1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles and ahead. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: He got jacked. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: This is the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: Sacked again. Kleis Campbell slammed the ground by Buddha Baker 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 2: The rage is brought. Do you buy Emergency Air? The 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: difference is we care. 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: Wanta grab by Tramick Right. That was spectacular and. 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: By Arizona Cardinals podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot Com slash podcast. 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: All Red Sea, Its Rising Up, Jimper you Rising Vision 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: Flurry Rage, take it over. 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: Here's Paul Calvic. 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: I'm ready. And Ron Wolfley. 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better than that. 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 5: A singular player in Cardinal's history, Pat Tillman was one 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 5: of the most unique people to ever walk amongst us. 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 5: In fact, a statue stands outside the Cardinals stadium for 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 5: all to see, but very few know what's displayed inside 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 5: Cardinals HQ. A very special big Red Rage. We call 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 5: it our Cardinals Folktales Legendary Locker Edition. The story behind 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 5: the saving from an almost certain destruction of Pat Tillman's 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 5: locker back in the day. You know, Cardinals Folktales Wolf 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 5: it's number one in the series, the story and rightfully 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 5: so of Pat Tillman's legendary locker that is now behind 26 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 5: glass outside the Cardinals locker room, essentially a museum piece. 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 5: And you also know how what we like to say 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: about Cardinals Folktales, this Emmy Award winning series, that you 29 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 5: can't spell history without the word story. But what about 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 5: the word folktale? What does that mean to you? How 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 5: would you define it? 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauli, that is a great question right there. Right Well, 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: first of all, folk tale, well, it's got to be 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: a story, So it's got to be a story about 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: a human being, and it's got to be a story 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: about a human being doing legendary things. That to me 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: is my definition of a folk. 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: Telling and that would definitely define Pat Tillman, someone where 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 5: football did not define Pat Tillman. We both know that. 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 5: We both go back to the days when he was 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 5: a star at ASU and then a Cardinal's draft pick 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 5: and to this day, Look, we're both asked about Pat Tillman. 43 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 5: I know you are, And what do you say when 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: people ask you about the late great Pat Tillman. 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: You know, for the most part, Polly, I just say, 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: let me tell you a story, because this really defines 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: who he is right here. And I tell him the 48 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: story about when I ran into Pats Holman who was 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: walking out of a bowling alley pushing a ten speed 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: a bike with him, and I thought it was so weird. 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: I said, hey, Pat, what's up man? How you doing? 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: You know? And he said hello? And I said, Pat, 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: what'd you do? Did you ride your bike here? And 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: he said to me, yeah, I did. As a matter 55 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: of fact, I said, what do you live around here? 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: He said, no, I live about ten miles that way. 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: I said, you rode your bike here and he said, yeah, 58 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm training for a triathlon. Paul, I remember that training. Yes, 59 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: he was training for that. And I was like, Tilly, 60 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: what are you doing. I mean, you're an NFL player. 61 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: Don't you have enough challenge right there? He said, why 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: are you doing that? And he said, I just wanted 63 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: to test myself and challenge myself. That just blew me away, Paul, 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: And yet it says so much about. 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: Pat he does. 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: In fact, all the Cardinals strength coaches at the time said, no, 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 5: don't do it. That's counterproductive to being a football player. 68 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 5: The explosion you need. You don't want to run marathons 69 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 5: and do triathons, and you know what Pat did it. Anyway, Look, 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 5: if you asked me about Pat Tolman, I think of 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: the epitome as someone who thought for themselves, right, Yeah, 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 5: they felt it was ultra important to educate yourself in 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: so many different ways. He had that insatiable curiosity about him. 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: You know, you think about Pat Tillman, not just the 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 5: football player, but the Pat Tillman scholars as someone who 76 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: had a three point nine gpa at ASU. He was 77 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: always driven by seeking knowledge, right, the need to experience 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 5: life and what he got out of his twenty seven 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: years you could only hope to get out of a 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 5: full lifetime compared to Pat Tillman. 81 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and for me, Paully too, it's just I've got 82 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: to bring it back, man, I got to bring it 83 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: back to the white lines, the football field, the grid 84 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: iron and mother grid iron, and how tough Pat Tilman 85 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: truly was as a football player. I'm sorry. I know 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: what he did and the way he gave his life 87 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: for our country in service to so many others. But 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: for me, the fact that he walked in between those 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: white lines as well and endured so much and absorbed 90 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: so much damage while giving damage on the football field. 91 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: To me, so impressed with him. That's my number one 92 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: takeaway from Pat. 93 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 5: He still holds the Cardinals all time record for tackles 94 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: in a season, more than two hundred and twenty tackles 95 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 5: in a single season. Think about that. This is a 96 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 5: seventh round pick in nineteen ninety eight. He came out 97 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 5: as a tweener. He was the Pac twelve Defensive Player 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 5: of the Year at ASU, But where was he supposed 99 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 5: to play in the NFL? So he lasted to the 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 5: seventh round. Remember his first training camp as a rookie Wolf. 101 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: We were in Flagstaff. He came in, he was held 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 5: bent on making a statement. He was telling him, you 103 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 5: need this physicality, you need my mentality, and he defied 104 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 5: the odds. He made the team and then started ten 105 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 5: to sixteen games as a rookie. 106 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: And then, of course his leadership and how he would 107 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: impact others. Paul guys around him were inspired by Pat 108 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: for so many different reasons. 