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Speaker 4: So I was test driving some Tesla's the other day
Speaker 4: and everything that comes out of Silicon Valley, they're trying
Speaker 4: to get away from human beings as much as possible
Speaker 4: and have everything be online or an app. We all
Speaker 4: know that noticed and for some stuff that works, but
Speaker 4: not everything, and maybe someday all will work, but it's
Speaker 4: not there yet. And it's driven me crazy as a
Speaker 4: Tesla driver that you can't get a hold of a
Speaker 4: human being ever. It's just impossible. If you actually have
Speaker 4: a question about something, you can do all kinds of
Speaker 4: really cool things, like I can you know, I could
Speaker 4: go in and order a car the way I want
Speaker 4: it and have it delivered to my home like in
Speaker 4: a couple of days without ever talking to anybody, or
Speaker 4: everything you do online in the PaperWorks, I mean so
Speaker 4: many service appointments, all kinds of stuff that's just amazingly efficient.
Speaker 4: But like if you have a question outside of that,
Speaker 4: you can't talk to a human being.
Speaker 3: Now, well, I tell I tell you what.
Speaker 2: This is strictly apockephal tale made up from my fertile imagination.
Speaker 2: But say you had a I don't know a company
Speaker 2: series of companies that eliminated like all the HR people,
Speaker 2: and you had a portal instead, you had a website
Speaker 2: rights to click on, and the only blank in way
Speaker 2: anything ever happens is when you give up because it
Speaker 2: never worked, and you call the number and the human
Speaker 2: who is a backup to the main.
Speaker 3: System says, oh, yeah, we can take care of that.
Speaker 4: That's exactly the example, except for with the Silicon Valley crowd,
Speaker 4: including Elon and Tesla, they don't have that human backup.
Speaker 3: That doesn't exist point exactly. So that takes some balls.
Speaker 4: So if you end up in one of those things
Speaker 4: where it's not accepting your password or it says we
Speaker 4: already have that address, please, you know, create a new
Speaker 4: account or whatever, you know, just one of those things
Speaker 4: that drive you there's nobody to call.
Speaker 2: Along those lines.
Speaker 4: I booked a test drive with a couple of different
Speaker 4: Teslas because I'm thinking about getting out of mine because
Speaker 4: my behemoth son is too tall to sit in the
Speaker 4: back seat now, and I need a car that they
Speaker 4: all fit in. So I'm either going to get the
Speaker 4: X with more legroom or the cyber truck. So another
Speaker 4: one of the examples of it working well went on
Speaker 4: the app booked a demo gazillion different times, but multiple
Speaker 4: locations book demos. Show up car is there ready for
Speaker 4: me to go as soon as as I walk, as
Speaker 4: soon as I park and walk up to it, and
Speaker 4: and a salesperson just logs me in and I drive off.
Speaker 2: It's I mean it could. It's so amazing.
Speaker 5: And the only human interaction is the salesperson logging you in.
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't even have to do that if I
Speaker 4: didn't want to. But I'm interested in buying these vehicles,
Speaker 4: and nobody rides with me. You got a half hour
Speaker 4: to do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: You just go driving around because if you put all
Speaker 2: your information in there, it's really really cool.
Speaker 4: Anyway, on this particular one, he said, we can't find
Speaker 4: the key. It's The key for a Tesla is like
Speaker 4: a credit card unless you have the app. And we
Speaker 4: can't find the key, he said, I'll unlock it for you.
Speaker 4: You can go driving around, just don't get out or you'll.
Speaker 2: Be locked out.
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't need to get up. I get in
Speaker 4: the truck. Me and Henry are in the cyber truck
Speaker 4: where I'm driving around. I really love this thing. The
Speaker 4: stereo is awesome.
Speaker 2: But I'm driving around, but my seat's too far back
Speaker 2: and the steering wheels too far up.
Speaker 4: So I pull over to adjust that stuff. And it
Speaker 4: won't me drive after that for some reason, because I
Speaker 4: don't have the key and I.
Speaker 2: Didn't get out.
Speaker 3: You just like put it in part right, But and
Speaker 3: you didn't turn the car off.
Speaker 4: No, well, you don't really turn a Tesla on a
Speaker 4: right It's always on basically anyway.
Speaker 3: Also, that drained the battery.
Speaker 2: I pull over. I just my stringle whatever like that,
Speaker 2: and then I can't put it back and drive again.
Speaker 2: And uh. And We're a long way from the dealership
Speaker 2: on Interstate eighty in the Bay Area and I'm just
Speaker 2: pulled over to the side of the road. Cars drive
Speaker 2: them by that sort of thing, and U and I think, okay, well,
Speaker 2: and I knew this is going to be a problem.
Speaker 3: I got to try to call the dealership. It is impossible.
Speaker 4: I've tried this before alongside the road with a flat
Speaker 4: tire or various things.
