1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, love me the dream once again here on a 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: fabulous sports Saturday, Fox Sports Saturday. We're broadcasting live from 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: the ti iraq dot com studios ty rag dot com. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: We're gonna help get you there. An on Matt Selection 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: FATS free Shipping, Free Road has a protection over ten 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: thousand recommending installers. Tire rack dot com the way tire 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: buying should be. It's been a long time coming, but 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: the long away to reunion is actually here. Harbin and 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Schwartz back together again. Jeff, how are you on this 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Saturday to just. 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: Two big ten legends talking radio? Two two big ten 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: legends that you are at Brewing Grad and me and 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: Orgon Grad. We're just two big ten legends talking ball today. 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm very glad that football is back. 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: Watching the end of a preseason game right now. That 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: I don't know a single player on either of these teams, 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: but it's football nonetheless, and we get We got Bryce 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: Young in a few minutes for the first time. We 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson earlier today looking pretty good out there. So 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: we got you know, got two weeks from today, Week zero, 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: USC is playing week zero, two weeks from today. So 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: lots of football coming up. 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, taking on the Spartans. And that's not Michigan State, 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: by the way, that would be San Jose. Look at 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: these are difficult weeks, these couple of weeks here, because 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: you know, we're just chomping at the bed. I mean, 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: we're waiting for football, Jeff. Once we get into the 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: football season, there's no looking back. And at the end 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: of a football season we always say the same thing, 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: the season is too short. Just when I get warmed up, boom, 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: it's gone. We got to wait another year for another 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: football season. All right, We got a lot to cover. Obviously, 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: the demise of the back twelve is going to be 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: a major subject matters forughout the course of the day. 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: But I want to start with an NFL team because 37 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna name drop big time right now, Jeff. 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: So last night I had dinner with my longtime friend 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson. Now you say, well, how do I know 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson. Well, Eric and I did television together for 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: a number of years in Los Angeles. He's become a 42 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: very dear friend, super super guy, and was with him 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: and his significant other and we were joined by Tyler Higbee, 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: the tight end for the Rams going into his eight 45 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: season as a Ram with his fiance. So it was 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: it was a nice dinner last night, and it was 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: really a contrasted times. You'll appreciate this, Jeffs. Tyler was 48 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: talking about the fact that they have fifteen days of 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: training camp. Yeah, fifteen days, and you know, and Eric's like, 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: you know, because I was working for the Raiders when 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: Eric was playing with the Rams. I mean we're talking 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: six weeks of training camp. Really, the whole month of 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: July was training camp in the NFL back in the day. 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: And that's two a days. By the way, As Eric 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: was reminding Tyler, that's two a day's in full uniform. 56 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: And I was thinking myself, I said, how are you 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: able to do that? Because he goes, yeah, I played 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: in every preseason game in my NFL career, and then 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: he would go into the regular season and still carry 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: the ball three hundred his rookie year, he had three 61 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety carries and fifty catches. After having two 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: A days for an entire summer and playing in every 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: preseason game, you know, it's it's different times. I get 64 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: all that, but that wasn't the question. So Eric and 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: I are looking at Tyler and this is a team 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: that is a year removed from winning the Super Bowl, 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the Vegas odds on over underwins 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: and the number is not changing. I literally just checked 69 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: it seconds ago. The over under for wins in the 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: Rams in twenty twenty three is six and a half. 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: Six and a half. Think about that for a second. 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: So if they go seven and ten and you bet over, 73 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: you win. Yeah, seven and ten, you go over, you win. 74 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: So we're asking Tyler, what's going on, dude? I mean, 75 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: because Jeff, you and I were, you know, we were 76 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: talking a lot last season as the Rams are going 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: through this Nightmary year. They had injuries, they had a 78 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: lot of factors and why they had such a miserable season. 79 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: But you, Rich Hornberger others I'm working with, insisted it 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: was an aberration. Don't worry, they'll be back. They'll be back. 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: In the conversation, well, Vegas, Vegas is not dumb. Vegas 82 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: is really smart, and they are not wavering on that 83 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: six and a half. So he insists that right now, 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is healthy, Aaron Donald's healthy, and I'm thinking, Okay, 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: if you have a healthy quarterback and you have a 86 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: healthy best defensive player in the league, you should win 87 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: at least seven games. So I'm going to get your input, 88 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: your thoughts on this Rams team that apparently, according to Vegas, 89 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: we can write off as any any potential playoff run 90 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: in twenty three. 91 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: Well, the Rams are pretty interesting because you know it 92 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: who they I was Sawn and Andrew Whitworth before our 93 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: name dropped. Two before the season, we were together in 94 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: Dallas for the offensive line seven, our offense line masterminds 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: that my buddy Duke Maniweather puts on and he said 96 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: that the Rams have either believe thirty five to forty 97 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: rookies in training camp right now. Now. Not all those 98 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: will will play right away. You know, one will be 99 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: the offensive line of Steve Velo is really good from TCU. 100 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: But they're just a team that has a one deep 101 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: and even that one deep has a lot of holes 102 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: in it, right, Like, who are the edge rushers? I 103 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: know that Aaron Donald obviously, who's playing linebacker right now? 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: The linebackers Christian rose Boom, Michael heck, Ernest Jones, Byron 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: Young who was just drafted in the third round. You 106 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: know secondary right A k Weatherspoon, Jordan Fuller, John Johnson 107 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: the third you know he's played for a while, we 108 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: know he's good. And then it's two players drafted last season. 109 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: So it's a very young team, okay. And if they 110 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: lose any one of the veteran players that they rely on, 111 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: whether it is obviously Stafford that we know what happens there. 112 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: But even at Tyler Higbee, right, they lose the right tackle, 113 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: Rob Havestein, they lose Donald again for a couple of games, 114 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: or Cooper Cup for a few games, there's just no depth. 115 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: There's nothing behind them right now. And I think actually 116 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 3: Sean McVay is excited this year to to be able 117 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: to coach up these young players, Like I feel like 118 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: he's rejuvenated to kind of start over again. But also 119 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: have the veteran quarterback right, So there's excitement there that 120 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: he's able to get these young players to eventually be 121 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: super stars and contributors one day. But that is why 122 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: the number is solo right now. The offensive wide they 123 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: paid Joe Nobloom to play left tackle. They're talking having 124 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: to move him to fill other spots because they're they're 125 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: weak at those spots too. Just like you don't want 126 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 3: to hear that the offensive line shuffling before the season. 127 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: The Jets are playing right now. I don't think starters 128 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: are playing very many starters, but you know the idea 129 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: of like of they're shuffling their offensive line, you don't 130 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: want to hear this three it's a season starts, and 131 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: so I think that's the concern with the Rams is 132 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: they're they're one deepest good, but really anything past one deep, 133 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: they have no depth. 134 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: So you're saying right now, because I'm sitting there thinking 135 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: to myself again, if I were a gambling man, which 136 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: I'm not, but if I were a gambling man and 137 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: I see that number six and a half and you 138 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: do a lot of gambling shows, you don't think this 139 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: team will win seven games. 140 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: I think it's more likely than not they win seven. 141 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: You know, part of it is their schedule as well. 142 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna post through schedule. I mean, the NFC West 143 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: is kind of interesting because right now I have Arizona 144 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: that's not trying to win this year, and I don't 145 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: have a quarterback, even though it's probably Brock and Seattle 146 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: has Gino Smith. I don't know if I feel like 147 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: great about Gino. It was good. I'm glad he got paid. 148 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for him personally, But as a quarterback, he's 149 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: just okay, Right. 150 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: Isn't Matthew Stafford the best quarterback in that division? 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: Yes? I think there's just concerns about his health for 152 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: seventeen games, right. 153 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean he he is better than Geno Smith. 154 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: He is better than Brock Purty. He is better than 155 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: Toyler Murray. 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 3: If you go with the belief that the best quarterback 157 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: wins each division, which really last year, if you look 158 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: at it, it was seven of eight divisions if you 159 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: have cousins as better than if you have cousins, excuse me, 160 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: better than Rogers last year. Right, It's a fair case 161 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: to make at certain times that so you would have 162 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: you would have Matt Stafford winning this division if he's healthy. 163 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just it was an amazing conversation, 164 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: by the way, great guy, Tyler Higbee. I mean it's amazing. 165 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: We were like, so, what is this like year five? 166 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: Because year eight you're eight? I goo, And Eric Dickerson 167 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: was saying to him, enjoy every second man, he goes. Yeah, 168 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: it seems like I just was a rookie. I said, yeah, 169 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: well that's life in general. He can go really quick. 170 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: But when you're a professional athlete and he enters a 171 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: rookie and you're looking ahead, you dreamt your whole life 172 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: at being a professional athlete, and you blink and it's over. 173 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: Even if you get in a ten year career in 174 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: the NFL, and then it's like, okay, now you got 175 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: the rest of your life, buddy. 176 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: I retired at thirty after playing eight seasons of the NFL. 177 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I mean it may not have seemed like 178 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: it was going quickly when you're in the midst of it, 179 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: especially during training, cap and everything else. 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What was it 232 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: fifty six yards to Khalil Herbert and then DJ Moore 233 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: sixty two yards. They got a big passing game going. 234 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: I'm well listening, like bombs away. Here we go, oh 235 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: Justin Fields back to his hey day at Ohio State. 236 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: But you do have an update on his final stats. 237 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: Three for three one hundred and twenty nine yards, two touchdowns, 238 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: a perfect passer radio one fifty eight point three. Am 239 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: I missing something here? 240 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? He he had three completion as you mentioned, I 241 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: think for negative three yards, negative two and negative two. 242 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: So he never didn't complete a ball over the one 243 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: at scrimmage today. 244 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: So all three passes were actually behind the line of 245 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: scrimmage and the receivers did the rest. Yes, yes, So 246 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: I shouldn't, like, you know, run out there and go 247 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: the over on touchdown passes by Justin Fields this year. 248 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 3: No, you shouldn't, Okay, I just want to update that. 249 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: I think you're fine. 250 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so a little deception played there. Let's 251 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: talk about the PAC twelve. Let's go back to the 252 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: day it completely unraveled where Cleavkoff walks in and he's 253 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: basically saying they got an Apple Plus deal. They would 254 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: pay EA school twenty million dollars, and by day's end, 255 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: seventeen's were gone, not including of course Colorado, who had 256 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: already left earlier that week. Now you're down to four 257 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: Stanford Cal, Washington State, Oregon State. We'll get to the 258 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: Stanford Cal situation with the ACC in a moment here. 259 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: This is something Jeff, you and I talked about at 260 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: length over the last couple of years about what was 261 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: happening with the PAC twelve. So many missed opportunities. We 262 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: go back when Larry Scott refused an opportunity to increase 263 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: the then packed into a Pack sixteen because he didn't 264 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: want to deal with the Longhorn Radio Network back in 265 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: the day. Now we're getting reports that they had a 266 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: deal done with ESPN offered even after sc and UCLA left, 267 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: that would have paid each school thirty million dollars. So 268 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: you're very close to the situation you've worked for the 269 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: PAC twelve network. What the f happened here? 270 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: So it's been a long time coming, it feels like, 271 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: and this process for the last year has been exhausting 272 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: the cover. I do Pacto Radio and have done it 273 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: for five years now, and it's just, oh man, it's 274 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: it's been it's been bad. And and look, this has 275 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: happened over really since since Laris Scott in two thousand 276 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: and ten, if you recall, try to get Texas and 277 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: Oklahoma into the Patrol Conference. It did not work. And 278 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: part of it, the reason why I did not work 279 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: is is because they weren't willing to kind of like 280 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: give in to Texas's demands for more money and for 281 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: really the Longhorn, the Longhorn Network. Right, So, okay, fine, 282 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: that happens. But again he was like the one of 283 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: the you know, larisaw was like one of the ones 284 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: that that tried, you know, to to make this happen. 285 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: Didn't happen. Okay, twenty fourteen, they can't get Pack twelve 286 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: network on DirecTV. A couple years later, ESPN offers to 287 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: buy Pack twelve network. They say no. And these decisions 288 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: over the years have led to the point when they 289 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: weren't going to get a competitive deal. Their reports come 290 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: out the last couple of days that ESPN offered thirty 291 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: million dollars a year, which is basically what all the 292 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: PAC twe schools ended up getting. And the Pack twelve 293 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: presidents said, no, we're worth more than that. We what 294 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: fifty million of school fifty million of school, which is 295 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: just ridiculous because that that's not of reality, right, it's 296 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: not of reality. They weren't getting fifty million dollars per school. 297 00:16:53,480 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: You hire consultants, you have smart The presidents of these 298 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: conferences are smart, like they're not dummies. And yet somehow 299 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: they were not able to figure out the value, right 300 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 3: of the conference. 301 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: Well a picture, JEV just share arrogance. 302 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: Well okay, so look it's arrogance. 303 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: It is. 304 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 3: It's arrogance. 305 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: It is. 306 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 3: It's it's ego. But you know, you're a West Coast guy. 307 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: You know the conference well just as I do. It's 308 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: a little bit of an upty conference, right. The president's value, 309 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: the academic standing, the president's value, that the research money 310 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: and the research status. The presidents of PAC twelve schools 311 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 3: are not ones that look out for their football programs, right, 312 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: they don't. They care more about out everything else but sports. 313 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: And that's okay, nothing wrong with that when you're in 314 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: this business of college athletics and other conferences have presidents 315 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: who just care more. It's just they do. And that's 316 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: part of the reason why we're here right now is 317 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 3: the Patov Conference just has never really care as much 318 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: about football and basketball. We love saying conference champions and 319 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: we totally we won a lot of Olympic Sports championships, 320 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: but that doesn't pay the bills. And there's just this 321 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: this arrogance about what our conference is in the standing 322 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 3: of TV networks, and they got it wrong and end 323 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: up being where if you're the four corner schools, you're 324 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: Oregon in Washington, you look at the stability of the 325 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: Big Ten and the Big twelve. Oregan went to the 326 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: Big twelve for half a share, so did Washington. But 327 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 3: the stability of the conference and knowing that in five 328 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: or six years you'll get the full TV share made 329 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: it very appetizing. Also, the leadership in the conference, I 330 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: think is it doesn't really trust each other, as they shouldn't. 331 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 3: And it's sad we got here. Man, Like, I've been 332 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: talking of this for months and weeks, and I don't 333 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: want Oregon to be in the Big Ten. I don't care. 334 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: I was talking to Iowa, was saying about this beforehand, 335 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 3: right and you know, the reason we like college sports 336 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: is we like the scar tissue of playing the Santa 337 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: Pons each season. We like this, you know, the the 338 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: the share traditions. We like just knowing the other opponent. 