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Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man that time of week.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Friday. We are coming to you

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Speaker 2: no time. Brandon Staley was fired on ceremoniously last night.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot to the story. I want to bring

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Speaker 2: it am man. I consider to be the foremost authority,

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Speaker 2: the poet laureate on all things Chargers and the Spanos family,

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Speaker 2: going back to their inception, say hello to Steve Hartman. Steve,

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Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on tonight. There's no one else I'd rather.

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Speaker 3: Have, well Bernie on top of everything else. Of course,

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Speaker 3: I was actually at the game last night, which is

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Speaker 3: a very surreal. Was my first trip to Allegiance Stadium,

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Speaker 3: and of course before I was on the Charger flagship station,

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Speaker 3: I was the media relations director for the then La Raiders.

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Speaker 3: So coming out to Raiderland last night with my boys

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Speaker 3: decked out in their Charger gear. My sons are twenty

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Speaker 4: To sit through that.

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Speaker 3: Debacle last night was almost surreal. And I did tweet

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Speaker 3: during the first half that if this guy has not fired,

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Speaker 3: if they have one sliver of credibility, the Chargers have

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Speaker 3: to fire this guy after this performance. And indeed they did.

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Speaker 3: But I will give you the inside on exactly why

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Speaker 2: We're going to dive deep into this. We're talking with

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman. You hear him on weekends and all around

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Speaker 2: the network. He said, a spectacular three decade plus career

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Speaker 2: on the airwaves. Steve twenty five years ago, Kevin Gilbride

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Speaker 2: was fired mid season as well. That's the only other

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Speaker 2: time this Spanos family has done this. When you heard

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Speaker 2: the news last night, what was you knew jerk reaction?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I was there when Kevin Golbride

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Speaker 3: was fired, and Kevin Gobride basically slit his own throad.

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Speaker 3: He had taken over for the immensely popular Bobby Ross

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Speaker 3: and completely disrailed the program, and on top of that

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Speaker 3: was a complete jackass. So I mean, he made it

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Speaker 3: easy for them to.

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Speaker 2: Make that decision.

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Speaker 3: You know. So the situation here is very simple, and

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Speaker 3: let's let's just let's take a step back, because you

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Speaker 3: have people listening all over the country at Bernie and

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Speaker 3: if you are living in a city that has an

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Speaker 3: NFL team, the NFL rules every city. That is not

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Speaker 3: the case in LA. In fact, it's been a double

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Speaker 3: whammy for LA ever since they moved first the Rams

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Speaker 3: mean in this time. You know, the Rams obviously have

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Speaker 3: actually won a Super Bowl, but to say that the

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Speaker 3: sports market is a gross exaggeration. In fact, it's been

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Speaker 3: quite the opposite. LA is ruled by the Los Angeles

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Speaker 3: Dodgers in the Los Angeles Lakers and the Rams and

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Speaker 3: the Chargers, outside of a few diehard fans that support

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Speaker 3: In fact, there's been many surveys done about people that

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Speaker 3: and the Chargers aren't even in the top twenty teams.

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Speaker 3: Amongst those that fans are there fans of the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: They're almost zero fans in the LA market for the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: So this has been a problem that was predicted and

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Speaker 3: would be a catastrophe for the league. Now it's a

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Speaker 3: good deal for the Chargers because they play rent free,

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Speaker 3: do anything to gratiate themselves to the LA market. Stan Kroncky,

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Speaker 3: League office. So the league is desth spread to get

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Speaker 3: And if anything has gone, I'm reversed anyone that's gone

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Speaker 3: how bad it's been. So this latest debacle that we

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Speaker 3: the owner's son, Dean Spanish. I like John, John's a

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Speaker 3: us to the point, Bernie, of how this actually came

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Speaker 3: The difference now is is that the league has made

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Speaker 3: it clear to Dean Spanos, who I'll put it this

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Speaker 3: So he thought, well, I'm going to buy a football

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Speaker 3: But understand this, Dean does not make any decisions on

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Speaker 2: This was a.

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Speaker 3: Mandate from the league that said, Dean, it's over week.

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Speaker 3: You can't do this anymore. We can't carry you anymore. Dean,

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Speaker 3: we can't do this in the LA market. You were blessed,

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Speaker 3: you lucked out into getting a great young talent, a

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Speaker 3: what he's doing. You have no clue what he's doing,

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Speaker 3: guarantee you that the abruptness of this firing had less

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Speaker 3: that game last night, as opposed to the pressure that

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Speaker 3: the league is putting on Dean Spanos to get his

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Speaker 2: That's a fascinating talking point. I guarantee what you have

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Speaker 2: just characterized their Steve's not being heard on any other

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Speaker 2: radio station anywhere. Tremendous insight, Steve. This is too good.

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Speaker 2: When you hang with us for one more segment, people

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Speaker 2: names are emerging, and I am telling you they are

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Speaker 2: all over the map. Some are real head scratchers. I

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Speaker 2: will tell you this as you know. I'm connected in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harball has a crush man crush on Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: I'm not making any predictions. By the way, I love

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Speaker 2: your Kevin Gilbride. My image of Kevin Gilbride, which is

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Speaker 2: fascinating stuff. This is a guy, I will tell you unequivocally,

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Speaker 2: And we're talking about going back to eighty four when

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Speaker 2: Let's pick it up with Steve Hartman. You hear him

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Speaker 2: every Saturday and Sunday on this network, one of the

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Speaker 2: the poet laureate All Things Chargers. Steve, Let's dive forward

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Speaker 2: glad to have you tonight, because you, I think have

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Speaker 2: an intuitive feel, not what the offshore odds are, not

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Speaker 2: what the pundits say, but what you think the Spanos

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Speaker 2: family might do. Bill Belichick's name is emerging. You got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, first of all, understand this part of the

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Speaker 3: reason that let's say Belichick's in play for one reason,

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick is going to accept any position in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League unless he has full control of the organization,

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Speaker 3: And we've just had a season. How is missig in

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Spanos family is paying anybody eleven

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Speaker 3: You, well, they are going to pay eleven million dollars

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Speaker 3: So they have over six hundred million dollars they owe

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Speaker 3: It's time to pay Steve. You move from San Diego

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Speaker 3: Look I'm telling you, Bernie, the League is going to

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you top credit for what I

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Speaker 2: reporting that the decision, the decision to relieve Brandon Staley

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Speaker 2: Dean Spanis, etcetera. All right, forgive me, I gotta go

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Speaker 2: Pray tell again, I'm holding my nose before I see

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Speaker 3: He is the idea of Lincoln Riley being an NFL

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Speaker 2: So depending on who may or may not make the

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Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts. He's got familiarity with

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Speaker 2: Hire and quotes. I'm talking about Eric b Enemy. Is

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Speaker 3: Why would Eric the Enemy be on the short list?

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm tim you know, I always found it interesting.

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Speaker 3: This is this is again, this is not about the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: What I'm doing is running the gamut of the big names,

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Speaker 3: I don't, like I said, there is one name, and

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Speaker 3: It has to be Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jim Harbor.

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Speaker 3: The league shoved it down Stan Cronkey's throat. It's been

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, final question, and I appreciate you joining

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Speaker 3: Well again, and the idea that it wasn't just stay

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Speaker 3: So the fact that Harball will come with huge demands

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Speaker 1: Give it to him.

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Speaker 2: Steve, great, great stuff. Thanks so much. Tell the folk

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Speaker 2: where they can find.

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Speaker 3: You this weekend, all right, Ernie, thanks, all right.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Steve. You can hear Steve Saturday afternoon, I believe,

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Speaker 2: three Pacific to five and then Sunday morning ten am

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Speaker 2: to two pm Pacific on football Saturday and Sunday. The

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Speaker 2: man knows his stuff. This is an interesting debate. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to continue it coming up, and first let's go

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Speaker 2: to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest heay.

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Speaker 6: On Friday night, Jalen Brunton scored fifty points and even

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Speaker 6: found time to dish out nine assists for the Knicks.

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Speaker 6: They picked up a one thirty nine to one twenty

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Speaker 6: two victory over the Suns in Phoenix. Bradley Beal for

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Speaker 6: Phoenix left the game in the first quarter with an

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Speaker 6: ankle injury and did not return. Dalton Vessel scored thirty

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Speaker 6: six points, leading the Spurs to a one to twenty

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Speaker 6: nine to one fifteen win over the Lakers, snapping an

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Speaker 6: eighteen game losing streak. LA was without three starters, including

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Speaker 6: Anthony Davis. The seventy six ers handed the Pistons their

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Speaker 6: twenty second consecutive loss. Five straight wins for the Rockets,

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Speaker 6: they defeated Memphis one oh three to ninety six. We

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Speaker 6: had wins for Boston, Washington, and Atlanta. In NFL news,

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Speaker 6: Texans quarterback c J. Stroud doubtful for their game against

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Speaker 6: the Titans with a concussion. Davis Mills expected to get

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Speaker 6: the start there. Chiefs running back Isaiah Pacheco will miss

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Speaker 6: his second consecutive game after undergoing shoulder surgery. Buffalo will

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Speaker 6: be without safety Micah Hyde against Dallas after he suffered

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Speaker 6: a stinger last week. In college basketball, Friday Night, fifth

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Speaker 6: ranked Yukon defeated number ten Gonzaga in Seattle, seventy six

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Speaker 6: to sixty three.

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Speaker 1: Back to Bernie Fratto.

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Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, we're gonna have some fun tonight coming

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Speaker 2: up top of the hour. We're gonna dive heavily into

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Speaker 2: the Draymond Green situation. Look, I respect Steve Harbin tremendously,

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Speaker 2: and one of the things that I appreciate about him

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Speaker 2: is he does not equivocate. When you ask him a question,

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Speaker 2: he answers directly, and he backs it up. He is

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Speaker 2: correct in the fact that Harball might be the best

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Speaker 2: fit because he literally checks every single box when I

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Speaker 2: look at it from the other end. Given my two

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Speaker 2: decades in Michigan and the content I still have that

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Speaker 2: I still talk to all the time, there are two

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Speaker 2: main factors as to whether or not Jim Harball would

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Speaker 2: become the head coach of the Chargers. One, He's gonna

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Speaker 2: want total control, and I mean total control. Secondly, Michigan

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Speaker 2: is offering Harball a contract of eleven million over five years,

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Speaker 2: fifty five million. He's got total control. And I know

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Speaker 2: he lives next door to his dad. Make no mistake,

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Speaker 2: he never got over losing the Super Bowl to his brother.

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Speaker 2: He turned sixty next year. The time is probably right.

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Speaker 2: He's got a low buyout, But I understand. I got

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Speaker 2: a text in the midst of my conversation with Steve

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Speaker 2: Hartman that Jim Harbaugh is likely to command or request

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Speaker 2: or demand any way you want to slice it, an

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Speaker 2: annual salary in excess of fifteen million, and I wish

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Speaker 2: I would have asked Steve this now. The bottom line

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Speaker 2: is Steve invoked on aspect of this story. I frankly

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Speaker 2: did not know that the league has imposed its well,

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Speaker 2: and he's right, it's about time. You got the number

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Speaker 2: two media market in the country. And I know the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: but the Rams are too. They're a distant third or

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Speaker 2: fourth behind the Lakers and the Dodgers and USC. You

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Speaker 2: have to know I lived that market for many years.

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Speaker 2: Would the Chargers pay someone fifteen million dollars a year?

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Speaker 2: I understand, and I wish I had more time with Steve.

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Speaker 2: I've been told by sources I have that are not

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Speaker 2: as good as Steve's that the Chargers are one of

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Speaker 2: the most cash strapped teams in the league. Would they

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Speaker 2: pay Jim Harbaugh fifteen million a year? Brand and Staley?

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Speaker 2: And again I get it, it's Brandon Staley. He was

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Speaker 2: making four million a year. So this is a dicey situation.

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Speaker 2: I think it's likely that Harball ends up back in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. I'm not going to go down that road.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of Harball fans who just automatically think

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Speaker 2: he's going to stay there just because and because they

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Speaker 2: want him to. I give it seventy thirty that Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: leaves for the NFL, but it's got to be right.

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Speaker 2: I doubt he goes to the Bears. I realize that

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Speaker 2: the McCaskey family love him like a son. Right At

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Speaker 2: the same time, you have to understand that Kevin Warren,

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Speaker 2: the former commissioner of the Big Ten, is now the

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Speaker 2: president of the Chicago Bears. You have to understand that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you could have Kevin Warren and

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh in the same room. They get along worse

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Speaker 2: than Joan Rivers and Johnny Carson. Google it, kids, it's

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Speaker 2: not good. I think that would be a major speed bump.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, there's no guarantee that they relieve

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Speaker 2: Matt Eberflus of his duties. We know that the Chargers

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Speaker 2: job is open. There are going to be multiple other

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Speaker 2: jobs as well. The Commanders Carolina. Harbaugh does I get

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Speaker 2: his control in his fifteen million year You know, you

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Speaker 2: tell me whether the Chargers are going to do that. Now.