Speaker 2: It's impossible.
Speaker 4: And I tried for twenty minutes, and I finally told Henry,
Speaker 4: I said, we're gonna get We're gonna get a lift.
Speaker 4: So I order a lift, you know, the Uber type company,
Speaker 4: only it's called Lyft. And he comes and picks me
Speaker 4: up alongside the road and they take me back to
Speaker 4: the test of dealership and they dropped me off and
Speaker 4: I said, your cyber truck is about ten miles that
Speaker 4: way along eyeside, you might want to go get it.
Speaker 4: And they looked all panicked and everything like that. I said,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't let me drive, and I couldn't call anybody.
Speaker 4: I was so freaking mad, and I thought, have a
Speaker 4: GD receptionist. How much would that cost you? One human
Speaker 4: being that can answer the phone, make a minimum wage
Speaker 4: throughout the day, elon.
Speaker 2: One freaking human being. But it's funny.
Speaker 4: The Uber driver who picked me up, and this is
Speaker 4: what made me really think about it. It's the silicon Valley
Speaker 4: myopic view of the world. The Uber driver guy, I said,
Speaker 4: I told him what happened. He said, that's the way
Speaker 4: it is with this company. I said, It's fine. You
Speaker 4: can do everything through the app.
Speaker 2: You log in your hours and you pick up your
Speaker 2: car and blah blah blah, and you get paid in
Speaker 2: your fun. But if you ever need to talk to anybody, impossible.
Speaker 2: They're no human beings anywhere. And it's so the Silicon
Speaker 2: Valley's got this view that we just flat don't need humans.
Speaker 2: You can do everything through the app. And I wish
Speaker 2: they'd recognize that we're not there yet. Maybe we bill
Speaker 2: be someday with AI that can solve more complicated problems,
Speaker 2: but we're just not And it makes me not makes
Speaker 2: me yeah, yeah, there their self regard their beliefs that
Speaker 2: they can code their way to solve anything confronting humanity.
Speaker 3: It's it's hubris.
Speaker 4: There is there is a There is a Hubris and
Speaker 4: we're smarter than the world. Thing going on with the
Speaker 4: Silicon Valley crowd. That scares me a bit.
Speaker 2: Combine that with the UH is there a name for this?
Speaker 2: We've talked about it through the years. You have somebody
Speaker 2: who already understands the system, use the system, and then
Speaker 2: they say, yep, consumers will be fine with this. You know,
Speaker 2: the guy like wrote the programming is clicking around the website. Yeh,
Speaker 2: this website is perfect. Then you was somebody who has
Speaker 2: no idea what you jump on the website and it's
Speaker 2: utterly unclear to you where to go? Where where am
Speaker 2: I supposed to click? What's what's None of these menu
Speaker 2: items are like real world terminology for what I want
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 4: Well, that's a UI problem because I know somebody who
Speaker 4: used to do that for various companies in Silicon Valle
Speaker 4: User interface and there are people that that's their job.
Speaker 4: But like the person I know who did that was
Speaker 4: such a brainiac computer nerd. I mean they didn't they
Speaker 4: didn't think about it the way normal people think. Sit
Speaker 4: down and look at an app.
Speaker 2: You know, So it's the dropdown menu, where's the drop
Speaker 2: down up there? You click on this and you bring it.
Speaker 4: I would have never known that unless you showed me,
Speaker 4: I would have never figured that out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have these companies that like assume they know
Speaker 5: the problems you're having. Like I had this issue with
Speaker 5: DoorDash recently where something went wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Other example, good luck trying to called door dash.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you go on there and you click help,
Speaker 5: and then they have a series of options of what
Speaker 5: they think might have gone wrong, and you're like, it's
Speaker 5: none of these.
Speaker 2: Oh that makes me insane. Here are the seven things
Speaker 2: that could have happened to you?
Speaker 5: No, and then they send you They send you to
Speaker 5: the frequently asked question did this help?
Speaker 3: No, it didn't help, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yick God.
Speaker 4: We had a funny video we were all enjoying the
Speaker 4: other day of Larry David screaming at Siri in his
Speaker 4: car because they couldn't book a restaurant or something like that.
Speaker 4: But I have I have actually done that many times
Speaker 4: when they when the nice computer voice lady says to you,
Speaker 4: are you satisfied with your experience?
Speaker 3: Not having satisfied my experience you got?
Speaker 2: It makes you so mad?
Speaker 3: You know, I got an example, but I don't.
Speaker 2: I find myself not even wanting to bring it up
Speaker 2: because I feel the texhaustion flood over me. And that's
Speaker 2: some you know, fairly complicated music recording software that I use.
Speaker 2: There's something you know, I'm trying to figure out how
Speaker 2: to do and if you even Google like our search.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I don't Google anymore. They're evil.