339 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: Now you might not know the exact players each year, 340 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: but you know ucl USC the particular, like I knew 341 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: Arizona very well Arizona State, like you know if you 342 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 3: look forward to playing Arizona because guess what, you know 343 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 3: the tradition of Arizona. You know some players that might 344 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: have transferred from Oregon Arizona or some recruits that you 345 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: lost Arizona. You follow Arizona. I don't care about Iowa. 346 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: I just don't, and all have to learn to care 347 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: about Iowa. I will because that'd be my conference. But 348 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 3: the casual fan in me at times is not going 349 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: to want to watch like an Iowa Illinois game. I'll 350 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 3: watch Arizona play Cow. 351 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: I know, Jef. Now you understand. Now obviously I'm significantly 352 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: older than you. I'm more of your parents' age group. Right, 353 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: So here's the deal, because I'm with you. Tradition is 354 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: such a big part of the collegiate sports scene, far 355 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: more than professional sports. Because we've seen a shuffling of 356 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: teams and professional sports constantly. I mean, I'm still trying 357 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 2: to figure this out. The Houston Astros are an American 358 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: League team. They were a National League team forever. The 359 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: Braves used to be in the same division as the 360 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 2: Dodgers for years, like it was the bravesen Dodgers. Now 361 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm talking foreign language to a lot of people listening 362 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: right now, say I don't remember that, and this is 363 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: their selling point on what you're talking about right now. 364 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: You look at the Civil War between Oregon and Oregon 365 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: State and the tradition of this for one hundred years 366 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: or whatever it might be, and ten fifteen years down 367 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: the road, they're just like, you know, every once in 368 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: a while, they'll show up on the schedule, Like why 369 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: are they still Why is Oregon still scheduling Oregon State 370 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: once in a while? Is this like a handout? You know, 371 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: like Alabama does Wafford. So the argument is is that 372 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: get used to new traditions. Just because it's a tradition 373 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's etched in stone that it needs to 374 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: remain a tradition. I mean, I obviously grew up with 375 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: one of the biggest college football rivalries by far was 376 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: top five for twenty years. Nebraska, Oklahoma and the Big 377 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: Eight for that was the that was right there with 378 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: any other rivalry in college football in terms of national implication. 379 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: And Nebraska went to the Big Ten and it was over. 380 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: Now we have an entire generation that never has zero 381 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: connection to Nebraska and Oklahoma. Yes, Iowa Sam wants to 382 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: jump in right now. By the way, he is not 383 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: involved in placing bets for Iowa and Iowa state football players. 384 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 385 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: We'll get to that a little bit later. 386 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of those guys have transferred away, but 387 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 6: I'm not convinced that the trickling out of names has 388 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 6: ended now. So Jeff, you said you do you don't. 389 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 6: You don't want to watch Illinois Iowa? Yeah, and you 390 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 6: need to get to know it a little bit. Can 391 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 6: you guess the score from last year? You want to 392 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 6: take a shot in the dark. 393 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: Here, twelve to nine? 394 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: Close? It was nine to six. Yeah, yeah, you were exaggerating. 395 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: It's exaggerating those points. 396 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: I was but here, So Steve, look, you're absolutely correct 397 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: in Iowa. Sam, you follow those sport as well, like 398 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: you understand this. The reason why this is being done 399 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: is because you're going to get better matchups on the whole, 400 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: which I agree with. Right, You're gonna have a week 401 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: in two years where Penn State is playing Oregon, Michigan's 402 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 3: playing USC and then CAP is gonna be Alabama against Oklahoma, 403 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 3: Like you're gonna have much better matchups. 404 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 6: Well wait, wait, Jeff, but what about Indiana at Rutgers, 405 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 6: what about Maryland. 406 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: Nebraska or whatever? 407 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: Those will be on Big ten network. But I think 408 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: that they're betting. The networks are betting on the idea 409 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: that fans, the casual fans are going to tune into 410 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: a Penn State Oregon more often than a Penn State 411 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: Indiana or Oregon playing cal and that those bigger matchups. 412 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 3: Bet it's a bet on casual fans. Because I live 413 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 3: in the South, I love in the Carolina's right. People 414 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 3: are only watching orgon play when they're playing the national 415 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: TV games, right, which which makes sense. And they're gonna 416 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: try to get more of those matchups each week. And 417 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: so because they already have me locked in, they have 418 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 3: you hook Sam right, like you. 419 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 6: Watch I'll watch cal Stanford are I'll watch you know 420 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 6: cal Warzon hooked already. 421 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: It's not about we like college football in general. It's 422 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: about the other people that are casuals that they're trying 423 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: to get with these bigger games. 424 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 6: Jeff, can I just interject this so we have the 425 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 6: numbers they looked at. So when Rutgers and Maryland are 426 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 6: added to the Big Ten, they looked at what kind 427 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 6: of viewership in the New York City, New Jersey area 428 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 6: Rutgers was getting there. They were averaging like two hundred 429 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 6: and sixty thousand viewers a game. It did nothing, It 430 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 6: did nothing for the Big Ten to add Rutgers. 431 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 2: All right, well, I want to get much more into 432 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: Now where do we go? Now that it's by the way, 433 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: how many schools have to be added to the Big 434 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 2: Ten before they actually changed the name of the conference, 435 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: we'll be up to eighteen. There was a suggestion that 436 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: should just be called Big Ten and Friends. That sort 437 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: of keeps it open ended. You know, they could keep 438 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: adding schools, so it's Big Ten and friends. It should 439 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: be Big Ten and foes or for friends. They want 440 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: to beat each other's brains in I but I mean 441 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: eighteen schools in twenty twenty four in the ever expanding 442 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: Big Ten. All right, Before we get to all that, though, 443 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: let's find out what it's trending right now. And Brian Finley, 444 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: another man with deep Pack twelve roots UCLA Baby, Yeah, 445 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: a lot of work with the Bruins over the years. 446 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: Does that register with you, UCLA, USC Washington, Oregon, Big ten? 447 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: Does that register with me? 448 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 5: I think you're going to get more of, not so 449 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 5: much a regional draw to these games. And I think, 450 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 5: as I think Jeff was alluding to this earlier, and 451 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 5: you guys are saying that there's that West Coast bias, 452 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 5: you can't use that as an excuse anymore because when 453 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 5: you're making these matchups now, the whole country is going 454 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 5: to be interested because you're pinning two teams that are 455 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 5: from completely opposite sides of the country playing, So you're 456 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 5: probably going to get more eyeballs and you're never gonna 457 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 5: be able to use that West Coast bias if I'm 458 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 5: not mistaken. 459 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: And it's not just geography, it's the style of play. 460 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: Big ten football bears zero resemblance Pack twelve football. There 461 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: will be conflicts of style, no doubt about that. Not 462 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: almost that mean that one or the other evalls into 463 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: what the other has. 464 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 3: Been yet yes and no, on the conflicting styles. The 465 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: top of the conferences are very similar. 466 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 2: Utah runs the ball. 467 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: I think it's the middle of the conference. 468 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: I mean, Ohio State's been throwing the ball a lot, 469 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: I get that right, but Michigan hasn't exactly been producing 470 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: a series of all American quarterbacks. 471 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 3: But that's Utah though too. Like that kind of have parallels. 472 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: I think Penn State in the Rose Bowl threw the ball, 473 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: but like there and Dreweller this year. I think I 474 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: think that style thing is a little bit. 475 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 6: I think I think we're taking it from like the 476 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 6: early two thousands when when when Matt Lioner was airing 477 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 6: it out. 478 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, liked obviously back in the day was throwing the 479 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: ball all over the place, but not a lot of 480 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: Big ten schools to throwing the ball a lot. Nowhere 481 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: near the Big twelve in regards or the Pack twelve. Yeah. So, 482 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 2: as Jeff said, there's. 483 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 5: Going to be maybe not as much, it might be 484 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 5: overblown that contrasting styles, but that Iowa offense it might 485 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 5: want to show up at. 486 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: One point one of them will this year. Baby, Oh, 487 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: let's go. They've been saying that every year and they 488 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: have ever since. Now Kennick. They swore now Kennick the 489 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: year he won the Heightsman. They actually won a game 490 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 2: by the score of six to four, which is one 491 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: of my favorite scores that was. 492 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 6: That was two thousand and four, since they beat Penn 493 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 6: State six to four. Yeah, they allowed two safeties. Its strategically, Yeah, 494 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 6: had to win. It was as bad as an Iowa score. 495 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: Brilliant. 496 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's where all the eyeballs go to those 497 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 5: kind of games. But by the way, we do have 498 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 5: one NFL preseason game happening right now and Bryce Young 499 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 5: thirteen yards passing in his first series. He's starting the 500 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 5: star quarterback, the first year guy from Alabama for the Panthers. 501 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 5: But the Cats are trailing the Jets three nothing. Three 502 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 5: minutes are so left in the first quarter. Zach Wilson 503 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 5: starting a QB for New York forty yards through the 504 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 5: air for him. Two of the games already wrapped up, 505 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: including an amazing story Damar Hamblin, seven months removed from 506 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 5: the cardiacer that he experienced on the field playing today 507 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 5: making tackles for the Bills in their preseason affair against 508 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 5: the Colts, a game which Buffalo won twenty three to nineteen. 509 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 5: The score is more so meaningless, but we did see 510 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 5: Matt Barkley with two touchdown throws, one hundred and seventy 511 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 5: two yards passing, and a good performance for him. Also 512 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 5: a decent performance, albeit you guys pointed this out Jeff 513 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 5: finste for justin Fields and that a lot of that 514 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 5: was yards after the catch. He did have three completions, 515 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: all behind the line, behind the line of scrimmage. Yes, 516 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 5: it's a beautiful one hundred and twenty nine yards passing 517 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 5: through four to three attempts, but yes, keep that in mind, 518 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: there was a lot of yards after the catch. Two 519 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 5: touchdowns for Fields twenty three to seventeen. His Bears won 520 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 5: against the Titans. And lastly, in Major League Baseball comes 521 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 5: in Blue Jays are scoreless, bottom of the third a 522 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 5: game that was delayed thirty minutes, not because of rain 523 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 5: because obviously in Toronto they've got the roof, but because 524 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 5: they wanted to trick the fans to be in the 525 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 5: seats thirty minutes before the game started so they would 526 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 5: be ready to watch a Jose Bautista indoctrination into the 527 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 5: Ring of Honor. So that's how they were able to 528 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 5: sort of trick the fans into doing it. I don't 529 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 5: think they're gonna be able to get that a second time, 530 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 5: sort of like the Boy Who Cried Wolf, But the 531 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 5: fans are. 532 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: They've been in since because of that. 533 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 5: We do have a scoreless game between the Raisin Guardians 534 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 5: top of the second, and the Marlins up to nothing 535 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 5: against the Yankees midway through the second. And lastly, the 536 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 5: Braves traumatizing the Mets. I think that's the only verb 537 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: to describe it. I think no Nets are actually going 538 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 5: to lose every game the. 539 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: Rest of the year, so disappointing considering the high hopes 540 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: that they had on the highest payroll in the history 541 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: of baseball. Unbelievable. Yeah, twenty one to three the final 542 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: there who Yeah, showing a lot of effort. Yeah, how's 543 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: that going for Steve Cohen there? Not very well? Then 544 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: let's get it back to Jeff Short Steve Hartman. All right, 545 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: b Ben, thank you very much. Once again, we're coming 546 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: to live from the tire rag dot Com Studios. I 547 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: actually want to correct myself. I was going back to 548 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: the year nineteen thirty nine. Now Kinnick the legend, the 549 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: stadium named after a Heisman Trophy winner. They were on 550 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: the road against Purdue. I thought the score was six 551 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: to four. It's better than that. Iowa won this game 552 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 2: by a score of Ford to nothing. Hey, goin, they 553 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: won a game. They seven, they beat seven six. But 554 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: that's that's a recognizable score. You don't see a lot 555 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: of Ford to nothing games, right right. Yeah, And that 556 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: was Iowa ap Purdue. We'll probably see a little more 557 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: of that coming up here in twenty twenty three. All right, 558 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: so let's move forward here, Jeff, Stanford and Cal. So 559 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: there was buzz that they were going to join the 560 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: ACC Florida State, North Carolina, NC State, Clemson said, no, 561 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: you're obviously there in Carolina. Give us an update. Is 562 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: this just the fact that, I mean, obviously Stanford call 563 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: bring a lot to the most respected academic universities in 564 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: the country. As far as Olympic sports are concerned. Stanford 565 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: has more NCAA titles than any other school in the 566 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: country thanks to those Olympic sports. Why do you think 567 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: these four schools are adverse to the idea of adding 568 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: Stanford and Cal. 569 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: Because they're trying to leave the a SEC right now? 570 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's that simple. Probably the Big ten 571 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: only added Oregon and Washington because Fox decided to pay 572 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: for them right they were going to allow them to 573 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: come to Big Ten if their shares were diluted at all. 574 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 3: The Big Ten. The Big twelve was able to add 575 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: the four pack twelve teams because it was negotiating to 576 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: their contract that they could add four teams at the 577 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: same rate that the current members are getting, which is 578 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: thirty one point six million dollars. So if ESPN, which 579 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 3: has the a SC network contract, decides to chip in 580 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: the money for Callen Stanford, I think it would happen. 581 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: Will they I don't know. The Callen Stanford are pretty 582 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: interesting because, as you mentioned, Stanford has the best Olympic 583 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 3: sports program in the nation. They've they've won the Director's 584 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: Cup whatever that you know, that award is like twenty 585 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: sixth of twenty nine years. I think I saw football, 586 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: we know with what David Shaw did for a while 587 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: starting with Harbaugh. I really like Troy Taylor. Their their 588 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: new coach, but no one watches them play football. No 589 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: one cares in the barrier. It's interesting because the Bay 590 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: Area has really passionate pro sports fans. The Giants, what 591 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: was the Raiders, you know, the Warriors up there. There's 592 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: just a lot of passionate pro sports fans and they 593 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: never they've never bought a never bought in Steve's college 594 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: football up there. Cal is a decent program. But even 595 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: when like Jeff Tedford was had that thing rolling, just 596 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: there was never a ton of buy in to the 597 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: level that gets networks excited. And the idea is, well, 598 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: let's add them and add their you know, and add 599 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: the you know, the subscription on television, which is what 600 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: they did with with records in Maryland. Right, We're gonna 601 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: add those two programs. Everyone in in the DC area, 602 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: everyone in New York will have the Big ten network 603 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: now will make money on subscriber fees. That's certainly possible. 604 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: But no one's watching Stanford and colplay football. And it 605 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: comes down to football, obviously. And the acc thing is, 606 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: to me, is even worse than any school going to 607 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: Big ten. I mean academically. I think Stanford fits obviously 608 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: with Duke and Carolina and uh and and wake Forest. 609 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: But that's even the travel for that is even worth 610 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: than anything else. Cow's and Cow's a weird place, man. 611 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: They they don't really fit. 612 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: I mean you saying Berkeley doesn't fit. 613 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: And Berkeley is a trip. Man. Yeah, my brother went there. 614 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: I know lots of people at Cal, justin Wilcox. Their 615 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: coach is great, but man, they're there. It's a trip 616 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: going to Berkeley. You Oregon stated Washington State unfortunately, you 617 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: know'll fit pretty well in the Mountain West. But I 618 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 3: think Stanford would rather never play sports again than be 619 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: the Mountain West Conference. 620 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, they don't want to see Fresno as a 621 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: regular on their schedule. 622 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 3: No, So they're interesting. 