WEBVTT - Full of (John) Bull: Horatio Bottomley

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Zaren Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm doing pretty good about you?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, pal, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, you look good, you look like you're happy and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you got your energies all balanced.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, same with you. You've got a great or say

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<v Speaker 3>you have incredibly skin and a.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful aura in the beds of my nails.

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<v Speaker 3>Christine listen, Yes, you know it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>I do. So you want to be pointed out to

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<v Speaker 4>me a while back, this like couple that they're like

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<v Speaker 4>your crazy erratic friend or what it's like an Instagram

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<v Speaker 4>meme or these two comedians. Oh yeah, come in telling

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<v Speaker 4>a story?

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I wish I could remember what they're called, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't remember them either.

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<v Speaker 3>It's type B front now something else.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, your friend who's like always just coming in

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<v Speaker 4>with like you did wait what and they're very casual

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<v Speaker 4>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the guy, the one guy is always there's always

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<v Speaker 3>one that involves Wells Fargo Bank. Yeah, I'll find it

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere because I got to watch the.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah baby can get the interns of puzzing on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so I thought of that. With this story about this

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<v Speaker 4>girl named Caitlyn Maxwell. She's twenty two years old from smalltown, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 4>a place called Ellesville, population forty six hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 4>two souls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So she was out driving her twenty seventeen Dodge Challenger, Okay, yep,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was about nine forty PM when she got

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<v Speaker 4>pulled over by the police. So you kind of got

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<v Speaker 4>a picture going right so far I do. So it

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<v Speaker 4>turns out that that wasn't it. When the police got

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<v Speaker 4>up to the driver's side window, they found that old

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<v Speaker 4>Caitlyn Maxwell, twenty two years old, in her twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>Dodge Challenger, was driving buck naked among us.

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<v Speaker 3>You you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not all, Elizabeth, because then the officers noticed a

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<v Speaker 4>strong odor of recently smoked marijuana. So she's driving around

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<v Speaker 4>high buck naked in her twenty seventeen she.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinks, she says, Matthew McConaughey, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the cops looked down and they noticed a glock

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<v Speaker 2>handgun at her feet.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh dear, oh, at her feet, at.

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<v Speaker 4>Her feet the driver's side and her feet like in

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<v Speaker 4>the footwell. And then there was another glock wedge between

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<v Speaker 4>the passenger seat and the center console, like she didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get done hiding it. The cops were like, do you

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<v Speaker 4>mind popping your trunk? So they pop her trunk and

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<v Speaker 4>then they find a third glock and two AR fifteen's

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<v Speaker 4>that had been outfitted with this special switch that makes

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<v Speaker 4>them fully automatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Was very illegal. So the cops are like, where did

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<v Speaker 2>you get this? Like armory of weaponry, and please, here's

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<v Speaker 2>a towel. Put this on while we talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they find out.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, well, my boyfriend he uses a three D

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<v Speaker 4>printer and he makes these switches. And the cops are like,

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<v Speaker 4>where's your boyfriend lives? And they go to her boyfriend's

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<v Speaker 4>house and then they arrest him too, for making the

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<v Speaker 4>illegal three D printed switches.

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<v Speaker 2>Stocks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly like machine gun conversion kids basically. And so

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<v Speaker 4>he also had a small arsenal at his place, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Luckily apparently he was clothed. So yeah, I thought I

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<v Speaker 4>thought of those Instagram couple which I was driving my

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<v Speaker 4>twenty seventeen Touch Challenger and I got pulled over, and

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<v Speaker 4>then that's not the story at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Offense to dudes who drive a Dodge Challenger. We like

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<v Speaker 3>your chaotic energy. But you know, it's it's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Car that says, you know, like the Dodge hell Cat.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a few of them. It just says like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not afraid of you, officers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what.

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<v Speaker 3>That is ridiculous. And you want to know what else

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<v Speaker 3>is ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>Please? I got the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Selling lies, holding hateful rallies, and scanning people left and right,

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<v Speaker 3>only to wind up penniless and alone. That's ridiculous and satisfying,

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<v Speaker 3>if I do say so myself.

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<v Speaker 2>You just said it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous

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<v Speaker 3>caper's hests and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder

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<v Speaker 3>free and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you damn right.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm that the crooked politician is a total trope, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>But all the same, they do ridiculous things, and when

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<v Speaker 3>you're in the thick of them, it's hard to find

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<v Speaker 3>it funny. But time softens it a little, and at

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<v Speaker 3>least we hope and we can find the humor in audacious, opportunistic, vulgar,

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<v Speaker 3>narcissistic grift.

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<v Speaker 2>We can at some point there's a lot of grift

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<v Speaker 2>for the milk exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>At least I'm hoping that's the case for us in

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<v Speaker 3>the future with regard to our current state of things,

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<v Speaker 3>and the case for us today with someone from more

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<v Speaker 3>than one hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh some distance to the comedy is it? It's comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a tragedy plus timing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it equals comedy. The guy has a name that

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<v Speaker 3>sounds made up to American ears, Horatio Bottomly Bottomly. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like something I would do in the credits. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>Horatio Bottomly. He ends the world in East London in

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen sixty and the world did not really roll out

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<v Speaker 3>the welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt for this, hey, mister Bottomley.

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<v Speaker 3>No, his father was a tailor's cutter and also a

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<v Speaker 3>serious alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 2>And in that order, I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, well he wound up in an asylum with

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<v Speaker 3>the tremors and all, and he died when Horatio was

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<v Speaker 3>just three.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's quite the blow.

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<v Speaker 3>His mother followed shortly after passing away, and so he

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<v Speaker 3>was an orphan by the time it was five. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 3>so funny, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, somebody contact Dickens.

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<v Speaker 3>So there was how one interesting branch of the family tree.

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<v Speaker 3>His mother's side sat squarely in the Victorian radical left.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>His uncle was George Jacob Holyoake, the man who coined

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<v Speaker 3>the terms secularism and jingoism. Oh really he did both.

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<v Speaker 4>Love jingo Is and also I love his work with

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<v Speaker 4>mounts like Mount Holio.

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<v Speaker 3>Mount Holyo exactly. Maybe. He also co founded the National

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<v Speaker 3>Secular Society. He ran a rationalist socialist journal. He paled

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<v Speaker 3>around with the atheist liberal MP Charles Bradlaw, and he

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<v Speaker 3>later became a fixture of the cooperative movement, which I

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<v Speaker 3>talked about before. So young Horatio lived with him for

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<v Speaker 3>a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy had somebody, yeah, and somebody so interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But then he was packed off to this really

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<v Speaker 3>grim Birmingham orphanage. It didn't last long, no, but he

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<v Speaker 3>lived there for five years at the orphanage, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he ran away when he was fourteen to go live

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<v Speaker 3>with an aunt. Four years with the uncles Angela, Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And so then what follows is the string of just

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<v Speaker 3>dead end jobs. At one point he does an apprenticeship

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<v Speaker 3>in wood engraving. That was a bust. But then he

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<v Speaker 3>got this gig as an office boy at a City

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<v Speaker 3>of London's solicitors firm. Okay, and then there's something clicked.