Speaker 2: If you do a search on this software, this problem,
Speaker 2: it'll take you to like a message board that has
Speaker 2: videos posted by anonymous yaus right, some of which are
Speaker 2: conceivably relevant to the problem, but most of which are not,
Speaker 2: And you'd have to watch every single one of them.
Speaker 2: And it's just, how do you not have some sort
Speaker 2: of in essence, a searchable manual? Why do you know?
Speaker 3: Is that not cool these days?
Speaker 2: Better to have a forum of users who may or
Speaker 2: may not have any idea what they're effing talking about.
Speaker 4: Yes, blood, Now, I suppose any of these Silicon Valley
Speaker 4: geniuses would say to me, there's a reason where the
Speaker 4: seven most valuable companies in the world.
Speaker 2: We know what we're doing. Trust us. But god, dang it, Oh,
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine you can't call a human being at
Speaker 4: the location. I mean, it's just it's not physically possible.
Speaker 3: That's nuts, isn't it. That's exhausting.
Speaker 2: I think you went above and beyond the call of
Speaker 2: duty going back to the dealership and telling them what happened,
Speaker 2: although you know you don't want to be have the
Speaker 2: red and Blue lights in front of your house.
Speaker 3: Just take a left home, leave there underrest for grand
Speaker 3: theft auto mccuay. Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 2: Well, the car I drove was still at the dealership,
Speaker 2: so I had because I showed up in a car,
Speaker 2: So I want.
Speaker 4: To go back to get my car. Otherwise, yeah, I
Speaker 4: would have just gone home. This is your problem. Sounds
Speaker 4: like a you problem to me.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, Elon, have one of your many children.
Speaker 3: Man the Swiss board. Huh, get a little shot?
Speaker 2: Labor gone? Why not?
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Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what it is. It's representative Hank Johnson,
Speaker 4: Democrat in Georgia.
Speaker 2: Right, have have you listened already?
Speaker 3: I have? He introduces it himself. Okay, cool, let's just
Speaker 3: roll with them.
Speaker 6: I hate to hurt you ears and everything, but I'm
Speaker 6: just learning to play guitar and so I'm compelled with
Speaker 6: a new guitar and with some thoughts about that old song.
Speaker 6: Hey Joe, you know to give some commentary on where.
Speaker 2: We are now.
Speaker 6: And if y'all don't mind, I'm gonna just strum a
Speaker 6: little bit. Hey trump, where you're going with that gun
Speaker 6: in your hand?
Speaker 2: Hey trop.
Speaker 3: Where you're going with that gun in your hand?
Speaker 2: Have you considered tuning your guitar?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, miss the part of the lessonry
Speaker 3: I've under to the mfor. Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too bad. I have to tell my son
Speaker 2: that all the time.
Speaker 4: He's kind of trying to learn how to play guitars
Speaker 4: like you, because you know, if you don't know, if
Speaker 4: you're completely new to music, you don't know it's in
Speaker 4: tune or notut intude, but you're not gonna get anywhere.
Speaker 2: If you're instrument that's completely out to, you'll get nowhere.
Speaker 2: Uh So I like to say it no satisfaction from it.
Speaker 2: I liked to singing. I just tuned the guitar.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: This other thing is somehow the WNBA, the women's NBA,
Speaker 4: has turned into the men's NBA of the early nineties,
Speaker 4: when people would beat the crap out of each other
Speaker 4: and it was just part of the sport. And there
Speaker 4: were certain things that I enjoyed about it, and then
Speaker 4: certain things I didn't enjoy about it because it's a
Speaker 4: skill game and sometimes it would eliminate the ability for
Speaker 4: people to enjoy their skills.
Speaker 1: But this is.
Speaker 4: One of Caitlyn Clark's teammates who has decided she's the
Speaker 4: enforcer on the team, trying to protect their star player.
Speaker 4: We're talking about this last week when Caitlyn Clark got
Speaker 4: beat around pretty good and I was saying, you gotta
Speaker 4: you can't do that. It's like, whether it's Michael Jordan
Speaker 4: or Wayne Gretzky, if your star player's getting pushed around,
Speaker 4: you got to go beat the hell out of those
Speaker 4: people and say no, you don't get to touch your
Speaker 4: star It's happened in a bunch of different sports anyway.
Speaker 2: So this is the girl that's taken on that duty.
Speaker 4: And you're not going to be able to see the
Speaker 4: videos obviously listening to this, but underneath her commentary or
Speaker 4: videos for like girl coming down the lane and she
Speaker 4: puts them in a full headlock and takes them to
Speaker 4: the floor, bashing their head into the floor. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's pretty violent.
Speaker 2: She's also very attractive, which is an interesting thing to
Speaker 2: fit in with this whole story.
