1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: by searching apps car. Hey, what up, Doug Gottlieb Show, 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. It's a Friday, It's a football Friday. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: We got college football games upcoming this weekend. You're welcome. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Remind you a little backpedal. Plus, we're gonna hear from 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Ty Hildebrand, TI's co host of The Verbal Verbal, This 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: solid verbal podcast, really good podcast you can pick up 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: with the iHeart Podcast Network. That's all upcoming this hour. 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: Plus we get the press and maybe talk a little 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: about the games this weekend. There's all these things happening simultaneously, 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: and it feels a little bit like Jerry Jones is 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: trying to do a presidential weave. And by weave, I 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: don't mean your hair. I mean it's the it's the 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, uh President Trump. How he goes, He kind 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: of winds on the road, but generally brings it back 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: into some direction. Some point at the end of it. 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: You know, Jerry's got so many different little things going 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: the docuseries that that's playing out right now you can watch. 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: And then you got the Michael Parsons thing. You have 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: Ryan Schottenheimer as a coach, who I mean, you know, 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't think very many people thought was gonna be 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Cowboys, especially when you had 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl and done a pretty 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: good job when he's there, seemed to be tied to 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: hip to Dak Prescott. But nonetheless he did it right. 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: He fired him, and uh feels like there was some 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: really kind of intentional moves that may turn out well, 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: may turn out poorly, but you have you have, you 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: have the story that that Jerry Jones tells everybody Micah 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Parsons was the deal they agreed to that the agent 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: knixed was to make him the high paid non quarterback 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: in the league. And yet it hasn't been signed. And 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: yet you know they're asking for like four first round picks. 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: I've told you it just he's gonna be a Cowboy. 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: And as much as you could say, well, he's going 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: on this tour to fource of I want to be 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: traded and using social media for it. Look no further 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: than Cleveland. We've talked about this with Miles Garrett, who 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: wrote an pen to letter saying goodbye to Cleveland, and 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: yet he resigns He's a Cleveland Brown. Doesn't matter, it's 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: playing the game. But the Jerry game feels different. The 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: Jerry game feels like one big dramatic pr move Or 47 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: is that too complex? Is that too conspiracy theory? Esque? 48 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Jay stud that that's what you think it is, right, 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: you think it's all calculated. 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna I'm gonna set the record straight, or 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: I need to say it's straight. Matt Moseley, the host 52 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: of the Doomsday podcast I Think He's a Fox Sports columnist, 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: was on with Dan Byer yesterday and Monzy Bonios Buyer 54 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: could back me up on this. Dan asked him about 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: the negotiation with Michaeh Parson, and Moseley said that I 56 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: think Jerry is waiting for everybody to watch all eight 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: episodes of the Netflix docu series before he signs Micah Parsons. 58 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: He said it fully tongue in cheek, but it's first 59 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: of all, it's funny, and secondly, I think there is 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: some truth into that because he keep Jerry Jones keeps 61 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: agreeing to do an interviews this week and talk about 62 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: the negotiation, and at the end of each interview, the 63 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: host is saying, now catch Jerry on his docu series 64 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: on Netflix, The Gambler and His Cowboys. It all seems 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: like a pr move to me. But Matt Mosley was 66 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: the guy with the line. I gotta give him credit. 67 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: Jay Stude, do you think that the two work hand 68 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: in hand? 69 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I had thought of it. I think 70 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: it's a thing. It's brilliant. It definitely feels like it 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: feels coordinated. He's agreeing to doing all the interviews. His 72 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: docu series is like the talk of the Internet right now. 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: It's the hot thing. So he's just feeding that monster. 74 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, Uh, what about you there, Dan Bayer, are 75 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: you you buying in defeeding the monster? Because the one 76 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: thing about talking about the docu series at the end 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: of an interview is that's the plug, right And we 78 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: have guys on all the time, and the big hope 79 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: when you have a guy on that has a plug 80 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: is he just talks about what we want to talk 81 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: about and then gets in the plug or skips the plug. 82 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: We read the plug at the end byer. Do you 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: think this is, as Moseley said, you know, all part 84 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: of Jerry's plan. 85 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: I think it's it's convenient for Jerry. I don't think 86 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: that he sought out to not give Micah Parsons the 87 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 3: deal that Parsons won it just to hype the Netflix thing, 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: the Netflix documentary, and then drag it out over to 89 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: this point where it finally debuted this week. I don't 90 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 3: think it got to that point. I think the reason 91 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: why we're hearing more from Jerry this week is obviously 92 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: because of that documentary, but also then he's talking about this, 93 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: but the whole documentary is rooted in c I may 94 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: have messed up, but in the end I was right, 95 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: and that's what That's what I think he wants us 96 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: to believe about this Micah Parsons situation is in the end, 97 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: it gets done and everything's okay. And so I think 98 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: that's where he's trying to protect his legacy in trying 99 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: to show people that in the end, it always works 100 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: out in a good way. 101 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: For Jerry Jones, well, I mean he's gonna get his player. 