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<v Speaker 3>He became genuinely fascinated by the law, and he read

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<v Speaker 3>up on it obsessively, and the knowledge would prove professionally

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<v Speaker 3>useful later. So he learned Pittman's shorthand and he moved

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<v Speaker 3>to a firm that transcribed court proceedings. Now, Pittman's shorthand

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<v Speaker 3>is a writing system that was invented by Sir Isaac Pittman.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh there it is, I know, in eighteen thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was designed to let people write as fast

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<v Speaker 3>as someone speaks, and so you don't spell words out

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<v Speaker 3>letter by letter. It's like sounds using simple strokes, curves, dots, dashes.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the keyboard that a court reporter uses.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It leads to those.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's basically phonetic rather than alphabetic. So knee and

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<v Speaker 3>ned start with the same symbol because they start with

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<v Speaker 3>the same sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah alphabet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Meanwhile, okay, So Bottomly he reconnected with Uncle George,

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<v Speaker 3>who introduced him to that atheist liberal MP, Charles bradlaw Right.

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<v Speaker 3>He liked Bottomly. Bradlaugh liked Bottomly enough to bring him

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<v Speaker 3>into his political orbit, and that connection got the liberals attention.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, who's this Bottomly kid.

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<v Speaker 2>And his ambitious orphans everything we love.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's great at transcribing. In age eighty seven, Bottomly

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<v Speaker 3>stood as their candidate in the Hornsey by election.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they really loved him on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>They were like warm for his form. Yeah, so Bottomly

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<v Speaker 3>he's short on cash.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not new to him in politics.

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<v Speaker 3>He had to be clever, so he convinced his opponent HC.

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<v Speaker 3>Stevens of Stephen's Ink I n K so like an

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<v Speaker 3>eight company you to lend him the money for his

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<v Speaker 3>own campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>He got his opponent to pay for his campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>Which he did. Yeah he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Did his opponent think, I mean easily beat you?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of like did Stevens won the seat

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<v Speaker 3>and then Bottomley never paid him back. He was like,

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<v Speaker 3>got you, suck. They both got what they wanted, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But now everyone knows who Bottomly is. He's got his

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<v Speaker 3>name out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 3>Around around this time, he also married a woman named Eliza,

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<v Speaker 3>which he'd go on to have a daughter with a

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<v Speaker 3>girl named Florence. Like business wise, things are moving fast

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<v Speaker 3>for Horatio. By the mid eighteen eighties, he was a

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<v Speaker 3>founding partner in this big publishing firm, and before the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the decade he'd landed a contract to publish Hansward,

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<v Speaker 3>which is Parliament's official record of debates. Oh okay and

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<v Speaker 3>so eighteen eighty eight. He then went on to co

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<v Speaker 3>found The Financial Times, where he briefly employed this sub

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<v Speaker 3>editor named Alfred Harmsworth. Hasworth was the future Lord Northcliffe

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<v Speaker 3>and the eventual press baron of the Daily Mail.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh thanks did yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Good on? So Bottomly's he that fund he overreached almost

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<v Speaker 3>immediately he had a falling out with a business partner

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<v Speaker 3>that cost him his magazines. In May of eighteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 3>he had like floated hanswerd publishing union in the stock

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<v Speaker 3>market and then it just the publishing unit just collapsed

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<v Speaker 3>under a bunch of debt over one hundred thousand pounds,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's nearly fifteen million dollars in today's money and

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<v Speaker 3>debt went quote missing. Oh and I like you first

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<v Speaker 3>had to do the UK inflation calculator, then the currency.

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<v Speaker 3>So Bottomley gets charged with conspiracy to defraud. Everyone assumes

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<v Speaker 3>that he's going to get convicted. He's going to get

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<v Speaker 3>this long sentence well, I mean and partly because he

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<v Speaker 3>defended himself. He didn't hire a solicitor, didn't hire a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a good move, no, not for something this big.

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<v Speaker 3>But he charmed the judge into his corner and then

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<v Speaker 3>he watched as the jury acquitted him in minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>The jury and the judge went for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, everyone loves them stars born baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he's a future politicians ever, I heard of one.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen ninety three old boy went bankrupt, doesn't and yet

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<v Speaker 3>he escaped it in classic fashion. So he paid off

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<v Speaker 3>creditors with these sketchy shares in Australian gold mines that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't like, I mean, if we're going to be full disclosure,

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't really exist yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so they were going to be mine futures.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so he founded the Joint Stock Trust and

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<v Speaker 3>Institute to float these gold mining ventures. They're like fifty

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<v Speaker 3>companies in all, and most of them were like basically

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<v Speaker 3>like someone went out and dug a hole in the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, that's my company, and the company is a

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<v Speaker 4>shell company in terms of like the PaperWorks the company.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And so the vast no, no, the vast majority

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<v Speaker 3>went into liquidation and then they were like quietly quote

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<v Speaker 3>reconstructed under new names. And then bottom would get all

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<v Speaker 3>these burned shareholders of the dead company to buy into

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<v Speaker 3>the shiny new one at a steep discount.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd burn him again. Oh yeah, I thought, you get

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<v Speaker 2>them together and just like sue the former company that need.

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<v Speaker 3>Taking well and sometimes though like by accident, really it

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<v Speaker 3>would it would work. So he had shares in the

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<v Speaker 3>Great Boulder Minds that he'd picked up at two shillings

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<v Speaker 3>eventually hit thirteen pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa, that's a big lift.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so the trust's stated purpose was to enrich shareholders,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously through these subsidiaries, but it's really enriching Bottomly. So

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<v Speaker 3>even the money meant to repay his original creditors mostly

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<v Speaker 3>arrived in the form of you know, you guessed it,

0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:47.360
<v Speaker 3>shares in yet another linked company. One defrauded investor, this guy,

0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.640
<v Speaker 3>mister Platt. He showed up at Bottomly's flat with a

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<v Speaker 3>gun and he threatened to shoot him unless his money

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<v Speaker 3>was returned. And Bottomly is like turns on the charm.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, let me show you how it's done. Just

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<v Speaker 3>like absolutely just bedazzles this guy. He pulls out Champagne.

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<v Speaker 3>By the end of the evening.

