1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants one hundred players, presented by Bud Light. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm Bob Papa, joined by Judy Battistap, longtime NFL reporter 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: covering the National Football League NFL media and Judy, you 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: were part of this Blue Ribbon panel of thirteen to 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: cull down the list of over the five thousand players 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: to wear a Giants uniform since nineteen twenty five to 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: zero one on the Top one hundred, And it was 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: an exhaustive process, but it was a fun process to 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: really understand the history of the franchise. 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: It was awesome because first of all, I went down 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: the rabbit hole on YouTube videos and in reference books, 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: so that took up a whole lot of days just 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: doing research. But it was hard. I think the hardest part, 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: the most challenging part was comparing players across eras of football. 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: But it's a great walk down memory lane for a fan. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a fun countdown in this Top one hundred. 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: So in this episode, we're going to discuss positions ninety 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: one through one hundred and at ninety one is Lawrence 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Tynes and at one hundred is Richie Seibert and Lawrence 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: I'll start with you. You know, when you think about 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: the magnitude of this franchise and you think of players 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: that have played here, what was your initial reaction to 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: finding out that you were one of the top one 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: hundred of all times? 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: It was humbling, emotional. You think about your career all 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: in one little thirty second snap and hung up the phone. 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: Talked to my wife. I'm like, I just got named 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: top one hundred players in the Giants franchise history. It's humbling. 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: I'm getting a little emotional right now thinking about it. 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: But Undrafted walk on, come to this iconic franchise, play 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: with great players, great teammates. I was fortunate to be 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: on great teams with the great players. But humbling is 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: the word that this comes to mind. I mean, there's 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: been so many great players and great men wear this uniform. 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Richie, like Lawrence, undrafted made it as a free agent, 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: went through all of your trials and tribulations, your feelings 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: and emotions when you found out that you had made 38 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: this list. 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: When you called me, Bob, I was I thought you 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: were joking at first. The tradition here with the New 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: York Football Giants and being part of the top one 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: hundred I think being the one hundred pick is probably 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 4: the hardest one to be so it was an honor 44 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: to me and my family. Ten seasons with the New 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: York Football Giants. This place is pretty much my home, 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: so it's pretty special. 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: Your career, obviously is one of perseverance because it looked 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: like your career might end prematurely because of an injury. 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: What inspired you to fight through all of that to 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: go on to become a two time Super Bowl champion. 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 4: My teammates, right, my coaches, the training staff, Ronny Barnes 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: and Byron Hanson and Steve and those guys, they never 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: gave up on me, and they kept pushing me to 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: come back. And I really had nothing else to fall 55 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: back on, too, so I had to find a way 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: to make it back on that football team. Mister Mara, right, 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 4: give me a second chance to play for the New 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: York jo again and the coaches, and it was tough, 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: but I'm glad I did it because Super Bowl forty 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: two was a special moment. 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: Seventeenth thirteen at the final Okay, seventeenth thirteen, Fella. 62 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: What tucked down? 63 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 5: We are world tempy, believe. 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: It, and it will happen when you walked away. Did 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: you think you had anything left? Was there any sort 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: of sense of what if? What if I hadn't had 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: all those injuries? 68 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, for a few years. 69 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: I look back on it now and I don't look 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: at it like that anymore. But I said, what if 71 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: I'd never made it back from breaking my leg, I 72 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: probably would be running my parents' restaurant back in Wisconsin 73 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: that they sold a few years ago. So I'm glad 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: I'm still living in New Jersey coaching high school football. 75 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: I'm glad I got to play for another six seven 76 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: years after that injury. And there's nothing better. Right, If 77 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: you love the game of football, why why didn should 78 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: you give it everything you have to make it back? 79 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 6: What about Lawrence is a teammate? 