102 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if it works out in a good 103 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: way in terms of of how much he's gonna spend, 104 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: going to spend a lot of money, but he wouldn't 105 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money in it. 106 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: I would say that the DAK contract did not work 107 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: out well for Jerry Jones, but I think Jerry Jones 108 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: would disagree with that. I think that whatever Jerry does, 109 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: he thinks it's a great idea. I mean, in this documentary, 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 3: his dad had to talk him out of not buying 111 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: the Chargers with the help of the mafia, Like right, right, 112 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: Jimmy Hoffo's a part of this deal, and his dad 113 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: had to be like, yeah, you may not want to 114 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: get into you may not want to get involved in that. 115 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: But in the end, that's all right because guess why 116 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: Doug he owns the Dallas Cowboys the most valuable franchise 117 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: in sports. 118 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: This is true and win or lose the value. That 119 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: thing's only going up, only going up. 120 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: But did I give a spoiler out too soon? Did 121 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: I give a spoiler? I mean, because it just came 122 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: out on Tuesday. I just want to clarify this. 123 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: What episode was that? Was it episode two or three? 124 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: I think it was two because I think the rules 125 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: are in the especially in Netflix that releases the entire thing. 126 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: I think you can spoil it with Netflix. I think 127 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: you can. I mean, if you're a sports fan, you're 128 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: listening to this show, and if you're a sports fan, 129 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: you've got FOMO this week and you're watching that Cowboys documentary? Well, 130 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: how many episodes have you done, Doug? 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: I haven't had any. I've been watching The Chiefs Kingdom one? 132 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: What else else? Watching? There's something else I've been watching. 133 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: That's that's a docuseries. Uh, it was a non sports 134 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: one that I fell asleep to the other night. I 135 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: haven't watched Cowboys one. And part of the reason I've 136 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: watched Cowboys one is everybody says Cowboys one it's not 137 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: very good. 138 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: It's like infomercial, so you have no curiosity to find 139 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: out for yourself. 140 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: I just again, I struggle with multiple sports documentaries, this 141 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: docuseries same time. 142 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: This sounds familiar. I think you said that you didn't 143 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: watch Aby Gilmore two because everyone said it sucked. 144 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: Accurate accurate. I was curious was it good. 145 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: I liked it more than I think others did. Happy 146 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: Gilmour too. But I'm in the golf, and so there 147 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: were some golf things that I thought were funny and 148 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: stuff that would resonate with me. 149 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: I liked the golf. I've watched some of the golf 150 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: on Netflix. I've watched some of the tennis on Netflix. 151 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: You know. And again part of my mistake there, Jase 152 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Douo is you know, went the Red Sox one. I 153 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: felt like it was just okay. But the golf and 154 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: the tennis one and the f one one are great. 155 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: But again that's when I start crossing all my docutionaries, 156 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: like wow. So that's where I got to The Chiefs 157 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Kingdom one. I'm like, all right, I watched this thing 158 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: all the way through, Like I just watched the Super 159 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,239 Speaker 1: Bowl one, and I think I'm good. 160 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: And it's Gilmore has a Rotten Tomatoes of sixty one. 161 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: So that's like sixty percent of the consumers of that 162 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: movie liked it. Now, you could easily go in to 163 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: the rabbit hole of how dumb is this country? How 164 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: dumb are people? Yes, and that would explain it. But man, 165 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: I thought Foma would catch up to you on that one. 166 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 2: That everyone was talking. 167 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: About it really by everyone, you mean you. 168 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: No, our industry in the week after that movie came out. 169 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: Oh the No, I didn't cause I had friends that 170 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: watched it. They were like it was bad and there 171 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: was there's no bitterness over not getting a cameo. But 172 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: I literally feel like I'm the only guy I had 173 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: to get a cameo in that one. I do so, 174 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: but no, I just had no desire for it. 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Colin Coward at Urban Meyron 193 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: and they had this exchange about Jim Harbaugh and the 194 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: Michigan cheating scandal. 195 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: There was a quote I saw that you said that, 196 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 5: you know, maybe Harbor should be suspended in the NFL. 197 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: So clarify that. 198 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: Where are you right now on Michigan Harborn? 199 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: What transpired? 