WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Step-By-Step 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.600 Hi everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading the 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:12.520 Bengals Booth podcast the step Fast app. Addition, as my 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.920 broadcast partner, Dave Lapham joins me to discuss week two 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:20.720 of organized team activities or OTAs for the Bengals under 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.919 new head coach Zach Taylor. 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Well, a little bit of 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:17.680 situational stuff today. Monday was no situational football whatsoever. Today 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.239 was a lot of red zone stuff. And I think it's, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.639 you know, it's it's a it's a progression, and it's 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.320 a step by step progression, and I think overall there 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.919 is improvement, but they're not there yet. But again, when 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.639 you when you look over on the on the rehab field, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.000 you got Pro bowlers galore, AJ Green, the perennial one, 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.600 Tyler Eifford, a Pro bowler, Joe Mixon, AFC rushing leader, 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.320 Pro Bowl candidate. I mean that that's three serious components 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.280 to your offense, probably your three biggest components to your 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:50.079 offense potentially. Um So you know there they are down 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:54.320 a few weapons, and honestly, I think it's unfortunate because 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.160 getting those reps is big. This is a new offense 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.000 and there is a process to a step by step 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.519 process to it, and I thought overall, it was better 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.960 than it was last Monday. I'm not saying red zone 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:07.440 doesn't need a lot of improvement. I don't know how 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.520 much red zone they've done. We only see one practice 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.920 a week, but red zone when we were good in 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.240 eighty one and the eighty eight team, I was part 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.880 of red zone practices and watched red zone practices where 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.560 you know, eighty eighty five percent of the time there 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.519 were completions. I mean the ball wasn't on the ground, 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.880 whereas you know today it was more toward fifty percent 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.560 of the time and there were turnout. You don't want 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.079 to turnovers in the red zone. That happened though. Those 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.639 are the kind of things you need to avoid. So 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.280 there are miles to go before they rest. But I'm 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.520 telling you Dan standing behind them. You know, I look 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.320 at Gary Kubiak's offense that he ran with the Houston 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.160 Texans and in Denver that was inside outside zone and 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:46.760 then they ran play action off of that, and they 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.120 got big chunk plays off that play action. It was remarkable. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.160 You'd watch the end zone footage and right at the 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.680 mesh point you'd stop it and say run or pass, 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.360 and you're guessing, and it's a fifty fifty proposition. Sometimes 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:01.880 would be a run. Sometimes you pull out out of 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.040 there and be a pass. Well, think of what the 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.920 defensive linemen are thinking. Do I need to oh, man, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.400 what is this the worst thing that you can get? 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.840 A best thing the offense can make a defense due 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.720 And the worst thing a defense wants to have to 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.040 do is guests. And if you have defensive lineman like man, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.719 I can't blow off the field like I want to 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.840 because they may be running the ball here. It's the 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.040 exact same look. You get a little hesitation and then 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.600 they have to restart. By the time they restart, it's 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.880 too late. The ball's out. In the National Football League, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.320 linebackers looking is it a run? Is it a pass? 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.040 It's a run, I better get my first step downhill. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.200 Oh oh man, it's a pass. If it's a pass, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.440 I better get my first step in a drop step. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.200 I'm heading down hill because I'm thinking it's a run. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.080 I mean, they got you in between a rock or 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.599 hard place, and you know, pass rush linebacker, play safeties. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.039 It's tough. And if they when they get it down, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.480 they don't have it down yet. When they get it down, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.760 it's going to be very interesting to watch it from 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.320 the end zone because the play action passes are right 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.960 off of those run plays. It's the exact same look. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.960 It's not like just a token play action pass just 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.520 to do it from a timing or rhythm standpoint. It 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.880 is off of those play and the alignement of pulling 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.280 and all the actions going on. It's a it's an 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.200 identical snapshot photo up until the mesh point of the football. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.200 So they are going to get a lot of chunk 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:19.360 plays out of this. Uh this offensive football team, and 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:23.440 and really a big, big reason for success in those 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.080 play actions or pressed the digitation by the quarterback having 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.400 that good play action stuff. Sam Weich was the best 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.200 at it. His hands were huge, he'd hide the football 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.200 and he was a magician. And he was a magician, 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.000 no question. And he was a magician with that football. 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.880 But all the guys he coached, Joe Montana, Kenny Anderson, 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.800 I mean, these guys were really good with play action passing. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.760 And that's the biggest part of it is the quarterback 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.480 hard fake and a Boomer Scienson. He coach Boomer Siensen 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.280 hard fake with the play action hide the football. That's 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.800 a big key to the success. So Andy Dalton had 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.360 some good ones out there, and he's got to keep 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.280 continue to work on that because that's going to be 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.880 his best friend. I'm glad you brought that up because 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.160 I wrote down the first five plays that they ran. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.360 First play play action bootleg to the right, two receivers 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.600 going out in that direction. Use Zama or Alex Erickson. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.279 He passed ericson for a nice game. Second play play 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.440 action deep ball Josh Maloney was incomplete, but that was 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:23.040 the play. Third play play action role to the right screen, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.560 back to the left. Fourth play play action to the right, 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.120 deep shot down the left sideline for John Ross fifth 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.840 play run up the metal, big gaping hole set up 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.400 by what we had seen from the previous four plays exactly. 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:40.280 Sometimes in this type of offense, you know people like, well, 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:41.960 the run game's going to set up play action. Play 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.960 action sets up the run two. I mean it's it's 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.000 a glove fit in the hand type of thing. It 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.680 really does. Is particularly if you can get you're in 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.719 situations where you're second and four, third and two where 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.880 you can run it or throw it. You know, you 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.039 don't want to be behind the chains if you stay 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.919 ahead of the chains offensively. Now you have the defense guessing, 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.839 big time guessing, and the quarterbacks that the Bengals have 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.200 on the roster are capable of getting out of pockets. 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.120 So not only the play action stuff will slow a 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.600 defensive lineman down. Changing the launch point slows the defensive 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.880 lineman down. You don't want to let them get outside 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:18.920 of your contain. You have to be, you know, real 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.640 careful to make sure that you change your course or 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.960 your path of pass rush to try to contain the 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.400 quarterback or have somebody out there containing the quarterback. Because 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.040 it gives him a two way go. You know, he 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.520 can tuck it and pick up yards running the football. 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.640 If there's no pass rush out there and coverage is good, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.360 you can you know, not jeopardize putting the ball in danger, 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.080 tuck it and run and then slide get out of bounds, 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.640 do those kinds of things. So it's going to be interesting. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.080 I think this. I like the concept of what they're 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.480 trying to get to. They haven't gotten to it yet, 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.480 but I think when they do, and they have all 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.280 their weapons. And that's the thing too, because you know, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.840 everybody is trying to learn it and absorb it and 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.680 the only way you do it is reps. So it's 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:02.680 unfortunate that a Joe Mixon, you know, Tyler Eiffort, aren't 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.559 getting those reps with Andy. And that's why these guys 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.360 that don't show up at these OTAs, and it is 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.280 voluntary and they're not getting the reps with their teammates, 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.240 not getting the reps with the quarterback. I think that's 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.800 that's too bad. I think I think that's a tough dynamic, 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.000 particularly if they're working with a new quarterback. These guys 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.000 aren't working with a new quarterback, but they're working with 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.040 a new offense. These other guys that are signing places 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.240 and not going new quarterback, new coach, new system, knew everything. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:31.280 So in this case, the new coach, new system, same quarterback, 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.280 which you want. You'd like to get those reps because 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:38.199 everybody is working now in the process of taking a 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.440 step one, step two, step three and assimilating that offense. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:46.320 Whether it be you know, situational football, red zone, third down, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.040 that's something they'll they'll get into third down, fourth down, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.160 clock management. All those kind of things are going to 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.880 be big. We talked a lot about the offensive line 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.080 last week, and they lined up the same way today. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.600 Jonah Williams had left tackle, Corty Glenn left guard, Belly 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:03.040 Price at center, John Miller at right guard, Bobby Hart 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.480 at right tackle. Let's turn over and look at the 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.960 defensive line. That's a group that's got some really talented players. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.760 Geno Atkins first and foremost, Carlos Dunlap, Carl Lawson assuming 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.040 he comes back one hundred percent this year. And yet 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.640 despite those names and again lost in has hurt last year. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.400 It was a unit that was not dominant last year. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.240 And to me at least, it's a group that should 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.880 play better than it played. I agree with you. They've 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.520 got talent to be much better than they were. And 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.640 I think lou Anna Ruma was doing a good job 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.760 of putting it together and I think I think the 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:40.720 coaches are doing a good job of communicating his message 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.320 and they're doing it, you know, with guys that played 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.760 in the league, like in Easton. Easton is having a 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.000 major impact, I think on the defensive line, and I 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.240 agree with you, Dan, I think if if the Bengals 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.800 get consistent play out of their offensive line, defensive line, 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.160 and linebackers, they're going to be pretty good defensive line 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.520 and linebackers. That's two thirds of the defense right there, 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.079 and they were having issues, and then of course when 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:04.760 they're having issues, the secondary is going to have a 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.280 tremendous amount issues. I think the secondary is good enough 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.280 to play at a high level if the front seven 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.959 gives them an opportunity. And I think that they're doing 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.320 a pretty good job of handling this offense right now 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.840 as they're going through the learning curve and coverage and 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:22.760 they're hustling their run to the football. There's very few 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.439 in to my either's you know, there's always going to 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.320 be assignment mistakes, but it's not a plague of assignment mistakes. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.440 So you know that the guys are into it. They've 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.040 bought in there in the right spirit and the right 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.240 frame of mind. They're learning it. So I'm encouraged by it. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.840 And the thing that you can always tell Dan about 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.560 players you mentioned, you know a couple of the offensive 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.000 lineman Corty glenn and John Miller at the guard position. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:50.440 Unsolicited defensive players have said, Quarty glenn Man is so big, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.960 he's going to be a tough, tough matchup at guard. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:58.000 John Miller powerful, strong dude. So pads aren't on yet, 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:03.719 but they're still the best recommendation you can get, or 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.160 probably the most trustworthy evaluation is a teammate, a player 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.440 going against a guy in practice or a guy that 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.400 works against him in games, and those kind of things. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.920 The other one sample, multiple defensive players have come up 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.360 to me tight ends a football player, and when you 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.840 look at sample, it's like, Okay, he's not like a 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.160 world class athlete rookie mini camp, he didn't exhibit world 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:30.120 class athletic ability, but when he got into football, he's 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.959 a football player, and he's a football player in this 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.240 OTAs with the veteran players. He is going to make 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.520 a lot of plays. He is. I think he's I 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.040 think he's fooling. I think he's faster than people think 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.080 he is. I think he's got functional football speed and 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.679 I'm interested to see and it was, it was. It 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.040 was good to my years to hear unsolicited teammates on 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.840 the defensive side of the football. Tight end play lap 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.719 tight ends. He's got some He's got some talent. He's 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.200 a football player. That's the biggest compliment you can make, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.040 because a one football played to another. You know, it's 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.320 not track and field. You know it's football. And I 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.679 think the kid's going to be a good player. I 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:10.800 was not able to attend the rookie mini camp. It 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.040 sounded like the quarterback they drafted in the fourth round, 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:20.400 Ryan Finlay struggled somewhat that weekend last Monday, so so 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.560 early today. He threw a bad interception where he overthrew 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.040 his target and went right into the hands of Demitrius Cox. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.160 Then they got to those red zone drills and he 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.800 started to look better. Yeah, And I think I think 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:36.160 with him usually, I mean, the biggest adjustment for any 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.719 at any position is the quarterback position, because I mean 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.760 it's it's like it's rush are you know out there? 