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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me

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Speaker 1: advice on many occasions in indication didn't notice, I'm not broke.

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Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and

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Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, It's

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Speaker 1: what he likes to share. Now it's time to hear

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Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Here we come.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to my show, money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rashaan McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of

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Speaker 1: your paycheck. Mine has inspired people to develop a plan

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Speaker 1: to reach their dreams. It's time to stop reading other

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Speaker 1: people's success stories to start writing your own. You can

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Speaker 1: only exceed the expectations by believing in yourself. People always

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Speaker 1: talking about their purpose or gifts. You read about it

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Speaker 1: all the time in social media. If you have a gift,

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Speaker 1: leave with your gifts and don't let your friends, family,

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Speaker 1: or co workers stop you. You from planning, living your dreams.

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Speaker 1: My guests is an old friend in the business. Uh,

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Speaker 1: somebody I'm very proud of. John Murray, executive producer of

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Speaker 1: the of the new hit nationally syndicated Sherry. That's Day

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Speaker 1: Tap Talk, hosted by the one and only Sherry Shepherd

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Speaker 1: and recognizable face. He has spent a majority of his

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Speaker 1: career as a TV host, contributor, media personality, and as

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Speaker 1: a journalist. Prior to joining Sherry, he was an executive

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Speaker 1: producer Very Popular Series or TV one, where he produced

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. I'm only going to the

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Speaker 1: littlest credits in this particular opening, but we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about a whole lot of credits once we start talking.

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Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversations, masterclass, John Murray.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, sir? I'm doing good. Rashaw. Well,

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Speaker 1: I like your things that you got set up there too. Man, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. You know, uh, all these people

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Speaker 1: have been on my show. I have not just snatched

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Speaker 1: you know you know Sherry's up there because you know

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Speaker 1: I have my little tow y'all build down. I'm not Sherry.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not Sharry, but I would tell you

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Speaker 1: some man, let's let's let's let's let's take the elephant

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Speaker 1: elephant don't need to be in there taking up all

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Speaker 1: this good spirit in here. Brother, I am proud of you.

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Speaker 1: This interview is about you, but you know how I

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Speaker 1: feel about Sherry. I personally went up there man to

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Speaker 1: let's talk about your feelings and where you at right now,

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Speaker 1: especially when the ratings came out announcing the success of

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Speaker 1: the series so far, we're gonna continue to climb. When

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Speaker 1: I say serious, I'm talking about the daytime talk called Sherry,

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Speaker 1: hosted by Sherry Shephard. Absolutely Rishon, let me first, and

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Speaker 1: I'm on say, we were so excited to have you

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Speaker 1: You've had great success in this very genre with multiple

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Speaker 1: really was validating for us, man, and and to not

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Speaker 1: only get your feedback and to hear that you were

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Speaker 1: enjoying yourself watching you, like there were times where I

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Speaker 1: have a good time, which is our mission for everybody

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Speaker 1: people like me, Rashan, it takes a lot to make

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Speaker 1: you laugh out laugh, So to see you laugh out loud,

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Speaker 1: I knew we were achieving our goal. Well you know

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Speaker 1: You know, we are few and far between. Um, people

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Speaker 1: want to want to hear about that, They want to

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Speaker 1: learn about that, and um, you know, and I'm open

431
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Speaker 1: to sharing and encouraging and inspiring. So it's great to

432
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Speaker 1: be able to move back in some of the same

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Speaker 1: space as I've already had success in with this, with

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Speaker 1: this new victory under my belt, you know, I'm excited

435
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Speaker 1: to go to Chicago and do this, uh, the summit

436
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Speaker 1: with Lewis Carr, because the truth of the matter is,

437
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Speaker 1: they're not a lot of spaces where uh safe places

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Speaker 1: where black men can find a refuge in community with

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Speaker 1: each other. Like if you didn't pledge one of the

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Speaker 1: HBCU Greek Letter fraternities, Um, you don't necessarily unless you

441
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Speaker 1: grew up in a house full of brothers. There are

442
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Speaker 1: always places that once you reach a certain level of

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Speaker 1: success or you're thriving in a particular area professionally, that

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Speaker 1: that you can find safety and refuge with each other,

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Speaker 1: you know. And so I'm grateful to be going to

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Speaker 1: a place that it was a summit built just around

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Speaker 1: this men finding black men finding success in their respective

448
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Speaker 1: genres coming together for an informative, empowering and informational two

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Speaker 1: day summit. I mean, I'm grateful that both Lewis and

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Speaker 1: Nicole Pittman, who works with him on it. I thought

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Speaker 1: enough of me to invite me long before the show premiered,

452
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Speaker 1: to come in and play a part in this. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm in a place, uh Shaun, and you know

454
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Speaker 1: this journey because you've done it yourself. That not only

455
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Speaker 1: am I helping to shape great content for the masses

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Speaker 1: to have, but one of the things that most excites

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Speaker 1: me is that there are some other people who have

458
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Speaker 1: been working in this business, great talent who've been on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines, experts in various fields, underdog un some talent

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Speaker 1: that we've been able to put in the game, that

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Speaker 1: we've been able to give opportunity to, that we've been

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Speaker 1: able to give a platform to shine. And that's one

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Speaker 1: of the things that means more than me than anything,

464
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Speaker 1: taking a chance on people who can maximize this opportunity

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Speaker 1: and use it to do some other great things. You know,

466
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Speaker 1: Cherry always talks about chef Melbourne Wilson, who if you've

467
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Speaker 1: ever come to New York City, everybody goes up to

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Speaker 1: Melbourne and Harlem um. But Melbourne has become a dynamic

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Speaker 1: TV chef. She's had such great success her philanthropic work.