200 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, friends sent me that quote. I never said that. 201 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 6: That was a typical media guy saying that. No. I 202 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 6: on the podcast, we talked about the penalty and I 203 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 6: brought up I said, do you realize that when Jim 204 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 6: Tressel was fired from Ohio State, he was suspended I 205 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 6: want to say six games. He went on to be 206 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 6: suspended by the Indianapolis Colts. Now, did I say that Jim, No, 207 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 6: of course not. I didn't say that, and I actually 208 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 6: even said that, you know, I don't think it will. 209 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 6: But I threw that out there because that's a fact. 210 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 6: And it was made clear throughout the that the NFL 211 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 6: wanted to at least respect the decisions made by the NCAA. 212 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 6: So no, I neft answer your question. I never said that, 213 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 6: But that's typical someone's going to put something in the 214 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 6: headline here Callen and I are talking about that was 215 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 6: never said. 216 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: I actually you know when I I tried to scour 217 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: the internet for it, Jase, dude, did you see a 218 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: quote where he actually said that? Because I did not, 219 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: I saw the headline. I did not see the actual quote. 220 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Buyer and Montsi talked about and you were talking 221 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: about he mentioned something about an elephant in the room. 222 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: Yes, which is the point that he was saying. Was 223 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: because I think that there's this the background on this 224 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: and why Doug, you and I have gone back and 225 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: forth and on the whole Michigan thing is there are 226 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: Ohio State fans like myself that feel that the tattoo 227 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: Gate scandal that Costume Trussell his job is not as 228 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: far in the rear view mirror as it is for 229 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: every other fan base. And so I think that still 230 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: sticks out that there was severe punishments that were handed down, 231 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: and I think that Urban on the Triple Option podcast 232 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: was kind of speaking as the former head coach at 233 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: Ohio State, and then when he came on with Colin 234 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 3: I think he was being Urban Meyer, former head coach, 235 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: maybe Fox Big Noon kickoff analyst. Yes, and so that's 236 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: where I think that. And I think Urban did hit 237 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: because he did use the phrase is just mentioned. The 238 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: elephant in the room is the Jim Tressel suspension. 239 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: Okay, this is the elephant in the room comment from 240 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: that podcast. 241 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 6: There's an elephant in the room here, boys, though, that 242 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 6: no one's talking about. When Jim Trussell was fired at 243 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 6: Ohio State and he was given a suspension, Roger Goodell, 244 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 6: commissioner of the National Football League, came out and said 245 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 6: that we're going to honor that violate. They're going to 246 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 6: honor that suspension. And you remember he went to Indianapolis 247 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 6: Colts to work in the replay room or something. The 248 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 6: Colts because the respect they had for the NCAA and 249 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 6: the suspension. Do you realize suspended Jim Trussel so he 250 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 6: was unable to perform his duties for the first six 251 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 6: games of the year for the Indianapolis Colts. I think 252 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 6: we all know the answer. Yeah, any chance that Roger 253 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 6: Goodell and the NFL, of course not. 254 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: Well, there's a bunch of things to it. Okay, you 255 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: want the elephant in the room. You Ohio State people 256 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: are annoying, You're obnoxious. It just stated Ohio State was 257 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: cheating their brains out. Okay, they were using the gold 258 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: pants thing. And then there was others. You know what 259 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: was the quarterback who he played some tight end the NFL. 260 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm and forgetting Dan uh the kid from West Virginia. 261 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: He was a basketball player too, and you know he 262 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: got a brand new car. Like, what are we doing? 263 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: We're really gonna do this. Jim Trustle was directly Yes, 264 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: Jim trust was directly involved in buying players. Okay, that's 265 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: what it was, and in covering stuff up. This is 266 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh and a and stealing signs. It's not the 267 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: same thing. Stop it. It's so disingenuous. And what this 268 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: is is this is how obnoxious to the rest of 269 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: US college football rivalries are. It just is It's like, dude, really, 270 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to Jim Trestle, that's what we're 271 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: gonna do. You just won a national championship. You know, 272 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: like what what what do we what are we actually 273 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: doing here? And again it's like Iran Mago, like Jim 274 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: Trussell was, don't know he wasn't stop it. Do you 275 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: want to go back and you want to relitigate, feel free, 276 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: you'll find out Ohio State was cheating their brains out. 277 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: My dad was Ohio State alum. Everybody knew it. Okay, 278 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: what comes out as a fraction of what really happened, 279 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: but it was. It was revealed in there. There was 280 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: a lot more going on, and Trussell was directly involved, 281 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: whereas this is Jim Harbaugh and it's a football thing. 