80 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: Lawrence was awesome. I know he's just a kicker, but right, Lawrence, 81 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: no offense, he was awesome. Right the kick he made 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 4: in Green Bay? 83 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 7: All right here it goes times again from forty seven 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 7: yards to kick the Giants to the Super Bowl. Snap 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 7: is good kick on its way and O brat does 86 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 7: it have the distance? 87 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: It us good? Lawrence? 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 7: Time is kick the Giants to the Super Bowl, and 89 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 7: the New York Giants are going to Super Bowl forty 90 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 7: two ain't over time. 91 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 5: They beat the Packers twenty three twenty. 92 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: I got the picture of it in my basement, right, 93 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 4: so teammates, he said it before. 94 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 5: Our locker room was pretty special. 95 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: People always ask me what separated different teams I played 96 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 4: on and the good teams compared to the not so 97 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 4: well seasons, And it's the guys in the locker room. 98 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: I think if you if you get together, you love 99 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: each other, you play for each other. It makes a difference. 100 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: We had a lot of fun, but we got a 101 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: lot of work done too. 102 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: What about him as a teammate, he's the best you guys, 103 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: everyone knows Richie Serbert, right, that whole offensive line. 104 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: You know. 105 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: It's funny as you get older, people say what was 106 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: so special about those teams, And it's a simple answer. 107 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: Our locker room was just different. Still to this day, 108 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: I know his family, I know all my teammates' families 109 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: and their kids. When you have that bond amongst you know, 110 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: sixty one guys, fifty three plus the practice squad. Like 111 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: our practice squad guys were pretty tight with I mean, 112 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: that's how special the group was. And he was leader 113 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: of the pack right. We all knew his story, the 114 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: adversity he fought through to come back, and the offensive 115 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: line is kind of the glue of the team, right. 116 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: They just had so many great personalities, great players, just 117 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: the best. And I could say that for you know, 118 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: fifty other guys that were on our team. We were 119 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: we were so close. And that's to me, when it's 120 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: crunch time, that's the difference. I mean, that's the difference 121 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: in wins and losses. Can you trust the guy next 122 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: to you? And we could always trust that guy. 123 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: That two thousand and seven team. I look back on 124 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: it and think there was like a little bit of 125 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: magic with that team. Tom Coughlin was, you know, had 126 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: sort of had to go through this come to Jesus 127 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: conversation a little, you know, opening up of his personality. 128 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: There was some strife, there was some drama early in 129 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: the season, didn't get off to the best start, and 130 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: then here the wild card team and you play all 131 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: out against the Patriots in that regular season finale that 132 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: has nothing on the line except pride. And I remember 133 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: talking to John Mara before the Super Bowl about that game, 134 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: because you were going to play the Patriots again, and 135 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: he said that on the field before that game, he 136 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: was talking to Bill Belichick, and Belichick said as they 137 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: were shaking hands and about to leave each other, Belichick said, well, 138 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: I hope we see you again. And John Marris thinking 139 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: to himself, well, you're undefeated, you're going to the Super Bowl. 140 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: I don't know about us. And then of course you 141 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: go on this sort of magic ride, including the game 142 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: in Green Bay and then the huge upset in the 143 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So I always think that that team, more 144 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: than any of the other giant Super Bowl teams, had 145 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of something extra that you just can't 146 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: quite put your finger on. But it was there. 147 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: Do you guys feel it, especially the whole World Warriors thing. 148 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 4: Something clicked right. We loved going on the road together. 149 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: We love playing for each other. We don't want to 150 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 4: let each other down. We knew we had something special. 151 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: We just had to keep winning to win it. 152 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: You had the two overtime kicks in each of the 153 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: Super Bowl runs, which was the harder kick man. The 154 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: conditions were dreadful. 155 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: To the Green Bay Yeah, because of you know, missing 156 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: twice making twice missing at the end of regulation. Thank 157 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: God for Corey Webster, My god, I owe him so much. 158 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: You know, the defense just made a nice play, But 159 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: forty seven yards in that weather, I don't know that 160 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: I could have made it. If you line me up 161 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: ten more times, I don't know if I would have 162 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: made any of them. I just happened to make it 163 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: at that time. 164 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: It's still the longest kick, which is crazy, I've ever 165 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: made in lambeau Field in that direction. 