623 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: Man. 624 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: If Notre Dame says, hey, we'll go to the Big 625 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 3: Ten with Stanford, that's how they get to the Big Ten. Eventually, 626 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 3: it's just finding a home for the next couple of years. 627 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 3: Independent doesn't work great because who's your schedules Gonna end 628 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 3: up with a bunch of rain Because who's going to 629 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: to palle Outo on October to play? Like, who has 630 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 3: a conference schedule? Answers nobody. No one's doing that, all right. 631 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: So on the other side, we're up against a little 632 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: bit here. I want to get some time. On the 633 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 2: other side, just the travel aspect of these expanding coast 634 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 2: to coast conferences, which now the Big Ten is and 635 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: we're staring at a possibility the acc as well, is 636 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: that a little bit overblown. We're gonna give you the 637 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: reality of the situation. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin, 638 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, Fox Sports Saturday. We are live from the 639 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: Tyraq dot Com studios. We have been talking about the 640 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: demise of the Pac twelve and the ramifications moving forward 641 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: for a lot of these schools. So I'll go back 642 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: to when I was at UCLA, so you have times 643 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: of change. So my second year on the Daily Bruin, 644 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: I was given the men's gymnastics beat. UCLA would eventually 645 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: have some great gymnastics teams, but we were not at 646 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: that level at that point, and we had meets on 647 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 2: the road against Stanford and cal We drove by station wagon. 648 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 2: I was on the Daily Bruin with the members of 649 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: the men's gymnastics team and the coach drove us in 650 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 2: a station wagon to the games. So that's the way 651 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: it was back in the Stone Age. Different nowadays. And 652 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: when we talk about travel, whether it's it's the West 653 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: Coast schools to the Midwest and West Coast schools to 654 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: the East Coast, we're not just talking football here. We're 655 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: talking about all sports will be members of these conferences. 656 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: The travel costs will be staggering because no one's driving 657 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: in a station wagon anymore. But the idea of you know, 658 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 2: changing times, this, that, and everything else. We talk about 659 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: it in the NFL all the time, Jeff. You know 660 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: the East coast, West coast, you know swing and what 661 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: kind of implications it has, But what kind of effect 662 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 2: does it have on the college level. 663 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: So it's not Football won't be a problem. You fly 664 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 3: and you fly out, you move it along. Basketball probably 665 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: not as bad. You take Charter plant I think for 666 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: the most part, you fly in for a couple days, 667 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 3: you fly out. It's actually Pac twelve basketball travel was 668 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 3: very easy because you would fly to Phoenix and you 669 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: play Arizona State, You drive the Tucson, you fly to 670 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 3: LA you play two schools. You fly the Bay Area, 671 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 3: you play two schools. You fly to to Oregon and 672 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: you play two schools that are thirty minutes away. You 673 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: fly to Washington. That was a little more difficult cause 674 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: we went in Seattle, a pretty far apart. But you 675 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 3: get the idea, right, It's it's pretty simple. Basketball will 676 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: will have to not to find something out. You'll find 677 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: something to do with basketball. The Olympic sports are where 678 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: the real problem miss. You know, you're gonna have to 679 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 3: end up with, you know, a team flying out to 680 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 3: the West Coast just playing all the West Coast schools 681 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 3: in a two week stretch, right, and then the West 682 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: Coast schools flying out and staying out there for two 683 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: or thirty weeks at a time and trying to make 684 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 3: it work. If you want to make Olympic sports work better, 685 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: you would add Callen Stanford and just former West Coast 686 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 3: pod and have them basically play imediately, haven't played most 687 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: of their games against each other, and maybe we'll take 688 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: one trip back east, right, or we have one trip out, 689 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 3: you know whatever. But it's not fun. And you've seen 690 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 3: the Olympic sport athletes have gone on Twitter and talked 691 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 3: about this, and it's true. They don't like it, and 692 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 3: I wouldn't either. It makes their life a lot worse. 693 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 3: It makes it very tough to play the Olympic sports 694 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: with all this travel. They don't fly charter, they don't 695 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 3: at the same ameni as the football and basketball get 696 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 3: when they travel that are taking care of them the 697 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: same way. 698 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: It's just a lot tougher well, and the Olympic sport 699 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 2: athletes are actually for the most part student athletes, and 700 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: these schools they have conflicting schedules. Some are semesters, some 701 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: are quarter schools, and so it has to line up. 702 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean, have you got finals, have you got you know, 703 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: and again when you talk about these Olympic sports, you 704 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 2: know it's not impossible, but very few will go on 705 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: to make millions of dollars representing their sports. So some 706 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: of the logistics have been sort of lost on these 707 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 2: university presidents, as you mentioned, to get to the position 708 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: they're in, they have to have some semblance of intelligence, 709 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: but apparently not from a business sense, and the refusal 710 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: of the PAC twelve to sign up deals that could 711 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: have ensured the future of the conference were completely bypassed. 712 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: And it doesn't come down to the Larry Scott's, to 713 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 2: the Cleave Coffs. They're just pawns for the university presidents. 714 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: They're the ones that made these final decisions to nick 715 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: the deal. So you know, it just it's hard for 716 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: me as someone that goes all the way back to 717 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: the aa WU, which actually came before the PACKA that 718 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 2: was the athletic Association of Western Universities. It's heartbreaking to me, 719 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: and it really is because it's been part of my 720 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: life for a long time and now it's gone. It's 721 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: gone forever. 722 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's and just specifically to this season, it 723 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 3: stinks because the pac twelve is the best it's ever been. 724 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: This is the best year that Pactov's gonna have ever. Like, 725 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 3: there's never been a situation when four teams have legitimate 726 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 3: opportunities to make the playoff and the fifth is Oregon State, 727 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 3: who might win ten games again, you know, like it's 728 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 3: and you know, UCLA Dante Morris as good as people think. 729 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 3: Maybe the Bruins are a nine or ten one team. 730 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 3: Their schedule is pretty easy this year relative to Oregon 731 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 3: and Washington and USC and Utah. So it's just sad 732 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 3: that we're here talking about all this stuff because the 733 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 3: PACOV is actually good at football this season. All right. 734 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're gonna get back 735 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: to the National Football League. We got preseason football going 736 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 2: on right now, including the preseason debut of the number 737 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: one overall pick in this year's NFL draft. Will he 738 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: be as good as advertised? So talking Bryce Young, we 739 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 2: can keep it here on Fox Sports Saturday. 740 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 741 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 742 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 743 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 1: listen live. 744 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, rolling along here on a big Saturday, once again 745 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the ti raq dot com studios. Tyrack 746 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: dot com. We're gonna help get you there an unmatched selection, fast, 747 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 2: free shipping, free road hazard protection, over ten thousand recommended installers, 748 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 2: tire rack dot com. The way tire buying should be 749 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: first full week of preseason action in the NFL. Hopefully 750 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: this charade that is preseason football will be eliminated at 751 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 2: some point. We didn't have it in twenty twenty, and 752 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: that season seemed to go along quite well without it. 753 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: But we're still subjected to these meaningless football games. And 754 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 2: one game that is going on right now is the 755 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers and the New York Jets. We saw the 756 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: Jets in the Hall of Fame game. Zach Wilson back 757 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: out there today getting plenty of reps, but the spotlight 758 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: most definitely on Bryce Young, first overall pick in this 759 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: year's NFL draft, the Heisman Trophy winner out of Alabama. 760 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: You are all over the Panthers because you're in that 761 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 2: neck of the woods. Frank Reich, of course, taken over 762 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 2: as the new coach. I know they hired Thomas Brown 763 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: from the Rams staff to be their offensive coordinator. But 764 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 2: everyone's going to be curious to see what Bryce Young 765 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: can do immediately because we saw CJ. Stroud struggle for 766 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 2: the Texans in his first preseason start. He dismissed all 767 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 2: the commotion about how he threw an interception. He just 768 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 2: didn't look comfortable. Again, it's a preseason game. But what's 769 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 2: been the buzz on Bryce Young and what expectations should 770 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 2: we have for him as a rookie. 771 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 3: I think he's looked great so far. You know, all 772 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 3: the reviews have been positive. It's about health steve the 773 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 3: same way as we had in April. Right, Everything that 774 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 3: we've heard about Bryce Young is true in Carolina, He's 775 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 3: he has excellent study habits. He very much understands NFL 776 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 3: offense and NFL defenses. He I was told by some 777 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: of the offensive linemen that I know there that in 778 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 3: in OTA's the offense program, he was changing plays like 779 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 3: a veteran would do. The Lion stroke just very It 780 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 3: doesn't happen with with young players. Today. He didn't look 781 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 3: lost at all when he's playing. 782 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 4: C J. 783 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 3: Stroud looked a little bit lost in his first game. 784 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 3: I have not watched Anthony richardson play. I was out 785 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 3: earlier today. I watched that tonight or tomorrow. But you 786 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 3: know he had I think he had one good throw. 787 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 3: I saw through a bat interception on our po But 788 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 3: Bryce Young looked like he should look. The problem for 789 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 3: me is health is when he gets hit, and he 790 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 3: was hit hard today because the Jets defensive line has 791 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 3: wrecked the Panthers offense the entire day. The the it's 792 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 3: just can he stay healthy? Can you withstand a season 793 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 3: where he gets hit? A bunch of the Pedes office 794 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 3: lines should be better than they played today. 795 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: So when we talk about a quarterback stature, I mean, 796 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 2: it's not just the fact that you know he's not 797 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: six feet tall. It's also the fact that he's slight 798 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: of frame. 799 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 3: That's correct. It's not the height to me, it's the 800 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 3: height combined with the stature. Right, and he's like barely 801 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 3: two hundred pounds. 802 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 2: He is the smallest starting quarterback in this league by far, 803 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: by far. 804 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 3: And guys, it is it is hard to withstand NFL 805 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: hits if your body's not up for the task. Even 806 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 3: when your body is, I've broken bones, Like it's I 807 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 3: have a giant body, you still break bones on the field. 808 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 3: Bryce Young is not a big fella. He is slender 809 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 3: and he has kind of small features. And if he 810 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 3: is not able to stay healthy can hit as often 811 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 3: as he's hit in the NFL, then that becomes a problem. 812 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 3: And I think he'll be okay if he can stay healthy. 813 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 3: So if you can just avoid those hits. 814 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 2: In stature tight wise, he's similar to Russell Wilson. Now, 815 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 2: Wilson is so much more exactly, I wanted to switch 816 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 2: gears to Russell Wilson for a moment. So he had 817 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: his preseason debut against Arizona yesterday, and I mean Arizona's 818 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: not gonna win. Is Arizona the worst team in the league? Yes, okay, 819 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 2: so we agree there. Even with Clayton Tune as their quarterback. 820 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 2: Arizona beat Denver in this game eighteen to seventeen. But 821 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: the big story here on Russell Wilson in his preseason 822 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 2: debut under Sean Payton is that he played four series 823 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 2: now I understand that it's a brand new offense that 824 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: Sean Payton wants to get him in. I think if 825 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 2: you look at these four series, he got a little 826 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: bit better each time by the time he through a 827 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 2: touchdown pass to Jerry Judy. Of course, Arizona was like 828 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: on their fifth string defense. But that aside, it's obvious 829 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: that Russell Wilson's gonna get a lot of time in 830 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 2: this preseason because usually a veteran quarterback like this, who 831 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, at this point of his career, is probably 832 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: trying to protect his body for the long haul. It's 833 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 2: more important what he does over seventeen games and trying 834 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 2: to stay healthy, something that Wilson always was in his 835 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 2: run in Seattle. But what do you I mean? So 836 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 2: much commotion was made, obviously with the Nathaniel Hackett, you know, 837 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 2: being you know, blown away by Sean Payne. I don't 838 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 2: know if you heard my theory. I went on a 839 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 2: couple of weeks about this just quickly. I have met 840 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 2: Sean Payton a couple of times. He doesn't strike me 841 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 2: as a guy that just does things for no reason. 842 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: I do believe he purposely went public with that Nathaniel 843 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 2: Hackett thing, maybe to reinforce the idea in that locker 844 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 2: room that you're not a five and twelve football team, 845 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 2: that the only reason you were five and twelve was 846 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 2: the total incompetence of the coaching staff you were subjected 847 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 2: to a year ago. And of course it puts a 848 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 2: target on their back, but maybe he felt like that 849 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 2: was necessary for this team. But when this is all 850 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: said and done, knowing what Sean Payton can do offensively, 851 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 2: and the fact that he was able to adjust with 852 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 2: some of the diminishing features physically with Drew Brees over 853 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 2: the years as his arm power went down, he adjusted 854 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 2: the offense accordingly, can he turn this thing around with 855 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson Or let's even ask a bigger question. Is 856 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson salvageable? Is it even conceivable that he can 857 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 2: get back to the level he enjoyed in his heyday 858 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 2: in Seattle? 859 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 3: No, he won't. Now will Russell Wilson played better because 860 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 3: the offensive design is better and the coaching staff is 861 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 3: better and there's some upgrades hopefully offensive line. Yes, the 862 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 3: offense will protect him better in the design and in 863 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 3: just trying to take away some of the things he 864 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 3: has to oh he has to do in that offense 865 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 3: at all times. But he's not the same player anymore. 866 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 3: It's very clear. Even last night he played four drives 867 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: Steve because he needs to work. 868 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs to work. 869 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 3: He needs to work in this offense to feel comfortable 870 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 3: playing again. Playing that much is because he's not ready. 871 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 3: He's not comfortable in this offense. Champagne doesn't trust him 872 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 3: in this offense yet. And and to be fair, he's 873 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 3: playing Arizon his backups. He didn't look terribly good. It 874 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 3: was it wasn't. It wasn't a great performance by Russell Wilson. 875 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 3: I generally think that he is not never gonna regain 876 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 3: evening close to Seattle. Whatever was in Seattle, he's not. 877 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 3: That's never happening again. Can he be competent enough to 878 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 3: not get them, you know, to just play decent enough 879 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 3: football every yes, I think, but not anything more than 880 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 3: just average football at the best. I think he's what 881 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 3: made him so special was his ability to extend plays 882 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 3: and then throw the ball down the field. Right. Well, 883 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 3: he doesn't. He's older now, he can't move as much. 884 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 3: He doesn't run as well. He doesn't want to run 885 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 3: because he guess what getting hit takes wear and tear 886 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 3: on your body. He doesn't want to be that player anymore. 887 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 3: And so now what makes him special? 888 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 4: What? 889 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 5: What? 890 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 3: What attribute of his makes him special? He has a 891 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 3: great arm, right, but is he a rhythm thrower? Not 892 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 3: not terribly. Is he a guy that's always been known 893 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 3: for supreme accuracy on timing routes? Not really Steve right? 894 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden he has to play 895 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 3: that offense that that that requires precision, that requires on 896 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 3: time delivery the ball. It's not an offense for him him, 897 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 3: and I think that it's going to show early in 898 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,280 Speaker 3: the season they had no other option, but nothing yesterday 899 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 3: night kind of quench any of my fears about he's 900 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 3: just sort of cooked. 901 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 2: Well, here's my feeling about Sean Payton and his belief 902 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 2: in his ability to design a highly effected offense. If 903 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson cannot execute the offense he wants, he will 904 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 2: move on. I mean, Sean Payton is Sean Payne is 905 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 2: going nowhere. He has a huge contract with the new 906 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 2: ownership of the Broncos. They are one hundred percent committed 907 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 2: to him. Russell Wilson was brought in by the previous regime. 