109 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 5: We know his football career, we know his status as 110 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 5: an American hero, and we're going to get into all 111 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: that and his entire story, how his legacy really is 112 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 5: captured in Pat Tillman's legendary locker. When we come back 113 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 5: on this very special edition our Cardinals Folktales edition of 114 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 5: the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air, and welcome 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 5: back everyone into the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air. 116 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 5: I'm Paul Calvi s And as we noted off the top, 117 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: our game plan revolves around an encore presentation of Cardinals Folktales, 118 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 5: where we like to say it can't spell history without 119 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 5: the word story. Well, if you were to go from 120 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 5: the Cardinals radio studio about fifty yards to my left, 121 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 5: you would at the Cardinals locker room, and before you enter, 122 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 5: you would see a locker behind glass. And there's a 123 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 5: reason why that locker once belonged to Pat Tillman. So 124 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 5: as we look at the makeup of NFL rosters and 125 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 5: we see long shot plays and low round picks who 126 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 5: might be able to defy the odds, it's hard not 127 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 5: to think of the greatest Cardinals example of that. Ever, 128 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 5: at least to me, Cardinal's seventh round pick in nineteen 129 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 5: ninety eight, Pat Tillman. He was far from a lock 130 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 5: that year. He is considered a tweener between a linebacker 131 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 5: and a safety, but he had a plan make the 132 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: coaches take notice. And as someone who covered Pat both 133 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 5: ASU and the Cardinals, it was impossible not to notice Pat. 134 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: If it wasn't the hair blowing out of the helmet, 135 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: it was just his style of play with total abandon. 136 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: I mean, he didn't just wear pads, he used him. 137 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 5: So although we might know Pat's story, what's the story 138 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 5: behind the locker that was seconds away from total demolition? 139 00:07:47,960 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 5: Well here's that story, Cardinals' Full Tales legendary locker. Every year, 140 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 5: NFL teams conduct their fight for fifty three. That's the 141 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 5: size of an NFL roster, fifty three players, and those 142 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 5: names will always vary year to year, peck week to week. 143 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: But the Arizona Cardinals have a fifty fourth locker and 144 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 5: that name plate will never change. 145 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: Pat Tilman talk about a guy with a lot of heart. 146 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 6: Passion is kind of important word for me. Whether it's 147 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 6: you know, playing sports, or whether it's you know, just 148 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 6: living or whatever you're gonna. 149 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 7: Do, you should, in my opinion, you should be passionate 150 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 7: about or else. 151 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 8: Why why do it? 152 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 7: He was pretty legendary just for being the guy he 153 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 7: was that being true to himself, challenging people around him, 154 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 7: you know, never being dull or just taking things for granted, 155 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 7: or being complacent. He was always searching for knowledge. 156 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 9: I think it was important to save the locker. As 157 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 9: time goes by, you start to forget about things that 158 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 9: happened in history. 159 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 10: I didn't want Pat. 160 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 5: To be forgotten. Locker with the forever nameplate Pat Tillman. 161 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 5: This is Cardinal's Folktales, presented by seventy two sold where 162 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 5: we go in depth into Cardinals history all time anecdotes 163 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 5: through the personal recollections and memories of those who lived 164 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 5: in We hear their words, their voices. My name is 165 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 5: Paul Kelvic. I've covered the Cardinals since late nineteen ninety five, 166 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: the end of the Buddy Ryan era. I've been the 167 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: Cardinal's sideline reporter since two thousand and five. And as 168 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 5: I can attest, you may think you know some of 169 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 5: these folktale stories. But as I found out, as even 170 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 5: team historians have found out, we don't like this story. 171 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 5: This folk tale revolving around the most widely known figure 172 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 5: in Cardinal's history, Pat Tillman, and how his legendary locker 173 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: was saved with a last second interception from a buzzsaw 174 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 5: literally by a long time staffer. 175 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 9: I didn't really get the idea to kind of preserve 176 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 9: the locker until. 177 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: Six. 178 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 9: I always put it in the back of my head, 179 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 9: like I want to save this locker. 180 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 10: That would be kind of cool. And I just didn't 181 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 10: know when the renovations would take place. 182 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 9: And I'm sit Marry and lunch at Oreganos and they're 183 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 9: taking place. 184 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 10: So I had to do something. 185 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 11: When you know the cliche, if you cut somebody open, 186 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 11: they bleed Cardinal red. 187 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: That's that's Almo. 188 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 11: So it was fitting that, you know, he would be 189 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 11: the one that has his finger on the pulse of 190 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 11: that and in the moment immediately recognizes how significant this 191 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 11: is to preserve. 192 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 5: Before we get to that locker, the museum piece on 193 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: display showcase for all to see at Cardinals HQ, we 194 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 5: need to understand Pat Tillman. Notice how we didn't say 195 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 5: the football player Pat Tillman, because Pat was so much 196 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 5: more than an athlete. 197 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 12: Pat Tillman, what can I say? Just all around good guy, 198 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 12: not cocky, very confident, soft spoken, like the sing Desperado 199 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 12: and like that. 200 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 7: Movie immediately I kind of liked me on long hair. 201 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 7: He didn't dress nice. He was just such a unique, 202 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 7: genuine dude that people, you know, were endeared to him. 203 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 13: He was a different kind of guy. You know, he 204 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 13: was a flower child, if you will you know. Of course, 205 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 13: at the time, I didn't have any clue that he 206 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 13: would go on to to come to hero that he became. 207 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 13: But you know, he was a different type of dude. 208 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 13: He would ride his bicycle to practice every day. 209 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: Those are the voices of former Tilman teammates Larry Centers, 210 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: Jake Plummer, and all started by former linebacker Mark Maddox. 211 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 5: The thing is, if you asked Pat to talk about himself, 212 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 5: something he seldom did, I'm not sure that football player 213 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: would have made the top three things he'd say about himself. 