1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We make way for Bruce Arian's, head coach 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Coach, Good to have you 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: back on. How would you describe the atmosphere there in 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: New England this past Sunday night? Oh, it was definitely 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: a playoff atmosphere, that's for sure. It was. It was 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: a little bit surreal, but I thought Tom handled extremely well. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: What role do you play in a situation like that? 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how many times you've been in a 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: situation where you have, you know, something like this homecoming 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: or reunion of sorts and you're talking to you know, 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: your quarterback. Yeah. I think for us, the whole message 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: all week was, you know, we got to bounce back 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: as a team having lost to the Rams. It's a 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: team sport. It just happens to be Tom Brady's return 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: to New England. But we're playing the Patriots, and so 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: we kept that team message all week and Tom did 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: a great job of keeping his feelings under control all week, 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: and we didn't play very well, but we won the ballgame. 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: Why were you so annoyed with the hype heading into 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: this because this is a team sport. You know, Tom 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: Brady didn't win seven championships. The team won him. You know, 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots won him. He didn't win the championship here 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: last year, the Bucks won the championship. He's the quarterback. 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: But we try to make this thing a singles man 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: sport too many times. And Bill didn't win all those championships. 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: He coached the team that did. And I think we're 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: losing sight of a football being a team sport. What 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: did you think of the decision that Belichick was going 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: to go for the field goal and not go for 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: fourth and three. What was your reaction to that? In 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: real time? Though, I thought it was a perfect call. 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: I'll watch Nick Folk knock that thing in with heavier 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: rainy and warm ups from sixty So I was very 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: very nervous. I knew he could make that kick, and 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was a perfect call by Bill to 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: do it. I was surprised because even if he made it, 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: he's still giving Tom the ball with fifty five seconds 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: to go and two time outs. And I like your odds. Yeah, 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: I think for for for him and for me also, 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: that's time to play defense. And uh, you know, for 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: our kicker, we'd have to get all the way to 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: the thirty five, and with two timeouts, it wouldn't be impossible. 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: I would like I like our chances too, but I 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: want to be winning when that thing. I don't want 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: to lose it on the fourth and three. What do 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: you think of replay? I love replay I don't like 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: the interpretations of the rules anymore. You know, things that 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: were things that were something for one hundred years aren't 50 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: the same anymore. We're changing rules every single year that 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: have been rules forever. And so yeah, I love replay. 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I just cannot stand the interpretation of some rules. All 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: say it so you don't get fined. I thought you 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: got screwed. Uh need your Kobe Myers catch? Coach, Yeah, 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what you know. There's now 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: a third element to a fumble. And I thought a 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: football move was running towards your goal line, so when 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: you catch it, you might bobble it, but then you've 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: got total control for two steps and somebody punches it 60 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: out from behind. That's a fumble. It always has been 61 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: a fumble. Now it's not a fumble, So I just 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: throw my hands up anymore. How did we watch football? 63 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Coach back when we were younger, when you know, we 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: didn't worry about what's a catch and ground causing the 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: fumble or a football move? I mean this, it feels 66 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: like they're adding instead of subtracting. Oh, totally totally trying 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: to you know, what is it? Catch? What's a fumble? Hell? 68 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: What's a touchdown? I don't know what. You crossed the 69 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: boat and goal line with the ball and control of 70 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: your hands is touchdown? But you know, I'm not on 71 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: the competition committee anymore, but yeah, I don't. I'm not. 72 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm not in favor of some of the new rules. 73 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: I think the tawning thing has gotten out of control already. 74 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what taunting is and isn't coach, Yeah, 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all know what it is. 76 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: But it's not jubilant celebration or talking a little bit 77 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: of crap. I mean, uh, it's it's the over the 78 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: over the top jumping in somebody's face. But yeah, I mean, 79 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: we've we've gotten to the to the point now where 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: we're trying to ficiate everything. Do you talk smack during 81 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: a game? NonStop? Like? But who are you saying it too? 82 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: Referee players like you're saying it to the opposition if 83 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: I know the guys yuh, like, for instance, for Richard Sherman, 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: now that he's on my team, I can't believe it. 85 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: We talked more crap against each other for all those 86 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: years in Arizona and uh and some of the other 87 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: guys that that I know, and uh, you know, so, yeah, 88 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: it's that's a fun part of it. How would you 89 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: summ up what's going on with your secondary right now? 90 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: That's a that's a hospital award. I mean, we probably 91 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: have possibly one starter this week and three guys that 92 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: got here a month ago. So Kyd Bows will do 93 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: a hell of a job. He'll have him ready to play. 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, injuries are not an excuse in this business. 95 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Bruce arians third season is the Buccaneers 96 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: head coach. Do you consider Belichick the best NFL coach 97 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: of all time? I think one of the top three 98 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: for sure. You know, I've got great respect for Don 99 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Shula and Chuck No. I think Coach Belichick's are right 100 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: there with him. What does he do better than everybody 101 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: else in the modern game. I think he takes away 102 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: your strengths and he knows your weaknesses, and he tries 103 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: to take them away too. I mean he's defensively, they've 104 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: been as hard to go against as anybody that I've 105 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: gone to in my twenty seven years. I talked to 106 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer yesterday. He said, Tom Brady has seen every 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: kind of defensive front, He's seen all of that, but 108 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Belichick still found a way to frustrate him. Did you 109 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: sense that? Yeah, yes, and no, I think we played. 