WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 9/12: Week 1 3 Up/Down, Week 2 Matchups to Watch 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:07.360 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:11.160 Lazar and Alex Barth and Lazarre. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:16.439 Hello, everybody nailed it. Joined us always by our bark. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.160 Here is Evan Lazar and Alex bars So I went 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.119 with dlphin kin Kate, who I don't really love, to 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:25.880 be honest with you, said, I don't feel great about it, 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:27.920 but I just feel like the ball has just. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.360 Blind love of Josh Allen. That's all that. Everybody's getting 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.880 mad at me blindly hating Josh Allen. You're doing the 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:34.200 same thing but in the other eard. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.560 Yeah, I'm just doing to miiss you off. You like tonight, Alex? 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.400 The bills Bills? Oh you like the bills? 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:41.639 Now? 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.360 Well, what do you mean under Mike mcdad Well, so 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.720 two things. One, Yeah, the Bills never went in Miami 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.040 because of the sun, like beating down on that bench. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.240 They're among other teams, they're not alone in that. Yeah, 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.000 no sun tonight, So that helps the Bills also there, 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.560 that's a factor. Come on, we we in New England 0:00:58.600 --> 0:00:59.520 know that as well as anybody. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:00:59.760 Yeah. 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.400 Yeah. And then on top of that, Mike McDaniel against 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.440 teams that over five hundred and yes, I do believe 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.559 the Bills will finish the season over five hundred believe 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:08.880 it or not. Yeah, Mike McDaniel against teams that finished 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.320 the season over five hundred five and ten, he doesn't 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:12.040 beat good teams. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.160 That's why early season Bills they're good. That's why I 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.759 picked the Bills in our picks. Patriot's Unfiltered is because 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:19.920 of McDaniel against cause you. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.240 Got annoyed me earlier in locker room for having that take. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:23.959 I know, because you know I like the cool stuff 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.800 that Miami does. But just really quickly on McDaniel's I know, McDaniel, 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.400 I know this is not Dolphins on catch twenty two. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.839 I promise we'll we'll get to Patriots here in a second. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.040 There's not a whole lot of head coaches in the 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:41.040 NFL that are just like he. I don't even know 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.520 how to say this, because I want to be careful 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.399 like he. It likes to go out on the town 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:51.400 quite a bit when we're in He enjoys life. When 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.120 we're in Indied in the combine, you can always find 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.160 he's not alone in that Mike McDaniel around Okay, it's 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.560 just it's on my radar. Of like, is he really 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.200 taking it seriously? Well, I see, yeah, I don't need 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.120 with all this stuff that's going on. You know, they 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.280 haven't won a playoff game yet, Like you know, I'm 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.519 just I'm just thinking, oh loud, how Probably shouldn't have 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:13.520 said it, but I'm just thinking. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.880 How about you forget that taking it seriously? How about 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.840 when he couldn't get a play calling in a playoff 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.919 game that was against the Bills. Actually I think that 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.399 was against the Bills, right, Uh that came out? Yeah, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:27.760 I think that was his first year they had what 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.720 for delay games or should have had without timeouts, Like, yeah, 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.880 guy can't get a play call. And I don't need 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.280 to know what he's doing off the field to know 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:35.480 he's not taking it seriously. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.720 All right. Hey, hey Patriots fans, if you want to 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.360 see Toto's best offers, including those not seen on TV, 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.200 go to buy at toyota dot com. It's Toyota's official 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.840 website for deals from an official vehicle of the New 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:50.639 England Patriots. Toyota, Let's go play Seattle. I was gonna 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.960 say to Seattle, but we're not going to Seattle, and. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.400 Easy didn't go. If you want no, thanks, nothing there. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.160 Easy to drink, easy to enjoy, bud Light, the official 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.440 beer sponsor of the Newing and Patriots. All right, Evan Lazar, 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.560 Alex Barth with you here. I didn't even say our 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.000 names or the name of the show or anything like. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.360 I like this because I've read in I've always said, 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.919 going back to our previous podcast, our podcast isn't so 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.640 much a show as much as it is just hitting recording, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.240 continuing the conversation we were having. And I think we've 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.040 done this the last few weeks. Yeah, where you just 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.119 kind of opened the show with what I mean, before 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.320 we were on the air, we were talking about me 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.440 playing pop worn or football. That's true, and we were 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.520 talking about Mike McDaniel about an hour ago. It's really 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.040 just picks up the conversation or the text chat or 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.440 whatever and we just go from there. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.520 That's very true. That's very true. But we're going to 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.240 talk about some Patriots begles here at the top of 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.920 the show, and we'll obviously get into Seattle and we'll 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.000 talk take your calls and all that good stuff. But 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.400 my opening monologue, my opening take of the show here today, 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.320 I want to go glass half full, glass half empty, 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.160 because I'm not gonna lie to you, Alex. And I'm 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.880 not just saying this because you know I'm trying to 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.840 be contrarian or you know, anything like that. But the 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.440 the Patriots have gotten a lot of flowers this week 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.280 for winning in Cincinnati. They've gotten a lot of those 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.480 verbal bouquets from people that do our line of work, 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.760 a lot of credit for winning in Cincinnati. I'm all 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.760 for it, right, good for them, goodwin, glad they won, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.280 all those types of things. My glass half empty, are 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.080 half full? Excuse me, glass half full? 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:23.320 On this. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.840 I was listening to Julian Edelman in a clip that 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.360 somebody posted on the X Machine. I believe he was 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.920 on with Colin Coward when he said this, the glass 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.680 half full of what they did on Sunday in Cincinnati 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.719 is that everything that Gerrod Mayo in this coaching staff 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.280 has been preaching since the first squad meeting, going all 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:50.160 the way back to the spring fundamentals, don't beat yourselves, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:54.200 be the more physical football team, conditioning, like all these 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.480 different tenets of the girod Mayo era that they're trying 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.280 to build here, the foundation that they're trying to lay here, 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.880 the fruits of the labor all showed up on Sunday. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.800 They were the more prepared team. They won the line 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.000 of scrimmage, they tackled better, they were more buttoned up 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.479 in terms of penalties and turnovers. They were the better 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.000 fundamental football team on Sunday in Cincinnati. So I agree 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.240 with Edelman wholeheartedly when he says that makes Gid and 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.920 Mayo's life now moving forward a tiny bit easier because 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:29.240 now there there's buying, like now you understand, oh, like validation. 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.520 There's validation exactly like what they're selling. We're actually buying 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.080 now because we won a game playing this way. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:36.719 It works. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.080 It worked, and that's big for this team. I want 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.040 to say that off the top before I get to 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.480 some of my grievances, like that's truly is big for 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.520 the team. And now we can work on some of 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.760 the things that they didn't do so well in the 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.240 game and hopefully improve on those. But the core philosophies 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:59.480 of girod Mayo's football team physicality, run first offense, really 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.800 good defense, be the more conditioned team, be the more 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.440 sound team. All those boxes were checked on Sunday, and 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.400 they beat a team that nobody thought they were gonna 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.280 beat So that's my glass half full about this win 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:12.000 in Cincinnati. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.760 Yeah, no, I think that works. And I make your 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.719 other point because I kind of have an overarching point 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:18.240 of both of them. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.960 So my glass half empty to it is this. I 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.960 look this up because I was curious since the start 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.000 of the twenty twenty three seasons of all over the 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:32.119 last two seasons teams who threw for under one hundred 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.360 and twenty five passing yards on over twenty attempts. So, 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.560 basically Jacob Brissett's stat line from the game on Sunday, 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:45.000 there are thirty two such instances in the league over 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.800 the last two years. How many wins do you think 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.280 those thirty two teams had a handful? Eight? They were 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.119 eight and twenty four two handfuls, so twenty five percent 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.800 win percentage. I just won't don't want to come in 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.760 here and say that team is all of a sudden, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.839 we're gonna pick them every week and they're gonna they're 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.480 on a roll here. They they are going to have 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.640 to pass better, score more, and I have, like, you know, 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.920 individual categories here we can get into, but the overarching 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.040 or the big picture is that they are not going 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.240 to win a whole lot of football games with the 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.320 passing offense that they had on Sunday. Just because they 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.480 won this game this way this week doesn't mean that 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.600 that's going to carry over into that next week and beyond. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.360 And as great as it is that they won the game, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:37.320 and as much as Girodmeo deserves kudos and we should, 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.840 you know, gets the gatorade bath and everybody feels good 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.440 about it, and all that's great, I don't want to 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.920 lose sight of the big picture, which is one hundred 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.440 and twenty one passing yards in twenty twenty four is 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.200 just not gonna win you very many football games. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.560 Funny, we have a big TV up here that has 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.559 Felgrin Maas on. Yeah, and I'm just watching his body 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.960 language as he's delivering what I'm sure is the same 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.520 take as you. And you were doing a lot of 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.480 the same hand motion. Oh okay, so I found that 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.400 kind of funny. But no, here my takeaway, and I'll 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.160 go back to, honestly the same thing I said after 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:07.880 they beat the Bills last year. I don't know if 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.160 you remember the take I gave after that game. Basically, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.080 most NFL teams when they play to their ceiling, whatever 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:19.800 their ceiling is, depending on how they're built, it's going 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.160 to be hard to beat a team that's playing to 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.560 its ceiling, whatever the team is. Even the worst rosters 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.040 in the league, when they play to their ceiling, they're 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:30.120 usually pretty hard to beat. What separates the great teams 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.160 from the good teams from the bad teams on top 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.839 of talent, I mean, talent's part of it, but part 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.240 of talent is consistency, and what separates the great teams 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.400 from the bad teams oftentimes in a league where talent wise, 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:43.959 there's really not that much of a difference between the 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:45.679 best teams and the worst team's top to bottom on 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.920 the roster is how often can you go out and 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.560 throw your best punch. The best teams in this league 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.760 in a seventeen game season fourteen fifteen times will give 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.839 you their best game, and they're pretty consistent with it, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.719 whereas some of the worst teams. They might have That 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.880 Patriots beat the Bills last year like that game, but 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.760 and that team was capable of that. I don't think 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.480 that team necessarily punched above its weight in that game, 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.400 but it was they they just didn't have for whatever 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.800 intangible reason. Didn't have the ability to put that effort 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.239 out consistently. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.200 So do you think this was the not to cut 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.960 you off? Because do you think this was the Patriots' 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.680 best I don't think it was their best puncause if 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.400 this is their best punches and they're gonna win four game, 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:28.599 I don't think so. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.920 I don't think it's their best punch because it's week one, 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.559 and I still think they're figuring a lot out. But 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.959 I think you saw a team that like it's I 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.000 think that's as much as you could expect from them 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.000 in week one. There were things that will and we'll 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.599 talk about during the show. Right, they' figure out the 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.040 offensive line, they'll get some guys back, The new coaching 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.800 staffs was gonna have to iron some things out. So 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.679 it's not apples for apples like that best punch take. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.880 But I remember thinking that, like this was a team 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.120 that came out first time head coach, first game, they 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.080 wanted to win for him, They wanted to make a statement. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.760 They did be knocked all off season, like they came 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:01.960 out and played this like it was their super Bowl. Yeah, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.280 and I think there's room for them to perform better, 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:08.240 but it takes a lot to bring that kind of 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.120 intensity every single week, and I'm not knocking them, like, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.080 good for them for doing it. But I, like you said, 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.320 there are going to be teams that test them more. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:17.400 That's the other thing. I don't think you got the 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.559 Bengals best bunch. Oh No, there are going to be 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.280 teams that test the more. So to me, it's a 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.679 really encouraging sign. Yeah, especially for the long term more 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.480 than short term. It's more of an encouraging sign for 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.240 the long term for the drawd Mayo, Elliot wolf Era. Yeah, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.839 but I don't know that it's indicative of, Hey, this 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:35.559 actually might be a playoff team and we all just 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:36.240 kind of missed on that. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.199 Yeah, yeah, exactly how I feel as well. I just 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.959 I worry about three things with this team, and this 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.800 is sort of my categories here that I was talking 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.959 about just a second ago. The first thing is obvious, 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.800 and that's the past protection. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:53.360 Yeah. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.559 So they gave up a forty eight percent pressure eight 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.439 against Cincinnati. That was the highest pressure rate in the NFL. 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.600 So here's what's crazy to me. Kind of goes back 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.960 to what I was just saying, they had the highest 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.720 pressure rate in the league against It was right, Yeah, 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.839 and Ramandre Stevenson had one hundred and eighteen of his 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.240 hundred and twenty yards after contact. Yeah, And I still 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:13.520 came away from that game, And I know I'm not 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.800 alone in this. I don't know how you felt, but 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.160 I still kind of came away from that game again, 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.319 worst pressure rate in the league, wanting back, had to 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.360 do almost everything after contact, and I came away saying, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:23.920 you know, it didn't go as bad as I thought 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.000 it would, so just kind of crazy to think. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.240 About, right. So that's sort of my point though, And 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:34.559 I understand that we've adjusted our expectations, and it's it's 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.120 fair that we adjusted our expectations. It's fair to the 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.000 new coaching staff that we're adjusting. They have made it 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.439 clear that they feel like they're still a year or 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.800 two away. Yeah, like they're in a rebuild. They know that. 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.680 We know that this is about, like I said earlier, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.360 laying a foundation, you know, establishing tenants like all those 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.360 types of things, and not necessarily a team that is 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.800 expected to go on some playoff run or something like that. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:03.240 We all get that. But the bar, especially specifically towards 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:07.520 the offensive line, was six feet under, like not even 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.520 on the floor, like we dug into the ground and 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.839 we put it even further under there because of what 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.720 we saw in Washington. Penalties galore, poor pass. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.559 Protection Washington, the whole summer Washington, the joint practice with 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:19.559 the Eagles, like all of it. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.679 So the fact that they lined up correctly and didn't 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.760 give up like five sacks in this game was a 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:29.599 passing grade for the offensive. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.679 Linet lined up correctly and that cover set didn't get hurt. 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.520 Right With that being said, forty eight percent pressure rate 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.280 I thought that they are run blocking was okay. Run 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.679 block win rate was twenty fourth in the league, for 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.719 what it's worth. Seattle's was twentieth, and they also ran 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.640 the ball well, so I'm not really sure how much 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:48.920 that stat necessarily matters. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.680 Kenneth Walker kind of similar back to money seams. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.360 But let's stick with the pass protection because I think 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.640 that was really where their biggest issues were. Left tackle 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.480 is going to be a sore spot. They're gonna have 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.000 to live with left tackle. They're gonna have to live 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.319 with the fact that they have a rookie in Leyden 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.360 Robinson playing right guard, so he's gonna have some of 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.760 these rookie brain farts like that's just going to happen. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.439 He's gonna be inconsistent as a rookie, and that's you 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.839 gotta live with. Dad. The element that I didn't like 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.679 about this game, and some of that is in the 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.679 Leyden Robinson category. I would say of rookie in his 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:29.040 first NFL game. They allowed four free runners, four unblocked pressures. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.880 They robbed nine pressure dropbacks, and four of them were 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.920 just guys coming Scott free to the quarterback with nobody 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.559 in their way. Those ones, to me, are ones that 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.679 have to go like they have to find a way 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:45.560 to get those out of their system sooner rather than later. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:50.200 Because Jacoby Brussett's pressure to Zach Rate was extremely impressive 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.559 this week, his mobility was extremely impressive last week. That 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.760 to me, I don't know is fully sustainable. That's not 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.480 the Jacoby brres said that we've seen for most of 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.800 his career. He's not necessarily a guy that's Whodini in 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.559 the pocket, that's very good at avoiding sacks. He managed 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.400 pressure very well in this game. He deserves credit for that. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.800 We'll get to that. But the biggest thing to me 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.920 is is you can't have guys running through the middle 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.040 of the line unblocked like that. That has to get 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.800 cleaned up because you are going to have some one 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.040 on one losses across the line because you're just not 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:23.840 very talented in certain spots. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.040 Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you one hundred percent. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:27.240 I know. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.640 Scott Peters talked today about some of those free rushers 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.440 and said some of it was, you know, sometimes guys 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.640 are coming through, you're throwing hot whatever, but they The 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.200 one that that gets me was the Logan Wilson who 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.120 came up the middle. A couple of things just but 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.280 the one really blew up cover set, right, he got 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.360 up a little slow. It's yeah, that that's kind of 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.880 what when I say, oh, it went better than we thought, 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.000 even though it didn't go well, it's like because I 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:51.840 was kind of I wasn't sure it's cover set was 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:53.440 going to make it through the game. Yeah, and that's 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.160 as close as you got. I think if they can 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.360 just keep Jacoby wever Set healthy, it's not even keeping clean, 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.880 just just not allowed those teams to tee off on him. Sure, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.040 that's kind of that has to be the baseline for 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.000 this group, and they weren't able to do that completely 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:07.560 on Sunday. 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.800 Yeah, So the scheme that Cincinnati was using a lot 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.800 to get pressure, and I'm sure that Seattle is going 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.800 to do the same because the Seahawks disguise pressure better 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.480 than anybody. They were dropping their defensive ends off the 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.200 line of scrimmage. Most of the time it was Sam 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.320 Hubbard and let Henderson rush, and so they drop their 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.080 defensive end out of the out of the rush, he 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.120 would drop into coverage and then Logan Wilson or a 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.760 linebacker would come blitzing up the middle of the line. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.120 And so those are called replacement pressures where one guy's 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.400 replacing another guy in the coverage structure, and it just 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.600 is post nap communication, right, It's having active eyes and 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:48.000 pass protection. So what ended up happening a lot is 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.800 on when when Robinson were blocking the same guy like 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.040 they would they would have two on one and then 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.240 they didn't have anybody on the back or coming up 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.440 through the middle of the line. Sometimes the bat the 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.600 running back was involved, sometimes it wasn't. That sometimes can 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.120 confuse things as well. You know what I was thinking 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.560 about the other day, same totally off a kind of 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.680 on topic off topic, like what if I got like 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.920 a whiteboard and just like start and like drew things. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.640 On the white saying that for a long time. That 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:15.080 you should do. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.000 Because you know, it's a little hard for us to 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.760 get like you know, wait, hang on, I think we 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.880 have whiteboard back then, not like a big one, like 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:24.240 just like a little handheld one. 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.400 Yeah, I'll make sure you guys get one. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.400 Yeah, that'd be cool, right, because it's hard for us 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.480 to pull up the actual play like the film. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.600 We did that once yea towards the cand Yeah. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.440 So then we can. We'll do a whiteboard. That's a 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.240 good idea. Anyways, So they ran a lot of those 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.120 what are called creeper pressures, which means that you have 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.320 this the crowd. The defensive structure looks like it's a 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.320 normal structure, looks like they're just playing normal defense. It's 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.000 not covers, it's not cover zero, it's not any of that. 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.200 It's just a normal defense. But what ends up happening 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.480 is somebody that you're expecting the pass rush drops in 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.520 someone who you're expecting to drop blitzes. Right, so you 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.840 switch places with those two guys. You did that a lot. 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.680 Cincinnati did that a lot. This, Baltimore, Seattle scheme is 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.320 gonna do that a lot too. With McDonald too, though. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.520 Those are the ones that got the Patriots. They they 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.119 were confused a little bit on who was taking the 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.080 unblocked guy or the unexpected rusher. That's gonna be big 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.800 for them this week again. They gotta clean those things up. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.760 I still feel as though they can get there with 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.040 this offensive line. Left tackle again is gonna be a 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.440 big concern, Like that's always week in and week out. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.560 You're gonna have to help, You're gonna have to scheme 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.040 around it, you're gonna have to do different things. But 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:37.240 if they can get themselves protected when they bring unexpected rushers, 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.400 then then I think they'll be okay. The second thing 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:44.480 on my list, This one's big to me, and it 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:50.280 goes back to the Browns, the Niners, the Rams, the 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.640 Miami Dolphins, the Green Bay Packers, the teams that run 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:54.840 this offensive system. 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:55.240 Yeah. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.959 One of the big hallmarks of this system is marrying 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.000 the run game with play action. And the run game 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.440 you're gonna run it thirty times a game, but a 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.480 big reason why you're running it so much is to 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.359 actually set up the passing game. You're gonna set up 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.240 play action explosives through the running game. So the Patriots 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.480 were able to run the ball. Yes, they ran for 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.760 one hundred and seventy yards as a team, they ran 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:22.600 for one hundred and thirty eight with their running backs. 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.000 If you want to take the scrambles out from jacobyber set, 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.920 they ran the ball well. On five play action play 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:35.000 action dropbacks, they only had twenty six yards. That's five 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.880 yards attempt. How about they only had five play action 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.440 drop back They only had five, and they only averaged 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.720 five yards per attempt off of them. Just for comparison, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.840 when Jacob Brisett was in this offense in Cleveland in 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.200 twenty twenty two, he averaged over eight yards per pass 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.040 attempt off of play action. So when you have a 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.639 team that wants to be run first, that wants to 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.800 build everything off the run game, it's big with that 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.160 schematically that the play action pass game works. And when 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.240 you also have a team that doesn't necessarily have great 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.960 receivers on the outside, Like if you're a team like 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:07.960 Cincinnati and you have Chase and you have Higgins and 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.639 all these guys on the outside, you don't need to 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.600 run play action because those guys are just gonna win 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.119 on routes right, Like, they're just gonna get open. The 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:19.399 Patriots need to scheme separation. They need to scheme guys open. 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.080 And if they can't scheme guys open through play action, 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.560 then they're gonna be porked. Then they're gonna be thrown 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.320 for one hundred and fifty yards a game. So they're 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:31.000 gonna have to figure out ways. Whether it's pass protection related, 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.400 which I have one thing on that, or if it's 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.920 just Jacob Brissett, if it's the receivers, whatever the issues 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.400 were that made it so that they couldn't get play 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.840 action going. They need to be a better play action 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.680 a much better play action passing team next week and 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:46.359 moving forward. 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:50.720 Yeah, we've talked about this since March, Yeah, since January, Like, 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.520 this is what it's gonna be. They're big plays. Their 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.480 ability to push the ball down the field, their ability 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.600 to pick up chunks is going to come off play 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:58.760 action more than anything else. 0:19:59.040 --> 0:19:59.240 Yep. 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.840 So so if they I can't do that, this so 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.600 what I said at the beginning, right, this was their 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.600 best punch I said for week one. You know you're 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.359 gonna build on it. If they can't build on the 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:09.800 play action game, they're not going anywhere. 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.560 Yeah, agreed, So the one thing I just add to that, 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.879 then I'll go to my next thing. They used Caden Wallace. 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.400 I want to call it sixteen excluding Niel downs because 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:20.919 the two of them were kneel downs. Right, So they 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:24.680 use Caden Wallace as a tackle eligible sixteen times in 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:29.280 this game. They threw one pass with Caden Wallace on 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.760 the field. If you ask me, when you have a 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.720 bad offensive line and you can't drop back pass because 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.120 you can't pass protect, why wouldn't you try to push 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.359 the ball down the field with six offensive linemen on 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.960 the field, right, Like that goes hand in hand to me. Now, 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.639 do I know how many times Jacoubersett checked out of 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.480 a pass into a run or No? I don't know 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.840 the answer to that, right, that could have happened a 0:20:54.920 --> 0:21:00.200 couple of times. But that, to me, is there that's 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.919 their answer, Like, let's go six to seven man protection. 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.560 Why don't you put Candaen Wallace on the field. Maybe 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.960 you leave the back endto Blitzkin, maybe you leave the 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.520 tight end in Also, now you have seven guys in 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.520 pass protection, you send a couple guys into the raws. 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:16.920 Too many because if you're leaving the back in with 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.159 Kayden Walls and a tight end. You only two receivers, 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.000 now you would do one or the other. Oh, put 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:21.800 the back and the tight end. 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.200 Someone's got to do be the checked out, right, So 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:25.960 if you want the tight end to be the checkdown, fine, 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.280 If you want the back to be the tight the checkdown, fine, 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:33.000 it doesn't necessarily matter which one. The point being, that's 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.880 how I feel like they can actually generate some deep 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:40.560 pass attempts is by six seven man protections, play action 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:44.280 off of the run game, load up the protection, send 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.040 two guys down the field and hope somebody gets open. 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.120 And then eventually, you know, if that works enough times 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.560 you leave Kaden Wallace out in the flat and oh yeah, 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:53.480 he runs for a chunk. 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:55.600 I'm good with that. I'm good with that, you know, 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.440 I'm I'm all for like a little trickery. But the 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:02.359 big thing is is that drop back passing standard like 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:04.600 five man protect drop back passing is going to be 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.159 tough for this football team. They're gonna have to do 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.560 it on third down. You hope that it's like third 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.320 and five and they can get six yards and we 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:11.920 keep playing. 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:15.760 Well, that's if they did one thing really well in 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:20.119 Week one that I do think can translate. Yeah, moving forward, 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:23.600 they did an excellent job of staying ahead of schedule. Yeah, 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.600 because we've seen the past years, right, second and eight 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:28.479 are off of penalty first and fifteen. 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.520 Well, the big thing was the lack of penalties. It's 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:32.000 like that, it's a huge to contribute to that. 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.600 No, but even even on first down, so they they're average. 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.320 I have the number somewhere here. I know the rankings. 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:42.440 They were eleventh in the NFL in average yards to 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.960 go on second down in week one. This was before 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.679 Monday Night football, but you get the idea. Here we go. Yep, 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.800 first down, their average distance to go is nine point 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.560 seven yards, so that they were actually helped by penalties 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.880 rather than hurt. Second down average distance to go seven 0:22:57.920 --> 0:22:59.800 point three. That was tied for tenth in the league. 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.119 So they were top ten in the league in yards 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:06.520 gained on first down third down six point one yards 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.960 to go. That was the fourth shortest distance in the NFL. 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.920 They stayed ahead of schedule, and the run game was 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.040 a big part of that. But they stayed ahead of schedule. 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.600 They didn't take negative plays, they didn't take penalties, they 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.000 took what the defense was giving them on early downs 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.959 to set up manageable third downs. That is why they 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.639 had as much success as they did, and that is 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:27.520 something I actually think can carry over. And if they 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.720 are going to continue to build offensively, I don't think 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:34.160 it's going to do they need to add more chunk plays, yes, yeah, 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.760 but I don't know that that's going to make as 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:40.919 much of a difference as just consistently staying on schedule. 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.160 And by the way, credits to the defense. The Bengals 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:47.040 actually had better had shorter distances to go on second 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.960 and third down than the Patriots and converted almost ten 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.159 percent less of the first downs. Yeah, so the defense 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:53.240 did well too. I just want to mix that in. 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:53.879 But no, they did. 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.720 They did a great job of staying on schedule, not 0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.840 taking penalties, picking up legitimate game on first down, and 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:01.600 that really helped them. 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.520 Yeah. It just if you watch all these offenses that 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:06.560 do this at a high run, this scheme at a 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:08.640 high level. You know, I'm you know, I'm not gonna 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:15.080 wax poetic about Kyle Shanahan too much, but Shanahan, Lafleoor, McVeigh, Stefanski, 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.320 so much of what they do well is play action, 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:23.080 and they just generate these big, big chunks off of 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.520 play action because they dress it up to marry it 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:27.680 to the run game. It all looks the same to 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:30.280 the defense, and then it doesn't, you know, it doesn't 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.320 end up playing out the same. So that's gonna be big. 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.040 This goes hand in hand with my third point. I 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.640 thought Jacobbers said played really well in this game. He's 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.119 on my upslist. Okay, I thought he played really well 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.320 in this game. He managed pressure extremely well. Not a 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.840 lot of quarterbacks with a forty eight percent pressure rate 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.040 keep their head on their shoulders. Yeah, like that can 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:53.919 sometimes cause a lot of chaos like that, turnovers sped up, 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.320 all that kind of stuff. The one thing that I 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.520 nitpicked a little bit about this film, what jacobber said, 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.600 was a lack of aggressiveness pushing the ball down the field. 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:04.840 I asked Van Pelt about this, and I'll get to 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.400 that in a second. I thought he gave a good 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:12.440 answer to it. But just statistically, he attempted two passes, 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:16.600 not over twenty yards, over fifteen yards in the entire game. 0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:21.480 Two passes over fifteen the entire game. He only threw 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.920 past the sticks thirty three percent of the time. Isn't 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:25.320 that wild? 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:27.920 Thirty three percent of the time passed the sticks? Yeah, 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.560 I mean I think some of that though, doesn't some 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.080 of that have to be just the pressure he was facing? 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:34.879 How many opportunities did he really hear? Some of it 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:35.880 was pushed the ball down. 