214 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 5: To know Pat was to know that Pat was about 215 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: the next achievement, the next challenge, the next curiosity. Longtime 216 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 5: Cardinals beat writer and Arizona Republic columnists Kent Summers. 217 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 14: As a player just passionate to the point of borderline. 218 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 14: Is this guy human? I mean kind of human actually 219 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 14: play that hard and have such disregard for his body 220 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 14: and play the game that way? And never. I mean 221 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 14: there was just one speed, you know, one gear there 222 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 14: was you know, Steve McGinnis used to say that the 223 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 14: guy has a switch, not a dial. You know, you 224 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 14: just flip it on and it's the same, the same speed. 225 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 5: When Pat put on the pads, he used him, he 226 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 5: was all in. Like everything else he did. Pat never 227 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: did anything half speed, even when the drills were designed 228 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: to be half speed. That was Pat in his first 229 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 5: NFL training camp as a seventh round tweener. Just hit 230 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 5: anything and everything that moved. I watched it in person. 231 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: I covered that nineteen ninety eight training camp in Flagstaff. 232 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 5: I watched the decision makers take notice that the guy 233 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 5: in the football uniform belied the dude in the surfer 234 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 5: shorts and the flip flops. 235 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: Here's former Cardinals wide receiver Frank Sanders. 236 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 15: I think Pat probably deserved it. Flops in a surfboard 237 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 15: somewhere in some Oakley shorts, and I had a real 238 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 15: nice golden hair. 239 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 16: And that's it. 240 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 15: Like playing football. Never seemed like he should be there 241 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 15: until he put on his pads. Put on his pads, 242 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 15: A different person showed him. 243 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: I under say, you hit pretty hard. 244 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 6: Now a different guy. 245 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: I'm in the middle of the field that balls into 246 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: the plate. 247 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 9: Wow, off comes the helmet of the intended receiver as 248 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 9: he gets crushed back there by Pat Tillman. 249 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: Pat Tillman the blade. 250 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 12: He knocked him right in the helmet with a forearm 251 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 12: and just slapped. 252 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 4: That helmet off. 253 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 13: Even as a rookie, we used to have to call 254 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 13: him off, you know, some some practices we were, you know, 255 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 13: just fit up on the guy with the ball. But 256 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 13: he would come in and demolish the guys, which was 257 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 13: a really good tactic and it worked out great for 258 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 13: him because he got the coach's attention. 259 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 7: He brought that same kind of few mentality to the Cardinals. 260 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 7: I mean, rookies don't hit receivers in Ota days. But 261 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 7: he would lay some wood on a guy or like 262 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 7: put an elbow in him and get in fights. And 263 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 7: he really up the competitiveness during practice where guys didn't 264 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 7: like him because he would hit you or rough you up, 265 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 7: or do what he whatever he felt he needed to 266 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 7: work on, and they ended up respecting him because it 267 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 7: made everybody's level come up. He was a tone setter. 268 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,119 Speaker 5: Let's just say that Pat would routinely exceed the perceived 269 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: practice speed limit. 270 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: But that's how Pat forged an NFL career. 271 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 5: That's how Pat made the Cardinals as the two hundred 272 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 5: and twenty six player taken in the nineteen ninety eight draft, 273 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 5: how he caught the coach's attention even though he was 274 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 5: the reigning Pac ten defensive Player of the year. But 275 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: at the NFL level, was he still a linebacker? Was 276 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 5: he fast enough to be a safety? Pad made sure 277 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 5: none of that mattered, because all he did was turn 278 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 5: guys into tackling dummies that entire camp, even though it 279 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 5: landed him in the NFL's version of a coach's time out. 280 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: Former Cardinals head coach Den Stoven. 281 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 17: And the one I remember was a wide receiver that 282 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 17: he got in a fight with and entered up having 283 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 17: to throw them both off the field because they every 284 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 17: time the play started whether they'd be a fight between 285 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 17: those two at the end of the play, and so 286 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 17: I sent them out. 287 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 5: But as vin Stobin himself would admit later, the Cardinals 288 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 5: needed that mentality, that Pat Tillman brand of physicality and 289 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: fight that Tilman too, because remember the Cardinals were still 290 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 5: in the same division with those Cowboys teams coming off 291 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 5: Super Bowls and physical East Coast teams from tough towns 292 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: playing bullyball like the Giants and Eagles and Washington once again. 293 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 5: Former Cardinals quarterback Jake Plummer. 294 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 7: You look at someone like him, who was similar to me. 295 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 7: We were too small, too slow, not strong enough, not 296 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 7: smart enough, all these excuses for why we shouldn't be 297 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 7: there yet. We just, you know, we threw that all 298 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 7: side and said, yeah, we're supposed to be here. 299 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 4: He congratulated me. I guess he was one of my advocates. 300 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: He was talking me up. 301 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: So what the hell? 302 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: Where are you all right? 303 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 4: Thank you, appreciate your help. 304 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: Jake. 305 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 6: He said that I gotta gi him fifteen percent of 306 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 6: whatever I get because of his good talk, so it 307 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 6: might not be much. 308 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 7: So we had that chip on our shoulder and that confidence, 309 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 7: that quiet confidence about ourselves and belief in ourselves. So 310 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 7: we were kindred spirits right away. 311 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 17: Pat became a football player simply because of will and determination. 312 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 17: He wasn't really big enough, strong enough, fast enough to 313 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 17: play in the National Football League, but he willed himself 314 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 17: to become a good enough football player to overcome those limitations. 