110 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: We played offensively as bad as we could play as 111 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: a group of receivers and people doing the right thing 112 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: and being in the right spacing, and Tom was very, 113 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: very careful with the ball. But they did a great 114 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: job of taking some things away, but they don't take 115 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: everything away. And you've got to find out which one 116 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: it is. Gronk's injury ribs now punctured lung What's what's 117 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: the outlook best case scenario for him? Yeah, the lungs 118 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: all cleared up, and so now it's just gonna be 119 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: pain tolerance. And I think they were concerned about one 120 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: of the ribs as far as being displaced. So let's 121 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: day to day. Take me back to when you were 122 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: seven and five last year, late November, what happened and 123 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: was there anything that you go I could put my 124 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: finger on it that happened that changed us. Yeah. I 125 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: think it really was halftime of Atlanta. You know, we 126 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: talked about all the things we wanted to improve upon 127 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: over an open date. We came out, we beat Minnesota, 128 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: but then we're seventeen nothing, and it was, hey, we 129 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: got to attack and we're gonna put it. I told Byron, 130 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: all those home runs on that sheet, call them all, 131 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: call them in a road. We're attacking. We're not going 132 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: to stop attacking. And same thing with Todd on defense. 133 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: We're going to attack. We took that mode and we 134 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: have never stopped it. You know. We started pushing the 135 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: ball down the field offensively, We started getting a people 136 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: more on defense and playing to our strengths. And Tom 137 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: really played extremely well and our team did. We cut 138 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: the penalties out. We just played really good team football. 139 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: Can you explain the difference of a spread offense and 140 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: the West Coast offense? The West Coast one's always back 141 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: me because I don't know where they came. I don't 142 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh's offense, you know, and uh, but people have 143 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: evolved the spread. I think the spread is the read 144 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: option to me, you're you've got four receivers spread out 145 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: all over the field, and the quarterback's going to read 146 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: the option part of the run game and the RPO 147 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: part of it. The college offense that some teams are 148 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: running down the NFL, but the West Coast is Uh. 149 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: That was a two back set that no one has anymore. 150 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: So I don't think there is a West Coast offense 151 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: after it. There's a lot of the terminology. You know 152 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: that that coaches are still using coach Walsh's terminology, but 153 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: they're not running the West Coast. Do you sample from college? Uh? 154 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: For us, it's what what do your players? What abilities 155 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: do they have? How can we maximize their talent and 156 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: just put the plays in it work for them. If 157 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: there was an open draft and I give you the 158 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: first pick of all these quarterbacks under age twenty six, hypothetical, 159 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: so I got Justin Herbert, Kyler, Murray, Joe Burrow, Josh 160 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: allen More, Jackson Patrick, let me take my homes out 161 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: of this, Trevor Lawrence, uh Albright, Justin Herbert right now, 162 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: he's playing as good as anybody you know. He's got 163 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: he's got the all the measurables of what great quarterbacks 164 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: have always had. You know, he's got the hype, arm, 165 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: the speed, the size, and so I don't know if 166 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: anybody's playing any better than him right now, even Patrick, 167 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: but also coach. You know, one thing for sure is 168 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: that there for about eight years we went through the 169 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: flux of no quarterbacks coming out of college. And now 170 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: with all the passing leaks in high school and all, 171 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: you're getting the quality of quarterback player coming out of 172 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: college now, it's way better than it has been. I 173 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: mentioned this about twenty minutes ago. It feels like the 174 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: NFL experts will talk themselves out of somebody like Lamar Jackson. 175 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: Well he can't do this, Kyler Murray, he's too short 176 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: and that's dangerous. The analogy also made was like Steph Curry, 177 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: if you saw him in college, you go, he can't 178 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: play in the NBA. Or Steve Nash he can't play 179 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: in the NBA. Well, why is it that we talk 180 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: ourselves out of something instead of looking at the positives 181 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: to say this is what they do so well? That 182 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: overshadows that. I think that's the world today. You know 183 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, Dan, I mean everything's negative, you know everything. 184 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: Let's find the negative part of it and not the 185 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: positive part of it. And for me, I'll boys coached 186 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: the way that everybody's got a talent. Now let's let's 187 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: make sure that we build those strengths and maximum you know, 188 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: ensures weaknesses get better too. But let's build on the strength. 189 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Everybody's got a how many hats? You gut? Oh? My 190 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: wife gets pissed every day because there's a stack on 191 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: this drawer. There's a stack to put the damn things 192 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: away somewhere. I got a drawer full, having more room 193 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: in a drawer? Are you superstitious? I swear I'm not, 194 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: but I him if you win with it, if you 195 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: lose with a hat like the hat you wore with 196 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: the Rams, do you get rid of that? I's gone. 197 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: How about the super Bowl hat as it's up on 198 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: the shelf. But so oh yeah, yeah, I would. I would. 