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.520 Sometimes you think he might see things. I mean they 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.679 were doing some zone blitz stuff today. Defensively, early in practice, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.280 I saw Sam Hubbard dropping off, you know, into coverage 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.720 instead of pass rushing. And he's athletic enough, as we know, 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.160 he played safety in high school, played linebacker in college 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.439 before he moved to defensive linemens, So he's athletic enough 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.280 to do those kind of things. And you know, you 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.400 see it some in college, but you just don't see 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.760 it as much as as big a variation of scheme 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.079 as you might see in the NFL. With the talented 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.640 With the talent level of player that you see in 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.959 the NFL, you'll hear rookie players say it all the time. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.600 You know, I might have played against three guys last year. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.560 They're as good as these guys at this level. And 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.040 this is every day, this is every day of practice, 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.360 every game. You know you're gonna be tested both mentally 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.560 and physically. And Ryan Finley's in that boat for sure. 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.319 As I mentioned earlier, one of their first plays of 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.679 the day was a deep ball down the left sideline 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.000 for John Ross, he caught at least one touchdown pass 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.040 and the red zone drills they gave it to him 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.600 on a reverse. Do you see his confidence growing? Can 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.320 you tell that from watching him in OTAs? I do 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:52.280 see it growing. And Andy is definitely they weren't on 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.480 the same page and early in the red zone drills 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.520 and the ball was incomplete when it shouldn't have been. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.800 And Andy immediately went over to John Ross to make 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.760 sure or that, UM tell him what he saw and 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.280 what he thought he should have done and explain it 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.439 to John. So John, they you know, they do get 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.480 on the same page. Um. Yeah, I think I think 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.280 They're going to try to uh incorporate John Ross's skill 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.360 set into this offense. I mean he's he's just what 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.400 the doctor ordered in terms of if you, you know, 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:24.240 put into a computer some some talent, some physical abilities 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.080 that you'd like to have at the receiver position in 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.920 this type of scheme. John Ross fits that bill. I mean, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:30.960 when that guy goes in motion for a jet sweep, 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.080 you have to honor it. But if you give him 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.520 the football and you're you're lagging behind, you know, your 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.320 your guests, and he can he can scorch you. Um, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.480 and you can you can run routes off of that 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.600 jet sweep fake Jeff sweep action as well. And I 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.480 mean he's definitely got got talent, but I think he's 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.960 still thinking too much. Uh. Tyler Boyd has said that. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.480 Tyler Boyd went on record saying that, you know, John 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.720 Ross is still uh, instead of you know, fluidly reacting 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.880 to coverages, he's stinking a little bit too much. That 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.680 indicates that four to two speed, you know, when you're thinking, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.760 when you're unsure an athlete, it's not confident, affects the 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.640 functional football speed. And I think he's still fighting through 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.320 that phase of it. But he I think they're looking 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.240 to him to make a lot of big place for 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.800 this football team this season. It's late May. This is 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.120 week two of the OTAs. They have three weeks of 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.160 these OTAs a total of ten practices. What were you 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:27.000 doing in late May in your playing career. Yeah, we 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:31.480 only had one one mandatory you know, camp was right 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.800 after draft, rookies and veterans would get together. The rookies 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.560 would have like an orientation day and then get together 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:43.200 with the with the veterans for a mini camp. And really, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.480 I mean my entire career. I had an offseason job. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.120 You know, it was my first three years salary twenty 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.280 six thousand and twenty nine thousand and thirty three thousand. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.960 It wasn't you know, a gold mine. But but and 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.120 I wanted to do something. You know, I was married 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.800 and already had kids, so you know, I wanted to 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:03.000 do something to prepare myself for life after football, not 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.280 knowing when that life was going to start. One was 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.800 gonna end and one was going to start. So every 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.880 off season I had a job to at least eliminate 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.880 vocations or to see if I was, you know, choosing 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.080 the right path. Maybe to make sure that when I 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.240 was done playing football that I'd be in the right arena. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.680 So had offseason jobs. And then would you know, make 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.200 sure that at lunchtime I was doing my workouts. If 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.520 I took a two hour lunch or an hour and 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.160 a half or something to make up to have a 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.880 strong workout down in Spinny Field, I'd either come in 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.040 earlier stay late, you know, just on the off season job. 