166 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: In the playoffs. 167 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 6: In the playoffs. 168 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I keep waiting for it to get broken. 169 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: And I'll be honest with you, when I watch playoff games, 170 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, can we just move this up a little 171 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: bit because there's been some guys kicking they just haven't 172 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 3: made them. But yeah, that was really difficult just because 173 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: of the pressure I put on myself. I'm missing, but 174 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: still I still say is the best day I've had 175 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: kicking in my life because the conditions were miserable. 176 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, let's talk about some other guys on this list. 177 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: He was teammate of yours. He comes in at number 178 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: ninety seven, a Keen Knicks unbelievable who, by the way, 179 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: in Green Bay four years later in the divisional playoff 180 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: round when they were the number one seed, catches the 181 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: helmer at the end of the half, but was dominant. 182 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 6: You know, but that was the year of Victor Cruz, right, Yeah. 183 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: But a Keem Nix's postseason numbers stood until recently, and 184 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: his performance against the Falcons ough, his performance, you know, 185 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: throughout that postseason was incredible. 186 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 3: You know. A Keem was, as you guys know, kind 187 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: of low key quiet. When I think of a Keem, 188 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: I just think how cool he was. He was just 189 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: so cool, like he's just a cool customer, and he 190 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: broke out in that playoff game. I mean, he was 191 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: always a great player, but I remember vividly him taking 192 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 3: that one seventy eighty yards against the Falcons. 193 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 7: It's wide open at the forty forty five hundred were 194 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 7: a tackle. 195 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: There goes Dickson Tallance over another. 196 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 7: He's gonna score twenty ten touchdown Giants seventy two yards. 197 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 5: And he's doing the Ikey Sepher or the dirty bird. 198 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: And then obviously the hell Mary, which was a massive play. 199 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: We were just really gonna try and run the clock 200 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: out against the Packers, so that was a massive play. 201 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: I didn't expect it. I was thinking, maybe we'll get 202 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: a few yards here and kick a field goal, maybe 203 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 3: try a long kick, but that was a huge touchdown. 204 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 6: Six seconds to go. 205 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 7: Manning back step suck Keeves one down the middle of 206 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 7: the field into the end zone and. 207 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: Nix makes the catch for the touchdown. 208 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: He went up with the big hands and caught it. 209 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: On the hill. 210 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 6: Mary another final player of the half. 211 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: You know, my favorite picture from that year, that era 212 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: of Giants football is that picture of Victor, Hakeim and 213 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: Manning him walking off the field in San Francisco. 214 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 5: I have it in my house. 215 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: I think it's one of the coolest pictures in Giants history. 216 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: It's just their backs and they're walking towards the sideline. 217 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: I mean, those were three dudes. So I'm a big 218 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: fan of Hock And when you. 219 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: Talk about those three, I believe the records it still stands. 220 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,479 Speaker 2: A Keem I think still has the second most postseason 221 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: receiving hears in NFL history. I think that stands second 222 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: only to Larry Fitzgerald for that run in the room 223 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: twenty eleven. So when you see that picture of those 224 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: three and you know it was the year of VICTRT, 225 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: certainly like it's really Akeem that had the numbers that year. 226 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: The Keem was your teammate as well, he came in 227 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine as a rookie. What did you 228 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: think when he came into that locker room and. 229 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 6: What was it like getting to know him? 230 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: You knew that he had it right, Like Tyne said, 231 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: he was very calm, collective, he was cool. 232 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 5: He was a receiver. He's when receivers come in. 233 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 4: Every offensive lineman wants to be a wide receiver at 234 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: one time in their life. Catch a football right, score 235 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: a touchdown. But he fit right into that locker room right. 236 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: He came over and he talked to us as offensive lineman. 