels, yeah the poise he,

896
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 9: showed the clutch play that he.

897
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 6: Showed he didn't have the greatest, weapons you, know outside

898
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 6: Of terry.

899
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 9: McLaurin so he is a special, quarterback best rookie season

900
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 9: we've ever.

901
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 6: Seen i'll put him at.

902
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: Five all, right let's.

903
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: Pivot to THE nba brew before he gets To. LEBRON

904
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 3: i know he's your, guy you Know lebron and his camp.

905
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: FOREVER i want to start With Cooper. Flag there's a

906
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: lot of. DOUBTERS i heard some people, say, hey he

907
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: could he could be Aimed Andre kirolinko in the. PROS

908
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: i was, like come, on, guys, Sorry Baron, davis that's not.

909
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: Happening they didn't shut Down Andre kirolinko after Two Summer league.

910
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: Games But Cooper flag is gonna be the. TRUTH i

911
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: said he could be A Kevin garnett type. Player obviously

912
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: not THE mvp right out of the, gate BUT i

913
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: love the, defense the, handle everything about his game just scream.

914
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: Superstar where are you On Cooper flag after Two Summer league?

915
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 6: Games, WELL i think he'll be a better score Than. Garnet, like,

916
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 6: offensively he can do it.

917
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 9: All he can shoot the, three he's got the mid range.

918
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 9: Shot he can post a little, bit AND i think

919
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 9: we'll post better as his career goes. On he, can you,

920
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 9: know lead the fast, break can obviously take it to

921
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 9: the hole and, dunk so he can DO i think

922
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 9: his offensive package is way better Than garnet's you know

923
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 9: when you you know you compare those. Two BUT i

924
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 9: think he can be a, Superstar like his ceiling is SUPERSTAR,

925
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 9: mvp can you, know and maybe winning it a time or.

926
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 9: Two i'm not saying he'll definitely be. There WHAT i

927
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 9: have said is he's definitely a. Star the question is

928
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 9: will he be a? Superstar AND i get that he

929
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 9: struggled in the first game in The Summer league where

930
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 9: he really. Struggled was just that his shot wasn't. Falling you,

931
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 9: know he did everything else, well he led the, break

932
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 9: he obviously had the big defensive play and the assist.

933
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 6: While leading the break at the end of the game

934
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 6: to win.

935
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 9: It and THEN i you know, WHAT i like J

936
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 9: Matt he knew he said it WAS i think his

937
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 9: worst game or one of his worst games of his. Life,

938
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 9: right what does he? DO i like the fact that

939
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 9: he clearly looked in the, mirror was upset with, himself

940
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 9: and then goes out the next night and scores half

941
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 9: of his team's points with thirty One like that shows a.

942
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 9: Dog and people have questioned, that like wonder does he

943
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 9: have that any will he take? Over does he let

944
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 9: the game come to him too? Much in that game?

945
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 9: Too in The Summer, league he took. Over AND i

946
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 9: like the way he responded to a disappointing game. One so,

947
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 9: YEAH i think he is the truth and great great

948
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 9: luck and fortune for The dallas.

949
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: Map yeah, yeah fortune favors the. BOLD i think something nonsense.

950
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: Said let me just ask. You this just came to

951
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: me listening to you gas up. Flag seems like we're

952
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: on the same. Page i'm gonna ask, You, chris if

953
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: you're building AN nba, team AND i, said next seven,

954
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: years you got him locked? Up are you Taking Cooper

955
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: flag OR?

956
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: SGA?

957
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 6: Sgs oh REMEMBER SGA sg stop? It, yeah we.

958
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 9: Don't we don't know That Cooper flag will Ever and

959
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 9: as much AS i like you will ever be the

960
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 9: number one player and lead a team to a, championship

961
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 9: that's totally up in the. Air AND sga has done

962
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 9: it at the age of twenty, six, oh by the,

963
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 9: way doing it with the young the second youngest team

964
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 9: ever to win AN nba. Championship, no and here's the other,

965
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 9: thing J, MATT sga still has plenty of room to.

966
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 9: Grow his three point shot is nowhere near where it

967
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 9: will be over the next two, three four, years.

968
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 6: So he can get even. Better.

969
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 9: Wow and so there's no question it ain't Look flag

970
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 9: looks like it'll be a good. Defender BUT sja also plays, defense, like,

971
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 9: no no, QUESTION sga all.

972
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: Day, wow that's a. Surprise, HONESTLY i would take like

973
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: six or seven guys OVER. Sga, yama why do take OVER? Sga? Hell, Yeah, Okay.

