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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annik and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Big job the Cooktuffia Franker.

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Speaker 2: Find out up there are a couple of absolutely self

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Speaker 1: Your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's it great to be back with you. Therapy

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Speaker 5: in the form of an audio and video podcast. Monday,

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Speaker 5: December nine, twenty twenty four. It is the five hundred

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Speaker 5: and twenty seventh episode of the Anakin Floran Podcast. John

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Speaker 5: Anak alongside three time UFC title challenger Kenny Florian. Good morning,

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Speaker 5: my friend, ten Am Eastern on the screws. It's great

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Speaker 5: to be with you.

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Speaker 4: Cheers, buddy, cheers, and congratulations on your Commentator of the

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Speaker 4: Year award. That was awesome, very cool to see you

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Speaker 4: get that award, man, and I love it. And now

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Speaker 4: here you are again. You didn't have enough MMA and

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Speaker 4: then we're right back to talking UFC.

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Speaker 5: Well we're back well. As Joe Rogan likes to say,

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Speaker 5: we are nothing if not professional MMA fans. And this

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Speaker 5: originally started because I felt like I needed an outlet,

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Speaker 5: I needed a conduit through which to get things off

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Speaker 5: my chest after these UFC pay per views, and that

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Speaker 5: was this initiative back in twenty fifteen. But hey, thanks

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Speaker 5: for the kind words, and thanks to the MMA fans

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Speaker 5: for getting out the vote. And I went downstairs to

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Speaker 5: have my photo opportunity for MMA Commentator of the Year

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Speaker 5: and the guy was like, congratulations again, and I said,

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Speaker 5: let me stop you there for a second. My man.

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Speaker 5: This is my first trophy. You know, this is the

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Speaker 5: first time anybody in my family has won anything. So

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Speaker 5: this is not a repeat winner, but a new category.

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Speaker 5: And we're absolutely honored thanks to Fighters Only and Matt

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Speaker 5: Brown and Dave Farrah and Rob Hewitt in the World

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Speaker 5: MMA Awards, but mostly this fan base that just gives

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Speaker 5: me so much confidence going to that goddamn booth. So

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Speaker 5: we have a lot to get to today. And as

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Speaker 5: I like to say, we do fourteen pay per view

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Speaker 5: recap recap episodes, and I feel like these are the

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Speaker 5: episodes that I most look forward to. You don't text

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Speaker 5: me anymore, right, so it's not like I have some

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Speaker 5: major back and forth with you on these pay per

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Speaker 5: view fight nights. You know, longo just calls. I screened

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Speaker 5: those phone calls most of the time, and do you

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Speaker 5: want to know why? By the way, so Cody texts

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Speaker 5: him today or messages him in whatever way that that

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Speaker 5: I have a conflict with one of my kids. So

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Speaker 5: we're getting a little start, a little bit early. Maybe

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Speaker 5: if he could do like ten forty five am. And

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Speaker 5: Ray's response was, I'll try so care about so we'll see.

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Speaker 5: So if we have to wait ninety minutes and have

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo towards the end of the program, that's exactly

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Speaker 5: what we will do. But a lot to get into today.

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Speaker 5: We will recap the piss out of UFC three ten,

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Speaker 5: and then the final UFC show of the year beckons

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Speaker 5: this weekend in is UFC Fight Night, Covington versus Buckley.

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Speaker 5: I might actually go as a fan, but we've got

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Speaker 5: some predictions five main car predictions coming up as these

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Speaker 5: guys close out. Place your bets in the main event

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Speaker 5: Challenge twenty twenty four style. But we begin, of course

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Speaker 5: with our UFC three ten recap. Headlines is brought to

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Speaker 5: you by Quervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the

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Speaker 5: tequila that invented tequila, and we will start with the

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Speaker 5: main event. The cannibal alas Chandre Pantosa at his cannibalistic

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Speaker 5: best once again. Ken Flow The rear Naked Show comes

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Speaker 5: at two oh five of round number two. Pantosa successful

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Speaker 5: entitled defense number three, and uh, what a moment for

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Speaker 4: His nickname is so great. Yeah, this guy is uh.

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Speaker 4: He has the durability he has as the work ethic,

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Speaker 4: you know, the aggression, the toughness and most certainly the

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Speaker 4: is he sharp, especially on that back take. And you

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Speaker 4: know he went against a guy in Asakura who was

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Speaker 5: So you said durability, work ethic, aggression, toughness, grappling skill.

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Speaker 5: in Las Vegas, but certainly one of the best pound

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Speaker 5: a little bit deeper on Pantosa and his legacy in

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Speaker 5: this performance individually, KaiOS Akora is very fast to the

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Speaker 4: I agree, man, I think asa Kora is going to

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of guys that he knocks out in defeats.