315 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 5: And it's something that Pat had already done plenty of 316 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: Define the Doubters. A quick personal note. I covered Pat 317 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: during his years at ASU and then his early years 318 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: with the Cardinals. Before that, I'd known a Pat through 319 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: our high school alma mater, Leland High School, in South 320 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: San Jose. We were both from the Alminant Valley, which 321 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 5: you might have seen featured in some of the Pat 322 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 5: Tillman documentaries. His future father in law was my high 323 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 5: school baseball coach. We were seven or eight years apart 324 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 5: or so, and I still remember my dad called me 325 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 5: during Pat's senior year of high school. Hey, you guess 326 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 5: what he said? Leland is in this section title game. 327 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 5: And I cut off my dad. I say, come on, now, Pop, 328 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 5: have you been drinking more of your red wine again? 329 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 4: Come on? He said, no, no, no, They've got this 330 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 4: Tilman kid. 331 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 5: He's a running back and nobody can tackle him, and 332 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 5: he's a better middle linebacker. 333 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 4: He's all over the field. 334 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 5: So when people talk about Pat's ability to inspire and 335 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 5: lift others, people rightfully cite the fact that the last 336 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 5: time ASU went to the Rolls Bowl, it was Pat 337 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: Tillman and Jake Plummer. During Pat's rookie year in the 338 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 5: NFL nineteen ninety eight, the Arizona Cardinals won their first 339 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 5: playoff game in half a century. And my response is always, 340 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 5: you know what, though Pat's greatest team achievement was leading 341 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 5: his high school to a title, because the degree of 342 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 5: difficulty there, Pat's high school hasn't come close to winning 343 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: before or after Pat. 344 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: Both towers so the World Trade Center have been hit 345 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: by aircraft. 346 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 18: Both are inflames. 347 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 15: It's a black smoke coming from both of the towers. 348 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: It's a horrific scene here. 349 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 8: There are choir crews just screaming into this area from 350 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 8: every conceivable direction. 351 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 6: You know, times like this you stop and think about 352 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 6: just how not only how good we have it, but 353 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 6: what kind of a system we live under, what freedoms 354 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 6: were allowed? 355 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 4: You know, my great grandfather was at Pearl Harbor, and 356 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: a lot of. 357 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 6: My family has given up, you know, has gone and 358 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 6: fought in wars. And I really haven't done a damn 359 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: thing as far as laying myself on the line like that, 360 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 6: And so I have a great deal of respect for 361 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 6: those that have and what the flag stands for. 362 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 5: The voice of Pat Tillman, September twelfth, two thousand and one, 363 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 5: the day after the horrific events of nine to eleven. 364 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 5: In fact, on September eleventh, Pat Tilman was at the 365 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 5: Cardinals facility and he wandered through the media area and 366 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 5: sat down to watch the news coverage as it unfolded. 367 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 5: With Cardinals beat writer Darren Urban. 368 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 19: He was like, what we do playing in the NFL? 369 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 19: He goes, We're worthless, We're actors. He goes, that means nothing. 370 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 19: This is this is so much bigger than that. 371 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 5: There's probably no better time to talk about a guy 372 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 5: who took nine to one one to heart and made 373 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: a life changing decision based on his feeling something he 374 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 5: felt he needed to do. 375 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 20: It was sort of the you know, man bites dog story, 376 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 20: like this doesn't make any sense. He's right on the 377 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 20: verge where in discussions with his agent about potentially extending 378 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 20: his contract and he decided, I'm going to walk away 379 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 20: from this. But you know, it was just six months 380 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 20: after nine to eleven, and it was only three weeks 381 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 20: after he got married to Marie as high school sweetheart, 382 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 20: and it was about one week after they got back 383 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 20: from their honeymoon. He joined the army up in Colorado 384 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 20: and then went on to become, you know, part of 385 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 20: the Rangers. 386 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 18: And one of the. 387 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 5: Leaders, Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell. As Pat had just set 388 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 5: a team record for tackles in a season, his jersey 389 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 5: was worn by fans all over town. Plus there was 390 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 5: the business of football, as Pat was on the verge 391 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: of cashing in on a mega contract and he literally 392 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 5: left it all behind. 393 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 14: My reaction was was just I was like, I just 394 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 14: kind of had this big smiling started laughing to myself, 395 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 14: like this is completely believable. I mean, I did not 396 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 14: expect him to join the army, But as I process it, 397 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 14: I'd like, yeah, yeah, Okay, of all the guys in 398 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 14: professional sports in the world, he's the one who would 399 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 14: do that. 400 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: Pat would leave that Cardinals locker room to join a 401 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 5: different team with a different plan, defending his country. And 402 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: his former teammates remember the reactions like it was yesterday. 403 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 5: Frank Sanders, Jake Plummer, and former head coach Ben Stoben. 404 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 15: I saw Pat coming out of the building and I 405 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 15: was coming in where the players only going in the 406 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 15: lower area. I was coming into the gates he was 407 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 15: going out and say, Pat, are you doing? What's up 408 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 15: with your contract? He said, bro, I'm probably gonna go 409 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 15: to the military. 410 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 21: I said what he said, I'm gonna go to. 411 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 13: The army and be arranged with my brother. 412 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: So what you go do? 413 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 15: What I want to serve my country, That's what I'm 414 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 15: gonna do. I say, brother, God bless you. 415 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 7: I just kind of like that sounds like, Pat, what 416 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 7: can you do? I remember getting a call from Mike Devlin, 417 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 7: who is my center, my rookie year and now is 418 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 7: a coach with the Cardinals. He said, Hey, you got 419 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 7: to call Pat's he's about to do something that you know, 420 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 7: I don't know if he should do this. 421 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: It's you know, he's. 422 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 7: Giving up all this money and giving up the game, 423 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 7: and I don't know. You should give him a shout. 