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:37.639 But there was probably three or four times on the 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.200 film where I felt like he could have and passed 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:44.040 up those opportunities. That's what Van Pelt I asked him 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.160 about this morning, and he said that it was more 0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:51.000 about game situation. He mentioned a third down play in 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.440 the red zone that I posted to my Twitter circling 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.320 Jalen Polk. He was open on the play if you 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.760 guys want to just look at it, But was that 0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.320 the one you sent me? Yeah, there's three open guys 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:03.720 for touchdowns, and he doesn't throw any of the routs. 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:08.000 He said, in that situation that you have a field goal, like, 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.160 you have three points, you have the lead, Like, that's 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:14.560 more just about risk reward at that point. And I 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.040 can kind of live with that answer, like I understand 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.560 where they're coming from with that, But the point being, 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.080 in future weeks, as soon as even maybe Sunday, you 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:28.240 can't afford to pass up opportunities for more points, right, 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.280 Like you aren't going to be able to win games 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:35.200 scoring sixteen points every single week. So his lack of 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:39.159 Jacoby's lack of aggressiveness or like lack of willingness to 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.680 push the ball into some tighter windows down the field. 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.159 He really managed this game. Yeah, and that you can 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.560 say that as a positive, and you can also look 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.480 at some of the negative sides of that as well. 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.280 I mean, I think you saw one why he's starting 0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.560 over Drake May and just why they brought him in 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.119 big picture, like how he fits in the mold of 0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.680 what they're trying to do. I thought he was calm, 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.240 I thought he was controlled. The big surprise for me 0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.200 was what he did with his legs. Not a guy 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.040 that you think of is really being that effective as 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.760 a runner. But scrambled four times three for first downs, 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.080 was able to extend some plays and get throws off 0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:16.760 on the run. Nothing over the top, nothing you know, explosive. 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.600 But he didn't cost him the game, right. He was 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.439 a net neutral quarterback. You know how much I love 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.600 that term. That was textbook net neutral quarterback. They didn't 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.080 win the game because of him. But they didn't lose 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:27.959 the game because of them, and they were more concerned 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:29.359 with the second thing there than the first thing. 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.800 Yeah, we'll see if that holds up, Like, if they're 0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:35.359 able to do that at a high level like that, 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.240 that's tough. Last little nitpick, and then we can do 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:39.920 our three up, three down, and we'll open up the 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.360 phone lines and everything. Yeah, little nitpick. 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:45.720 What would it be? Would a Patriots win be without 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:46.400 Evan nitpicking? 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.200 Yeah? He gotta nippick some things because these are things 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.639 that I just they gotta be better at. Yeah, they 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.560 gotta stack these things. They have a good they laid 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.280 a good foundation. But the foundation of the house isn't 0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:58.240 the the finished. 0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.119 You were right last year, Mac Jones through for three 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.560 hundred yards. I came all in here, all excited, and 0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.520 you just tore them a new one and you were 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.879 right about that pick away. But the foundation to take 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.359 a victory lap on that all week, the foundation of 0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.760 the house is there. Yeah, we see the I see 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.320 the vision. I see the foundation. 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:19.040 Now we're talking about like the sub zero appliances right 0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.720 like in the Viking stoves, Like let's get the fancy 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.040 stuff going now. Yeah, right, Like that's what we're talking. 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:25.640 About, Drake May. I think you're more just talking about 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.159 the foundations up. Now, let's get like walls and doors 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:28.720 and windows. 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.640 Yeah, you're probably right, that's probably better. Let's get those 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.040 nice windows, little tint. 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:35.760 On the foundation. You build a house on top of 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:36.280 the foundation. 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.440 Well I know that, but I was probably two steps in. 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:40.960 That's what I'm saying, like there's another step in between there. Yeah, 0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.360 you're right, So let's meet Drake. Drake May. Is that 0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.320 when you're wheeling the seventy five inch TV with surround sound, 0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.800 you know, speakers built into the couch, you got the 0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.520 fridge built into the couch. This is a good take 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.640 you can get from like the great couches you can 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.080 get from Bobs's count I should have just segued right 0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.800 into that read, but tried. I gotta get I gotta 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.840 get my thought out first before I forget it. Books. 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.120 The Run Game. Loved the Run Game. Loved what Remandre 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:14.240 did there. They were overly simplistic in this game. And 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.000 I'll give it to them that it was week one, 0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.040 so maybe this was just let's get this out there. 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:24.240 We're not ready for Alex van Pelt. You know, graduate 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:28.280 level course, yet we're still an intro level classes right now. 0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.040 But a lot of the situations I felt like where 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:36.240 Remandre had to truly create yards after contact were because 0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.360 of the lack of like bells and whistles and eye 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:42.120 candy in this offense. They were duo, gap, duo whatever 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:43.840 you want to call it, Like double teams on the 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.800 inside and we're just coming right at you right and 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.400 that that can work, especially when you have a really 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.680 good running back like Remandre who's really good at creating 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.200 guards after contact. But some of the things I would 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.840 like to see moving forward a little bit more motion. 0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.800 Like the one thing that you see all game long 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.960 under duo concepts, the corner to the place side was 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.280 just like sitting there unblocked right, you could see it. 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.360 Remandre was really good at breaking that tackle like that 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.000 was a big part of his yards after contact totals 0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:17.120 was breaking poor Dax Hill like couldn't tackle the guy right. 0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:19.880 If you add like a little bit of like jet 0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.080 or orbit to that side of the field, Now Dax 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.640 Hill's got a widen at the snap and he kind 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.520 of gets out of that gap a little bit by 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.920 the motion. Like these are the little things that I 0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.480 just would like to see when you turn on For example, 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:36.720 Seattle's run game from last week. They had a good 0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.120 running game too with Kenneth Walker. There's a lot more 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:43.600 complexity to their run game. It's a lot the design 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.320 of it is a lot more sophisticated. This was old 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.040 school football from Alex van Pelt. This was lined up 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.480 duo blocks on the inside were running downhill. Ask you 0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.240 and you can't stop us. That's cool like that. I 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.280 like that mentality. I like all of that. That's not 0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.000 going to get it against better defensive lines, Like you 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.320 try to do that against the Jets in a couple 0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.840 of weeks and you just try to run over Quinn Williams, Like, 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.240 good luck. Like that's not going to happen. It's not 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.440 going to work. They have to disguise things or you know, 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.080 motion things a little bit better, design it a little 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.560 bit more sophisticated. Also, like can we not seven step 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.320 drop from under center anymore? Please? Like what come back 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.200 to us, Alex vanpel This isn't nineteen ninety one, Like 0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:26.360 can we throw that stuff out the door? I just 0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.200 felt some of this thing, the stuff that they did 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:30.760 was a little archaic. It was a little outdated. 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.680 Well it's weak one. Like you said, they're building up 0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:33.520 towards something. 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.040 All right, am? I is that good enough? 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:35.240 Like? 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.840 Like did I say enough positive things and negative things? 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.480 Like I didn't want to be too negative? Like they 0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.520 did win the game like last year, at least they 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:42.680 didn't win the game, you. 0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.360 Know, right? Yeah, yeah, okay, that's fair? 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.280 All right, good enough? Okay, let's do three up, three down? 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:48.680 Right? 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:51.800 You can start your number one up. 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.960 My number one up was I. I had like ties 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.600 for number one, but I guess I'll go. I'll go 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.520 with my one for defense. I'd won offense one defense. 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.520 I think you're gonna start offense. So I was ke 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:04.000 On White? 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:04.920 What gave you that? Away? 0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:06.239 Yea? 0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.920 Keon White was so freaking good in this game. Yeah, 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.920 And I was one of the people sitting here saying, 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:13.440 I don't know how they're gonna generate an early down 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:14.840 pass rush. I don't know how they're gonna generate a 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.400 pass rusch nowt blitzing. I like Keon White, but I 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:21.080 don't know that he's that like dynamic pass rusher. Wrong wrong, wrong, 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.800 wrong wrong. At least based on that game, he was 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:28.640 rushing for different spots the toolbox has gotten much deeper, 0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.360 much deeper, I think than it was last year. We 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.760 saw a little more speed, Yeah, more quickness from him. 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.280 I feel like two and a half sacks almost under 0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.760 sells the effort he ultimately had, the impact he put 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.800 in on this game. If they're gonna be the top 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.400 ten unit we thought they might be when they had 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.920 Matthew Judon, when they had Christian Barmore, if they're gonna 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.520 get back to that, this is the kind of player 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:50.560 they need ke On White to be. 0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.720 Yeah. I couldn't agree more. He is now a Tuesday player, 0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.320 which is good for the Patriots because they needed somebody 0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.880 on the defensive front to develop into a Tuesday player 0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.560 without Christian Barmore and after the Judean trade. To me, 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.400 he is now the guy that other teams are gonna 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.040 have to worry about, Like they're gonna have to game 0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.400 plan for him. Now they're gonna have to have him 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.479 circled in the game plan meetings. 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:13.000 Uh. 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:14.960 The one that stood out to everybody, and I'm sure 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.200 it stood out to you as well, was the rush 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.960 on Trent Brown on his first sack. Like that, to me, 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.160 is not something he had in his back. 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.320 That's exactly what toolbox. 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.840 Yeah. Yeah, the double swipe rushing from a two point 0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.360 stance up on his feet, go right around him. I'm 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:34.080 still hesitation in there inside. Has he double swipe go 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.360 right around the tackle sack like that? That was not 0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.840 in his his wheelbox, his wheelbox, his toolbox last year. 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.160 So that that was some of the things I wrote 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.200 about Key on going into the season. I had a 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.040 conversation with him about his summer and some of the 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:53.200 things that he had talked about were working on that specifically, 0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.360 like can I be a better stand up edge rusher 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:57.960 because he knows that he can rush with his hand 0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.160 in the dirt over the guard. He's trying to be 0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.440 better in that regard outside the tackle, and he was. 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:04.800 He was on that play. 0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:06.080 Yeah, he was really good. 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:07.160 He was nine. 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.000 Number two, okay, number one was Remondra. Yeah, yeah, I 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.360 had him his number one two, Remondre. 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.759 This was like Marshawn Lynch beast mode type stuff, like 0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.759 just running over dudes, joking dudes. The rush that he 0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.600 had on the last drive of the game where there's 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.480 two guys in the backfield and have him dead to 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.800 rights and he somehow gets out is unreal, like just 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:32.080 an unbelievable run one hundred and eighteen after contact, ten 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.560 forced miss tackles in this game just phenomenal. I mean 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.000 one of his best game of was a pro. 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.560 Would you say he made a difference, made a difference 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.719 in this one? Certainly you would say the running back 0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.080 made a difference. I just want to get it on 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.960 the record. Okay, he did. Yeah, he was really freaking 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.600 good in this game, which I'd say, Look what happens 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.719 when this guy comes in like rested. Yeah, look what 0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:52.960 happens when this guy is ready to go and he's 0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:54.680 gonna take hits over the course of the season. He's 0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.040 not gonna be that all year. But look what happens 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:58.560 when you give this guy a chance to be more 0:34:58.640 --> 0:34:59.480 than just a bowling ball. 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:00.480 Ye, your point? 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.040 I mean game breaker yesterday he had a veteran rest 0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:03.880 day and practice. 0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.640 Love that. Love that, Like he's your belcow running back. 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.160 He's gonna get the ball a ton this year. He 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.799 doesn't need to practice on Wednesdays. Like love it. Let 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.440 him watch practice from the side, Give the reps to 0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.560 Kevin Harris or Terrell Jennings on the practice squad, and 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.920 let's roll on Sunday reminder. I mean this was his 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:20.719 best game as. 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.040 A pro, So I will say this now now, and 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:24.799 you know I have to bring it back to this. Yeah, 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.560 he had including his he had three catches in this 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.120 game as well, so you factor those in. 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:31.880 Oh, here comes the volume issues. 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:33.960 He had twenty eight touches in this game. 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:34.439 Yeah. 0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:39.560 Last year, Christian McCaffrey, where's my I gotta find the 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.000 number here? Sorry, Last year Christian McCaffrey led the NFL 0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:46.359 in touches or at least touches per game. Yeah, which 0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:50.200 was at I thought I had it written here. It 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.160 was like twenty one to twenty two touches per game. Yeah, 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.200 so this was an excessive, excessive workload from ramondre Stevenson. Yep, 0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.360 how do you balance it now to make sure you 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.680 keep getting that guy and he doesn't get worn down 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.400 too early without kind of handicapping your offense by not 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.440 having him. Now, Antonio Gibson went into this game banged up. 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.840 So and it's also the kind of game this is 0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.160 also part of that take. There are gonna be games 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.840 when you want to give rimanre Stevenson thirty touches because 0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.319 it's a close game. He's feeling it, you're gonna ride 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.359 him to the win. You want to have the opportunity 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.960 to do that. If this week that off, the game 0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:27.800 maybe doesn't set up like that. Can you get Antonio 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.680 Gibson some more work, whatever. But honestly, that game, to 0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.680 me is exactly why I feel so strongly about this, 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.200 because when he's not coming off a thirty touch game, 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.000 when he's not worn down by Thanksgiving, and he can 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.040 actually play his level of ball, he's a game breaker. 0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.760 But that's just the nature of the running back position. 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.840 This is something that the Titans went through with Dereck Henry, 0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.440 the Cowboys went through a Zeke. Pretty much any dominant 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.520 running back in the last ten years had this kind 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.080 of experienced. Nick Jeffs another one. How do you make 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.920 sure you're getting the most out of these guys over 0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.640 the course of a seventeen game season, not just week 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:02.480 to week. That's what the Patriots are gonna have to 0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.000 figure out now, because as we saw again, this isn't 0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.520 to take anything away from his performances to emphasize it. Yea, 0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.360 that is how important of a player he is, and 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:10.800 that is what he can give you when he's on 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.279 and as the rest of the offense picks up and 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.680 you can kind of supplement what he's your compliment what 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.040 he's doing with the pass game, or maybe get Antonio 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.080 Gibson going that will only help. But he's a game breaker. 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:23.120 You got to take care of him. 0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:27.479 So just two things quickly. Yeah, Number one on that point, 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.640 if they're gonna run as much duo blocking as they did, 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:36.239 they just straight downhill man demand power running, then I 0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.200 do feel like Kevin Harris or Terrell Jennings can just 0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.040 do that just fine. Yeah, in a game like for 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.719 five to ten carries a game like maybe that's just 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.920 not Gibson's style of play, Like I don't think he 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.600 looked at home running those types of concepts in this 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:53.040 game last week. I know he was banged up. I 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.279 wouldn't mind like certain games where you call one of 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.399 those guys up from the practice squad for the week 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.240 and maybe eight of the ca go to Kevin Harris 0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.600 that week instead of att to Remandre. Just doing the 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.640 quick math and sample size alert like one game is 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.000 not how we should be doing this. But that's four 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.799 hundred and seventy six touches for the entire Sea. 