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Speaker 2: I immensely respect Steve Hartman's honesty and knowledge and experience.

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Speaker 2: But I want to revisit Eric Benemy because I absolutely

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Speaker 2: interviewed Eric b Enemy and yet I understand that his

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Speaker 2: tenure with the Chargers wasn't long. And I understand, yes,

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Speaker 2: he's from San Diego, and maybe that in two dollars

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Speaker 2: to get you a cup of coffee. But let's take

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Speaker 2: a minute to recognize what Eric Benemy did in his

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Speaker 2: many years in the AFC West. Right, he was the

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for the Chiefs. Now he's calling plays with

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Speaker 2: the Commanders, and come on, that's an offense that couldn't

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Speaker 2: score in a women's prison with a fist full of fifties.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna do with that offense.

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Speaker 2: But the Chiefs scored the most points per game in

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Speaker 2: the NFL thirty point one when the Enemy was the

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, along with the most yards per game. They

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Speaker 2: averaged four hundred and six yards a game. Kansas City

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Speaker 2: also had the best record the NFL during the Enemy's run.

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Speaker 2: They went sixty four eighteen five conference champion game appearances

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Speaker 2: to Super Bowl titles in five years he was the

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. Patrick Mahomes also had the most passing yards

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Speaker 2: passing touchdown, higher passing rating in that span, all with

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Speaker 2: b Enemy. He's the offensive coordinator. Now, the development of

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Speaker 2: Mahomes and Sam Hall, which you can see improvement, should

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Speaker 2: be enough to entice the Chargers to hire the Enemy

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Speaker 2: and see if he can take Justin Herbert to the

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Speaker 2: next level. Justin Herbert is the face of the franchise.

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Speaker 2: They've got to build around him. It's time. It's time

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Speaker 2: to see what he can do. And I think he

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Speaker 2: would fit their budget. I do think it checks several boxes.

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Speaker 2: And would he have success with the Chargers. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And I know what you're thinking. Okay, great, well he

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Speaker 2: had Tyreek Hill, YadA, YadA, yad. Okay, you have to

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Speaker 2: have a base level of talent to score points and

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Speaker 2: win games in the NFL. That's just the way it goes.

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's eighty three to one hundred without Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: When he had Tom Brady and he had a six

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famers on defense, they went to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: damn near every other year. Bill Belichick's resume is undeniable,

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Speaker 2: his legacy is undeniable, just as Bill Parcells. Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: never won a Super Bowl. Check that Bill Parcells never

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Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl without Bill Belichick by his side.

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Speaker 2: So he's been to twelve one to nine two with

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Speaker 2: the New York Giants, seven with the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: They don't have the horses right now. Pete Rose said,

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Speaker 2: a best coaching football's like driving a stage coach. Without

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Speaker 2: the horses, yan't going forward. I don't think Bill Belichick's

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Speaker 2: a fit in Los Angeles, even if they part ways,

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Speaker 2: which I believe they will. Maybe he had some stability.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of effect he would have

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Speaker 2: over justin Herbert. He said, look, his time is coming gone.

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Speaker 2: He's seventy one. That doesn't mean he doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: jobs and we're in the NFL. I just don't think

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Speaker 2: the Chargers are the right fit. Bill Belichick has never

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Speaker 2: coached west of Cleveland since nineteen seventy nine. That maybe

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Speaker 2: plays a factor. You look at some of the other candidates. Okay,

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Speaker 2: come on, I realized Ben Johnson is doing a hell

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Speaker 2: of a job as the UC for the Lions. I

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Speaker 2: agree with Hartman. You can't go back to a guy

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Speaker 2: learning on the job, whether it's Bobby Slovak, the offensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator for the Texans, Mike McDonald, the defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. Forget Lincoln Riley, Forget Matt Campbell. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know you're seeing names like Frank Smith from Miami,

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, forget it. Forget it now. I know I

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Speaker 2: just mentioned Eric p Enemy, but that's the exception I'm

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Speaker 2: going to make. And I realize that Bill Belichick is

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Speaker 2: the offshore favorite to get the job. That means nothing, nothing,

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Speaker 2: and I think they've got harbaught nine to one. So

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Speaker 2: the Chargers have an interesting decision to make because, as

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Speaker 2: Hartman pointed out, Tom Telesco's last three hires, you put

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Speaker 2: their heads together and they can make a rock pile

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason. And this is an organization under the

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Speaker 2: Spanos family that fired Marty Schottenheimer after going fourteen to two.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what they do. I really don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if God knows what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: They'll probably come completely out of left field and hire

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Speaker 2: a name we haven't even talked about. But the most

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Speaker 2: fascinating part of this interview, and if you missed any

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Speaker 2: of it, Shay will have the podcast up after I

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Speaker 2: sign off on the show tonight within an hour or so,

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Speaker 2: and you're going to want to hear the first half

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Speaker 2: hour because one of the most interesting talking points that

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Speaker 2: Steve invoked was the fact that this decision, after this

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Speaker 2: embarrassing debacle Thursday night, and here in Las Vegas, which

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Speaker 2: didn't even look like an NFL game, I am looking

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Speaker 2: at a team that quit, that didn't care if they

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Speaker 2: were there. Somebody asked me on Twitter, how could the

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Speaker 2: Raiders get shut out last week and score sixty three

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Speaker 2: points this week? Simple? They played an NFL team last

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Speaker 2: night with a check that last week against Minnesota, with

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Speaker 2: a tough, aggressive defense that plays downhill, coached by Brian Flores.

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Speaker 2: They're fighting for their collective playoff lives. They were playing

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Speaker 2: were the Chargers? Could I say the same about them? No,

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Speaker 2: not at all, not even close. They were very disinterested

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Speaker 2: want to get in. I appreciate all the callers. Last week.

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Speaker 2: We had some great discussions on whether or not the

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have some final thoughts on the Brandon's

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Speaker 2: Daily Chargers situation and what may happen next. I'm Bernie

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Speaker 2: We're gonna dive heavily into the Draymond Green situation. He's

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Speaker 2: once again at the center of controversy. You saw it

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Speaker 2: happen Tuesday night. We just did this a month ago.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna give you a suspension timeline, talk about what

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Speaker 2: happened the other night, why do the Warriors continue to

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Speaker 2: enable this, and what's the future for Draymond Green. We'll

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Speaker 2: also bring the crew. We also welcome your calls. Eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven, nine,

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Speaker 2: ninety six, six three sixty nine. I do seven hours

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Speaker 2: of radio on weekends solo. I did what one hour

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Speaker 2: to calls. We have smart, intelligent callers. We did the

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Speaker 2: contest for twenty four weeks that came out in the woodwork.

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Speaker 2: So Mi guy Shay, we've talked about this. We're going

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Speaker 2: to develop something after the first year. But tonight eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 2: nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine at midnight if

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Speaker 2: you want to win on the Draymond Green situation again.

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Speaker 2: Final thoughts on Brandon Staley. He was already on the

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Speaker 2: hot seat as the Chargers head coach, and obviously this

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Speaker 2: season they took a major disappointing step backwards. They actually

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Speaker 2: were in the playoffs, had a twenty seven point lead

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Speaker 2: against the Jaguars, coughed it up. This year, they're five

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Speaker 2: and eight entering the game last night. Injuries they happened

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. The only year Aaron Rodgers won the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, they had fourteen guys on ir. Okay, the

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Speaker 2: seventeen oh one to o Miami Dolphins in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 2: two won the Super Bowl with a backup quarterback. Look,

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Speaker 2: you know, losers say you know winners say, tell jokes. Losers,

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Speaker 2: they shut up and deal. You play the handiard delt

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. If you aren't able to play the

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Speaker 2: handiard delt, you end up like Brandon Stale. You get

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Speaker 2: obliterated by the Raiders. Thursday Night Football, sixty three to

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Speaker 2: twenty one. And by the way, the final score, somehow

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Speaker 2: it actually makes the game look a little closer than

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Speaker 2: it actually was, that makes any sense. The Chargers didn't

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Speaker 2: even get on the scoreboard till the third quarter. That's

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Speaker 2: when they had already spotted the Raiders without Josh Jacobs

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Speaker 2: and under the weather, DeVante Adams, they already spotted him

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Speaker 2: a forty nine to nothing league. Then it got to

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Speaker 2: sixty three to seven, and I think the referees told

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Speaker 2: the Raiders count one thousand and one, one thousand and

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Speaker 2: two before you rush the quarterback. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: the hell happened. This was an embarrassment to the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. It's a proud shield. Just to get to

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Speaker 2: the league, you have to be very special NFL. The

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Speaker 2: only way an NFL team gives up sixty three points

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Speaker 2: is if they don't want to be there. Forty two

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Speaker 2: to nothing at halftime, By the way, at that point,

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Speaker 2: the Chargers only run twenty five offensive plays on seven series,

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Speaker 2: excluding a meaningless run up the middle to run out

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Speaker 2: the clock the final play of the first half. They ran,

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Speaker 2: you know, they were averaging like three points six plays

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Speaker 2: for drive. They had four points, three fumbles, one on

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Speaker 2: special teams, and a turnover on downs. That is about

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Speaker 2: as much of it, if you know, an ass kicking

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Speaker 2: as you will ever see in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Raiders just the third team in

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Speaker 2: NFL history to shut out their opponent in the first

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Speaker 2: half while also scoring forty two points. And again, the

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Speaker 2: Raiders were shout out last week. So what happens next

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Speaker 2: to Brandon Staley? Believe it or not, I'm hearing Sean

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Speaker 2: McVay is a good guy. He's a very good coach too,

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Speaker 2: And there's always these rumors you might go to TV.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he's ready to do that anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at Sean mcvay's relatively short tenure

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League, he's not only won a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, he's produced a stable of quality head coaches.

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Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur, Green Bay, Zach Taylor, Cincinnati Kevin O'Connell Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Those guys have all had success with their new teams. However,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Staley, who's also part of the Sean McVay coaching treat,

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Speaker 2: never quite found the same success. The record books will

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Speaker 2: show that Brandon Staley was twenty four and twenty four

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Speaker 2: as a Chargers head coach, just five and nine this season,

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Speaker 2: But who knows. Given the strong relationship between Sean McVay

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Speaker 2: and Brandon Staley. Frankly, it might not be that surprising

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Speaker 2: to see Brandon Staley end up back with the Rams.

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Speaker 2: If you give him credit. The Rams had the best

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Speaker 2: top total scoring defense the only year that show that

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Speaker 2: Brandon Staley was managing the defense with in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: and he wouldn't have to move. Coming up, we dive

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Speaker 2: into the Draymon Green situation. Keep it locked right here.

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Speaker 2: sixty six three sixty nine, Dramon Green is once again

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Speaker 2: back at the center of controversy. In the third quarter

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Speaker 2: of the Warriors game against Phoenix on Tuesday night, Green

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Speaker 2: found him self back in the locker room after getting

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Speaker 2: ejected for hitting use Off Nurkic in the head. By

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Speaker 2: now you've seen the video a thousand times. He looks

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Speaker 2: like a whirling dervish. He looks like a damn fool.

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Speaker 2: That's what he is, a damn fool. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to hear any different now. The two it started out,

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00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 2: both were sort of battling for a position. When Green

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00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: in green back was back, his back was to Nurkic.

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Speaker 2: He turned around and swung his hand at Nurkic. He

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Speaker 2: connected with the side of his head kind of face

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Speaker 2: near the ear sensitive spot. Nurkic goes down. Now it's

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Speaker 2: very likely that Draymond Green could be off for a

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Speaker 2: bit of time. We already know he's been given in

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Speaker 2: a suspension. This time, it's indefinite. This time, there's all

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Speaker 2: kinds of rhetoric floating around. But what's interesting, We just

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Speaker 2: talked about this last month on fourteenth, almost a month

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Speaker 2: to the day when he tried to put Rudy Gobert

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Speaker 2: in a headlock. Now again, we don't know the length

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Speaker 2: of Braymond Green's suspension. If you think Draymond Green should

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Speaker 2: be suspended for the rest of the year, fine, you

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Speaker 2: think the four yeers should get rid of him, Fine,

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Speaker 2: you want to defend Draymond Green, Fine, Steve Kerr, let's

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Speaker 2: hear from you. I eight seven seven nine nine six

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Speaker 2: six three six nine. But here's the kicker. If Draymond

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Speaker 2: Green's suspension is fewer than twenty games, he'll be docked

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty three thousand, ninety one per game.

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Speaker 2: If it's more than twenty games, he'll be docked two

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Speaker 2: hundred and two thoy nine to twenty two per game. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: So the longer it goes. But if you haven't seen

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Speaker 2: by now, the body of work for this knucklehead, there

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00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: have been seven of these, going back to June of

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, when he had the all altercation with Lebron

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Speaker 2: during the NBA Finals. And if you don't think that

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00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: that cost them the championship, you're wrong. They were up

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Speaker 2: three games to one. They missed that. He missed pivotal

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Speaker 2: Game five, Draymond did that led to Cleveland winning the championship.

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Speaker 2: You've heard the drop of.