282 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: He was completely innocent. He was cleared of all this. Yeah, 283 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: you didn't have a role in this at all, Doug. 284 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: He didn't try to stop the investigation. He totally cooperated 285 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: and was no, you're but. 286 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: Again, you want to really compare, you want to compare 287 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: sins for stealing signs and buying players. Okay, fine, do that, 288 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: do that, but nobody, nobody actually real life. 289 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 5: Because because there's no value in it, because they listen, 290 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 5: here's what here's why they learned the information that here's hedn't. 291 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: Beat Ohio State. 292 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: So here's what the whole thing, Doug, this is, this 293 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: is the then you do the what about is? 294 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: This is what about it? It's always cheating. 295 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: They were always cheating you're just like all of the 296 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: other ones. Just move on from this. You know why, 297 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: because Jim Harbaugh gives us a good funny sound bite 298 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: every now and then. That's what it is. 299 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: No, here's the thing. Stealing signs when it was a 300 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: year before the actual season. There's been like, let's suspend, 301 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: then let's suspend again, then let's suspend again. Oh my gosh, Hey, 302 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,479 Speaker 1: you know what. And here's the other thing again, here's 303 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: here's Urban Meyer being disingenuous. Yes, Tressell ended up losing 304 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: his job. There's other reasons he lost his job other 305 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: than just paying players in the golden pants that they 306 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: sold off. Hey, that's that's only a fraction of it. 307 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: But Harbaugh has he'd already been punished. This is like 308 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: double triple quadruple. 309 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: Jeopardy, Like, what how is he already punished? 310 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: He was suspended, but he was three. 311 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: Games from the Big ten. 312 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah that was all that That Is that a punishment? Yes? Yes? 313 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Is that a punishment? Yeah? It's yes. Okay, three there 314 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: you go, there, there you go. And he's got a 315 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: show cause. 316 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: Right, which he was never going to come back to 317 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: college football again. That's what that's what Urban is getting 318 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: at is. So Jim Harborough's gonna leave basically Scott free 319 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: in all of this without any punishment because he's not 320 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: going to be coaching in college football. In twenty thirty eight, 321 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: Jim Tressel lost his job and never any then he was. 322 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: Then he was like a would then he get president 323 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: of Youngstown. 324 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 7: No, he's yeah. 325 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: Now he's fine. He's the lieutenant governor of Ohio and 326 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: so he's come out fine in all of this. 327 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: Of course, of course, I just like we. 328 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: I I'm sitting here. 329 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: I feel like we're really relitigating. And then you go like, well, 330 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: that's what about is No, this is all Ohio State's doing. Hey, 331 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: what about here's why Michigan didn't cooperate. Okay, I'll just 332 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: use my own monitor ocal mistake. Mike Boyden gets the 333 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: job and like a couple months in, one of his 334 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: assistant coaches got got caught skimming off the top on 335 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: on trying to recruit a player. They cooperated and still 336 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: got extra punishment. And so everyone has learned there's no 337 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: value in cooperating with an NCAA investigation. They don't take 338 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: it easy on you. If you do, they just don't. 339 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: If anything you can use Ohio State as that. I'm 340 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: sure Ohio State probably cooperated, still got hammered by it. 341 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's your The what about is? It's the 342 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, and uh 343 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: we're excited to be joined by Ty Hildebrant, who's the 344 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: co host of the Solid Verbal podcast, the largest independent 345 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: college faball podcast on the net. Uh. It continues through 346 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: the regular season, postseason, off season because you know you 347 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: just love college football. You live it, right. It's an 348 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia podcast and you can find it on the iHeart 349 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: app wherever you get your podcast. Tie first, Welcome in, 350 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. 351 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 7: Thank Doug. Good to be here. 352 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: This is such an interesting year, right, Like we've had 353 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: nil before, we've had payers players essentially get paid, but 354 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: now this is like a full true cycle where uh, 355 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: dudes are getting paid. You have the revshare, you still 356 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: have massive transfer transfer numbers. What what to you is 357 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: the biggest storyline of the season heading in? 358 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 7: The biggest storyline for me heading in is there is 359 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 7: a lot new kind of the dovetail. With what you 360 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 7: were just saying, there's a lot new. There's so programs 361 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 7: that have like over eighty new players this year. How 362 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 7: are we supposed to predict any of this when so 363 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 7: much is new And it's not just like the big 364 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 7: number at the very top of the conversation, it's there's 365 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 7: also a bunch of new quarterbacks across college football. So 366 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 7: you've got a really interesting mix of guys who have 367 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 7: been there before, veteran names that we know and love 368 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 7: and are getting paid like in some cases millions of dollars. 