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<v Speaker 2>He gives them like the full con price.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he had not only kept Platt's original money,

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<v Speaker 3>but then he talked him into writing a fresh check

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<v Speaker 3>for four thousand pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Got more.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy's amazing. Another Mark, Robert Masters. This was a

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<v Speaker 3>wealthy retired Indian civil service official. He put ninety thousand

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<v Speaker 3>pounds into that worthless Bottomly paper, ninety thousand pounds. He

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<v Speaker 3>then fled London in shame and kept the lost secret.

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<v Speaker 3>And then years later, like his memory is failing, and

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<v Speaker 3>he gets one of Bottomly's mailers offering to make his

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<v Speaker 3>old victims whole, so he gives Bottomly another forty two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars. He died penniless and then he has daughter

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<v Speaker 3>sued Bottomly in nineteen eleven and she won. But then

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<v Speaker 3>Bottomly was like, that's fantastic, but I'm about to go

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<v Speaker 3>bankrupt again, so you're never gonna see a penny of that.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't pay that judgment horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he just loves bankruptcies.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry pockets.

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<v Speaker 3>When a judge ruled against him and then council branded

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<v Speaker 3>him the cleverest thief in the Empire, bottomly was like unmoved.

0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.840
<v Speaker 3>He stood up and demanded that the jury condemn his

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<v Speaker 3>accusers as the most disreputable blackmailers around.

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<v Speaker 2>How dare they?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Between eighteen ninety three and nineteen twenty two, he

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<v Speaker 3>appeared in court like one hundred and twenty different cases

0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:41.320
<v Speaker 3>bankruptcy's debt claims, you name it was. He tanked, absolutely not,

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<v Speaker 3>had no effect.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing like five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. So with a track record like that, it

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense that politics would be his next move. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>So he lost an election bid in nineteen hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>a newspaper called him a fraudulent company promoter and share

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<v Speaker 3>pusher during the campaign, so he sued the paper for libel.

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<v Speaker 3>Once again, he represented himself, and once again he was victorious.

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<v Speaker 3>He got awarded one thousand pounds in damages for being

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<v Speaker 3>described with what history would later confirm is absolutely perfect accuracy.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're descriptions, yes, exactly. So around nineteen around nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>oh two, he bought a struggling London evening newspaper, The Sun.

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<v Speaker 3>No I should know, it's not the same tabloid Sun

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<v Speaker 3>that exists today, but laying the groundwork for tabloids to come,

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<v Speaker 3>he gave it a gossip column that he wrote himself

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<v Speaker 3>under the title The World, the Flesh and the Devil. Wow, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and he just like positively dished on the great and

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<v Speaker 3>good of politics, law finance. It was not a big

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<v Speaker 3>hit and.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it accurate at all in terms of gossip level.

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<v Speaker 4>He's making stuff ups.

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<v Speaker 2>He's inventors.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you know this? So the sun is floundering.

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<v Speaker 3>He sells it in nineteen oh four, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>he's kind of running out of money. Nineteen oh six,

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<v Speaker 3>he finally wins a seat in parliament, so he's running.

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<v Speaker 4>He keeps running, so he's like whatever, like yeah, over

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<v Speaker 4>four and then finally he wins.

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<v Speaker 3>His fast exactly so he gets voted in as Liberal

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<v Speaker 3>MP for Hackney South.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I've actually heard of this, right, Okay, there we.

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<v Speaker 3>Are, and you know where we are. One of his

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<v Speaker 3>campaign tactics was hiring men in steel sold boots, not

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<v Speaker 3>steel toad, steel sold boots to stomp around outside of

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<v Speaker 3>his opponent's rallies so that no one could hear the speeches.

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<v Speaker 4>What are we talking? Steel sold like it's on the

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<v Speaker 4>bottom like tap dance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you just have like Gregory Hines out there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A glover that's a big Brobinson.

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<v Speaker 3>Once he gets into the alas of Commons. He was

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<v Speaker 3>such a compelling and magnetic speaker that other MP's made

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<v Speaker 3>a point of never missing him if he seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be his gift. Yeah, yeah, So he held that seat

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<v Speaker 3>until nineteen twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that the people would also like quote from him,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they want to hear what he's going to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and they pull some rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 3>Now no, I think they're just like, just enjoy this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just like a good showman exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So. The New York Times described him as quote an

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<v Speaker 3>effective orator and possesses personal magnetism, which has enabled him

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<v Speaker 3>to retain his seat in Parliament in spite of the

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<v Speaker 3>notoriety he has gained through his financial record. So like

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<v Speaker 3>he radiates this boozy warmth of like a saloon regular,

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<v Speaker 3>and so much so that one writer claimed that he

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<v Speaker 3>inspired the loud, incorrigible toad of toad haul in the

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<v Speaker 3>wind of the will. Oh wow, it's the only writer

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<v Speaker 3>to say that, And it's cute but incorrect. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I see where he's going with it. So we've got

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<v Speaker 3>this loud mouth, shady bankruptcy loving, litigious course, showman, businessman

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<v Speaker 3>slash politician. He's amusing to people. He's a character, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's only gonna get worse. It sounds va Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 3>stop here for some ads, and when we return, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>see what else this guy has up his sleeve. Zaren

0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Horatio bottom Le ratio. This guy not your man. He

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<v Speaker 3>launched John Bull, which was a jingoistic, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a family term, chauvinistic, crude penny weekly, pitched at working

0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:55.240
<v Speaker 3>men who liked beer sports that it is. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like an early lad mag and he wrote most of

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<v Speaker 3>it himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he think he was connected enough to He is

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<v Speaker 2>really jocular and I guess he does have the gift

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<v Speaker 2>of gab. So you didn't get that on paper.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he realized, like, this is what people want, So

0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:14.520
<v Speaker 3>he serves up this cocktail of salacious gossip, genuine investigative journalism,

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<v Speaker 3>really loud, opinionated commentary, and lurid exposees of sexual depravity

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<v Speaker 3>and degradation in name for John Bull.

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<v Speaker 2>So you get like this connection to Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so his old the World, the Flesh and the

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<v Speaker 3>Devil column got pride of place. He brings it back

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<v Speaker 3>at the front of every issue. But the gossip in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he had this credibility now because it's coming from

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<v Speaker 3>a sitting MP is writing this, so people are like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I will listen to what he's saying. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>old timey tweets. And so since everything was a hustle,

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<v Speaker 3>each copy had a unique serial number, and ten of

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<v Speaker 3>those numbers would win small prizes announced in the next issue.

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<v Speaker 3>That made sure readers just kept buying papers.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's also a raffle.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, everyone likes to think they're about to come into

0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.119
<v Speaker 3>some money, yes, and so it's like a rolling raffle.

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<v Speaker 2>I read it and I could win.

0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.760
<v Speaker 3>And I could win. And then there were the sweepstakes.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was a regular John Bull feature and in

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<v Speaker 3>all likelihood frequently rigged. So British law was, let's say, inconvenient.