908 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 3: So I think Russell Wilson has gone next year, no 909 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 3: matter what. 910 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 2: I agree with you, all right. So on the other side, 911 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 2: I want to get into this because I mentioned Arizona 912 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 2: IVY looking rough and they could be looking for another 913 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 2: quarterback in the first round again after taking Kyler Murray 914 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 2: number one overall just a couple of years ago. So 915 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 2: when we talk about quarterbacks on deck, just how good 916 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 2: are Caleb Williams and Drake May? Jeff will tell us 917 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin, Jeff Schwartz, Fox 918 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are live from the Tirak dot com studios. 919 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 2: All right, Before we get to the perceived prizes of 920 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NFL Draft quarterbacks Caleb Williams out 921 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: of USC and Drake May out of North Carolina, let's 922 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 2: talk quickly about a quarterback from the past, Philip Rivers. 923 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 2: Apparently Kyle Shanahan revealing that if the forty nine Ers 924 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 2: who had run out of quarterbacks had survived the NFC 925 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 2: Championship Game and had come out to the Super Bowl 926 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 2: to take on the Jeeves, the call had already been 927 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 2: made to bring back Philip Rivers. Here's Kyle Shanahan. He 928 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 2: was prepared to Yeah, no, and stuff we talked about 929 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 2: throughout the whole year. 930 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 7: You know, we would have had to see how that 931 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 7: was for the super Bowl, but that was the plan most. 932 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 4: Of the year. 933 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 2: Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. So originally it was reported 934 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 2: that maybe you know, sort of like the Eric Weddles 935 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 2: situation where they brought him out of hibernation to help 936 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 2: the Rams win a super Bowl. But he didn't just 937 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 2: talk about the super Bowl. He talked about that was 938 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 2: sort of the discussion all season long. 939 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 3: Yes, so people want to tweet this out the story. 940 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 3: People said that this is only for the Super Bowl, 941 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 3: which it might have been, but Kyle shann had said 942 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 3: in the interview that he thought it since December. Yeah, 943 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 3: so this is a I don't trust Brock party. But 944 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 3: could you imagine like Phil River was just showing up 945 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 3: for the Super. 946 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 2: Bowl like has well, first of all, well knowing Philip 947 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: Rivers as I have. Let's hear an extended version of 948 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 2: the same cut we just heard from Kyle Shanahan. Man, 949 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 2: I hope Brock's not as bad as they're saying. And 950 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 2: what's going to be our plan? B? 951 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to go get Philip Rivers someone like 952 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 7: that for the Super Bowl, because that's what I'm thinking, 953 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 7: because I didn't think Jimmy was going to be ready. 954 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 7: And all I'm thinking is, man, I hope Brock's not 955 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 7: as bad as they're saying, and I hope someone like 956 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 7: Philip Rivers is working out and ready to go here 957 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 7: in two weeks because that's still our. 958 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 2: Plan, all right. So someone followed basically for River's entire career, 959 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 2: and I love him on a one on one basis. 960 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 2: He's by the way, he and his wife are now 961 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 2: expecting their tenth child. They didn't stop at nine. They're 962 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,919 Speaker 2: continuing on child number ten is on the way. He's 963 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 2: a character. But one thing about Philip Rivers, you know this, 964 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 2: Jeff always prepared. I mean, he's a coach's dream because 965 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 2: his addiction to watching film, preparing for games and everything else. 966 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't like he was going to lose any mobility 967 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,760 Speaker 2: because he never had any mobility. He was the greatest 968 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 2: timing pass that I've ever seen. I've never seen a 969 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 2: quarterback throw to empty space more effectively than Philip Rivers. 970 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think? I mean, what 971 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 2: I mean it's I mean, I can understand why Kyle 972 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 2: Shanahan was in love with the idea that a Philip 973 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 2: Rivers could just step in and execute his offense. If 974 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 2: Brock perty could do it, why wouldn't Philip Rivers be 975 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 2: able to do it? But what do you make of 976 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 2: that entire I don't know. So a revelation by Kyle Shanahan. 977 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 3: I think it's another sign that they just don't trust 978 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 3: brock Purtty still because there's no point in bringing this 979 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 3: up right now, that's last season? Was there was there 980 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 3: a a reason why this was brought up? Or did 981 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 3: he just mention this or did Philip Rivers come to 982 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 3: him with that information or come to the media. Philip 983 00:54:54,680 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 3: wouldn't say that, right, So the idea that the Niners 984 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 3: are still thinking about last season, to me is a 985 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:07,439 Speaker 3: problem and it shows me that just don't trust Brock 986 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 3: per Why would you say that? Well, what's the point 987 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 3: of saying tell us that story? 988 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 8: I don't know. 989 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 2: What was the point of drafting Trey Lance? 990 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 3: Well? 991 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're asking questions about the decision 992 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 2: making of Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, the idea, I 993 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 2: guess of moving up to draft Trey Lance, was they 994 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 2: felt restricted by the physical limitations of a Jimmy Garoppolo 995 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 2: in executing the Kyle Shanner offense. Remember this is the 996 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 2: same thing A Rams did. I mean they traded Jared 997 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 2: Goff and multiple first round picks in order to get 998 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford with the idea that Stafford could do more 999 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 2: with their offense, and they ended up winning a Super Bowl. 1000 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 2: And I think Shanahan's very similar in the mindset and 1001 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 2: the basic ego, if you want to put it, that 1002 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 2: of a Sean McVay. And so that's why they went 1003 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 2: after Trey Lance. Why would they bring in Sam Donald? 1004 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 2: What was the purpose of signing Sam Donald, who, by 1005 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 2: the way, in his first preezing game didn't look very good. 1006 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 2: But what what is why why would you bring Sam 1007 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 2: Donald into the mix? 1008 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 3: I think I think with with well, that's just depth move, right, 1009 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you need to have backup quarterbacks. 1010 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 2: I don't know, you don't think that Sam Donald has 1011 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 2: more ability and Brock Party, well. 1012 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 3: He has more physical ability, But the problem for Sam 1013 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 3: is that he just hasn't shown that yet. And maybe 1014 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 3: in this offense he does show that. But the potential 1015 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 3: is there, But we know this. You watched on a 1016 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 3: football Potential is there for a lot of players got 1017 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 3: to put it together on the field, and Sam Donald 1018 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 3: so far hasn't shown that. So to me, it's just 1019 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 3: another option of Trey Lance's is hurt. The Here's the 1020 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 3: thing is is Sam Donald going to basically make the 1021 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 3: team over a healthy Trey Lance? The answers probably know, right, 1022 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 3: So he's just there for to be a. 1023 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 2: Body, all right, So right, I know, well, I look, 1024 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 2: and I know you we talked plenty about this. I mean, 1025 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 2: you are not convinced that the forty nine ers who, 1026 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 2: if you eliminate the quarterback position, have as good, if 1027 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 2: not a better, roster than every team in this league. 1028 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 2: If you eliminate the quarterback position. 1029 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 3: See, they have the best left tackle yep, the best 1030 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 3: running back right, the best pass rusher, yes, the best 1031 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 3: linebacker right, the best slash guy in Deebo Siamo. Right, 1032 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 3: they have the best of everything. 1033 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 2: Yes, so they have more. But okay, and the idea 1034 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 2: that you can stick anybody in there, even a rock party, 1035 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 2: and get away with it, well, I mean we're gonna 1036 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 2: ultimately find out, all right, Which brings me back to 1037 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 2: these quarterbacks. I mean, we go through this conversation year 1038 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 2: after year after year after year. You know, a year ago, 1039 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 2: I thought it was Seattle after they traded away Russell 1040 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 2: Wilson brought in Drew Locke, and I'm thinking, all right, well, 1041 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 2: there's a team obviously targeting the top pick in the draft. 1042 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 2: You know, are they gonna get Bryce Young and they're 1043 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,919 Speaker 2: gonna h c. J. Stroud? And then Gino Smith comes 1044 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 2: in and has a miracle year, and I don't think 1045 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 2: it can be repeated, to be honest with you, But 1046 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 2: now we're talking about Caleb Williams and a guy in 1047 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 2: your neck of the woods, Drake May, who had a 1048 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 2: fabulous right shirt freshman year for the Tar Heels. I mean, 1049 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,479 Speaker 2: you talk to a lot of people in this league, Jeff. 1050 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no such thing as a sure thing. 1051 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 2: But are these two quarterback talents a notch above what 1052 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 2: we've seen in recent history? Caleb Williams is yeah, Okay, 1053 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 2: what about the kid Drake May? 1054 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 3: I think I'm curious, Well, we. 1055 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 2: Had a North Carolina quarterback named Forbisky. 1056 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, he's much better than him. Okay, I 1057 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 3: actually I'm curious to see him this year with a 1058 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 3: little bit less on his plate. Last season he was 1059 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 3: in North Caroline offense. He let him in passing obviously 1060 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 3: as a quarterback and rushing. He was their offense. Their 1061 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 3: offensive line is better. They should have they. I think 1062 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 3: the wide receiving court takes a little bit of a hit, 1063 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 3: but the offensive line and they have a new offense 1064 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 3: coordinator should suit him a little bit better. Caleb Williams 1065 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 3: is insanely special and I hate so much during the 1066 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 3: draft process when we get to the draft day and 1067 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 3: the analysts on the draft shows say so and so. 1068 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 3: Reminds me of this Hall of Famer, right, you know 1069 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 3: the the the young man was drafted by Tampa Bay 1070 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 3: to by defensive tackle out of Pittsburgh and he's just 1071 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 3: a short defat tackle. Reminds me of Aaron Donald. There 1072 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 3: was a wide receiver in this draft. I heard someone say, oh, 1073 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. I'm like, guys, can we like stop with this? 1074 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 3: That's not that's quitably unlikely to happen this way. Uh 1075 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 3: Kleb Williams is the closest thing we had to Patrick Mahomes. 1076 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 3: He's that good. I watched every sap of his last season. 1077 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 3: I would like to see him play in more rhythm 1078 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 3: at times as a quarterback. Partly that's I think the offense. 1079 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 3: But he can do things on the football field that 1080 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 3: not many players at his position can do. And he 1081 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 3: is a player that you should absolutely lose football games 1082 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 3: to have as your quarterback. 1083 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 2: All Right, So he goes to Arizona, Right, let's just 1084 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 2: draw it out. They go three and fourteen and they 1085 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 2: turn the page on Kyler Murray. He's going to a 1086 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 2: horrific football team. 1087 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 1088 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I don't care what kind of 1089 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 2: talent you have as a quarterback, you still have to 1090 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 2: have weapons, you have to be able. I mean, it 1091 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 2: wasn't like Patrick Mahomes was on a bad team. He 1092 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 2: had one of the best coaches in the league. He 1093 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 2: had a team that was already a playoff team. Same 1094 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 2: thing that the when Dan Marino joined the Dolphins. You know, 1095 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 2: it was like, wow, this damn Marino. Yeah, he had 1096 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 2: Don Shula. They were in the Super Bowl the year 1097 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 2: before he arrived. They were already made team. 1098 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. 1099 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,439 Speaker 2: So I mean Caleb Williams joins Arizona next year, they're 1100 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 2: gonna be horrible. 1101 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 3: Correct. There's absolutely a part of this that requires Caleb 1102 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 3: Williams to play with a good team succeed. We know 1103 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 3: this all the time. It's always the way. It is 1104 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 3: right that quarterbacks that don't have the support around them 1105 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 3: typically don't end up being good. Arizonas have to build 1106 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:46,919 Speaker 3: that up around him, absolutely, But dude, he's good enough 1107 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 3: that if they do that, they're going to be a 1108 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 3: very very special it'd be very special. 1109 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 2: Or I mean, decide he doesn't want to play for 1110 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 2: the Arizona car. He has a lot of eligibility left. 1111 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 2: If you don't know this, he has a couple of years. 1112 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 3: I would have two more years after this year. Yeah, yeah, no, 1113 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 3: this is red shirt. Yeah, because of we redchrophomore. 1114 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 2: Well, he gets credit for that twenty twenty year. I mean, 1115 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 2: that's why we're seeing my guy Hartman playing a notre dame. 1116 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 3: No, he doesn't. He came in twenty one. 1117 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 2: Wasn't he a red shirt though in twenty twenty. 1118 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 3: No, he's a true freshman in twenty one. 1119 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 2: That's right, he was a true freshman in twenty one, 1120 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 2: twenty two, Right, he doesn't get the extra year, so 1121 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 2: he has, Yeah, he has two more years. 1122 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 3: She's a true junior. This year. 1123 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 2: And by the way, the nil numbers that we hear 1124 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 2: from him publicly are a fraction of the reality. Let 1125 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 2: me put it that way. The deal that USC struck 1126 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 2: to get him to come out of Oklahoma, the numbers 1127 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm hearing are significantly higher. Well, we we're resorted publicly. 1128 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 3: The rumors of some of the high school recruits they're 1129 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 3: getting well, yeah, they're being paid. Imagine what the Heisman 1130 01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 3: winner is getting paid. Right. 1131 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 2: How much of Bryce Young get to not transfer out 1132 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 2: of Alabama straight out of Ohio State? 1133 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if there are options 1134 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 3: to transfer. Here's the thing, though, see is you probably 1135 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 3: can't pass up an opportunity to be the first pick 1136 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 3: of the draft. It is very rare for quarterbacks who 1137 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 3: come back to school to be drafted in the same position. 1138 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 3: Like one of the ones that actually worked out was 1139 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert. He was basically drafted in the same position 1140 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 3: that he would have been drafted if he had stayed 1141 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 3: in at if he'd come out the year before. But 1142 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,919 Speaker 3: for the most part it ends up not being that case, 1143 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 3: and you just can't turn that opportunity down. 1144 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 2: Can you see any team passing on Caleb Williams under draft. 1145 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 2: If he were to sit this entire year out of USC, No, 1146 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 2: do you think he would be still in the of 1147 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 2: course he won. 1148 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:49,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 1149 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 2: Let's say he had another Heisman caliber year this year 1150 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 2: and the decided I don't want to be in Arizona Cardinal, 1151 01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to sit out a year after another good 1152 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 2: year at US. 1153 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 3: So he doesn't declare for the draft, right, because then obviously. 1154 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to play either. He sits out the year, 1155 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 2: would still be the number one pick in the twenty 1156 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 2: twenty five draft. Probably yeah, probably, yeah, I mean, because 1157 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 2: he is I agree with the one hundred percent. 1158 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 3: And again I hate I hate saying quarterbacks or so 1159 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 3: and so and there. I hate again I hate comparing 1160 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 3: players to the best to have ever done it. But 1161 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 3: if you watch his if you watch him play man 1162 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 3: and even people are starting to kind of put out 1163 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 3: some clips as we get Coach of the season, he 1164 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 3: just he cannot be stopped. Like there's just you know, 1165 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 3: the only time we stopped last year was when he 1166 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 3: was hurt against Utah. Otherwise, Augustate actually play pretty well 1167 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 3: against them. You can stop the offense that he's in 1168 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 3: by doing a couple of things, and the offense sometimes 1169 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 3: gets a little bogged down, but stopping him personally is 1170 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 3: a really tough task. 1171 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 2: By the way, does Lincoln Riley know how to coach 1172 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 2: up a defense? After the disastrous finish at USC last 1173 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 2: year and that gets back. 1174 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 3: USC has some action issues that no one really ever 1175 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 3: wants to discuss. They they cannot recruit defense and defense 1176 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 3: and offensive linement at USC, and you cannot rely on 1177 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 3: the portal as the reason why you have a good 1178 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 3: offensive defensive line. There's a reason why most often players 1179 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 3: transfer from from Power five to Power five. It's because 1180 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 3: you know, they're just like not as good as if 1181 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 3: they were that good, they would have stayed at where 1182 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 3: they're at. It's just kind of like that. The it's 1183 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 3: the truth of it now. It's not for offen defensive line, 1184 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 3: I should say not for all positions obviously. You just 1185 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 3: can't rely on defensivelignment to be in the portal every 1186 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 3: year to be available. And I think it's the way 1187 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 3: that they prepare each game and prepare each week. It's 1188 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 3: not an overly physical style of practice. And so yeah, 1189 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 3: I don't think USC is good to have the season 1190 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 3: people think they're gonna have they play organ to Washington 1191 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 3: this season, much tougher schedule. They're gonna be good, they're 1192 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 3: gonna win ten games, but they're not making a playoff. 