237 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 5: He was one of us. 238 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: He was a good player and I'm glad he was 239 00:10:58,960 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 4: on our team. 240 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: You know, the Giants, the tradition that they have, and 241 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: we've talked about it, whether it's DB's or linebackers or 242 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, offensive lineman. There's a great thread because the 243 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: franchise history has always been predicated on the run game. 244 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Number ninety nine Brad Benson part of that Super Bowl 245 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: twenty one team. They were a run team as well, 246 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: and the offensive line was greater than the sum of 247 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: its parts. In nineteen eighty six, the Suburban Nights, you 248 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: guys were kind of the same way right. 249 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 4: I would say, so right. We were five guys that 250 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: worked well together, just like they were. Obviously I knew 251 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: who Bred Benson is and I met them a couple times. 252 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 5: And great football player, a great person. We were very similar. Right. 253 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: We never had a name like the sur Suburban Knights, 254 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: but we played well together just like they did. 255 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: One of the things about that group they were undersized 256 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: even by league standards in eighty six, but it was 257 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: sort of the harmony that they brought together, which was 258 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: similar to these groups. 259 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: He played multiple positions on the offensive line in his 260 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: right and then I think maybe the game he is 261 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: best known for and deserves to be best known for, 262 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: is in the Super Bowl run. He basically canceled out 263 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: Dexter Manley in a late season game against Washington. At 264 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: the time, Dexter Manley was leading the league in sacks, Lawrence, 265 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: and so I am always amazed when offensive linemen played 266 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: multiple positions in the NFL, Like, to me, that's just 267 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: mind boggling that you can start at multiple positions in 268 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: the NFL. And that's what he did. 269 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen eighty six, the Giants had already beaten Washington 270 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: in Giants Stadium, so This game is at the old RFK. 271 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: If they win this game, they guarantee themselves the NFC East. 272 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: And that's the famous game with Brad Benson where his 273 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: nose was bleeding and the Giants went down there and 274 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: pretty much stuck it to Washington and closed things out 275 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: and finished the regular season fourteen and two. Judy number 276 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: ninety five on this list is a really interesting name 277 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: because any of these guys played with him, but they 278 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: both watched them share with him. 279 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 6: Number ninety five. 280 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: Saquon Barklay. This was I think for those of us 281 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: who were on the panel, this was a really hard 282 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: one to gauge what you do with a mid career 283 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: player who was so dynamic when he was healthy. Obviously 284 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 2: his rookie season was just spectacular. But again you're weighing 285 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: where is he in his career, what's he going to 286 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: do going forward after this. Obviously he's going to do 287 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: it for another team now. But he is on the 288 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: list because in my mind, so often he was the offense. 289 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,479 Speaker 2: When he was on the field, he was the engine 290 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: of the team. But again, this was a tough one. 291 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: We talked about comparing players from previous years. This was 292 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: really hard to place a mid career player who you 293 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: think has just so much further to goo. 294 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've covered him a little bit doing some podcast 295 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: work for the Post. You know, injuries always come first 296 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: of mind. When I think of SIQ one, I just 297 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: think about how classy you was. He was just always 298 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: so classy and humble. I'll remember that. And obviously the 299 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 3: playmaking ability was next level, like that rookie year, like 300 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: you mentioned, was unreal. You know, he did have the 301 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: ACL and then some things caught up to him. I 302 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: still think he's a good player, but obviously wish him 303 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: the best of luck. But he was a great giant. 304 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: I mean, he had to be on this list. You 305 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: can say what you want about where he's playing right now, 306 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: but classy human being did everything the right way and 307 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: was a really good player. 308 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you win the AP Offensive Rookie of 309 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: the Year and you rewrite the Giants record books in 310 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: your time here and the other thing that goes into it, 311 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: which is why you know he's worthy to be in 312 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: this top one hundred. 313 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 6: And was very emotional when I. 314 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: Spoke to him about it, nearly broke down in tears. 