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Speaker 5: this is this level, and uh, just so much respect

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Speaker 5: for Pantosia and this win and just the rear naked

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Speaker 5: naked shoke because we're still showing fucking Kenny Florin's name

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what the hell's up with that? How am I

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Speaker 4: I don't think Pantosa is that kind of guy. He

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Speaker 5: There's no doubt. So in our fighter meeting with Nate

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Speaker 5: And I think among Pantosia's greatest traits is that he

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Speaker 4: Not only is he not downshifting, the dude's adding turbo

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Speaker 5: So Pantosia now has three successful title defenses. He has

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Speaker 5: So that is what it is, right but for me,

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Speaker 5: So we always talk about the fighters in the modern era, right,

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Speaker 5: And even if Israel out of Sonia's legacy doesn't stack

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Speaker 5: think about Pantosia increasingly getting better and what he has

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a great question, and also is

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Speaker 4: dependent on how you're going to define that how we

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Speaker 4: is an overall skill set? Who they've beaten? I think

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Speaker 4: to say that Dimitrius Johnson is still that dude, and

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Speaker 4: even like his modern skills will still hold up here

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Speaker 4: beat Pantosia. You know, Pantosia may not be as multifaceted,

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Speaker 4: Habib Nirmaga Metov in Islam mahas Chef Hamzat Chimayav, that

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Speaker 5: And I think for any champion, Chase sing Greatness and

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Speaker 5: to Shavkop. But congratulations to Pantosia. I mean, can I

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Speaker 5: Of course, Brandon Moreno is number two rank contender, and

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Speaker 5: figureto and he has fought all Chandre Pantosa three times, right,

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Speaker 5: But it is the cannibal's world. At one hundred and

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Speaker 5: Rockmanov by unanimous decision over Ian Maschado Gary forty eight

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Speaker 4: bit incorrect, especially in regards to his head position. So, dude,

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Speaker 4: I mean it was it was under the chit. It

430
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Speaker 4: was under the hit a couple times actually as he

431
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Speaker 4: was going forward. Just again, that little finish at the

432
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Speaker 4: end was a little frustrating to watch because I thought

433
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Speaker 4: Gary was gonna.

434
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Speaker 5: Pull it off due is any part of it that

435
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Speaker 5: Rochmanov is taking some sort of preventative measure with head

436
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Speaker 5: movement to try to make it more difficult for Ian

437
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 5: Gary to sort of get to that spot or.

438
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Speaker 4: I think it was more Ian not finishing it probably

439
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Speaker 4: than it was it was shop Cut actually doing something.

440
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Speaker 4: But you're right, offensively, if you're if you're getting choked,

441
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 4: that's what you would actually do, is you know, misalign

442
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: your head a little bit. But I think it was

443
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Speaker 4: more Ian Gary than shop Cuts, which makes it that

444
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Speaker 4: much more frustrating but unfortunate man.

445
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Speaker 5: All right, hmm, So Ian the Shadow Gary is getting

446
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 5: all the best training in the world when it comes

447
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 5: to Damian Maya and Charles Olivera and Diego Lima. You know.

448
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 5: But if anyone wants to go to that padded room

449
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 5: at ken Flow's house in Charlotte, North Carolina to refine

450
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 5: the rear naked choke, I think it was Michael Kiss

451
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Speaker 5: maybe with his seventh rear naked choke victory in the UFC,

452
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Speaker 5: and we show the graphic pulls into a tie alongside

453
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Speaker 5: Kenny Florian into second place all time for the most

454
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Speaker 5: rear naked chokes. Uh in UFC history. Did you see

455
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Speaker 5: that this weekend?

456
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Speaker 4: I did that, dude, newes how to do a rear

457
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Speaker 4: naked choke? Mike, don't you think it's time to retire

458
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 4: man and quits? You know you don't need any more

459
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Speaker 4: chokes or you can keep fighting. Just don't do any

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Speaker 4: subsis please thanks.

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Speaker 5: It is just interesting because Daniel Cormier back in the

462
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Speaker 5: in the day solicited Ken fl advice when they were

463
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Speaker 5: filming UFC tonight for FS one on the rear naked choke,

464
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Speaker 5: which Daniel Cormier really could execute quite well.

465
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Speaker 4: I went out, I went out to San Jose before

466
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Speaker 4: the Anthony Johnson fight as well, and yeah that was

467
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 4: a lot of fun. But you know, DC picks up

468
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 4: things so damn quickly as an Olympic level wrestler would.