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.319 So I pulled it up. McCaffrey actually missed a game 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.120 last year, it still led the NFL and touches. Yeah, 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.080 so what was the number you had for seventy six? 0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:22.560 So McCaffrey last year led the NFL with three thirty nine. Yeah, 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.759 where I mean, obviously he's not gonna get twenty eight 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.080 every single right, But so McCaffrey last year twenty one 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:31.080 touches game. But the point is, don't let it be Okay, 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.040 We're just gonna keep going till he gets hurt, Like, yeah, 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.720 try to get that number down while he's still effective. 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:40.160 Yeah, at number two, there's you. You made fun of 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.960 me about running backs mattering, right, Yeah, So there's only 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:44.719 like a handful of running backs in the league that 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:48.399 I would say truly, Matt. You've always said there's two McCaffrey, yeap. 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:49.480 Who was the other one? 0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:50.400 Camara? 0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:54.000 Camara? Yeah, McCaffrey Kamara, And you only. 0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.480 Said they mattered because their pass catching with Stevenson did 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:57.480 not do a lot of in this game. 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.680 I'm a pretty close to adding Saquon Barkley to that 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.919 list too, I think, especially with what he did last 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:08.279 week Againstuff, you know, with the big breakout, I mean. 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.520 Can you retroactively add Derick Henry yet? 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.000 Yeah, but like Derreck Henry like five years ago, Like, 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:15.719 I'm not going to count Dereck Henry now, I know, 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:16.000 but you. 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.279 This is how this came up. You said Derek Henry 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.120 didn't really matter, okay because he didn't catch the ball. 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.400 Yeah, you know, probably just ribbing you for that, I know, 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.719 but now, okay, So I'm willing to get three right 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:30.160 now in the league. Alvin Kamara, Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, I'm 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:34.120 almost there with putting Ramondre Stevenson on this list. I'm 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.400 almost there. Like he did a context of what this 0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.120 offense is. How can you not Yeah, he was a 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.960 one man show on Sunday. He was the offense. He 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:43.279 put the offense on his back. 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.600 If if people haven't listened to us for like a 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.400 few years, if you're new to the show, that's a 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:50.719 huge moment. Evan admitting that I just want to let like, 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.880 I don't know that there is a better way to 0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:57.400 compliment the effort Ramon Stevenson put forth the impact he 0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:01.360 had on that game than Evan saying this guy mattered. 0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:05.480 He mattered there really is. That's a big I don't 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:05.680 know that. 0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.560 Eble Ever, you might not even compliment Josh Allen that 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.880 much as much as you just complimented your Stevenson in 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:12.440 your own way. 0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.920 You know how excited I am for tonight though, Josh Allen, 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:19.719 you know it this September number three? Third up? Who 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.520 you got number three? 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:22.880 All right? So we both had one and two. Key 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.360 On White were probably gonna the same one again, Christian Zalez, 0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.440 I almost did, but I I okay. God, So Christian 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.200 Zalez has looking back at Christian Zalz's camp, Yeah, where 0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:36.200 we were like, ah, it's disappointing. We got way too 0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:37.880 care with these cornerbacks. Man. 0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:38.200 Yeah. 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.520 Remember we we figured this out with Alex Austin last week, 0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.239 like he's a fine player. We just we went into 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:46.040 camp wanting Christian Zalez to be prime to Rowritas and 0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:48.319 that was just never gonna happen, especially not in training camp. 0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.560 For him to come out and do what he did 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.719 against Jamar Chase. Was it three catches fourteen yards? 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:54.880 Right? 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.399 Yeah, in twenty routes twenty routes. Yeah, that's a hell 0:40:58.440 --> 0:40:59.120 of a performance. 0:40:59.320 --> 0:40:59.480 Yep. 0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.360 And he's now done it against a J. Brown, against 0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:07.840 Jamar Chase, against Garrett Wilson, Tyre Tyreek Hill. Yeah for 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:09.960 a quarter. Yeah, he comes out and does it against 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.239 DK Metcalf next week. Oh boy, Like here we go. 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.520 What a validating performance from him. And it kind of 0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:17.960 like I said with Keon White, and I said this 0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.759 before the season, if they want to get back to 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:22.759 the kind of defense they were supposed to be with 0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.800 Christian Ballmore in the lineup, with Matthew Judon in the lineup, 0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.480 it's gonna be about the sophomores taking the year two 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:32.359 jump and can Christian Zalees or Keon White turn into 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.080 blue chip players? They both looked like blue chip players 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:35.520 on Sunday. 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.000 Yeah, that's a great point because to me, with Christian 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.239 Zales and I I would have him as like three 0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:41.080 b you know, you. 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.160 Know I'm gonna do one more. I'm gonna put ke 0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.320 White Christiansolz together. Is the defensive sophomores. Ye'll give me 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:47.920 one more, Okay, So I'm gonna put them together. I 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.880 think the thing that stands out the most about Christian Gonzales. 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.640 We've been covering the team now since eighteen and let's 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:55.960 take the OG's out. 0:41:56.080 --> 0:42:00.759 Like Brady Gronkowski, Edelman like the Stefan gil More, like 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:02.520 all the guys we covered in the first couple of 0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:05.719 years of our careers on the beat the Patriots in 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:10.919 this like post Brady era, Gonzalez is like the first 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.320 guy to me where I look at him and I'm like, 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.960 that's a that's a blue chip player. Like the athleticism, 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:21.240 the movement skill and coverage, like that's what it should 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.200 look like when you hit on a first round pick, 0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:25.520 Like I don't think they were really there with their 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.640 other first round picks in that time frame, you know, 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:32.160 obviously cold strange Mac Jones, like those guys didn't feel 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.720 like they truly had a blue chip player on their hands. 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:39.240 Christian Gonzalez feels like that. The way that he plays 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:43.920 feels like that. He had some extremely high level coverage 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.719 reps in Manton Man on Jamar Chase in this game, 0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.560 you mentioned the gauntlet that he's played so far, and 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.080 he's really gone head toe to toe with all those 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:53.399 guys and held his own. 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.400 Yeah, so he's absolutely that's what he by the way, 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.200 he used that term with me this week, the Gauntlet. 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:00.880 Yeah, it's incredible and I know it's you know, the 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:02.920 league and one this week that's the way the league is. 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.320 You know, the Garrett Wilson and then I Yuk probably 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:06.800 with the forty, like it's gonna be everyone. 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:10.160 But that's why. But that's why it's so important that 0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.360 he become this level of player because if you have 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:15.480 somebody that can shut those guys down, it's it's the 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:19.440 ultimate like una reverse card in this modern NFL because 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:23.239 everything runs through that receiver. Everything runs whatever offense it is, 0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.920 and it's gonna look different, but everything runs through that 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:30.000 receiver in the modern NFL. If you can erase that guy, 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.759 and this defense too, everything this defense is at its best. 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.680 We just talk about this all the time. Evan. You 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.880 put step On Gilmour over here on their on one 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:40.800 of their top receivers, and then you can play the 0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:42.680 rest of the game ten on ten over here. Yeah, 0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:47.080 And that's advantage Patriots every time. And Christian Zales gives 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.239 them a chance to play games ten on ten defensively. 0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.799 Some of his coverage snaps that he has and Man, 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:56.520 I to keep referencing my own Twitter, but I know 0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.000 people might want to see it visually. 0:43:58.040 --> 0:43:59.400 You're going off in the locker room today about he 0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:00.840 you don't tweet these anymore. 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.920 Not all the time, but the individual ones on mondays, 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.600 I try to tweet some of my favorites from watching 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.480 the film. He had a rep against Chas and man 0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:13.719 to man coverage where you be hard pressed to find 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:15.840 a better man to man rep than that one. And 0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:19.040 the hip swivel that he had to change directions at 0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:21.600 the top of the route was utterly disgusting. 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:23.439 Well, that's like, that was the whole thing in the draft. 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.680 We both got all hot and bothered after the combine 0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:27.439 looking at that and saying, the way this guy moves 0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.520 is different. The way he moves around the field, that 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.520 way he changes direction, do he changes speeds? Do he 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:34.680 flips his hips? The way he goes from the back 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.400 pedal to the sprint, like it's just all so flut. 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.280 He looks like he's ice skating out there. It's awesome 0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:40.680 and it's great to see him back to it after 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.400 missing so much time last year. You went to one thing, 0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.040 and I know we've been talking about him for a while, 0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:45.480 so we'll move on here after this. But the one 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:46.880 thing that really stood out to me, and I know 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.440 he ran well the forty and everything, like he's a 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:53.000 lot faster in a straight line than I thought he 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.759 was coming out. And I loved him coming out, as 0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:59.040 you know, But like he's even faster than I thought, 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.040 Like it is effortless for him to carry a vertical route, 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:03.560 Like he doesn't even need to really try. 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:05.640 Yeah, some of the time, it's incredible. All right, let's 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:10.000 move on my third star, my third up, Jacoby Brissette. 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:13.680 I just thought that we have seen so many quarterbacks 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:18.440 over the last couple of years, mainly one sorry to 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.239 you know, throw the boy in Jacksonville under the bus, 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.920 But Trevor, when you have a pressure rate like that 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.919 forty eight percent, yeah, how many times have we seen 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.800 the game just completely unravel on mac Jones in that situation. 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.080 Kobe Brissett was the game manager that the Patriots needed 0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.080 the last couple of years, right Like he he did 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.080 what they were hoping mac Jones was going to be 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:44.359 able to do for them. Didn't turn the ball over, 0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.680 no real catastrophic plays, like even the sack he took 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.320 was like a half yard behind the line of scrimmage. 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.160 His legs were a big impact in this game. Three 0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.880 first downs with scrambles. I would have liked to have 0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:57.719 seen him push the ball down the field a little 0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:00.320 bit more. That was my nitpick. But in Jim Mineral, 0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:03.440 he gave the game what it needed this week and 0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:06.200 he was really, really good. I thought that this was 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:08.640 the best of Jacoby Brissett in a lot of ways. 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.800 Yeah, we talked about it before, but he was exactly 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:12.560 what they needed him to be. Yeah, he didn't lose 0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:14.600 them the game, and I think that's what you that's 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:15.480 what really stands out. 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.319 All right, you had one more right, yeah? 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:18.120 Special teams. 0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.600 Oh yeah, I thought, see this is why I thought 0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:22.319 you were going to take special teams. So I went 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:23.760 with like, okay, yeah. 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.200 Special teams. Well, I didn't want to do the thing 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:30.000 where it's like, oh the defensive sophomores, you know, too 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.680 complicated special teams. 0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:32.800 So it starts. 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:34.839 It starts with in your head, it starts with del 0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.520 Pettis leaving early on the kickoff and you're like, oh boy, 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:37.920 here we go. 0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:39.919 It's going to be fifteen flags. Yeah. 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:46.520 After that, masterclass special teams. Master Jeremy Springer excellent in 0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:50.239 every phase, kickoff, kick return, punting, punt returny of the 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.400 long snapper, forcing a fumble. Brendon Schooler was great. Bryce 0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:55.960 bearing are No touchbacks three out of five inside the twenty. 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:58.279 How nice is it not holding your breath on a 0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.560 thirty two yard field goal? Joey Slide Those three for 0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.439 three hit some big kicks there late in that game. 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.719 They're if they're gonna win these games, they're gonna need 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:09.919 to win on the margins. They're going to need better. 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.480 They're gonna need to be better in the parts of 0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.239 the game that the teams maybe don't focus on as much. Yeah, 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.279 that's special teams. They don't win that game without that 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:21.080 kind of special teams effort, agreed, And if they're gonna 0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:22.960 continue to win games, they need to continue to weigh 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.120 up to play that way on special teams. 0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.760 This is a week where I'm gonna allow, without any snark, 0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.000 allow you to that sounded like smart to get that 0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:35.200 sound to give your special teams some flowers, Like I'm 0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:38.400 gonna allow you to do it. Brendan schooler twenty two 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.160 miles an hour on the GPS, I mean that's impressive, 0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:42.080 Like that was moving. 0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:42.719 Uh. 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:47.200 They he's turning into like, you know, baby Matthew Slater right, 0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.360 Like he's not Matthew Slater. I No one's Matthew Slater. 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.080 But he's like, you know, in that category of special 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.839 teams aces. Uh, he's he might be an impact player 0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.920 in the kicking game for them this year. And then 0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.800 you also look at Bill's guy Joe Cardona. How I 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.840 on it right? How funny is that that he forces 0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.879 the fumble? Yeah? I mean, look, that's such a big 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:06.680 part of this win. 0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:07.359 Uh. 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.880 In going back to like the expectations and all that 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.160 kind of stuff, how clean they were in all three phases. 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.000 You know, the penalties were down the big you know 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.600 kind of brain farts, there were a lot of those 0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:23.080 special teams was sound throughout basically besides the Dell Pedica 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.000 jump off sides like that. It was good. It was 0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.919 good for that unit. Not gonna lie. All right, let's 0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:32.360 go to the downs. I only have two Patriots downs, 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:35.400 and then I have a wild card down the I 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.800 have to I almost did scratch. 0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:39.360 I almost did the same thing as you, but I 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:40.920 figured you were gonna do it for that third, So 0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:44.759 I did. I have two players and then just a 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.880 philosophical thing number one down the left tackles, you can 0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:52.200 just like put them together. I wanted to give Tucks 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:53.000 a corps for his zone. 0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:58.719 He deserves his own place he played. He played six 0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.839 pass plays. He gave up three quarterback pressures in six 0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.839 pass plays. Yeah too, the quarter four Vederian Lowe gave 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.719 up three himself. That most of the pressure. Four I 0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.040 had him for three. I had him for three quarterback 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:12.520 hit and two. 0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:14.520 Her next gen had him at four on sixteen. 0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:17.680 Okay, so maybe that's probably we're in the same ballpark. 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.400 Basically half the pressure came from the left tackle position alone. 0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:27.160 In terms of where it was coming from. Trey Hendrickson 0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.160 had a huge game. He had his way with those 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:33.240 two guys. It's going to be a concern moving forward 0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.080 to the point where I think we're at the point 0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:39.399 now and I want to say this and just give 0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.120 a little bit of leeway to Vidarian low because he 0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:43.440 really hadn't practiced for that. 0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:45.759 The thing I almost didn't want to put lows of 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:49.480 down because he's hurt. Yeah, he had practice, came in 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:54.799 and was not a total disaster. Where it's like the fact, 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:56.400 it goes back to what I said at the beginning, 0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.279 highest pressure rate in the league, all but two yards 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.040 on the ground, efrict contact, and you still walked away saying, man, 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.160 that could have been a lot worse right. So that's why, 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:07.520 like Garian Lowe, it was what it was to me. 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.759 It's just like the number one concern for this entire team. 0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:13.040 And we've been saying this for months, so it's nothing new. 