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Speaker 1: That, Cleveland, this is for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, they did it, They did it. This I believe

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Speaker 2: was the most famous of Green's instances. And it was

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Speaker 2: his first Game five of the NBA Finals, and I

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Speaker 2: believe it fueled the Cleveland Calfs to a championship down

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Speaker 2: game four. Actually, Lebron James and and and Draymond got

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Speaker 2: tangled up at bulk you know, at half court, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: And as Lebron James tried to step over Draymond, Green

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Speaker 2: extended his arm and made contact with another region. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and the original call on the floor was a double file.

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Speaker 2: But then the NBA reviewed the play after the game.

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Speaker 2: He decided Green's actions warranted a flagrant won. And because Draymond,

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Speaker 2: being this smart guy he is, always wants to take

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Speaker 2: how smart he is, he already had three flagrant files

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Speaker 2: during the twenty sixteen NBA Playoffs. His fourth resulted in

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00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: an automatic suspension for Game five, and you know how

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Speaker 2: the rest of the story goes. Lebron James led the

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Speaker 2: Cavs down three games to one to win the championship.

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Speaker 2: They knocked off Golden State on their home court in

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Speaker 2: a historic Game seven. Kyrie Irving hit in the final shot.

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Speaker 2: But most sane people I know that I've talked to

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Speaker 2: strongly believe had that suspension not taken place, Golden State

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Speaker 2: would have won, proving this was no fluke. Two years later,

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Speaker 2: he got suspended again. This time it was for an

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Speaker 2: altercation with his teammate Kevin Durant. He was quote suspended

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Speaker 2: for one game one game without pay, were conduct detrimental

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Speaker 2: to the team following an altercation with Kevin Durant, his teammate.

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Speaker 2: It happened in the final seconds of a regular season

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Speaker 2: game against the Clippers. Draymond grabbed a rebound, and although

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Speaker 2: Durant was calling for the ball, Draymond elected to go

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Speaker 2: coast to coast, drives them to traffic, turns the ball over.

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Speaker 2: The Warriors didn't get a shot off and eventually lost

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Speaker 2: in overtime, but not before Green and Durant had a

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Speaker 2: heated exchange on the sidelines between periods. Now. The argument

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00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: also carried into the locker room after the game, and

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Speaker 2: it's been acknowledged by both Draymond and Kevin Durant as

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Speaker 2: a turning point in Durant's eventual departure from Golden State.

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Speaker 2: Score another loss for Draymond Green. Let's fast forward to

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Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty three season. This is where it

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Speaker 2: gets interesting because what happened Tuesday night now adds up

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Speaker 2: to Bond's fourth suspension in the calendar year twenty twenty three. Now,

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Speaker 2: this one actually started in twenty twenty two. This is

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Speaker 2: when he got fined for punching Jordan Poole. It actually

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Speaker 2: resulted in the fine now suspension, but it's become an

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Speaker 2: infamous moment for Draymond Green. The footage showed. There was

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Speaker 2: practice footage that leaked that showed Draymond Green punching Jordan

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Speaker 2: Poole in the face. It was pretty ugly. He was

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Speaker 2: a team issued suspension. Supposedly they thought it would be coming,

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Speaker 2: but Golden State elected to fine Green and step away

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Speaker 2: from the team for a few days. So characterizing anything

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Speaker 2: you want. He ended up playing in the Warriors final

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Speaker 2: preseason game and was available to suit up for the

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Speaker 2: first game of the twenty twenty two to twenty three season,

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Speaker 2: the bottom line being he missed time due to untoward behavior. Again.

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Speaker 2: Last season, the twenty three season, he was forced to

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Speaker 2: serve at one game suspension for collecting his sixteenth technical

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Speaker 2: file of the year. Remember, under NBA rules, any player

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Speaker 2: or coach, they're automatically suspended without pay for one game

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Speaker 2: once you received your sixteenth technical file during the regular season.

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Speaker 2: For every two additional technical files received during the regular season,

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Speaker 2: any player or coach would be suspended for additional games

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Speaker 2: without pay. So Draymond picked up his sixteenth technical file

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Speaker 2: and the Warriors loss to the Clippers mid March this

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Speaker 2: last year. Mid March, so countary year twenty twenty three. Right,

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Speaker 2: he served a one game suspension on March seventeenth. Let's

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Speaker 2: flash forward again to twenty twenty three. Now it technically

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Speaker 2: it's a twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four season. However,

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Speaker 2: it's the calendar year twenty twenty three. This just happened

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Speaker 2: a month ago. His latest antics earned him a five

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Speaker 2: game suspension because on November fourteenth, what Draymond Green did

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Speaker 2: was insert himself into an altercation between Clay Thompson and

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Speaker 2: Jade McDaniels as the Warriors played the Timberwolves. It was

854
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: during one of the tournament games and Green charged at

855
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert put him in a headlock amidst the scrap.

856
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 2: Green was ejected for his actions, as were Klay Thompson

857
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: and and Jade McDaniels. I get all that, but once again,

858
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: Draymond Green right in the middle of it. Thirty days later,

859
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: now this suspended indefinitely by the NBA for striking use

860
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: of nurkic. Okay, this guy has got a body of work.

861
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: Let's get your thoughts. Let's go out to the phones.

862
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: We're joined by Joe from Alaska. Joe, your thoughts on

863
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: the Draymond Green saga.

864
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 8: Hey, there they stick. McCall. I think anything less than

865
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 8: the rest of the season would not be good for

866
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 8: him because that's just going to give him let time

867
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 8: to work on himself. And I don't think he's gonna

868
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 8: learn in this thing if he doesn't get the center

869
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 8: of the rest of the year. And I don't think

870
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 8: it's gonna look good for the NBA, and it doesn't

871
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 8: set a good example. People are going to Oh, I

872
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 8: can put someone in the headlocks, start to fight and

873
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 8: lose some money to spend a couple of games and

874
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 8: backs on the course. So I think that will happen enough.

875
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: Why do you suppose Drew real quickly, quick question. Why

876
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: do you suppose that the Golden State Warriors continue to

877
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: enable Draymond Green when clearly he's lost the yard office fastball.

878
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: I won't deny that he's been a major contributor to

879
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: their championships, but he's not the same player. Why do

880
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: you suppose they enable this behavior?

881
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 8: I think other than him being a part of their championships,

882
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 8: they might have to do a little bit with the

883
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 8: NBA business side of things, and also maybe giving him

884
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 8: a second chance kind of thing. But Jensen are gone.

885
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Joe, appreciate you checking in speaking of

886
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: this would be a seventh chance again. You're going back

887
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 2: to June to twenty sixteen, the Lebron altercation suspended one game,

888
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: November twenty eighteen, conduct detrimental to the team, suspended one

889
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: game situation with his own teammate Kevin Durant. March twenty

890
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: twenty three, recorded his sixteenth technical that's an automatic one

891
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 2: game suspension, one month later April to twenty twenty three.

892
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: Steps On Demontes Sabonis gets suspended one game November twenty

893
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: twenty three, one month ago, gets a five game suspension

894
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: with Rudy Gobert. So between March April November and now

895
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: we're talking nine months, he's had four altercations that are

896
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: leading to suspensions. This one, this one is indefinite. So

897
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: the league said, the penalty that you know, which was

898
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: handed down by Joe Dumar is a guy, have a

899
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: lot of respect for it. Dealings with him in Detroit.

900
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: It began immediately. It's his second suspension this season. And

901
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: here's the part that makes my teeth itch. Says he'll

902
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 2: be required to meet certain league and team conditions before

903
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: he returns to play. That's what the NBA is saying,

904
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: What the hell does that mean? Coming up, we're gonna

905
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: bring in the crew. Want to get Kevin Stotts. I

906
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 2: want to get shave thoughts. Keep full of lines open

907
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: for your calls. Eight seven seven nine A nine on Fox,

908
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: The Draymond Green saga has a lot of layers, and

909
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: people just don't escape their nature as easily as you

910
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: might think they do. The likelihood is that Draymond's gonna

911
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: do something like this again. And like the caller said,

912
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: Joel said, he's not gonna learn. He's not gonna learn anything.

913
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: You can only hope he exercises restraint. And what have

914
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: you seen? What evidence do you have that leads you

915
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: to believe he's actually going to do that. We'll get

916
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: your thoughts coming up and we'll bring in the crew.

917
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924
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925
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Speaker 2: back at the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming

926
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Speaker 2: to live from the Tarrack dot Com studios here in

927
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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. We are unpacking the Draymondgreen situation. Let's go

928
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Speaker 2: back on to the phone lines, joined by a Bill

929
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: from Virginia. Bill, your thoughts on the Draymond Green saga.

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00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 9: Hey, Bernie, how you doing?

931
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: Should you no bounds?

932
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 9: Is going to work? Work for newspapers?

933
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 2: Alrighty, I named Draymon.

934
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 9: I mean sports is the only thing when you actually

935
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 9: hit somebody and you're non file from our assault. You

936
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 9: know that was a fault guy. He hit that guy

937
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 9: so hard to the knees, you know.

938
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean that's all true, and it's always been that way. Uh,

939
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: and he's got a body of work. You bring up

940
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: an interesting point. But irrespective of that, what do you

941
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: think should happen to Draamond Green? Then? And let of

942
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: your and let of your observation.

943
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 9: I think the uh they should least uh go to counseling.

944
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 9: The DA should be involved. I mean, this is a

945
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 9: post of altercations shouldn't happen. It's the uh in this

946
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 9: time of day, this day and age. I mean, you

947
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 9: need to control yourself. The optics of the sport. You know,

948
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 9: it's definitely definitely bad. I think the average fan don't

949
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 9: like it at all.

950
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Bill, appreciate you checking in. Yet, no

951
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. I do not think that the

952
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: DA or the county prosecutor or whatever the jurisdiction there

953
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: is will get involved in any way. It seemingly never happens. Uh.

954
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 2: But the thing I'm most curious about is what you're

955
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: gonna get him some stupid ten game suspension and say, yeah,

956
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: he went to doctor Ruth and we're all set now,

957
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: not buy an it. Let's go out to the phones.

958
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: Carl from Minnesota, you're up next. What are your thoughts?

959
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me on, Bernie. It feels

960
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 4: like the Warriors are a little scared to put the

961
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 4: lay the law down on Draymond at times. But but

962
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 4: if you ask me, I feel like he should get

963
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 4: half to a full season. But it really feels like

964
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 4: Adam Silver doesn't like to hand out big punishments. I mean,

965
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 4: you look at what happened with John Morant. He didn't

966
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: give very much. And I mean, I mean, you've got

967
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 4: to start laying the law down to to shut down

968
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: things like this. If you asked me, thanks, Bernie, I'll

969
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 4: hang up.

970
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: In the them. Okay, thanks Carl, appreciate your thoughts. You're

971
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: always welcome. Look, and it's I guess it's fair to

972
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: invoke the John Morant situational. It's quite a bit different

973
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: because John Morant, you know the apples and orgies in

974
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: the sense man oh man, o man, we talk about

975
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 2: guns and stuff. Okay, let's set that aside. You are

976
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 2: right throughout John Morant's punishment could have been a lot worse.

977
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: The similarity is is the repeat offenders. For Morant it

978
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: was his second he's just getting going in the league.

979
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: For Draymond it's his seventh. Kevin figures, I want to

980
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: get your thoughts. First of all, how long do you

981
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: think Draymond gets as a suspension and what do you

982
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: think he should get two different questions.

983
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the fact that it's indefinite and I don't

984
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 6: know if they've given themselves an arbitrary timeline as to

985
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 6: when to determine, you know, when they're going to have

986
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 6: a definitive number of games. If I had to guess,

987
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 6: it'd probably be somewhere around the twenty range. And you

988
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 6: reference the fact that he's a repeat offender, and this

989
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 6: is something that's happened over years. There's really no precedent

990
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 6: for this, because look, you go back into the NBA

991
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 6: back in the old days, and you reference the bad

992
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 6: Boy Pistons from years ago, where a lot of the

993
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 6: fouls and a lot of these things were the norm,

994
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 6: but to the point of where you're smacking guys upside

995
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 6: if they had stopping them below the equator, and basically

996
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 6: is unapologetic by most of you know most of these

997
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 6: I know he was somewhat apologetic the other night, but

998
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 6: he can't say that he was trying to make a

999
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 6: basketball move.

1000
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: We all know that that's not true. So whether or

1001
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: not he has to.

1002
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 6: See counseling, if there is something else going on mentally,

1003
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 6: you know, I'm not privy to be able to speak

1004
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 6: to that, but it's something that's been rampant throughout his

1005
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 6: entire career. And if you're the Golden State Warriors, you've

1006
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 6: enabled it, and you've really enabled to be based on

1007
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 6: the fact that you gave him a contract extension last offseason.