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Speaker 1: But we had her join us a few times when

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Speaker 1: Sherry was guest hosting for Wendy Williams, and not that

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Speaker 1: that opportunity contributed to her next blessing, but shortly thereafter

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Speaker 1: she got called in two guest hosts with Ryan Seacrest

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Speaker 1: on Live with Kelly and Ryan, which is the number

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Speaker 1: one show and all of the daytime nobody else does,

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Speaker 1: I mean outside of the View, but they are the

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Speaker 1: number one show in syndication, which the view as a

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Speaker 1: network TV show. But for Melbour as a black woman

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Speaker 1: to be able to go and have that opportunity after

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Speaker 1: coming and and and helping cooking up a little bit

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Speaker 1: of magic with us, that's what we wanna do, man,

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Speaker 1: We wanna we wanna help shine a light on people

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Speaker 1: who need brighter lights shine on them. For sure. I've

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Speaker 1: always enjoyed your personnel. I've always enjoyed it, your mind.

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Speaker 1: You're smart, very very smart, very informed, and never and

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Speaker 1: your personnel is always engaging. I never felt like you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people are can feeled. They cover

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Speaker 1: our men who are successful and feel challenged or feel insecure.

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Speaker 1: You never shined that light of like, in other words,

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Speaker 1: you got your place in the room. You're cool with it.

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Speaker 1: Just let me do my thing. If it expands a

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Speaker 1: little bit, don't get nervous. I'm just doing my thing

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Speaker 1: that it's called competition. It's called competition. But did you

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Speaker 1: come through this whole world? I've seen your journey for

495
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Speaker 1: a long time. If you could point out one person

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Speaker 1: that may have been instrumental in your entertainment arc, who

497
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Speaker 1: would that be? Oh, you know, there's some there's actually

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Speaker 1: some really good people that have helped me a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know, I talked about meeting my mentor the living

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Speaker 1: legend media personality, taying your heart. But I often celebrate

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Speaker 1: how when I was a college kid, who so Sean,

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Speaker 1: I still look like a young man. But I'm in

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Speaker 1: my forties, so like I'm kind of in that in

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Speaker 1: between face, So like, yes, I'm in. I'm in the

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Speaker 1: streets and social media and you know, I'm popping. I'm

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Speaker 1: learning the legal all the twenties something. Your producers here

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Speaker 1: keeping me hip and stuff. I may dive my hair

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Speaker 1: every few weeks to make sure you grade come in

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Speaker 1: that type of day. But but I'm also of the

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Speaker 1: generation that, like I remember life before social media was

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Speaker 1: our everything, and before before al Gore's Internet was our everything,

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Speaker 1: and so I remember what it was like to have

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Speaker 1: to go to a convention and shake hands and take

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Speaker 1: a deep breath before you had to network and introduce

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Speaker 1: yourself to somebody. So I remember getting the number to

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Speaker 1: the E network UH from a phone book. I called

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Speaker 1: over to the network while I was a student at

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Speaker 1: Norfolk State University and I left a voicemail message for

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Speaker 1: a producer that was producing the show that Tanya Heart

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Speaker 1: was doing on E at the time. And she called

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Speaker 1: this young college student back and was like, the producer

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Speaker 1: called me and gave me your number, and I just

523
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Speaker 1: had to call and see who this ambitious young man

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Speaker 1: was that reached out to me and said he was

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Speaker 1: really inspired by my career. And Tanya sat on the

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Speaker 1: phone with a perfect stranger and a dorm run down

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Speaker 1: in North Virginia and talked to me for ninety minutes,

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Speaker 1: and at the end of that call, she said to me,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet you in person. And if

530
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Speaker 1: forever there's an opportunity where you're applying for a job,

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Speaker 1: just put my company on your resume and say you're

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Speaker 1: one of my East Coast contributors. And just having somebody

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Speaker 1: take a chance on me like that unseen really helped,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then, Uh, there's a

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Speaker 1: personality on Serious XM's Heart and Soul. Her name is

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Speaker 1: Michelle Wright. I was an intern at the radio station

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. And Michelle saw this ambitious, hungry

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Speaker 1: intern and took me under her wing and had me

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Speaker 1: start to help produce content for her midday show. And

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Speaker 1: when I went back to college that fall, Michelle started

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Speaker 1: paying me out of her pocket and sending me a

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Speaker 1: stipend to help create this content for her for her

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Speaker 1: midday show. So she was technically my first boss in

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Speaker 1: the business because she's the first person that ever paid

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Speaker 1: me to do work in the entertainment industry. So both

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Speaker 1: of those women are two women that have been very

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Speaker 1: pivotal and very key in my success, and they've been

548
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Speaker 1: so many other great people. I mean, listen, Rochelle, there

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Speaker 1: were times when I was being I was being tested

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Speaker 1: for a game show and I called you and you

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Speaker 1: really walked me through the nuances and the house and

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Speaker 1: the how nots and you know what to do and

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Speaker 1: what not to do. Is while I was on that journey,

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Speaker 1: and then you were talking earlier about like owning my space,

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Speaker 1: and and and not feeling competitive with other people. And

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Speaker 1: I have to say, my big brother, Roller Martin said

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Speaker 1: something to me years ago that always stuck with me.

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Speaker 1: He was like cat nobody out rolling Roller Martin, and

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Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I'm gonna beat me, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat me unapologetically. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: never get intimidated by any of my peers is I

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Speaker 1: know when I show up, whether it's John the personality,

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Speaker 1: you know, the TV talent, the host, or whether it's

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Speaker 1: John the producer, John the brains, John the strategist, John

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Speaker 1: the visionary, the creative, I know that I bring my

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Speaker 1: best self to all of those situations. And if for

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Speaker 1: some reason people like what you do different than I do,

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Speaker 1: the that's your blessing, that's not mine. So I've never

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Speaker 1: been nervous or intimidated by it by being embody else's

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Speaker 1: spaces because you came out John John Murray, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so that was one of the gifts that Roland

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Speaker 1: Martin got me, and it really helped shape my approcedes

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Speaker 1: because we can't slip into accidental compare editiveness. We can't

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Speaker 1: slip into these toxic behaviors of wanting or emulating or

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Speaker 1: desiring what we see other people have. But the other

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Speaker 1: thing that I've learned through trial and there is prison.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the story behind your glory, and so

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00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: it looks good on the outside, but I might not

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Speaker 1: want to go through the sleepless nights and the crying

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Speaker 1: morments and and the bankruptcies are whatever other things you

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Speaker 1: had to go through to become excellence that you are.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I may not want to go through all that.