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:16.560 Is just left tackle like that's it's that spot, whether 0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.720 it's low it's a Corps four, it's Wallace, like whoever 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:23.279 is playing that spot. Every week, it's gonna be the 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:26.320 other team's top edge rusher against your left tackle is 0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:29.480 going to be a mismatch. And that's the concern level 0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.040 that I have there. I was surprised that they didn't 0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:34.719 send a ton of help towards Vederian Lowe. I wonder 0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.759 if that chip by the running back in the preseason 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.359 that led to a sack maybe contributed to the fact 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:43.000 that maybe he doesn't like getting help, you know, like 0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:45.920 maybe that that throws him off his technique a little bit, 0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:49.360 but chipping, putting the tight end over there, putting the 0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:52.560 extra offensive lineman over there, even just like the tight 0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:54.960 end as he goes into the route, just giving a 0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.360 little bit of a bump to the pass rusher on 0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:00.240 the way by to try to slow Bowie Maffi down 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:03.840 or Trey hendrickson down last week could maybe help Adarian 0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:05.960 Low out a little bit. But when you give up 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:08.440 fifty percent pressure rate, like in terms of the overall 0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:11.160 pressure number for the Patriots, when fifty percent of it 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.360 comes from the left tackle spot, it's got to be 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:14.000 on the downs. 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:17.120 Yeah, absolutely, and it's something that there. It's probably gonna 0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.520 who didn't. Wasn't there somebody a couple of years ago? 0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:22.799 It would have been last year, because no, two years 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.080 ago we started the show, wasn't there somebody like, Oh 0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:27.480 it was Christian Barmer? Remember we retired him from ups 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:30.279 because it was just like every every week. Yeah, we 0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:32.440 might end up retiring left tackle from downs at some 0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:33.160 point this season. 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.200 You know, as an offensive line guy, it just I 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.799 can't it just it grinds my gears so. 0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.400 Much as somebody and as a guy who believes in 0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.160 doing as much as he can to help the quarterback 0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:44.880 above all else, gears too. 0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:51.520 All right, who's your number one for? Okay, Joshua, you're okay, 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:52.520 I hear what you're saying. 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.839 So yeah, it's not that he get this overall terrible game. 0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:56.200 Yeah. 0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.759 What bugged me is this is a guy that so 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:01.719 ke on White part of What was so good about 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:04.280 his game yea was he was able to be impactful 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.560 on first and second down. Maybe could be better against 0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:08.880 the run, but played eighty percent of the snaps and 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:10.759 didn't look out of place as a three down player. 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.360 If you agree with me on that. Yeah, you got 0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:14.080 to run on a little bit, but it wasn't terrible. 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:15.799 He didn't look out of place, like did he look 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:16.920 out of place as a three down guy? 0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:17.160 Right? 0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:20.120 Joshua uch is a player who is here to play 0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:22.239 on third downs? Yeah, he is here to come in 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:24.719 on third down, pin his ears back and go after 0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:28.719 the quarterback. The very crucial stretch in this game, there's 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:30.759 back to back third downs where he's one play where 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.080 he blows contained allows Joe Burrow to run out of 0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:35.839 the pocket and convert a third in I think eight. Yeah, 0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.359 and then the next third down, so they go. Joe 0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:42.600 Burrow converts it first, second, third and six, josh U 0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:45.319 j jumps off sides and then they get the third one. 0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:47.680 They pick it up on the ground. Can you come 0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:49.319 back for the less if you're josh Uja, come back 0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.560 for less money? You're betting on yourself. You know you're 0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:53.399 trying to show off that you can be this high 0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:57.879 level sub rusher, mistakes on third down is the last 0:52:57.920 --> 0:52:59.320 thing you can afford to be doing. So that just 0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:00.640 kind of stood out to me in this game. 0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:02.200 It's fair enough. You know, I had him with three 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:05.200 hurries in this game, and on one of the sacks 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.439 that was split between Bentley and and uh Keon White, 0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:10.840 it was his pressure that forced the quarterback. 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.480 Up in the box moments too. Was just again for 0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:14.640 a guy that's gonna make his money on third down, 0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:17.680 two negative third downs back to back, that it stood 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:19.319 out to fair enough. I just think if you take 0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:21.960 him out of the pass rush, it's then it's really 0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:24.960 just Keon White who was getting pressure. Yeah, yeah, I 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.000 would say big like. It's not to say they should 0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:28.560 play him less or anything. I don't mean to say that. 0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:31.560 I'm just saying that it was an observation I had. 0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:34.000 In the game. Fair enough. I won't go too long 0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:35.560 on this one because my number two down was is 0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:38.880 the downfield passing game that was non existent. I already 0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:39.360 talked about it. 0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.600 So you made me feel like I'm reaching for that, 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:43.759 you're reaching less than I am, or you're reaching more 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:47.200 than I am. Correct, Okay, all right, so yeah, that's yeah, okay, 0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:49.000 I just got to defend who cha little? Yeah, that's 0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:49.319 all right. 0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:52.680 Uh, downfield passing game. When you don't complete a single 0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:55.040 pass over fifteen yards in the air, you're on the 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:58.520 downs list for me. To me, it was mostly protection, 0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:01.600 but some of it was just Koe Wereset not wanting 0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:04.479 to really test those windows down the field. That's gonna 0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:06.880 have to change. They're gonna have to be willing to 0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:10.080 take some chances moving forward coming out of the half, 0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:13.719 and you just chuck one to Taekwan Thornton without any 0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:17.040 play action or any sort of fake or anything. It's 0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:20.000 just three step, drop, pop up and throw a go ball. 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:23.040 I just didn't care for that call either, just thought 0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:25.879 that was kind of a waste. They need to find 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.920 some ways to get the downfield passing game going, all right. 0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:29.600 So my third down is kind of along the lines 0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:32.160 with that, and it's the third quarter play calling. Yeah. 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:35.600 They got way too conservative in the third quarter. Yeah, 0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.640 And some of that I think has to do with 0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:42.680 the offensive line and Cincinnati really started turning the heat 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:46.160 up on Jacoby Wessett late in the first half, and 0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:48.560 it almost felt like they reacted to that by and look, 0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.800 you need to adjust, right, But it almost felt like 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.160 they went too into a shell their first three, so 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:55.200 that they have this lead at halftime and you know, 0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:57.279 it's like, all right, you've got the momentum, like go 0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:58.080 for the kill. Shop. 0:54:58.120 --> 0:54:59.839 Well, that was what I felt like a Taiwan play, 0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:01.399 but it was just a no chance. 0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:03.279 It was a no chance because I think it was 0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:06.080 designed to get the ball out of Ersett's hands so quickly, right. 0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:07.759 I think that was one read because he is Jaalen 0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:08.960 Pulp wide open. On the other side. 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:12.440 It's probably like a pre snap, like just pick your matchup, 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.680 which which again goes to I think they were nervous 0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:16.600 about the offensive line. 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:18.680 They got too conservative. They come out of the half 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:22.600 three and out punt Joe Cardo on a force is 0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.640 the fumble, so it's technically a new drive. Right, three 0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.160 plays field goal, so it's technically not a three and out, 0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:30.080 but it is, and they get the ball back again 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:33.520 three play. Their first would went on the books is 0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:37.000 their first three drives of the second half were twenty 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.359 yards on ten plays, and they didn't pick up one 0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:42.640 first down and they had that one quick throat deep 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:44.399 shot and then they just ran the ball a bunch. 0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.520 You have to be more varied than that, especially when 0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:49.520 you have a chance to get some breathing room. That's 0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:50.799 where I would have liked to see them go more 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:54.360 play action. That sequence bugged me. I was getting ready 0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:57.000 if like the Bengals stormed back to say, like this 0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.040 was the turning point. They came out of the locker 0:55:59.120 --> 0:55:59.960 room way too conservative. 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.360 Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. And I just 0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:06.680 the fumble three, you know, the Cardona forces the fumble, 0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.040 like I was hoping we were kind of done with those, 0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:11.719 where like the offense just immediately goes three and out 0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:14.120 after the turnover, Like it would be nice to be 0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:17.480 able to score touchdowns off of those, Like you're in 0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:20.279 plus plus territory, like not just plus territory, you're like 0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:23.800 basically yeah, like you should be able to score a 0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:27.160 touchdown from there. My last down. This is my like 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:28.000 out of the box one. 0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:29.560 I agree with you on this, and I'm happy you're 0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:30.880 saying this because I thought I was gonna have to 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:31.920 say it and you were gonna complain. 0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:38.040 It's very rare that I put not just another team's player, yeah, 0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:41.080 but another team's coach on the downs. 0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:43.719 In a coach that comes from the Shanahan McVeigh tree. 0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:46.160 Nonetheless, sort of, I'm not ready to claim him. I'm 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:49.439 worked for Sean McVeigh for like two years. 0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.480 No, I'm sorry. If you're gonna do this, you're gonna do. 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.080 This because he doesn't he doesn't run the system. He 0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:56.160 doesn't run the system. 0:56:56.719 --> 0:57:00.759 He comes from the tree. Evan, this is one of 0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:01.719 your guys. 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:05.000 Zach Taylor looking at the carr when I say this, 0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:09.879 Zach Taylor, y bum. He was a bum in this game? 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:14.200 Like what was that from Cincinnati on offense? I thought 0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:19.400 that game plan from Cincinnati offensively was terrible, like absolutely awful. 0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:21.360 And I don't usually like to like talk like this, 0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:23.840 but it just grinds my gears when you have that 0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:26.040 much talent on the offensive side of the ball and 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:29.480 you do nothing with it. Just first of all, you 0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:32.920 don't have t Higgins. Jamar Chase like supposedly has like 0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:35.680 food poisoning or something like that, and is coming off 0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:39.320 the hold in you ran the ball twelve times, bro, Like. 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:40.240 What do you do? Bro? 0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.400 The team is the Patriots are sitting in cover two, 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.280 They're sitting in too high safety. Shew, They're begging you 0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:49.040 to run the ball. They're begging you. You're just asking 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:52.240 you to run the ball. Zack Moss had six carries 0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:55.480 into light boxes in this game, which is six defenders 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:57.520 or less in the box. He had thirty yards. He 0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:00.680 was averaging five yards of carry against the Patriots light boxes. 0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:04.280 You only ran it twelve times, Zach Taylor? What are 0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:07.160 you doing? I say this all the time when I 0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:10.560 watch the Bengals offense. I think their offense is rudimentary, 0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.160 and I think their scheme is terrible. Like they don't 0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:16.840 do anything their gun, their three receiver. They run like 0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:19.520 a couple of our you know, RPOs here and there. 0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.080 And then it's just Joe Burrow cook and like save me, 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:26.160 you know, like be be my merchant, Joe Burrow. Zach Taylor, 0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:28.200 I think is the most overrated coach in the league 0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:28.760 on a good team. 0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:30.960 And and by the way, by the way, like the 0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:34.640 game management was bad too. Yeah, that weird challenge that 0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:36.760 he won but should have lost. The time out the 0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:39.560 special teams wasn't good. Why why is Charlie Jones returning 0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:41.600 all these punts? Yeah, tell him to fair catch it. 0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:43.880 Tell them to fair catch it or put somebody else 0:58:43.920 --> 0:58:46.160 in there. But Evan, this is this is what the 0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:52.200 coaches from that tree do their heads against. They are arrogant, 0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:55.640 their heads against the wall until it works, because they 0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:58.640 just think they're so smart that it has to work eventually. 0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.680 I think he is the whole thing when he got 0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:04.320 highed and remember was oh yeah, because. 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:06.840 He doesn't but he doesn't run that system. He runs 0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:11.960 a shotgun three receiver spread system in Cincinnati, basically like 0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:13.680 they think the core philosophies. 0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:14.600 He comes from that tree. 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:17.760 It's not though, he doesn't run that offense like they 0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:21.200 run the Cincinnati Bengals. It's a Tiger. They are the 0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:24.080 Cincinnati Tigers because they try to run what LSU runs. 0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:27.640 Right for Burrow got he is he in the Sean 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:31.320 McVay coaching tree, Yes or no? He coached under Sean mcgiy, 0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:33.080 so yes, so yes, so he's in the tree. They 0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:34.160 don't run the system. 0:59:34.320 --> 0:59:36.439 Look, I'll say this, it don't run the same, whether 0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:38.600 it be game planning, whether it be in game. But 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:40.480 I'm talking about the end game decision making, which he 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:42.960 definitely didn't learn under Sean McVay because they don't do that. 0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:46.760 I don't mean this to disparage draw in Mayo. I 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:49.560 really don't, but this is a guy coaching head coaching 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.960 an NFL game for the first time. It's just what 0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.640 anybody rookies. We say this all the time with rookies, 0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:56.720 like a rookie playing in his game for the first time, 0:59:57.120 --> 1:00:00.360 like you expect some growing pains. That's the thing that's veteran. 1:00:00.960 --> 1:00:05.000 Being a veteran should be an advantage. Zach Taylor and 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:11.440 his staff got absolutely pantsed by what was largely a 1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:15.320 first time coaching staff. The head coach is a first 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:18.560 time head coach. Two of the three coordinators are first 1:00:18.560 --> 1:00:26.800 time coordinators at least at the NFL level. Wow Springer, 1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:29.640 thank you. Jee Springer was a especially cos coordinator the 1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:32.440 college level, but two of the coordinators were first time 1:00:32.520 --> 1:00:35.320 coordinators at the NFL level. And Alex van pel is 1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:38.240 a first time true first time play caller. He'd done 1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:41.520 it before, but like, really, it being his show. You 1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:44.240 should not get out coached in that situation. And that's 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:47.160 not to say that's not to say I think lesser 1:00:47.240 --> 1:00:50.480 than of the Patriot staff, but it's like any rookies. 1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:54.280 You let somebody doing something for the first time pants you. 1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:56.520 That is a terrible terrible. 1:00:56.560 --> 1:00:56.800 Look. 1:00:57.240 --> 1:00:58.880 I agree with you. Taylor should be on the hot seat. 1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:02.160 On the hot seat, Zach Taylor. When the defense is 1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:05.600 playing soft zone the entire game, put the damn quarterback 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:07.960 under center and run the goddamn ball like it's it's 1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:10.920 really not rocket science. Like I just I find it 1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:15.360 so unbelievably crazy that they could see the way that 1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:17.960 the Patriots are playing defense in this game and run 1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:18.840 the ball twelve times? 1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:20.640 Is he the hottest seat in the NFL coming out 1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:21.000 of Week one? 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:26.800 Maybe? Like I'm sure that the Bengals would probably say, oh, well, 1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:28.600 we didn't have t Higgins. 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:32.040 And excuse objectively, who's the hot Who's the hottest seat 1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:33.240 coming out of week one? I'll give you a couple 1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:35.880 is he Does he have a hotter seat than Robert saw. 1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:38.040 No? 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:41.000 I think Robert Saal has a hotter seat. 1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:43.840 There's people saying like that's the that's the sneaky bet 1:01:43.960 --> 1:01:45.280 for like the first coach fire. 1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:47.439 Yeah, because if it doesn't work now, then Robert sala 1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:47.720 is out. 1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:49.120 Brian Daball. 1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:54.280 Maybe because I think the GM gets fired before Dable does, 1:01:54.400 --> 1:01:57.919 like dabel might be able to survive there through the GM. Yeah. 1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:01.520 Uh, there's another one, who was it? I forget. 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:08.480 Anyway freaking Zach Taylor twelve. Oh he won, But Mike McDaniel, 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:14.040 I can see why he's he's there's some skeptics because 1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:14.920 of the lack of playoff. 1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:17.880 It's not his seat's not harder than than than Taylor. 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:19.640 I guess that's that's the wrong way to bring it up. 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:22.800 But he does a little bit of hot you know, 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:25.280 like in a car, there's some of the some of 1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:27.439 the nice cars have like the different levels of seat warmer. 1:02:27.480 --> 1:02:29.520 It's like one, two three, he's on like level one. 1:02:29.640 --> 1:02:31.120 It's on the seat warmers on. 1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:32.800 It's not on the high side the lights on, but 1:02:32.880 --> 1:02:35.000 it's not all the way on. I hear you, all right, 1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:37.720 I'm done with picking on Zach Taylor. I just I 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:40.840 find it. One of my least favorite things about coaches 1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:46.080 in general are guys that just refuse to see the 1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:48.680 forest for the trees, Like it's just right in front 1:02:48.680 --> 1:02:51.160 of you and you're just so stubborn and you just 1:02:51.320 --> 1:02:53.040 run what you run, and that's it. 1:02:54.440 --> 1:02:56.640 Well, idolizing the Shanahan tree is. 1:02:57.080 --> 1:03:00.200 Wild, because I think you're you're wrong when it comes 1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:02.320 to this element of the Shanahan tree. I think the 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:03.600 Shanahan tree adjusts. 