424 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 7: And I kind of chuckled because I was like, if 425 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 7: Pat makes his mind up, he's made this decision and 426 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 7: his wife hasn't changed his mind, and what good am 427 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 7: I going to be to go try to change his mind. 428 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 7: I'm not going to piss him off before he goes 429 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 7: to fight for our country. I gave him a hug 430 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 7: and told him I love him. He'd be safe out there, man, 431 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 7: because there was no change in his mind. 432 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 17: Well, he's all in. He believed in what he believed 433 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 17: in and believed it very strongly and acted on what 434 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 17: he's bleased, where a lot of people have blafed, but 435 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 17: they don't act on him, and he did no matter 436 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 17: what he was doing, whether he's on the field or. 437 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 7: Not, he believed in himself so much so that he 438 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 7: did something that no one could fathom he would do 439 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 7: and go give up millions of dollars to go fight 440 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 7: for our country. Well, for Pat, it was just life. 441 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 7: That was what life was about, was doing what you 442 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 7: believed and living your life. 443 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 5: And what's amazing is as media friendly as Pat was 444 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 5: as a player, all the interviews that Pat did when 445 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 5: he was at ASU and the Cardinals, you can search 446 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: the internet all you want, good luck trying to find 447 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 5: any interview that Pat did as a soldier. Once again, 448 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 5: Ken Summers from the Arizona Republic. 449 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 14: One of the things that really resonated with me was 450 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 14: his refusal to talk about it ever. It's like, I'm 451 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 14: not in it for that. I'm not in it for 452 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 14: the stories. I'm not in it for a future movie 453 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 14: or to set myself up for business later. I have 454 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 14: my reasons for doing it. I'm not going to share them. 455 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 14: They're my reasons. 456 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 5: So Pat left his Cardinals locker behind for a foot 457 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: locker one more aspect of a person who could have 458 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 5: done virtually anything he set his mind to, and quite 459 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 5: often Pat did just that. Former teammate, a longtime Cardinals staffer, 460 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: Anthony Edwards, on Pat's selfless act. 461 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 16: To serve that's humility. I choose to serve my country. 462 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 16: I choose to go disc route instead of this one. 463 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 16: The more popular vote would be stay where you at, 464 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 16: continue to do what you're doing. But he didn't feel 465 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 16: that was enough. That wasn't satisfying to him, so he 466 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 16: chose the other. 467 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 5: And that's former Cardinals receiver Anthony Edwards, who said it 468 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 5: so well in Cardinals' folktales that Pat was all about 469 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 5: service to his team, to his community, to his country. 470 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 5: I think, like a lot of media members, we walk 471 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 5: into that Cardinals locker room, you can still hear Pat's laugh, 472 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 5: you can still picture him with his teammates. And it 473 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: was that locker of Pats that was spared the wrecking 474 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 5: ball from the demolition crew in last second, dramatic fashion. 475 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 5: And when we come back, we'll hear how that locker 476 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: saving play, how it unfolded, how Pat's lasting legacy is 477 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 5: memorialized in other ways, as we continue with his encore 478 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 5: presentation of Cardinals Folktale's Legendary Locker on the Big Red Rage, 479 00:24:51,640 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: presented by Emergency Air. And welcome back to our special 480 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 5: encore presentation of Cardinals Folk Tales Legendary Locker here on 481 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 5: the Big Red Rage, presented by Emergency Air on Paul 482 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 5: Calvic and if you go to State Farms Stadium, you'll 483 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 5: see the Pat Tillman statue. There's Pat Tillman's name and 484 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 5: number in the Ring of Honor. At Cardinal's headquarters, there's 485 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 5: Pat's locker, and that's what we're talking about here tonight, 486 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 5: the legendary locker. And last we left you here during 487 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 5: Cardinals Folktales, Pat Tillman was making that selfless decision to 488 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 5: leave football and a multi million dollar contract behind to 489 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 5: serve his country. As we know, Pat lost his life 490 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 5: in action while serving with the Army Rangers in Afghanistan 491 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: and not only hit all of us in Arizona hard 492 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 5: A lot of us vividly remember that April morning, but 493 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 5: our nation mourned as well, and we pick up the 494 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 5: story of how Pat's legendary locker still stands today with 495 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: a salute from Tom Cruise at the ESPIS. 496 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 8: The news came out of Afghanistan that an athlete turned 497 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 8: soldier was gone. And when we heard the news on 498 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 8: that April day, it stopped us all in a long 499 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 8: and profound silence. And we all know why, because Pat 500 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 8: Tillman was a transcendent figure in the life of this nation. 501 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 5: Word of Pat Tillman's death came out early on the 502 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: morning of April twenty second, two thousand and four. Fans 503 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 5: created memorials at the Cardinals facility and in Pat's hometown 504 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 5: of San Jose. I remember waiting a line at Sun 505 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 5: Devil Stadium to pay respects at an impromptum memorial. The 506 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 5: news hit with the ferocity of a Tilman tackle, and 507 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: it struck owner Michael Bidwell and fullback Larry Centers the 508 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 5: same way. 509 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 20: It was a I mean, it was a gut punch. 510 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 20: It was a kick to the stomach. And I remember 511 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 20: I was I was standing in my closet that day, 512 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 20: getting ready for work and to head into the office, 513 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 20: and my phone ranked, you know, and sent shivers down 514 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 20: my spine and we realized it's going to be shocking 515 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 20: news to everybody. 516 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 13: I was in Dallas on the golf course. I was 517 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 13: playing with a couple of guys who played in the NFL, 518 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 13: and one of them got a call or a text 519 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 13: and said, hey, man, Pat's him and just died in Afghanistan. 520 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 13: It was a jaw dropping moment. I remember exactly where 521 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 13: I was, like, I'm sure a lot of the teammates 522 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 13: can tell you exactly what they were when they heard 523 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 13: the news. 524 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 5: As news traveled through the Cardinals facility, it reached the 525 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 5: locker room longtime trainer John Omahandra. 