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.560 So did a bunch of different things. Worked in public 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.200 relations at the Savings and Loan. I worked with Bob 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:47.080 Johnson and Imperiallydhess when he bought that selling that you know, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.800 substitute top one year, did a whole bunch of different 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:53.720 things and eliminated some vocations pretty quickly. What was the 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.920 worst off season gig and you're playing days, I'd have 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:01.720 to say substitute teaching, because you know, it's like when 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.399 when the when the teacher's out, let's take advantage of 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:08.360 the situation. You know, it's like you're a babysitter, you know. Yeah, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.520 but I and I would try to lay the law 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.879 down a little bit. And I mean the other teachers 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.520 are like, oh no, yeah, it's great, you're doing a 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.639 great job. But I always felt like, you know, I 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.320 try to follow along with the teacher's lesson planning. You know, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.520 I didn't want the kids to fall behind her if 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.680 I had the same class for three days and um, 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:29.119 you know, sometimes successfully, sometimes not. But at my respect 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:33.080 level for the teaching profession dramatically increased. I didn't really 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.080 have behavioral problems or anything in the class. I think 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.040 probably because they you know, I don't want to mess 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.159 around with this uh, with this guy potentially, But I 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.800 did have one in excuse me, one instance that though 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:50.840 at a vocational school. Um and uh, the principle. I 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:52.840 go into the school and he goes, you've got the pit. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.040 I said, oh, I know what the pit is. It's 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.199 where when kids get kicked out of class, they had 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.399 to go signing at the pit and find something to do. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:03.479 I'm like, that's what you want me to do? All 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.800 that I can make a better contribution than that. No, No, 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.960 you're perfect for the pit. And so two periods go by, 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.600 I'm just sitting there reading books and I'm stealing money. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.440 Third period, this kid shows up, big kid, and I 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.680 slid a piece of paper. I said, put your name, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.200 clash you get kicked out of and reason and sit 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:22.960 down and open a book and find something to do. 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.800 F you drops it off. So I'm like, maybe you 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.520 didn't hear me. So I get up from my seat 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.400 and slide the thing over again. And I am walking 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.760 around the table and the last thing the principal said 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.240 to me is don't touch any of the kids. I'm 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:36.720 not going to touch any of these kids. You know 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.760 there's no way I wouldn't. Do you think I'm stupid. 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.280 Kid swings at me and I stepped back and I 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:43.840 drill him, drop him. I hit him right in the 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.879 chest with my fist goes up under his chest and 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.719 his solar plexus. I hear all the air come out 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.360 of him. He goes down to his knees. He's like yeah. 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.560 He gets up and sits down and signs in. I 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.520 didn't hear a thing, not a peep out of him, 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.840 So then you know, I at the end of the day, 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:01.639 there were two or three other kids signed at the 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.360 end of the day that the Prince was like, any 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.240 promise that first name right there? He was what happened 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.199 as well, I'm gonna be honest with you. I had 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:09.679 to drop He goes, drop him. What do you mean 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.200 drop him? That's what he took a swing at me, 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:16.359 And I responded, you know, self defense, and he goes, really, 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.159 he goes, that's your story. I said, yeah, that is 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.280 my story. It's the truth. So but I never the 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.600 principal never heard anything from him. I never did. I 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:25.760 went home, and of course Lynn wasn't happy you did. 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:30.360 What He's gonna own us, But I think I think 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.200 it was the first time it was ever really maybe 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.600 discipline in his life. I don't know him a favorite. Yeah, 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.080 when he sat down, hushed up, and I never heard 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:38.760 a peep out him the rest of the time, but 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.040 the whole time and thinking, oh man, do I say 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.960 something this kid or just let it ride out decided 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.040 to just let it ride. Why decision? Yeah for sure. 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.080 I don't know about you, but I never had a 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:53.440 substitute teacher that resembled Dave Lapham. We've learned quite a 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.520 bit about Jonah Williams since the Bengal selected him with 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.399 the eleventh overall pick in this year's draft, but on 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.359