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.960
<v Speaker 3>So he ran the sweepstakes out of Switzerland. The first

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<v Speaker 3>one offered fifteen thousand pounds on the nineteen thirteen Derby.

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<v Speaker 3>How much fifteen thousand pounds? Now, there's something significant about

0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.879
<v Speaker 3>that race. There was a tragedy. A suffragette died running

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<v Speaker 3>in front of the King's horse. Oh, a protest.

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<v Speaker 2>Move I've seen this reference.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so this threw the whole result into chaos.

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<v Speaker 3>Not really a good way to start the sweepstakes, but whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>he just keeps going. So rigged or not. These sweepstakes,

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<v Speaker 3>they hauled in around two hundred and seventy thousand pounds

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<v Speaker 3>for bottom Lank in one later draw. The announced twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five thousand pounds winner, which is like five million dollars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I imagined was a blind widow from Toulouse named Madame Glucad.

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<v Speaker 2>Does she exists, Well, she.

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<v Speaker 3>Was actually the sister of like one of Bottomly's little cronies,

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<v Speaker 3>and so there's this huge burst of publicity. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>she want all this money. She vanished and she it

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<v Speaker 3>was reported, well, no, she was fleeing this avalanche of

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<v Speaker 3>marriage proposals, so she had to go under tract he

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<v Speaker 3>it looks when they actually looked at the books, she

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<v Speaker 3>got paid two hundred and fifty pounds for her trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like fifty g's today, and then Bottomly kept the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Swiss is the one sanctioning this legally. Is

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<v Speaker 4>there anything the Swiss care about? Money clocks, chocolate and money.

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Clocks, chocolate, money and knives. There's a woman's spinoff magazine,

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<v Speaker 3>Missus Bull, that got launched in nineteen ten. Lady Bull. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it died quickly. It's it's better than it didn't take off.

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<v Speaker 3>So the bills eventually arrived, though, and in nineteen twelve

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 3>one of his mining stock victims sued successfully.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and bodily got a bunch of them in the course.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, but he couldn't pay. Plus he was at

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<v Speaker 3>this point two hundred and thirty three thousand pounds in debt.

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<v Speaker 3>So he goes bankrupt a second time, and he had

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<v Speaker 3>to surrender his parliamentary seat bankrupt. So his spending habits

0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 3>didn't help this whole thing. Because he owned a stable

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<v Speaker 3>of racehorses, even though he had no eye whatsoever for horseflesh,

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, to saying that. Okay, so most of them

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<v Speaker 3>were just duds, and he was known to bet and

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<v Speaker 3>lose the modern equivalent of like hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in a single day at the track. What yeah,

0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 3>he was just he went nuts. So he had gambling debts.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine being on horse, No cannot, I cannot. He actually,

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<v Speaker 3>of all his debts, the gambling debts were the only

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 3>ones that he felt he was honor bound to pay.

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Or scared about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're scared of the hard bed coming at him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So despite this lack of horse racing acumen, he kept

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<v Speaker 3>at it, and he looked for ways to put his

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<v Speaker 3>thumb on the scale in like the most successful way

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:25.400
<v Speaker 3>possible at the track. Zaren closed your eyes. I want

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 3>you to picture it. It's nineteen thirteen. You are in

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<v Speaker 3>the seaside resort town of Blankenberg's, Belgium. You're visiting, but

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<v Speaker 3>you're at work. Really, you're a lady in waiting to Sophie,

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<v Speaker 3>Duchess of Hohenburg, wife of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria.

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<v Speaker 3>The couple loved vacation here in Blankenberge, and you certainly

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<v Speaker 3>don't mind it either. After this trip, the next one

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<v Speaker 3>you'll take his next summer in Sarajevo. You here, it's

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful there, But for now you are in a special

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<v Speaker 3>wing of the Grand Hotel de ban and Del family.

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 3>The Archduke's sister, arch Duchess Elizabeth Amalie of Austria and

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<v Speaker 3>her husband, Prince Alois of Liechtenstein and his niece arch

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Duchess Marie Valerie of Austria are also there. The group

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<v Speaker 3>of them have gone this morning to attend daily services

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<v Speaker 3>at church. The Duchess told you to take the day

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<v Speaker 3>off and be back in the early afternoon. She wants

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:30.880
<v Speaker 3>you to get out and see the town, get some air.

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<v Speaker 3>You won't argue with that. As you stroll down these

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<v Speaker 3>charming streets, peeking in shop windows and enjoying this bit

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 3>of free time, you see a sign horse race. It's

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<v Speaker 3>about to start down the promenade any minute now. You

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<v Speaker 3>do so love going to the track. You make it

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<v Speaker 3>to the track just as the jockeys are preparing to

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<v Speaker 3>get to the gates. You can hear the waves crashing

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<v Speaker 3>on the shore. In the distance. There's a rotund man

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<v Speaker 3>in an ill fitting suit addressing all six of the jockeys.

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 3>He hands them each and en open barks out. Remember

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<v Speaker 3>your first, your second, You there are third, your fourth? Hey,

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 3>you listen to me, you're number five and you you're

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 3>dead last? Got it? Curious? The horse's nay? You know

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 3>a fixed race. When you see one, You're half tempted

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 3>to go put some money on the first horse, but

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<v Speaker 3>decide not to. That would be dirty money and it

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<v Speaker 3>would bring only darkness with it. Despite what you are

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 3>sure is the predetermined result of this race, you still

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 3>opt to watch. You make your way into the stands

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 3>and take a seat. Gruff men betting slips in hand,

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 3>push their ways up to the railing. The horses take

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 3>their spots at the gates. You look at the sky

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 3>and you notice it's getting a little dark. Not rain,

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 3>no fog. The fog is coming in. It's thick, and

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 3>it's fast approaching. A foghorn sounds down the coast. By

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 3>the time the starting pistol is shot, visibility.

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Is near zero.

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 3>You can no longer see the gates, but you do

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 3>hear the hammering of hoofs as they pass by. The

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 3>betters shout and complain around the track the horses go.

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 3>They need to complete three laps of this little track.

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 3>You still can't see much, but you hear the horses

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 3>and the impassioned cries of those with money riding on

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 3>the steeds they can't see. As you hear what will

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 3>be the third passing of the horses, you know that

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 3>the end of the race is quickly approaching. The finish

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 3>line is just down the track from where you're sitting.

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Whether you'll be able to see anything or not. Who knows?

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 3>This will make for a great dinner anecdote, though you

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 3>are sure of that. Just as the hoofs get louder

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 3>and thunder your way, the fog parts sun fights through,

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 3>you can see. And what you see is that the

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 3>horses are not in any way in the order prescribed

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 3>by that bellering man in the suit before the race,

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 3>not one bit. They obviously couldn't see one another to

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 3>figure out how to pace, they rode wine. You smirk

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 3>to yourself and smug satisfaction for opting not to place

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 3>a bed. The flags go up, and the men in

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.239
<v Speaker 3>the crowd shout and complain what kind of race was that?