199 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: I'm surprised Hall of Fame didn't ask for that. They 200 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: actually did. They got They got the whole thing, the shirt, 201 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: the hat, everything, and uh, I really wanted to keep it, 202 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: but I'd rather have it there. Hey, great to talk 203 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: to you, a coach, and uh, good luck against the 204 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins this Sunday. We appreciate your time as always. Are 205 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: you bad? Dan? Always a friend. That's Bruce Arians of course, 206 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: uh super Bowl champ. He was an assistant with the 207 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: Steelers and won a couple of Super Bowls there as well. 208 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 209 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 210 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: on Fox four Radio and the iHeart Radio app Let's 211 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: bring in the Hall of Famer Jim nance. Jim was 212 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: on the calls Steelers and the Packers. He has the 213 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: Dolphins and the Buccaneers this Sunday on CBS Morning. Jim, 214 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: How are you hello, friend? I like this little chat 215 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: you're having about best quarterbacks under the age of twenty four. 216 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: It's an exciting time for the game, and I mean 217 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: you could pretty much draw any one of those names 218 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: and be happy. But this kid, Justin Herbert is amazing. 219 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: We saw it again last night. I had two of 220 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: the first three games, and he's not only the real deal, 221 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: but this team is. They're going to be in it 222 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: to the end. I think. All right, on the other 223 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: side of that rainbow, you have Ben Roethlisberger. You got 224 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: you and Tony got to see Ben up close personal. 225 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: What would you do. If you're Mike Tomlin and the 226 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Steelers with Ben, that's a tough one because you know 227 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: he's truly, truly doesn't have any help up front. There 228 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: is absolutely no cohesion when you go rookie at left 229 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: tack or we're not talking about a first round we're 230 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: talking about a fourth round at left tackle, a second 231 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: year player at left guard who didn't play a ton 232 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: last year in a rookie center, what do you expect. 233 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, in the game that we saw, he threw 234 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: a strike down the field on their first possession to 235 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Deante Johnson that looked like the Ben of old. But 236 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean he's running for his life. The problem is 237 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: he can't run like he used to. Remember how hard 238 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: he was to bring down. You couldn't never tackle him. 239 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: Well that's different now, but I would give it some 240 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: more time. I think there's way too much pressure right 241 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: now and attention on got to make a change. By 242 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: the way, if they had a quarterback in waiting that 243 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: I thought was going to have a better outcome, that 244 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: would be another story. I don't see that right now. 245 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: So I'm still with Ben, and I think it's a 246 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: sign of respect too. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer, 247 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, big time career records and all that, and 248 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to see anybody in their career that 249 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: way where people are dumping on you. But also, Jim, 250 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: you know how this works. Everybody has to have a take. 251 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: We every week. It's like that's I know exactly how 252 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: good that team is or how bad that team. I mean, 253 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston was a dark horse candidate for MVP after 254 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: Week one. Aaron Rodgers didn't care about playing for the Packers. 255 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: He's nonchalant like you and Tony probably have to fight 256 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: that urge of saying I kind of know what this 257 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: team is or this player is. I'm not a hot 258 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: take guy, Dan, and I know we live in a 259 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: hot take world. And I was watching the pregame shows 260 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday. I won't name any names, but you know 261 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: I heard Zone will make a declaration that you can 262 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: take it to the bank that the Giants are going 263 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: to be oh and ten after ten weeks. If you 264 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: look at their schedule, you can book it. Right now, 265 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: they're o and ten. Three hours later they've got a victory. 266 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: So it's just, hey, that was a great take. Problem 267 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: isn't a very short shelf light, and sometimes you have 268 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: to just kind of weed through all this and try 269 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: to get to something that's a little more common sense. 270 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: How are your conversations with Aaron Rodgers? You'd be I 271 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: don't think you'd be surprised because you've talked to him 272 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: enough times. The guy is brilliant, and he's thoughtful, he's insightful. 273 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: And we talked to him on Friday and I asked 274 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: him who was harder to replace? I never got this 275 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: on the air, by the way, so now I get 276 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: a place to dispense this information. This is great. Who 277 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: was harder to replace? Brett Farve or Alex Trebek? Okay, 278 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: what do you think Alex Trebek? Bingo correct? Because he 279 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: can do what Brett Farve did. It's really hard to 280 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: replicate what Alex Trebek did, and Trebek did it for 281 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: over three decades. You know, He's an interesting study, Aaron, 282 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: because when his career is over and he's no work close, 283 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: I believe to call it at quits. I think that 284 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: the longevity wise, if there's a guy that's going to 285 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: do it as long as Tom Brady is going to 286 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: set the pace here, I think Aaron's the guy that 287 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: could do it. Not where will he be that's another question. 288 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: But after football his next act, he could be a 289 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: game show host. I know that he's interested in doing that, 290 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be Jeopardy. It could be 291 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: something else. I think he could be an acting We 292 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: know that in his first all life he's close to 293 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: that Hollywood world. Hollywood world, and if you watch his commercials, 294 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: he's pretty darned gifted at it. If he wanted to 295 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: be an analyst and sit in the booth, I think 296 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: he would be exceptional. So, I mean, he's got so 297 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: many options out there. It's going to be an interesting study. 