1008
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 6: I mean, you basically gave this guy close to her

1009
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 6: pretty much of a maximum contract. And this was in

1010
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 6: the midst of him doing all of these things on

1011
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 6: the court. So as much as Steve Kerr says, yeah,

1012
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 6: he has to act better and everything, it's not they're

1013
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 6: not doing any They're they're basically saying one thing and

1014
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 6: doing another. And I think that's the issue when it

1015
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 6: comes to Golden State, they see him as an asset

1016
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 6: to them on the floor for what he brings defensively,

1017
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 6: giving them a bit of an edge, and almost they're

1018
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 6: just they're willing to accept whatever he takes away from them.

1019
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: When it comes to his antics, I feel like there.

1020
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: Might be a bit of a victim to his prior

1021
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: success because he clearly was a key cog in their

1022
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: championship seasons, There's no two ways about it. And he's

1023
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: lost the yard off his fastball, but he's still a

1024
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: pretty good defender and he's a very good passer. I'm

1025
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: gonna ask you a tough question, though I don't answer it. First,

1026
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: I'd give him a full year. This one's got to hurt.

1027
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 2: This is it. This is his fourth rodeo in the

1028
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: calendar year twenty twenty three. He ain't getting it. He

1029
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: ain't getting it. That might make him think if he

1030
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: didn't play anymore basketball to November of twenty twenty four,

1031
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: would you lay down the hammer or would you perhaps

1032
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: be a little bit more lenient As.

1033
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 6: It were, I'd probably be slightly more lenient than giving

1034
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 6: a full season. I mean, look, the last full season

1035
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 6: suspension we got. I think and correct me if I'm

1036
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 6: wrong toaly our Test and the mallice in the Palace

1037
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 6: that was. I think that was next level, because it's

1038
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 6: one thing to get into it with guys between the lines.

1039
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 6: When you run into the fans and start in to

1040
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 6: the stands and start beating up fans, that makes it

1041
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 6: to a completely different level. So if Ron's got a

1042
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 6: complete season for beating up fans, I do think it's

1043
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 6: a little bit different when you're in the heat of

1044
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 6: battle between the lines and somewhere between fifteen and twenty.

1045
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 6: But I don't know if I would go as far

1046
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 6: as to give him an entire season.

1047
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. We're coming up next year in the

1048
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: twenty year anniversary of the mouse at the Palace, and

1049
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: I was there that night. We were doing a radio remote.

1050
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: I saw the whole thing. People frankly don't tell the

1051
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: story right. Interestingly enough, I don't think that our Test

1052
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: had been in trouble before. And again you waited two.

1053
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: You're right, what he did was a lot more egregious

1054
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: than what Draymond has done. But graymons All also had

1055
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: six or seven incidents. Shae, your thoughts on this, What

1056
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: do you think happens, what would you do, and just

1057
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: your general the general overview.

1058
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 10: Real Cook, I just want to say, that's so cool

1059
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 10: that you were at the Palace. In the palace, I

1060
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 10: didn't know were you up in the media sectually.

1061
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: Well, we were doing a radio remote in the concourse

1062
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: and the show was terminating at eleven pm. We went

1063
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: to our final break and I walked through the you know,

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Speaker 2: the entryway there to see what was going on, and

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Speaker 2: it's just fluky. Precisely that moment, Ben Wallace is driving

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Speaker 2: to the rack for a layout. The game had been

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01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 2: long decided. There's only a minute to go in the game.

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Speaker 2: The Pacers were up by about eighteen and Ron our

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01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: Test follows him really hard from behind and pushes him.

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01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: And then Ben Wallace pushes rom to our Test where

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Speaker 2: he goes and lays on the scorers table. And a

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Speaker 2: beard didn't come flying down, an empty beer cup came

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Speaker 2: flying down. The guy by the name of John Green

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Speaker 2: became a household name in Detroit, and the rest is history. Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, one of the unknown sort of factoids

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Speaker 2: that night, one of the referees on the floor, Tim Donneghey,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, Yes, that that Tim Donnehey, But anyway,

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Speaker 2: let's get your thoughts shay On Ramon.

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Speaker 10: No, Yeah, that's really cool. I wanted to mention that

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 10: just because I've always seen YouTube videos and all that,

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Speaker 10: I've never really heard like a first hand account of it.

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Speaker 2: So that's really cool. Bernie.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean, I mean you hear it from

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Speaker 10: the promos too, from Mike Carmon and from the Jason

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Speaker 10: Smith Show. I mean I agree with him basically where

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Speaker 10: it's not going to change him. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 10: grown man. He's been this way for so long. I

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01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 10: don't think like what like three sessions with a therapist

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01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 10: and some anger management is going to change the guy.

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Speaker 10: He is who he is, and he's made a lot

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01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 10: of money being who he is. And that's another reason

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Speaker 10: why I think that the NBA and the Warriors keep

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01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 10: letting him do this. It's who he's been forever almost.

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Speaker 10: It's kind of something we've always seen from him kicking

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 10: someone in the nuts or doing the craziest things, and

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Speaker 10: it's I mean, they let it happen. And again, like

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Speaker 10: there's never going to be a situation where they go

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Speaker 10: to prison for it, Like there isn't going to be

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Speaker 10: a situation where another player will probably press charges because

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Speaker 10: it's never been done before and it probably will never

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Speaker 10: be done. But the thing with Draymond is again, like

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Speaker 10: I think they'll end up suspending him for the year.

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01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 10: I really do, just because of the media outcry. This time.

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Speaker 10: It's a lot different from the others, especially because it's

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Speaker 10: back to back to back so early in the season.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's keeping the Warriors in the headlines, I guess,

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01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 10: which is good for the Warriors. They're happy, and especially

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01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 10: in a year they're like ten and fourteen.

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: They don't want kind of headline big fellow, Are you

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01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: sure about that? Though? Positive, because it's become a circus act.

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01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 10: But at that point they would do something about it.

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01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: But now it's like they know what DJ infamous, the

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01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: missing link. He's a Pete one listener to our show.

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01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Listen to what he said via Twitter.

1115
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: I believe Kerr wants to remain a player's coach versus

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01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: disciplining his players. I'm sure Bob Myers had enough of

1117
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: the favoritism in the organization. Bob Myers was the president.

1118
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: He's since left. He's on TV now Towards the players

1119
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: you saw Charles Barkley congratulated for jumping off a sinking ship.

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Speaker 2: Draymond quote won't learn his lesson unless his suspension holds

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Speaker 2: all season. You got the last word, Shay, And I

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01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: think that's the key point to learn here if you

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Speaker 2: want to rehabilitate Draymond, He's got no chance of learning

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Speaker 2: this lesson unless he misses all year. You got the

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Speaker 2: last word. Oh, I definitely agree. I agree with that

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 10: If he needs to miss a year, I still don't

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Speaker 10: think it will change him at all and he'll come

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01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 10: back the same. But yeah, I think it's going to

1130
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 10: be a year max or at minimum.

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Speaker 2: All right, buddy, good stuff. Appreciate both you guys and

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Speaker 2: your input. And by the way, uh, Draymond wasn't the

1133
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: only one who got a little hot under the collar

1134
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: this week. Can you imagine fighting over a game ball.

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01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: We'll take you down that road coming up, And first,

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Speaker 2: le's go back to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, Friday night in the NBA, jayleb Brunson dominated.

1138
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 6: He had nine of his three pointers, and I should

1139
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 6: say he made all nine of his three pointers, and

1140
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 6: he scored fifty points. Lead the Knicks to a one

1141
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 6: thirty nine to one twenty two victory over the Suns.

1142
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 6: Phoenix has lost four of their last five games. Jason

1143
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 6: Tatum scored thirty points and a one twenty eight to

1144
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 6: one eleven Celtics win over Orlando San Antonio snapped its

1145
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 6: eighteen game losing streak. They defeated the Lakers one twenty

1146
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 6: nine to one fifteen. You had thirty five points and

1147
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 6: four block shots for Joel Embiid in a one twenty

1148
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 6: four to ninety two victory over Detroit, who has lost

1149
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 6: twenty two consecutive games. And NFL News, Davis Mills likely

1150
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 6: to be the starting quarterback for the Texans on Sunday

1151
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 6: against Tennessee, as C. J. Stroud is listed as doubtful

1152
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 6: with the concussion and Commander's running back Brian Robinson has

1153
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 6: been ruled out against the Rams with a hamstring injury.

1154
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 6: In college football, Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers is transferring

1155
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 6: to the University of Washington. The State of Washington Supreme

1156
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 6: Court has lifted the state from a lower court, giving

1157
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 6: Oregon State and Washington State total control of the PAC

1158
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 6: twelve board and its assets, all right back to Bernie Frido.

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01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Buddy Yannis and the game ball mystery. Yep

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01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: Yannis in the news this week. It's hard to remember

1161
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: when the affable, likable Jannis and Tennecoupo got as upset

1162
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 2: as you would have seen him Thursday night, and you

1163
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: would have thought it might have been a joyce evening,

1164
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: but it was. Instead, the headlines are all about a

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01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: game ball, a shove, and even some yelling what the

1166
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 2: hell happened? Well, Yallas scored a career high sixty four

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01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: points in Milwaukee's won forty one to twenty six win

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Speaker 2: over Indiana the other night, career high and a Bucks record. Incredibly,

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01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: did it without even making a single three pointer. Player

1170
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: to scored sixty points without a three since Shaq did

1171
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 2: it twenty three years ago. Now, after the game, the

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Speaker 2: Pacers allegedly took the game ball, intending to give it

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01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: to rookie Oster Schuibey from Kentucky. He scored his first

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Speaker 2: NBA points that night. Now, Antennakoupo and by extension, all

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01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 2: the Bucks they were mad. They were angry about this.

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01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: Some of them chased after the Pacers into the tunnel

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Speaker 2: leading into the visitors' locker room looking for the ball. Now,

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Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle even alleged that as general manager, Chad Buchanan

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: had been elbowed in the ribs during the freakus. Now,

1180
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: the dispute even continued on into the postgame interviews, and

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01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: that's where Yannis could be seen arguing with PACER's star

1182
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: Tyrese Halliburn. Now, both Giannis and Lillard said after the

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01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: game they believe the Pacers took the ball, yet one

1184
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: video showed the Bucks ending up with the game ball

1185
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: at least on the floor. Now, this is an using situation.

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: We don't have clarity. I don't know if you want

1187
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: to call it game ballgate or whatever the hell you

1188
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: want to call it. But you know what's interesting, this

1189
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: one that kind of got a kick out of These

1190
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: guys are human because you had two very mild mannered

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01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 2: superstars in less than a week snap a little bit.

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01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: One was Giannison Tennakoupo, the other Patrick Mahomes. And by

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: the way, Kadarius Tony, you are one thousand percent in

1194
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: the wrong. If you're a wide receiver played I was

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01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. I sable. You look at the line

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01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: of scrimmage, you look you forget it. I'm not even

1197
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: gonna go down that road. You gotta know better. Forgive me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going down that road. Coming up. Another guy

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Speaker 2: spoke out this week in rhymes with Cam Newton, and

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Speaker 2: he gave speeches on game managers which raised the ire

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Speaker 2: of lots of people, including me. Selle have that for

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Speaker 2: you coming up. I'm Bernie fraddlewor Kenedy Lve from the

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tyrack dot com studios. Locked

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Speaker 2: right here, you're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. All right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Come to you live from the Tirak

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. Take up to

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01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,479
Speaker 2: two am Pacific five a m. Eastern before I dive

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Speaker 2: into the Cam Newton wisdom. One quick final tweet on

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Speaker 2: Draymond I think this is a good one from Tiburan

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01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: six seven to two. Oh. I believe Draymond Green felt

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01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: free to deliver the punch because he received such little

1213
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 2: consequences for the choke hold. It's a very fair point. Obviously,

1214
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: his prior punishments has not served as a deterrent. All right,

1215
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: Cam Newton made some headlines this week because well, he

1216
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 2: felt compelled to give him his observations on multiple starting

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01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the National Football League. Let's give it a listen.

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Speaker 11: Lamar Jackson, obviously, Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott brat parody like,

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01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 11: but brock Let's they're not winning because of him.

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Speaker 2: He's not turning the ball over. He's managing the game.

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Speaker 11: And if we were to put that in its own right,

1222
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 11: as game managers, brock parody to a tongue of below,

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01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:28,839
Speaker 11: Jared Goff and really Dak Prescott, these are game managers.

1224
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 11: They're not different makers. And when you say game manager,

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 11: I'm not asking you to go out and win the game.

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01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 11: I'm just asking not to lose the game. That's listening.

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Speaker 11: I don't give a damn what you do. You don't

1228
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 11: have to score every time. You just don't have to

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01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 11: throw a pick every time either. If we're gonna really

1230
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 11: call a spade a spade, a game manager is different

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Speaker 11: than a game changer.

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Speaker 2: With all their respect, because I think Cam Newton's Cam

1233
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 2: Newton's legacy in the National Football League is secure. He

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01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: took a one to fifteen, got him to the Super Bowl,

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01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: won a National championship, at Auburn. He played hard and

1236
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: he was effective until he wasn't. And that happens to everybody.