974
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 6: I'm not Putting Cooper flag In wimby's On winby's.

975
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: Tier are, you, well we'll see after a. Year i'm extremely.

976
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: BOTH i Asked Rick.

977
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: Buker over under one and a half MVPs For cooper

978
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: flag in his.

979
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: CAREER i took the. Over, well here's, LOOK i said.

980
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 9: It the ceiling For Cooper flag Is. Superstar the Ceiling

981
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 9: i'm not predicting, this but the ceiling For Victor winmbanyama is.

982
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 9: Goat that's the. Ceiling he can't be to? Go is

983
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 9: that what you're telling?

984
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 6: You he can't be to?

985
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: Go we're.

986
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 6: How many guys are you saying could be the go?

987
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 6: Him who? Else right? Now are we looking at? That

988
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 6: would they?

989
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: Disagree BUT i do think given.

990
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 3: What he's accomplished through his first six or seven, SEASONS

991
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: i Think Luka doncic could be in the. Goat his

992
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: numbers are going to be, there for.

993
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 6: Sure defense isn't.

994
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 9: There the defense is not, there but you know what

995
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 9: he's gonna, Look, Yeah, jordans they were great. Defenders Obviously Win.

996
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 9: Banyama so when you talk about, goat you, nitpick and

997
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 9: that would be a knit to pick On.

998
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: Luca, yeah, no the defense is not quite. There by the,

999
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: way let's talk About luca on The Lakers luca's getting

1000
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: a little. Skinnier by the, way do you believe? This

1001
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: luca's thin and He's are you believing this based on

1002
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: pictures Seeing luca at at A jordan party and you,

1003
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: Know greece or wherever he was over.

1004
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 6: He then, look he did look awfully. THIN i mean

1005
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 6: it was. Noticeable but come, ON i don't, know he's

1006
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 6: looked good in the you, know in the summers.

1007
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 9: Before, right we've looked at. Him oh, Wow luca's slimming.

1008
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 9: Down BUT i will say, THIS i, mean obviously playing

1009
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 9: With Lebron james may change your perspective for a.

1010
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 6: Positive. Right you look at the Way lebron. Works you

1011
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 6: look at him.

1012
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 9: Doing what he's doing at forty years, old and you

1013
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 9: MAYBE i would think a competitor would, say, Man i'm

1014
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 9: gonna start doing some of that.

1015
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 6: Stuff so that could be good For.

1016
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 9: Luca and also he is entering that like you talked

1017
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 9: about what he's done over the.

1018
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 6: First six years of his, career and he's been.

1019
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 9: PHENOMENAL i Love, luca but doesn't yet have AN mvp

1020
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 9: and obviously doesn't have a, championship and so he is

1021
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 9: now at that stage jamac where until he wins a,

1022
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 9: ring there is going to be a little bit.

1023
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 6: Of criticism of.

1024
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 9: Him like people will give him, love don't get me,

1025
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 9: wrong but it'll be like, okay when you're gonna.

1026
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 6: Win and they've all faced.

1027
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 9: It, Jordan, lebron everyone who has taken several years to

1028
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 9: win as probably the best, player one of the best

1029
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 9: players in the, league get starts to get that, criticism

1030
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 9: and that.

1031
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 6: Can spark you to work. Harder and SO i think

1032
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 6: this could be good For.

1033
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 9: Luke he's getting a little bit of criticism and so

1034
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 9: NOW i think that can spark him to.

1035
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 6: Work harder on, defense work harder on his, body and

1036
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 6: come back as an even better. Player.

1037
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm trying to look it, Up, breu but it

1038
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: looks Like lebron And jordan both won their first title

1039
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: at twenty. Seven is that accurate right around? There So

1040
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: luca's like right in line with. That it's not a

1041
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: big it's not a, race just you can get the first,

1042
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: title you, know it's a. Marathon and Watching luca work,

1043
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 3: AGAIN i know people don't like WHEN i hear Putting

1044
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 3: luca on the, goat but he makes everyone around him

1045
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: better the Way magic, did the Way lebron did the

1046
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: Way jokic does differ From.

1047
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 9: Magic here's why certain players he does make, better and

1048
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 9: say With, lebron they make certain players. Better but because

1049
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 9: this When lebron was in his, prime because they are

1050
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 9: so ball, dominant it is tough to fit pieces around them.

1051
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 9: Right you have to fit the right pieces Around Like

1052
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 9: magic was. Different magic was such such a great playmaker

1053
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 9: that everyone on the team could be the best version of.