298 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: But I think that's five or six years down the road. 299 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Minimum were you approached to audition for Jeopardy? No? No, 300 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: And I had a lot of people ask me that 301 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about in the media, but I got 302 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: asked that by friends I met. Had no interest in. 303 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to ever cloud. This is just me. Okay, 304 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean anybody else. You know, if they wanted 305 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: to do it and have some fun with it, that's cool. 306 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: But my love is is telling stories about sports. I 307 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: don't aspire to be anything else. I kind of like 308 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: dabbled in that world. A little bit early in my career, 309 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: I hosted the morning show on CBS as a fill 310 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: in as a backup to Brian Gumbel, and eventually I 311 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: got offered that job full time and I faced the 312 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: real crossroads of my career. Did I want to go 313 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: into use or did I want to stay with what 314 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: was driving me, what was in my heart since I 315 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: was a kid. And once I made that decision, I 316 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: wasn't going to use. I wasn't going in the morning television. 317 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: I was seeing in sports. I made the determination then 318 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to ever cloud the picture again. This 319 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: just is for me, by the way, I think it 320 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: takes a lot of talent to be able to do that. 321 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: I know there are others who audition. I know Joe 322 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: did and he did it well. But for me, I 323 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: just want people to know that I love what I'm doing. 324 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean everybody else doesn't love what they're doing, 325 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: But I don't want to be doing anything else. This 326 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: is the job of my dreams and I cherish it. 327 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: And that's just the way I look at There's a 328 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: new book out you are looking live. That's the opening 329 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: line of the new show that was on CBS in 330 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, The NFL Today, and it launched the 331 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: careers of Brent Musburger, Phyllis Georgi, or of Cross Jimmy 332 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: the Greek and the title of the book you know 333 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: you wrote, jim you wrote the forward to this What 334 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: did that? What did that show mean to you when 335 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: you were growing up? That was my favorite show on television. 336 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Now people would say, wait a minute, I think you 337 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: can't count that against episode of television like Mission Impossible 338 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: and All in the Family and Mary total Moore. But 339 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: for me, I couldn't wait until twelve thirty on Sundays. 340 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: People forget it was a half hour show. Dan, you 341 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: know it. It wasn't an hour show. You didn't have 342 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: programming all week long. You didn't have the content, you 343 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: didn't have the Internet, you didn't have the feedback. We 344 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: were all starved for information, those of us who loved 345 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: the NFL, and that show not only provided you that information, 346 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: it entertained you. So it really truly was one of 347 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: the things that tugged me to want to be in 348 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: this business. Rich did a fabulous job writing this book, 349 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: and as far as history in the industry, you won't 350 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: believe some of the things that are in there that 351 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: extend beyond the base crew that you just talked about. 352 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: I was blown away by his research and how close 353 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: he was to so many of those people. For example, 354 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: it gets into some of the history of people that 355 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: came through CBS back into seventies, not just in the studio. 356 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: I'll take Al michaels Okay. I mentioned now on the 357 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: broadcast on Sunday. Al happened on Sunday to have the 358 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: game of the year that everyone wanted, Tampa Bay in 359 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: New England. It fell the date October the third, on 360 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: the exact fifty year to the day anniversary of Alice's 361 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: first ever NFL call, which was Buffalo against Minnesota on NBC. 362 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Johnny Morris was his broadcast partner, and not only was 363 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: oj in the game at Callowing's played in the game 364 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: for Buffalo. Norm Sneed was the quarterback from Minnesota. Al 365 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: got seven hundred and fifty dollars to do that game. 366 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: Now rich and got into the fact that that was 367 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: that was Al's first game. Then he came over to 368 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: CBS to play by play for a short while. But 369 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: I called out on Friday, I had somebody tipped me 370 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: off on the date and everything that was going to 371 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: be that day. He did not know. He are you sure? 372 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: I said, you can look it up October the third, 373 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: and I said, I'm gonna mention on Sunday and the 374 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: Doubleheaded game pout. But yeah, there's just some great background 375 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: you are looking live that those words, when they would 376 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: leave the lips of Brent Musburger, who I just have 377 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: endless respect for Brent, it would give me chills. You know, 378 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: we're so similar Dan an age and likes and dislikes. 379 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: I know it impacted you the same way. I know 380 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: you felt the same extense of excitement when the first 381 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: shot would come up out of black and you are 382 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: looking live at RFK Stadium in Washington, and he just 383 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: just totally riveted. And this book comes at a really, 384 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: really good time, my belief, because you don't only get 385 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: too far past those glory days. That was, in my estimation, 386 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: the greatest studio show of all time, and somebody needed 387 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: to document it, and nobody could have done it better 388 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: than Richdon. And then you find out that Brent would say, 389 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: you're looking live to let the gamblers know these are 390 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: the weather conditions at Soldier field. You know, when I 391 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: auditioned for CBS in nineteen eighty five, I auditioned on 392 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: a Saturday early in the football season, and I won 393 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: the host role for College College Football and hosted the 394 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: show with Pat Hayden. A few weeks later, Teddy Shaker, 395 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: who is our executive producer and had a huge impact 396 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: on me getting my career started, he said, you ought 397 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: to come by and watch Brent do the show. Well, 398 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: you didn't have to ask twice. So I stuck around 399 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: after one of my early shows on CBS and I 400 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: sat in the back of the studio and I watched 401 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: him do the Greek's Corner, and I watched him come 402 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: on that wide show with that great anthem, the song 403 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: behind the NFL Don Dunne. You know, just I'm like, 404 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: is this real? Did I actually sit in that same 405 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: chair yesterday? This is crazy? Is this really happening? Um? 406 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: The show was mesmerizing. Phillis, of course, was pioneering and groundbreaking. 