Speaker 7: But here she is, Hello everyone, I'm Sophie Cunningham. I
Speaker 7: don't start trouble but I'm never afraid of it. You
Speaker 7: can provoke anyone, but there's one person you don't touch,
Speaker 7: Caitlyn Clark, even if it comes to a fight. I'm
Speaker 7: not worried about anyone pulling my hair. Why because I
Speaker 7: know they don't dare and they don't have what it takes.
Speaker 7: You all saw that game the Sun. We're pulling cheap
Speaker 7: tricks all night to slow Caitlin's rhythm, especially Jace Sheldon
Speaker 7: with two blatant slaps of the face, and the refs
Speaker 7: they just stood there like statues. You think I let
Speaker 7: that slide When I took Sheldon down. Some called me impulsive,
Speaker 7: Some said I pulled her hair, But have you ever
Speaker 7: thought about why I acted without hesitation?
Speaker 3: Yet wasn't a f of her fighting back.
Speaker 7: First, I'm a black belt in karate, trained in combat
Speaker 7: since I was a kid and I played college football.
Speaker 7: You want to come at me, go ahead, but you
Speaker 7: better check with your bones first. Second, I made a
Speaker 7: promise to my entire team and even the whole league,
Speaker 7: as long as Caitlyn's on the court, I've got her back. Third,
Speaker 7: I know my limits. I'm not just fighting. I use
Speaker 7: precise grappling techniques. To lock an opponent's arm, leaving them
Speaker 7: no chance to escalate. I'm not here to punish anyone.
Speaker 7: I'm here to send a message to the entire league.
Speaker 3: Caitlyn isn't fighting alone. She's got me behind her. If
Speaker 3: you want to come at me, check with your bones.
Speaker 3: For jeez, that's a pretty good line.
Speaker 2: That is a pretty good line. I don't know why
Speaker 2: everything has to have background music these days, but that
Speaker 2: was a fine screen.
Speaker 3: That was an oddly like well composed.
Speaker 2: It was an essay.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Also, she's got that thing that people who are really
Speaker 2: okay with fighting have where they're very calm about it.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is not for whatever reason. And I've known
Speaker 4: people that are like to fight guy or likes to
Speaker 4: fight woman. They it it affects them differently than it
Speaker 4: affects normal people.
Speaker 3: It's just a thing. Oh we're gonna fight now, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's go.
Speaker 2: Where's the Restipers are like, holy crap, this is the
Speaker 2: biggest moment of my life. They're just okay, I guess
Speaker 2: it's fighting time. She's one of those people. And I
Speaker 2: did the w NBA see this coming a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, that they were gonna become the nineties NBA.
Speaker 2: It's all about Oh boy, there'll be lots of fighting
Speaker 2: to night.
Speaker 3: Let's tune in. The ratings are getting big.
Speaker 4: For any time two teams play that have a you know,
Speaker 4: you know they're gonna fight like it's you know, Piston
Speaker 4: Celtics of nineteen ninety or something.
Speaker 2: I'm just I can't be the only one who's completely
Speaker 2: struck by the nature of her her speech there. I mean,
Speaker 2: because I'm familiar with the eighties nineties NBA. I was
Speaker 2: a huge fan at the time, and and a guy
Speaker 2: would say something like he wants to start some trouble,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna end it. You come up against me and
Speaker 2: MJ you're gonna You're gonna know what time it is, right,
Speaker 2: she is like, I am trained in a variety of
Speaker 2: martial arts.
Speaker 3: I have a black belt certification.
Speaker 2: I've been involved in grappling since I was a young kid,
Speaker 2: and certainly I will use grappling techniques to neutralize their
Speaker 2: arms and pin them against them and avoid any sort
Speaker 2: of escalation if it comes time to porptrate acts of violence.
Speaker 3: It's oddly clinical, except for.
Speaker 2: That one line check with your bones for.
Speaker 3: Oh that was the best part, you know, we kind
Speaker 3: of downplayed how hot this check is. Yeah, I hadn't
Speaker 3: seen her. No, She's like, uh, I mean she's runway
Speaker 3: model material.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so give me the name again.
Speaker 3: Sophie Cunningham Craig sent it to us yesterday.
Speaker 2: He's the one that where I got this clip O
Speaker 2: a D from our text. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's an interesting aspect of the whole thing. Also,
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is is this going to
Speaker 4: end up being like the Bread and Butter for the WNB,
Speaker 4: where they just everybody figures out. Boy, if you want
Speaker 4: to put butts in the seats and have big ratings,
Speaker 4: we got to have a couple of fights, like it's.
Speaker 2: Holy cow, cutie. Yeah you want to you want any
Speaker 2: grappling practice, like it's roller derby or hockey or something.
Speaker 2: Just people are here for fights. We gotta have some fights. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'll put up a fight for a little while and
Speaker 3: then you can just you know, whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Ask your bones first. My bones are fine with it,
Speaker 2: trust me. They're enthused.
Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show, The
Speaker 1: arm Strong and Getdy Show.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the fourteenth Amendment and the question of
Speaker 2: birthright citizenship, which is a hot conversational topic these days
Speaker 2: and actually really interesting. And I mentioned that the fourteenth
Speaker 2: Amendment is actually five paragraphs long and it would take
Speaker 2: a long time to read to you. The first part
Speaker 2: is about all persons born or naturalized, YadA, YadA, YadA,
Speaker 2: the birthright thing. Second part is representatives shall be apportioned
Speaker 2: among the several states according to their respective numbers, blah blahlah.
Speaker 2: But the next about streaming contracts, which is really weird,
Speaker 2: right exactly, Yep, you got to be able to cancel them.
Speaker 2: Third one is about senators and congress people who may
Speaker 2: or may not have been involved in an insurrection or rebellion.
Speaker 2: Remember that one came up, you know, after January sixth,
Speaker 2: and a couple more paragraphs nobody knows, but I was
Speaker 2: looking at the amendments, and it would appear that in
Speaker 2: a close race, the shortest amendment is the eighth Amendment.
Speaker 2: Excessive bails shall not be required, nor excessive finds imposed,
Speaker 2: nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted cruel or unusual cruel
Speaker 2: and on you and unusual right. And you know my theory,
Speaker 2: they can be one of the other cruel and unusual. Right,
Speaker 2: If it's merely cruel, but you do it a lot,
Speaker 2: that's fine. And if you know, a beating from a
Speaker 2: clown is certainly unusual, but it's no more cruel than
Speaker 2: any other sort of beating, fair game. Clown beatings would
Speaker 2: be approved in the court of Joe Getty's justice. So
Speaker 2: you're on somebody over with a car. People get hit
Speaker 2: by cars all the time. There's nothing unusual about that.
Speaker 2: Right now, It's cruel, unspeakably cruel, but not unusual. I
Speaker 2: think we're missing a loophole here, folks. But I think
Speaker 2: everybody knows the Oh my god, I almost said one
Speaker 2: of the stupidest things as things I've ever said. I
Speaker 2: think everybody knows what's in the Bill of Rights. No,
Speaker 2: obviously most people don't. You should, but you don't, which
Speaker 2: is why you end up quartering troops, you jackasses.
Speaker 3: Study history.
Speaker 4: I just learned the other day James Madison was really
Speaker 4: against a Bill of Rights, really thought it was a terrible,
Speaker 4: terrible idea. But then when the vaulte went against him,
Speaker 4: he like, we should do more often now decided Okay,
Speaker 4: well that's been decided. Now I'm going to argue what
Speaker 4: they ought to be because it's going to happen, even
Speaker 4: though I didn't want it to happen in the first place.
Speaker 2: And indeed he brought it to the floor of the
Speaker 2: House immediately because he said he would.
Speaker 4: The reason he didn't like the Bill Wrights is he
Speaker 4: is afraid that now that makes it seem like, outside
Speaker 4: of these ten things, everything else the government.
Speaker 2: Can do, and that was his concern. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think history is proved that he was wrong as a
Speaker 2: is real statesman.
Speaker 3: And yeah, oh yeah, tiny.
Speaker 2: Tiny lady. And I've never seen a smaller founding father.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, not a long hitter, James Madison.
Speaker 2: So everybody knows freedom of religion, press expression, the first
Speaker 2: right to bear arms, quartering of soldiers, that's the third.
Speaker 2: I don't have to work, so man, when I get home,
Speaker 2: I got some news for those guys. Get out of
Speaker 2: my house.
Speaker 3: Can I get my stuff?
Speaker 2: At least I'll ship it to you, Search and seizure,
Speaker 2: trial and punishment, compensation for takings.
Speaker 3: That's the fifth Amendment.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows the part about how you don't have to
Speaker 2: testify against yourself, but that's actually one of many things
Speaker 2: mentioned in the Fifth Amendment. I didn't know that I
Speaker 2: should read that over. I'd forgotten it. It's one of
Speaker 2: those things I had to memorize it at one point.
Speaker 2: But here's the entirety of the Fifth Amendment. I thought
Speaker 2: this was interesting. No person shall be held to answer
Speaker 2: for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a
Speaker 2: presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases
Speaker 2: arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia,
Speaker 2: when in actual service in time of war public danger.
Speaker 2: Nor shall any person be subject, for the same offense
Speaker 2: to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb
Speaker 2: double jeopardy, straight out of the Fifth Amendment. Nor shall
Speaker 2: be compelled, in any criminal case, to be a witness
Speaker 2: against himself. That's the wheel of fortune, after the jeopardy portion.
Speaker 2: It's the wheel of fortune portion correct. Nor be deprived
Speaker 2: of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
Speaker 2: That's where that very famous phrase let comes from due process.