0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 3>They yell, we couldn't see a thing. When you catch

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 3>sight of the man in the suit, another gentleman approaches him.

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Bottomly Bottomly, he yells, what the devil happened? Bottomley's faces

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 3>flush with anger. What happened? I'm out of fortune? Give

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 3>me my champagne, he yells. You check the delicate watch

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 3>you keep pinned inside your coat sleeve. You must get going.

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Time to get back to the hotel and prepare the

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 3>duchess for dinner later that evening. What a day. Yes,

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 3>this man tried to rig it and the fog was

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 3>so thick. Uh huh, couldn't tell me, couldn't tell anything.

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Nobody knows anything. So it's like he can't even like successfully.

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 3>That's like the most surefire way pay. All the jockeys

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 3>inside the order can't do it.

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Guess you're basically running a play then with horses.

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly. So Bottomly's betting was busted, but John Bull

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 3>kept booming. So between nineteen fourteen and nineteen eighteen it's

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 3>sold between one and two million copies per issue. It

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 3>was the most red magg in Britain, and the war

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 3>handed Bottomly his greatest role yet professional patriot of course. Yes,

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 3>so after the government declined his generous offer to serve

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 3>as director of recruiting, he like appointed himself an unofficial one.

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'm just going to go out and recruit boys. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 3>So he staged these enormous rallies that whip crowds into

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 3>like this froth of patriotic and anti German fervor. From

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 3>late nineteen fifteen to the war's end, he delivered three

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty lectures. He was averaging like two a

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 3>week for three years. Tickets, Yeah, tickets were expensive, and

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 3>after venue and travel costs, the rest of it went

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 3>like right to him, He's making a ton of money.

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>His performances were literally metered to the box office. So

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 3>if a Knight's take was under seventy five, audiences got

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 3>a subdued like invocation of King and Empire and then

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 3>the band would play the anthem or YMCA, I don't know.

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 3>If the take cleared seventy five pounds, he'd go like

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 3>full throated, like this crescendo about Britain standing shoulder to

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 3>shoulder as the land of hope and glory, and then

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 3>the band would like swell beneath him, and then the

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>audience singing the anthem would just drown him out.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Queen and Empire exactly.

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So in early nineteen fifteen, Lord Norcliffe, remember the

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 3>former sub editor Alfred Harmsworth, right Daily Mail baron and

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 3>now owner of half a Fleet Street. He offered bottomly

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 3>a column in the New Sunday Pictorial and bottom is

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 3>a yeah, sure, I'll take a column, and so then

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 3>he like submitted peace after piece that were just recycled

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 3>pieces of his speeches yeah, his greatest hits, and that

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>got him one hundred and fifty pounds in issues. So

0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 3>it was like twenty seven thousand dollars today being a

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 3>is he man is dollars? Yeah? Yeah per one.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Journals used to having money.

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but now its dead. Uh so uh, he's busy, right,

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 3>So he started farming out the actual writing to the

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 3>John bullstaff. Wow, he's not even doing his He would approve, Yeah,

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 3>he'd approve the copy and then put like a little

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 3>personal flourish at the end, you know, riff a little

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 3>to leave a little. He paid the ghost writers kept

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 3>the healthy margin, demonstrating once again that the public will

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 3>swallow anything with his name on it. If his name's

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 3>on it, they're in. And so his anti German rhetoric, though,

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 3>is like curdling into something genuinely disgusting.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's getting so prejudiced and bias, it's like beyond.

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 3>He told readers that if they found out that there

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 3>was a German waiter serving their soup, they had to

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 3>hurl the soup in his face, and that if like

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 3>a German clerk at the next desk was there, that

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 3>they should empty the ink pot over his head and

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 3>it's just yeah, like just basically harass him. He he

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 3>called for the extermination of ordinary Germans, so he's like

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 3>ramping it.

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. He argued that not the Kaiser, the German

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 2>German people.

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 3>He argued that Germans living in Britain should be badged

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 3>whenever they left home and then deported as soon as

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.959
<v Speaker 3>you know they could be It's like he's laying out

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 3>the Nazi blueprint. Yes, yeah, and the Germans. This actually

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 3>is kind of interesting. So in print he declared that

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 3>an unnatural beast could not be naturalized, it had to

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 3>be exterminated. So he's just dehumanizing.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Specifically Germans.

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>And within days of that article, anti German riots just

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 3>irrupt across Britain. So he's just lighting the fires. But

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 3>don't forget is the biggest publication in Britain.

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's also very macho, and you're getting an

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 4>audience that has already kind of like exactly, let's just

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 4>say full of themselves.

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, so like top hatted bankers they got together

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 3>at the stock exchange steps to say all right, no

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Germans should remain in the city. So it wasn't just

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 3>like the working people. He's got everybody top down. Smithfield

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 3>porters wore signs around their necks refusing to trade with Germans.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Patriotism is like excellent for business. I guess major firms

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>grew so nervous of bottomly that they bought ads in

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 3>John Bull to advertise their Britishness. He had businesses bending

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 3>the knee. So two brands, Lions and Bovril, they both

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 3>used his pages to insist that every one of their

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 3>directors was British, and then De la Ruepenn's they ran

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>an ad that kind of insinuated that their rival Waterman's

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 3>was selling through an Austrian firm, and that prompted Watermans

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.040
<v Speaker 3>to then go and buy a full page rebuttal.

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>We had nothing to do with the Austrian Hungarian Empire exactly.

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 3>So John Bull even ignited a film world scandal by

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 3>accusing the makers of this epic biopic the life Story

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 3>of David Lloyd George of German Sympathies and the Ideal

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Film Company was the production company. They sued and they

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 3>won in January nineteen nineteen, but the film never saw

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 3>daylight because parties acting for Lloyd George himself then Prime Minister,

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 3>and a Bottomly acquaintance. They bought up all the prints

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 3>for twenty thousand pounds. Wow. So nineteen seventeen, the War

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Office accepted Bottomley's proposal for like a morale boosting tour

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 3>of the Western Front. Yes, and it was judged enough

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 3>of a success with the troops that he was sent

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 3>to review the Grand Fleet.

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>See's like I had that hateful Bob Hope.

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or hateful Bob Hope is a good one. So

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 3>the Sunday pictorial they chipped in one thousand pounds toward expenses,

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 3>even though he was traveling on official bus business and

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 3>hosted by the Army the entire time, so he's double

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 3>dipping kind of like a golf trip. So the tour

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 3>did reveal one genuine hardship of trench life. There was

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 3>tragically a champagne shortage, so Bottomly he was like visibly listless.