407 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: We just lost her or sadly, we also just lost 408 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: her cross. Mike Pearl, who was the producer behind that show, 409 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: died in this last year. Um, but true legendary stuff, 410 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: and I think anyone who's a sports fan is gonna 411 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: love love this book, whether you're old enough to remember 412 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: that show or not. Do you ever gamble? If you 413 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: call fantasy football gambling, I guess, but not on a game. 414 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: Oh gosh no, no, no, I don't even know. And 415 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: I need to probably pay a little more attention to 416 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: it because you know, you see where everybody's going with it. Yeah, 417 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's everywhere the commercials should go to. 418 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: It's it's all talk about we're first off, that is 419 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: absolutely taboo if you're if you're calling games and gambling 420 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: at the same time. Now, I'm not saying the likelihood 421 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: that there are people out there doing it in our 422 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: profession is very high. I would never think about doing that. Um, 423 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: I just just just ethnically, I don't think he can 424 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: do it. But are you factoring in point spreads though 425 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: in you know, during your broadcast, is it mentioned? I don't. 426 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Probably should pay closer attention to it. Take Al for example, 427 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: he's always had fun with this game, isn't over? Yeah, 428 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, I haven't work those then because I feel 429 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: like that's kind of Al's got the rights to that. 430 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: But I did Pittsburgh and Green Bay on Sunday, I 431 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you right now what the line was for 432 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: that game. So I'm so locked into the process of 433 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: preparation talking to players and coaches. He get a pretty 434 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: good feel after you meet with everyone where the game 435 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: might be going. Oftentimes you're surprised, but the lines I 436 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: don't pay any attention to us. Eaton O'Connor, of course, 437 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: one of the dants does some impersonations that you might 438 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: be entertained by. Seton. Do you want to give jim 439 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: nance you're al Michael's impersonation, and not many people doing 440 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: al Michael's impersonation, but Seaton did this to al Michaels 441 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: just to let you know, all right, in there he 442 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: goes the Lamar Jackson game. He kept saying, in there 443 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: goes and so Seaton and if we had Tony Romo 444 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: on Seaton also does a Tony Romo impersonation. You know, I, 445 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: of course, you know we've been in each other's company before, 446 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't know you had the talent that could 447 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: go this far a wide. Uh, it's just becoming Cali wow. Wow. Yeah, 448 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: he's getting good. You know, he's got he's got a 449 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: bit that he does with with our booth and he 450 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: does Tony. I think he's got Tony just dead ringer. 451 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: He has me always, no matter what the scenario is, 452 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: saying Tony, there weren't There was a time when Frank 453 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: first came out with it. I admired greatly by the way. 454 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: One of the first times he came out with that bit, 455 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: and I was having everyone afford it to me, like 456 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: have you seen this? Have you seen it? Yeah, I've 457 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: seen it and I continue to see it. And I 458 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: said to Tony, I said, we got to work this 459 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: into the game. So we did. We had I can't 460 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: tell you the game. It was late last season and 461 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: it might maybe even reappear on a National Network doubleheader 462 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: game coming to you soon. But whatever, we go through. 463 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: Um if there's a big play. I ended up merit said, 464 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: we do a little, if you will spoof of Frank 465 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: doing us Tony Tony. I didn't wise he did that, 466 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: but it works for me. It's great to see you. 467 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well, and UH have fun with 468 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Buccaneers they Sunday. Thanks pal, Let's 469 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: stay in touch. Than that's jim Nance Hall of Famer, 470 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: and he wrote it forward to the book you are 471 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: looking live. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 472 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 473 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: Foxsports Radio dot com. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join 474 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire with 475 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sportspod pushing the same 476 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: tired narratives down your throat every day. Straight Fire gives 477 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate 478 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: stats to help you win big at the sports book, 479 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: and all the best guests. Do yourself a favor and 480 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: listen to Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, 481 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We wanted 482 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: to bring on Michael kay the great voice of the 483 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: Yankees for the S Network, the play by play voice. 484 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: By the way, he has a book that if you 485 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: haven't grabbed it yet, it's called Center Stage. His most 486 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: fascinating interviews from a Rod to Jay Z available online 487 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: wherever books are sold. Michael Kaye joining us. How would 488 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: you sum up this rivalry in twenty twenty one? Mike, 489 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: pretty much even I mean, if you look at the 490 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: numbers of the Red Sox one ten out of the 491 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: nineteen games. They started off great, the Yankees ended up great, 492 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: and they swept the Red Sox in the final series 493 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: that they played at Fenway Park and Dan. If you 494 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: think about it, they did every single one of those wins. 495 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: If they didn't, you know, yesterday, they would have been 496 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: playing in a tie breaking game with the Blue Jays. 497 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: So I think they're fairly evenly matched. Obviously, the fan 498 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: bases don't like each other. I don't know if there's 499 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: that much enmity between the players. How good are these teams? 