1:03:03.640 --> 1:03:05.720 All the time we've Evan, We've talked about this, this 1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:06.400 is what they do. 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:09.560 I can't sit here and tell you that, like what 1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:12.120 their pass run splits and all that kind I'm talking 1:03:12.160 --> 1:03:15.080 about Schematically. If a team came out and played the 1:03:15.120 --> 1:03:18.400 forty nine Ers the way the Patriots played the Bengals, 1:03:18.560 --> 1:03:20.640 Kyle Shanahan would have run the ball forty times. He 1:03:20.720 --> 1:03:22.960 did it in the in the NFC Championship game against 1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:25.280 the Packers with Jimmy g like that, Like he would 1:03:25.320 --> 1:03:27.040 have just ran the ball. If you're going to play 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:29.080 that type of coverage against us, we're gonna run the ball. 1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:31.520 I mean they Okay, they adjust more than that. I'll 1:03:31.560 --> 1:03:34.280 give you credit for that, but they don't they they 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:37.760 He's throwing the ball at Brock Party up two scores 1:03:37.800 --> 1:03:41.720 in the fourth quarter Super Bowl. That's not adjusting. Is 1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:44.040 banging your head against the wall, blinders on. 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I was really impressed by the Patriots win 1:04:53.040 --> 1:04:56.560 and I know, yeah that that's crazy how it happened, 1:04:56.600 --> 1:05:00.960 and it's really not something that we can count on 1:05:01.080 --> 1:05:04.760 as there was so much going on in terms of 1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:08.920 how everything went. My right, and you can't have that 1:05:09.040 --> 1:05:14.400 as a formula to consistently win. However, what I really 1:05:14.440 --> 1:05:17.920 did like was the Patriot's Way. And I know some 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:20.880 people are skeptical about the Patriot's Way in terms of 1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:23.880 what that means, but to me, it means do your job, 1:05:24.120 --> 1:05:28.640 which is focusing on playing your position and being your 1:05:28.680 --> 1:05:30.880 best at your ability and limiting errors. You know, you 1:05:31.000 --> 1:05:33.800 trust your teammates to do the same. It takes discipline, 1:05:33.840 --> 1:05:39.320 trust patients, and that play of that game on Sunday 1:05:39.640 --> 1:05:42.120 is a great example of that. So I'm happy that 1:05:42.240 --> 1:05:44.320 the Patriot's Way is still alive and well in New England. 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:47.480 Yeah, thanks for the call, Sean. I think it's a 1:05:47.520 --> 1:05:50.040 good point. I You know, this is something that Edelman 1:05:50.800 --> 1:05:54.120 mentioned too, was that it's a lot of the same messaging, 1:05:54.160 --> 1:05:56.760 it's just coming from a different messenger. Yeah, and sometimes 1:05:56.840 --> 1:05:57.840 that's all it needs to be. 1:05:58.480 --> 1:05:58.600 You know. 1:05:58.680 --> 1:06:01.240 Bill Belichick was the greatest head coach of all time, 1:06:01.320 --> 1:06:03.720 Like you don't need to go into it and completely 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:08.080 change his entire program, and Girodmeo being here kept a 1:06:08.120 --> 1:06:10.560 lot of the things that he liked and then maybe 1:06:10.680 --> 1:06:13.240 changed or slightly tweaked some of the things that he 1:06:13.360 --> 1:06:16.560 felt like he didn't like and so far one weekend, 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:19.919 it seems like that was sort of a Belichick coach 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:23.480 to win, you know, fundamentally sound, No, don't hurt yourself, 1:06:23.600 --> 1:06:26.000 run the football, play great defense. Like a lot of 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:28.840 those things are what Bill has been going for, frankly 1:06:28.920 --> 1:06:31.240 for the last couple of years, and at times in 1:06:31.320 --> 1:06:33.200 twenty one and twenty two they got to it, but 1:06:33.360 --> 1:06:37.000 it obviously wasn't consistent enough. I understand where he's coming 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:39.479 from that it still did feel a little bit Bill 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:41.160 like Belichick. 1:06:40.680 --> 1:06:43.680 In Yeah, I think there was definitely an emphasis on 1:06:43.840 --> 1:06:45.959 that that do your job thing, and it never felt 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:47.680 like there were times where guys were trying to do 1:06:47.760 --> 1:06:49.840 more than they needed to do. Ye, And that's encouraging 1:06:49.880 --> 1:06:52.400 because on a team like this, there's definitely you can 1:06:52.440 --> 1:06:54.560 see how there'd be be a lean towards that, and 1:06:54.880 --> 1:06:55.919 you didn't see that in this game. 1:06:56.040 --> 1:06:59.160 Yep. Absolutely, all right, Patty is an aguam. What's up? Patty? 1:07:01.640 --> 1:07:02.000 What's up? 1:07:02.080 --> 1:07:02.280 Guys? 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:07.600 You want to take doing great man? A couple of questions, 1:07:07.640 --> 1:07:11.760 as always, do you think first questions and for the 1:07:11.800 --> 1:07:14.640 both of you guys, both questions, do you think we 1:07:14.840 --> 1:07:17.560 run a similar game plan that we ran last week, 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:21.200 with the exception of maybe opening up the passing game 1:07:21.320 --> 1:07:23.680 just a little bit more to try and keep them 1:07:23.680 --> 1:07:25.920 a little bit more honest, because I do think honestly 1:07:25.960 --> 1:07:29.360 we can we can scheme up and run against the 1:07:29.440 --> 1:07:34.120 Seattle defense. And which of the three cornerbacks Jonathan Jones, 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:37.520 Marcus Jones, Christian Gonzales, which one of those three guys 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:40.120 do you think draws the hard hardest matchup this week? 1:07:40.320 --> 1:07:42.720 And I'll take it off air, and as always. 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:43.160 You guys are the best. 1:07:43.600 --> 1:07:46.320 Thanks, yeah, thanks Patty? All right? Who who draws you 1:07:46.440 --> 1:07:49.680 in the receiver? In the receivers for Seattle Patriots corners? 1:07:49.840 --> 1:07:53.520 Yeah, I think it's pretty straightforward. I think Gonzales gets 1:07:53.560 --> 1:07:56.760 DK metcalfs dying over here. You get Gonzalez and DK 1:07:56.840 --> 1:08:01.439 metcalf yep, right. You know, athletics is not leticism. John Jones, 1:08:01.480 --> 1:08:04.280 Tyler Lockett, two veterans, quick guys. That makes a lot 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:07.480 of sense. And I think you throw Marcus Jones or 1:08:07.480 --> 1:08:10.360 whoever in the slot on Jackson Smith and Jigbo. If 1:08:10.480 --> 1:08:13.000 JSN really starts to beat you up, maybe move John 1:08:13.040 --> 1:08:15.240 Jones in the slot and throw Alex Austin or Marco 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:19.360 Wilson un locket with help over the top. But I 1:08:19.439 --> 1:08:21.479 think this one's actually pretty straightforward. I don't think there's 1:08:21.479 --> 1:08:22.760 too much to get into here. 1:08:22.840 --> 1:08:24.479 Yeah, the only thing that you worry about a little 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:27.519 bit is is Marcus Jones, like Jackson Smith and Jibus 1:08:27.520 --> 1:08:30.360 a little bit thicker and bigger than Marcus Jones. We 1:08:30.439 --> 1:08:33.080 worry a little bit about that. But Yoshiva's he did 1:08:33.080 --> 1:08:35.719 a pretty good job against Yeshiva's considering the height difference 1:08:35.760 --> 1:08:38.040 and stuff like that, So maybe it's not that big 1:08:38.080 --> 1:08:40.720 of a deal to the first one. I think it 1:08:40.840 --> 1:08:43.120 is a kind of a similar game plan because the 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:45.360 one thing you don't want to do with this McDaniel's 1:08:45.360 --> 1:08:49.800 scheme or McDonald excuse me, I said McDaniel McDonald's. 1:08:49.200 --> 1:08:51.240 Like, oh, we bring the fullback back this week, let's 1:08:51.280 --> 1:08:51.559 go right. 1:08:51.680 --> 1:08:53.519 I wish the one thing that you don't want to 1:08:53.560 --> 1:08:55.760 do with this McDonald's scheme is to get is get 1:08:55.800 --> 1:08:59.400 into passing situations and just allow him to unleash this 1:08:59.520 --> 1:09:02.280 pressure package of his. Is the darling of the leagues. 1:09:02.800 --> 1:09:04.639 You don't you got to stay out a third and long. 1:09:05.240 --> 1:09:07.240 You have to stay out of like being behind on 1:09:07.280 --> 1:09:10.560 the scoreboard big that you're an obvious pass, you have 1:09:10.680 --> 1:09:12.439 to be able to stay ahead of the chains like 1:09:12.520 --> 1:09:16.800 all that kind of stuff. It still qualifies here. So 1:09:16.920 --> 1:09:19.920 I would say Downhill run game probably better off that 1:09:20.000 --> 1:09:22.160 way too, because they are a pretty fast and athletic 1:09:22.280 --> 1:09:25.280 defense in Seattle. I don't necessarily think that they should 1:09:25.280 --> 1:09:27.680 be going sideline to sideline against this team. I don't 1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:29.479 think that's how you beat them. I think you go 1:09:29.600 --> 1:09:33.360 right at them again, So pretty similar Again, like I 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:36.320 said earlier, I hope the play action passing game is 1:09:36.320 --> 1:09:39.760 a little bit more you know, fruitful this week. And 1:09:39.840 --> 1:09:43.200 the one thing that might be beneficial to them is 1:09:43.280 --> 1:09:46.040 this is a very very zone heavy system. They play 1:09:46.040 --> 1:09:49.479 a ton of zone coverage in this defense. So usually 1:09:49.560 --> 1:09:52.360 with play action you think the zone stuff. You know, 1:09:52.439 --> 1:09:54.720 you're pulling guys, guys like in the middle of the 1:09:54.760 --> 1:09:58.200 field now have run fits and they have zone responsibilities. 1:09:58.439 --> 1:10:00.360 So if you put those guys in conflict, then you 1:10:00.400 --> 1:10:02.479 can play games with them in the play action passing 1:10:02.560 --> 1:10:05.400 game and get that thing going. So that's that's the 1:10:05.479 --> 1:10:09.080 hope here. But I I think from a game plan perspective, offensively, 1:10:09.120 --> 1:10:10.840 it kind of stays the same. I would run right 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:12.960 at him again, because I you know, as good as 1:10:13.040 --> 1:10:17.120 Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy are, those guys are downhill players, 1:10:17.200 --> 1:10:20.000 like they're aggressive gap shooters there. I don't necessarily look 1:10:20.000 --> 1:10:23.599 at those guys as like Devon Godshaw's right, like who 1:10:23.600 --> 1:10:26.599 You're just gonna have a tough time moving on the interior. 1:10:27.320 --> 1:10:29.680 Do you do you think that they do anything differently offensively? 1:10:30.400 --> 1:10:32.640 Maybe mix in some more play action. Yeah, you know, 1:10:32.960 --> 1:10:33.559 but nothing. 1:10:33.840 --> 1:10:35.560 You're not going to reinvent the wheel. I mean that 1:10:36.320 --> 1:10:38.519 you're kind of limited in terms of what personnel is. 1:10:39.000 --> 1:10:40.840 So I don't think we're gonna see anything that's that 1:10:40.960 --> 1:10:41.679 much of a departure. 1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:45.120 Agreed, all right, Kendall is in North Carolina. It's up Kendall. 1:10:47.520 --> 1:10:52.160 On guys. Hey, Hey, I just want to know what's 1:10:52.240 --> 1:10:55.479 your overlot, Like, what is your negative about any weak 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:57.960 I know you already did your film work on them. Well, 1:10:57.960 --> 1:11:00.599 I'm not sure if you've already completed were the early 1:11:00.720 --> 1:11:03.640 weaknesses that you see in Seattle defense? 1:11:04.520 --> 1:11:06.800 Yeah? Yeah, thanks for the call, Candle, I appreciate it. 1:11:06.920 --> 1:11:09.840 So I will start with the Seahawks defense because that's 1:11:09.840 --> 1:11:11.800 what we were just talking about. I think It's what 1:11:11.880 --> 1:11:14.000 I just mentioned with them in terms of weakness is 1:11:14.760 --> 1:11:17.840 Byron Murphy and Leonard Williams and Hankins, and those guys 1:11:17.880 --> 1:11:21.240 in the middle are really good pass rushing players, especially 1:11:21.520 --> 1:11:24.960 Williams and Murphy. But again, I Murphy's like in that 1:11:25.240 --> 1:11:28.840 Aaron Donald type mold, but he's obviously not Aaron freaking Donald. 1:11:28.960 --> 1:11:31.200 So like, if there's one thing that you could probably 1:11:31.320 --> 1:11:33.840 do is run at him at this stage of his career. 1:11:34.400 --> 1:11:37.120 So I would probably get downhill on this team defensively 1:11:37.280 --> 1:11:40.719 or Patriots offense their defense because of that, I don't 1:11:40.720 --> 1:11:44.840 necessarily look at their lineup in their linebackers either and say, 1:11:45.439 --> 1:11:48.680 those guys are are Juwan Bentley's and Godshaws and like 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:50.559 players that you're you don't want to run over. 1:11:50.800 --> 1:11:53.400 Yeah, and if you can start running the ball successfully, 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:55.519 it kind of forces some of those blitzers to hesitate. 1:11:55.600 --> 1:11:58.280 We talked about you talked about earlier, how you know 1:11:58.360 --> 1:11:59.840 these blitzer are gonna be coming from all over and 1:12:00.000 --> 1:12:03.320 don't necessarily know who they're bringing. If the run becomes 1:12:03.360 --> 1:12:05.400 a real threat, you kind of have to hesitate before 1:12:05.479 --> 1:12:08.479 really going all in after the quarterback. So I'm with you. 1:12:08.560 --> 1:12:10.280 I think establishing the run early is important. 1:12:10.439 --> 1:12:13.920 Yeah, So offensively for the Seahawks. Defensively for the Patriots, 1:12:14.800 --> 1:12:17.920 their offensive line also has some concerns and some issues. Yeah, 1:12:18.040 --> 1:12:20.559 Charles Cross had a really nice debut last week at 1:12:20.640 --> 1:12:23.280 left tackle. He's a really good run blocker and blocker 1:12:23.360 --> 1:12:26.720 in space, like super athletic guy, but can be had 1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:30.439 in pass rush or pass protection bite with power, Like 1:12:30.520 --> 1:12:32.280 if you want to put Keon White over him and 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:34.800 just have him bull rush him into the pocket, there's 1:12:34.800 --> 1:12:36.639 a chance that you can dent the pocket that way. 1:12:37.040 --> 1:12:39.320 And at right tackle, George Fan, I'm not sure if 1:12:39.320 --> 1:12:41.760 he's gonna play or not. He was a DNP in 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:44.719 practice yesterday, so they could be on a backup right tackle. 1:12:44.880 --> 1:12:46.000 Both their guards are hurt too. 1:12:46.200 --> 1:12:48.479 Yeah, they have some concerns on the offensive line, just 1:12:48.560 --> 1:12:49.320 like the Patriots. 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:51.960 Yeah, I to me how they use key On what 1:12:52.160 --> 1:12:54.200 is interesting? Like you said, do you put him on 1:12:54.240 --> 1:12:56.000 the blind side? Do you put him up against Charles 1:12:56.080 --> 1:12:58.240 Cross and just kind of try to put him in 1:12:59.640 --> 1:13:01.880 bully him. Well, I just be like, do you put 1:13:01.960 --> 1:13:05.360 Keon White in the spot where he's gonna be most effective? 1:13:05.400 --> 1:13:07.880 What I mean by that is obviously your best rusher 1:13:07.920 --> 1:13:10.320 on the blind side quarterback can't see him coming? Or 1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:12.720 do you use Keon White to match a punt and 1:13:13.120 --> 1:13:15.240 oh they have a backup right tackle and oh their 1:13:15.280 --> 1:13:17.360 guards are banged up? Right do you put it? And 1:13:17.439 --> 1:13:18.760 I think they'll do a little bit of everything. I 1:13:18.760 --> 1:13:21.920 think to move around. But how do you approach Keon 1:13:22.000 --> 1:13:23.920 White's usage in this game? Where do you put him? 1:13:24.040 --> 1:13:25.880 I think is the big question there. And I don't 1:13:25.880 --> 1:13:28.800 know if there's necessarily a wrong answer, it's just is 1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:31.000 it is it good or is it better how you're 1:13:31.080 --> 1:13:31.439 using him? 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:34.160 Yeah, last thing on their weaknesses, And I also want 1:13:34.200 --> 1:13:36.280 to talk a little bit about their strains to their offense. 1:13:36.280 --> 1:13:38.680 Because we talked about the defense the pressure package. We 1:13:38.760 --> 1:13:41.360 can talk about that a little bit too. But I 1:13:41.479 --> 1:13:43.920 think there's like once or I think Geno has come 1:13:43.960 --> 1:13:46.040 a long way. Like Gino's a much better player than 1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:49.439 he used to be. It's it's impressive how far he's 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:52.479 come as a passer from the pocket compared to what 1:13:52.600 --> 1:13:54.599 he was. And he also had like a thirty yard 1:13:54.760 --> 1:13:57.040 touchdown run in the game last week, just like took 1:13:57.120 --> 1:13:59.080 off up the middle of the field and ran like 1:13:59.160 --> 1:14:01.479 nineteen miles an hour. I think he almost touched on 1:14:01.600 --> 1:14:04.800 the GPS really fast player in the open field there. 1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:08.000 There's once or twice a game. He's still gonna give 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:11.040 you a chance to take the ball away. He's gonna 1:14:11.080 --> 1:14:14.599 make some aggressive throws down the field where he trusts 1:14:14.640 --> 1:14:16.280 his arm a little bit too much, and he's got 1:14:16.320 --> 1:14:18.960 a little bit of that arm arrogance going on like 1:14:19.040 --> 1:14:21.599 we talk about with Josh Allen, and you can turn 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:24.639 him over a little bit in that respect. He turned 1:14:24.640 --> 1:14:26.320 the ball over on their first possession of the game 1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:28.160 last week, like threw the ball right to a guy, 1:14:28.960 --> 1:14:31.760 you know, arm punted style, basically right to somebody there's 1:14:31.800 --> 1:14:35.479 some pressure in the pocket. But taking advantage of those 1:14:35.840 --> 1:14:38.800 opportunities is going to be big because if you're the 1:14:38.840 --> 1:14:41.800 team like the Patriots, you gotta steal possessions, right, you 1:14:41.920 --> 1:14:44.360 have to find ways to steal possessions. So where do 1:14:44.439 --> 1:14:46.360 you see, you know, in terms of what stood out 1:14:46.400 --> 1:14:49.600 to you in Week one with Seattle? Offensively? 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:52.560 Yeah, so offense, So a couple things you mentioned the 1:14:52.600 --> 1:14:56.760 early interception, right, yeah, not a group that's going to 1:14:56.840 --> 1:15:00.519 go down quietly. Just big picture kind of saw us 1:15:00.560 --> 1:15:03.720 last week with Cincinnati, like didn't they feel like discouraged 1:15:03.720 --> 1:15:05.439 by the end of the game, and maybe some of that. 1:15:05.479 --> 1:15:08.200 I think Burrow was the wrist was a thing mentally. 1:15:08.080 --> 1:15:09.120 Say the water bottle thing. 1:15:09.320 --> 1:15:11.559 Yeah. So here's real quick on Joe Burrow. I see 1:15:11.560 --> 1:15:12.920 a lot of people using this game as like an 1:15:12.960 --> 1:15:15.240 indictment that Burrow is not actually a top five quarterback 1:15:15.280 --> 1:15:17.840 in the league. I'm not willing to all that far. 1:15:18.040 --> 1:15:20.240 But if I'm the Bengals, I'm calling a sports psychologist. 1:15:20.560 --> 1:15:21.519 I don't know if he's healthy. 1:15:22.680 --> 1:15:24.760 I think he is healthy. I don't think he thinks 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:25.240 he's healthy. 1:15:25.560 --> 1:15:28.320 So I was talking to Trags. Yeah, are our good 1:15:28.360 --> 1:15:31.600 friend Trags before the game on Sunday. Yeah, And we 1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:33.439 were just running through both teams. You know what do 1:15:33.520 --> 1:15:35.679 you see? What you see? And I asked him about 1:15:35.720 --> 1:15:40.080 Burrow and Trags nailed it per usual, said that in 1:15:40.160 --> 1:15:42.280 the middle of the field, Burrow looks like Burrow, like 1:15:42.360 --> 1:15:43.960 he can still throw the ball through the middle of 1:15:44.000 --> 1:15:46.880 the field, anticipate throws, all that kind of stuff like 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:50.439 he always has. But in camp he was not having 1:15:50.520 --> 1:15:52.719 He was having some issues throwing the ball outside the numbers. 1:15:53.200 --> 1:15:55.400 And I felt like that really reared its head in 1:15:55.439 --> 1:15:57.519 the game, like he had some opportunities, some one on 1:15:57.640 --> 1:16:00.880 one opportunities outside the numbers that old Joe Burrow I 1:16:00.960 --> 1:16:02.880 feel like would have just ripped it and he didn't. 1:16:02.920 --> 1:16:05.680 Well that's why again I think he needs a sports psychologist. 1:16:05.920 --> 1:16:07.559 I wonder if there's a confidence thing, because the water 1:16:07.640 --> 1:16:09.920 bottle was not that heavy, Like that's a mental thing, 1:16:10.080 --> 1:16:12.559 that's not a physical thing. If your wrist was really 1:16:12.680 --> 1:16:15.200 that much of an issue, he like he wouldn't be 1:16:15.200 --> 1:16:17.080 able to play, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I 1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:20.000 think he needs sports like anyway, back to the original point, Yes, 1:16:20.400 --> 1:16:22.559 it did feel like the Bengals, maybe following the lead 1:16:22.640 --> 1:16:25.479 of their quarterback late in that game, got sort of 1:16:25.520 --> 1:16:28.120 just all right, well you know this else take him 1:16:28.120 --> 1:16:30.680 to exactly, you're not gonna be able to. You might 1:16:30.720 --> 1:16:32.240 you can try to take the Seahawks the hill. I'm 1:16:32.240 --> 1:16:34.280 not gonna say you can't. But this is a team 1:16:34.320 --> 1:16:36.120 that's gonna play a sixty minute game. And I think 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:37.560 some of that was they had a little bit of 1:16:37.600 --> 1:16:40.000 what the Patriots at first time head coach like, they're 1:16:40.040 --> 1:16:41.920 playing for this guy, They're trying to get him going. 1:16:42.200 --> 1:16:44.560 I think Gino has tremendous buy in there, much like 1:16:44.640 --> 1:16:48.240 Jacoby does here agreed, this is not a unit that 1:16:48.880 --> 1:16:51.519 the Patriots punched the Bengals in the mouth, and the 1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:53.360 Bengals stumbled, Yeah. 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:54.840 You're not. 1:16:56.439 --> 1:16:58.280 You're gonna punt. If they punched Seattle in the mouth, 1:16:58.600 --> 1:17:00.559 Sew's gonna get back up and gonna need to punch 1:17:00.640 --> 1:17:02.360 him again and again and again. So that's one thing. 1:17:02.840 --> 1:17:05.559 The other thing that sitt out to me Kenneth Walker. 1:17:06.040 --> 1:17:10.400 I am so glad gerrowd Mao and von Gotscha and 1:17:10.520 --> 1:17:13.439 all these other guys have talked about how underrated Kenneth 1:17:13.479 --> 1:17:15.920 Walker is this week because they are right. I love 1:17:16.000 --> 1:17:17.639 this guy coming out of Michigan State. I was really 1:17:17.720 --> 1:17:21.559 high on him, and he is such a good modern 1:17:21.720 --> 1:17:24.080 NFL back. And what I mean by there's two kinds 1:17:24.120 --> 1:17:26.720 of modern NFL backs. There's the one that you like, 1:17:27.120 --> 1:17:29.680 which is basically a receiver out of backfield, one of 1:17:29.720 --> 1:17:33.360 the best players in and those guys well McCaffrey Kamara, Yeah, 1:17:33.479 --> 1:17:35.000 you could even take it to a level like the 1:17:35.000 --> 1:17:37.360 guys like James White, right, like a modern back, a 1:17:37.400 --> 1:17:38.880 guy that can be a factor in the passing game. 1:17:39.240 --> 1:17:41.240 The other the other thing I think of when I 1:17:41.280 --> 1:17:45.840 think of modern back, are you two twenty five, two 1:17:45.960 --> 1:17:49.880 thirty with wiggle, because if you're a speedster but you're 1:17:49.920 --> 1:17:53.360 not like one of these pass catchers, it's really hard 1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:57.400 to be sustainably good in the NFL because the physical 1:17:57.520 --> 1:18:01.559 toll with these bigger, faster, stronger defenders. It just it's 1:18:01.600 --> 1:18:03.280 a lot harder to be impactful like that if you're 1:18:03.280 --> 1:18:05.840 not also contributing the passing game. There's also guys that 1:18:05.920 --> 1:18:07.600 are like two thirty, but they're just two thirty and 1:18:07.640 --> 1:18:10.200 they fall forward like they don't like, are you a 1:18:10.280 --> 1:18:12.840 guy that Bjeon Robinson, Well, he contributes to the passing game, 1:18:12.840 --> 1:18:14.400 but you get what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, Actually that's 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:16.599 what it is, is Jamier games. B Jeon Robinson one 1:18:16.640 --> 1:18:18.840 of the two right. Kenneth Walker is the guy that 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:21.160 I think he's like two twenty six to twenty seven 1:18:21.240 --> 1:18:23.320 something like that. You wouldn't know it by the way 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:25.360 he plays, kind of like we saw with Remandre. He 1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:27.439 can run around guys just as well as he can 1:18:27.520 --> 1:18:30.799 run through them. Those guys are a freaking headache because 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:33.439 small guy, you kind of know what the point of attack, 1:18:33.800 --> 1:18:35.720 all right, as long as I don't let him get 1:18:35.720 --> 1:18:37.920 outside my frame, I'm gonna be able to take him down. 1:18:37.920 --> 1:18:40.200 He's not gonna put much of a fight. Big guy, 1:18:40.280 --> 1:18:42.240 you know, is gonna hurt. But if I stand in 1:18:42.280 --> 1:18:45.320 front of him, I'm gonna tackle him. Kenneth Walker can 1:18:45.400 --> 1:18:46.800 do so many different things to you with the point 1:18:46.840 --> 1:18:48.960 of attack. It really makes him a nightmare to go 1:18:49.120 --> 1:18:51.479 up again. So we can talk about DK metcalf a lot. 1:18:51.560 --> 1:18:54.240 Everybody knows how I think about about him future Patriot 1:18:54.320 --> 1:18:58.360 DK metcalf right ideally, Yeah, but the way Kenneth Walker 1:18:59.160 --> 1:19:03.360 can just exerts actual he's listed at two fifteen. Wow, 1:19:03.400 --> 1:19:05.560 I thought he's bigger than that. Still big, but he 1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:07.160 runs much bigger now, which kind of my point. The 1:19:07.200 --> 1:19:10.080 way he can exert force on a defense and put 1:19:10.160 --> 1:19:12.400 a defender in conflict at the point of attack makes 1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:13.600 him a really dangerous player to me. 1:19:13.800 --> 1:19:15.280 Yeah, so let's stick with the running game because I 1:19:15.280 --> 1:19:17.760 think it's a good point. First of all, probably one 1:19:17.760 --> 1:19:21.519 of the biggest X factors of this game is Kenneth 1:19:21.560 --> 1:19:22.160 Walker's health. 1:19:22.479 --> 1:19:24.280 Like Kenneth that's a good point. He didn't practice. 1:19:24.320 --> 1:19:26.439 If Kenth Walker doesn't play in this game, it's huge 1:19:26.479 --> 1:19:29.800 for the Patriots. Like I would say, potentially result changed 1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:31.920 almost as big as t Higgins being out, if not 1:19:32.040 --> 1:19:34.080 bigger with the Bengals. 1:19:34.280 --> 1:19:35.479 It's a it's a good comparison. 