1193 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 2: A right, no playoff for them? All right? Coming up 1194 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 2: on the other side'm gonna ask something near and dear 1195 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 2: to Jeff Schwartz. But first the first let's find out 1196 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 2: what's trending right now. And there's another gentleman that has 1197 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 2: such rare talent. I mean, you could literally sit out 1198 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 2: like two years and then return here to Fox Sports 1199 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 2: Radio in the position of your choice. Unbelievable. I mean, 1200 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 2: am I exaggerating? I don't think there is some hyperbole there? Yeah, 1201 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 2: you think, But I love it. I love your support. 1202 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate it that I'm saying you should test that theory. 1203 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 5: Probably not, although I wouldn't do a Caleb Williams because 1204 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:39,959 Speaker 5: I'm more on the UCLA side. 1205 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 2: I know that, and so well, Dante more there we go, 1206 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 2: We'll do that. 1207 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 3: Danta Moore got the bag, as the kids say, the bag. 1208 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I cannot wait. He's a five star recruit. He 1209 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 2: dumped Jeff's school to come to my school. Yeah, Jeff, 1210 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 2: how do you feel about that? 1211 01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 3: Oh, it's fine, that's supposed to by the way, he's unhappy, right, 1212 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 3: is that the something? No, I uh, it's it's life. 1213 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 3: I just thought it ironic. I love Chuck Kelly, He's 1214 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 3: my guy. I just find it ironic that he made 1215 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 3: a comment about how Nil was like, you just it's 1216 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 3: not ruining things, but you're just buying players. Now, I'm like, well, 1217 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 3: that's that's got your quarterback man, mm hmm, Like we 1218 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 3: know that's I don't fall good for contin more. I'm happy, but. 1219 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 2: They got big ten money. Now he's got a lot 1220 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 2: of money in the bank. 1221 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 5: I am. 1222 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 3: I am all for parts in every single cent if 1223 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 3: they don't come to Oregon. Man, it's it's this look 1224 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 3: like it's life. 1225 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 2: You don't get every recruit. 1226 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 3: I think this. Fans that cry about recruiting just make 1227 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 3: me crazy, Like you're donna get every recruit, man, So 1228 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 3: it's such as life. Like whatever, man, it's a part 1229 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:39,959 Speaker 3: of life. 1230 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 5: Some good points there, Jeff. And to somebody who has 1231 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 5: picked up a lot of good recruits over the years. 1232 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 5: And now the Mischigman, Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh. And 1233 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 5: if you were expecting to see him be absent for 1234 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 5: four games because of a suspension. 1235 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 2: Think again. 1236 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 5: According to multiple outlets, the agreement that he had with 1237 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 5: the NC double A on a four game suspension is 1238 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 5: falling apart. In his case is now supposed to go 1239 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 5: in front of the Committee on Infractions in twenty twenty four. 1240 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 5: So Jim Harbaugh will, as it stands right now, be 1241 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 5: on the sidelines of every single game this upcoming year. 1242 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 2: For the Wolverines to the NFL. 1243 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 5: And Bryce Young is making his first appearance in an 1244 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 5: NFL game, albeit its preseason, and played in the first 1245 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 5: quarter of this Panthers game. They're trailing by the way 1246 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 5: they Jets thirteen to nothing at the half. But Young's 1247 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 5: numbers as I look at them now four of six 1248 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 5: through the year, twenty one yards and did not rush 1249 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,679 Speaker 5: the football. Matt corral is now in at quarterback Zach Wilson, 1250 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 5: he wants that number two position on the QB Death 1251 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 5: Chart fourteen of twenty. He is the only quarterback to 1252 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 5: play for the Jets in this game. One hundred and 1253 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 5: twenty three yards passing one touchdown, no picks. So he 1254 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 5: is making a statement in a game that doesn't count. 1255 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 5: And then we also know that the Cowboys and Jaguars 1256 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,360 Speaker 5: are underway with a preseason game, eight to nothing, Jaguars 1257 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 5: in front three minutes to go in the first quarter. 1258 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence five three the year, thirty six yards. He 1259 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 5: does have a touchdown toss, and Kooper Rush has been 1260 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 5: the only signal caller out there for Dallas five or 1261 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 5: six on his completions and nineteen yards, no picks and 1262 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 5: no touchdowns. DeMar Hamlin made his appearance in a game 1263 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,600 Speaker 5: seven months removed from suffering cardiac arrest, making tackles for 1264 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,839 Speaker 5: the Bills in their win earlier today in a preseason contest. 1265 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 5: Of course, they got it done, did the Bills against 1266 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 5: the Colts twenty three nineteen. Justin Fields twenty three seventeen 1267 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 5: a win for his Bears over the Titans, and he 1268 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 5: had two touchdown throws. Major League Baseball games are upon 1269 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 5: us and the Yankees right now are trailing the Marlins 1270 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 5: three to nothing. Early stages of that one. Make it 1271 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,679 Speaker 5: down to the seventh inning. I beg your pardon. Also, 1272 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 5: the Rays and Guardians all tied up at one with 1273 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 5: that one in the bottom of the fifth. The Rays 1274 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 5: seventy and forty eight are at home. The Cubs got 1275 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 5: a three run home run from the nsby Swanson. They 1276 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 5: are taking it to the Blue Jays four to three 1277 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,759 Speaker 5: bottom of the sixth. And one more thing to mention guys. 1278 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 5: One game that went final, the Braves obliterate the Mets 1279 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 5: twenty one to three, and Jeff and Steve, as I 1280 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 5: said it back to you, it's completely understandable for Mets 1281 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:18,560 Speaker 5: fans to maybe need some talk therapy, counseling considering the 1282 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 5: way that their team. 1283 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, they saw courage at least a 1284 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 2: field goal in that game. I mean that was the thing. 1285 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean, could have been twenty one nothing. They got 1286 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 2: the three. So that this whole team of the highest 1287 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 2: payroll in the history of baseball, by the way, the Mets. 1288 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 5: Well, I was looking at the three the Mets, and 1289 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 5: I was see him. That's usually three more points than 1290 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 5: the Iowa offense puts up in a game, right, Ah, 1291 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 5: not this year. 1292 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 2: That's what they say. 1293 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 3: Let's tweet out of funny tweet saying game one is over. 1294 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,760 Speaker 3: It's a game final. Game one is over. 1295 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 2: That's great, Yes, all right, be Fanwell, thank you very much, 1296 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,720 Speaker 2: as always, great job. Again, a man that you know 1297 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,559 Speaker 2: basically writes his own path which is something that very 1298 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 2: few of us have the ability to do. Once again, 1299 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,839 Speaker 2: we are company Alive from the tire Rack dot Com Studios, 1300 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Jeff Schwartz all right 1301 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 2: near in dear tu the Kansas City Chiefs. And by 1302 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,600 Speaker 2: the way, did you watch the Quarterback series on Netflix? 1303 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely? 1304 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so I did this as well. Watch the entire 1305 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,719 Speaker 2: series and remind me again. So three quarterbacks are feature 1306 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, Kirk Cousins, and Marcus Mariota. And it really 1307 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 2: turned out to be very interesting years for different reasons 1308 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 2: for all three of these quarterbacks, but ultimately Mahomes in 1309 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 2: a season that you were confident the Chiefs without Tyreek 1310 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 2: Hill would be just fine. I was convinced they were 1311 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,160 Speaker 2: going to go the other direction, and they won the 1312 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, so I would think, wow, Okay, So here's 1313 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 2: Mahomes and he agreed to do season one of this 1314 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 2: quarterback series and it followed his path all the way 1315 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,760 Speaker 2: to the ultimate winning the Super Bowl. And yet every 1316 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 2: back in this league says no to season two. The 1317 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 2: latest Jimmy Garoppolo, Jalen Hurts, Trevor Lawrence to a tongue bye, Law, 1318 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Gino Smith, Justin Fields have all said no 1319 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 2: to this quarterback series. Why do you think that is? 1320 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,240 Speaker 2: I mean considering that Mahomes said yes and he won 1321 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. 1322 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 3: So Mariota, by the way, was also a late add 1323 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,599 Speaker 3: to that. I think there was supposed to be another 1324 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 3: quarterback who was doing it. 1325 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 2: But the Mario the story was interesting because he was 1326 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,479 Speaker 2: back with Arthur Smith. He's trying to resurrect his career. 1327 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great story, but I think it 1328 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 3: was added. It was added late. Yeah, they don't want 1329 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 3: to do it because they don't want cameras in their 1330 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 3: face all season long. 1331 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 2: Well, you also have to have a wife or a 1332 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 2: girlfriend that's willing to go along with this. All three 1333 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 2: of the player's wives, and you know they were all 1334 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 2: going through pregnancies as well, or two of them were. 1335 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 3: I know there was an ultra sound room with them. 1336 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1337 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 3: The one thing I will say is that it's it's 1338 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 3: it's actually the cameras are around the families less you think. 1339 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:00,600 Speaker 5: Now. 1340 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 3: I know they put a camera up in you know, 1341 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 3: they followed them every game, but that camera's like in 1342 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 3: their face during those times. The only interview in at 1343 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 3: the house, you know, five six days, it's not like 1344 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 3: a lot of days. They just make it into a 1345 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:12,840 Speaker 3: lot of content. 1346 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 2: Yes, how about the coaches involved, and you also have 1347 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 2: to have head coaches? 1348 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, Andy Reid was was sort of was kind of 1349 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:21,640 Speaker 3: loosely involved, right like he was. 1350 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 2: You know what was interesting about the whole Anni Reid 1351 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 2: dynamic in that show. I mean, if you didn't know 1352 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:33,960 Speaker 2: anything else, And Reid came off as like very cautious 1353 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,920 Speaker 2: in how he talked to Mahomes, how he approached hims 1354 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 2: like are you okay? Are you okay with me? Asking? 1355 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 2: He seemed submissive on that show to Patrick Mahomes okay. Well, 1356 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 2: here's which shocked me, It really shocked me. 1357 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing Andy Reid always says to his players, 1358 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 3: and players have said this. Travis co says the number 1359 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 3: He says, I want your personalities a shine, And I 1360 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 3: think with Mahomes he just wants him to play ball. 1361 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,599 Speaker 3: And I think that there's not a lot of talk 1362 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,800 Speaker 3: during the game between Mahomes and Reid. The thing I 1363 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,720 Speaker 3: noticed about the Chiefs talking about my podcast, Jeph short 1364 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 3: of smarting, if you want to check it out, everybody 1365 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,680 Speaker 3: is do you notice who Patrick Mahomes talked to on 1366 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,960 Speaker 3: the sideline after plays and who he did not talk to. 1367 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 2: He talked to well, b enemy was sitting there. 1368 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,600 Speaker 3: It was it was very rare that him and the 1369 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 3: enemy talked. It was him and Matt Naggy and him 1370 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,759 Speaker 3: Andy Reid, it was it was actually glaring. 1371 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 2: I texted, seeming like join the conversation. 1372 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 3: Because he's the head coach, He's also got to coach 1373 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 3: the rest of the game. That's why he can't be 1374 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,680 Speaker 3: there sitting with Mahomes the entiregent And there are times 1375 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 3: where people would on Twitter be like, why is he 1376 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,680 Speaker 3: not coaching? He's he's you know, he's with Mahomes during 1377 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 3: the uring third down on defense. The enemy just wasn't 1378 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 3: in discussion. Maybe they purposely chose out to show all 1379 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,600 Speaker 3: that stuff because Matt Nagg's still there and baiting Me's not. 1380 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,560 Speaker 3: But there was not a lot of interaction between the 1381 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 3: enemy and and Patrick Mahomes in the show. What I 1382 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 3: found also most fascinating about Mahomes and this is the 1383 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,600 Speaker 3: way with all these greats, man, they're just they're just 1384 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 3: mentally different, yeah, built different, and you could totally see 1385 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,800 Speaker 3: the difference between him and Cousins, and I don't you know, 1386 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 3: I actually came away liking Kirk Cousins as a human 1387 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,559 Speaker 3: a lot more than he's the same player he's always been. 1388 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,679 Speaker 3: But the amount of things that Cousins has to do too, 1389 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 3: you know, kind of mentally prepare for the week. 1390 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,560 Speaker 2: Right, It's like, well, he had the team psychologists and 1391 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 2: we're just fun on one of my fathers when he 1392 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,719 Speaker 2: was coming off the field and they're like, are you okay, 1393 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:42,800 Speaker 2: and he goes, no, I'm hurt. 1394 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. During the game. And then also to like the 1395 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 3: thing with him, you know, just calling his own number 1396 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 3: in Buffalo and missing like he kind of just had 1397 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,559 Speaker 3: momentary wigged out. We kind of like just mentally wigged 1398 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 3: out and all the things he has to do all week. 1399 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 3: And and I don't fall anyone for having to do 1400 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 3: different techniques to get mentally ready to play football, Like 1401 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,560 Speaker 3: that's I'm not knocking Cousins for this at all. But 1402 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,640 Speaker 3: he did a lot of things right. He had that 1403 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 3: thing like he put on his head to like fire 1404 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 3: his brain waves properly, and Mahomes did none of those days. 1405 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 3: He just like he just has it right, He just 1406 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 3: has it, yeah, And it's very easy to see why 1407 01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 3: Cousins is a good NFL quarterback and not anything elite. 1408 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 2: I would almost call him functional. In fact, on the 1409 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 2: other side, I want to get to this because our 1410 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 2: buddy Bucky Brooks said something a few weeks back about 1411 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 2: this running back situation going on in the NFL that 1412 01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 2: really to me. Hit it right on the note. See 1413 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 2: if you agree. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman 1414 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,720 Speaker 2: and Jeff Schwartz, Fox Sports Saturday. We are live from 1415 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studios. Adam Kaplan, our Fox 1416 01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:01,840 Speaker 2: Sports Radio NFL Insider will not be is today. Apparently, Jeff, 1417 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,680 Speaker 2: he's attending a wedding, and I'm like, I mean, are 1418 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 2: you kidding me? It's a NFL season. You're that there's 1419 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 2: nothing else in your life if you're an NFL guy. 1420 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 2: But we'll welcome him back next week, all right, Bucky 1421 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 2: Brooks and I've been doing a lot of shows with Bucky, 1422 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 2: and I was talking about this quarterback series on Netflix, 1423 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 2: and I was watching it with my son Garrett, and 1424 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 2: every time they would show a highlight of a Vikings 1425 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 2: game with Kirk Cousins, Davin Cook would be taking a 1426 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 2: screen pass and going sixty yards for a touchdown right, 1427 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 2: And my son Garrett, who was twenty five, he says, 1428 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 2: why did they dump him? I said, well, I guess 1429 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 2: they just didn't want to pay the price. But Bucky 1430 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,840 Speaker 2: Brooks said something. I want to get your thoughts. So 1431 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 2: Bucky said, here's the deal about having a top level 1432 01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 2: running back. If you're a quarterback of the level of 1433 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 2: a Tom Brady of Patrick Mahomes, you don't need a 1434 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 2: top flight running back. I mean, when you think about it, 1435 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 2: during his entire run in New England, it was running 1436 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,519 Speaker 2: back by committee in New England, I mean, had some 1437 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 2: better guys on Cordy Dellon was pretty good, but you know, 1438 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 2: for the most part it was quarterback, you know, running 1439 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 2: back by committee. Correct, same thing in Kansas City during 1440 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,280 Speaker 2: the Patrick Mahomes run. But if you're a middle level 1441 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 2: quarterback and Kirk Cousins is one of those, or Jimmy Garoppolo, 1442 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 2: having a franchise level running back probably something you could use. 1443 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 2: And you know, the Vikings have dismissed the idea that 1444 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,719 Speaker 2: they can will miss Dalvin Cook. I think they're gonna 1445 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,120 Speaker 2: miss him terribly. But I want to get your thoughts 1446 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 2: on what Bucky had to say about what kind of 1447 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 2: a team really can benefit from a go to running 1448 01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 2: back of that caliber. 1449 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:59,680 Speaker 3: So that that's a good way to say that you 1450 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,599 Speaker 3: don't trust your quarterback and we have to design offense 1451 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:07,680 Speaker 3: that we design offense that doesn't rely on him to 1452 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 3: be the offense. If you're saying that you need the 1453 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 3: running back to be that good for again, a middling quarterback, 1454 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,720 Speaker 3: that means that you don't trust that quarterback. 1455 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,880 Speaker 2: To be your entire offense, like Ryan Tannehill, like. 1456 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,320 Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehel, which is which is fair for Tannehil. Yeah, 1457 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,519 Speaker 3: so that's what's just telling you. So it's telling you 1458 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,639 Speaker 3: that there is a level of quarterback in the league 1459 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 3: that does not need to have a run game to win. Now, 1460 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 3: I think it's good to have a run game. I 1461 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:38,640 Speaker 3: think it's good to be physical and to set the 1462 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 3: tone for your team to be able to like hit 1463 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 3: people in the mouth. But it's telling you, obviously the 1464 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 3: Mahomes does not need to have a quarterback, I mean 1465 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 3: elite running back to win, which is absolutely true. I'm 1466 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:57,639 Speaker 3: curious about Cousins because the way the offense operates, they 1467 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 3: might be okay with rotating running back. It's a Shanahan offense. Right, 1468 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 3: A lot of times those offenses don't require elite talents 1469 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 3: at running back, and this is one of those where 1470 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,880 Speaker 3: it's a Shanahan offense, and I'm not sure he totally 1471 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 3: needs to have that guy to be successful. I'm very curious, 1472 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,960 Speaker 3: like you said, like Bucky said, but I'm not sure 1473 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 3: it's it's totally necessary. 