315 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: It was after he had already left the team, But 316 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: to be recognized in this great franchise really meant a 317 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: lot to him. And at the end of the day, right, 318 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: part of making this list is did other teams have 319 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: to gain plan for you? And they certainly had the 320 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: game plan for Saquon Barkley. 321 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: Great player, Right, Best of luck to him, except for 322 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: a couple times a year replay him what he did here. 323 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 5: With New York. He deserves to be on the list. 324 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: And I look at it as if I'm one hundred, 325 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: he's ninety six. We're not too far away, right, ninety five? Right, 326 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: people don't game plan for me. 327 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: Darryl Death comes in at number ninety two. So we'll 328 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: do a little history. Here's a guy that played left 329 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: guard pro bowler during that great run of Giants teams 330 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: that were going to championship games. He was part of 331 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: that offense. You know, people always thinking the Giants defensively, 332 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: but in the early sixties with y A. Tittle, their 333 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: greatest strength was offense. 334 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: And those numbers still stand. They still hold the franchise 335 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: scoring record. 336 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in nineteen sixty three of the year Tittle 337 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: was throwing thirty six touchdown passes. That record stood until 338 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: Dan Marino in nineteen eighty four. You know, thirty two 339 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: points a game for that Giant offense in nineteen sixty three. 340 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: Little different style than the way you guys played it, 341 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: but you know that tradition. Did you feel as an 342 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: offensive lineman and not knowing some of these guys from 343 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: yesteryear that there was a certain standard and tradition that 344 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: you guys were in charge of trying to uphold for 345 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: the franchise. 346 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: I think there was a toughness about us, right. I 347 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: think you had to be tough to be an offensive 348 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 4: lineman for the New York Football Giants. I think our coaches, 349 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: Coach McNally, coach Flaherty instilled that in us. The tradition 350 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: that was here. You had to be tough, you had 351 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: to be physically, need to be smart. 352 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 5: I think that's kind of what we all were from 353 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 5: back then until now. 354 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Going back to the eighty six team, Judy at number 355 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: ninety three is Terry Knark, part of that Giant defense 356 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: that won Super Bowl twenty one. 357 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 6: Played a long time for the New York Giants, was. 358 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: A Pro bowler. 359 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: You know, when you think about the secondary players for 360 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: those teams, sometimes they go a little bit unnoticed because 361 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: of you know, George Martin and Leonard Marshall and Jim 362 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: Burt and then Lawrence Tale or Carlbanks, Harry Carson, Gary Reasons, 363 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, and all those great players. But you know, 364 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: the secondary of those teams were kind of unsung heroes. 365 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: They were and the defensive front was murdering quarterbacks and 366 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: they were feeding off it. And again I find it 367 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: amazing that he had enough interceptions that he's still that 368 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: high on the Giants' all time list of interceptions. You 369 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: would think that in the succeeding you know, however many years, 370 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: it's been now forty years that as the game has 371 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: gone so pass heavy that somebody would have climbed over him. 372 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: Another player comes in at number ninety four, Eric Howard. 373 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: This is a guy that has one of the most 374 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: defining plays in the history of the franchise, the nineteen 375 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: ninety NFC Championship Game. The Niners are going for a 376 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: three peat Candlestick Park, Roger Craig never fumbles. The Giants 377 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: need a turnover, so Matt bark And kick that iconic 378 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: field goal like you kick to him to get the 379 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: Giants to. 380 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 6: The Super Bowl. 381 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: And it's Eric Howard who gets his hand, his fist 382 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: and his helmet in there to force the fumble that 383 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor recovered, and the rest, as they. 384 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 5: Say, is history. 385 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: I love when it's players that you don't think about 386 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: who make the dplay and the fact that he shared 387 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: that job with Jim Burton, then he took over that job, 388 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: and the fact that it's him who makes the play 389 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: and then obviously Lawrence recovers. I love when that happens, 390 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: when it's an unsung player who makes the play that 391 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: saves the season. 392 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: And he's part of that brilliant George Young drafting period 393 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: when you look at nineteen eighty four and Carl Banks 394 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: is the third overall pick, and then Eric Howard is 395 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: part of that eighty six class, and Pepper Johnson and 396 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: all those guys that are coming in eighty forty five 397 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: eighty six, kind of laying the foundation for these historic teams. 