500 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: Are either one of these teams elite teams? Well, the 501 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Yankees can be elite and they can also be awful. 502 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a hard team to figure out. There 503 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: are times that they look like they can beat anybody 504 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: and I could easily win the World Series, and then 505 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, they end up losing eight games to the 506 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles. They're very, very tough to pin down and 507 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: say exactly what type of team they are. The Red Sox, 508 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: I think are better than people thought they were going 509 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: to be. If they don't have JD. Martinez today because 510 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: of the ankle, maybe they're not as good as you 511 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: would think. I think the bullpen has been used a 512 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: lot out of necessity. I'm not sure how much they 513 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: are right now. But this pitching matchup between Cole and 514 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: e Baldi, I think it's a pretty even matchup. I 515 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: think it's a pretty even matchup for both teams. So 516 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: it's definitely a flip of the coin for sure. Do 517 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: you remember when you saw the Yankees change that they 518 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: were going to go one dimensional, they were just going 519 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: to be a team that went up there and was 520 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: trying to hit home runs. I remember it was a 521 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, maybe five years ago that, you know, 522 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: Brian Cashman, the Yankee GM said something like, I'm looking 523 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: for Harry Beast. Now he's got one in the broadcast booth, 524 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: but he wanted people out actually on the field. So 525 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: they just started piling you know, power hitters up there 526 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: because they feel the three true out, gonna walk to 527 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: strike out, our home run. That place to their strength. 528 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, Dan, when they hit home runs, 529 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: they do, they do win. But the problem is sometimes 530 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: they don't own runs. And when they don't own runs, 531 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: is very, very difficult for them to create runs. Although 532 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: when they were thirty five and eleven that one streak, 533 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of the season, they had 534 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: guys like Andrew Velaska is playing in Greg Allen and 535 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: they had to create runs. But they're back to the 536 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Yankees right now, and they're gonna hit a home run 537 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: or they're gonna lose a game. Do you think we'll 538 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: get to the point where somebody is counterintuitive and that 539 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: they try to play small ball. They're in a maybe 540 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: a pitchers ballpark, and that's their strength. I always go 541 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: back to Whitey Herzog with those Cardinals or even you know, 542 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals, that they couldn't compete, but you can 543 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: find these players and if you build your pitching staff 544 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: in accordance to your dimensions. Do you think we see 545 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: that in baseball at some point? Again, I hope. I'm 546 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: not sure, but I hope. As you know, Dan sports 547 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: is very copycat like. So if there's a team out 548 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: there that actually wins games like that, I think they 549 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: might go that route. But baseball is so heavily analytic, 550 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: and they are not doing this just on a whim. 551 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: They've got computer readouts and say this is the best 552 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: and most effective way to win games, and until those 553 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: readouts say something else, I think they'll still keep stacking 554 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: up home runs. The thing that I never understood, Dan, 555 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: I understand the home runs win games. I just don't 556 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: understand how they don't care about the strikeouts. And then 557 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: you look look at a team like Tampa Bay. They 558 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: hit home runs, but they don't strike out. And I 559 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: think that might be the next step because well, their excuse, 560 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Dan is well, nothing back. You know, if you strike out, 561 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: nothing back could happen. Other than that out, well, nothing 562 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: good could happen. I mean, you can put a ball 563 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: in play and there could be an error. So I 564 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: think that Tampa Bay is solid that part of it, 565 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: where you don't have to strike out two hundred and 566 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: ten times a year to hit forty home runs. I 567 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: think that's the next step. I know we're looking at 568 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: the end result with the matchups for this one game format? 569 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: Is there a better format? In your opinion, no matter 570 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: who's in? And you know, the Dodgers won one oh 571 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: six and they're in a one game format. That's not fair. Yankees, 572 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: Red Sox, why don't they play three? And as I 573 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: said earlier in the show, if Tampa Bay was playing Toronto. 574 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: No one would be saying we got to have a 575 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: three game series. It would be yeah, let's just get 576 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: this one and done. Is there a better format of 577 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: fairer format in your opinion? No, I don't. I don't 578 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: think so. It makes me laugh. But when people say, 579 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's not fair to the Dodgers. Really they 580 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: knew the rules of engagement. Finished out of the Giants. 581 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: You wouldn't have to play one game, playoff the Yankees 582 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: in the Red Sox, you want to say head of 583 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: the Rais, you wouldn't have to play a one game wildcard. 584 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: I actually like it. They're highly rated games. Essentially, you've 585 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: created two game sevens, win or go home, and I 586 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: think that's what every sport wants to do. I think 587 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: it's perfect. And you know there are teams that are 588 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: going to be left out, and that's the beauty of it. 589 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: If there weren't, this wasn't a wildcard situation, it wouldn't 590 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: be intense down to the inning on Sunday. And one 591 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: other thing, Dan, if you turn this into a best 592 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: of three, you are then making it tougher and more 593 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: difficult for the team that won the division because they've 594 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: got to wait longer and not play, and sometimes that 595 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: takes you out of your game. I think you've got 596 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: to pay a price if you're in the wild pargency 597 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Red Sox will do because you're 598 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: not going to use coal in the first game of 599 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: the Alds and you're not going to use Evaldi. In fact, 600 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: you can only use them once out of the best 601 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: of five. You need that detriment so that you go 602 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: to win the division. I like it just the way 603 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: it is. Did you ever have one of those moments 604 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: phone calls meetings with George Steinbrenner in your career where 605 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: you went, oh, boy, I know he was upset with 606 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: me once because I said that the Yankees had renegged 607 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: on a contract to Daryl Strawberry. And he was in 608 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: the car riding to the airport to leave New York 609 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: and he was listening to John and myself on the 610 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: radio and heard that let's just put it this way, Dan, 611 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: he made the driver turn around on the George stadium. 