526 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 22: It weighed on us, impacted us a lot, and thought 527 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 22: started going through my mind a way that we could 528 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 22: memorialize him or remembering in some fashion in the training room. 529 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 22: I went down to pr asking him to give me 530 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 22: a photo of Pat. I took it and had it framed, 531 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 22: put it up over the tape table. So every day 532 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 22: everybody that came in got overseen by Pat, and guys 533 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 22: would get up on the table to get taped and 534 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 22: they could maybe this past thought on trying to live 535 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 22: up to his standards of toughness and dedication, being a warrior, 536 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 22: just all the things that Pat was. 537 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 5: The Tilman player photo that John almahundro referenced. Well, if 538 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 5: you walk into the training room today, that frame picture 539 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 5: sits in this same exact spot, just like it did 540 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 5: days after Pat's death. 541 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 9: I think there's a wow factor to it. For instance, 542 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 9: JJ Watt when he signed with the Cardinals, he took 543 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 9: a picture in front of it. It means something to him. 544 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 9: He's very familiar with the story. He's involved with the 545 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 9: Pat Tillman Foundation. 546 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 18: I've obviously long been a fan of Pat Tillman. What 547 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 18: he stood for, who he was, and everything about his 548 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 18: legacy is unbelievable to me. So to be here, to 549 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 18: be walking the same halls that he walked, and to 550 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 18: see his locker was special for me. 551 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 9: It made me feel good to see him, the guy 552 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 9: of his level, standing in front of that, and it 553 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 9: means something to him. 554 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 5: That's the voice of Jim o'mahundro, longtime Cardinals broadcast producer 555 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 5: more than two decades on the job, while his father, 556 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 5: the aforementioned John Omahandro, spent forty two seasons as a 557 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 5: Cardinals athletic trainer. A couple of other longtime Cards employees, 558 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 5: Darren Urban and Dave Pash, give us the scattered report 559 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: on Omo. 560 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 19: I would paint Jim o'mahundro in this way he works 561 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 19: for the team, but I fel alike in a lot 562 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 19: of ways. Cardinals DNA is literally in him. 563 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 9: So I've been around the Cardinals my entire life. My 564 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 9: dad was an athletic trainer for the team for forty 565 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 9: two seasons. I like to say I was negative nine 566 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 9: when he started with the team, and so I was 567 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 9: literally born into this organization. 568 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 10: I couldn't imagine it any other way. 569 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 23: Cardinal football means so much to him. Outside of the 570 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 23: Bidwells who grew up with Cardinal football, I can't think 571 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 23: of anybody who has a closer connection than the Bidwell 572 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 23: family than the Ola Hundro family because of the time 573 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 23: and the energy that's been spent rooting for the team. 574 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 5: So when people ask how exactly did the Tilman locker 575 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 5: end up encased in glass when every other locker is 576 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 5: no moss, Well glad yes. Because remember earlier the story 577 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 5: that we thought we knew but didn't. Well, here we 578 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 5: go twenty fifteen. The Cardinals locker room. It's a hard 579 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: hat area, not your typical football helmets, but construction workers. 580 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 9: It's a day after the Super Bowl, kind of slow 581 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 9: around the facility. So I come over here to a 582 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 9: Reganos used to get a normal lunch, so I ordered 583 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 9: a slice and a salad, and I'm waiting for the food. 584 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 10: So I'm scrolling through Twitter. 585 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 9: I see a tweet by Darren Urban that alerts me 586 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 9: to the renovation starting at our tempee facility. So I 587 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 9: freak out. There's a photo with a destroyed locker on 588 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 9: the ground. So I had ordered my lunch, it hadn't 589 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 9: come yet, and I'm like, I got to get out 590 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 9: of here. So I throw twenty dollars down onto the 591 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 9: table and I'm out of there. I just run to 592 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 9: my car, drive down, get to the facility, run through 593 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 9: the parking lot, run through the auditorium, the weight room, 594 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 9: the training room, step into the locker room. The carpet 595 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 9: is all torn up. The glue from the carpet is 596 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 9: there and it rips my shoe off my foot. So 597 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 9: I'm hopping around the corner to see two lockers on 598 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 9: one wall and about four lockers on the other. There's 599 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 9: a guy with a saw walking directly for Pat Sullman's locker. 600 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 9: I said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, don't cut that 601 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 9: one out. That's Pat Tillman's locker. So that's what happened 602 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 9: and prevented it from being destroyed. 603 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 5: And that is quite a series of events. I mean, 604 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 5: think of how razor thin that margin was. One more stop, 605 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 5: like perhaps or almost stopping to unglue his shoe, and 606 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 5: that Tilman locker would have been turned into lumber. That 607 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 5: got the attention of Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell. 608 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 20: Found out an hour after it happened that Jim Olmahunter 609 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 20: was walking through and said, wait, don't touch that. And 610 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 20: so we're like, Okay, we don't know what to do 611 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 20: with it right now, but we're going to do something. 612 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 20: And then because we were doing a renovation of the building, 613 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 20: we looked for an area where we could put it, 614 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 20: and the designers found what I think is a perfect 615 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 20: entry area right outside the locker room. So it's it's 616 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 20: a perfect area, and it's really a landmark within our 617 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 20: building and serves as an important reminder for his sacrifice 618 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 20: but also his spirit. 619 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 9: Everybody who goes out to the practice field, they walk 620 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 9: by it. Everyone who comes in from the practice field, 621 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 9: they walk by it. And if you look at the 622 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 9: old foot front of the locker room, it's literally on 623 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 9: the other side of the wall, kind of diagonal from 624 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 9: where it was, and I think that's pretty cool. 625 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 10: It's kind of hollow ground in a way. 626 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 5: Remember it'd been over a dozen years since Pat had 627 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 5: left his locker, so over those years, a number of 628 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 5: other players use that locker. 