398 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: What George Young was so good at, I think is 399 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: he just kept replenishing the machine, right like he would 400 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: just just keep building, building, building, and so there was, uh, 401 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: there's not what you see so often with teams, which 402 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: is you know, going up and then going down and 403 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: going up and going down, like he just kept feeding 404 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: the beast with more and more players and putting them 405 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: in so that there was a bridge and it kept going. 406 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: There's always a player right at some point. Like if 407 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: you think about our Niners NFC Championship, those Special Team's 408 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: turnovers were massive. Jaikwan Williams makes a couple of plays, 409 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: he puts us in position. But you know, the one 410 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: story in Giants history that no one really talks about. 411 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: I think is one of the coolest things is me 412 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: and Zach Tassi talk about this all the time. Is 413 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: that Zach Gassi snapped a game winning field goal and 414 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 3: candlestick to a kicker wearing number nine for the New 415 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: York Giants as his father did at the same stadium 416 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: and the same upright smack. 417 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: Spot peckers owner has got the distance. 418 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 7: It is good, good and. 419 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 5: Nights are going to Tampa Bay. It's over for the 420 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 5: free paints. It's over. 421 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: It's really cool. Yeah, same upright somewhere. 422 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 6: Giants won. 423 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 3: It's got to It's got to be yass's both of them. 424 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: I want to make sure we mentioned Zach, but just 425 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: that is so cool to me. Did his father and 426 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: him have that moment at candlestick at the same upright, 427 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: and two guys wearing number nine kicking an NFC Championship 428 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: game Winn Figle. Pretty cool. 429 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: Willie Williams comes in at number ninety six. He's another 430 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: player that you know, played in that era when the 431 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: Giants weren't very good, but he was one of these 432 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: bright lights. Fourth in franchise history as far as interceptions 433 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: are concerned, and he had thirty five interceptions during the 434 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: course of his career. I'm happy was recognized by the 435 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: voters because a lot of times when guys don't play 436 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: on winning teams or play in those darker eras, they 437 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: kind of get forgotten by history. 438 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 6: But he was a fantastic player for the. 439 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: Giants, right, And I think what gets him on the 440 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: list and what got the panel's attention is that the 441 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: thirty five interceptions, again in the mid sixties at a 442 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: time when the ball was still not being thrown all 443 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: over the field the way it is now, and so 444 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: that number really stands out. And again the fact that 445 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: he's bill sixty years later, that that number is still 446 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: that high up on the interception Let's that's what gets 447 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 2: your attention. 448 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Thinking about this in nineteen sixty eight, he had ten interceptions, 449 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: So last time a Giant's defensive player has had double 450 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: interceptions to the season. 451 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: Well, incredible. 452 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 6: Coming in at number ninety eight. Eddie Price, so he 453 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 6: was in the Navy, loved the story World War. 454 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: Two, and played in the SEC at Tulane. And this 455 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: is another one of these guys that can't tell the 456 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: history of the franchise without talking about Eddie Price, and 457 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: his whole journey is so unique. 458 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: So he played in the nineteen fifties obviously after the war, 459 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: and he ran for more than one hundred yards in 460 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: three games and that was a franchise record that stood 461 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: until Saquon broke it. So oh well, right, I mean 462 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: that's the span of time. Again, this is a player 463 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: that you're not familiar with him, but numbers like that 464 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: just stand out chaining you think like you gotta find 465 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 2: a place on a list for a player like this. 466 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: Just an incredible rucor there. 