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Speaker 1: So finding my own path and my own journey is

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Speaker 1: the best path for me because the struggles and the

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Speaker 1: obstacles that I've had to face to get to this point,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to share those with anybody else, And

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00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to share yours with me, you know.

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Speaker 1: I tell you you can't out John John Merrin. You

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Speaker 1: need to put that on the on the wall because

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Speaker 1: that that fits you. You can't. That's beautiful. And I

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Speaker 1: know Rolling Mart so I know he's he is the truth.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when he left the TV one when

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Speaker 1: you show got cancer and he talked to me, reached

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do? I said, won't you just start

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Speaker 1: doing your show on YouTube? He said, how? I said,

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Speaker 1: what you just take control of your narrative. Sometimes all

597
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Speaker 1: you gotta do is self tells somebody something and they

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Speaker 1: hear it and guess what. He's been controlling this narrative.

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Speaker 1: And the only person can cancel rolling is rolling. That's

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Speaker 1: the beauty of him living his life now, highly successful,

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Speaker 1: thousands of subscribers, generating revenue, revenue for him personally, all

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Speaker 1: he has to do is produce content. But my friend,

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Speaker 1: and I call you my friend because coming up in

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Speaker 1: New York and seeing you and Sherry, you executive beducing

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Speaker 1: you all from your all phones aside talking to her

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Speaker 1: on I love y'all, man, I love you as a

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Speaker 1: as a young man who is doing something very inspirational

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Speaker 1: in his business. Is your time? Is your time? And

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Speaker 1: social media? Continue to speak, continue to carry that that trophy,

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Speaker 1: that trophy of honesty, that trophy of being able to

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Speaker 1: get it done because you can't. John, John Merry, thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming to money making conversation on my way out.

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Speaker 1: Though if you really loved me, you send me one

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Speaker 1: of those cakes you'd be baking now. I'm tired of

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00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: seeing this good food and not tasting any ovens. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know when I was up there, John, You said, Rohane,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you on the show a cook. If

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Speaker 1: I got to book you to eat your cake, that

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Speaker 1: didn't translate. Well, if I got to book you to

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Speaker 1: eat some of your good food, then we're gonna that's

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna make. Absolutely But brother, I love your brother.

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Speaker 1: We talked soon to tell Sherry High. Okay, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: come to make Conversation Masterclasses John. Because you get out John,

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Speaker 1: John Ryder of Sherry, We'll be right back with more

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You are now

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Speaker 1: tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with

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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Masterclass with your daily minute of Inspiration. Recently I spoke

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Speaker 1: with the CEO of Diverse Media and the author of

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Speaker 1: On Impact, Life Leadership and Betting on Yourself Being EP.

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Speaker 1: He explains how I dinner find your strategy and goals

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00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: can help you on your path to success. Entering into

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Speaker 1: the music business, I realized there were no salt and

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Speaker 1: pepper hair black men walking in the buildings. That's when

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Speaker 1: I decided on two plan eights My first plan A

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Speaker 1: was this corporate job which actually paid exponentially, but knowing

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Speaker 1: that this would not be my retirement because there was

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Speaker 1: no one in their mid fifties late sixties. So that's

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Speaker 1: when I invested in real estate. So every bonus I

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Speaker 1: made went to purchasing a piece of property. That's what

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Speaker 1: I said was going to be important for me being

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Speaker 1: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My guest is Dr Cole Robert Jones, veteran of the industry,

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Speaker 1: more more important, a veteran of the entertainment industry. The

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Speaker 1: co working their talent management and casting before shifting her

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Speaker 1: talents to help others bank roll their brilliance. That's why

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Speaker 1: the Code. The Code now works with entrepreneurs to create

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Speaker 1: multiple strenge of income, which we love hearing about on

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Speaker 1: to build an empire from their own expertise and especially

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Speaker 1: their brilliance. Addiently, she provides training and development to corporations

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Speaker 1: to raise employee engagement and retention. The military need to

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Speaker 1: Conversations Master Class and one and only Dr Nicole Roberts Jones.

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Speaker 1: Yea excited to be here. Thank you for having me. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for taking the time to

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Speaker 1: come on my show again. Um, because I I kind

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Speaker 1: of jokingly said that about you know when you said

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Speaker 1: that corporations, you know, raising employment engagement, employee engagement and retention,

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Speaker 1: and the military has the problem. Have you positioned yourself

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Speaker 1: they be talked to the military or has the military

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Speaker 1: approached you because that's all said. They know they need

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Speaker 1: especially creating recruitment, engagement and then also retention because uh

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Speaker 1: wwise to camp. You know, the military recruitment has always

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Speaker 1: receiving another lot of negative backlash. They're not meeting there,

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Speaker 1: the number of which will become dangerous here pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Talk to So all right, so what's funny is I

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Speaker 1: have government as my number one goal for three so

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Speaker 1: you just speaking the prophecying over there. So yes, I

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Speaker 1: have as my goal to because here's one thing I know,

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Speaker 1: ra Sean is no matter what you do, your purpose

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Speaker 1: is of one thing you never get fired from. So

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Speaker 1: you gotta a line that with your work, not only

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Speaker 1: will you love it, but you're overperformed everybody else. So yes,

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Speaker 1: definitely I'm looking into more government because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: that's the world, and I'm really talking about that military side,

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Speaker 1: you know, the army, the neighbor, all of all those

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Speaker 1: little closely always said because of the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like the police. You complain about the

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Speaker 1: police team just dibnine one one, okay, you complain about

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Speaker 1: the army, you said, who's protecting our borders? Okay? So

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Speaker 1: that means that there are people out there that we

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Speaker 1: need to be able to position to do those things.