1474 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,599 Speaker 2: Did you start to read between the lines with Kevin 1475 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,639 Speaker 2: O'Connell on that quarterback series that he just really wasn't 1476 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,519 Speaker 2: sold on Kirk Cousins. I mean, every interview they seem 1477 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 2: to do with Kevin O'Connell, at no point did he gush. 1478 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 2: Even though they were winning all these one score games. 1479 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,080 Speaker 2: It was, you know, eleven to zero until they lost 1480 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 2: that playoff game to the Giants. He'd never seen all 1481 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,320 Speaker 2: that enthusiastic about Kirk Cousins. 1482 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 3: I think he felt it felt the year was spent 1483 01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,479 Speaker 3: trying to figure him out. Yeah, figure out what buttons 1484 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 3: to push, how to coach him to the best of 1485 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:58,120 Speaker 3: his ability, because he seemed like he could go haywire 1486 01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:58,879 Speaker 3: in a heartbeat. 1487 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,120 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna which gears a little bit to 1488 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,920 Speaker 2: a different sport, and Jeff I got some good news 1489 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 2: for you. This is Fox Sports Saturday. 1490 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,840 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1491 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,240 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 1492 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 1493 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:18,200 Speaker 1: listen live. 1494 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, reunited on this Saturday, Hartman and Schwartz. We're 1495 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the ti iraq dot com studios tyrad 1496 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,680 Speaker 2: dot com. We're gonna help get you there and I'm 1497 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 2: match selection fast free shipping, free road as a protection 1498 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommended installers ti iraq dot com The 1499 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,759 Speaker 2: way tire buying should be So. Jeff is a native 1500 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 2: Southern Californian and he lives in the Carolinas ness and 1501 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:53,759 Speaker 2: here in Socoal And. I know we've had very intense 1502 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 2: heat throughout much of the country, but we've actually had 1503 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,560 Speaker 2: a fairly mild here in so Cal. We did have 1504 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,760 Speaker 2: a run there for about a month, but today it 1505 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 2: was in mid eighties, beautiful weather here in so Cal. 1506 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,480 Speaker 2: I understand you were involved in some kind of athletic 1507 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:13,800 Speaker 2: endeavor earlier today. 1508 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was on the golf course today and it 1509 01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 3: was it was It wasn't hot for the first part, 1510 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,559 Speaker 3: but when we got out there in the morning. Mid 1511 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 3: morning it was eighty three percent humidity, I think with 1512 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 3: seventy with the due point it was at seventy six. 1513 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,240 Speaker 3: And we ended with a there's a Panthers game on 1514 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 3: right now. They kicked off. It felt like ninety nine 1515 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 3: degrees outside. Yeah, it's it's warm. 1516 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,479 Speaker 2: I actually looking at Bryce Young right now, he doesn't 1517 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:44,640 Speaker 2: have any sweat on him. 1518 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 3: Well out, he's out now. He played his two series 1519 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 3: and pretty series. He's done. I got done golfing. It 1520 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:53,240 Speaker 3: felt like I had done an NFL workout. I'm also 1521 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,640 Speaker 3: obviously overweight, out of shape. It didn't help any of 1522 01:22:55,640 --> 01:23:00,120 Speaker 3: this discussion, but it was it was like exhausting to 1523 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 3: be out there. Buddy. 1524 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 2: All right, well, I hope you're a little bit cooler 1525 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 2: right now. I got some good news for you. Okay, 1526 01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,880 Speaker 2: So these are these are the dog days this summer, 1527 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,760 Speaker 2: right and as we mentioned, if you're anxious for the 1528 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 2: NFL season, we still have a couple more weeks before 1529 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,080 Speaker 2: we finally get that game that matters between the Chiefs 1530 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,280 Speaker 2: and the Lions. How you sitting there and then then baseball, 1531 01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 2: you know, we're we're in those dog days. But there 1532 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:28,280 Speaker 2: is some good news. You're San Francisco Giants with honestly 1533 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,639 Speaker 2: a roster that's about as anonymous as any in the league. 1534 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,600 Speaker 2: Right now. I know they've lost their last three in 1535 01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 2: a row, but there's still two games clear in terms 1536 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 2: of a wild card spot. I dare say it makes 1537 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,759 Speaker 2: no sense. Gabe Kapler, the pride of my high school, 1538 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,599 Speaker 2: Taft High School, he went to the same high school 1539 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 2: I went to, is doing an unbelievable job with this 1540 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,280 Speaker 2: baseball atte I mean two years ago. Of course, they 1541 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,800 Speaker 2: had one hundred and seven win season, which still to 1542 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 2: me is one of the greatest. That that's season will 1543 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:05,479 Speaker 2: be dissected forever by baseball. They still try to figure 1544 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:09,519 Speaker 2: out how that team won one hundred and seven games 1545 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 2: to wrestle the NLS title from a one hundred and 1546 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:16,320 Speaker 2: six win Dodger team. But I dare say your Giants 1547 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:21,080 Speaker 2: this year may actually be a bigger, bigger miracle team. 1548 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they have one player I know who 1549 01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,559 Speaker 3: plays regularly, which is uh, which is Patrick Bailey, who's 1550 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,200 Speaker 3: actually there. I mean, he wasn't the start the season, 1551 01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 3: didn't start the season as their as their catcher, but 1552 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,639 Speaker 3: ended up having to play because of injuries. And he's 1553 01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 3: been like incredible since then. Yeah, it's uh, it's pretty 1554 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 3: remarkable that they continue to do this with just like 1555 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,799 Speaker 3: platooning they have. They have these incredible splits and bullpen 1556 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 3: games when their bullpen just pitches all game. It's it's unexplainable. 1557 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 3: Last night was very cool because Bruce Bochi came back 1558 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 3: as the Rangers manager. By the way, no surprise. Boach 1559 01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 3: is doing incredible in Texas. 1560 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 2: He's only one of my favorite people. As you know, 1561 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,759 Speaker 2: I knew him extremely well in his years with the Podereis. 1562 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 2: I interviewed him a couple of years ago trying to 1563 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,000 Speaker 2: convince him to come back to the Podres. He was 1564 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:14,760 Speaker 2: very coy, insisting that he was retired. It was a 1565 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,200 Speaker 2: perfect situation because he went to a team with the 1566 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:21,760 Speaker 2: Rangers that's willing to spend money. Yes, and you know, 1567 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,360 Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean they're probably and you know what 1568 01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 2: the good news for him is because he's going to 1569 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,600 Speaker 2: be in the Hall of and we obviously know that. 1570 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:33,280 Speaker 2: But he actually has a losing record in his career 1571 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,760 Speaker 2: barely and this season with the Rangers is inching of 1572 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,120 Speaker 2: at least over five hundred, close to five hundred. So 1573 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,920 Speaker 2: I love Boach. I love Boach, but continue on it. 1574 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 3: It's just great to see Boat. It was great to 1575 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 3: see him last night back and the cheers he was 1576 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,839 Speaker 3: getting on the same ovation I have. You know, baseball 1577 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,960 Speaker 3: to me has gotten the point in my life where 1578 01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 3: it's a lot like basketball. I'll just kind of catch 1579 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:02,839 Speaker 3: in the postseason. 1580 01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,439 Speaker 2: I mean, I watch baseball, but I'm watch watchable now 1581 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 2: because the games are i mean, the clock is worked. 1582 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, it's it's fantastic. Yeah, but you know, in 1583 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,600 Speaker 3: the summer, when I'm traveling as much as I do 1584 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 3: and I'm not in front of my computer as much, 1585 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,120 Speaker 3: i just don't have as much time to just sit 1586 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,680 Speaker 3: and watch Giants baseball and pause. Again, like the no 1587 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,439 Speaker 3: superstar thing is real. They're the only superstars. It's it's 1588 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 3: incredible that they're where they're at again like they were 1589 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,160 Speaker 3: two years ago. But not stupid. They're always in the running, right. 1590 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 3: They're always close to getting Aaron Judge. They were so 1591 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 3: close to getting cars Korea. They were so close in 1592 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,280 Speaker 3: this trade deadline to Verlander. Yeah, just they're always close, 1593 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,720 Speaker 3: always close, but never never closing on anything. It's kind 1594 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,680 Speaker 3: of frustrating as a fan, Like they're not gonna win 1595 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,479 Speaker 3: the World Series. We don't make it tough for the Dodgers. 1596 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,160 Speaker 3: Maybe in the playoffs. I don't know, it'd be fun 1597 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 3: to watch. 1598 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 2: The Braves are so good then now no, man, I 1599 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 2: mean they're they're lapping the field right now. But I 1600 01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,799 Speaker 2: believe that this has been a big comeback year for baseball. 1601 01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 2: And I mean the first, the first game I went 1602 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,840 Speaker 2: to Dodger Stadium this year, I couldn't take my eye 1603 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,840 Speaker 2: off this clock. I mean, to see a running clock 1604 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:14,439 Speaker 2: at a ballpark to me was just it just seemed unreal. 1605 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,760 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a game without a clock. But man, 1606 01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,840 Speaker 2: it works. I mean we took in a day game. 1607 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 2: You know, it was hot and everything else. Two hours 1608 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,639 Speaker 2: and ten minutes. Yeah, and it wasn't a one nothing game. 1609 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,560 Speaker 2: There was plenty of action. It just moved along and 1610 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,600 Speaker 2: it's like bang, all right. I'm getting used to, you know, 1611 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,719 Speaker 2: like the old days when you go to the ballpark 1612 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,800 Speaker 2: and it felt like I could go on line for 1613 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,240 Speaker 2: like forty five minutes and miss an inning, Like I'm 1614 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,880 Speaker 2: not gonna miss much. Now you go and you come back, 1615 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 2: You're like what I left in the third, it's the 1616 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 2: seventh I missed like half the game. 1617 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,599 Speaker 3: But it's work did a great job with this. Yes, 1618 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,680 Speaker 3: you know, they decided that it was time to make 1619 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,320 Speaker 3: a change, and they did it. They led change, and 1620 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,840 Speaker 3: do those of me push back from the old folks 1621 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 3: that want to keep it the tradition. But also the 1622 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,519 Speaker 3: players wanted this too. They didn't want to play four 1623 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,960 Speaker 3: hour games, three and a half hour games. They wanted 1624 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 3: this too. And because of the of the positivity around 1625 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 3: the decision, more people are I think, are tuning in 1626 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 3: to be like, oh, okay, I can watch a game, 1627 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,400 Speaker 3: you know, I can watch a quick, quick game. I 1628 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,759 Speaker 3: took my kids to a couple of minor league games. 1629 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,400 Speaker 3: It just goes by. So I remember the first time 1630 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 3: I took them to a game. This year, we're our 1631 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,800 Speaker 3: forty five in my kids start losing interests, right, But 1632 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,719 Speaker 3: we were in the seventh inning already. That had typically 1633 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 3: been four innings in, you know, in previous versions of baseball. 1634 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,880 Speaker 3: So it's an all around whin. You know, I think 1635 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:46,880 Speaker 3: I'm curious about I don't think that I don't think 1636 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 3: they're going to have clock violations in the postseason. As 1637 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 3: my guests, they're not going to determine some of these 1638 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,080 Speaker 3: bigger games by you know, by some of these violations. 1639 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,439 Speaker 3: But it's good they went this direction for the regular 1640 01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,439 Speaker 3: season at least, you know. 1641 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,600 Speaker 2: The early struggles for pitchers like Verlander and Schurzer, I 1642 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 2: think veteran pitchers had a harder time adjusting to the clock. 1643 01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,200 Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. If you've been playing fifteen 1644 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 2: plus years of Major League Baseball under one system, you know, 1645 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,640 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're staring at a clock. Now, 1646 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 2: those guys figured it out, and they're pitching much better 1647 01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,680 Speaker 2: right now. By the way, you mentioned you were at 1648 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,360 Speaker 2: a minor league game. I want to do a shout 1649 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,800 Speaker 2: out right now. I don't do this often, but I 1650 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:30,439 Speaker 2: was actually at the Rancha Cuckamonga Quaits game this past week. 1651 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,680 Speaker 2: They're a single a minor league affiliate now for the Dodgers, 1652 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,400 Speaker 2: and a friend of mine had tickets and we made 1653 01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,599 Speaker 2: the hall out there, and I realized when I got 1654 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,479 Speaker 2: there that the last time I'd been there at Ratcha 1655 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:46,439 Speaker 2: Cucamonga Quakes was for the opening of their stadium and 1656 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,639 Speaker 2: the creation of the team back in nineteen ninety three. 1657 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,799 Speaker 2: I was there doing my radio show when they opened 1658 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,760 Speaker 2: this ballpark, and there was a man there. I was 1659 01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,000 Speaker 2: walking around, you know, one of the older guys working 1660 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,080 Speaker 2: at you know, the ball park, just taking in the 1661 01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,320 Speaker 2: game and having a good time. And I introduced myself 1662 01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,519 Speaker 2: and he goes, oh, I know who you are. Yeah, 1663 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 2: I've I've listened to you forever. And I had a 1664 01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 2: great conversation. His name is Patrick Kelly. And I want 1665 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,760 Speaker 2: to do a shout out because, you know, every once 1666 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,560 Speaker 2: in a while when I when I come across some 1667 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,400 Speaker 2: people that you know, have been listening to me, like, 1668 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,479 Speaker 2: you know, since the beginning of time, it seems like, yeah, yeah, 1669 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,000 Speaker 2: you appreciate it. I mean I've been like it's a 1670 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,479 Speaker 2: long time doing this type of thing. But I love 1671 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 2: minor league baseball. Oh they have all kinds of promotions 1672 01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:32,639 Speaker 2: during the game and everything else. 1673 01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1674 01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the team that you take your kids to. 1675 01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,240 Speaker 3: The Charlotte Knights. They're the White Sox tripoy team. 1676 01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:38,679 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 1677 01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:43,519 Speaker 3: And right right in right uptown, So right in downtown Charlotte. Beautiful, 1678 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,519 Speaker 3: beautiful view of the city. 1679 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 2: There's something to love about the game of baseball. I 1680 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,000 Speaker 2: I you know, when I grew up, baseball was king 1681 01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,160 Speaker 2: and that's a long time ago. And obviously the NFL 1682 01:30:56,280 --> 01:31:01,400 Speaker 2: now just has lapped every sport ten times over. But 1683 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,560 Speaker 2: there is something about the nature of the game of 1684 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,320 Speaker 2: baseball that, at least for me, is still very appealing. 1685 01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 3: I love baseball, man, I love the changes they made. 1686 01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,840 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I mean you're limiting the number of throws 1687 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,280 Speaker 2: to first base, which, by the way, coincides a lot 1688 01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,840 Speaker 2: more stolen bases, which is the way he used to be. 1689 01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,519 Speaker 2: Every team had a leadoff guy. He would get on 1690 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,800 Speaker 2: base and then you would be like, is he gonna 1691 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,599 Speaker 2: steal second? There was a certain level excitement. They're moving 1692 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,960 Speaker 2: runners around. It's were and by the way, the long 1693 01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,040 Speaker 2: ball is still very much with us. I didn't even 1694 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 2: ask you about show hey, man. I mean you know 1695 01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:39,800 Speaker 2: the Angels. The Angels were in no man's land with him. 1696 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,200 Speaker 2: You couldn't trade him. You can't trade a guy that's 1697 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,760 Speaker 2: having arguably the greatest season of any player in the 1698 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,479 Speaker 2: history of baseball. You just can't. Even if you can't 1699 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 2: re sign him, and all signs are he's going to 1700 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:52,960 Speaker 2: be in a Dodger uniform next year. 1701 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he will be too. But I mean 1702 01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:58,920 Speaker 3: to keep keep trying to pay for that championship. Man, 1703 01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 3: they got they got, they got the go a court. 1704 01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,240 Speaker 3: They gotta assume a third of a championship. So far, 1705 01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 3: it's just nineteen eighty eight. Man, I know, I know, 1706 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a third of a season in two thousand. 1707 01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,320 Speaker 3: They're gonna keep They're gonna keep trying to buy him. 1708 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 2: Well, Tony's different, different than anything we've ever seen in 1709 01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:15,800 Speaker 2: the history of the game. 1710 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,080 Speaker 3: I mean, we're gonna see the Yankees put a bit in, 1711 01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:19,240 Speaker 3: the Giants put a bit in. 1712 01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,400 Speaker 2: I would imagine, well, he wants to stay on the 1713 01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:22,000 Speaker 2: West Coast. 1714 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,720 Speaker 3: I think the Mariners will probably put a bit in. 1715 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,960 Speaker 2: I think the Mariners, the Giants, the Podres, and the 1716 01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 2: Dodgers are the team in play. I don't think any 1717 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:31,320 Speaker 2: other to. 1718 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 3: Add more money to the salary camp the luxury top. 1719 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,760 Speaker 2: I have no idea how aj Preller keeps his job. 1720 01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,000 Speaker 2: I put out two weeks before the trade deadline, I said, 1721 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:47,000 Speaker 2: change a plan for the Padres trade deadline fire, aj Preller. 1722 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that team is a mess, and you got 1723 01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,360 Speaker 2: a veteran manager there, and they're having team meeting after 1724 01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,960 Speaker 2: team meeting after team meeting. Now Sodo goes public saying, yeah, 1725 01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,759 Speaker 2: we just we seem to quit out there. Jeez, I'm like, wow. 1726 01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,840 Speaker 2: And yet they sell out every game, because I remember 1727 01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,639 Speaker 2: Peco when it was a ghost town. They'd sold out 1728 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,479 Speaker 2: all but I think six games. So the money's pouring 1729 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,599 Speaker 2: in that they're not winning any games, all right. Coming 1730 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:14,880 Speaker 2: up on the other side, we'll get back to the 1731 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,760 Speaker 2: NFL because we know that's that's what most people care about. 