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 3>His letters home were just like subdued. He didn't have

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 3>his like vigor.

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>So wait, this man is drinking that much.

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Champagne that he was running on champagne. He was offered

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 3>a drink in the officer's mess and he was like,

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't drink anything but the very driest champagne and

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 3>turned it down, and there just wasn't any of the

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:37.800
<v Speaker 3>very driest champagne.

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 4>I've never, by the way, considered somebody who could be

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 4>a champagne alcoholic. That's all they drink, and they get

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 4>mean if they don't have it.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 3>They get too much sullen if he doesn't have it.

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 3>But you know, he's braver than the troops really just

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 3>to be there without his champers. I need a quick

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 3>break from this guy. Okay, let's listen to some ads

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.040
<v Speaker 3>and when we get back rock Bottomly.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Near the end of World War One, the government issued

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 3>new war saving certificates, and Bottomly is like, what's that

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 3>smell opportunity? Smell in the air. So, through John Bull,

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 3>he invited the public to send him money. Your money

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 3>in your head, buy certificates on their behalf.

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:42.720
<v Speaker 2>If it's so loose in your pocket.

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, He's like, and you know what, I'll buy this

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.280
<v Speaker 3>the certificates for you, and then we're gonna have prizes

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 3>drawn for lucky winners. And there's always the sweepstakes. There's

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 3>always some crazy. So the scheme was like.

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 4>He offers a sweepstakes on top of the saving certificate.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 4>So that where they're like, oh, I definitely gonna play

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 4>the one rhyme, also be a winner.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, I'm going to pay for the war and and

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 3>so then he The thing is is that he aimed

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 3>for like fifty pounds to come in. He took in

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 3>nearly double that everyone's just like, take my money please.

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Winning numbers were published, but winners' names were not. So

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 3>there's that between this scheme and like his lecture profits.

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 3>He had collected enough money to discharge his bankruptcy and

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 3>become eligible for parliament again.

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Because he was back to the red yeah, yeah for

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the black.

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 3>And so in nineteen eighteen he was voted back in

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 3>for Hackney South this time is a right wing independent

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, yeah, And so I mean that's how he's

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 3>being politically.

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 2>No, it makes a lot of sense. But I mean

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 2>the voters just don't give like there's nothing right.

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean that's it.

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>You can get both sides of the because it's purely

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>personality exactly.

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>So he won a majority with nearly eighty percent of

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>the vote.

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Dang.

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He became a leading voice of the quote anti

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:05.399
<v Speaker 3>waste campaign. So this was a vaguely from now it

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 3>was a fight over the direction of conservative economics. So

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 3>at his peak he had this like loose caucus of

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 3>like ten to twelve independent MP's and they were trying

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 3>to build a party positions to the right of the Conservatives. Okay,

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 3>so the scheme that finally sank him.

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 4>What was their stance, like we should only pay poor

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 4>people in food they don't get money, not even that.

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like if you know, it's God judging you. I

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 3>don't know. That's usually how that goes. So what sank

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 3>him was Victory bonds Club.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Victory bond, yes, like.

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>The hair club. He launched it in nineteen nineteen. The

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 3>government was selling victory bonds at five pounds each.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 2>So you going to rebuild the nation and off wards

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they really needed bonds.

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>But instead of like we did it during the war,

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 2>the liberty bonds.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 3>We had, our liberty bonds went after.

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Total this is specifically victory.

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like we've won, we need to and we are

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 3>just so it's like for four hundred and fifty dollars

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 3>today is you know, five pounds then, and Bottomley and

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 3>John Bull wrote that like that's absolutely unaffordable for working people.

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Come on, do you have a solution, Horatio, Oh my god.

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Of course, he's like, I'm going to buy the bonds

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 3>in bulk, and then I'm gonna split them up, and

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to sell readers one pound stakes, and of

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 3>course I'm also going to have prizes.

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 2>It's like Bitcoin. With prizes you can.

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Get exactly exactly, So like subscribers, you're going to be

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 3>entered into this annual prize draw worth up to twenty

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 3>thousand pounds funded by the interest one point seven million

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 3>dollars today. So he promised full refunds on demand, of course,

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 3>and he swore he would take nothing for administration of.

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 2>The fund trust.

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:55.240
<v Speaker 3>The response was overwhelming, of course, so overwhelming that actually

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 3>administering it would have been a full time job, which

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 3>is presumably why he didn't even bother. So instead the

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 3>money he bought luxury cars, more thoroughbreds, He had mistresses

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 3>at like flats around London. He went all in. So

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 3>the paper trail, once investigators pulled it, was spectacular. Between

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 3>September nineteen nineteen May nineteen twenty, the club cut bottomly

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 3>eight checks for one thousand pounds or more, plus seven

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 3>more between one thousand pounds and twenty five thousand pounds

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 3>to his inner circle. Oh wow, his horse trainer got

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 3>one thousand pounds beaks. Yeah, there's this fixer, James Kerr,

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 3>he got ten grand. Thirty grand was wired to Paris

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 3>under the authority of Laura Rodgers, who the police figured

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 3>was his mistress and had had a child with him.

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Forty eight hundred pounds in cash went to an actress

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 3>named Peggy Primrose.

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Another mistress.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Eleven hundred pounds to an entourage member, Charles.

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Remember what do you do for he's an entrage Remember.

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 3>He's like the Champagne carrier. One hundred pounds to a bookie,

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 3>twenty pounds to an Italian restaurant. Quick note on Peggy Primrose,

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>please so. Lady Peggy Primrose was the daughter of Archibald

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Philip Primrose, fifth Earl of Rosebery, not the fish, can

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 3>you believe it? The liberal statesman who served as British

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister eighteen ninety four to eighteen ninety five. And

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 3>that's her dad. And then Hannah de ross Child, who

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 3>had been the richest woman in Britain.

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh snack.

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Lady Peggy was one of the first female Justices of

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 3>the Peace in London. She got appointed to magistrate in

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 3>nineteen nineteen after they passed the Sexist Qualification Act of

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:42.720
<v Speaker 3>nineteen nineteen.

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>She's think the first female judge is actually.

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Bottom Lee's Peggy Primrose was another Peggy.

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 2>You didn't borrow the name.

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I went down a long rabbit hole and then like

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 3>it made a U turn. Yeah. So she was a

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 3>chorus girl and an aspiring musical comedy actress, and she

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 3>was also a long time mistress of bottom Lenkait. I'm

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 3>like this just does not mean now, and the who's.

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>For him?

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And then all of a sudden like hold on,

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 3>hold on, and then's I'll see also Peggy. Okay, I gotcha.

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 3>It would have been way funnier if it was Lady Peggy.

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 3>But alas, all right, So back to the club payouts.