369 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 7: But in other cases you've got an interesting transfer or 370 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 7: in the case of Notre Dame, a recruit who has 371 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 7: been there a while just sort of waiting for his 372 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 7: opportunity to step into the limelight. So I think quarterback 373 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 7: plays where I go first. If I'm looking at the 374 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five season, I think it's going to be 375 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 7: just a really interesting mix of guys that might hit, 376 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 7: might not hit, and like, just that variability across the 377 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 7: board is going to make things pretty wild. 378 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's let's get to quarterbacks, because all the 379 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: big ones and some of the smaller ones has some 380 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: interesting ones. Let's start with Texas Manning on the back 381 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: of the jersey, his name is Art. There's a ton 382 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: of hype only he's started three games. What are your 383 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: expectations for arch Banning. 384 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 7: My expectations for arch Manning is that, as we saw 385 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 7: a little bit last season, he's definitely more mobile than 386 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 7: his predecessor, Quinnewers, and I think they're going to use that, 387 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 7: especially in some of the situations that Texas found itself 388 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 7: in a lot last season down in the red zone 389 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 7: when they're trying to get the hard yards. They couldn't 390 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 7: put Quinn on the move because that just really wasn't 391 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 7: Quinn's game. But arch can do that. So I think 392 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 7: we're going to see a lot more of that this season, 393 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 7: and that makes Texas better and more dynamic on offense. 394 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 7: Where I'm a little bit concerned is they're rebuilding their 395 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 7: entire offensive line. So what kind of protection is arch 396 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 7: Manning going to get in a very very difficult sec 397 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 7: where everybody's defensive line is loaded. What is that ground 398 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 7: game going to look like around arch Manning to give 399 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 7: him a little bit more support so it's not all 400 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 7: on his shoulder. And furthermore, bigger picture with respect to Texas, 401 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 7: it's not the easiest schedule in the end, They've got 402 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 7: some tough road spots on that schedule. What is arch 403 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 7: Manning going to do when he's on the road in 404 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 7: a big spot. A lot remains to be seen. He's 405 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 7: got the pedigree. I think we expect that there's going 406 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 7: to be a base level of pretty good competency there. 407 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 7: But I am stopping short of penciling him in as 408 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 7: like a Heisman front runner as many have, just because 409 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 7: there's a lot new on that Texas side that we 410 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 7: at least need to mention if we're being honest about 411 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 7: the Longhorns this year. 412 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Alabama, they have Ty Simpson program. Guy strikes me 413 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: as there's a little bit of rock party there where 414 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: Alabama didn't go out and lay out a ton of 415 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: money to get a Shore fire starter. Here's a guy 416 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: who's been in the program and you know they have 417 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: all the talent around him. How do you think that 418 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: plays out? 419 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 7: I really like Alabama. I really like Ty Simpson, and 420 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 7: I really like the setup that he steps into now 421 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 7: with Klein de Borr being reunited with his longtime deputy, 422 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 7: former offensive coordinator who is now back, they've gotten the 423 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 7: band back together, Ryan Grubb. So that combo at the 424 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 7: top with the coaching staff is a pretty good start. 425 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 7: Ty Simpson I think fits the Alabama the Kaylin de 426 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 7: Boer system better than Jalen Milroe last season. He's clearly 427 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 7: not as mobile. You can't say anybody's as mobile as 428 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 7: Jalen Milroe, but he won't be as mistake prone as 429 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 7: I think Milroe was. He's definitely mobile enough where he 430 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 7: can move around the pocket. He's had some big runs 431 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 7: over the course of his career, just in very limited action, 432 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 7: and I think he gives them a little bit more 433 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 7: consistency with intermediate thros working the ball down the field vertically. 434 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 7: So in terms of good situations, this is a pretty 435 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 7: good one for ty Simpson to step into. And if 436 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 7: it doesn't work for Ty Simpson, they've got Austin Mack, 437 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 7: who they like came with Kayln de Boor from Washington. 438 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 7: They've also got Keilon Russell, who comes in one of 439 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 7: the highest rated quarterbacks this most recent recruiting cycle. So 440 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 7: it's a smart coaching staff. It's a really good supporting 441 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 7: cast that brings back more this season than we're used 442 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 7: to from any Alabama team I can remember in recent memory. 443 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 7: And so if it doesn't work with Simpson, it's gonna 444 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 7: work with one of the other guys. I think Alabama 445 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 7: is going to be just fine. 446 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Oklahoma. You know, Oklahoma had had 447 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: the savior last year, an artold, and he lasted three games. 