1:19:35.800 --> 1:19:38.479 I don't think Zach Charbonnet is as good of a player, 1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:40.880 like even close, So I think it would be really 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:45.920 massive if Kenneth Walker is out on Sunday. One of 1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:47.479 the things that really stood out to me that I 1:19:47.520 --> 1:19:51.160 thought was impressive with the Seahawks film watching their tape 1:19:51.240 --> 1:19:55.360 last week against Denver was how well Walker ran and 1:19:55.479 --> 1:19:58.320 how well Ryan Grubb, their offensive coordinator, is one of 1:19:58.360 --> 1:20:01.559 your guys is from wat University Washington College. Oh see 1:20:02.760 --> 1:20:05.200 how well he designed a run game. On top of 1:20:05.240 --> 1:20:08.519 that we just talked about earlier, I had my rant 1:20:08.560 --> 1:20:11.639 about Zach Taylor not running the ball against the Patriots 1:20:11.680 --> 1:20:15.400 soft zones. The Broncos played the exact same type of 1:20:15.439 --> 1:20:17.880 coverage as the Patriots played similar type of coverage, I 1:20:17.920 --> 1:20:21.200 should say, as the Patriots played against the Seahawks last week. 1:20:21.800 --> 1:20:25.040 The Broncos game plan was, it's not gonna be Metcalf, 1:20:25.200 --> 1:20:27.719 It's not gonna be Jsn, it's not gonna be Tyler Lockett. 1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:30.439 It's gonna be the run game. It's gonna be Gino. 1:20:30.600 --> 1:20:33.960 It's gonna be something else. They really held Dk Metcalf 1:20:35.040 --> 1:20:37.559 under wraps. Now, a lot of that was Patrick Surtan, 1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:40.559 who was a stud. But what you're kind of hoping, 1:20:40.640 --> 1:20:43.320 Christians Alls is that kind of play. So just a 1:20:43.400 --> 1:20:46.200 quick aside. I was talking to Christian Gonzalez about this 1:20:46.280 --> 1:20:49.880 the other day. He said that the number one corner 1:20:49.960 --> 1:20:52.360 that he watches in the league is Certain. He said 1:20:52.360 --> 1:20:55.160 that that's like his his idol, Like he's that's the 1:20:55.240 --> 1:20:58.800 guy he models his game. Makes sense. Anyways, the run 1:20:58.880 --> 1:21:02.080 game for Seattle, I was really impressed with Ryan Grubb 1:21:02.120 --> 1:21:05.519 and his scheme. In the run game. They run a 1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:08.360 lot of bells and whistles, like all the things I 1:21:08.479 --> 1:21:12.280 was talking about the Patriots didn't do last week. Seattle 1:21:12.479 --> 1:21:15.120 was doing all of them, like shift here, shift there, 1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:19.920 motion this guy, Yeah, bring the tight end into motion, right, 1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:22.080 So when you bring the tight end and you start 1:21:22.160 --> 1:21:24.760 the tight end early into his block and then it 1:21:24.800 --> 1:21:27.400 allows him to kick out with more force and things 1:21:27.520 --> 1:21:31.280 like that, and changing the strength of the formations with shifts, 1:21:31.439 --> 1:21:34.640 like they shifted ten times in this game. That was 1:21:34.680 --> 1:21:38.080 the highest amount in the league. Last week, Washington's offense 1:21:38.160 --> 1:21:40.560 was was a big shifting offense. They did that a 1:21:40.680 --> 1:21:43.879 ton with the Huskies as well. It's a big hallmark 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:46.200 of this system is how much they motion and shift 1:21:46.320 --> 1:21:48.880 pre snap. So they do it with a purpose though, 1:21:49.000 --> 1:21:51.960 like they're gonna shift guys to change up and open 1:21:52.080 --> 1:21:54.599 up holes in the run game, or they're gonna motion 1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:57.720 guys to get guys into their blocks with heads of 1:21:57.800 --> 1:22:00.320 steam and things like that. They do it really nice 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:03.160 job in the running game. And if you watch that tape, 1:22:03.560 --> 1:22:06.639 Denver is a lot of six man in the box. 1:22:06.720 --> 1:22:09.240 They're a lot too high. They're just worried about the 1:22:09.320 --> 1:22:11.920 passing game and stopping the explosive plays through the air, 1:22:12.600 --> 1:22:16.719 and the Seahawks carved them up on the ground, absolutely 1:22:16.760 --> 1:22:19.760 carved him up. So if you're the Patriots, I look 1:22:19.800 --> 1:22:22.160 at this run game from Seattle, because when I think 1:22:22.200 --> 1:22:25.360 of Seattle, I'm sure you think the same thing. We 1:22:25.479 --> 1:22:28.960 both love DK. You think DK, you think Lockett, you 1:22:29.040 --> 1:22:32.000 think JSN. When I turned on this film against Denver, 1:22:32.439 --> 1:22:34.600 I was thinking Kenneth Walker. I was like, this was 1:22:35.000 --> 1:22:37.760 a Kenneth Walker game. They'll run the ball if the 1:22:37.800 --> 1:22:40.720 Patriots play the same brand of defense they did against Cincinnati. 1:22:40.880 --> 1:22:44.880 So I'm interested to see what DeMarcus Covington does this 1:22:45.040 --> 1:22:47.760 time around, because there's a different game plan. It's a 1:22:47.760 --> 1:22:50.519 different beast that they're going up against, and this is 1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:53.240 a team that will run the ball unlike Zach Taylor. Yeah, 1:22:53.240 --> 1:22:58.719 so that's an offense. Defensively, it's McDonald like, this pressure 1:22:58.800 --> 1:23:02.759 scheme is becoming the invoke thing I know Andrew Kallen 1:23:02.800 --> 1:23:05.639 had in the Herald today. The Patriots are even trying 1:23:05.680 --> 1:23:08.960 to take some things from it. They they are running 1:23:09.479 --> 1:23:13.240 the IT scheme defensively in the league right now. What 1:23:13.360 --> 1:23:15.200 you're gonna see a lot of is you're gonna see 1:23:15.200 --> 1:23:20.160 a lot of multiple pass rush pass rush threats up 1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:23.000 on the line of scrimmage. Once the ball is snapped, 1:23:24.240 --> 1:23:26.960 who's coming and who's going? Right Like, they're gonna bring 1:23:27.080 --> 1:23:31.320 different guys from different places. They're unknown rushers, as girod 1:23:31.400 --> 1:23:34.280 BeO calls them. You don't know who the four guys 1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:36.120 are gonna come and who are the four guys that 1:23:36.200 --> 1:23:38.160 are gonna drop. But they're gonna get to a four 1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:41.000 man rush. They don't bring a lot of extra pressure. 1:23:41.240 --> 1:23:44.639 Often it's usually four or five guys. You just don't 1:23:44.680 --> 1:23:46.639 know where those four or five guys are coming from. 1:23:46.960 --> 1:23:51.120 It's extremely disguised heavy, it's extremely difficult to decipher pre snap. 1:23:51.520 --> 1:23:55.040 It's a very very difficult attack based system to run against. 1:23:55.479 --> 1:23:57.599 And that to me is why you have to establish 1:23:57.640 --> 1:24:00.360 the run. Yea, nothing will up because you have to 1:24:00.400 --> 1:24:04.160 do against this group. They already have the reason not 1:24:04.240 --> 1:24:08.120 everybody runs. That is it's a lot easier said than done. 1:24:08.560 --> 1:24:11.120 It's a big mental task for not just the guys 1:24:11.160 --> 1:24:13.200 that are rushing, but all eleven players on the defense. 1:24:13.760 --> 1:24:16.120 So they're already thinking about a lot. If you can 1:24:16.160 --> 1:24:19.720 start using misdirection, motion, play action, just running the ball 1:24:19.840 --> 1:24:22.320 to offset the timing where they now have to you know, 1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:25.720 the run fit has to be just as much at 1:24:25.760 --> 1:24:28.560 the front of the mind as the passing down responsibility, 1:24:28.760 --> 1:24:31.920 whether it's rushing or covering that extra quarter second they 1:24:32.000 --> 1:24:33.360 have to think, and you give them something extra to 1:24:33.400 --> 1:24:35.680 think about can make all the difference. So I think 1:24:35.720 --> 1:24:38.679 for the Patriots about establishing the run and just even 1:24:38.760 --> 1:24:41.600 things as simple as counters or draws, just anything that 1:24:41.760 --> 1:24:45.000 upsets the timing and doesn't make it a black and 1:24:45.080 --> 1:24:47.639 white picture is gonna help this week. 1:24:47.800 --> 1:24:51.240 Yeah, So McDonald is from the wink Martindale tree, but 1:24:51.360 --> 1:24:54.240 he doesn't bring as much like Wink Martin dud just blitzes. 1:24:54.360 --> 1:24:56.840 Wink Martindale had a rough week last I know, did 1:24:56.920 --> 1:25:00.439 you watch that. When you watch that in Fi Brewery, 1:25:01.000 --> 1:25:04.600 you your guy Sarks. The Sarkisia put Wink Martindale in 1:25:04.680 --> 1:25:10.760 an absolute blender. So Wink Martindale blitzes like just pure, 1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:14.760 we're bringing more guys than you have to block. McDonald 1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:17.000 has sort of taken that to the next level where 1:25:17.080 --> 1:25:20.760 it's we're gonna simulate that you were bringing more guys 1:25:20.800 --> 1:25:23.240 and you're gonna block, but we're actually gonna just bring 1:25:23.360 --> 1:25:26.479 four guys. It's just that you just can't decipher which 1:25:26.560 --> 1:25:29.719 for it is gonna be. So I look at Layden Robinson, 1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:33.640 I look at Michael Jordan, like two guys. Jordan's a 1:25:33.680 --> 1:25:36.800 little bit more experienced, obviously had some experience in the league. 1:25:37.080 --> 1:25:40.360 They're gonna play some freaking mind games with Leyden Robinson. 1:25:40.400 --> 1:25:42.240 I can tell you that right now. Yeah, you know, his. 1:25:42.320 --> 1:25:44.840 Head's gonna be in an absolute blender. So this is 1:25:44.880 --> 1:25:47.400 a big week for David Andrews, It's a big week 1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:50.360 for Jacoby. Like those guys need to know when they're hot, 1:25:50.439 --> 1:25:52.920 they need to know, you know, where the lines pointed 1:25:53.040 --> 1:25:56.600 needs to be correct, and basically, Jacoby, it's kind of 1:25:56.680 --> 1:25:58.880 on him, like if you point the line in a 1:25:59.000 --> 1:26:02.040 certain way and you know this guy's the mic, and 1:26:02.200 --> 1:26:05.040 you know that the line is responsible for one, two, three, four, 1:26:05.479 --> 1:26:07.840 if five comes, you need to know that you're hot 1:26:08.000 --> 1:26:09.280 and the ball needs to come out. 1:26:09.520 --> 1:26:09.800 You know that. 1:26:10.000 --> 1:26:12.120 That's a big part of his game plan this week. 1:26:12.680 --> 1:26:16.280 The good news because it's daunting to go up against. 1:26:16.320 --> 1:26:18.560 It's a scary defense to go up against. Yeah, the 1:26:18.640 --> 1:26:22.040 good news is a VP again week two of this 1:26:22.560 --> 1:26:24.960 has a lot of experience against this defense. You know, 1:26:25.000 --> 1:26:28.080 he coached against Baltimore for years with the Cleveland Browns, 1:26:28.120 --> 1:26:30.960 coached against McDonald's you know, four or five times with 1:26:31.080 --> 1:26:34.160 the Cleveland Browns. So he has the he knows what's coming, 1:26:34.360 --> 1:26:37.360 Like he understands what's coming in this game. It's gonna 1:26:37.360 --> 1:26:39.640 be an interesting test for the offensive line. There's a 1:26:39.680 --> 1:26:42.000 lot of different moving parts here. I want to do 1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:44.640 key matchups. Let's what do you got? Number one? 1:26:44.920 --> 1:26:46.840 So we already kind of talked about it. Christians also 1:26:46.880 --> 1:26:49.240 and DK metcalf. Yeah, and not even necessarily like what 1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:51.400 obviously means a lot for this game, but also just 1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:55.080 what a sign it would be about Gonzales going forward 1:26:55.280 --> 1:26:57.320 if he comes out and just has another one of 1:26:57.360 --> 1:27:01.720 these performances against DK Metcalf. You know, I I think 1:27:01.760 --> 1:27:03.880 he'll travel with him a good amount just based off 1:27:03.880 --> 1:27:05.360 what we saw last week. Is kind of why I'm 1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:08.800 projecting that. But yeah, that's that, that's my number one 1:27:08.840 --> 1:27:11.280 match we're looking forward. Yeah, so I definitely had that 1:27:11.400 --> 1:27:11.760 one too. 1:27:12.000 --> 1:27:14.160 I think the biggest thing for Gonzo so I wrote 1:27:14.200 --> 1:27:16.880 down two certans numbers here for a second. So he 1:27:17.000 --> 1:27:19.800 went against DK for twenty four routes, eleven of them 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:22.240 in man coverage, and gave up three for twenty nine. 1:27:22.320 --> 1:27:23.280 So that's pretty darn good. 1:27:23.360 --> 1:27:23.559 Yeah. 1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:23.800 Uh. 1:27:24.200 --> 1:27:26.360 The biggest thing to me with Gonzo at this matchup 1:27:26.840 --> 1:27:30.040 is that DK is such a freaking beast right like, 1:27:30.240 --> 1:27:33.160 so he can stick with him speed for speed. I 1:27:33.240 --> 1:27:35.759 have no doubt about that. This is a tough matchup 1:27:35.800 --> 1:27:38.120 for him in terms of physicality. I remember us talking 1:27:38.160 --> 1:27:40.560 about this with AJ Brown a little bit too, like 1:27:40.680 --> 1:27:44.960 this is a physical specimen. So Gonzalez holding his water 1:27:45.080 --> 1:27:47.640 against DK Metcalf is gonna be tough, and not just 1:27:47.760 --> 1:27:49.880 in the route, but he is going to catch one 1:27:49.960 --> 1:27:54.040 or two like tackling him. Yeah, yep, one hundred percent. 1:27:54.240 --> 1:27:56.519 All right, So my other two are on the offensive 1:27:56.560 --> 1:27:59.120 line for the Patriots, you know, for a good reason. Yeah, 1:27:59.360 --> 1:28:03.000 Vederian Lowe versus Boie Mafy, I think it's a huge mismatch. 1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:03.559 Uh. 1:28:03.800 --> 1:28:07.200 Mafi had nine quarterback pressures last week. It was third 1:28:07.240 --> 1:28:10.000 most in the league behind I think it was like 1:28:10.120 --> 1:28:12.519 Miles Garrett and Max Crosby, like two of the most 1:28:12.560 --> 1:28:15.800 guy was awesome, maybe was Micah you know what, really 1:28:15.840 --> 1:28:20.080 good guys, right, that's the point. Also had a TfL 1:28:20.160 --> 1:28:23.040 in the run game too, MafA. He was kind of 1:28:23.160 --> 1:28:26.000 like ther Keon White. Yeah, this year where he was 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:28.000 a raw player. We've talked about him in the draft. 1:28:28.040 --> 1:28:29.479 I go that for a fact. I think one of 1:28:29.520 --> 1:28:32.280 our mock draft simulators we actually took him for the 1:28:32.360 --> 1:28:36.200 Patriots at the end of the first round. He's definitely 1:28:36.280 --> 1:28:39.320 one of those guys that was a little bit raw 1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:43.240 coming out of college. This is like raw, toolsy, physical guy, 1:28:43.520 --> 1:28:45.840 just like Keon. And it took him a couple of years, 1:28:45.880 --> 1:28:47.720 but last year the light started to go on. This 1:28:47.800 --> 1:28:50.000 is year three for him. Now it started to come 1:28:50.040 --> 1:28:52.200 on a little bit last year and now it seems 1:28:52.240 --> 1:28:55.040 like it's fully on in year three to start year three, 1:28:55.560 --> 1:28:57.720 so he's gonna be up against Vidarien Lowe. He likes 1:28:57.760 --> 1:28:59.840 to run, they like to rush him off the left side, 1:29:00.240 --> 1:29:04.960 and he's extremely explosive, excellent first step, good length to 1:29:05.080 --> 1:29:08.280 him as well. But unlike Keon, like he's not a 1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:12.080 bull rusher necessarily. He is a first step demon off 1:29:12.160 --> 1:29:14.920 the edge, but with some power. So i'd say it 1:29:14.960 --> 1:29:18.160 like almost like a mix between Kean White and Joshua Ucha. 1:29:18.280 --> 1:29:20.320 So that's a pretty scary guy one of mine. 1:29:20.360 --> 1:29:22.519 I guess I should have said this before because it 1:29:22.600 --> 1:29:25.200 was literally what we were talking about. But just Alex 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:31.160 van Pelt versus Mike McDonald. I'm fascinated by this storyline 1:29:31.200 --> 1:29:34.160 of like, all right, you have two brint coaching staffs 1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:38.240 brand new on their teams, yet this is just an 1:29:38.280 --> 1:29:42.840 old AFC North matchup. Yeah, between Mike McDonald's Ravens and 1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:45.200 Alex Van Pelt's Brown It's crazy how that keeps happening, 1:29:45.400 --> 1:29:49.160 like two weeks in a row. Yeah, So you know, 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:50.840 I was actually before he came in. I didn't get 1:29:50.840 --> 1:29:52.920 a chance to finish, but like looking up kind of 1:29:53.000 --> 1:29:55.320 how Van Pelt did against McDonald the last few years, 1:29:56.400 --> 1:29:59.479 you know, in Cleveland and Baltimore. But I just so 1:29:59.520 --> 1:30:01.400 they've run these schemes against each other, but they're not 1:30:01.479 --> 1:30:03.480 doing it with new players, new strengths and new weaknesses. 1:30:04.000 --> 1:30:05.960 I'm just interested to see how that plays out. I 1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:07.640 think that's kind of a cool little wrinkle to this one. 1:30:08.600 --> 1:30:10.800 So the game in twenty two, I'm trying to pull 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:13.400 it up, Yeah, was twenty three to twenty Baltimore at 1:30:13.439 --> 1:30:18.120 twenty twenty two. I mean, Jacoby Brissett starting against against 1:30:18.200 --> 1:30:22.720 this Ravens defense. They they they've had, they've held their own, No, 1:30:22.840 --> 1:30:25.600 against the Ravens team that frankly has Lamar Jackson and 1:30:25.800 --> 1:30:28.080 is like better than them, right, Yeah, like they've held 1:30:28.080 --> 1:30:30.799 their own in those matchups. They ran the ball okay 1:30:31.400 --> 1:30:34.200 in that game with Jacoby Brissett, but he was sacked 1:30:34.240 --> 1:30:36.840 five times in that game a couple of years ago, 1:30:36.960 --> 1:30:39.800 so that that was obviously the big thing. But it's 1:30:39.880 --> 1:30:43.479 again another week, just like last week, where at least 1:30:43.560 --> 1:30:46.479 AVP has a ton of familiarity with what they're gonna do. 1:30:46.560 --> 1:30:48.799 I mean last year that did big fourth quarter comeback 1:30:48.800 --> 1:30:52.040 against them in Baltimore, right, So yeah, and then they 1:30:52.080 --> 1:30:54.640 put up three points in the game in Cleveland. I 1:30:54.680 --> 1:30:56.920 think that was the first game with Josh Dobbs. 1:30:57.200 --> 1:30:59.080 Yeah the yor not with Josh Jobbs, with Don with 1:30:59.320 --> 1:31:04.720 the uh dtr No, no, no, Pat the other guy 1:31:04.880 --> 1:31:09.360 the other the other what the Pat Walker? 1:31:09.400 --> 1:31:10.080 Hang on Walker? 1:31:10.439 --> 1:31:10.599 Uh? 1:31:12.000 --> 1:31:12.639 PJ Walker? 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:14.439 Oh No, it was weak four. They just got spanked 1:31:14.439 --> 1:31:15.519 at Sean Watson the. 1:31:15.600 --> 1:31:18.360 Other But I'm like shouting PJ. Walker. I knows him, 1:31:18.400 --> 1:31:20.519 PJ Walker. I just like PJ Walker. 1:31:20.360 --> 1:31:22.439 Anyway, He's put up points against him before. 1:31:22.760 --> 1:31:26.080 Yeah, yeah they have. Uh, it's it's a tough matchup though. 1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:27.639 It's gonna be interesting to see. 1:31:27.880 --> 1:31:27.960 Uh. 1:31:28.240 --> 1:31:31.919 Last one here for me, Leonard Williams against Leyden Robinson 1:31:32.120 --> 1:31:35.760 on the interior. Leonard Williams had five quarterback hits last 1:31:35.800 --> 1:31:40.160 week against bow Knicks, like vintage Leonard Williams. He was, Yeah, 1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:42.479 he's still got it. He he has not lost a 1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:45.439 step or even half a step. Yeah, he's gonna be 1:31:45.439 --> 1:31:47.680 a problem. He likes to do a little you know, 1:31:47.960 --> 1:31:50.479 head slap move like two double swipe where he just 1:31:50.640 --> 1:31:52.920 kind of you know, goes inside out and then double 1:31:53.000 --> 1:31:54.960 swipes the guy out of the way and goes around him. 1:31:55.120 --> 1:31:56.720 It's kind of it seems like that's sort of his 1:31:56.840 --> 1:31:59.599 go to move in the pass rush. He's a good player. 1:31:59.680 --> 1:32:02.479 I like watching him play. And Murphy's not a slouch either. 1:32:02.640 --> 1:32:05.160 Rookie but not a slouch either. Their first round pick 1:32:05.200 --> 1:32:08.320 out of Texas. So Landon Robinson's gonna have his handsfuld. 1:32:08.360 --> 1:32:10.960 Michael Jordan's gonna have his hands full on passing downs. 1:32:11.320 --> 1:32:13.400 Those guys are gonna be stressed in this game. What 1:32:13.520 --> 1:32:13.920 else do you have? 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:17.360 Again? I are talked about this like ke On White 1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:20.320 against just the Seahawks line. They're gonna line him up 1:32:20.320 --> 1:32:22.960 all over the place. But Seattle's banged up up front. 1:32:23.120 --> 1:32:25.439 It's maybe a place the Patriots can find a mismatch. 1:32:25.600 --> 1:32:28.599 So key On White, whoever they line him up across 1:32:28.640 --> 1:32:30.880 from on any given plake, that's that's a spot Patriots 1:32:30.920 --> 1:32:31.280 gotta win. 1:32:31.880 --> 1:32:34.080 All right, Let's get to some of these emails. We 1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:36.840 can still talk Seattle. There's a couple of Seattle questions here, 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:40.240 but I think that was a pretty extensive breakdown of 1:32:40.360 --> 1:32:43.479 this matchup. But we can still talk to some Seahawks 1:32:43.600 --> 1:32:46.000 questions here. I want to get to this question now 1:32:46.000 --> 1:32:48.639 because I think it's a good one. David who listens 1:32:48.680 --> 1:32:51.880 from Madrid, Spain every week. He's always emailing in. He 1:32:52.479 --> 1:32:55.920 asked about Drake May, and you know, we talked about 1:32:56.000 --> 1:33:00.360 Drake May week five kind of being that target. Does 1:33:00.439 --> 1:33:02.839 it change at all that Jacob Brisseet won a football 1:33:02.920 --> 1:33:06.160 game and maybe continues to win football games here? So 1:33:06.320 --> 1:33:11.439 he said, basically, if Jacoby's around five hundred or better, 1:33:12.160 --> 1:33:14.599 does that push May's starting point down? 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:16.960 I mean, some of that's gonna come along with just 1:33:17.080 --> 1:33:19.240 what that looks like. Like he's a five hundred and 1:33:19.240 --> 1:33:21.639 he's playing like he did on Sunday? Is he playing worse? 1:33:22.040 --> 1:33:22.160 Right? 1:33:23.000 --> 1:33:24.519 As long as they're winning games, he's gonna have to 1:33:24.560 --> 1:33:26.520 buyd in the locker room. And that gives the Patriots 1:33:26.720 --> 1:33:29.640 more time if they want to pull the trigger for. 1:33:29.760 --> 1:33:32.559 Better or worse. It turns even more into the Miami 1:33:32.680 --> 1:33:36.280 Dolphins with Tua and Ryan Fitzpatrick in twenty twenty, where 1:33:36.360 --> 1:33:39.400 there was a divide in the locker room and a 1:33:39.479 --> 1:33:41.680 lot of people in that Miami locker room felt like 1:33:41.720 --> 1:33:44.439 they should stick with Fitzpatrick because he had them in 1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:47.360 contention for the first six weeks of the season, but 1:33:47.800 --> 1:33:50.640 the organization was behind to a big picture and that 1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:53.000 was where they went with it. I have to tease it. 1:33:53.080 --> 1:33:55.120 I talked to Drake May yesterday, did a piece on 1:33:55.200 --> 1:33:58.280 him this morning. It's up on Patriots dot Com, just 1:33:58.400 --> 1:34:01.640 talking about how what he went through last week and 1:34:02.040 --> 1:34:04.920 the practice reps. He did mention that he saw some 1:34:05.479 --> 1:34:08.760 first team starter reps early in the week with the 1:34:08.840 --> 1:34:12.000 Patriots ones. He called him good on good right, our 1:34:12.400 --> 1:34:15.479 first team offense versus the first team defense. And he 1:34:15.560 --> 1:34:17.599 did get some of those reps early in the week, 1:34:17.640 --> 1:34:20.679 he said. And then once it went into a real 1:34:20.960 --> 1:34:25.120 hardcore game plan prep mode, they went to Jacoby and 1:34:25.200 --> 1:34:27.840 he was on working with the scout team, But he 1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:32.240 felt like it was beneficial to just watch Jacoby go 1:34:32.439 --> 1:34:35.880 through it, Like what's the preparation, what's the meetings look like, 1:34:36.360 --> 1:34:38.720 what's the lead up to the game look like. You know, 1:34:38.800 --> 1:34:40.760 this was also a road game, so like what does 1:34:40.840 --> 1:34:43.439 that element of it add to it once we got 1:34:43.479 --> 1:34:46.560 to Cincinnati, Like, how does that change everything from a 1:34:46.640 --> 1:34:50.160 road perspective. The more that I heard him talk about it, 1:34:50.760 --> 1:34:53.160 the more I began to see some of the benefits 1:34:53.200 --> 1:34:56.280 to him sitting that even go beyond just him getting 1:34:56.360 --> 1:34:59.160 better himself before they throw him in there just learning 1:34:59.200 --> 1:35:00.760 how to be a pro, like learning how to do 1:35:00.840 --> 1:35:02.160 the little things, you know, some of the things that 1:35:02.240 --> 1:35:07.320 he said about you know, North Carolina has school right 1:35:07.520 --> 1:35:10.960 right now, it's just football and a lot of the 1:35:11.080 --> 1:35:15.680 preparation that goes to preparing for an NFL defense. He 1:35:15.800 --> 1:35:19.719 said it was significantly more than preparing for a college defense. 1:35:19.840 --> 1:35:22.439 So that's a lot that's a big undertaking. And then 1:35:22.520 --> 1:35:24.400 on the sideline, of course, he had the earpiece in 1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:28.640 and is basically playing the game mentally from the sideline. 1:35:28.720 --> 1:35:31.160 So I think it was it was beneficial to him 1:35:31.200 --> 1:35:33.599 in his long term development in terms of when he starts. 1:35:34.200 --> 1:35:36.960 I'd still say by Halloween. I'd like to see it happen. 1:35:37.680 --> 1:35:40.000 But look, if Brissette's winning, you don't pull a winning 1:35:40.080 --> 1:35:42.160 quarterback out just it's like a goalie and hot, right, like, 1:35:42.200 --> 1:35:45.400 you don't pull the hot goalie. So if they're get 1:35:45.479 --> 1:35:49.240 to mid October, let's call it week six is in, 1:35:49.280 --> 1:35:52.400 they're four and two. I don't know if they've made 1:35:52.439 --> 1:35:53.400 the switch, then they might. 1:35:54.040 --> 1:35:54.960 Let's get to foreign two. 1:35:55.040 --> 1:35:57.200 But no, I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm just 1:35:57.280 --> 1:35:59.080 you know, for the point of the argument. 1:35:58.920 --> 1:36:01.439 No, I've said this like just the him going over 1:36:01.520 --> 1:36:03.800 that film with Jacoby and understanding the decisions he didn't 1:36:03.800 --> 1:36:05.519 didn't make. Yeah, it's gonna save him a lot of 1:36:05.520 --> 1:36:07.839 growing pains on the field. I certainly think that's valuable. 1:36:07.960 --> 1:36:10.920 And if they can, if they can wait a little longer, 1:36:11.040 --> 1:36:13.680 like it can't hurt, right, I do still think he 1:36:13.720 --> 1:36:15.800 should play at some point to see. I'm still not 1:36:16.040 --> 1:36:17.599 on board with sitting in the whole year agreed. 1:36:17.680 --> 1:36:19.880 Like unlet's say all of a sudden are like on 1:36:20.040 --> 1:36:22.400 pace to win ten or eleven games and make the playoffs. 