Speaker 2: Nor shall private property be taken for public use without
Speaker 2: just compensation. Which there's a lot to the fifth of
Speaker 2: men we aren't always good at. Where's the thing where
Speaker 2: you can't testify against your husband or wife or you
Speaker 2: don't have to is that in the Bill of right
Speaker 2: No somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just in case, Lawn. I wish I knew.
Speaker 2: But why can't you testify against your husband or wife?
Speaker 2: There are no other relationships like that you can justify?
Speaker 2: Oh you can, you can, but you can't be required.
Speaker 2: But how come you in some situation? But you can
Speaker 2: be required to testify against your kids or your kids
Speaker 2: against you, but not husband and wife. She's talking to
Speaker 2: my law student daughter about this the other day, and
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly because you and Judy's big Ponzi
Speaker 2: scheme and you're worried about.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I tell you what. The second the cops
Speaker 3: are here, I go states she was running it.
Speaker 2: She made me do it right under the bus, and Jody, honey,
Speaker 2: I hope you're comfortable under there.
Speaker 3: Oh let's see.
Speaker 2: So I think the longest of the amendments I can
Speaker 2: find is probably the twelfth about choosing the president vice president.
Speaker 2: They had to clarify how that was going to work.
Speaker 2: But man, they get long. The fourteenth is long, five
Speaker 2: paragraphs long. Liquor abolished, bastardsoo, what number is that you suck?
Speaker 3: That's the eighteenth And did you say it is longer.
Speaker 2: Is it short? No more booze parties? Jackasses, that's what
Speaker 2: that one's called. Yeah, it's long and boring, just like
Speaker 2: a world without alcohol. Another are three short ish? And
Speaker 2: then how soon after that one is the one that
Speaker 2: says parties back on the twenty first, God bless it.
Speaker 3: Actually the eighteenth was.
Speaker 2: Ratified in nineteen nineteen and it was repealed in nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty three.
Speaker 3: Wow, I always forget how long that period was.
Speaker 2: Of no favorite. Some of my favorite writings by H. L.
Speaker 2: Menken were written during Prohibition. What he would describe how
Speaker 2: congress people and senators Washington, DC, you could get a
Speaker 2: drink practically as easy as you can right now. It
Speaker 2: was everywhere because the senators were never going to hold
Speaker 2: themselves to the same standards. They were just doing it
Speaker 2: because it was politically popular. It was a popular movement
Speaker 2: among women when women first got the right to vote,
Speaker 2: because so many of their husbands would come home hammered
Speaker 2: drunk and either be useless or violent, or or have
Speaker 2: spent all the money at the bar. Your people, Katie
Speaker 2: to go a wear our party.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because of what your people put us through every
Speaker 5: day by being drunk a holes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if your people weren't all day long, maybe
Speaker 3: I wouldn't need a drink.
Speaker 5: Well, if you would do some things around the house,
Speaker 5: maybe we.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't all the time. Oh my god, the bottle, where's
Speaker 3: the bottle?
Speaker 2: I think that was all right. Boardwalk Empire. If you
Speaker 2: never watched that series with Steve Buscemi, really great portrayal
Speaker 2: of the those years. Nineteenth Amendment women's suffrages I was
Speaker 2: ratified in nineteen twenty. Man need a duo over on
Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, so again, women's voting and prohibition came
Speaker 2: up at the same time, although admittedly liquor was abolished
Speaker 2: just before the year before women got the right to vote.
Speaker 5: One of my favorite places near the Radio Ranch in
Speaker 5: San Francisco was an old prohibition bar, and the owner
Speaker 5: took us down into their storage room one day and
Speaker 5: all of the old tunnel doors were all welded shut
Speaker 5: because they used to move alcohol underneath San Francisco in
Speaker 5: this tunnel system.
Speaker 2: But it was really cool. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite liquor stores was named twenty second
Speaker 2: Amendment Liquors, which I was always I'm sorry not to
Speaker 2: twenty forty first Amendment. Yeah, yeah, twenty second is presidential
Speaker 2: term limits. That'd just be a weird name. I went
Speaker 2: to a baron named after term limits.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: By the way, ladies, keep in mind nineteenth Amendment. We
Speaker 2: gave you the right, we can take it away. And yes,
Speaker 2: it's on a as a needed basis. Let's see, can
Speaker 2: anybody name the last amendment? I'll tell you that it's
Speaker 2: the twenty seventh, So anybody remember what it is? Limiting
Speaker 2: congressional pay increases, ratified nineteen ninety two. Essentially, you don't
Speaker 2: get a raise until another round of elections is held.
Speaker 2: You can vote one in, but you don't get it.