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01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: Father time and gravity catch up with everybody. Uh. When

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: I hear comments like that, they make my teeth ititch aw.

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01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: He's got a right to his opinion, but that doesn't

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01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: mean I have to agree with it. Frankly, that's I

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01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: would call that. Let's play Mickey the dunk segment. First

1242
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Speaker 2: of all, I want to address two things there. There

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01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 2: for what for some reason, there is this connotation that

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01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: if you're labeled a game manager or a system quarterback. Uh,

1245
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: that's that's a swear word. That's a bad thing, breaking news.

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01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: Guess what. Tom Brady was a game manager. Tom Brady

1247
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: was a system quarterback. So is Joe Montana. So is

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Speaker 2: everybody who's ever gotten under center in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Because you have to function within the framework of a system. Now,

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01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: Brock Purty happens to operate at a very high level

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: in that same system. Trey Lance had a chance at

1252
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: that same system. What the hell happened to him? Tua

1253
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:18,480
Speaker 2: has been healthy, He's been highly effective in that system.

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 2: Under Mike McDaniel. He operates at a very high level.

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: In that system, and until recently with Jared Goffin has

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01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: turnedover same thing, AND's certainly Dak Prescott, who I called

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01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: mister October, I would never sure their game managers. You

1258
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: have to manage the game, and nobody asks you not

1259
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: to lose the game. You have to have a base

1260
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: level of talent in the National Football League to be

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Speaker 2: a quarterback in the first place, and I'm going to

1262
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: get that to that just a second. The other swear

1263
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: word is again system quarterback. They're all system quarterbacks. You

1264
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: have to function within the framework of a system. So

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01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: to Cam Newton, Now what happens when the play breaks

1266
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: down and you have to make plays off script. If

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01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: you haven't watched film on brock Perty and see the

1268
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: tight windows he's thrown into the ability to keep plays

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01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: alive with his feet, his accuracy, I'm sorry. He's made

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01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: enough big time throws to me that he's more than

1271
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: just a simple game manager. You don't want a game.

1272
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 2: Game breakers don't win Super Bowls. I'm as big a

1273
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 2: Michael Vick fan as you'll ever find. Never won a

1274
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Neither did Fran Tarkenton once it, Neither has

1275
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and neither will justin fields. Here's the situation.

1276
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 2: A quarterback's most important trait period period is the importance

1277
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: of recognition. You've got to be able to make. Quarterback

1278
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 2: is a position you play with your eyes. You make

1279
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: pre snap reads, you process coverages, you receive the ball,

1280
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: then you make your post snap reads and see how

1281
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: they match up with your pre snap observations, and then

1282
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: you have less than two seconds to execute. I don't

1283
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: give a damn how fast you run, how high you jump,

1284
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: or if you can throw the ball farther than Uncle Rico.

1285
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: You can't hold on to the damn ball paging justin fields.

1286
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 2: You have to get it out of your hand to

1287
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 2: do that. That requires recognition. If you do that and

1288
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: you are recognizing the game plan that the offensive coordinator

1289
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 2: has spent hours putting together. The pieces of a puzzle

1290
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: all have to work in an NFL offense, they're very sophisticated.

1291
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: That requires recognition. That requires the ability to be a

1292
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: game manager and to be a system quarterback. It is

1293
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: not a swear word to be either one of those.

1294
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: The question is, within the framework of a system and

1295
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: within the ability that you have to manage a game,

1296
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 2: what is your ceiling, how high can you go? And

1297
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks that were mentioned, brock to A, Jared Goff,

1298
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: and Dak Prescott have all shown that as game managers

1299
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: and as system quarterbacks, they've all been able to, certainly,

1300
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: at least at times maybe not always, manage the game

1301
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: at a very high level and run the system at

1302
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 2: a high level. Of course, they're difference makers. If you

1303
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: help your team win, you're a difference maker. Define difference

1304
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: maker cam. You want somebody to be able to run

1305
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: around like a whirling dervish, then watch Monty Python. Now

1306
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 2: I get it. There are times a quarterback may need

1307
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: to move his feet to keep a play alive. Take note,

1308
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: you still got to play the position with your eyes.

1309
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 2: If the defense is in man de mand, well, that

1310
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: could be a green light to run north and south

1311
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: since the defensive backs are facing away from you, except

1312
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 2: for the safety who's probably thirty yards away. If the

1313
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: defense is in a zone, you roll Laterally, you give

1314
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: your receivers a chance to sided just their routes get open,

1315
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: create a positive play. The truth of the matter is

1316
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: it's mostly between the years. Simple as that. I don't

1317
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: care who you are when you come out. You know yes,

1318
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 2: you got to be able to operate in the pocket

1319
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: slide maneuver, but you've got to keep your eyes downfield.

1320
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: The position of quarterbacks is demanding as any position in

1321
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: the world. It's the thinnest position in all of sports.

1322
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: You got to combine intellectual ability. You got to adapt

1323
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 2: in an incident instant excuse me. You got to have

1324
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: the physical attributes that you can evade large defenders who

1325
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 2: could all run fast. The games become basketball on turf.

1326
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: Everybody's a track star out there. Linebackers run like DB's

1327
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 2: did twenty years ago. Defensive ends run like linebackers twenty

1328
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: years ago. You got to have emotional stability. You got

1329
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: to be a leader of men. What's interesting is that

1330
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm not the only one that pushed back on Cam

1331
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 2: Newton on the show Get Up Kimer Lee Martin, she

1332
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 2: came after Cam Newton as well. She said, quote in

1333
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: the year twenty twenty three, where it's all about NFL backups,

1334
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 2: where is Cam Kimberly Martin said, He's on an NFL roster, right,

1335
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 2: so he's talking about all these NFL game managers. He

1336
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 2: sounds like people literally tweeting at me from their basement like,

1337
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: get back in the kitchen. You're home watching me, just

1338
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 2: turned the TV off. It sounds so foolish. Now. Cam

1339
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: hasn't played since the twenty twenty one season. He only

1340
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: completed fifty four percent of his passes when he was

1341
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 2: with the Carolina Panthers, four touchdowns, five interceptions. He only

1342
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: threw for six hundred and eighty yards. Cam has not

1343
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 2: been a significant difference maker in six years. In twenty

1344
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: eighteen season, he threw for thirty four hundred yards twenty

1345
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: four tds against thirteen picks while he was in Carolina.

1346
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: As far as the players he criticized, Cam might want

1347
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: to note this, each of those guys have their team

1348
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: in contention, certainly for the playoffs and possibly even the

1349
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. For my money, as long as brock Perty

1350
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: doesn't get hurt, the Niners are win of the Super Bowl,

1351
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 2: and he has a lot to do with it. You

1352
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: saw what happen when he went down. This ain't so

1353
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 2: easy playing quarterback and the National Football League is an

1354
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: absolute nightmare. You've got to have the physical makeup. But

1355
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 2: by the way, if you don't think prock Party does,

1356
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 2: you've got a different agenda. You're not watching him he's

1357
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 2: quicker than you think he is. He's got a better

1358
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: arm than you think he is. He worked on his

1359
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 2: velocity with Tom Howse. But he makes decisions. His ability

1360
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,839
Speaker 2: to recognize what he's seeing based on his pre snap

1361
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: reeds and his polls nap reeds, make the right decision

1362
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: and execute within two seconds is as well as good

1363
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 2: as I've seen. If he wasn't mister Irrelevant, I don't

1364
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: think people would. I think he'd be getting a hell

1365
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 2: of a lot more. He'd be getting more flowers. People

1366
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: just waiting for him to fail after the great year

1367
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 2: he had last year. Well, I haven't seen enough. You're

1368
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 2: never going to see enough because you're rooting for him

1369
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: to fail. You figure out why. Interestingly enough, if Trey

1370
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: Lance had been doing exactly what Rock Party's been doing,

1371
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: he probably run for president, maybe even win. But you've

1372
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,959
Speaker 2: not only got to have physical makeup, arm, talent, passing

1373
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: skills right, and all the intangibles. That's what sets apart

1374
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 2: talented quarterbacks from great quarterbacks. Tangibles. It's the stuff you

1375
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 2: can't coach, you can't teach. Steve Young once said, the

1376
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 2: most important thing the quarterback must have is the will

1377
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: to refuse to lose the ability to communicate with his

1378
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 2: teammates and have a situation where the quarterback will do

1379
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 2: what it takes to win and carry the team. Now

1380
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: that part is what Cam Newton's talking about. Maybe you

1381
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 2: know being a difference maker. But an NFL game where

1382
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna run eighty offensive plays that might only come

1383
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 2: down to four or five plays tops tops, and that

1384
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: that can decide whether you win or lose the game.

1385
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: But as you manage the game, you might throw one

1386
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 2: into the stands to live another day. Joe Namath had

1387
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: to learn that the hard way. You might want to

1388
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: take the proverbial sack. Make a decision that allows your

1389
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 2: team to win. But making that decision, learning first to

1390
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: read and recognize the nature and structure of what a

1391
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 2: defense is showing you as a whole is something very

1392
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 2: few quarterbacks can do. And if you do that, you

1393
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: are a great game manager and you are a great

1394
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 2: system quarterback. Because when the ball is snapped and the

1395
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 2: defense shifts post snap all of a sudden, there can

1396
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: be real confusion. What if the defense shows you a

1397
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: two safety look all of a sudden, in the middle

1398
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 2: of the field is open, and now the ball, snap

1399
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: and they move to a single safety. Now where's the man?

1400
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 2: Is he in cover one? Is he in zone? Did

1401
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: the corners give space? Do they bring pressure? Does the

1402
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 2: front structure Chaine? This is what makes playing quarterback so complex.

1403
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: Your computer brain has to be operating at warp speed.

1404
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 2: When sixty thousand people are screaming, two million people are

1405
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: watching on TV. Everything in the world is on the line.

1406
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: And the volume of information you have to absorb in

1407
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: process before and after the snap that's gonna determine whether

1408
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 2: or not you can repeat success At the NFL level.

1409
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 2: Defensive coordinators are grown men. They're gonna make you think.

1410
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 2: They're gonna make you work. You gotta split decision to read,

1411
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: make decisions and then execute based on what you are

1412
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 2: looking at. You don't just take off and run like

1413
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: you did in college. They're gonna force you to stand

1414
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 2: in the pocket and make complex throws to covered receivers.

1415
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 2: And if you want to take off and run and

1416
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 2: run into a linebacker, it's gonna happen to justin fields again.

1417
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna knock them silly. So can With all due respect,

1418
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 2: you got a right to share your opinion, but I'm

1419
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: not a fan of your opinion, because it's not a

1420
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: swear word to be a game manager or a system quarterback,

1421
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 2: because every quarterback has to operate in the system and

1422
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 2: manage the game. Coming up, we got three NFL games Saturday.

1423
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 2: Let's talk about them. I'm Bernie Frattle keep it locked.

1424
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,360
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1425
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,920
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Speaker 2: I get into Saturday's games, it's always kind of coolest

1432
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 2: time of the year when you have that Saturday triple header.

1433
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 2: You know, you're just within days of Santa Claus coming

1434
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: and we are in the holiday season. We'll have a tripleheader.

1435
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 2: It kicks off here nine hours. We'll dive into that.

1436
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: But again, in case you missed it or you were

1437
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 2: under a rocker on Mars, Brandon Staley, who was already

1438
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,879
Speaker 2: on the hot seat as the Chargers head coach. Well,

1439
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 2: his team got, as Kevin would say, molly locked by

1440
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: the Raiders Thursday night, sixty three to twenty one. And

1441
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: what's interesting is you hear that final score and truthfully,

1442
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: it actually makes the game look closer than it really was.

1443
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: The Chargers didn't score to a third quarter. By that time,

1444
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: they had already spotted the Raiders a forty nine to

1445
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: nothing lead. The next sea you know, it was sixty

1446
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 2: three to seven before the Chargers scored two completely meaningless

1447
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: touchdowns in the fourth quarter. The thing to note score

1448
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: was forty two to nothing at halftime. And at that point,

1449
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 2: if you don't think the Chargers were getting dominated, they

1450
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 2: only ran twenty five offensive plays. They only had seventh

1451
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 2: series in the first half. They had a run up

1452
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: the middle to bleed out the clock on the final

1453
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: play of the first half, and they averaged three yards

1454
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 2: checked that three plays per drive. Their punter got a

1455
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: lot of work, and they had four points. So by

1456
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: the way, just for fun, three fumbles, including one on

1457
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 2: special teams, and a turnover on downs. The Raiders only

1458
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: the third team in NFL history to shut out their

1459
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 2: opponent in the first half. While scoring at least forty

1460
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: two points. Goodbye, Brandon day, have fun. This is probably

1461
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: a long time in coming. And now let the let

1462
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,959
Speaker 2: the speculation begin. The names are flying right and left.

1463
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 2: Will it be a big name like Belichick or Harbaugh,

1464
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 2: Could it be the enemy? Could it be some of

1465
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:25,839
Speaker 2: the perhaps new Neuville reache offensive coordinators like Ben Johnson

1466
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: from Detroit or Frank Smith from Miami or Kellen Moore.