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Club money held in Bottomly's own name also bought sheares

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 3>in John Bull itself, steaks and race courses at Plumpton

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 3>and in Brussels an antique shop lease on Victoria Street,

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.919
<v Speaker 3>a factory that was supposed to be producing John Bull

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 3>fountain pens that doesn't none of it. Bought a decommissioned

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 3>German submarine, the Deutschland, and it like briefly toured around

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:01.760
<v Speaker 3>and then they scrapped it, and twenty five thousand pounds

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 3>was sent to the official receiver to settle creditors of

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 3>his previous bankruptcy. So he's using all these people's wore

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 3>money to pay his creditors. A solicitor named Edmund Bell

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 3>later put the club's total intake at one million, one

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy two nine and thirty nine pounds back then. Yeah,

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 3>about a third of that went to just Bottomley's personal use.

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 3>So that's that whole amount. Sixty eight million pounds a day,

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 3>which is ninety one point five million dollars, is how

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 3>much he pulled in on that on the club, just

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 3>the Bonds club. His undoing came from within though. So

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 3>this former associate, Ruben Bigland, he developed this like sudden

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:49.720
<v Speaker 3>and ferocious conscious really and yeah, and about the open

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 3>robbery of the poor. He's like, I just this isn't

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 3>sitting right.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I think Bottomly like screwed him or urged you across

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:56.280
<v Speaker 2>a line.

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you asked that question. That's a good question.

0:42:58.840 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Say thank you.

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth's actually that he had tried to get Bottomly to

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 3>back a scheme that he had for converting water into

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 3>gasoline via a chemical powder. Oh no, you know as

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 3>you do.

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 3>And so when Bottomley was like, I'm not backing that,

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 3>he's like, you know what, I don't like that you

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 3>robbed from the poor.

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 2>That's my job.

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:24.720
<v Speaker 3>So Biglin starts publishing attack pamphlets. And we've talked before

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 3>about attack pamphlets are the greatest best, and so the

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 3>most elegant one that he did was called what Horatio

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Bottomly has done for his country and the wounded Soldiers.

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.280
<v Speaker 2>You have illustrations that had.

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.919
<v Speaker 3>A title page and then twenty four blank pages. That's

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 3>what he's done for them.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 2>That's a cold disc right.

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Another pamphlet did have like detailed allegations, all of them true.

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Bottomley was like, I can't ignore this. This is not good.

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 3>So what am I going to do? I'm gonna sue

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 3>for criminal libel naturally, and he's like, he tried to

0:43:56.000 --> 0:44:00.399
<v Speaker 3>extort me through three intermediaries before the nineteen any one

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:04.479
<v Speaker 3>by election. On day two of the trial, Biglin took

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 3>the stand calmly narrates his entire history with Bottomly, and

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 3>that's like the nineteen eighteen incident where Bottomly rigged a

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 3>warstock combination draw so that Biglin could quote win one

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 3>thousand pounds.

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so he's like, you know, brandishing the pen against

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 4>himself too.

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:26.879
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I'm lying. Let me tell you what I did,

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 3>was I lying? Bottomly, was like, I'm not going to

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.760
<v Speaker 3>testify in my own case. And then they dismiss it outright,

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 3>But you know, because he drew that, he brought the charges.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 3>But then the cops turn around and arrested Bottomly, They're like,

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 3>we have all this testimony.

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Now what was his play there to bring the case

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 2>and dismiss it?

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 3>And he thought he always wins in court, and so

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 3>he thought, you know what, like, yeah, I'm going to

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 3>sue you for one hundred million dollars and you're gonna

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:54.439
<v Speaker 3>have to pay me out. And then they're like, no,

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 3>this is ridiculous, this is a frivolous lawsuit. You're out

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 3>of here. Then discovery, you know, you always have to

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 3>worry about discovery. So when charged, he like booms out

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 3>this plea most decidedly not guilty. And the trial then

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 3>kicks off May nineteenth, nineteen twenty two. The central question

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 3>was whether he had defrauded the patriotic ex soldiers who

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 3>bought into his club.

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and.

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.800
<v Speaker 3>So Bottomly He's like, no, those dear boys, the living

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 3>and the dead alike, they knew I never betrayed him.

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 3>So the prosecution was like, actually you did. Demonstrates that

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 3>of the millions invested, almost nothing went toward actually purchasing

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 3>the government bonds. Ye never bottom Most of it goes

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 3>to Bottomley.

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 2>So he screwed the soldiers, the government, and the people.

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 3>And the people. And then because he's once again representing himself,

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 3>they led him. He didn't have to sit in the dock.

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 3>He sat with the lawyers and he had like his

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 3>accountants next to him. So he's like running the show.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 3>He's got like that flare that he always has. He

0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 3>secured the judge's blessing for a daily fifteen minute adjournment

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 3>so that he could go take a medicinal pint of champagne.

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Of champagne. I didn't even know they sold champagne, and

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 2>by the pin.

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they did.

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 2>And he just has like a big flask, like a.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 3>Pint glass from the pub and they just fill it

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:16.280
<v Speaker 3>with champagne.

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, must it be like to be drunk on champagne?

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Every day of your life.

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, I think that's why you're

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>wearing wall dry champagne, because otherwise all that sugar will

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 3>give you. Oh yes, yeah, So the jury needed twenty

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 3>eight minutes to convict him. Twenty eight minutes. He was

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 3>found guilty on more than twenty fraud counts, sentenced to

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 3>seven years hard labor, expelled from Parliament. He sent the

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 3>House of Commons a farewell letter to be read out loud,

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 3>and in it he like swears before God after two

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 3>months of solitary confinement and all this like soul searching,

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.359
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I never made a penny from the clubs,

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 3>just outright line, I swear to God. You're like okay.

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 3>He thanked the house staff for like twelve years of courtesy,

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 3>and then he said he was just a victim of

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 3>an appalling miscarriage of justice.

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:09.720
<v Speaker 2>But he didn't go out attacking anyone.

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:13.320
<v Speaker 3>No, so prison did not agree with him. He seems

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 3>like the was sixty two when he got locked up,

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 3>totally out of shape, like an out of shape bigin.

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 3>The wardens couldn't find a uniform to fit him. Oh yeah,

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 3>His wife, Eliza, daughter Florence, they visited.

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 2>So he was carrying a lot of champagne.

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Wait, caring a lot of champagne. Wait. He could barely

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 3>eat at first, he couldn't sleep, and because he's an alcoholic,

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 3>he you know, was hit with the shock of like

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 3>enforced abstinence.

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh so they're not letting him like you know, like Timber.

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no. He got released in nineteen twenty seven

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 3>after five years, and then he immediately tried to recapture

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 3>the magic with a new magazine, John Blunt, No, sir,

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 3>not John Blaize, John Blunt, his few remaining friends, Jack

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 3>he should have plus Peggy Primrose. They they're like, this

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 3>is a really bad idea. Please don't do this. He's like,

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't care.