1054
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 9: Themselves you haven't seen that With lebron through his career

1055
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 9: Or luca through his. Career and that's the. Different that's

1056
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 9: just the ball dominant. Era some of these guys are

1057
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 9: just too ball. Dominant But luca is phenomenal, Obviously and

1058
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 9: So i'm just pointing that.

1059
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: Out ball, dominant like the free throw merchant. Ga, anyways

1060
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: let's quickly. Go So i'm just some heat On friday

1061
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: For DeAndre. Ayton, listen, statistically just, statistically first seven years

1062
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 3: averaging fifteen and ten and shooting fifty.

1063
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: Percent in a.

1064
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 3: Class, listen that's pretty good for, centers especially in this

1065
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: era where it's not really they're not.

1066
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: Getting the ball as.

1067
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: Much SO i think eight is a steal at eight

1068
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 3: million dollars when you Consider Rudy gobert's at like thirty five,

1069
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: MIL i would take eight and at Eight mili over.

1070
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: Him, however It's DeAndre.

1071
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 3: Ayton he he was a malcontent In, portland he was

1072
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: kind of lazy In.

1073
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: Phoenix do you think he could turn it around playing

1074
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: With luca And?

1075
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 9: Lebron, Yeah i'm with you on. That, NOW i don't

1076
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 9: know how far you. Went how you were talking about

1077
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 9: a class you put him? In what class did you

1078
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 9: actually put him?

1079
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: In so the guys who are, fifteen ten and fifty

1080
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: percent shooting our centers Like jannis And jokic.

1081
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: And elite, guys and, again statistically he's.

1082
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: In that's not in that he's not as good As

1083
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: nobody would say, that come on.

1084
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 6: What other than you, apparently but, no but.

1085
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 9: LOOK i otherwise otherwise beyond saying he's With giannis And,

1086
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 9: Jokicic i'm with, you all, RIGHT i. AGREE i THINK

1087
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 9: i don't understand why certain people have payned this move

1088
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 9: to Get DeAndre ayden. Intradiculously people love The Mark williams

1089
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 9: acquisition right, today obviously killed he's better Than Mark williams

1090
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 9: statistically and. Period, okay he's gonna be a great fit With.

1091
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 9: Luca he obviously will be great on the lives From.

1092
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 9: Luca and then he's got the short mid range shot

1093
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 9: that is darned near. AUTOMATIC i, mean he really is

1094
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 9: good at that. Level WHAT i want to see From DeAndre,

1095
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 9: ayton his problem has really been his, attitude, moodiness his,

1096
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 9: motor a lack. Thereof at, TIMES i want to see him, say,

1097
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 9: Look i'm playing with the best player of this generation

1098
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 9: and another guy that could be the best player of

1099
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 9: his generation In. Luca we have a chance to do something.

1100
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 9: Special i'm giving my awe or the defensive, end and

1101
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 9: then don't be so moody, again Like, luca learn From

1102
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 9: lebron is. Example AND i agree with. YOU i think

1103
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 9: it was a great move by The. Lakers i'm not

1104
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 9: saying it puts him over the top to win the,

1105
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 9: champion BUT i think it was a great. Move and,

1106
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 9: look they're right. THERE i think right now you would, Say,

1107
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 9: okay See, Denver houston And minnesota are better than The,

1108
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 9: lakers but The lakers are good enough where there's, hope.

1109
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 6: Like they should go out there like we have hope

1110
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 6: that we can do something special this.

1111
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: Year if The lakers Get Bradley. Beal they're the favors

1112
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: of The. West let's quickly go To. Lebron, oh, no stop,

1113
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: that let's go To. LEBRON i have to ask you about.

1114
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: This you know this guy as well as.

1115
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: Anybody he's been leaving bread crumbs on social media for

1116
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: a couple weeks. Now he's Using Rich paul to get

1117
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: his thing out that he's not happy with The, lakers

1118
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: not really feeling the love From polinka and.

1119
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 2: Company they're, good they're Showering.

1120
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: Luca please tell the audience there's zero Chance lebron's getting.

1121
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: Traded, zero they're. NOT i won't.

1122
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 9: SAY i won't say, zero BUT i am with. YOU

1123
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 9: i don't think he's getting. TRADED i think he starts

1124
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 9: the season with The. Lakers, now if for some reason

1125
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 9: it goes terror what they try to move him at the,

1126
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,479
Speaker 9: deadline maybe get him to a team with a chance

1127
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 9: to do something in the. Playoffs, yeah something like. That

1128
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 9: BUT i don't see it going.