612 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: So we had a little bit of a discussion after 613 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: that game, but usually it was it was it was 614 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: pretty cool because you know, we don't have to be 615 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: homers with the Yankees. We just say the truth because 616 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: that's how George Steinburner was that the team wasn't playing poorly. 617 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: He said it, so he allowed us to say it 618 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: on the air as well, and it was kind of 619 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: refreshing for somebody who didn't meet or didn't know George Steinbrenner. 620 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: How would you sum him up? Intense When he was 621 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: in the building, you knew he was in the building, 622 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: even if you didn't know he was there, if you 623 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: hadn't seen him, everybody was buttoned up. And I think 624 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: that you still see the residual of that with Brian Cashman, 625 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: who once told me I overstudy everything simply because of 626 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: the fact I don't want him to ask me a 627 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: question that I don't know the answer to him. So 628 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: he was driven. He had a really soft side as well, 629 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: but he was very, very difficult to work for because 630 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: if you didn't do your job, he didn't want you 631 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: there any longer. That's that's the best way I could 632 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: describe him. We got Daniel Jones come up, would you 633 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: rather be a Jets fan or a Giants fan? Well, 634 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: that's a hard question. I guess the Giants are closer, 635 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: so I would say I'd rather be a Giant fan, 636 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: although the Jets do have some hope because I think 637 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson can play, and I like Robert Sala and 638 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: how he's comported himself as well. But since I don't 639 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: like suffering that much stand at least not in sports, 640 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: I think I would take the Giants. Can you see 641 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: theo Epstein coming to the rescue for the New York Ments? 642 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: I can. I guess the offer could be high enough 643 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: that any reservations he might have maybe working for Steve Cohen. 644 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why he would have those, but if 645 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: he did, you know, Steve Cohen could write a big 646 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: enough check. I guess this is the next thing to conquer. 647 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: You've conquered Chicago and Boston, and if you could somehow 648 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: straighten out the Mets. I mean, he's already got a 649 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: plaque in Cooperstown anyway, Maybe they just build him an 650 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: entire wing if he did this. I wondered if he 651 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: wanted to be the commissioner though, because he's working in 652 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: the commission his office, and I don't know what his 653 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: endgame is, but I wondered about that that if he 654 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: was sort of in the line of succession to take 655 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: over for Rob Manfred down the road. You know, I 656 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: don't know if he would be because the commissioner's job 657 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: is more businessman than sportsman. And you know, obviously he's 658 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: been the president of the clubs and obviously ran some 659 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: business operations, but you've got to answer to thirty owners 660 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: and amongst the owners as the visions, and then you've 661 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: got to deal with the players as well. I'm not 662 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: sure a he would want it, and be the owners 663 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: of the guys that hire the commissioner, are they going 664 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: to hire theo Epstein. I'm not sure. I think they 665 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: might go to the businessman route. Again. What's the coolest 666 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: thing in your office? Right behind me is all these 667 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: baseballs and a couple of you know, I had a 668 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: lot of announcer signs on Ernie Harwell and Bence Scully 669 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: and Vince Skelly to me because I went to Fordham 670 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: and he went to Fordham. He's kind of like the 671 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: patron saint of what we do even to this day. 672 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: So that's that's one of my special things. There. Have 673 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: you ever been mistaken for anybody? Key for Sutherland? If 674 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: you look at my eye, I can see that, okay, 675 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: But he's a little better looking than I am. But 676 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: I also have gotten lately Jamison Tyrone, which I'm sorry 677 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: for Jamison that, you know people have to say that 678 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: about him. What about Kurt Schilling? Oh yeah, I got that. 679 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: I got that. Guy comes up to me and said, Kurt, 680 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it was unbelievable what you did in two 681 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: thousand and four. I said, I didn't do anything at 682 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: two thousand or four, and he goes, no, no, no, 683 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: though the whole bloody sock thing, I said that wasn't me, 684 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: and he thought I was just blowing him off. So 685 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: then I you know, if he insisted I was Kurt Schilling, 686 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: so then I essentially blew him off. I said, I 687 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: don't really want to talk to you because it doesn't 688 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: matter to you if this guy doesn't like Kurt Schilling 689 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: not at all. But I mean I get Kurt Schilling 690 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: a lot. And as I go back more of the 691 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 1: our all have fun tonight there, Michael, I'm gonna try 692 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: thanks a lot. See Michael kay Yankee, play by play 693 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: voice for the S Network in his book is My 694 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: most Fascinating Interviews From a Rod to jay Z. Be 695 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show. 696 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: Weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox 697 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. The Pride of 698 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: Duke University Daniel Jones. He is the Giants quarterback. After 699 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: the big win against the New Orleans Saints over the weekend, 700 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: did you watch Monday Night football? Daniel? I watched a 701 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: little bit of it weather delay, pushed through it past 702 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: my bedtime, but I watched the first half. But do 703 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: you watch as a quarterback or a fan? A little 704 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: bit of both? Can't You can't see everything on the 705 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: TV copies, so you gotta kind of piece it together 706 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: in terms of what's being run and what they're trying 707 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: to do on offense and defense. But it's, uh, you know, 708 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: just fun to watch those games. But you compare yourself, 709 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: like you're watching Justin Herbert, you're watching Derek Carr. Do 710 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: you sample from anybody, Like, I'm just curious what you 711 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: could take from those games or those quarterbacks. Yeah, I 712 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: think there's certainly things you can you can watch and 713 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: pick up and uh, you know, throws are making, uh, 714 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: concepts are running, you know, how they're how how they're 715 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: playing the game. But um, I think you also need 716 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: to be careful of that because you know exactly what 717 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: they're trying to do. You don't know what their ideas 718 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: are going in the game, and uh, you know, compare 719 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: yourself too closely without knowing everything could be uh misleading. 720 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: Once the last time you're on the sidelines, you're watching 721 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback play and you're going, oh my god, like, 722 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I can do that. I don't know. 723 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean I think every week you see guys who, um, 724 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, make make some plays that that uh impressive. 725 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: Everyone you know I won in this league, got a 726 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: quarterback who can do it? Oh, there's got to be 727 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 1: one where you go, oh my god, did you see 728 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: what Mahomes did or Aaron Rodgers did? Right? Yeah, I 729 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: think all of those guys, yeah, you know, I mean 730 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: those guys. I think Herbert's one of them. Cars one 731 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: of them. Um, So that was a fun game to 732 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: watch last night. So um yeah, certainly, you know, have 733 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: a ton of respect for those guys. How much have 734 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: you watched the Cowboys since that's next week's opponent. A 735 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: good bit kind of getting into that, you know, last 736 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: night and then today starting our prep on them. So 737 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: they're good defense, ton of talent. All three levels of 738 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: their defense and have many talent players. Of course, a 739 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: bunch of turnovers and um, you know, do a lot 740 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: of good stuff. So we'll have to be ready. What's 741 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: it like being the Giants quarterback when you're not on 742 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: the football field, how like you're walking around? But what 743 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: did people say when they come up to you? Um? 744 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: Most of the time just just too low and how 745 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: you doing? Hopefully? Uh, you know, congrats on the win 746 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: and when we win and and uh just kind of 747 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: say hello, and we don't but uh, you know, it's uh, 748 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 1: it's good, it's been. It's been most of my time. 749 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: Uh here you know, we're busy during the season, so 750 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: not a ton of time. But to be out do 751 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: we like Danny Dimes? Uh? Initially, initially I didn't at first. 752 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: Uh it's kind of corny, but uh, you know it's uh, 753 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's definitely worse things you would be called. 754 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: What was your nickname growing up? Didn't really have a nickname? Uh? 755 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: Growing up, most people call me dj or or Daniel, 756 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: but I didn't didn't really have a nickname. Or how 757 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: good a basketball coach was? Jay billis very good. He 758 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: was a very good coach. Uh. I played with his 759 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: son Anthony uh on every basketball team you know, I 760 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: ever played on from try the time I was in 761 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: third grade and and uh Jay finally coached us when 762 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: we got up to a you in high school and 763 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: h I'd say we had the schematic advantage and the 764 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: coaching advantage and just about every game to play it. 765 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: Did you want to play basketball in college? I did? 766 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, particularly growing up and through 767 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: middle school, it's probably what I played the most of 768 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: It's the easiest to play. You just need you know, 769 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: a couple of buddies and you can you can play basketball. 770 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: So we were always always playing hoots and um, you 771 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: know my younger brother I was playing college basketball now. Um, 772 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: so we were always playing basketball and play a lot 773 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: of football too. But say basketball basketball is probably my 774 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: first passion. But you were there in Duke when Zion 775 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: was there. Do you think you could have walked on 776 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: that Duke and played basketball with Zion? I don't know. 777 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: I think walking on and then playing with Zion H 778 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: certainly enjoying Washington. But how close were you to go 779 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: into Princeton instead of Duke? Uh? I was I was close? 780 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, going into my senior year. Um, 781 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: I was committed there and looking forward to that opportunity, 782 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: and then um, you know, through that, through that senior 783 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: football season, Duke came on and being a Charlotte kid, 784 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: being close to Duke and opportunity to play for for 785 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: coach cut Um, We're all things that I couldn't pass up. 786 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: Are you a sure? Are you a Carolina Panther fan 787 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: I was growing up? Yeah, not anymore? No, not not anymore? 788 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: Favorite quarterback growing up with who? Uh Well, I was 789 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: a big take to long fan because I was a 790 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: Panthers fan and they had some some great years. I 791 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: loved watching him and Steve Smith RUSI mohammed all those guys. Um, 792 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, I think all the big quarterbacks 793 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: uh you know, Peyton and Eli obviously were huge, and um, 794 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: you know Rogers and all those cash growing up. Well, 795 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: congrats on the win against the Saints and good luck 796 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. Daniel awesome, thanks so much. That's Daniel 797 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: Jones and he's okay with Danny Dimes