629 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 9: Pat's final year in the locker room was two thousand 630 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 9: and one, so every year after that, I would kind 631 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 9: of look to see who had that locker, and I'd 632 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 9: make it a point to go up to him and say, Hey, 633 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 9: you know who's locker you are sitting in, And they're like, 634 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 9: who said Pat Tillman. Some of them looked at me 635 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 9: like I was nuts, Like what this is Pat's locker now? 636 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 9: Some that come to mind, Gabe Watson, former defensive tackle. 637 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 21: O Mahandro told me, you share the same locker that 638 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 21: Pat Tillman had. I'm like, are you serious? You know 639 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 21: you hear the stories behind them, and there's only a 640 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 21: few people that can say you're the same locker. It's 641 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 21: just honored to just be in any company with them. 642 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 9: John Fullington was a reserve offensive lineman who was the 643 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 9: final occupant of Pat's locker, and he was genuinely touched. 644 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 10: I told him, and he he was just like, I'm honored. 645 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 10: He didn't know what to say. 646 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 9: So, you know, you see guys that maybe had that locker, 647 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 9: then you see guys that in future years will walk 648 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 9: past that locker and you kind of get the idea 649 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 9: of what they might feel about it. 650 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 5: You know, the first time you see Pat's locker on display, 651 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 5: and as someone who sees it on a daily basis now, 652 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 5: it is a heck of a first impression that makes 653 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 5: for a lasting impression. Here's VPM meter relations Mark Dalton, 654 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 5: followed by former Cardinals Larry Centers and Anthony Edwards. 655 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 11: When you get to that spot, it's almost a universal reaction. 656 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 11: People just stop and conversation ceases and they just take 657 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 11: it in and there's like a solemn moment of reflection, 658 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 11: which is really cool. 659 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 13: Keeping his legacy alive. I think that's a big step 660 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 13: in the right direction. You know, the generations go on 661 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 13: and the people the players come, and the players go. 662 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 13: But to see him immortalize in that way and appreciated 663 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 13: by the organization, I think that's a really good move 664 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 13: of the team. 665 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 16: It's a reminder as a player that's leaving out of 666 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 16: the locker room, going to the practice field. Here's someone 667 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 16: that was dedicated, committed to excellence in whatever he did. 668 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 16: Just let us do the same thing and take it 669 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 16: to the field today and be our very best. So 670 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 16: it comes as a reminder of striving for excellence. 671 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 9: Each time a guy walks by, they're gonna see Pat 672 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 9: and his locker there, and remember, you know, hey, you 673 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 9: could be having a crappy day. You could be complaining 674 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 9: about little things, and then you see that and you 675 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 9: check yourself a little bit, say, Okay, there's thousands upon 676 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 9: thousands of men and women all over the world serve 677 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 9: our country, and you know they can't afford to have 678 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 9: a bad day. 679 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 10: We can afford to have a bad day. So you've 680 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 10: got it pretty good. 681 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 5: In the NFL, everyone is looking for impact players in 682 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 5: Cardinals team history, and that is going back more than 683 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 5: a century. Not a single player on the field and 684 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 5: off combined is at a bigger impact than Pat Tillman. 685 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 12: Pat Tillman was all about team and if you can 686 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 12: walk past that and not get something inside of you turning, 687 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 12: we got some issues. 688 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 23: Go back to the whole idea of you know, it's 689 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 23: not what you say in life, it's what you do. 690 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 23: And we can all talk, but ultimately it's what we do. 691 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 23: And I think the lasting legacy of Pat Tillman is 692 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 23: this is someone who did, who believed in something and 693 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 23: was willing to risk his life for it. 694 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 5: It's voice of the Cardinals day pass preceded by former 695 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 5: Cardinals linebacker Mark Maddox make an impact today When they 696 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 5: see Pat Tillman's locker, it says, challenge yourself to do 697 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 5: as much with your life as Pat did in his 698 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 5: twenty seven years. To me, that's what Pat's locker stands for, 699 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 5: and that's why it still stands today for all to see. 700 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 7: To me, when they keep his locker alive and his 701 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 7: legend alive, there it's telling the players to like, live 702 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 7: your trueness, be who you are, and like, hey, you know, 703 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 7: don't go against the grain just because you want to 704 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 7: go against the grain. But if you have a feeling 705 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 7: and it's a thought and it's something you believe in, 706 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 7: and if it's against the grain, do it and trust 707 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 7: yourself because Pat. 708 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: Was like that. 709 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 5: And there you have it, Cardinals Folktales legendary locker, the 710 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 5: one locker that will never change nameplates, the same locker 711 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 5: where we used to witness Pat reclined between practices, taking 712 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 5: a snooze to refresh for what was next. And that's 713 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 5: just one tribute to Pat's greatness that seemingly everyone has 714 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 5: a story. In fact, I'll share a quick one with 715 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 5: you here. I knew a guy at Asu went to 716 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 5: school with him, and he told me years later that 717 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 5: he was Pat's next door neighbor for a spell. One 718 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 5: night he got home from work, he pulled into his 719 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 5: driveway and he couldn't help but notice there's Pat on 720 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 5: his roof. His buddy of mine gets out of his car. 721 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 5: He's half stupefied and he yells out. 722 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 4: Ay, Path, what are you doing on your roof? 723 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 5: And Pat looked at him, just watching the sunset. 724 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 4: Dude, just watching the sunset. And that was Pat. 725 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 5: He took nothing for granted, and he inspired others to 726 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 5: do the same. But how do you convey that, how 727 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 5: do you pass that along? How do you honor that? Well, 728 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 5: the Cardinals do just that every day by putting Pat's 729 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 5: locker on display at their training facility. Thanks for joining us, everyone, 730 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 5: I'm Paul Calvic. This has been Cardinals Spolktales Legendary Locker 731 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 5: presented by seventy two Soul, thanks for listening. You know 732 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 5: it's stories like that, and so many people have stories 733 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 5: regarding Pat Tillman. 