1732 01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,120 Speaker 2: That's the only thing that most people care about. And 1733 01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,000 Speaker 2: as we get ready for the start of the season, 1734 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to last year teams that 1735 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:27,800 Speaker 2: could have made me a lot of money if I 1736 01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 2: had the foresight on the kind of seasons they were 1737 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,839 Speaker 2: going to have and which teams maybe you should gamble 1738 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,880 Speaker 2: on to have that breakout twenty twenty three season. We'll 1739 01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:42,559 Speaker 2: tell you which one's. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve 1740 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,479 Speaker 2: Harbin and Jeff Schwartz, Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming alive 1741 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 2: from the ti iraq dot Com studios. 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I mean, you'd like to wager 1755 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,080 Speaker 2: on sports, by the way, just a quick side note. 1756 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean, we're getting so many gambling stories these days, 1757 01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,240 Speaker 2: whether it's Phil Mickelson betting a billion dollars over the 1758 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,360 Speaker 2: course of his lifetime, the scandal that's rocking Iowa and 1759 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:53,200 Speaker 2: Iowa state NFL players getting suspended all the time, seemingly 1760 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:57,600 Speaker 2: now for gambling on well, non NFL games, but on 1761 01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,599 Speaker 2: the premises of their NFL team. What do you make 1762 01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:06,160 Speaker 2: of all this sweeping scandal involving the gambling world. 1763 01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so obviously it's easy to do now, right because 1764 01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,439 Speaker 3: a lot of these states have apps to make it happen. 1765 01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,320 Speaker 3: It's legal, but it doesn't mean it's it's allowed, right, 1766 01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:24,680 Speaker 3: And I don't understand the idea that because a partnership 1767 01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:28,720 Speaker 3: is in place between the NFL and any sort of 1768 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,360 Speaker 3: the gambling companies, or that college sports might partner with 1769 01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,479 Speaker 3: gambling companies. I don't think they do. Actually that therefore 1770 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,880 Speaker 3: should be allowed to bet on your own games. The 1771 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:43,439 Speaker 3: NFL and pro sports leagues have partnerships with alcohol companies. 1772 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,560 Speaker 3: Is it okay to then drink at the facility? Like 1773 01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,880 Speaker 3: that's it. I don't get the reason you can have 1774 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:53,280 Speaker 3: these rules, and there's reasons why they're in place. There's 1775 01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,959 Speaker 3: a reason why the integrity of the game is so important. 1776 01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,320 Speaker 3: There's a reason why when now we hear these stories 1777 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,439 Speaker 3: about these Iowa and Ioway stated players that bet on 1778 01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:05,040 Speaker 3: their own football games. Yeah, you have to think about 1779 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:05,320 Speaker 3: the tech. 1780 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:05,479 Speaker 4: Now. 1781 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,240 Speaker 3: I think none of these players were throwing games. I 1782 01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:12,679 Speaker 3: do not believe that. But we only have to question 1783 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,680 Speaker 3: the integrity of the game because players are betting on 1784 01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,439 Speaker 3: their own games. And to me, it's very simple. They 1785 01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 3: let you gamble on other sports. Just gamble on those sports. 1786 01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,519 Speaker 3: Why do you have the need to gamble on your 1787 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:27,160 Speaker 3: own sport? 1788 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:27,439 Speaker 4: Man? 1789 01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:31,600 Speaker 3: Can you imagine if you're one of these players and 1790 01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:36,280 Speaker 3: you bet on your team to win a game and 1791 01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:39,599 Speaker 3: you lost that game. Not only are you sad because 1792 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,720 Speaker 3: you lost, now your wall's a little bit lighter. Like 1793 01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,320 Speaker 3: it's already stressful enough to play in a game without 1794 01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 3: adding the financial component to play in that game. And 1795 01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:54,880 Speaker 3: I think the dumbest thing of all of this is 1796 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,920 Speaker 3: that these players are doing it for like five and 1797 01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:01,080 Speaker 3: ten dollars. It's not that they're betting ten on a game. 1798 01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:06,040 Speaker 3: They're betting five dollars. They're losing their sports career for 1799 01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,960 Speaker 3: five dollars wagers on whether and some are a little 1800 01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,400 Speaker 3: bit more obviously one hundred dollars wagers on whether Iowa's 1801 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,439 Speaker 3: going to cover a game that an Iowa Hawkeye is playing. 1802 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:19,960 Speaker 3: It's really dumb. And the players know the rules, this 1803 01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:24,280 Speaker 3: is discussed. They know they cannot bet on their own sport, 1804 01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,919 Speaker 3: let alone their own game, and they do it anyways, 1805 01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:30,680 Speaker 3: and those players are gonna lose their career, Steve, It's unfortunate, 1806 01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,560 Speaker 3: it stinks it's that way, but it's their responsibility. You know, 1807 01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:39,320 Speaker 3: you have to. If we're gonna treat these players like professionals, 1808 01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,120 Speaker 3: they're gonna be paid, they have nil deals, They're gonna 1809 01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,400 Speaker 3: be able to transfer and move whenever they want. They 1810 01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,320 Speaker 3: are responsible enough to understand the rules about not wagering 1811 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,800 Speaker 3: on their own contest. And it's very simple, it's very 1812 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,559 Speaker 3: easy not to do. Just don't gamble on your own games, 1813 01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:58,400 Speaker 3: and don't gamble with your own name on one of 1814 01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,400 Speaker 3: these accounts on your mom's day one these accounts. Just 1815 01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:06,040 Speaker 3: don't do it. I very much enjoy to enjoy gambling 1816 01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,880 Speaker 3: when I played. I never once thought about it. It 1817 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,800 Speaker 3: wasn't legal obviously in our country. But I never thought 1818 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,400 Speaker 3: about the line. I knew what some college lines were 1819 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,759 Speaker 3: because you know, when I was in the NFL and whatnot. 1820 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,519 Speaker 3: Because we would every now and then an offensive line room, 1821 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,240 Speaker 3: we'd just pick winners, it's like, and put them in 1822 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,040 Speaker 3: a pool by twenty bucks whatever. Uh not again, it's 1823 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,280 Speaker 3: the spread, just just winners, just cut between between us 1824 01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 3: and the offensive line room on some saturdays, and it 1825 01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,680 Speaker 3: just it. I don't I don't get the I don't 1826 01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,439 Speaker 3: get the peel of it. Man, unless it's an I 1827 01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:40,439 Speaker 3: guess it's an addiction. You call it an addiction. 1828 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:42,840 Speaker 2: That is very much it. 1829 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,360 Speaker 3: I don't get the appeal of waging on your own games. 1830 01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:50,240 Speaker 2: People. People don't understand that that don't have addictive personalities 1831 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,960 Speaker 2: what it is to have an addictive personality, because I've 1832 01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:58,120 Speaker 2: been around people a lot of people that have, and 1833 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,360 Speaker 2: you say, well, you know you can't do that, right, 1834 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,200 Speaker 2: They don't. That's not their mindset. Now, I want to 1835 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,599 Speaker 2: go back to last year. So if I had walked 1836 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:15,200 Speaker 2: into a legal gambling establishment and walked up to a 1837 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:20,240 Speaker 2: window exactly one year ago today, and I go to 1838 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,240 Speaker 2: the window and I say, I like to do a 1839 01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:28,160 Speaker 2: four team NFL parlay, and they'd say, what is the parlay? 1840 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,760 Speaker 2: I would like to take fourteen these four teams, and 1841 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:34,800 Speaker 2: I would like to bet they will all have a 1842 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,800 Speaker 2: winning record. They will win at least nine games, They'll 1843 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,280 Speaker 2: have a winning record this season. All right, what are 1844 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,600 Speaker 2: the four teams I like to bet on? The Steelers, 1845 01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:52,720 Speaker 2: the Jaguars, this is Seahawks, and the Lions. This is 1846 01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:58,120 Speaker 2: a year ago at this time Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, Seattle and Detroit. 1847 01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,960 Speaker 2: Now I'm sure they would be laughing in my faith, 1848 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,840 Speaker 2: because the idea that all four of those teams would 1849 01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:04,439 Speaker 2: have a winning record would be what do you think 1850 01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:05,679 Speaker 2: the odds I could have gotten. 1851 01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:11,439 Speaker 3: On a four team? I like plus three thousands. 1852 01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:14,599 Speaker 2: That's what I've been geting, right, three, that all four 1853 01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,680 Speaker 2: of those teams will have a winning record. Yeah, and 1854 01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:23,000 Speaker 2: that's exactly what did happen. Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Detroit 1855 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,920 Speaker 2: all ended up with nine and eight records. So I 1856 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,720 Speaker 2: don't want to miss an opportunity, Jeff, and I want 1857 01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:32,000 Speaker 2: to take advantage of your presence here. So I want 1858 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:36,280 Speaker 2: you to give me a similar parlay going into this 1859 01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:42,000 Speaker 2: season of four teams that had losing records the year 1860 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 2: last year in twenty twenty two, that will all have 1861 01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,840 Speaker 2: winning records in twenty twenty three. 1862 01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:56,599 Speaker 3: Well, let's see here. Can I do the Steelers who 1863 01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:57,720 Speaker 3: nine to eight last year? 1864 01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, the a team that will have a winning yeah, 1865 01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:02,200 Speaker 2: go ahead, Okay. 1866 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:09,240 Speaker 3: The first one I will give you is the Carolina Panthers. 1867 01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,879 Speaker 2: All right, so seven and ten a year ago, Carolina 1868 01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:13,720 Speaker 2: will have a winning record at least nine and eight. 1869 01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:19,759 Speaker 3: I'll give you Carolina. I will give you the Cleveland Browns. 1870 01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,360 Speaker 2: Cleveland seven and ten last year will have a winning record. 1871 01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:28,160 Speaker 3: Okay for doing this exercise, right, mm hmm, I will 1872 01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,360 Speaker 3: Oh jeez, I'll give you Los Angeles Rams. 1873 01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:36,200 Speaker 2: Wow, I mean we're running out of teams. Well, there 1874 01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,840 Speaker 2: teams to be one pretty obvious team. Shouldn't the Jets 1875 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:39,960 Speaker 2: have a winning record this year. 1876 01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna they're probably my last my last choice here. 1877 01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,000 Speaker 3: I don't think they're any better than nine to eighth 1878 01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:49,800 Speaker 3: this year. So, yeah, the Jets. I guess the Jets 1879 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,400 Speaker 3: are four that'd be my fourth. 1880 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,720 Speaker 2: By the way, if I were to turn around and 1881 01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,240 Speaker 2: walk up to the same booth and I say, those 1882 01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,360 Speaker 2: four teams that I bet on last year to have 1883 01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,800 Speaker 2: winning record, it's Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Detroit. I like 1884 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,920 Speaker 2: to do a four way parlay that all four of 1885 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,559 Speaker 2: those teams will have a losing record in twenty twenty three. 1886 01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:13,240 Speaker 3: Oh, you would get you'd be able to plus thirty 1887 01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,160 Speaker 3: thousand twenty thousand twenty. 1888 01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:19,360 Speaker 2: So the idea the Steelers, the Jaguars, the Lions, and 1889 01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:23,080 Speaker 2: the Seahawks will all have losing records this year. 1890 01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:27,160 Speaker 3: Well, right now, let's see some mere NFL win totals. 1891 01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,080 Speaker 2: I think the Seattle, I think they're all around eight 1892 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:32,200 Speaker 2: and nine right now, right. 1893 01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,240 Speaker 3: Hell, Hell, Jacksonville's nine and a half. I just did theirs. Yeah, 1894 01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,120 Speaker 3: they're nine and a half. Sattle's eight and a half. 1895 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:39,200 Speaker 3: Who'd you say, Pitts? 1896 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,640 Speaker 2: I think I think Detroit's nine and a half and 1897 01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,000 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is eight and a half. 1898 01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:45,040 Speaker 3: You would get you would get less, it would be 1899 01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,240 Speaker 3: plus you know, fifteen thousands something like that. All right, 1900 01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,559 Speaker 3: but I think that the Steelers will be over five. 1901 01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,240 Speaker 3: I love the Steelers over eight and a half. Wow, 1902 01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:55,599 Speaker 3: And I like Jackson over nine and a half. 1903 01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,840 Speaker 2: What about Detroit the sexy pick to win the NFC? 1904 01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,760 Speaker 3: No, the sexy offensive they saw Jared Goff? 1905 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,160 Speaker 2: Like, come on, like, Jared Goff played really well last year. 1906 01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,679 Speaker 2: He probably should have made the Pro Bowl last year. 1907 01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,240 Speaker 2: You don't think I mean that offense. I mean the 1908 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,920 Speaker 2: problem with the Lions was that defense was just atrocious 1909 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:21,519 Speaker 2: last year. 1910 01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:22,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim Schwartz. 1911 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,080 Speaker 2: The series running, they had the third highest scoring. They 1912 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,680 Speaker 2: scored more points last year than the forty nine ers did. 1913 01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I'm a You're not a golf guy. 1914 01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:36,880 Speaker 3: I'm just not a believer that they're going to have 1915 01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:38,679 Speaker 3: the same success this season. 1916 01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:40,960 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'll pick that up on the other side. 1917 01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,519 Speaker 2: But first, let's find out what is trending right now. 1918 01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,800 Speaker 2: So many mis gambling opportunities for me over the years. 1919 01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:52,880 Speaker 2: Are you are you a big gambler? Do you wager 1920 01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:56,240 Speaker 2: on just about everything. I don't or I do not 1921 01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,600 Speaker 2: I do with the the ponies. Growing up, had a 1922 01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:03,360 Speaker 2: family that was involved in that industry of sorts. 1923 01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,240 Speaker 5: But have kind of stayed away from that, and I 1924 01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:09,280 Speaker 5: think I'm glad that I have. So I'll just go 1925 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 5: by what Jeff does because I know that he hits 1926 01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:14,360 Speaker 5: a bunch of winners. So I encourage people to follow Jeole. 1927 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,240 Speaker 2: I mean, to be to be an effective gambler, you 1928 01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,599 Speaker 2: have to accept the idea that you're going to lose. 1929 01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,799 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the best, the best, the best gambers 1930 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,080 Speaker 3: of the NFL hit you know, fifty six percent like you, 1931 01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,439 Speaker 3: You're not gonna I am very very good at the 1932 01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,479 Speaker 3: PAC twelve. I think I'm about fifty eighty nine percent 1933 01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:32,840 Speaker 3: in the last three years in PAC twelve. 1934 01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:36,160 Speaker 2: Well that's gone, I know. So yeah, one more big warts. 1935 01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:37,599 Speaker 3: It's kind of a bummer that, Mike. 1936 01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,519 Speaker 2: Are you gonna double down being this is the last 1937 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,599 Speaker 2: year the PAC twelve, like double down on your packer? 1938 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:45,200 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no. I don't even 1939 01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:46,760 Speaker 3: know what weak ones I like. But yeah, I'm a 1940 01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm big into the college. 1941 01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,920 Speaker 2: Football is a much easier wager than the NFL for sure. 1942 01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,439 Speaker 3: Well, if you follow a conference like the PAC twelve 1943 01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:56,320 Speaker 3: and people aren't putting down as much money, Yes, the 1944 01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,320 Speaker 3: NFL is so hard because everyone's betting on them each week. 1945 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably best you stay away from our beta. 1946 01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,960 Speaker 5: Probably probably. And you know, there was this song by 1947 01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,960 Speaker 5: the Rolling Stones. It was something like you can't always 1948 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:13,200 Speaker 5: get what you want, can't always get yes, And I 1949 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 5: feel like that rings true right now for seventy six 1950 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:19,120 Speaker 5: Ers James Harden because he wanted to trade. He's not 1951 01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:20,519 Speaker 5: going to get when the team has told him that, 1952 01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,640 Speaker 5: according to ESPN, and he is going to have to 1953 01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:26,200 Speaker 5: find his way back into training camp in the fall 1954 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:30,200 Speaker 5: in Philadelphia, although there were some flirtatious discussions that the 1955 01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,080 Speaker 5: Sixers had reportedly with the Clippers. 1956 01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:36,680 Speaker 2: He's not going anywhere, right, and why would they trade him? Well, 1957 01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,960 Speaker 2: I mean this idea of guys demanding trades, I mean, 1958 01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:42,800 Speaker 2: I love what Portland is doing with Dame. Like they're saying, 1959 01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna do what's best for the team. I mean, 1960 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,960 Speaker 2: if we were not going to give you away, you know, 1961 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,080 Speaker 2: if you're if you're calling the Clippers about James Harden, 1962 01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:58,440 Speaker 2: what do you want to return? But so Vizza Zubots. 1963 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:00,840 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, but you know this matter for 1964 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,760 Speaker 3: so many years, so many years, NBA players said they 1965 01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:06,360 Speaker 3: wanted out and they were able to go. You know, 1966 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:10,880 Speaker 3: NFL players obviously like they don't have that say and 1967 01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:12,240 Speaker 3: I think they're training more at the NFL. 1968 01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 2: I'll be like nop like, you know, yeah, memoray Aaron 1969 01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,160 Speaker 2: Rodge a couple of years ago, I told her he's 1970 01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:21,439 Speaker 2: not going anywhere. I don't care what you're saying. Are 1971 01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:22,960 Speaker 2: not trading him? 1972 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:24,559 Speaker 3: He said the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. 1973 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,840 Speaker 5: By the way, Jim Harbaugh is not going anywhere as 1974 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,160 Speaker 5: of laid, considering that he's actually going to be on 1975 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,200 Speaker 5: the field for every game this year, that according to 1976 01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:35,800 Speaker 5: multiple outlets, because initially there was this agreement that he 1977 01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,519 Speaker 5: had reportedly apparently with the nca down a four game 1978 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:41,880 Speaker 5: suspension that has fallen apart. So you're going to see 1979 01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:47,320 Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh, in his greatness, walking waltzing across the sideline 1980 01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:50,559 Speaker 5: of every single one of these games this upcoming year. 1981 01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,719 Speaker 5: DeMar Hamlin, what a story this is getting into game 1982 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,320 Speaker 5: action today in the Bills preseason. That's just seven months 1983 01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:00,879 Speaker 5: after he suffered that cardiac arrest. Made a couple tackles 1984 01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,240 Speaker 5: as well, and this wasn't a win for the Bills 1985 01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:06,479 Speaker 5: over the Colts. We do have some other games that 1986 01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,680 Speaker 5: are actually going on right now, including the Cowboys. They 1987 01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,800 Speaker 5: have finally scored as we look at preseason games seven, 1988 01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,920 Speaker 5: they have, but the Jaguars have fourteen late stages up 1989 01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,559 Speaker 5: the second quarter, Trevor Lawrence has a touchdown throw. 