448 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: Now you're bringing a proven commodity and his offensive coordinator 449 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: from Washington State. But it's a as we see with 450 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: people trolling his Venmo account, it's a completely different world 451 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: when you get to the SEC. How does how does 452 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: how does that work? 453 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 7: Yeah? I heard your spot talking about JOm Matier and 454 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 7: the Venmo and it's it's a wild world, man, It's 455 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 7: just you step into the SEC and uh, you know, 456 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 7: the gloves come up. I listen. I like Jommettir, I 457 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 7: like Ben Arbuckle. I like the fact that friend Vannables 458 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 7: is bringing them down as a tandem. I think that's 459 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 7: a good situation. My only hesitation. I guess there's two 460 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 7: of them on the Materier front. The first is played 461 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 7: basically a Mountain West schedule last season, Like, let's just 462 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 7: call it what it is. It was a Mountain West 463 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 7: schedule last year for Washington State. He was really good. 464 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 7: But what does it look like now? Does that game 465 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 7: translate to the SEC with just a murderer's row of 466 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 7: a schedule for Oklahoma this year. I don't know the 467 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 7: answer to that. I don't know if anybody does. We're 468 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 7: just sort of assuming that he's going to click and 469 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 7: that he's better than what they had, But I don't 470 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 7: know if anybody can necessarily say that for certain. The 471 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 7: second thing that I'm really curious about John Mattier is 472 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 7: a crazy good runner of the football. I mean, he 473 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 7: is electric when he's got the ball in his hands. 474 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 7: When he's running. As a passer, there's a lot of inconsistency. 475 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 7: There's a lot of inconsistency there that I think he's 476 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 7: got some rough edges to his passing game. He's going 477 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 7: to need to shore that up again against a really, 478 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 7: really difficult schedule. Now again, he would have been the 479 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 7: leading rusher if you just look at his numbers from 480 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 7: a year ago, he would have been the leading rusher 481 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 7: on Oklahoma all last season. Oklahoma had no ground game whatsoever. 482 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 7: They went out, they hit the portal hard. They're trying 483 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 7: to make things. I think Brent Vannables understood the asignment 484 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 7: to saw season. They needed to get better in a 485 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 7: hurry in a bunch of different places. The tier gives 486 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 7: them that. But I am not ready to fully commit 487 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 7: to the fact that this is just going to be 488 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 7: the second coming of Baker Mayfield that some have professed, 489 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 7: because you need to see him against better competition, you 490 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 7: need to see if he can improve as a passer. 491 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Then you have Penn State, where everybody loves Drew Aller 492 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: but like again, and twenty four touchdowns is great, it's 493 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: it's not otherworldly, but really really good. But you have 494 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: James Franklin, who doesn't beat the top ten teams. Right, 495 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: that's the narrative, and it's it's a fair narrative because 496 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: we have enough, we have a big enough sample size. 497 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: They play Oregon at home, they go to Ohio State, 498 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: Nebraska at home, and the potentially a Big ten championship game. 499 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Is this the year that Penn State finally wins those 500 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: big ones? 501 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 7: I think they'll win one of the big ones. So 502 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 7: I'm a Penn State grad and I've been hearing this 503 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 7: all off season, and it's a really interesting conversation when 504 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 7: you start layering on top of everything, this playoff pipe, 505 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 7: this National championship pipe, with what I think the undercurrent 506 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 7: has been for the last couple of seasons, which is 507 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 7: exactly what you mentioned. Can they win the big one? 508 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 7: I think they can beat Oregon at home. That's a 509 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 7: white out game at night. That's pretty advantageous. Oregon's got 510 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 7: a lot new including a quarterback. More to the point 511 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 7: than I made earlier, that's a setup for them that 512 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 7: I like on the road against Ohio State. By that 513 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 7: point in the year, it's later on, it's going to 514 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 7: be a much more veteran Ohio State team than it 515 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 7: is right now. I'm not sure they win that game, Doug. 516 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 7: They've had a real hard time against Ohio State. They've 517 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 7: been close, but again, getting over that hump I think 518 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 7: is job won for Penn State this season. So I 519 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 7: think they beat Oregon. I think they lose to Ohio State. 520 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 7: I think there's a good opportunity for them to get 521 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 7: revenge over Ohio State in a potential Big Ten championship game. 522 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 7: But we got to go one step at a time 523 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 7: here in the Penn State universe. Got to get one 524 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 7: of these monkeys off their back. Beat Oregon, beat Ohio State, 525 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 7: beat one of those two teams to at least give 526 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 7: us a proof of concept that you can win a 527 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 7: game of that magnitude before we start talking up big 528 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 7: ten titles, before we start talking up national championships. I 529 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 7: like Drew Aller. They've got so much back. It's hard 530 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 7: not to like this team. Full disclosure, I've got him 531 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 7: as my national champ. Maybe there's a little bit of 532 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 7: homersm there because I graduated from there, but alas, it's 533 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 7: hard to look at this team and feel differently. There's 534 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 7: a lot back. If ever there were a year for Franklin, 535 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 7: this would be it. So we'll see. I don't know. 536 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 7: All I can say is we'll see, and I'll give 537 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 7: you a shrug. 