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing it.

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do it. So he rehired the old

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 3>John bullstaff. He rented out these expensive offices, launched June sixteenth,

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenty eight, complete with the Revived the World, The

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Flesh and the Devil.

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course you gotta have that.

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's not a magazine without that.

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 2>He's known for it.

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 3>So there was an initial circulation of five hundred thousands,

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, on the premise of he was like because

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 3>he he advertises it, I'm going to expose the hideous

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 3>torture in British prisons. Yes, now, But then the Home

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Secretary is like, oh you want to know the like

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 3>hideous torture that he faced. Check this out. Here's his

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 3>letter requesting Palmery nineteen oh six, Champagne and it was denied.

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 3>That's that's the horrors that he saw.

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 2>He wouldst ask.

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So then the advertisers like, oh, I don't really

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 3>want any part of this. Readers are like, this isn't

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 3>any fun. Final issue ran September nineteen twenty nine, So

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:10.319
<v Speaker 3>you know it was like maybe almost a little over

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 3>a year.

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the world is changing fast and twenty.

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Nine, yes, yes, so John Blunt collapses. This brings along

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 3>bankruptcy number four. He transferred he had this mansion called

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 3>the Dicker and he had transferred it to his son

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 3>in law before a previous bankruptcy okay to you know,

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:31.919
<v Speaker 3>get it off his books, and he was living there,

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 3>but then it was sold out from under him because

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 3>his daughter had since divorced, and the ex son in

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>law was like, I am not loyal to you and

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 3>the creditors are coming, so I want nothing to do

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 3>with this. I'm selling the joint. Oh so now he's homeless,

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 3>he has nowhere to live. He moves into Peggy Primroses

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 3>London flat and she tried to like work up this

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 3>lecture tour for him to go on, but most towns

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 3>had banned him. Yeah, his wife, Eliza, She died February

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty. He published a volume of prison poems called

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 3>Songs of the Cell and it had a preface by

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Lord Alfred Douglas, who was an English poet, journalist and

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Oscar Wilde's lover.

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:12.879
<v Speaker 4>Oh and so in what do you like to read

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 4>poems Songs.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the Cell. In one poem it was about a

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<v Speaker 3>young soldier who died in prison after being wounded in

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<v Speaker 3>the war. And it actually showed some self reflection because

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<v Speaker 3>he like pauses to wonder, kind of like half waking

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<v Speaker 3>in the night, whether he had done right or wrong

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<v Speaker 3>by sending that boy to France. And it's like pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much the only recorded instance of the question occurring to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that he also was meeting some soldiers

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<v Speaker 2>who'd returned from the war and they get locked up

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<v Speaker 2>and one of them actually did touch this.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he really did I think he really heard

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<v Speaker 3>their stories and it wasn't this boisterous like we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>bomb them all, get them out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's nobody to play to in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>At that they had like one on one humanity of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then him realizing that kid's there, probably because like

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<v Speaker 3>I got them all round. Yeah yeah, yeah. So he

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<v Speaker 3>has no income. He's reduced to telling stories from his

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<v Speaker 3>life on stage at Soho's wind Mill Theater, and he

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<v Speaker 3>only did it for a few nights and then he

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<v Speaker 3>collapsed with a heart attack. He recovered, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>collapsed again a couple months later. He died in Middlesex

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<v Speaker 3>hospital May twenty sixth, nineteen thirty three, aged seventy three.

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<v Speaker 2>So his final bankruptcy was his heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Yes. A month or so earlier he had applied

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<v Speaker 3>to the British government for an old age pension of

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<v Speaker 3>a few shillings a week and he was refused. Really,

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<v Speaker 3>and the irony of that is that the old age

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<v Speaker 3>pension law existed partly because of the works he had

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<v Speaker 3>done as an MP. He really pushed for it and

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, sorry, his obituary lamented the opportunities that

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<v Speaker 3>he'd had. How sadly it was wasted, and how he

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<v Speaker 3>might have been almost anything, but he had like this

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<v Speaker 3>single fatal flaw of like being a greedy pig.

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<v Speaker 2>There was that.

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<v Speaker 3>His will asked that his ashes be scattered on the

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<v Speaker 3>training gallops at Alfriston, near that near the Dicker in Sussex,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the urn sat unclaimed for four years. In

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty seven, his nephew Bertie Dolman and Peggy Primrose,

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<v Speaker 3>ever Loyle drove down finally granted him his last wish. So, Saron,

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<v Speaker 3>what's your ridiculous takeaway?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they say you die to deaths ye, right, your

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<v Speaker 4>physical death, and then the last time your name is spoken.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he's not dead yet. No, sadly he resurrected

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<v Speaker 3>him and I apologized for that, But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, like, you get guys like this and like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure there are a million whatever, some big number

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<v Speaker 4>of much better Brits of this era.

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<v Speaker 2>We could tell a story of maybe not for the show,

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<v Speaker 2>but just.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell a story of yeah, and they'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>an beautiful examination of the human condition.

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<v Speaker 2>And instead we.

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<v Speaker 4>Get guys like this because they are just so outside

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<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, so committed to the grift a lover of

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<v Speaker 4>the it's so deep in the game of like let me,

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<v Speaker 4>let me hold your money, and that we forever, even

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<v Speaker 4>us as human beings now later unaffected by this man,

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<v Speaker 4>still want to hear his story. That's how compelling his

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<v Speaker 4>story is, which is a crazy irony under all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>It really is, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, history repeating itself over and over. We've talked about that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so you have to learn it's definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>A rhyming tune with our stuff today.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it is. And with that, I I think

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of need to talk back, Dave, do you mine?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I led.

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<v Speaker 5>High Crime Squad. I love the gluzzy stats from the

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<v Speaker 5>Sophie Lions episode, and I thought I could tell you

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<v Speaker 5>about a senior prank done by some of my students

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty. Not a great year for students graduating

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<v Speaker 5>that year. So for their senior prank, they resorted to

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<v Speaker 5>sticking a bunch of hot dogs on skewers in the

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<v Speaker 5>ground in front of the school, as if a field

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<v Speaker 5>of hot dogs had popped up overnight, just just to

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<v Speaker 5>feel the glizzies in front of the school. That was

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<v Speaker 5>their senior prank, and I thought you would enjoy that

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<v Speaker 5>visual image.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing God when you think about Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Do whatever you want and buffet. I love a prank.

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<v Speaker 3>What if it's just like crows landing on it with

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<v Speaker 3>Kingford Coals getting busy. Yeah, you just take the steak

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<v Speaker 3>out ready to go. I love that. Thank you for that.

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