1467
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 2: I don't think any of those. I think the Chargers

1468
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 2: need to make a big splash. And if you heard

1469
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: my interview with Steve Hartman the first hour, we kind

1470
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: of broke down the possibilities, and he is fairly adamant

1471
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: that the legal pressure the Chargers to hire Jim Harbaugh.

1472
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,759
Speaker 2: I know Harball's got a man crushed on Justin Herbert.

1473
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: And the only question would be with the Chargers, who

1474
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: were notoriously they were paying Brandon Staley for million year.

1475
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: I get it. That's Brandon Staley. They pay a Jim

1476
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: Harbaugh fifteen million a year. That's what I think it's

1477
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 2: gonna take. So we'll see how that. We'll see how

1478
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 2: that all hall shakes out in the in the coming days,

1479
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: in weeks, It's not an easy decision for the Spanos family.

1480
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: The only other time they have fired a coach mid

1481
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: season twenty five years ago Kevin Gilbride, and he was

1482
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: every bit the utter achiever that Brandon stately was. Only

1483
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: lasted twenty two games and of course my everlasting and

1484
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: you'd probably find this on YouTube. There was a Monday

1485
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 2: night game, I think it was in nineteen ninety two

1486
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: or ninety three, when Kevin Gilbride was I think the

1487
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: offensive coordinated for one of Buddy Ryan's teams, and Buddy

1488
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: punched him in the jaw in the middle of the

1489
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: game on the sideline. It was a beauty. Who do

1490
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 2: you think he is? Draymond Green. By the way, Tonight's

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Speaker 2: All right, eight hours, fifty five minutes. The NFL Saturday

1496
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: NFL I Love It Cincinnati Bengals will be hosting the

1497
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 2: visiting Minnesota Vikings laying three. Both teams are seven and six.

1498
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: Both teams have designs on getting to the playoffs. Both

1499
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: teams will be featuring backup quarterbacks. But hey, you know

1500
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 2: Jake Browning and this Bengals offense coming off back to

1501
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 2: back wins, Well, they say styles bank fights. Well, they're

1502
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 2: gonna have to contend one of the best defenses in

1503
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,919
Speaker 2: the league right now. This is a really good matchup.

1504
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 2: Over the past eight weeks, Brian Flores has done an

1505
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 2: outstanding job with the Vikings defense. They lead the NFL

1506
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: and fewest points allowed per drive one point four, fewest

1507
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: points a lot per game fifteen point three. Why because

1508
01:24:55,040 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: the Vikings get very stingy in the red zone. There

1509
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: is a lot at stake for this game. This would

1510
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: be one of the biggest games in the act of

1511
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,799
Speaker 2: the weekend in my opinion, in terms of playoffs Wings

1512
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: because if you believe in the probabilities and analytics and

1513
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 2: all that, and that you know, two bucks will get

1514
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 2: you a cup of coffee, Winchles. The Bengals can improve

1515
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,879
Speaker 2: to a thirty five percent chance to make the playoffs

1516
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 2: if they win, but if they lose, the Bengals lose

1517
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 2: their odds shrink to ten percent. Meanwhile, the Vikings. They're

1518
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: chasing a wild card spot. They're alive in the NFC

1519
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 2: North race. Matter mathematically, but if the Vikings win, based

1520
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: on where they sit, they would have a seventy nine

1521
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: percent chance to make the playoffs and a twenty one

1522
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 2: percent chance to win the division. With the win, I

1523
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 2: think they still get to have to play the lines twice,

1524
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: but those numbers fall to a fifty one percent chance

1525
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs and only eight percent to win

1526
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 2: the division if they lose. What do I think I think?

1527
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 2: I think Cincinnati holds servant home. I do I think

1528
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: Jake Browning's you know, I know Chris Peterson raved to

1529
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: bottom when he had him at Washington. He's he's gonna

1530
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: be he. He's gonna face the defense. It's gonna try

1531
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: to confuse him. We'll see what happens. But lou Anarumo's

1532
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: defense is no slouch either. And if you're telling me

1533
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 2: Nick Mallins is a major league quarterback, Yeah, Bill Lumberg,

1534
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you. You

1535
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 2: can give you those TPS reports. I feel like Cincinnati

1536
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: wins the game. It's one I think it's a one

1537
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 2: score game. It feels like it feels like a twenty

1538
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: three to seventeen Tech game. For me, that is just

1539
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: my read. In three and a half hours later, you

1540
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: have two other teams also at seven and six. I

1541
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: guess it's going around. Huh Steelers. I don't know what

1542
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 2: the hell's gotten into them. They don't look like the

1543
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: Steelers anymore. They might be wearing the uniforms, but boy,

1544
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 2: the standard is not the standard right now in Pittsburgh.

1545
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 2: They don't look good. They visit the Indianapolis Colts, who

1546
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 2: are also seven to six. Basically a Pickham game. This

1547
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: Colts are laying one and a half now the Steelers,

1548
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 2: and this is one of those trends that doesn't correlate

1549
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 2: to me. The Steelers have won eightsecutive games against the Colts,

1550
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 2: including regular season and postseason. It's a pretty impressive streak

1551
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 2: that began back in twenty eleven the Colts. The last

1552
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: time the Colts beat the Steelers was in twenty oh eight,

1553
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: but they had Peyton Manning then and Mike Tomlin, who

1554
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 2: actually is was hired the year before. He's eight and

1555
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: one against Indianapolis. He's never lost at Lucas Souel Stadium,

1556
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: but I don't know that that matters right now. What

1557
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: kind of quarterback player you're going to get out of

1558
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: the Colts. Maybe Gardner Mitchew comes up with one of

1559
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: his patented games, and I don't know. I guess Mitch Trubisky.

1560
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: You know, he had pretty good numbers in Chicago, no

1561
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: one wants to admit that, but he does not looked

1562
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: good in Pittsburgh. You know, they fired Mack Canada. I

1563
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: don't think the offenses has changed again. The beauty of

1564
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: this game as similar to the first game I just

1565
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 2: talked about, of course, Vikings Bengals, is that this is

1566
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 2: huge for the AFC Wildcat race. If Indianapolis can win

1567
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: this game, they improve their odds to sixty four percent

1568
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 2: chance in getting him to the playoffs. But then he

1569
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 2: loses to Pittsburgh, that drops to twenty two percent. The Steelers.

1570
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: If they get a road win here Saturday forty eight percent,

1571
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 2: they get back on track to get to the playoffs.

1572
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 2: But another loss, they're down to ten percent to get

1573
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 2: to the playoffs, and the Steelers would fall to seven and seven.

1574
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: This is a coin flip game. It's a coin flip game.

1575
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 2: They could come down to the proverbial turnover, whatever the

1576
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: case may be. I could see the Colts winning this

1577
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: game by a touchdown. I could see the Steelers winning

1578
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 2: this game by a field goal. It's an absolute stay

1579
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: away from me because you just don't know what you're

1580
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 2: gonna get, especially coming out of the Steelers. But it's

1581
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 2: gonna have a playoff type field because for all intents

1582
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 2: and purposes, it is a playoff game. But if I

1583
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 2: don't only watch one game Saturday, it cracks me up

1584
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: how everybody's losing their mind about the Lions. Look, they've

1585
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: won seventeen of their last twenty three games in the

1586
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,560
Speaker 2: last two years. They're nine to four. I get it.

1587
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 2: They scuffle recently, Clearly the defense has regressed. But worst

1588
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 2: case scenario, worst case scenario, I think the Lions end

1589
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 2: up ten and seven, eleven and six. They're gonna win

1590
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: the division. They're gonna get one home playoff game. But

1591
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: you'd like to start to write the shift. They're a

1592
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 2: four point favorite, and this is a Saturday night game.

1593
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 2: It'll be rocking at Ford Field. But you really got

1594
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 2: to give Sean Payton a company massive credit for what

1595
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 2: they have managed to do in turning that team around.

1596
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: This season. But back to the Lions. The Lions who

1597
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 2: lost two other past three games. Meanwhile, the Broncos, they've

1598
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 2: won six of their past seven and they actually don't

1599
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 2: look now. But as long as Kansas City keeps losing.

1600
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: And the Chargers, we've already talked about them and the Raiders,

1601
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere. They're playing for pride and they're

1602
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 2: giving a real effort under Antonio Pierce. The Broncos are

1603
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: theoretically not out of the AFC West title. They're not

1604
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 2: out of it. But this will also be a reunion

1605
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 2: of Dan Campbell and his mentor, Sean Payton, who's obviously

1606
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: the coach of the Broncos. Now. Dan Campbell. People don't

1607
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 2: know this. They spent five He spent five seasons on

1608
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 2: Sean Payton's staff as an assistant head coach tight ends

1609
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 2: coach back from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty on the

1610
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 2: teams that Peyton coached. And obviously there's a lot of

1611
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 2: mutual respect betwo those two guys, and I think that

1612
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 2: you know, they traded compliments this past week. And here's

1613
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 2: what you got to watch the Broncos defense, and they've really,

1614
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 2: they have really stepped up and gotten back to their

1615
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 2: form from twenty twenty two. They've gotten twenty sacks and

1616
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 2: eighteen takeaways over the past seven games. You know they're

1617
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 2: gonna come off after Jared Goff. They're gonna hit him

1618
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 2: like Rocky Bell, ball and Goff. You know, I liked

1619
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: here at Goff, but he's been a bit of a

1620
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 2: turnover machine. But again, what's at stake in this game?

1621
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 2: Playoff stuff? Guys. If the Lions win, they'll have a

1622
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 2: ninety percent chance to be in the playoffs, still seventy

1623
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 2: four percent chance if they lose, But they want to

1624
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 2: win that NFC North title. Check that both those percentages

1625
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 2: are having to do the NFC North. But the Broncos,

1626
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: if they steal a road win here, they're gonna be

1627
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 2: making some real noise their odds. Their playoff odds would

1628
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 2: jump to sixty five percent. Loss drops him und to

1629
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 2: thirty one percent. But the fact that we're mentioning the

1630
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:41,719
Speaker 2: word Broncos playoffs after starting out one and four, well

1631
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: you make your own headline there. What's the bottom line?

1632
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 2: The Lions are thirty one and sixteen against the number

1633
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 2: under Campbell. They very much I've been very good at home.

1634
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 2: You know, I expect Russell Wilson as receivers to have

1635
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 2: a good day, but I don't think they'll. The Lions

1636
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,799
Speaker 2: had genuine offensive firepower and they can score thirty points,

1637
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 2: and I don't think the Broncos game, but I don't

1638
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 2: think either team is going to do that. This honestly

1639
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 2: feels like a twenty six to twenty game Lions. There's

1640
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 2: no way I can bet the Broncos in the spot,

1641
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 2: but I'm not in a hurry to lay the four either.

1642
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:20,520
Speaker 2: So We've got three games that all have playoff implications,

1643
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: all have teams with above five hundred records, and all

1644
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 2: have Markey coaches, quarterbacks, things that have been making headlines.

1645
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 2: So I'm excited. I think Saturday NFL football in December

1646
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 2: again to sign Santa claus is not far off on

1647
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 2: the horizon, and the holidays are here, and I love

1648
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 2: Saturday football and the National Football League. When we get

1649
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 2: into December, we've only got four weeks left. Where they

1650
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,759
Speaker 2: are eighteen weeks now in the National Football League, seventeen games.

1651
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 2: This is Week fifteen. The season will terminate till the

1652
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 2: weekend of January sixth, so we got a bit of

1653
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 2: ways to go. There's no saying they always remember what

1654
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 2: you did in December, and you've got six teams that

1655
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,799
Speaker 2: have a chance to leave their mark on Saturday. Speaking

1656
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 2: of leaving his mark, not only did sho heey Otani's

1657
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 2: seven hundred million dollar quarterback turn heads this past week,

1658
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 2: but the deferrals and the way the contract was structured

1659
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 2: really turned heads. Coming out will make sense of the

1660
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: Otani deferrals. I'm Bernie Fraddle or Company Live the Las

1661
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tarract dot Com Studios. Keep it

1662
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 2: locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show

1663
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Hi, We're back on the Bernie

1664
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 2: Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio. Come to live the TIRAC

1665
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 2: dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. So many headlines

1666
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 2: this past week, it was unreal. But perhaps and certainly

1667
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 2: before the Gramon situation and some of the other Missu gots,

1668
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't just the Otani contract that made headlines seven

1669
01:33:54,479 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars, It was the structure of the contract. Somehow.

1670
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 2: While the seven hundred million dollar contract that Shoheyotani signed

1671
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 2: ended up getting a lot more interesting when it was

1672
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 2: reported that Otani at his behest would defer a large

1673
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 2: majority of his seventy million dollar annual salary. That's unpacked.