1990 01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:20,920 Speaker 2: The Jets and Panthers. 1991 01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:23,040 Speaker 5: Are battling, and it's all New York twenty to nothing, 1992 01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:26,000 Speaker 5: two twenty left in the fourth quarter. Our first look 1993 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:29,400 Speaker 5: at Bryce Young two drives four to six through the air, 1994 01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:33,560 Speaker 5: twenty one yards for him. Zach Wilson showing off with 1995 01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,439 Speaker 5: fourteen completions one hundred and twenty three yards passing in 1996 01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:41,120 Speaker 5: that one touchdown. Games earlier I mentioned one involving the Bills, 1997 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,360 Speaker 5: the other one Bears over the Titans twenty three to seventeen. 1998 01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:49,479 Speaker 5: I'm already seeing guys headlines. Justin fields was sharp. I'm 1999 01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:54,600 Speaker 5: already seeing that. Although he mentioned those perfect three completions, 2000 01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,439 Speaker 5: and yes it was for one hundred twenty nine yards, 2001 01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:58,559 Speaker 5: but it was all yards after the Cats. 2002 01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,400 Speaker 2: He actually the passes were for a combined negative seven 2003 01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:07,240 Speaker 2: yards actual pass all behind the line air yard attempts. 2004 01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:10,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and lastly, guys quickly in Major League Baseball, the 2005 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,000 Speaker 5: Cubs have taken a lead again, five to four. As 2006 01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:14,679 Speaker 5: the Blue Jays are going to be batting the bottom 2007 01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,799 Speaker 5: of the ninth, we do know that Rays are trailing. 2008 01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:19,360 Speaker 5: The Guardians fight to to the top of the eighth 2009 01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:23,599 Speaker 5: as Cleveland looking add on with runners on first and second, 2010 01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:29,799 Speaker 5: and two finals one involving the Braves who just rattle 2011 01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,519 Speaker 5: the Mets twenty one to three. And that was the 2012 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:36,200 Speaker 5: doubleheader game one of a makeup from April twenty ninth, 2013 01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:39,080 Speaker 5: and I think that the Mets are letting everybody know that, hey, 2014 01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:42,200 Speaker 5: they could win another game, maybe one the rest of 2015 01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,719 Speaker 5: the season. And then lastly, the Marlins over the Yankees 2016 01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,400 Speaker 5: three to one. That one final Sandy alcontre with his 2017 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:52,800 Speaker 5: fifth win of this season. With that to a winning combination. 2018 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,280 Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, Steve Hartman, thank you, b Finn. Yes, happy 2019 01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,639 Speaker 2: to be reunited on this Saturday, and once again we're 2020 01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:02,439 Speaker 2: coming to from the ty iraq dot com studios. All Right, 2021 01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna offer you a choice here on a wager 2022 01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:09,760 Speaker 2: for the upcoming NFL season. Jeff. The wager is this 2023 01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:15,840 Speaker 2: Chiefs versus the field to win the Super Bowl. Which 2024 01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,960 Speaker 2: way you're going the field? 2025 01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:23,280 Speaker 3: Really, there's been no repeat winners in two thousand and four. 2026 01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:24,320 Speaker 3: I think for a reason. 2027 01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:26,160 Speaker 2: It's very hard. 2028 01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:27,840 Speaker 3: It's very hard to do. 2029 01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:33,639 Speaker 2: Chiefs opposed to the AFC Championship five straight years. That's 2030 01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:34,599 Speaker 2: ever happened before. 2031 01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:36,599 Speaker 3: I think I think the field bet would be better. 2032 01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:41,160 Speaker 3: Fancy for what I'm gonna probably pick the Bengals to 2033 01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,479 Speaker 3: win the AFC this year. I don't feel great about it. 2034 01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:46,599 Speaker 3: I mean, I bet I picked the Bills last year 2035 01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:48,800 Speaker 3: to win. I am a Chiefs fans. I tried not 2036 01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,280 Speaker 3: to pick the Chiefs every opportunity. I get why. 2037 01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,400 Speaker 2: I mean right now. I mean after watching the Quarterback 2038 01:49:55,520 --> 01:50:02,760 Speaker 2: Series and watching the Chiefs survive the departure of Tyreek Hill, 2039 01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:05,360 Speaker 2: because my man and we went through this before the 2040 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,280 Speaker 2: start of last year, where I'm like, here, here's the problem. 2041 01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:12,479 Speaker 2: When when you lose a Tyreek Hill, then now teams 2042 01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:14,600 Speaker 2: don't have to sort of pick their poison between he 2043 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:19,680 Speaker 2: and Kelsey. And yet Kelsey is unbelievable. I mean, the 2044 01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,040 Speaker 2: guy is open all the time, even though you know 2045 01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,800 Speaker 2: he's the target, especially in the red zone. He is 2046 01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:30,639 Speaker 2: always open. I don't see I think getting that second 2047 01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:35,799 Speaker 2: Super Bowl just I just I would take the Chiefs. 2048 01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,560 Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs. The distance between the Chiefs and 2049 01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:43,640 Speaker 2: the rest of this league, I think is bigger than 2050 01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:45,439 Speaker 2: it was at the end of last season. I think 2051 01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,719 Speaker 2: the Chiefs are a runaway favorite. 2052 01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so their defense is better this year, right, they 2053 01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:56,120 Speaker 3: played five rookies last season. Defits now. Obviously, I think 2054 01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 3: Chris Jones will play this season, so I'd be obviously 2055 01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:00,880 Speaker 3: an important you know part of this. I am a 2056 01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,560 Speaker 3: little bit worried about edge rusher. They don't. They do 2057 01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,920 Speaker 3: have some young options there not great, but Chris Jones, 2058 01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,439 Speaker 3: if he plays, makes up the difference. No, they're gonna be. 2059 01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,280 Speaker 3: They're the favorite for the reason. I'm just saying that. 2060 01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:14,760 Speaker 3: I just don't pick them to win the championship. 2061 01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,559 Speaker 2: Every season is excited about the Eagles. I mean, are 2062 01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 2: bow here obviously very excited about the goals. 2063 01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:24,840 Speaker 3: The Eagles have to replace a lot of players, that's 2064 01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:25,920 Speaker 3: the that's the question, right and. 2065 01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:27,800 Speaker 2: By the way, you think of long runs, no team 2066 01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,879 Speaker 2: is repeated as NFC East champions since four. 2067 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, same years Super Bowl. I also have to they 2068 01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:36,560 Speaker 3: also have to replace both coordinators, which is something we 2069 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,400 Speaker 3: don't talk about as often when I talk about you know, 2070 01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,439 Speaker 3: who's who's replacing what. But they're they're the best team 2071 01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,120 Speaker 3: in the NFC right now. If the Niners ever got 2072 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:45,960 Speaker 3: a quarterback, they would they would be my favorite. But 2073 01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:49,240 Speaker 3: they don't have one. Who I trust. Do not trust 2074 01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,320 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. 2075 01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:53,000 Speaker 2: They won twelve games last year. 2076 01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah you're talking about Yeah, I don't trust them in 2077 01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,040 Speaker 3: the playoffs. I don't trust them to win playoff. 2078 01:51:56,720 --> 01:52:02,439 Speaker 2: Games right now? Did the Bills? I mean you just 2079 01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,400 Speaker 2: picked the Bengals in your mind. The Bengals have passed 2080 01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:06,280 Speaker 2: the Bills, right. 2081 01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the Bills are quite fascinating. 2082 01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:08,599 Speaker 8: Right. 2083 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:12,439 Speaker 3: Three years ago they lost the Chiefs the Anti Championshi Game. 2084 01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:14,519 Speaker 3: Two years ago they lost in that division a round 2085 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,639 Speaker 3: game in Kansas and Kansas City, and last day lost 2086 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:21,519 Speaker 3: a home to the Bengals. They've gone backwards, yes, and 2087 01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,800 Speaker 3: the defensive players they have drafted over the years have 2088 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:27,960 Speaker 3: not been able to develop, but I think the way 2089 01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:35,160 Speaker 3: they want them to. So you saw Brian dables absence 2090 01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:38,519 Speaker 3: really felt by the end of the season in Buffalo 2091 01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,960 Speaker 3: because Ken Dorsey was calling the plays and Josh Allen 2092 01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,840 Speaker 3: did still look as confident and as good and really 2093 01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:48,479 Speaker 3: Josh Allen has been better since that, you know, since 2094 01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:51,280 Speaker 3: the second first second season. But last year was that 2095 01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:54,439 Speaker 3: year was two years ago, and this is the year 2096 01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:56,840 Speaker 3: they went to the Anty Champsion game. That year might 2097 01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:58,800 Speaker 3: just be his best he's ever gonna play. 2098 01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:02,439 Speaker 2: Brian Dables gone, oh yeah, I mean you talk about 2099 01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:05,439 Speaker 2: coordinators and everything else. By the way, another team if 2100 01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:09,000 Speaker 2: you're looking for trends. Right, So Tom te LESCo, the 2101 01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,519 Speaker 2: general manager of the Chargers, is on his third coach. 2102 01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:13,080 Speaker 3: Right. 2103 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:16,840 Speaker 2: He had Mike McCoy and Anthony Lynn, and he has 2104 01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,479 Speaker 2: Brandon Staley. Now, all three of these coaches have one 2105 01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:22,759 Speaker 2: thing in common, and each of their first two years 2106 01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:26,479 Speaker 2: as the head coach of the Chargers, they had winning 2107 01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:31,080 Speaker 2: seasons both years and one playoff year. Of those two, 2108 01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:36,639 Speaker 2: the two coaches I mentioned McCoy and Anthony Lynn followed 2109 01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:43,840 Speaker 2: those winning seasons with two losing seasons and ended up 2110 01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:48,400 Speaker 2: being fired after their fourth year. I know that you're 2111 01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:50,240 Speaker 2: a big fan of Justin Irber, and a lot of 2112 01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,120 Speaker 2: fans there's a reason to be a fan. He's just, 2113 01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:55,200 Speaker 2: at least for the moment, the richest player in the NFL. 2114 01:53:57,479 --> 01:54:01,120 Speaker 2: Is it conceivable that the Chargers under Brandon Staley are 2115 01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:05,280 Speaker 2: heading to the same fate that his predecessors had Mike 2116 01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:06,599 Speaker 2: McCoy and Anthony Lynn. 2117 01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:10,640 Speaker 3: I I can't. I do not think so. 2118 01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm seeing a trend here. 2119 01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:19,479 Speaker 3: Say they are going to be healthy this season, which 2120 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,000 Speaker 3: is a big plus for them, Wherehon Slayer being back 2121 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:25,519 Speaker 3: and left tackle is huge. I like to killing more 2122 01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:26,800 Speaker 3: addition to the offense, you. 2123 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:29,479 Speaker 2: Got an unhappy running back who let's see, he had 2124 01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:31,280 Speaker 2: what three hundred and something touches? 2125 01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:34,600 Speaker 3: Just went over this with Devin Cook, right, Just her 2126 01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:38,080 Speaker 3: doesn't need that, right. Also, I would imagine Austin Eclerk 2127 01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:39,400 Speaker 3: gets the ball a little bit less out of the 2128 01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,320 Speaker 3: backfield with a different offensive coordinator. That was it felt 2129 01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,880 Speaker 3: like a large part of their the season last year 2130 01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:49,440 Speaker 3: was the checkdown m M I can't. I cannot imagine 2131 01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,800 Speaker 3: the Chargers are not a playoff team if they If 2132 01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,560 Speaker 3: they're not, I mean not over five hundred. If they're not, 2133 01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:57,920 Speaker 3: they're obviously I mean everyone's gone. 2134 01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:01,560 Speaker 2: Oh well, we almost thought they'd be gone after that 2135 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:03,800 Speaker 2: catastrophic playoff collapse. 2136 01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about that, right, twenty seven points? Yeah, 2137 01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,200 Speaker 3: I mean Look, the Division two is not great outside 2138 01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,280 Speaker 3: of Kansas City, so they should get some division wins 2139 01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:17,280 Speaker 3: as well. They're gonna be fine, I think. 2140 01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:19,760 Speaker 2: All right. On the other side, a few more NFL 2141 01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:21,600 Speaker 2: questions I have for this man because I don't get 2142 01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:23,320 Speaker 2: a lot of time with him. You know, It's like 2143 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,360 Speaker 2: I got the treat Oh, guess who's gonna hang out 2144 01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:27,880 Speaker 2: with you on Saturday. Jeff's back. 2145 01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:30,640 Speaker 3: I'm in. I could do it. Ask you a couple 2146 01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:32,760 Speaker 3: of weeks it it's been on scheduling. 2147 01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:34,960 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm gonna take full advantage. More coming up. 2148 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:36,880 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday. 2149 01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:41,960 Speaker 8: Two to one, cracked high in the air deep center 2150 01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:45,440 Speaker 8: field or tag onto the wall, that's gonna spraint its 2151 01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:46,200 Speaker 8: wings and. 2152 01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:47,240 Speaker 2: Fly out of here. 2153 01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:52,600 Speaker 8: Three run home run by medals a number forty one 2154 01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:55,520 Speaker 8: of the year. Oh one of the fly ball to 2155 01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:59,600 Speaker 8: deep bright center field. Back there forrest wall. So is 2156 01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:02,560 Speaker 8: Kevin Polar and Kevin has it at the warning track 2157 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:07,080 Speaker 8: and it's a scoreless brain by Nikki Lopez. And it's 2158 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:10,200 Speaker 8: a twenty one to three victory for the Braves over 2159 01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:10,760 Speaker 8: the Mets. 2160 01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's six point eighty the fan the Braves Radio 2161 01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:18,400 Speaker 2: network as the Braves just humiliated the Mets today by 2162 01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:23,400 Speaker 2: the football score of twenty one to three. It's also 2163 01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,120 Speaker 2: our Progressive Play of the Day, brought to you by 2164 01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,680 Speaker 2: Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. 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Brandon, are you still hanging on to 2174 01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:02,960 Speaker 2: hope that the podres can still make a run into 2175 01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,120 Speaker 2: the postseason or have you? Are you waving the white flag? 2176 01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:06,600 Speaker 3: Is it over? 2177 01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,720 Speaker 2: Not waving the white flag because they're not mathematically eliminated, 2178 01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:12,080 Speaker 2: that's true, but you pulled out in the pocket. Yeah, 2179 01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:16,080 Speaker 2: it's getting there. I've you know, pulled the handkerchief. I mean, 2180 01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:18,680 Speaker 2: when you think about it, they've had one am I right, 2181 01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:21,200 Speaker 2: one or two three game winning streaks this year. I 2182 01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,720 Speaker 2: think they've had two. They won ten to five last night. 2183 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:25,960 Speaker 2: They're gonna lose four to one today. Probably. They haven't 2184 01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,400 Speaker 2: had a four game winning streak the entire year. That's 2185 01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:35,120 Speaker 2: just bipolar team, unbelievable. Well, Jeff Schwartz, Wow, this NFL 2186 01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:42,760 Speaker 2: season is creeping up on us right now. When I 2187 01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:47,160 Speaker 2: think about where the NFL is and the growth of 2188 01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:55,400 Speaker 2: this league that seems to have no limits none, is 2189 01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:56,120 Speaker 2: that a good thing? 2190 01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:56,440 Speaker 3: I mean? 2191 01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,920 Speaker 2: Is I mean we talk about we talked about earlier 2192 01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:02,560 Speaker 2: at the start of the show about the collapse of 2193 01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,720 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve and really that hinged on a level 2194 01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:13,880 Speaker 2: of arrogance that came from university presidents commissioners turning down 2195 01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:19,560 Speaker 2: things that obviously would have allowed the conference to survive, 2196 01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:24,560 Speaker 2: unlike where it is right now. Is there anything stopping 2197 01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:30,880 Speaker 2: the NFL, any potential roadblock looking forward to this league 2198 01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,760 Speaker 2: five years, ten years from now, anything? 2199 01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:37,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that I oh, time is back. 2200 01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:38,360 Speaker 3: I don't think it's to be a problem, but I 2201 01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:42,600 Speaker 3: think that going to more of a streaming package could 2202 01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,560 Speaker 3: be a concern for folks who don't have that setup. 2203 01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:49,360 Speaker 3: It's funny. My dad texted me thirty minutes ago he 2204 01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,280 Speaker 3: has av guy come to his house and kind of 2205 01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:55,760 Speaker 3: rework things to get YouTube TV for Sunday ticket this season, 2206 01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,760 Speaker 3: because that's YouTube TV for Sunday Ticket this season. 2207 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:01,960 Speaker 2: By the way, I turned off direct TV in our 2208 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,360 Speaker 2: house today. Well, so I'm gonna have direct TV. I 2209 01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:08,240 Speaker 2: decided started and it's gone. 2210 01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,680 Speaker 3: I decided I'm gonna keep direct TV for a little 2211 01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna call them and and get im out price lowered. 2212 01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:18,200 Speaker 3: I'm keeping it because I just like having the channels, 2213 01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:21,800 Speaker 3: and I like having a remote like and and it's 2214 01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,120 Speaker 3: also the stream they were. There's a lot of complaints 2215 01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:29,760 Speaker 3: recently because YouTube TV is very far. It's sixty seconds behind. Yeah, 2216 01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:34,040 Speaker 3: it's sixty things behind everything else. So I'm gonna keep 2217 01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:35,600 Speaker 3: it for a little bit until I get this whole 2218 01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:37,560 Speaker 3: thing to figure out. But that could be the downfall. 2219 01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:42,960 Speaker 3: But I think, like we're all, we're all just just 2220 01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:49,600 Speaker 3: fanatical about watching football, and it seems unlikely that that's 2221 01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:51,480 Speaker 3: gonna change with the streaming stuff. But I mean it's 2222 01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:54,760 Speaker 3: certainly possible, I guess, but I just don't. I don't 2223 01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:56,680 Speaker 3: think we're gonna have I think we're gonna just going 2224 01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:59,800 Speaker 3: to the moon man and the NFL for as much 2225 01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:03,240 Speaker 3: as it gets. You know, it can be slow to change. 2226 02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:08,920 Speaker 3: I think actually there's a lot more change happening faster 2227 02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:11,600 Speaker 3: than we get the NFL credit for. That helps the product. 2228 02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:14,720 Speaker 2: By the way, I've asked this question of a couple 2229 02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:18,240 Speaker 2: of people. Let's say we are four games into the 2230 02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:23,280 Speaker 2: regular season and the standings in the AFC East look 2231 02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:27,520 Speaker 2: like this. You have the Bills at four and oho, 2232 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:31,920 Speaker 2: the Dolphins at three and one, the Patriots at two 2233 02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:36,080 Speaker 2: and two, and the Jets at one in three. What 2234 02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:40,280 Speaker 2: are the chances that Aaron Rodgers will publicly state his unhappiness? 2235 02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:44,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I also think there's a chance the Patriots 2236 02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:45,680 Speaker 3: are far better than we think this season. 2237 02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Well, I mean Bill O'Brien should make a difference, correct, 2238 02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:51,440 Speaker 2: I mean they had no offensive ordinarily, if. 2239 02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:53,440 Speaker 3: They're a team that I that, I really do think 2240 02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:56,000 Speaker 3: people are going to be like, oh wait, that team 2241 02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:57,200 Speaker 3: won on ten games this year. 2242 02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:03,400 Speaker 2: It's possible, possible stuff. Jeff mis Jimmy enjoy it. Gotta 2243 02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:05,880 Speaker 2: bring you back man. Keep it here, folks. This is 2244 02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:06,960 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.