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Speaker 1: And let's go back to a little bit because I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that you do now because you've always

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Speaker 1: been a person that has you know, sought out talent,

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Speaker 1: had an eye for talent in your casting days, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about that because being a person that we didn't

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Speaker 1: for auditions, who mailed his head chat in trying to

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Speaker 1: get cast, that was always an annoying part of my life.

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Speaker 1: What were you looking for in that genre when you

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Speaker 1: was talking when you was when you was doing talent

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Speaker 1: management and also casting. You know It's interesting, is I've

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Speaker 1: always been since I was four or five years old,

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Speaker 1: someone that could see people's natural talent. And my friends

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Speaker 1: called it bossy back then, and I would like make

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Speaker 1: suggestions of what you should do. So when I worked

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Speaker 1: in TV and film, the thing that was easy for

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Speaker 1: me is when you came in for an audition, I

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Speaker 1: could see you, so I can look past where you

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Speaker 1: I could see you and how you could fit into

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Speaker 1: the script. Acting is you know, you have to be

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Speaker 1: that I had to be able to see you inside

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Speaker 1: of that role. So I think that was my gift,

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Speaker 1: and that's really what I do when entrepreneurs now is

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Speaker 1: being able to see or even corporate executives being able

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Speaker 1: to see who you be I have that aligns with

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Speaker 1: the work that you should do because sometimes people going

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Speaker 1: M and so and so that's important when sometimes in

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Speaker 1: jobs that you do. You might be doing this job,

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Speaker 1: but they may not be your strength. How do you

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Speaker 1: break down the people the reality of what they gift

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Speaker 1: really is versus what they want to do? Hm? Hm,

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Speaker 1: that's so good. So I think many of us grow

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Speaker 1: up in culture where we make lists, right, I want

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Speaker 1: two point five kids, I want to have this house.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna work in this career. But we don't stop

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Speaker 1: long enough to tap into our soul and we really

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Speaker 1: understand who we be at our core. So it's really

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Speaker 1: looking beyond what the world says, what perception says, and

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Speaker 1: the list that we make to really get to know

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Speaker 1: yourself on a deeper level. I think when I'm meets

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Speaker 1: many people, it's not even that your original list isn't

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Speaker 1: an alignment with what you're great at. It maybe that

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Speaker 1: you just have outgrown that place like that, and so

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Speaker 1: it's really going to that next level. You know. Oftentimes

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Speaker 1: I say God doesn't rumble you up because he's like,

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Speaker 1: have not yet come And it's in that place that

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Speaker 1: we've got to do the work to move to your

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Speaker 1: next you know, what I always talk about on this

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Speaker 1: show A lot of people. You know, it's an entrepreneur show,

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Speaker 1: really is a show about life because you know I

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Speaker 1: talk about the relationships. That's what this show is about.

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Speaker 1: Because if you don't have poor community, you have poor

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Speaker 1: communication and relationship. You don't have a relationship. Same thing

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Speaker 1: that's your job, same thing as a business, don't same

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Speaker 1: thing as an entrepreneur. So do you take that global

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Speaker 1: perspective when you're talking to you to clients or talking

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Speaker 1: to people trying to motivate them, and realize that the

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Speaker 1: So really, to be honest with you, it's not even

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Speaker 1: about you. So when you think about what you do

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Speaker 1: for a living, it's about listen, profit where profit means gain.

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Speaker 1: So ultimately the goal is this, how are you gaining

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Speaker 1: for that person you If you're read about gaining for

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Speaker 1: your pocketbook, you're always gonna behind. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: don't make money, because we have money making conversations, but

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Speaker 1: if you can up level that and I understand that

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Speaker 1: when you bless somebody with the thing that you do,

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Speaker 1: their gaining and ultimately, when you do the thing that

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Speaker 1: you were born to do, your gaining for God because

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Speaker 1: what you're doing is moving in agenda forward as you

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Speaker 1: bless the people that need you. So it's bigger than

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Speaker 1: just a check. It's about what impact are you making

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Speaker 1: with the thing that you do. So I'm speaking to

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Speaker 1: Dr Dr Nicole and Robert Jones, and it's about when

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Speaker 1: I bring on the show. She has a lot of

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Speaker 1: natural instincts, and so we all have natural instincts, but

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Speaker 1: it's how you allow them to manifest themselves to your dreams,

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Speaker 1: you know, and when you start talking about multiple streams

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Speaker 1: of income, and that's I read that out in her credit.

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Speaker 1: You know, she always emphasized that can you explain to

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Speaker 1: people what exactly that is this in case they don't know. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur, if you're only working with your clients

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Speaker 1: and you have to be present, you already capping off

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Speaker 1: two things. Obviously, you know, I'm gonna say how much

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Speaker 1: money you make, but it's also how much transformation that

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Speaker 1: you're able to impact in this world. So when you

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Speaker 1: think about all the ways you can take your DNA,

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Speaker 1: your distinct natural ability and package it into multiple ways

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Speaker 1: you can serve people most of them, some of them,

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Speaker 1: I would say most, but some of them should be

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Speaker 1: what I call making money while you sleep. So right now,

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Speaker 1: somebody's going through one of my programs and I'm not there.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with you. You know. I've had clients in

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Speaker 1: Singapore and rub and listen Singapore a usually when I'm

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Speaker 1: sleep there awake, and vice versa. That means that they

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Speaker 1: were going through a program or they were going through

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Speaker 1: one of my programs online and I wasn't present. So