467 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the average six yards to carry during 468 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: the course of his career, went to Pro Bowls in 469 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty one, fifty two, and fifty four, and he 470 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: held the single game record for rushing yards too for 471 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: the Giants, and had these phenomenal games. And I think 472 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: there was one season where he rushed for more yards 473 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: and teams in the league, which is nuts. So that's 474 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: how dominant he was. And again that's part of this 475 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: whole exercise. You know, Richie, I'm going to circle back 476 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: to you with this. You know the giants wants a giant, 477 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: always a giant. I know it has special significance. You 478 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: were around to experience mister Mahra and that phrase that 479 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: he coined. As you reflect upon it, especially after your retirement, 480 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: what did mister Maarra mean to you? And that phrase 481 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: as you got to live it. 482 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: Mister Marra was an awesome man. I broke my legue 483 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: in two thousand and three. He used to come to 484 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 4: visit me in the hospital. When people were tell me 485 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 4: I was probably done playing, mister mary told me to 486 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: work hard and I'll find a way back on that field. 487 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 4: Just by him being there, right, it meant a lot 488 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 4: to me. I think, once a giant, always a giant. 489 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: I never wanted to go play anywhere else. So I 490 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: was lucky enough to be a giant my entire career. 491 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: Me being in that hospital for twenty days and him 492 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: coming to see me, it gave me the opportunity actually 493 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: to see what kind of man he was. And he 494 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: didn't have to do that, right being the owner of 495 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: a franchise, you don't have to stop at the hospital 496 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 4: to see a player. That was what their three years 497 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 4: and pretty much out the door, probably if I didn't 498 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: come back, But he gave me hope, He gave me 499 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: a chance. Awesome family, obviously, awesome man and once a giant, 500 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 4: always a giant. It was my life, right like I 501 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 4: still come back to this day. I see you, I 502 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: see the guys in the facility, I see the guys 503 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 4: upstairs and the women upstairs. It's a special place and 504 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: I'm grateful to be a giant. 505 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: So aren't some Obviously the Mara family and the Tish 506 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: family in both of your playing eears so influential. What 507 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: does that all mean to you about once a giant, 508 00:23:59,200 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: always a giant. 509 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: It's a brotherhood. I mean there's guys I didn't play 510 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: with that obviously. Mark Collins lives in Kansas City. I 511 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: see him quite a bit at charity outings. It's pretty 512 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: cool to see all four Super Bowl rings in one 513 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: little place in Kansas. But I never met Mark Collins, 514 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: never played with him until four or five years ago, 515 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: and I felt like I knew him instantly because we 516 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: wore this helmet, and the same thing goes when the 517 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: old guys would come back. There's just an instant connection, 518 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: especially with all the teams that won Super Bowls. The 519 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: Giants did a lot for being my family, just the 520 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: franchise itself. But it's funny. I live in Kansas City. 521 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: We know they got a good football team and I 522 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: played there, But there's only one team I'll think about 523 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: and support the rest of my life. It's the Giants. 524 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: So it's a brotherhood. That's what Once a Giant, always 525 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 3: the Giant means. 526 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: I gotta ask, how often do you wear that ring? 527 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: Not very often, just special occasions, special occasions, which today 528 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: is once in a blue moon. I'll take it out 529 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 4: of the safe and put it on and smile. 530 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 6: How often do you wear yours? 531 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: Just events? Like I wore them last year obviously when 532 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 3: I was did the draft pick in Kansas City. That 533 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: was a lot of fun. Humbled to be asked to 534 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 3: do that, that was cool. So I wore both of them. 535 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: I felt pretty cool. To have too is insane, So yeah, 536 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 3: I don't wear them very often. 537 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: Judy, I want to thank you for being a part 538 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: of this process, not only the taping of this show, 539 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: but also all the hard work that you put in 540 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: in coming to this final number, which obviously was very 541 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: difficult to come to. 542 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: It was but a pleasure. 543 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me. 544 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: Lawrence congratulations, thank you your spot. And Richie congratulations on 545 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: your spot being voted the top one hundred players in 546 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: the history of this story franchise. I encourage everybody to 547 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: follow the Giants on all their social media platforms as 548 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: the countdown is underway. As we're taking a look at 549 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: the top one hundred players in the history of the 550 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. So for Judy Battista, Lawrence Tyn's, 551 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: Richie Seibert, I'm Bob pop up, thanks for joining us 552 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: for the Giants Top one hundred Players presented by bud 553 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: Light