734 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 4: That's how his legacy lives on today. 735 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 5: If you go to the Pat Tillman Foundation website and 736 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 5: they state how Pat's life and principles and service, that's 737 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 5: his true legacy. How Pat's family and friends started the 738 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 5: Pat Tillman Foundation to carry forward that legacy. If you 739 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 5: go two days after his passing, it was the NFL 740 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 5: Draft two thousand and four, and then Commissioner Paul Tagliboo 741 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 5: wore a black ribbon with Tilman's name on it and 742 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 5: a helmet pin with his number forty. And there was 743 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 5: Paul Tagliabou while flanked by five Marines and Madison Square Garden, 744 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 5: and he told the audience quote, Pat Tillman personified the 745 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 5: best values of Americans and the National Football League. And 746 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 5: we know Pat's legacy is personified by Pat's Run, which 747 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 5: is held annually in tamp And when we come back, 748 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 5: we'll bring back and talk with Ron Wolfley, who covered 749 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 5: Pat watched all those games from Sun Devil Stadium, both 750 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 5: ASU and the Cardinals. As we continue with this encore presentation, 751 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 5: of Cardinals Spoke Tales Legendary Locker presented by Emergency Air, 752 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 5: and welcome back to this very special edition of the 753 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 5: Big Red Rage Our Cardinals Full Hotail's Legendary Locker Edition 754 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 5: presented by Emergency Air. Paul kelvc Ron wolf Ley and 755 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 5: the story behind the saving literally saving Pat Tillman's locker 756 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 5: from a certain destruction within seconds. 757 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 4: Wolf we heard the story man. 758 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 5: Of how our own executive producer, a longtime producer for 759 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 5: the Cardinals, Jim Almhandro, he saw a picture posted by 760 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 5: Darren Urban of the renovation of the Cardinals locker room 761 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 5: and he just ran a four three forty out of 762 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 5: the restaurant where he's having lunch, and if he would 763 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 5: hit one more stoplight, he probably wouldn't be able to 764 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 5: make it in time back into that locker room to 765 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 5: save Pat Tillman's locker. And as we say, there's fifty 766 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 5: three players on an NFL active roster. And then the 767 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 5: Cardinals have designated their fifty fourth locker where the name 768 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 5: plate will never change. It is behind glass. And it's 769 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 5: quite a story as to as it all transpired. 770 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paulie, you know what's incredible. You stop and think 771 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,439 Speaker 1: about it, and just the fact that Jim Almahandro would 772 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: be the guy, he would be the guy that would 773 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: actually burst in and save Pat Tillman's locker. You know 774 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: what a historian he is. He's the best game day 775 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: producer on the face of the planet. Yet at the 776 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: same time, this guy is a historian man for Cardinal Football, 777 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: and the fact that it was him who actually came 778 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: in and stopped them from literally cutting right into that 779 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: locker and everything that has happened to that locker, since 780 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: that's exactly what a folktale is, man, this is a 781 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: folk tale about a folk tale, legendary acts by human beings. 782 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 5: You know, players to this day see it for the 783 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 5: first time and it stops them in their tracks. Yes, 784 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 5: JJ Watt, most recently when he showed up, he stopped 785 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 5: that very locker. Dennis Gardek. We've talked to gard Deck 786 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 5: the Barbarian, about it, have we not, Wolts you know 787 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 5: he current players, you know, most of them are so young, 788 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 5: they've only read books about Pat Tillman. But it's what 789 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 5: that locker says to them, and to listen to them 790 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 5: tell it Wolf, It essentially means, okay, can you get 791 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 5: as much out of your life, out of your career 792 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 5: that Pat Tilman did, a guy who was barely drafted 793 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 5: a seventh rounder and then went on to achieve so much, 794 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 5: not only in football, but obviously in life itself. 795 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: You know, I love that, Polly. That is a great thought, 796 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. You know, you think of 797 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: Pat Tillman though the statue, of course, is what I 798 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: think of at State Farm Stadium and the Tilman Tunnel 799 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: at ASU, and you know, just the legendary impact that 800 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: this has had on so many football players and so 801 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: many Americans. The ultimate sacrifice of Pat Tillman and what 802 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: he did for this country and for everyone who serves 803 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: this country, and for his teammates as well. It's truly inspiring. 804 00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 13: Yeah. 805 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great point about this thatture, the Tilman Tunnel, 806 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,959 Speaker 5: how about the bridge on the Arizona Nevada border named 807 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 5: after Pat Tillman? The USO centers worldwide. I know it 808 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 5: was a couple of years ago. I was like the 809 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 5: fifth assistant coach for my son's little league team. Right, 810 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 5: everyone had to introduce themselves and they said what do 811 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 5: you do for a living? And okay, and who have 812 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 5: you interviewed, who have you interviewed? And I named Larry Fitzgerald, 813 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 5: Randy Johnson, old timers like Joe Montana, Michael Jordan, Lebron James. 814 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 5: But when I named Pat Tillman, everyone stopped and everyone 815 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 5: wanted to know more about Pat Tillman. That's how his 816 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 5: name resonates even today. 817 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: Truly, just an incredible human being. Paully. I know that 818 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: you and I over the years, of course, have talked 819 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: about our relationship just knowing Pat Tillman from time to time, 820 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: and the respect and the regard that we have for 821 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: him can't be measured with human hands. 822 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 5: When my son was born, actually I bought him a jersey. 823 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 5: It's the only jersey I've ever purchased for him, and 824 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 5: it's a Pat Tilman jersey because it's about so much 825 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 5: more than football. Football did not define Pat and under 826 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 5: service country and his status now as an American hero. 827 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 5: I hope everyone enjoyed that Cardinals Folktales Legendary Locker special. 828 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 5: Thanks Jim Amhandro for Ron wolfleyan Paul KELBC. This has 829 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 5: been the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air. 830 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: You've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented by 831 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: emergency air. 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