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Speaker 1: when you look at all the ways that I think,

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Speaker 1: if I give you a concrete example, um, a lawyer

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Speaker 1: that I work with before, and most lawyers think and

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Speaker 1: this is replies to everybody that you know they have

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Speaker 1: to be present and or lawyer's like why can't give

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Speaker 1: legal advice? But there are a whole lot of things

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Speaker 1: that you know because you would do law school that

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Speaker 1: the typical person doesn't know. So the lawyer that I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking of in general or specifically, whether I should say,

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Speaker 1: is a family practice lawyer. And when I said to her,

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Speaker 1: what do people come to you for the most, and

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Speaker 1: she said divorce? I said, how many people do you

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Speaker 1: turn away because they can't afford you abillable hours? She said,

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Speaker 1: oh a lot. If you walk them through how to

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Speaker 1: fill out their own paperwork online. At least they would

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Speaker 1: get something. It's better than nothing. And then you also

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Speaker 1: get something in return. It's called money in your revenue

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Speaker 1: in your business. So looking at all the ways that

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Speaker 1: you're leaving transformation behind because you're only looking one dimensionally

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Speaker 1: at your gift. You know, I think that I call

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Speaker 1: the mailbox money. You know you open the mailbox, lord chick,

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Speaker 1: that's mail box money. That some people used terminology you

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Speaker 1: know money, But are you sleep which is another terminology.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is that if you are physically tied

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Speaker 1: to the money that you make, that means that you

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Speaker 1: are physically tied to that, which means that you can't

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Speaker 1: get sick, which means that you have to worry about

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Speaker 1: days off, which means you have to worry about vacation,

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Speaker 1: which you have to worry and not saying that mailbox

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Speaker 1: money prevents that from happening. But guess what if you

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Speaker 1: got another job and you get mailbox money, and you

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Speaker 1: got another job and you making money while you sleep.

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Speaker 1: That determines the level of conversation. What was saying multiple

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Speaker 1: streams of income? Yeah, I never give you another example

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Speaker 1: of you don't mind because some people think this doesn't

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Speaker 1: apply to them. I had a woman who was a gymnast.

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Speaker 1: They used to train kids. Now when I met her,

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Speaker 1: she was in the authorities, and I said to her,

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Speaker 1: how much more are you gonna be able to flip?

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it all the way real, so in a minute,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna even getting the floor flip. How do

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Speaker 1: you gonna make money? She was silent. I said, so

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Speaker 1: what you need to realize now is how do you

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Speaker 1: shift it now before it's too late. And what she

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Speaker 1: said to me was because, of course, I suggested that

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Speaker 1: you hire other people teach some of your methodology, and

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Speaker 1: you can have other people teaching it. She said, well,

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Speaker 1: if somebody might steal it, I said, girl, do you

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Speaker 1: know what the lawyer is Number one? Number two? Why

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Speaker 1: don't you buy the gym that you're doing this stuff

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Speaker 1: in so that you can use it more than just

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Speaker 1: your classes. You can rent it out, rint off for

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Speaker 1: parties and so. So it's really thinking outside of the

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Speaker 1: box to all the other revenue opportunities that are available

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Speaker 1: to you instead of just again, think about it in

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Speaker 1: one way. Now, you're so funny just changing with Dr

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Speaker 1: col Robert jon You know if you gotta watch her

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Speaker 1: listening to her as cool. You gotta watch her. She

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Speaker 1: is so expressive. She's one of the people where I

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Speaker 1: wish I had known that in college she would have

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Speaker 1: been a who because she's really you can just come out.

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Speaker 1: You see the words come out of them out you

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Speaker 1: see him. You know you see him, and they like,

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Speaker 1: they like getting you like. She has something to say.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I love talking about which means that

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Speaker 1: that's why she's so successful, because in fact, she's very expressive.

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Speaker 1: But if there's a conversation that allows you to believe

856
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Speaker 1: that that that can be part of your DNA. Now,

857
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: when we're talking about people who are afraid to create

858
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Speaker 1: change in their life, create change in their relationships, I

859
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: always keep going back to relationship because a lot of people,

860
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Speaker 1: when I can talk talking about create change, start talking

861
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: about job, talking about fear. There are people out there

862
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Speaker 1: in relationship right now they don't want to be in,

863
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: but they're afraid to make change. There are people out

864
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Speaker 1: there working jobs for the hours a week. They don't

865
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Speaker 1: want to let. People out there got a hamburger sitting

866
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Speaker 1: on their shaf No, it's no good, but they're afraid

867
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Speaker 1: to make change. I was talking to this company. They

868
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Speaker 1: brought me in. They had me sample all their food.

869
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Speaker 1: I told him what I didn't like about it, because

870
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Speaker 1: everybody knows them a food. I said, I hate your fries.

871
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Speaker 1: I said, I'm a fried person. Change. Oh no, our

872
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Speaker 1: customers love those fries. But are they what customers? Is

873
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Speaker 1: it a bunch of customers or just the customers who

874
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Speaker 1: come to that. You're trying to get to the bunch

875
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Speaker 1: of customers. Now, for a bunch of customers like that,

876
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Speaker 1: Rishan has nothing to say. But if just a few

877
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Speaker 1: people like those fries and you're trying to get to

878
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Speaker 1: a bunch, change those fries. So that's the conversations you're

879
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: You're holing into people all the time. People are resistant

880
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: to change. Tell us about that. So you know, one

881
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: of the things that I always say is your comfort

882
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: zone is where your dreams go to die. Because what

883
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: happens is when you're trying to stay comfortable. That means,

884
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: as my Auntie so always say, don't limit God's ability

885
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Speaker 1: to bless you because you can't see this other possibility

886
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Speaker 1: when faith Hebrews. Everyone says faith is a substance of things.