538 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: Speak speaking of a lot back at Clemson played the 539 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: playoff last year, open up with LSU, and they've been 540 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: the anti portal. They've been the team retention right that, 541 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: that's been their narrative. Does it work this year? 542 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 7: I think so. I mean third year for cade club 543 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 7: Nick in the offense. We saw him take big strides 544 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 7: last season. This is a team I believe that leads 545 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 7: the nation in returning production. They've got a schedule that 546 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 7: features some interesting bookends, right with the LSU game that 547 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 7: you mentioned, and they close out against South Carolina. But 548 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 7: you'd be hard pressed to find many teams in the 549 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 7: schedule that you don't look at, at least at first 550 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 7: blush and say, oh, yeah, that team's better than Clemson. 551 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 7: That's just not the case. Clemson's going to be better than 552 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 7: most of the teams that they play this year. They've 553 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 7: got so much back. I've got him as my preseason 554 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 7: number one. I've got him playing for the national championship. 555 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 7: I think really highly of this team. I think the 556 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 7: counterpoint with Clemson is, well, look at what they did 557 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 7: last year. There was a lot of inconsistency. There's still 558 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 7: a lot that they need to clean up. But to 559 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 7: the point, Dablo's got guys in the system now that 560 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 7: have been there a while. We started to see his 561 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 7: wide receiver corp grow up a little bit last season. 562 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 7: They had been lacking that element of their game. They 563 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 7: brought in a big time running back via the high 564 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 7: school ranks. I think all of the ingredients are there 565 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 7: for Clemson, provided they can get a little bit more 566 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 7: consistent and clean up some of what woe done last year. 567 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 7: I feel pretty good about the Tigers and their chances. 568 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five, Ty Hilderbridge our guest You's co host 569 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: of Solid Verbal by the way when you guys came 570 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: up with solid verbal was that when solid verbal commitments 571 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: actually meant something, it. 572 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 7: Was Yeah, we've got a bunch of emails about that, like, hey, 573 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 7: you guys gonna like change the name now, I mean 574 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 7: we're we've been doing this since so eight, we're many 575 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 7: years into it, probably too many at this point to 576 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 7: change the name. But yeah, it doesn't mean as much 577 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 7: as it used to, does it. 578 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: No, No, honestly, now you can sign the national letter 579 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: in tenant doesn't seem to be binding. It's it's it's 580 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's crazy. How's Bill Belichick do your one? 581 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: In college football? 582 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 7: That's like the big question, right if you're not talking 583 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 7: about Arch Manning, you're talking about Bill Belichick. A lot 584 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 7: new at UNC, including a quarterback coaching staff. I mean, 585 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 7: you name it, new narratives too. With some of what 586 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 7: we heard in the off season, it's I don't know 587 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 7: if UNC is fully prepared for what it got so 588 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 7: far out of Bill Belichick. But look, I mean, I 589 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 7: think you expect base level competence on defense. I think 590 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 7: you expect base level competence when it comes to the 591 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 7: operational stuff. Sometimes the boring process driven stuff that we 592 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 7: know he was really good at with New England. I 593 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 7: think he will find ways to at least get them 594 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 7: running more efficiently, get them on schedule, on time. Fundamentally, 595 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 7: they will be much sounder than I think they've been recently. 596 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 7: So as the starting point in the ACC, which is 597 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 7: always wide open, that feels like a pretty good place 598 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 7: to be beyond that, though, like I don't mean to punt, 599 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 7: but there again, this is another situation where there is 600 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 7: so much new with this school and with this roster 601 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 7: that to expect it all to come together right away 602 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 7: is probably a bridge too far. I think they'll be 603 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 7: improved on defense. They haven't played defense in three years, 604 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 7: so he's going to make them better on that front, 605 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 7: and that's going to go a long way, and that's 606 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 7: I think going to keep them at least somewhat in 607 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 7: the conversation in the ACC. The other thing I'd add 608 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 7: about your one for Bill Belichick, it's a really advantageous schedule. 609 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 7: Like if you're in the ACC, you kind of want 610 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 7: that UNC schedule right now. So it's going to be 611 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 7: set up well for him. He's got a tough opening 612 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 7: act against TCU on the Monday night, it's on Labor Day, 613 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 7: so he'll have kind of the attention of the college 614 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 7: football watching world on him to see what he can do. 615 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 7: I expect they'll be better. I expect they'll be fundamentally sound, 616 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 7: and I think as a product of their schedule, they 617 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 7: will probably open some eyes. But I would stop short 618 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 7: of saying like eight wins, like seven eight wins, that 619 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 7: nothing more than that in my book. 620 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: He's Ty Hilierbrant, the co host of Solid Verbal. It's 621 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: an iHeartMedia podcast. 