1:36:22.720 --> 1:36:26.120 I still feel like, if you're gonna be even best 1:36:26.200 --> 1:36:28.320 case scenario for this team, to me feels like the 1:36:28.400 --> 1:36:31.120 twenty twenty two team where they're like it's six to 1:36:31.200 --> 1:36:34.160 eight wins in that range, I still make the switch 1:36:34.320 --> 1:36:36.960 if that's all you're you're hovering around like because that 1:36:37.040 --> 1:36:39.080 you're not a playoff team at that point, so you're 1:36:39.120 --> 1:36:42.000 not really derailing anything too much. But we talked about 1:36:42.000 --> 1:36:44.240 it earlier, you know, during the summer. Kind of has 1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:46.840 flip flopped after one game a little bit. But do 1:36:46.920 --> 1:36:49.240 you lose the locker room by going one, you know, 1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:51.320 one way over the other. You do have to think 1:36:51.320 --> 1:36:53.519 about that sort of thing. If you're winning with Jacoby, 1:36:54.280 --> 1:36:55.960 some of the veterans in that locker room, some of 1:36:56.000 --> 1:36:57.840 the captains, those guys are gonna be like, what the 1:36:57.880 --> 1:37:00.439 hell are we doing if you take Jacoby out? So 1:37:00.640 --> 1:37:03.800 that's an element of it too. But I maybe have 1:37:03.920 --> 1:37:06.559 pushed it to like Halloween, Like was that week five? 1:37:07.240 --> 1:37:10.800 Halloween's probably like week eight or nine October. Maybe we're 1:37:11.040 --> 1:37:13.320 more closer to that range. He plays for half the season, 1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:16.680 get his feet wet. I don't know. I don't love it. 1:37:17.280 --> 1:37:21.200 I don't love it. Uh, Stephen writes in and he 1:37:21.360 --> 1:37:24.599 says that he had things that a lot of people 1:37:25.240 --> 1:37:28.840 have written that this game against Seattle is a winnable game. 1:37:29.160 --> 1:37:30.840 A lot of people, I feel like, have circled this 1:37:31.040 --> 1:37:34.120 home opener, Gerron Mayo's first game as head coach here 1:37:34.160 --> 1:37:37.360 at Jillette Stadium, the Seahawks coming from Seattle to the 1:37:37.439 --> 1:37:39.640 East Coast. Like a lot of people have circled this 1:37:39.720 --> 1:37:42.600 as a winnable game for the Patriots. Steven says that 1:37:42.680 --> 1:37:45.840 he disagrees because of some of the matchups, and I 1:37:46.240 --> 1:37:47.680 kind of tend to agree with him a little bit. 1:37:47.800 --> 1:37:50.679 I feel like not to no pun intended a little 1:37:50.680 --> 1:37:54.720 sleeping on Seattle in New England, Like maybe we it's 1:37:54.760 --> 1:37:57.080 a West Coast team. They always play it at four 1:37:57.120 --> 1:37:59.840 o'clock windows. Sometimes we get the game. Sometimes we don't 1:37:59.840 --> 1:38:02.040 get the game here on the East Coast. I'm not 1:38:02.120 --> 1:38:05.280 sure how much people have watched Seattle over the last 1:38:05.320 --> 1:38:07.799 couple of years. This was a nine to eight football 1:38:07.840 --> 1:38:10.120 team that missed the playoffs on the tiebreaker last year. Like, 1:38:10.200 --> 1:38:11.840 this is not a slouch of a football team. 1:38:11.920 --> 1:38:14.240 So I think the Bengals have a better roster. But 1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:18.720 where the Bengals holes are just match ups so well 1:38:18.800 --> 1:38:21.120 with the Patriots strengths. Yeah, and that's what I think 1:38:21.160 --> 1:38:24.080 you saw happen. That's not the case with Seattle. Like 1:38:24.240 --> 1:38:27.040 Seattle's better against the run, They're better at running the football, 1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:30.479 they can spread the ball out more on offense. There's 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:32.559 gonna test the Patriots in ways. I think the Bengals 1:38:32.600 --> 1:38:35.080 didn't that it's gonna be tougher test for the Patriots. 1:38:35.280 --> 1:38:36.200 Yeah, I agree. 1:38:36.200 --> 1:38:36.519 I don't know. 1:38:36.560 --> 1:38:38.840 I just feel a lot of people have had that take. 1:38:38.920 --> 1:38:41.680 We did our picks on the fanl I was the 1:38:41.760 --> 1:38:43.760 only one that picked Seattle to win this game, really, 1:38:44.240 --> 1:38:46.880 and I guess sometimes we can be Sunshine dot Com 1:38:47.000 --> 1:38:50.040 sometimes a little bit right. But I was shocked. I 1:38:50.160 --> 1:38:51.920 was pretty surprised I was the only one that picked 1:38:51.960 --> 1:38:54.760 the Seahawks in this game. I get that there's gonna 1:38:54.760 --> 1:38:56.760 be a lot of energy in the building, probably for 1:38:56.960 --> 1:38:59.840 Mayo and for you know, the season being back here 1:39:00.080 --> 1:39:03.519 home opener, But I don't love the matchup for the Patriots. 1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:06.400 I think it's a really good pressure defense that Seattle runs, 1:39:06.720 --> 1:39:08.320 and I think they have a lot of weapons on 1:39:08.400 --> 1:39:10.439 the offensive side of the ball. They have a lot 1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:14.000 more than the Patriots too. If Kenneth Walker doesn't play, 1:39:14.840 --> 1:39:17.000 it evens the playing field a little bit. If he does, 1:39:17.120 --> 1:39:21.439 then I be hard pressed to find more weapons than Seattle. Honestly, 1:39:21.520 --> 1:39:22.519 I kind of think he might play. 1:39:22.600 --> 1:39:24.400 I don't know. I wonder if he got I know 1:39:24.479 --> 1:39:26.000 they called it like an oblique. I wonder if he 1:39:26.120 --> 1:39:28.120 was getting a rest day like Ramandre was because he 1:39:28.120 --> 1:39:31.479 had a similar yeah workload. I I'll be interested to 1:39:31.479 --> 1:39:33.360 you what it looks like on the injury report today. 1:39:33.560 --> 1:39:38.160 Yeah, agreed, all right. Carlos Los Pats emails in He's 1:39:38.200 --> 1:39:42.040 got two questions for us here, he said, he asks 1:39:42.400 --> 1:39:46.360 how confident are we in the coaching staff's ability to 1:39:46.439 --> 1:39:49.040 prepare the team week to week, so like game plan 1:39:49.160 --> 1:39:51.320 oriented offense and defense. I think this is a good 1:39:51.400 --> 1:39:55.160 question because last week it worked exactly to a t 1:39:55.479 --> 1:39:58.120 what they planned. We talked about it off the top 1:39:58.160 --> 1:40:00.400 of the show. That plan's not going to work every 1:40:00.400 --> 1:40:03.599 single week. How confident are you, I would say, especially 1:40:04.160 --> 1:40:07.160 offensively defensively, I'm pretty confident that they're gonna be able 1:40:07.200 --> 1:40:12.280 to game plan it up offensively if teams stacked the 1:40:12.360 --> 1:40:14.800 box and they are forcing Jacoby Brissett to beat them 1:40:14.880 --> 1:40:17.080 with his arm. Like, how confident are we that they 1:40:17.080 --> 1:40:18.280 can actually go out there and do that? 1:40:19.680 --> 1:40:23.000 I would say more than that, Like you look at 1:40:23.040 --> 1:40:24.680 that Week one game. I love the game plan, but 1:40:24.720 --> 1:40:27.080 they had what like three months to put that together. Yeah, 1:40:27.200 --> 1:40:29.160 now they have one week. So this to me is 1:40:29.240 --> 1:40:32.200 the first real like game game plan week of the season, 1:40:32.240 --> 1:40:34.120 you know what I mean. So I'm really interested to 1:40:34.120 --> 1:40:35.960 see what it looks like this week and how many 1:40:36.040 --> 1:40:39.120 new wrinkles can they add? Excuse me, how much do 1:40:39.200 --> 1:40:42.640 they change going into this game? Because again, you had 1:40:42.720 --> 1:40:45.639 months to tinker and do this and that whatever going 1:40:45.640 --> 1:40:48.799 into the Bengals game. Now it's all right, install on Wednesday, 1:40:48.880 --> 1:40:51.160 get it set on Thursday, situational stuff on Friday, and 1:40:51.240 --> 1:40:53.960 you go. So it's a good question. I actually think 1:40:54.000 --> 1:40:56.080 this week will be more telling than last week was 1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:56.679 in that regard. 1:40:56.840 --> 1:40:59.200 Yeah, I agree. I think that's a really good point. 1:40:59.240 --> 1:41:02.479 And sometimes I feel like we make too much of it. 1:41:02.640 --> 1:41:04.439 But sometimes I feel like we almost don't make enough 1:41:04.479 --> 1:41:07.160 of it. Of like the whole offseason to prepare for 1:41:07.240 --> 1:41:10.000 one team, and the Bengals really didn't change very much 1:41:10.040 --> 1:41:13.080 in the off season either. I owe their offensive coordinator change, 1:41:13.120 --> 1:41:16.040 but their head coach is an offensive guy and all. 1:41:16.160 --> 1:41:18.559 It's still the same cast of characters for the most 1:41:18.600 --> 1:41:21.760 part with Cincinnati, so they kind of knew who Cincinnati 1:41:22.000 --> 1:41:25.360 was like for months leading up into this game. So 1:41:25.680 --> 1:41:27.840 it's a good point about this being a quicker week. 1:41:28.080 --> 1:41:31.559 I'm still skeptical or still not. They got to earn 1:41:31.600 --> 1:41:33.800 it with me about them being able to go game 1:41:33.840 --> 1:41:35.840 plan on offense. I don't know if they can do 1:41:35.920 --> 1:41:39.840 that yet. His second question is about Scott Peters. Early 1:41:39.920 --> 1:41:43.000 on in training camp, I gave Scott Peters some kudos. 1:41:43.200 --> 1:41:45.000 I was a little excited. I was like, Okay, maybe 1:41:45.080 --> 1:41:47.880 this guy just knows what he's doing. I am pretty 1:41:47.960 --> 1:41:51.160 confident in Scott Peters at this point. I trust. He asked, 1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:54.479 how much trust do I have in Scott Peters. I 1:41:54.600 --> 1:41:57.280 trust his ability to coach technique. We see it every 1:41:57.320 --> 1:42:00.760 single day. It's actually pretty dark and cool. Offensive line 1:42:00.840 --> 1:42:02.800 is usually right in front of us, which I know 1:42:03.080 --> 1:42:07.040 that Dante Scarnekia is in his woodshop at home being like, yeah, right, 1:42:07.120 --> 1:42:09.160 I would put my guys right in front of the media, 1:42:09.479 --> 1:42:12.439 but he's out in front of the media now, Scott Peters, 1:42:12.720 --> 1:42:15.360 and we hear it every single day, him coaching these 1:42:15.400 --> 1:42:18.720 guys up. Yesterday he was working on with Vederia Lowe 1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:21.040 on a certain type of pass at a sea set 1:42:21.160 --> 1:42:23.800 to like a forty five degree and he was working 1:42:23.880 --> 1:42:26.040 on it with him like in the weeds, like in 1:42:26.120 --> 1:42:28.479 the trenches, like talking about footwork and all that kind 1:42:28.479 --> 1:42:31.160 of stuff. What I'm more concerned about, And I know 1:42:31.200 --> 1:42:34.439 there's some rumblings that Ben McAdoo might have a hand 1:42:34.640 --> 1:42:37.840 in the design, the overall design. It's one thing to 1:42:37.920 --> 1:42:41.439 be a really good technique based coach. It's another thing 1:42:41.520 --> 1:42:43.840 to be able to design a game plan and a 1:42:43.960 --> 1:42:46.920 run game and a pass blocking and all that kind 1:42:46.920 --> 1:42:49.439 of stuff. We're talking about this out at practice a 1:42:49.479 --> 1:42:51.640 little bit earlier in the week. The way that this 1:42:51.800 --> 1:42:56.360 is often done is the OC and the play caller 1:42:57.160 --> 1:42:59.720 puts together the call sheet and he says, these are 1:42:59.800 --> 1:43:02.559 the forty things we want to run this week, these 1:43:02.560 --> 1:43:04.639 are the thirty five things we want to run this week, 1:43:05.160 --> 1:43:07.479 and then he gives it to the offensive line coach 1:43:07.560 --> 1:43:10.880 or whoever's responsible for getting it blocked, and they get 1:43:10.920 --> 1:43:15.040 it blocked, right. They go through the actual what protection 1:43:15.160 --> 1:43:18.040 are we gonna marry to this route concept? And what 1:43:18.280 --> 1:43:20.880 you schemer? Are we gonna run here and there? And 1:43:21.200 --> 1:43:24.040 I don't know about that element of it yet. Scarnekia 1:43:24.160 --> 1:43:28.120 and Ivan Fears were excellent at getting stuff blocked for 1:43:28.240 --> 1:43:31.280 the run game, like Ivan with the running backs obviously, 1:43:31.720 --> 1:43:34.760 Dante with the offensive line. I don't know where Scott 1:43:34.880 --> 1:43:37.599 Peters is in terms of that. That might be more 1:43:37.680 --> 1:43:41.160 Ben mcadow's perview with this coaching staff right now, but 1:43:41.280 --> 1:43:43.760 that remains to be seen to me right now. It's 1:43:43.840 --> 1:43:46.920 like how they're gonna get everything blocked schematically and kind 1:43:46.920 --> 1:43:48.080 of from the bird's eye view. 1:43:48.360 --> 1:43:50.439 And that's again goes to what I talked about earlier, 1:43:50.560 --> 1:43:53.880 just with looking at this week, you finally saw we 1:43:54.000 --> 1:43:56.599 talked about all summer. You can't really evaluate the offensive 1:43:56.600 --> 1:43:58.960 line to they're in games. You saw it, now, what 1:43:59.040 --> 1:43:59.920 are you gonna change about it? 1:44:00.560 --> 1:44:05.400 Yep? Absolutely all right. Adam asks from California. He has 1:44:05.439 --> 1:44:10.240 two questions. Number One, he saw, we all saw Xavier 1:44:10.320 --> 1:44:14.240 Worthy shot out of a cannon on that jet sweep 1:44:14.280 --> 1:44:17.200 the other day, and the opener thanked the Buffalo Bills 1:44:17.240 --> 1:44:19.320 for that one. Thanked the Buffalo Bills for that one. 1:44:19.920 --> 1:44:24.400 And he asks if we feel like Taekwon Thornton could 1:44:24.439 --> 1:44:28.200 be used on similar types of motions he has in 1:44:28.280 --> 1:44:30.080 the past. He's done it in the past, not in 1:44:30.120 --> 1:44:30.839 a high volume. 1:44:31.080 --> 1:44:33.400 He did it against alex man Pelt in Cleveland. 1:44:33.040 --> 1:44:35.080 Though, Yeah, did it against alex mn Pelt on the 1:44:35.120 --> 1:44:36.840 goal line right in Cleveland for a. 1:44:36.880 --> 1:44:38.479 Touch to the goal line one. No, I think that 1:44:38.640 --> 1:44:39.439 was a little bit longer. 1:44:39.840 --> 1:44:40.920 I thought that was a touchdown. 1:44:41.080 --> 1:44:42.400 It was a touchdown, but I think it was like 1:44:43.000 --> 1:44:46.960 fifteen to twenty yards okay, red Zolo, Yeah, Redzep. 1:44:47.880 --> 1:44:51.360 And then he did it. Remember last year against the Chargers. 1:44:51.960 --> 1:44:55.000 If DeVante Parkers stopped blocking down the field, otherwise he 1:44:55.000 --> 1:44:57.000 would he might have been able to house it, he's 1:44:57.080 --> 1:44:59.200 done it in the past. We obviously know about his 1:44:59.280 --> 1:45:02.040 injury concerned turns in terms of doing that at a 1:45:02.120 --> 1:45:05.760 high volume, but I suppose the same could be said 1:45:05.800 --> 1:45:08.479 for Worthy, right, he's also kind of a real thin guy. 1:45:09.040 --> 1:45:10.400 I would like to see it. I like to see 1:45:10.439 --> 1:45:13.040 them at least at least send Taekwon in motion some 1:45:13.320 --> 1:45:15.719 just as eye candy too, like just as window dressing 1:45:16.280 --> 1:45:17.200 would be nice as well. 1:45:17.360 --> 1:45:21.040 By a nineteen yard run, getting two yard pass passing 1:45:21.080 --> 1:45:23.599 touchdowny two touchdowns in that game. I remember the run 1:45:23.680 --> 1:45:27.120 looked like everybody was standing still. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 1:45:27.200 --> 1:45:35.080 mean this is they made a whole point of this, 1:45:35.400 --> 1:45:37.240 like getting the guy in the lineup because his speed 1:45:37.360 --> 1:45:39.800 and his big play ability and all that. Like that 1:45:39.920 --> 1:45:42.040 doesn't need to just be go balls. There's probably gonna 1:45:42.040 --> 1:45:43.439 be a lot of it, but it doesn't need to 1:45:43.520 --> 1:45:45.080 just be go routes. You can have him doing other 1:45:45.120 --> 1:45:48.640 things too, So I think he yeah, I think that 1:45:48.720 --> 1:45:50.800 they should kind of expand his role a little bit. 1:45:51.280 --> 1:45:54.919 So second question was about the scheme with avp's installing, 1:45:55.040 --> 1:45:57.120 and we talked a little bit about this, how I 1:45:57.200 --> 1:46:00.280 didn't love some of the rudimentariness of it, but he 1:46:00.479 --> 1:46:03.760 just one thing I'd also mention are the players made 1:46:03.760 --> 1:46:05.880 a big point of this after the game to give 1:46:05.960 --> 1:46:08.200 kudos to Remandre because Rimandre, I guess, went up to 1:46:08.240 --> 1:46:10.800 Alex Van Pelton said like, let's run downhill, let's stop with. 1:46:10.840 --> 1:46:14.240 The I thinks it was even in that that my 1:46:14.479 --> 1:46:15.800 dad put in the mic up. He's like, he gave 1:46:15.840 --> 1:46:16.960 me the ball, like yeah, you finish this. 1:46:17.200 --> 1:46:22.559 Yeah. Yeah. So I'm still very, very skeptical about them 1:46:22.640 --> 1:46:26.080 being a an e fision or a good outside zone 1:46:26.160 --> 1:46:28.360 rushing team. I just don't know if they have the 1:46:28.400 --> 1:46:31.360 personnel for it. I'm less skeptical now than I was 1:46:32.000 --> 1:46:34.760 before about Remandre because I think Remandre might just be 1:46:35.200 --> 1:46:37.360 primed for a big year no matter what blocking the 1:46:37.400 --> 1:46:40.800 scheme is running. But just in terms of their blockers, 1:46:41.120 --> 1:46:43.400 like I just don't love it for their personnel. I 1:46:43.520 --> 1:46:46.479 still don't up front. It just doesn't seem like they 1:46:46.560 --> 1:46:49.679 have the athletes for it. Like frankly, the best outside 1:46:49.760 --> 1:46:51.920 zone run blocker on the team right now is Michael Jordan, 1:46:52.240 --> 1:46:54.599 which which tells you a lot like it. It doesn't 1:46:54.640 --> 1:46:57.120 seem to fit the other guys. So that being said, 1:46:58.320 --> 1:47:00.760 I like the fact that they justed that they went 1:47:00.840 --> 1:47:02.479 to duo and they went to some of their gap 1:47:02.520 --> 1:47:05.799 plays and they got downhill. I wonder if they continue 1:47:05.800 --> 1:47:08.360 to adjust and move even further away from outside zone. 1:47:08.520 --> 1:47:10.519 I know that that's what Van Pelt wants to do, 1:47:10.800 --> 1:47:13.080 like that's like his real bread and butter. I just 1:47:13.120 --> 1:47:15.200 don't I still don't really fully believe they have the 1:47:15.240 --> 1:47:15.880 horses for it. 1:47:16.160 --> 1:47:18.880 Yeah, I mean, Peters talked about this morning and kind 1:47:18.960 --> 1:47:20.960 of said that you have your main thing, but you're 1:47:21.000 --> 1:47:24.679 gonna run what works, and if outside zone is not working, 1:47:24.760 --> 1:47:26.800 they can't keep doing it, whether they want to or not. 1:47:26.920 --> 1:47:28.400 If it's not working, you can't keep running it. 1:47:29.160 --> 1:47:34.600 Yeah. I so they said that. They mentioned that Cincinnati 1:47:34.760 --> 1:47:38.519 was run blitzing a lot because they were expecting outside zone. 1:47:38.560 --> 1:47:41.320 And the one thing that kills outside zone is penetration, right, 1:47:41.400 --> 1:47:44.360 you know, That's what really kills that system. That's why 1:47:44.400 --> 1:47:46.360 I remember in the Super Bowl against the Rams, Bills 1:47:46.439 --> 1:47:49.160 yell and get vertical, get vertical, right, because that's right. 1:47:49.400 --> 1:47:52.200 You shoot gaps against outside zone, you get in the backfield. 1:47:52.720 --> 1:47:55.120 That could be really detrimental to the scheme. So the 1:47:55.200 --> 1:47:57.760 Bengals were run blitzing guys to try to put them 1:47:57.800 --> 1:47:59.960 through the line of scrimmage to try to blow it up. 1:48:00.160 --> 1:48:02.200 So what do you do to counter that? You get downhill, 1:48:02.280 --> 1:48:04.280 you get you get bodies, you get hats on them, 1:48:04.360 --> 1:48:05.599 and then you move them off the ball. 1:48:06.200 --> 1:48:07.360 So I like it. 1:48:07.479 --> 1:48:09.479 I like the downhill stuff. They need to dress it 1:48:09.560 --> 1:48:11.439 up a little bit better for my liking, but I 1:48:11.800 --> 1:48:12.439 like what they're doing. 1:48:12.520 --> 1:48:14.519 I mean, you know me, run the damn ball, put 1:48:14.560 --> 1:48:16.200 it between the tackles, put your head down and go. 1:48:16.439 --> 1:48:18.120 Run the damn ball. I like it all right. 1:48:18.320 --> 1:48:22.559 Oh look Evan Lazar saying run the damn ball. 1:48:22.640 --> 1:48:23.080 I like it. 1:48:23.200 --> 1:48:24.400 Can we please like clip that? 1:48:24.960 --> 1:48:27.240 It's true. I can't believe I heard that. I said 1:48:27.280 --> 1:48:31.000 two nice things today. Heard that I said, Remandre Maddern 1:48:31.080 --> 1:48:32.360 and I said run the damn ball. 1:48:32.439 --> 1:48:35.280 That wasn't even like nice, that was like excited. You 1:48:35.360 --> 1:48:35.920 were exciting. 1:48:36.640 --> 1:48:38.400 Yeah, I thank you, Sandra. 1:48:38.520 --> 1:48:40.120 I might just to get you one of those who 1:48:40.360 --> 1:48:42.400 has it, Marshall Lynch, you with the hats or yeah, 1:48:42.960 --> 1:48:44.200 run the damn ball. I love it. 1:48:44.360 --> 1:48:46.599 Do you know who? I get confused a lot? Sandra 1:48:46.680 --> 1:48:49.759 Bullock and Julia Roberts. I feel like they're the same person. 1:48:51.000 --> 1:48:52.880 Who's the one who is Like if you switch them 1:48:52.920 --> 1:48:55.599 in movies, they would kind of just act the same, right, 1:48:56.840 --> 1:48:59.320 it's really the same. That's Sandra Bullock though she's run 1:48:59.400 --> 1:48:59.920 the damn ball. 1:49:00.280 --> 1:49:00.640 I know that. 1:49:00.840 --> 1:49:02.680 I put Hillary's Hillary swank in that gay. 1:49:02.760 --> 1:49:05.439 Yeah, they're all kind of in that same category. Yeah. Look, 1:49:06.080 --> 1:49:07.880 I'm all for running the ball. I think this is 1:49:07.920 --> 1:49:11.040 a misconception of me. I am all for running the ball, 1:49:12.040 --> 1:49:16.080 but the run game needs to marry to the pass game. 1:49:16.200 --> 1:49:18.400 Like if you're gonna run the ball and you're gonna 1:49:18.439 --> 1:49:22.360 run it thirty five times, that can work if you're 1:49:23.120 --> 1:49:26.760 hitting ten explosives off of play action tens a little 1:49:26.800 --> 1:49:30.000 bit much five explosives off of play action, Like that's 1:49:30.200 --> 1:49:32.840 that's the element that needs to be there. That even 1:49:33.000 --> 1:49:36.599 like they're not an outside zone West Coast Shanah entry team, 1:49:36.840 --> 1:49:39.760 the Detroit Lions, Like that's what they do, right, They 1:49:39.880 --> 1:49:43.360 run the ball a ton, but it's all married together 1:49:43.479 --> 1:49:45.439 so that golf can play action and then push the 1:49:45.520 --> 1:49:47.639 ball down the field off of it. If they get 1:49:47.760 --> 1:49:50.599 that sequence and going, I'm a happy guy. If all 1:49:50.640 --> 1:49:53.679 it is is just running the ball, then I'm not happy. There. 1:49:53.720 --> 1:49:55.599 You go, All right, how's that good? Is that enough 1:49:55.640 --> 1:49:58.439 compliments for your running game? All right, A couple more 1:49:58.560 --> 1:50:00.880 questions here and we'll get to the Aldred here in 1:50:00.920 --> 1:50:06.400 the second two. To wrap it up, Christopher Susa asks 1:50:06.800 --> 1:50:10.040 about Gonzo and he just said, uh, you know how 1:50:10.400 --> 1:50:12.519 what's his ceiling? You know, do we think that Gonza 1:50:12.720 --> 1:50:15.519 Gonzo could be truly one of the best, you know, 1:50:15.640 --> 1:50:17.040 premier corners in the NFL. 1:50:17.479 --> 1:50:19.200 He hasn't give me any reason to think he can't be. 1:50:19.520 --> 1:50:21.880 I mean it's that simple. Like he's he's we went 1:50:21.920 --> 1:50:23.760 through the five receivers he's faced, and he's held his 1:50:23.840 --> 1:50:26.360 own against every one of them. He's looked as good 1:50:26.360 --> 1:50:29.080 as any corner that's come here since it's come through here, 1:50:29.160 --> 1:50:31.600 since Gilmore. Yeah, he hasn't give me any reason not 1:50:31.680 --> 1:50:33.559 to think so, outside of it just staying healthy. 1:50:34.240 --> 1:50:39.120 It really, I genuinely feel like everybody's waiting for a 1:50:39.160 --> 1:50:41.439 shoot to drop with Gonzo where he just has a 1:50:41.520 --> 1:50:44.080 bad game, because he's yet to really truly have a 1:50:44.200 --> 1:50:47.639 bad game. Yeah, And we were talking about him earlier 1:50:47.760 --> 1:50:50.679 on the on the show, somebody emailed into Patriots Unfiltered 1:50:50.720 --> 1:50:53.560 and asked kind of a similar question about Uh, I 1:50:53.600 --> 1:50:54.280 think it was speed. 1:50:54.920 --> 1:50:55.200 You know s. 1:50:55.600 --> 1:50:57.960 Yeah, he said that he's still a little bit skeptical 1:50:58.280 --> 1:51:01.800 about Gonzo's see you know, and how good Gonzo can be, 1:51:02.200 --> 1:51:03.800 and some of the panel agreed with him, and I 1:51:03.920 --> 1:51:07.640 was he has not shown anything yet to suggest that 1:51:07.720 --> 1:51:09.200 he's not gonna be anything but a great. 1:51:09.080 --> 1:51:11.160 You ask what his ceiling is, like, that's his ceiling. Now, 1:51:11.200 --> 1:51:13.880 can he keep this up? It's a very high level 1:51:13.880 --> 1:51:15.920 of play to keep up. The majority of people can't. 1:51:16.040 --> 1:51:19.679 But we're talking ceiling, which is hypothetically, what's the best 1:51:19.720 --> 1:51:22.240 he could possibly be? Can't really be any better than this? 1:51:22.560 --> 1:51:26.840 Yeah, It just that position too often lends itself to 1:51:26.920 --> 1:51:29.439 guys just being awesome right out of the gate and 1:51:29.560 --> 1:51:34.560 really never regressing Ye Sauce Gardner, Patrick Surtan, Denzel Ward, Like, 1:51:34.920 --> 1:51:36.960 these guys just came into the league and were just 1:51:37.080 --> 1:51:40.519 good right like almost right away and have been good 1:51:40.600 --> 1:51:43.719 the whole entire time. So sometimes when that it clicks 1:51:43.800 --> 1:51:46.280 for you at that position and you're just a dude 1:51:46.479 --> 1:51:49.160 at that cornerback spot, you're just a guy, like you're 1:51:49.240 --> 1:51:51.000 just one of those guys that can just do that. 1:51:51.760 --> 1:51:55.040 I wonder if Gonzo's in that category. And some of 1:51:55.080 --> 1:51:57.200 the things that about him when the draft seem to 1:51:57.240 --> 1:52:00.439 be so overblown, you know, the toughness and the alpha 1:52:00.720 --> 1:52:03.000 and like all that kind of stuff that had him 1:52:03.040 --> 1:52:05.080 fall in the draft. I think we're looking at it 1:52:05.200 --> 1:52:08.599 now like that was probably overblog. Yeah, all right, let's 1:52:08.600 --> 1:52:10.840 take Eldrid and then we'll wrap it up. Eldred is 1:52:10.880 --> 1:52:12.559 in North Carolina. What's up, Beldrid? 1:52:15.000 --> 1:52:16.639 There it is today? 1:52:17.160 --> 1:52:17.720 Good? How are you? 1:52:17.960 --> 1:52:18.120 Hey? 1:52:18.200 --> 1:52:20.800 I got it's fun. I got a question for you, Evan, 1:52:20.840 --> 1:52:24.120 And Hey, I didn't get to see the game much 1:52:24.120 --> 1:52:27.360 because I had to work Sunday. But I'm wondering about 1:52:27.400 --> 1:52:31.000 the wire receivers. Are they getting open against spaces? And 1:52:31.080 --> 1:52:34.240 he is the y receivers coaching them better or did 1:52:34.320 --> 1:52:36.240 he to do better? And now I take it off 1:52:36.280 --> 1:52:37.800 the air, buddies, good to talk to you. 1:52:37.960 --> 1:52:41.120 Thank you, Thanks Eldrid. Thanks for the call. So the receivers, 1:52:41.160 --> 1:52:43.160 and I'm sorry I didn't hear it one hundred percent, 1:52:43.200 --> 1:52:44.920 but I think he was asking about the receivers getting 1:52:44.960 --> 1:52:46.320 opened down the field and things like that. 1:52:46.560 --> 1:52:46.800 Yeah. 1:52:47.200 --> 1:52:49.280 So I think the biggest thing what I saw with 1:52:49.439 --> 1:52:52.280 them is no, they're not going out there and creating 1:52:52.400 --> 1:52:56.639 like loads of separation from their receiver position. But there 1:52:56.720 --> 1:53:00.719 were some opportunities, mainly for Jalen Polk that Jalen Pulk 1:53:00.760 --> 1:53:02.800 got open about half a dozen times in this game 1:53:02.880 --> 1:53:05.320 and didn't get the ball. So hopefully you go back 1:53:05.360 --> 1:53:07.040 next week or the week you know, you start to 1:53:07.080 --> 1:53:10.560 look for those opportunities moving forward. Are they gonna be 1:53:10.600 --> 1:53:13.920 a great receiving corps? Probably not right, They're not gonna 1:53:14.080 --> 1:53:18.200 They're not gonna come out like Gangbusters and surprise us all. Necessarily, 1:53:19.000 --> 1:53:24.320 it's a fine margin with this group because every NFL 1:53:24.439 --> 1:53:27.280 tape you can probably look at and see half a 1:53:27.360 --> 1:53:29.559 dozen plays that you would want back when you watch 1:53:29.640 --> 1:53:33.519 the film. The great teams that have great receivers, it's 1:53:33.920 --> 1:53:37.920 two dozen plays, right the Patriots it's maybe six to 1:53:37.960 --> 1:53:40.560 eight plays a game, So that that's the difference for 1:53:40.640 --> 1:53:44.040 the Patriots. But yeah, it's on our all of our radars. 1:53:44.080 --> 1:53:46.080 I think about this receiving group and if they're gonna 1:53:46.200 --> 1:53:47.559 actually be better this year, and I. 1:53:47.640 --> 1:53:49.720 Just think once they get the pass blocking figure out, 1:53:49.760 --> 1:53:51.400 that'll help because it'll give them more time to find 1:53:51.439 --> 1:53:52.920 some of these guys that are open. The quarterback on 1:53:53.040 --> 1:53:55.720 field is rush, So yeah, it all starts with that 1:53:55.800 --> 1:53:57.880 pass blocking. It all starts from there. Nothing's changed in 1:53:57.920 --> 1:53:58.320 that regard. 1:53:58.680 --> 1:54:01.840 All right, Well, that about does it here. We will 1:54:01.880 --> 1:54:05.680 be back next Thursday for another edition here, No, we 1:54:05.840 --> 1:54:10.360 won't good call. So we're gonna be on Tuesday, I believe, right, Morrell. 1:54:10.800 --> 1:54:14.160 I believe it's Tuesday that we're gonna. Yeah, we're gonna 1:54:14.200 --> 1:54:16.880 do the show. We'll see what time we're scheduled to 1:54:17.000 --> 1:54:20.160 leave on Wednesday maybe, but Tuesday, I think is what 1:54:20.240 --> 1:54:24.360 we're gonna lock in and we're gonna do it Tuesday afternoon, 1:54:24.520 --> 1:54:27.120 so because of the Thursday night game. Obviously probably should 1:54:27.120 --> 1:54:29.080 have put that in there because of the Thursday night game. 1:54:29.200 --> 1:54:31.479 So we'll be back next Tuesday. I'll be sure to 1:54:31.520 --> 1:54:34.760 tweet it out as tweeted out to what time and everything, 1:54:34.880 --> 1:54:37.360 just because it's gonna be different than normal. But before 1:54:37.440 --> 1:54:40.000 we sign off, football season is here. It sure is 1:54:40.120 --> 1:54:43.000 in Solvent Tire and Auto Service kicks things off in 1:54:43.080 --> 1:54:45.960 a big way with our exclusive Go Pads tires sale 1:54:46.040 --> 1:54:49.480 now through October thirty. 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