887
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: Hope for the evidence of things not seen. So you're

888
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Speaker 1: limiting what's possible by only by what you can see.

889
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: And when God is wanting something inside of you, it's

890
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: always gonna be bigger than what you say. I know

891
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Speaker 1: why I'm gonna get into the Bible. One of my

892
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: favorite Bible versus defictures three twenty is if God's gonna

893
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Speaker 1: do abundantly above all you could ask or think, if

894
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Speaker 1: it's bigger than what you've ever seen and what you

895
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: were thought of. Yeah, it's gonna be scary, but that's

896
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: what God does his best work, where we really completely

897
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Speaker 1: and totally on him and expand what's possible. That's my girl,

898
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Speaker 1: Dr Nope in the code Robert Jones. Now, now it's

899
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Speaker 1: time to my little this part of you. If you

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Speaker 1: far away from the from the microphone, from the radio,

901
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Speaker 1: the podcast, to get close. She's about to give us

902
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Speaker 1: some steps. Now again she tell us about your own

903
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Speaker 1: life classes before we get into the tips of the

904
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Speaker 1: bank rolling your brilliance. I'm sorry to tell you about

905
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Speaker 1: what your online classes that you offer so so well,

906
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Speaker 1: there's so many different kinds and here's the thing I

907
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Speaker 1: want you guys to get. Everybody is not a cookie

908
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Speaker 1: cutter everybody is different, so I said, I'd rather give

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Speaker 1: out a free gift. The free gift is my Bank

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Speaker 1: Will your Brains E book. And the reason I'm doing

911
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Speaker 1: this is because one it will allow you to see

912
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Speaker 1: where you are. But if you know me like you

913
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Speaker 1: think you might know me, you know, you can get

914
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Speaker 1: another email from me, which is also wait for your

915
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Speaker 1: ossess where you are. So the book is Bank for

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917
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918
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Speaker 1: your your genius. We'll be right back with more Money

919
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Well, one of

921
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Speaker 1: the top ones that because my wife always tells me this.

922
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Speaker 1: She's she hear me on the phone talking to people.

923
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Speaker 1: You know, stop getting away your intellectual problem, ready for free.

924
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Speaker 1: And I always tell like clear, anybody do with me

925
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Speaker 1: and you know, and and and just as a stand

926
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Speaker 1: up comedy, I always go back to where our stand

927
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Speaker 1: up comedy because I used to know comedians, you know,

928
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't go on stage and do their best set

929
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Speaker 1: because they were afraid somebody might steal a joke. And

930
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Speaker 1: I've always been the mindset is that I'm not a

931
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Speaker 1: well that's gonna run dry, you know, I'm not only that,

932
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: but always say a second rate version of me is

933
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Speaker 1: never gonna come to the first right, come on now? So,

934
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Speaker 1: so when stop giving a where your intellectual property for free?

935
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Speaker 1: Tell us over that that's one of your tips how

936
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Speaker 1: to bank roll your brother? I'm missing the serious question?

937
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: Got you? So yes, So listen, we walk around overlooking

938
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Speaker 1: our brilliance, meaning that we think, oh, doesn't everybody know

939
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: how to do this? Oh? This is easy, so you

940
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: give away content, context, advice, and if I give you

941
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Speaker 1: a tangible Except I have a girlfriend that's a journalist

942
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Speaker 1: and she was talking about people call her and try,

943
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Speaker 1: you know, to ask how she got on TV. I said,

944
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Speaker 1: stop it. You know you're coaching people, right She said, oh, yeah,

945
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: you're giving away your cookie for free. So I need

946
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Speaker 1: you to stop doing that. And so she created a

947
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Speaker 1: whole on air academy. So it's really understanding how do

948
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: you not understanding? It's really seeing that you have value

949
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: that people will pay for. That makes a difference. Right, Well,

950
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Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting because I guess the level of

951
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Speaker 1: people that call me, because you know, they would probably

952
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Speaker 1: not be signing up for online class. Go who just

953
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Speaker 1: goes to I go? Well, I think just these some advice.

954
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Speaker 1: But I know that exactly, and I think maybe one

955
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Speaker 1: day I'll sit down with you, Dr Jones, because I

956
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Speaker 1: need that coaching. You know, because people always tell me

957
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Speaker 1: that I hear the word genius, uh, brilliant, ability to

958
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: the marketing brand things. I've done it so many years consistently,

959
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Speaker 1: but I haven't been able to wrapped my head around

960
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: how does that feel like a course? How do you

961
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Speaker 1: look like a person like me? They tell me I

962
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: need to write a book. You know. Some people said, man,

963
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: any documentary on you? You know? So, but these are compliments.

964
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Speaker 1: But how do you turn compliments into revenue? So the

965
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Speaker 1: first thing that I do with my clients is we

966
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Speaker 1: create what I call a blueprint or a method adology.

967
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: So because you cannot see the label from inside the jar,

968
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Speaker 1: what do I mean by that? Okay, so don't judge me.

969
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: This is not cool. Like this is vitamin water, Okay,

970
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: but on this water bottle there is a label. If

971
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: you live inside a jar, and the labels on outside,

972
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: you can't see what you do. So then when you

973
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Speaker 1: try this is why it's Hartyra Shane, when you try

974
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: to then package what you do into some kind of

975
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Speaker 1: methodology to teach people, it's hard because you just do

976
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: it effortlessly. So helping some having someone that can produce

977
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Speaker 1: you this is where I say my TV and from

978
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: from casting to producing comes into play, because really what

979
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: I do is take you through an exercise. When I'm

980
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: producing the value that is coming out of you effortlessly,

981
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: I can see it. We write it down, we create

982
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: a methodology from it. Now, what do I mean by that?

983
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: Most people have a think about it like this. When

984
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: I wake up in the morning and I washed my face,

985
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: I have a whole routine that I rushed my teeth,

986
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: wash my face, put on my makeup. If I forget

987
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: to do something, it is because I did something out

988
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: of order. I have a methodology and so when I'm

989
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: outside of it's something off and I can feel it.