Speaker 4: You know, our friend Tim thinks there should be more
Speaker 4: amendments that that we or have been. We've made it
Speaker 4: too difficult. It seemed like it's acted like it's just
Speaker 4: too big a crazy a deal to ever talk about amendments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 2: I mean, you spend two hundred and fifth years doing something,
Speaker 2: you gotta get better at it.
Speaker 3: Figure out Oh we forgot this.
Speaker 2: I would like to see some stuff clarified, like the
Speaker 2: fourteenth Amendment that the birthrate citizenship. All I want is
Speaker 2: added on if the parents have legal status in the
Speaker 2: United States. You can't just sneak in.
Speaker 3: All I know.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you read that. When I get home there
Speaker 2: are some soldiers sleeping soundly in my bed, who are
Speaker 2: gonna You're not gonna be happy to hear what I
Speaker 2: now know.
Speaker 3: I will courder you no longer.
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Speaker 2: words of a British daredevil as he attempted to base
Speaker 2: jump off a twenty nine story building in Thailand. His
Speaker 2: shoot did not open, he went splat on the cement,
Speaker 2: and he is no more.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: My question was, and I think this is an interesting one.
Speaker 2: Do human beings have a limited amount of empathy individual
Speaker 2: human beings? Because when I hear a story like that,
Speaker 2: I have no feeling whatsoever, like of sadness or you're
Speaker 2: dead inside, because i feel like I've only got so
Speaker 2: much empathy and I'm gonna save it for those soldiers
Speaker 2: that died sleeping in their barracks. And Jordan the other
Speaker 2: day and their families, and you know a million other
Speaker 2: examples you can come across every single day in the
Speaker 2: news or maybe even your own personal life. But somebody
Speaker 2: who decides to be a daredevil, and the whole point
Speaker 2: of being a daredevil is sometimes it doesn't work. Otherwise
Speaker 2: you're not a dared devil. You're I mean, it's as
Speaker 2: similar to sitting in an office chair every day. I mean,
Speaker 2: if there's no risk, there's no excitement to it, and
Speaker 2: if now and then it doesn't go right, I just
Speaker 2: I feel nothing for that person. It's a there's death
Speaker 2: defying stunt and death said you know today I went
Speaker 2: or would you say, Look, there's no limit on empathy.
Speaker 2: You can be empathetic toward the you know, the parents
Speaker 2: of the child who was abducted, or those people who
Speaker 2: died in Jordan, and this guy who got squashed because
Speaker 2: he has people who love him also. Which is it, Katie?
Speaker 3: Why are you putting me on the spot to.
Speaker 2: Make you uncomfortable? Very good?
Speaker 3: I think, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, what do you feel when you hear the guy died? Well,
Speaker 2: no part of me is with you.
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, Well, if you hadn't to jumped off
Speaker 5: the building, you wouldn't be dead, correct, right, So obviously
Speaker 5: my heart goes out more to those people where it's
Speaker 5: an uncontrollable situation. But then again, of course I think
Speaker 5: about this guy's family too, and I kind of you
Speaker 5: know that sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I don't. I don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of empathy for him. I don't have antipathy though.
Speaker 2: I'm not like to the guy and thinking, yes, what
Speaker 2: you get? No, no, no, I don't have that at all.
Speaker 2: I just got nothing. I have no feeling whatsoever for it. Huh.
Speaker 2: Sometimes work didn't work. This time he struck a bargain
Speaker 2: he was comfortable with. He had a life I'll bet
Speaker 2: he enjoyed very much, and an all an ever present
Speaker 2: possibility came true. Fair deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think it's a big scale of people's emotions too,
Speaker 5: because I mean there'll be so many times where I'll
Speaker 5: see a video and somebody.
Speaker 3: Will be like, oh, I'm crying.
Speaker 2: Why is there?
Speaker 7: We go?
Speaker 5: My phone won't silence, so there we go, Sorry about that.
Speaker 5: Or somebody will be like, oh, I'm watching this and
Speaker 5: I'm crying and I'm going, why why are you? What
Speaker 5: is what about this is making you cry, it'll be
Speaker 5: some harp touching thing.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think it's a different range and emotion for people.
Speaker 3: Hmm, somebody might be that inaction. Maybe you're dead inside
Speaker 3: just like Jack.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, more likely I was trying to
Speaker 2: figure out if I'm a bad person. But as Joey says,
Speaker 2: there are plenty of examples of why you're a bad person.
Speaker 2: You don't need to look to this one.
Speaker 3: Again. We could hold another staff vote if you'd like.
Speaker 2: But I'd like to be in on that vote.
Speaker 3: Another staff vote, everyone say I I any.