1674
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 2: This yes, Otani not only agreed, he requested that he

1675
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 2: would take just a two million dollars salary per year

1676
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 2: over the entire length of the ten year contract. After that,

1677
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 2: the Dodgers will pay him sixty eight million per year

1678
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 2: with no interest to crewed on that amount for the

1679
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:45,520
Speaker 2: remaining ten years. So it's really a twenty year contract

1680
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 2: for seven one hundred million dollars. And by the way,

1681
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 2: you don't need to take up a collection plate for Hoyotani.

1682
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: According to Sportico, Otani made forty million dollars last year

1683
01:34:55,520 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 2: in endorsements and the next high player was Mike Trout

1684
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 2: at five million. But it turns out to be a

1685
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 2: bit of a financial boon for the Dodgers, if there

1686
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 2: could be such a thing, because they save money threefold. First, immediately,

1687
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 2: they save sixty eight million dollars per year. That obviously

1688
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: opens up a lot of payroll space to spend another players.

1689
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:30,560
Speaker 2: Then there are the luxury tax savings because and I

1690
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 2: don't know how they do this math. Not like I'm

1691
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 2: a high school dropout. I went to full six years.

1692
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,640
Speaker 2: But how they arrived at this, They'll have to tell me.

1693
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 2: They've determined that Otani's official average annual value will be

1694
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 2: forty six million. That's still twenty four million dollars less

1695
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,919
Speaker 2: than the seventy million we thought he'd be making annually,

1696
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 2: So of course that helps the bottom line for the Dodgers.

1697
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 2: It makes you wonder if any other executives might raise

1698
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: an issue with the whole thing. They can do it

1699
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: all day long. Nobody violated any rules. There's no limit

1700
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 2: to the amount you want to defer. Most players don't

1701
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: want to do this. It's obvious money today is worth

1702
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 2: more than money tomorrow. You're better off in your pocket.

1703
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 2: You've got use of it. By the way, long term,

1704
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 2: due to inflation, paying Shoho Tani sixty eight million, say

1705
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 2: in the year twenty forty three, which would be the

1706
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 2: final year of his contract, which will mean paying him

1707
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 2: a lot less than sixty eight million, and twenty twenty

1708
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 2: four would have been so that is far down the road.

1709
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 2: Twenty years feels like a long way away, but nonetheless

1710
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 2: the math will checks, so for a Tani it may

1711
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 2: come out in the wash. Okay, yes, that sixty eight

1712
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,919
Speaker 2: million per year will be worth less than a decade.

1713
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 2: But at that point, Shoho Tani can establish his residents anywhere, and,

1714
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 2: according to the Associated Press, theoretically avoid California's higher tax rate.

1715
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, and we have a lot of listeners

1716
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 2: five seventy AM in Los Angeles, we have listeners in

1717
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 2: San Francisco and around the state. I'm pretty sure that

1718
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 2: the state withholding is thirteen percent. You can tweet at

1719
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,839
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong or right or whatever. Thirteen percent

1720
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 2: of sixty eight million dollars. That's a tidy what little

1721
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: under nine million dollars a year that would go to

1722
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 2: Uncle Sugar, the franchise tax board. Gavin News can give

1723
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: all the speeches he wants. Is about how they're one

1724
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 2: of the lower tax states. At least that's what I

1725
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 2: think I heard. Allegedly. Yeah, I'm not buying it, but regardless, again,

1726
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 2: I'm getting off track here. He can avoid a high

1727
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 2: tax rate in California if in fact he's no longer

1728
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 2: living in California after the end of the contract. He

1729
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 2: starts collecting that sixty eight million in twenty thirty four. Now,

1730
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: it's expected that Otani will also make about an estimated

1731
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars this year and in the future on

1732
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 2: endorsement deals that likely won't slow down anytime soon, so

1733
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 2: it gives him plenty of flexibility to accept last now

1734
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 2: and he made forty man last year. Matter of fact,

1735
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 2: fanatics reported the other day Great Company that Otani they'd

1736
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 2: set a one day record for Otani Jersey sales, passing

1737
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 2: up Messi's record earlier in the year. Now, these details

1738
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 2: were kind of sort of unreported last Saturday night when

1739
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 2: this contract, this historical contract with Otani was announced, and

1740
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 2: it was suggested, to the best of our knowledge, it

1741
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 2: was Shoeyotani himself during the negotiations that hit him with

1742
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 2: the seven hundred dollars figure and the deal got finalized,

1743
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 2: and this unusual structure was also promoted and fostered by Shoeyotani,

1744
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 2: and the idea again was intended to provide the Dodgers

1745
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 2: additional cash flow PAYO flexibility and in the meantime Atani

1746
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 2: will continue to bring in the big dollars elsewhere from

1747
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 2: endorsements and off field venues. Look, Otani may make fifty

1748
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 2: million per year away from the Diamond, but the deferrals

1749
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 2: again also give the Dodgers the extra freedom to navigate. Again,

1750
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 2: I'm repeating myself, it's a very competitive balanced tax or

1751
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 2: luxury tax. For CBT purposes, the average value will be

1752
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 2: forty six million. Now, the forty six million and average

1753
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 2: annual value is still the highest in Major League history.

1754
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 2: That top the forty three point three million dollars average

1755
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 2: that Max Schurzer got when he got a three year

1756
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 2: deal with the Mets back in twenty twenty one. I

1757
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 2: think Mike Trout was up in that neighborhood as well.

1758
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 2: And again, to be clear, Baseball's Collective Bargaining Agreement makes

1759
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 2: it clear there is no limit on how much salary

1760
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 2: a player and a team can agree to. Defer people

1761
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 2: don't want to do this. The CBA also includes a

1762
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:07,759
Speaker 2: net present value schoculation for luxury tax purposes. And apparently

1763
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 2: that's how they estimated the value of Otani's contract on

1764
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 2: a season by season basis. That's how they calculated the

1765
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 2: forty six million dollars figure that will be used. So

1766
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 2: for the ten years that Otani, assuming he'll be there

1767
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 2: the full ten years, intends to play for the Dodgers,

1768
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 2: his deal could be thought of as being worth forty

1769
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 2: six million dollars on average put over the full twenty

1770
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 2: year lifespan of the deal, including the following ten years

1771
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 2: when the deferrals are paid out. That's when Otani is

1772
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 2: no longer under contract with the team. That's when he

1773
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 2: makes his total seven hundred million dollars. So simple, the

1774
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 2: payments two ten year periods. Otani makes two million a

1775
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 2: year from twenty twenty four to twenty thirty three, from

1776
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 2: sixty eight million a year from twenty thirty four to

1777
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 2: twenty forty three. Coming up Saturday night, I'm going to

1778
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 2: share some key dates on the Otani calendar. Every single

1779
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: one of his games will be televised from Japan. He

1780
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 2: is a spell in that country, and there's some key

1781
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 2: dates in the counter, including the fact not just when

1782
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 2: spring training starts, but the Dodgers will open up the

1783
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 2: first Major League game played in Seoul, South Korea. That'll

1784
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 2: be something coming up Chris prophets World of Soccer. But first,

1785
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 2: let's go back to a guy, Kevin Figures who mollywops

1786
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:23,719
Speaker 2: the updates?

1787
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,560
Speaker 6: All right, Well, it was the New York Knicks and

1788
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 6: Jalen Brunson Moley wapping the Phoenix Suns on Friday night,

1789
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 6: Bernie one thirty nine to one twenty two, a fifty

1790
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 6: point effort from Brunson, he had made all nine of

1791
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 6: his three point shot attempts to Spurs, picking up their

1792
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 6: first victory since November two. They beat the Lakers one

1793
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 6: twenty nine to one fifteen. San Antonio had lost eighteen

1794
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 6: consecutive games. Thirty eight points for Trey Young and a

1795
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,959
Speaker 6: one twenty five to one zero four Hawks victory in Toronto.

1796
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 6: You had victories for Houston, Boston, New Orleans, and Philadelphia,

1797
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 6: who defeated Detroit, who has lost twenty two games in

1798
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 6: a row. And NFL news Buffalo will be in Dallas

1799
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 6: on Sunday and will be without safety Micah Hyde and

1800
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 6: defensive end aj Eppanessa with stinger and rib injuries, respectively.

1801
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: Texas quarterbacks c J.

1802
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 6: Stroud doubtful to play against the Titans as he has

1803
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 6: yet to clear concussion protocol.

1804
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: He is listed as doubtful.

1805
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 6: The Chargers fired head coach Brandon Staley and general manager

1806
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 6: Tom te LESCo. And college basketball Friday night, Donovan Klingon

1807
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 6: scored twenty one points for fifth rank Yukon in a

1808
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 6: seventy six to sixty three victory over tenth ranked Gonzaga

1809
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 6: in Seattle.

1810
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 1: Back to Bernie Fredo.

1811
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, my man. By the way that

1812
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson does look good in Nick's uniform. All right,

1813
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 2: this time every week. A sport that never sleeps. And

1814
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 2: as part of his update, we will compare Otani's contract

1815
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 2: is something in the world of soccer, and so therefore

1816
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 2: it is time Chris Burffett's World of Soccer.

1817
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: The greatest schools, the thrilling finishes.

1818
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 5: The international drum, and it's all here in this report

1819
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 5: from the world of Soccer.

1820
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 7: Strange tales, Bernie, as we move into the winter time here,

1821
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 7: but soccer never really sleeps around the world. First bit

1822
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:16,839
Speaker 7: of news, take care of the United States and Mexico

1823
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 7: have submitted a joint bid to host the twenty twenty

1824
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 7: seven Women's World Cup, following in the pattern of the

1825
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 7: twenty twenty six Men's World Cup here, which is seeing

1826
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 7: the bids split between the United States, Canada, and Mexico,

1827
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 7: making it a true North American World Cup. It's a

1828
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 7: fascinating move and I think it's one that we might

1829
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 7: see more and more throughout the progressions of these bids

1830
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 7: of the World Cup. I think the United States has

1831
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 7: the power to host it by themselves, but having other

1832
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:51,600
Speaker 7: federations involved, including a place like Mexico City and some

1833
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 7: of the great other Mexican cities where Lega MX stadiums

1834
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 7: are located, can only help to improve the power of

1835
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 7: your bid when dealing with other hosts. Speaking of the

1836
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 7: United States, there was good news on the men's side

1837
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 7: as the draw came for the Copa America twenty twenty four. Now,

1838
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 7: Copa America, as we've explained for on this program, has

1839
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 7: been the pre eminent tournament, usually of South America nations

1840
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 7: in FIFA, which is important because only two regions in

1841
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 7: FIFA have won a World Cup, South America represented by

1842
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 7: their Federation of Commable and Europe with UEFA. Thus, in

1843
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 7: the two years in between the World Cups, attention has

1844
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 7: turned to Copa America and to UEFA's euro Championship. This year,

1845
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 7: the COPA has expanded. It now includes some of the

1846
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 7: top nations from CONCACAF, the North American region, which includes

1847
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 7: the United States, and so the United States was included

1848
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 7: in the Copa America draw. United States, of course, also

1849
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 7: being the host of this year's Copa America, which is

1850
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 7: fantastic for a lot of reasons. On Thursday, they found

1851
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 7: out who they will be pl playing as they were

1852
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 7: placed in Group C with Uruguay, Panama, and Bolivia. Mexico

1853
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 7: meanwhile got Ecuador, Venezuela and Jamaica in Group B.

1854
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: This is a bit fascinating right now.

1855
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 7: The United States sits about the same rank and just

1856
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 7: behind Uruguay in the FIFA Men's rankings. It is a

1857
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 7: fantastic showdown, but it's all It's going to ultimately be

1858
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 7: a very tough one and there are questions as to

1859
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 7: the US men's team really realistically win Group C at

1860
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 7: the twenty twenty four Copa America. The United States is

1861
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 7: stacked top to bottom, really, but Uruguay has always been

1862
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 7: a TA nation that is very hard to defeat, and

1863
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,560
Speaker 7: the United States is going to have to start with Bolivia.

1864
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 7: And if the US can't be Bolivia, then there seems

1865
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 7: to be some problems going on there now. Panama, the

1866
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 7: United States is familiar with coming from conky calf, But

1867
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 7: ultimately it's going to come down to the match against Uruguay,

1868
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 7: which is going to be one of the last ones

1869
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 7: in that group. But we haven't talked much about the

1870
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 7: Premier League in the past few weeks, and something odd

1871
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 7: has happened at the top of the table since we

1872
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 7: last looked. Manchester City has fallen to fourth, falling behind

1873
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 7: aston Villa this past weekend in a one nil game,

1874
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 7: and I am confused. I am very confused as to

1875
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 7: how one of the great clubs, how a team that

1876
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 7: won a historic trouble last year now finds itself coming

1877
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 7: into this weekend six points back behind Arsenal, with Arsenal

1878
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 7: and Liverpool being the ones fighting right now as we

1879
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 7: start to write the final chapters on the opening half

1880
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 7: of the Premier League. It's something that we don't usually see.