990
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: It's the same way we each function in our gifts

991
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: and we don't realize it because we're on autopilot. So

992
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: it's really taking the time to have someone help you

993
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Speaker 1: do that, and you can't do it because again, you

994
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: can't see the light BOLB. So there'll be things that

995
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Speaker 1: you overlook, which we intrinsically all do that you know

996
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Speaker 1: one percent agree with this habit because like when I travel,

997
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Speaker 1: if I break tradition, like for Insch, I travel, will

998
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: always have a carry bag, and sometimes I have a

999
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: carry bag I can put in the up top. Like

1000
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: when I went to Orlando last week, I didn't bring

1001
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: the carry bag to put up top. I just check

1002
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Speaker 1: luggage and child. When I got off from that plane seat,

1003
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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, something uncomfortable, right, somethings are comfortable.

1004
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: Something that's comfortable. And it's the same thing like I've

1005
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Speaker 1: left maybe two coach on the plane. You know, they

1006
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Speaker 1: come to you and you check them. Because I broke habit,

1007
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Speaker 1: you know I didn't. You really have to be aware

1008
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Speaker 1: of doing things successfully and a have it way. Because

1009
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: you break habit, it does impact your life. Yeah yeah,

1010
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: and so what in essence you have to do is

1011
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: take the thing that you've been doing. Look, every morning

1012
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: when I wake up, I can't wake up and say

1013
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: I think I feel like being reshawn today. Yeah, that

1014
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: will not work every day automatically in the cold. So again,

1015
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Speaker 1: there's things that I do that I don't even realize

1016
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Speaker 1: that I'm doing. My husband sometimes laughs at me, like

1017
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: do you realize you do this? Like I laugh, and

1018
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: then I always got the end of me laugh and

1019
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't know I did that. So it's

1020
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: again that's who I am and what I do because

1021
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: I laugh really hardy and I feel like I need

1022
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: to breathe after I laugh. That's for me what that is.

1023
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: But I'm sharing that because all of us do things

1024
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Speaker 1: that we don't realize that we're doing. So it's really

1025
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: taken the time to hire someone that can pull that

1026
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: out of you so that you can then create programming

1027
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Speaker 1: from that. That is the yummy stuff that gets left

1028
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: out when people are building businesses. I am going to

1029
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: We're going to connect because I think that I need

1030
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: to bring you into my life to develop that platform

1031
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: because I really don't know what to do. I really

1032
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: don't know. But everything you're saying is absolutely correct, and

1033
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: if you have time, I will. You know, this interview

1034
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: is about you what I do for a living. I mean,

1035
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Speaker 1: I'm getting personal or now you know, like this is

1036
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: my show just about me? Now you know about you

1037
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: know more Hey, what what time can we connect so

1038
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: I can tell you my life stories to we can

1039
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: make some money, because that's what it's about. It's about

1040
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: making money, but making money off your experience, making money

1041
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: off your value. And then but it's also you know,

1042
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: stepping out of your comfort zone. And I think that's

1043
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: one of the things that you talk about a lot,

1044
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: because I can't do what you do, like you just said,

1045
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: I can't wake up into jan because but but I

1046
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: gotta lean in your direction because you're a truth. And

1047
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: if there's another thing to Rishan when you think about

1048
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: that is there will be some people I think, oh,

1049
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: she's too much and I am too much for you,

1050
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: But there are some people that love me because I'm

1051
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: I'm very animated. That's who I am. So some people

1052
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: try to turn it down. I stopped letting people turn

1053
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: down my life. This is who I am. I didn't

1054
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: create this. God did. So what I'm saying when I

1055
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: turned down my life is God made a mistake. Instead

1056
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Speaker 1: of being all of who I am and knowing that

1057
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Speaker 1: there are some people that I'm assigned and aligned with

1058
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Speaker 1: and some I'm not, and that's okay. That's for all

1059
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: of us and the more you get clear on that,

1060
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: the better your life, your business. Even. I love how

1061
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: you talk about relationships. Everything is relafe. It's how we

1062
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: relate to one another. And so when you start to

1063
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Speaker 1: be you fully and completely, that's when people can really

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Speaker 1: relate with you. And that's that's really the truth. And

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a comfort zone with you in

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Speaker 1: communicating because I interviewed people all the time. I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you how many people I probably could have said,

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Speaker 1: you know so Nicole, dr Kole, Robert shows and we

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Speaker 1: need to connect because I can't do something because my

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Speaker 1: whole career is tied to Roshane McDonald knows everything ras

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I remember Steve Harvey said, Richane, do you

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Speaker 1: really think you know everything? I go, yeah, what do

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Speaker 1: you want to do? Say no? That that that's the

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00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: type part of my DNA. My part of my DNA

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Speaker 1: is to have answers. And that's what makes me successful

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Speaker 1: when people come to me with answers. And so when

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Speaker 1: you when so if I tell people publicly that as

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Speaker 1: a leader, you know, they always tell you can't show

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Speaker 1: any signs of weakness, and so that sometimes as a leader,

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Speaker 1: you caend not go to somebody who may be a subordinate.