1129
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 6: Terrible.

1130
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 9: Right they were fifteen and eight With lebron And luca

1131
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 9: last year And jamack the teams they beat they Beat houston,

1132
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 9: twice they Beat denver, twice they Beat Oklahoma, city they

1133
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 9: Beat New. York they Beat, indiana like those fifteen wins

1134
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 9: weren't against chump, Change like they.

1135
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 6: Weren't playing good.

1136
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 9: Basketball and that was on the, fly, right that was

1137
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 9: when a roster not built Around.

1138
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,479
Speaker 6: Luca it was on the. Fly lebron had.

1139
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 9: To all of a sudden adjust to be in the

1140
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 9: second guy, offensively and they still played good. Basketball so

1141
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 9: you would expect them to be. Better you, KNOW Jj

1142
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 9: reddick has spent all offseason trying to figure out what's

1143
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 9: the best way to Maximize lebron And luca and the other.

1144
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 6: Parts.

1145
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 9: Together you add a good center And DeAndre ayton that

1146
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 9: you didn't have a year.

1147
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 6: Ago like, Again i'm not.

1148
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 9: Predicting at this moment that they're gonna win the, Championship

1149
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 9: but If i'm The, Lakers i'm saying we are one

1150
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 9: of a handful of teams with two ALL nba level

1151
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 9: players In luca And, lebron and we've got a good

1152
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 9: cast of role. Players, now they need more athleticism on the,

1153
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 9: wing they need more, shooting but they're good enough where you,

1154
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 9: can AS i, said you should go into this season.

1155
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 9: Hopeful so, look IF i could get this isn't even

1156
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 9: possible because of the.

1157
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 6: Second apron rules and.

1158
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 9: Stuff but IF i could get Like Darius garland And

1159
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 9: Jared allen For, LEBRON i would do.

1160
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 6: If i'm, like now you.

1161
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 9: Have, ayton so you may not Need allen contract that

1162
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 9: type of, package you, know but those are but those

1163
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 9: are guys that can play Off luca in the future

1164
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 9: and the. Present See Darius GARLAND i think would be

1165
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 9: good Off luca because he can. Shoot and then Obviously

1166
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 9: allen with the defense and finishing at the rim Off

1167
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 9: luca would be. Good So i'm looking at them as

1168
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 9: guys that will help.

1169
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 6: You be good in the present and.

1170
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 9: Beyond SO i would do, That but again that's not even,

1171
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 9: possible SO i.

1172
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 6: Don't, YEAH i don't see The.

1173
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 3: Lakers when The suns get rid Of Bradley. Beal The

1174
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 3: lakers could get it for five million. Dollars Bradley beal.

1175
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 2: Is the missing.

1176
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 3: Piece you can just go ahead and get the parade

1177
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: ready for The lakers if they Get Bradley.

1178
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: BEAL i know the.

1179
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 6: PEOPLE i am not nearly, yea AND.

1180
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 2: I like watching.

1181
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 6: It i'm just first of, All i'm not sure they'd

1182
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 6: even Get.

1183
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 9: Bial you, know obviously he's gonna have a lot of,

1184
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 9: Options BUT i don't know that he wants to go

1185
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 9: there and be at best the third banana like he

1186
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 9: would come off the bench.

1187
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: Right so you want to, WIN i don't know.

1188
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 6: That i'm not Sure i've been talked to.

1189
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 9: IT i don't know that he wants to do that,

1190
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 9: Though so it might be attitude.

1191
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 6: ISSUES i just don't see.

1192
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 9: That maybe a nice pickup if you can get him

1193
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 9: and he's got the right.

1194
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: Attitude my main, Man Chris, brussard he's on first things.

1195
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: First after this, brew anytime you want to lose AN nba,

1196
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 3: battle just holler at your.

1197
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: Boy we'll chop it.

1198
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 6: Up.

1199
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 2: Man have a great summerbout.

1200
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 6: IT i won't tell the.

1201
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 9: Audience we used to have a whole segment on my

1202
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 9: podcast WHERE i beat you.

1203
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 5: Down it was literally Called.

1204
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 6: Knockdown, jay and you Were.

1205
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: Jay so why we talk about Star man all? Right

1206
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: coming up next year on The? Herd what are the sons?

1207
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: Doing Bradley Beal AND i got a guest who you

1208
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 3: are going to love to talk, About Kyler, murray who

1209
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 3: he thinks is better Than brock Party away