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Let's get to Dan Byer with 649 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: the press. 650 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: The press. 651 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: Remember the iHeart app. You can stream us wherever you 652 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: happen to be. Catch us and all of our Fox 653 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven the new 654 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: and improved Ihart Radio app. To search Fox Sports Radio 655 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: in the app to stream us live and select Fox 656 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: Sports radios. When your presets on the iHeartRadio apps, it'll 657 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: pop up top of your screen. 658 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: Dan Doug free Agent, NBA guard Malik Beasley no longer 659 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: the target of the FBI's investigation into gambling on NBA games. 660 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: That was the message from his attorneys, who spoke with 661 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 3: ESPN earlier today. Beasley was never charged in the investigation. However, 662 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 3: negotiations on a potential deal for him to return to 663 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 3: the Pistons were pulled put on hold as he was 664 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: involved in the early portions of this probe. 665 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: HM, so is he innocent, yes, evidence yes, Wow. 666 00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 3: Stunner not be charged and now teams can sign Malik Beasley, 667 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 3: but he was on the verge of re upping with 668 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: the Pistons. Had a good year for a team that 669 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 3: made the playoffs and could even go higher this year 670 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 3: considering where the Eastern Conferences right now. 671 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: I was looking online, tried to check the odds for 672 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: where he landed next. 673 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, he was fruit Sorry he a forty two 674 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 3: million dollars. Oh there you go, right over my head. 675 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: Forty two million dollar deal. I think to go back 676 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: to Detroit. Was was one of the numbers, but second 677 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 3: place in voting for the sixth Man of the Year 678 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: last year. 679 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 7: How about an. 680 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: Other basketball news Indiana Fever guard Caitlyn Clark dealing with 681 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: a bone bruise on her left ankle suffered during a 682 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: workout earlier this month. That's according to ESPN. She's still 683 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: been out with that groin injury. She hasn't played since July. 684 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: So Sophia cunning M's out for the year and she's 685 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: out for most of the year. And by the way, 686 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: when Kaitlyn Clark returns the NFL people being played in 687 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: college football, like, yeah, it's a miss for the WNBA. 688 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: It was Sam, you want to wait. 689 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: It's been a bit of a cursed year for the Fever. 690 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 2: They also lost Sidney Coulson and. 691 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 7: Uh Airy McDonald and so they've lost a lot of people. 692 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: It's it's been a struggle. 693 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,479 Speaker 1: But second year, Jordan's second year, you know, he missed 694 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: most of the year. The broken foot came back at 695 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: sixty three in the playoffs. 696 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: Did you guys see that? 697 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: They're still in position to get to the playoffs, So 698 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 2: maybe they get Katelyn. 699 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry, do you see what? 700 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 3: Did you see that Sports Center tweet yesterday? Oh so 701 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: bad with the Did you see this Jason the artists 702 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 3: rendition of like two hundred faces. I'm guessing all icons, 703 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 3: all the icons, all the moments, all of ESPN all 704 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 3: in one place, this and the launching of their direct 705 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: to consumer, and. 706 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: It was almost thought there was a ton of w 707 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: NBA players Nobody. 708 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark, Sabrinni and Escu, Asia Wilson, Brianna Stewart, Angel 709 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 3: Reyes Page, Becker's the Juju Watkins How not to Sell 710 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 3: an app? The FSA Collier How not to sell an app? 711 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 3: The studio show for the w NBA. No, they truly 712 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 3: were on there. 713 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: I know, yes, I know how not to sell an app? 714 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: Not pictured Tiger Woods, Scotti Scheffler, Steve Rory mccarroy, Andy Scotty. 715 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: Shffler had a decent year. He was running that. Now listen, 716 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: here's my here's my guess on it just a guess, okay, 717 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: that they told some artists, Hey, we want you to 718 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: watch ESPN for a month and tell us that you 719 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: see the most. And that's probably what you saw, to 720 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: be totally honest, right to Scotti Seffler, No, the majors 721 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: are on on, so you're watching the programming or it's like, 722 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: what's important to us? I guess, I don't know. I 723 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: I just think it's got to be an artist that 724 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: knows nothing about sports. Because the lack of Scheffler, the 725 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: lack of more NFL, the lack of more NBA, lack 726 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: of more Major League Baseball, lack of the bigger stars 727 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: in the world is stunning. They pulled it down, by. 728 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 3: The way, Yes, the tweet has been deleted. And that's 729 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 3: the press they. 730 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: Get out there and pressed. 731 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 4: That was the press. 732 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: I think I would take Kansas State the only one 733 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: that matters this weekend, right college football, Kansas play as 734 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: well Kansas new stadium, well, the half of the new stadium, right, 735 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: half of It's still fun.