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Speaker 1: That's saying you're a subordinate, but somebody else who has

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00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: a different skill set and admit you can't do that,

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00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: and they might use that against you. I'm just telling

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00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: you you've created a conference zone with me that I

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00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: don't feel a negative spirit when I tell you I

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Speaker 1: need your help. Well, here's the other thing too, Rashan,

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of us are born to fit

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Speaker 1: in the box. Each of us were born to disrupt

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Speaker 1: whatever system are called to work in. What do I

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Speaker 1: mean by that? So if I work in corporate, corporate

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00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: is already corporate. Corporate doesn't need more of corporate. So

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Speaker 1: if I go in there with all my flowery you know,

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Speaker 1: bolt colors and I'm all animated, they love it. But

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Speaker 1: some people will try to fit in the box of

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Speaker 1: corporate and go in there, and they wonder why they're

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Speaker 1: not coming back for more and more. Corporate doesn't need

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00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: more of corporate, and they're hiring you because they need

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Speaker 1: you to be different than that system. And so I

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Speaker 1: think so many of us trying to fit into a box,

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Speaker 1: and God never intended for us to fit any kind

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Speaker 1: of box. Well, I didn't know someone she's not fitting

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Speaker 1: in my box. I'm talking at very formative speaker. She'll

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Speaker 1: tell you how to bank roll your brilliance, Doctor n

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Speaker 1: Co Robert Jones. Now, what's what's in the future. We're

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Speaker 1: going into three. I already gave you. I always spoke

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Speaker 1: some some gifts into the into the world about working

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Speaker 1: for the government. Yeah, in the fourth court, I always

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Speaker 1: know in the fourth quarter, I planned for the first

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Speaker 1: quarter for four planning for the first quarter to the

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Speaker 1: upcoming year. And now you know you think the same way.

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00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: Tell you our audience how you do that. So at

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Speaker 1: the actually octold her every year I sit down and

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Speaker 1: plan my entire next year. And the reason I do

1114
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: that is because when things are planned and stuff happens,

1115
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Speaker 1: you'll plans don't always work out the way you plan

1116
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: them out. But when you have a plan, you can

1117
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: move stuff around easily instead of you could be proactive

1118
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: rather than reactive. When COVID had already had things planned out,

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00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: I moved stuff around because COVID happened. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: always sit down some from quarter one. I'm working on

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Speaker 1: my next book, so, by the grace of God, I'll

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Speaker 1: have a book deal this time. Instead of self publishing. Hello,

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Speaker 1: come on, lord right, So that's one and then I

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Speaker 1: told you I'm going into the government. Um sector is

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Speaker 1: those are my two big goals for top of Okay,

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Speaker 1: you forgot the third one, Rushan McDonald. Okay, that's a

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00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: giving what you can't let me. You can't let people

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Speaker 1: forget your dreams? Now, you know, just to keep that

1129
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Speaker 1: she said, that's a given. Nothing. This reminds you Roushan

1130
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Speaker 1: is not doing an interview personality here. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: that I feel the spirit I said, and the spirit

1132
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Speaker 1: is that you have to you. You know that you

1133
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: know I'm only getting older. I feel good about how

1134
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Speaker 1: look at what I do. But somewhere along the line,

1135
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Speaker 1: I have to listen to what people keep telling me

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Speaker 1: sometime on the daily basis, weekly basis, monthly basis. Sharing

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Speaker 1: your gifts are undeniable. You think you thinks that are

1138
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: very unique and share able. Uh and and you do

1139
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Speaker 1: the same thing, Dr Jones. And and it's time for

1140
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Speaker 1: me to come to a person like you and allow

1141
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Speaker 1: you to unleash some gifts that I have hidden. And

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Speaker 1: so I want to thank you for coming finally coming

1143
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Speaker 1: to my show because we've like schedule. Let's me this

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Speaker 1: interview four five times, right right right. The first time,

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Speaker 1: the studio did some praises like what's going on? Yes, yes,

1146
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: I need to be here and let me let me

1147
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: just say this. You know, even with us talking about you,

1148
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Speaker 1: what you're looking to do is create your legacy. I

1149
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: hate to say this, but long when you are no

1150
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: longer here in your programs, will always be here to

1151
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: bless people. So what you're doing is create a legacy

1152
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: and financial revenue still coming to your loved ones when

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00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: you're not here. Right, Well, my friend, you're always a blessing.

1154
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: You're you're energy. I'm tell you'll something. Do not waste

1155
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Speaker 1: your time listening to it, this this podcast and listening

1156
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Speaker 1: to this interview. Go find a video she is at.

1157
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Speaker 1: And I said that in the Very pot Man she

1158
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Speaker 1: is a blessing I always enjoyed talking to because she

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Speaker 1: her physicality, her animation is uplifting, and her smile is infectious. Again,

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Speaker 1: dr to Cole robint Jones, thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation master Class. Thank you for having me,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, appreciate you and we're talking soon. Okay, Yes,

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Speaker 1: give me that number of son. Call you. I've given

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Speaker 1: to you last time you lost it three to three.

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Speaker 1: Make sure it might pop up. Y'all. Hold on, you've

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Speaker 1: been listening to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: Always remember to lead with your gifts. Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Masterclass is a presentation of thirty fifteen Media Incorporated. You

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Speaker 1: are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of

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Speaker 1: Inspiration with Rushan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rashan mcdonal for Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation Masterclass with your daily Meaning of Inspiration. This

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Speaker 1: week I sat down with per businessman, reality TV star

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Speaker 1: and creator of cryptocurrency coins Jim Jones. He explains why

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Speaker 1: it's important to take advantage of every opportunity for more

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Speaker 1: opportunities I can have for myself for better chances. I

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Speaker 1: have become successful with adding more money to the path.

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Speaker 1: Um and I'm from harm But we learned about was hustling.

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Speaker 1: When you hall hustles doesn't necessarily mean hustler. Jones and

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Speaker 1: meusic hustle or something to make some money. I was

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Speaker 1: very good at that. I figured why not the most

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Speaker 1: average the average engineer, the average millionaire has about seven

1182
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Speaker 1: seven hustles. I got a little bit more than that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm doing pretty good out here, but I challenged

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Speaker 1: myself to take on different things that excite me. I

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Speaker 1: started to find myself taking on opportunities as they present themselves,

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Speaker 1: as they probably won't present themselves twice listen to this

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Speaker 1: four interview with Jim Jones. It's available on Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations dot com