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: No, I think I admire a guy like that on
Speaker 2: one level, but no, I'm not going to pretend to
Speaker 2: be heartbroken. He lived an exciting, wild short short as
Speaker 2: it turns out, was he married. It doesn't say I
Speaker 2: doubt it. He's like in his I think he's twenty
Speaker 2: nine or something.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say that would be that's I
Speaker 5: dated a daredevil who used to love to do things
Speaker 5: that would end up in injury, and it was the
Speaker 5: most frustrating relationship I've ever been in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bet I don't know so anyway, So you've
Speaker 2: got that, do you feel anything for that, and then
Speaker 2: this one came across this yesterday, and I'll just tell
Speaker 2: you that our friend Tim sand Online responded to this
Speaker 2: with I guess I must be dead inside. Then, oh,
Speaker 2: a phrase that several of us have already used about
Speaker 2: this story.
Speaker 3: Here's what it was.
Speaker 2: Somebody tweeted out the picture of Travis Kelcey kissing Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift when they met on the football field after the game,
Speaker 2: and he said, hey, sweetie, and she walks up and
Speaker 2: kisses him, and I thought it was cute. But anyway,
Speaker 2: here is the tweet. I love this photo because it
Speaker 2: invokes primal reactions in people. They are the couple everyone
Speaker 2: wishes they were in high school. They represent the summon
Speaker 2: of popularity and success. Those who fall short this ideal
Speaker 2: cannot help but feel the sting of envy, a mirror
Speaker 2: into your soul. And Tim said I must feel dead
Speaker 2: inside then, because I feel nothing about this. I thought
Speaker 2: it was cute. I thought, oh, two young people in love.
Speaker 2: We should leave them alone. When I saw it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm trying to process that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So in Syria, I reacted badly to it because
Speaker 2: I'm jealous of them from my high school inadequacy and
Speaker 2: my phone.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: No, he's saying you like it because they portray what
Speaker 3: you wanted you wanted to be.
Speaker 2: See. I don't know if I buy this or not,
Speaker 2: although I think you're lying if you didn't. If you
Speaker 2: if you say I want to be the high school
Speaker 2: football star or home coming queen or in love or popular, really,
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. I mean I was not
Speaker 2: envious of those people, Like I didn't walk around in this,
Speaker 2: But I'd be lying, wouldn't if I said I really
Speaker 2: don't want to be that.
Speaker 3: No, I legitimately wanted nothing to do with that in
Speaker 3: high school. I think I did not show me to
Speaker 3: hear that I.
Speaker 2: Did too, But I think it was it was some
Speaker 2: sort of protection mechanism for my psyche or something. It
Speaker 2: seems weird to like, you don't want to be popular
Speaker 2: or attractive and in love. Who doesn't want to be popular,
Speaker 2: attractive and in love? Yeah, I'm just and I don't
Speaker 2: want to be rejected premise out of hand guy, because
Speaker 2: I haven't thought about this.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm soft
Speaker 3: and thoughtful and have the heart of a poet.
Speaker 7: What But.
Speaker 3: When today, when I see Michael.
Speaker 2: Michael, what, I'll come in there and slap you silly
Speaker 2: if you don't admit I have the heart of a poet, Michael.
Speaker 2: But if I see like an old couple holding hands
Speaker 2: and I think that's really sweet, it's simple. Other you
Speaker 2: secretly want to be elderly?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just I don't know if I buy it.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 5: I get way more of a reaction out of an
Speaker 5: elderly couple than a younger couple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of young hot people are in love.
Speaker 2: I don't. Again, I don't have antipathy for them, mad
Speaker 2: at them for that, but I don't particularly you.
Speaker 3: Two hotties go off to get a room.
Speaker 2: So I guess I got both going at the same
Speaker 2: time in that. Like when they when they put the
Speaker 2: camera on Taylor and she's jumping up and down in
Speaker 2: a hugging Patrick Mahomes's wife, I think, Okay, you're young,
Speaker 2: you're beautiful, you're unbelievably rich and famous. Of course you're happy.
Speaker 2: I mean, it disgusts me on many levels. But on
Speaker 2: the other hand, to say I don't want to be young, rich,
Speaker 2: attractive and admired would be who am I trying to kid?
Speaker 2: Of course everybody wants that, don't they. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just questioning whether that was any part
Speaker 2: of my reaction to the two of them smooching at midfield.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that has anything to do with the other,
Speaker 3: I agree. I don't think it was that deep. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I wish I were that deep. I just thought, oh,
Speaker 3: that's cute. I love love. I'm pro love. I hope
Speaker 3: those two kids are happy.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're uh okay with not having much of
Speaker 2: a reaction to a guy going splat on the pavement
Speaker 2: if it was his choice, and not much of a
Speaker 2: reaction to the people kissing at the fifty yard line. Okay, correct.
Speaker 2: I'm not dead inside. I'm just mostly numb. It's like
Speaker 2: two hours after a dental aplant. My lips sagging and
Speaker 2: I'm getting spit all over my chin. But I can
Speaker 2: feel a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, still can't drink out of a straw.
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