1881
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 7: Manchester City sitting in the back trying to come back

1882
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:56,879
Speaker 7: from it, looking sluggish, looking lost at times, getting defeated

1883
01:46:56,920 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 7: on set pieces. Their lost to Austin Villa comes after

1884
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 7: three straight draws in the Premier League. Now, some of

1885
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 7: this can be chalked up to injuries, and it's the

1886
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,759
Speaker 7: type of injuries that really matter. But I think Manchester

1887
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 7: City's problems can also be tracked back to one of

1888
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:18,639
Speaker 7: the oldest problems for many clubs out there, the midfield. Yes,

1889
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 7: once again a club has neglected some of their midfield,

1890
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 7: a lot of their signings here this past couple of

1891
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,640
Speaker 7: seasons have just not endeared them to replace pieces that

1892
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 7: they lost in their midfield and has left them with questions.

1893
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,879
Speaker 7: And those questions will continue here as Manchester City prepares

1894
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,680
Speaker 7: to take on Luttontown here on Sunday. Now, you might

1895
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 7: be thinking to yourself, Wow, Lutton Town, that seems like

1896
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 7: easy baking right there. That's a club with only nine

1897
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 7: points to their name. They sit in the relegation zone currently,

1898
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 7: they have only two wins. Sure, but Lutontown is a

1899
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 7: club with a lot of heart and fire behind them

1900
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 7: right now. With those wins come two straight out of

1901
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 7: the last three and then a narrow, agonizing defeat four

1902
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 7: to three to Arsenal at home. If on the chance

1903
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 7: that Luton Town can pull off the impossible, it would

1904
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 7: be something for the ages to see.

1905
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 1: Either way.

1906
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 7: Manchester City sitting at the back of the pack here,

1907
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 7: still in contention for Champions League qualification obviously, and of

1908
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 7: course playing in the knockout rounds of this season's Champions League,

1909
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 7: not exactly a sympathetic figure. Nevertheless, it's always shocking to

1910
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 7: see such a heavyweight lose its lead like this in

1911
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 7: the season. But we've also seen Manchester City turn this

1912
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 7: around mid season and Earling Holland their star young player

1913
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 7: needs to really settle in and I think he will

1914
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 7: do it, but right now he's having games in his

1915
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 7: own heads, spending too much time yelling at it official

1916
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 7: after a hot Spur draw when the referee wouldn't want

1917
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 7: to give him an advantage from his pass to Greenalish

1918
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 7: late in the game. But as problems go for Manchester City,

1919
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:02,919
Speaker 7: they still pale to the problems suffered by Manchester United,

1920
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:07,799
Speaker 7: their crosstown rivals, as they have fallen into the sixth spot,

1921
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 7: tied with Tottenham Hotsper coming into this weekend and have

1922
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 7: been struggling to really get their star Marcus Rashford, who

1923
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 7: is no longer starting for the team but has said

1924
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 7: coming off the bench, and there seems to be some

1925
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 7: trouble brewing with him and manager Eric ten Hogg. I'm

1926
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 7: not sure why Marcus Rasher would ever be taken out

1927
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 7: of the starting lineup when the greats and really the

1928
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,759
Speaker 7: face of Manchester United. And this isn't even the first

1929
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 7: time that Eric ten Hogg is really beefing with a

1930
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 7: player right now. We also have the Jaden Sancho question

1931
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 7: that still remains to be seen if ten Hog is

1932
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 7: even going to let him have any kind of comeback

1933
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 7: with this squad. But nevertheless, this seems to be the

1934
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 7: fate of Manchester United right now, a club mired always

1935
01:49:56,640 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 7: and always in controversy and nonsense. That seems to be

1936
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 7: one of the staples of Manchester United. The other happens

1937
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 7: to be an eternally ongoing question about whether the Glazers

1938
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 7: will sell and for how much. Twenty five percent of

1939
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 7: the club was now bought by English billionaire Jim Ratcliffe,

1940
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 7: but the absolutely unpopular in England Glazer families remains in

1941
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 7: full control of the club at this time. We have

1942
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 7: many more stories to go across Europe and across the

1943
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 7: world of soccer.

1944
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: Will bring them to you next week. Here.

1945
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,759
Speaker 2: We'll see you soon, Bernie, all right, I can just dumb, Chris.

1946
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 2: And of course when you hear names like here at

1947
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 2: ten Hog and early Holland use your names that have

1948
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 2: been invoked. Is when we started this feature about eighteen

1949
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 2: months ago, heading into the Men's World Cup, which was

1950
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 2: taking place a year ago now and then of course,

1951
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 2: the Women's World Cup last summer. We're just months away

1952
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 2: now from the twenty twenty four Olympics Summer Olympics in France,

1953
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 2: so there'll be plenty more repartage and it will certainly

1954
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 2: pick up two a crescendo. Well, none of the three

1955
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:05,680
Speaker 2: Saturday NFL games will be played in exotic locations. Well

1956
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 2: maybe Detroit's exotic. But if you like the global presence

1957
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 2: that the NFL is advancing towards, you're gonna like this

1958
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 2: report coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to you

1959
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 2: live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tirack dot

1960
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Speaker 2: Com studios. Keep it locked right here, listening to the

1961
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're

1962
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 2: wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show. We are

1963
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 2: coming to you live from the Las Vegas Tirack dot

1964
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: Com studios here Fox Sports Radio. And before I go

1965
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 2: any further, I want to thank my broadcast team back

1966
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. They've been with me since eleven pm

1967
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 2: Pacific time on Friday night. Of course, Kevin Figures, Molly

1968
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 2: wopping all the updates, good input on Draymond Green Shay

1969
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 2: Mogannguard on standing job as always, and Shay will have

1970
01:51:55,600 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 2: the podcast up shortly in case you missed anything. You

1971
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 2: want to hear that first half hour with Steve Hartman.

1972
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 2: We went deep into the Chargers situation and of course

1973
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 2: the impending coaching hire. And you want to hear my

1974
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 2: comments as I respond to Cam Newton, it's not a

1975
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:21,440
Speaker 2: swear word to be a game manager or a system quarterback.

1976
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:27,600
Speaker 2: I explain why it's silliness. Okay, Before I dive into

1977
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 2: how the NFL will expand their global presence to even

1978
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 2: greater stretch, I have a tweet from a gentleman who

1979
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 2: listens to the show. Brian Lacary says, great show is

1980
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 2: always burning, long shot, but wondering if you could wish

1981
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 2: my wife. I'll come back to that in a second.

1982
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 2: I guess she's going to have a surprise dinner. Well

1983
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 2: it may not be a surprised now she's listening, but

1984
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 2: thanks for the compliment. Best overnight, chewing the business. A

1985
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 2: shout out to his wife, Wrenn Lacari. She'll be celebrating

1986
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,560
Speaker 2: her fortieth birthday. So from the Bernie Frattles Show of

1987
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and our entire crew. Shout out to

1988
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 2: Ren Lacari celebrating you are your fortieth birthday and have

1989
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 2: a good time, and Brian appreciates you. Listening to the

1990
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:20,480
Speaker 2: show all right now. I happen to love the international

1991
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 2: games that the NFL plays. They played five games this

1992
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:26,720
Speaker 2: last fall, three in London, two and Frankfurt, and now

1993
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:30,600
Speaker 2: they're exploring the possibility of playing future games in Madrid

1994
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:34,600
Speaker 2: and Sal Paula, Brazil, and I think they're looking at

1995
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 2: France and oh, by the way, they will eventually return

1996
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 2: to Mexico City. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has made multiple

1997
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 2: comments about expanding in Europe, and he even hinted at

1998
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 2: playing a Super Bowl in London. Don't do that, that's stupid.

1999
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 2: And also, don't even think about putting an NFL franchise

2000
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 2: anywhere other than American soil. Maybe Canada, maybe, but not

2001
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:06,600
Speaker 2: forget London. No, don't stupid. There are many logistical inconsistencies

2002
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 2: and competitive disadvantages that would create. But I would like

2003
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 2: to see Maybe I'm a slappy, I would like to

2004
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 2: see an international game every week. You could create a

2005
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 2: second bye week, you extend the NFL season, and every

2006
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 2: one of the thirty two teams in the National Football

2007
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 2: League should have to play a game overseas every year.

2008
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 2: You want to really grow this brand. People love these,

2009
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 2: they love these, They stay after the game, they sing

2010
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 2: Neil Diamond songs. The years I covered the Lions, they

2011
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 2: wonderful junkets for the fans. But you gotta crawl before

2012
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 2: you walk and walk before you run. So this past

2013
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 2: year the NFL, obviously they made a strong push. They

2014
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 2: did expand their international footprint. And this coming week Wednesday

2015
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 2: is pivotal because the team owners are convening. They're gonna

2016
01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 2: meet Irving, Texas on Tuesday and Wednesday for a special

2017
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 2: league meeting. What are they gonna do well? According to

2018
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 2: Front Office Sports, the agenda includes a vote that I

2019
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 2: expect them to take on Wednesday that will require all

2020
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 2: thirty two clubs to play at least one designated home

2021
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 2: game outside the United States every four years. Right now,

2022
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 2: teams are required to do so, but only once every

2023
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 2: eight years. I say do it every year and create

2024
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 2: a second bye week. It'll work. It'll work. Now the

2025
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 2: NFL again, they as I just said, they played five

2026
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 2: international games as pass Fall three in London to win

2027
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 2: Frankfurt I think in the future you're gonna see Madrid

2028
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 2: Spain sell Paul of Brazil back to Mexico City, maybe

2029
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 2: even Paris. Now, Peter King has already basically said this

2030
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 2: new international measure that they're gonna vote on will be

2031
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 2: easily approved, and that would allow the NFL to start

2032
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 2: playing the nine Games abroad as soon as twenty twenty five,

2033
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 2: and I get it. Currently, the games in Europe are

2034
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 2: typically broadcast at nine thirty am Eastern Time, mostly on

2035
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 2: the NFL network six thirty am here on the Left

2036
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 2: Coast where I live Pacific time zone in Las Vegas.

2037
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 2: And when you create a larger slate of games, you

2038
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 2: could start to sell these broadcasts in their own package,

2039
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 2: again more revenue. Roger Goodello has stated he wants the

2040
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 2: NFL to be a twenty five billion dollar league, and

2041
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 2: they're on their way there. This will help him do that.

2042
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 2: So I expect this to pass. I expect you to

2043
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 2: see more international games. Do me a favor, though, don't

2044
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 2: do don't ever put a franchise abroad. That is the

2045
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 2: dumbest thing I've heard since Pineapple on pizza. And if

2046
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 2: you put pineapple on pizza, God bless you. Why would

2047
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 2: you do that? But that's your business. What I also

2048
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 2: don't want to see and this has else have been

2049
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 2: talked about, or maybe you know, Roger Goodell's just joking

2050
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 2: around because he's such a jokester. The biggest game in

2051
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 2: America and football, they call it the Super Bowl, could

2052
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 2: also possibly be held on foreign soil. The NFL will

2053
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 2: reportedly discussed the idea of playing a Super Bowl in London.

2054
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 2: I don't want you to do that. Fashion then you

2055
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 2: can say bangers and mash, scotch eggs and what else

2056
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: they eat over there, fish and chips, the English breakfast

2057
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 2: beans on toast. No, don't do it, don't please stop.

2058
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 2: I know it's not gonna happen anytime soon. They're saying

2059
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 2: it's a possibility. Okay, that means nothing but the lead.

2060
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 2: We know they've expanded, as I just mentioned. But to

2061
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 2: put the Super Bowl in London would create so many

2062
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 2: new logistical questions, most notably the time difference. What time

2063
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna play the dam game. You can't play it

2064
01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 2: at nine thirty in the morning on the East Coast,

2065
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 2: which would be two thirty in the afternoon in London,

2066
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 2: So what time are you gonna do. Kick the game

2067
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 2: off at the super Bowl normally starts in five thirty

2068
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 2: Eastern time, so what are you gonna do? Play the

2069
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 2: game at midnight in London. Fortunately, the next three Super

2070
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 2: Bowl sites are already confirmed. You'll be here at the

2071
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 2: Legion Stadium in Vegas coming up in February. It'll be

2072
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 2: at Caesar's Superdome in February twenty twenty five, and then

2073
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 2: of course Levi Stadium in Santa Clara in February twenty

2074
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 2: twenty six, which means this soup the soon as it

2075
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 2: could possibly happen, would be in London Bowl London super

2076
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 2: Bowl in February twenty twenty seven. Don't do it. Dumbest

2077
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 2: thing I've ever heard since Pineapple on pizza. I don't

2078
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 2: mean to insult anybody that likes pineapple on pizza, but

2079
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 2: you take pineapple, which tastes good, and put it with

2080
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 2: a pizza. You take two good tastes, put them together

2081
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 2: and screws everything up. It's like catch about a hot dog.

2082
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 2: That's a story for a different day. Please don't do that.

2083
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 2: Please don't hold a Super Bowl in London, and please

2084
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 2: don't make an NFL team franchise have to live in

2085
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 2: London or anywhere else outside of the US. It's gonna

2086
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 2: do it for the Bernie Frider Show. See US Saturday

2087
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: night at eleven. Keep it locked up. Next the Fellas,