469
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Speaker 5: Uh. But yeah, he's honest, Mitch Shofcott, rock Monov too

470
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 5: right exact, So for Shovcott right, and so much praise

471
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Speaker 5: to go around. I actually I believe I'm in the minority,

472
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Speaker 5: and I guess I can say this on a microphone

473
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Speaker 5: because he and the Shadow Gary knows that I am

474
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Speaker 5: one of his staunchest supporters. I actually thought Rock Moanov

475
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 5: won the first four rounds, and I know that's minority opinion.

476
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Speaker 5: I know most people had at three to one. I

477
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Speaker 5: guess it's neither here nor there. Mischado Gary was very competitive.

478
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Speaker 5: I'm curious. I didn't see Mischado Gary's postfight comments as

479
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Speaker 5: to how he feels about his overall striking volume. I

480
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Speaker 5: do think a little more aggression and less focusing on

481
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 5: that countering style might have yielded better results. But Rockmanov

482
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 5: is incredible man, he really is, and I think for

483
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Speaker 5: him to have accrued this twenty five minutes of experience

484
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Speaker 5: before the Blau Muhammad fight is absolutely enormous for him.

485
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Speaker 2: Right.

486
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Speaker 5: I know a lot of people are saying, oh, now,

487
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Speaker 5: for Blau, right, this has got to be a tremendous

488
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Speaker 5: source of confidence. And there's no overstating how much value

489
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Speaker 5: there is for Blow to have been able to not

490
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Speaker 5: just watch this fight, but to have seen it live.

491
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Speaker 5: But Kenny, what do you think about Shavcott His performance

492
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Speaker 5: in victory, which maybe is getting underplayed because Mashiadeogary is

493
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Speaker 5: getting so much credit and how much value does this

494
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Speaker 5: fight present to him now as he moves into the

495
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Speaker 5: title fight next year.

496
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Speaker 4: Well, people can see that Ian Gary was a real

497
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Speaker 4: threat and an elite fight, or truly elite in that division.

498
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Speaker 4: So for Shavcott to go out and beat him and

499
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Speaker 4: survive some very difficult spots and to get out to

500
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Speaker 4: that kind of a lead shows the kind of firepower

501
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Speaker 4: and skills that Shavcott Rochmanoff has. The dude is amazing.

502
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Speaker 4: And again, like you said, to get twenty five minutes

503
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Speaker 4: under your belt heading into a huge fight against a

504
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Speaker 4: guy in Balal Muhammad who has a ton of minutes

505
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 4: under his belt, I think it's exactly what you want.

506
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: That's the way you want to do it. This was

507
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Speaker 4: a very risky fight for Rockmanoff to take, but I

508
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: think it will add a heck of a lot of

509
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Speaker 4: value for him as he takes on Bellaal in his

510
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Speaker 4: next one. And in regards to the fight itself, you know,

511
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Speaker 4: I did have Ian Gary winning the last two rounds,

512
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Speaker 4: but absolutely round four John was very very close. It's

513
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Speaker 4: not like it was a clear round for Ian Gary either.

514
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Speaker 4: But anyways, you know Shavcott getting out to that big

515
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Speaker 4: lead winning, you know, bagging those first three rounds was huge, dude.

516
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Speaker 5: So what do you think about the title fight between

517
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Speaker 5: Balao Muhammad and Shavcott Rochmanov? Who do you expect to

518
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 5: be the betting favorite? And as I stall for you

519
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 5: just for a second, I would submit to you that

520
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Speaker 5: the betting line would be moving close to Balad Muhammad

521
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Speaker 5: based upon what we saw this weekend, even if Shavcot

522
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 5: rock Monov will still be the betting favorite.

523
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: So I I must admit I cannot tell a lie.

524
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Speaker 4: I did see the odds. I believe it a bronzeteat

525
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 4: or that released him, and I think it was a

526
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Speaker 4: minus one ninety for rock Monoff. I forget exactly what

527
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: Blaal's odds were, but it was, it was. It was

528
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: pretty close. You know, it wasn't a huge favorite for

529
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Speaker 4: chav Cutt. But I'll tell you this, I don't agree

530
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Speaker 4: with it. I would have Ballall as the favorite. I really,

531
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Speaker 4: I really would. And this is no disrespect to Shafcott

532
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 4: rock Monov. I think he's a tremendous fighter. I just

533
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: think for Ballall, Ballall can figure out a way to

534
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 4: beat that guy. And I think that's where Ballall's greatness

535
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 4: lies is in his intelligence and his ability to execute

536
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: the right tactics and strategy at the right time. And

537
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Speaker 4: I think for Ballall, it was extremely valuable to see

538
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Speaker 4: twenty five minutes of rock and see exactly how we

539
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: would go about that fight. You do not want to

540
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 4: give Belaal a whole lot of minutes out there to

541
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: try to figure you out, because you will.

542
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 5: So opening odds Shavkat Rockmanov minus two hundred blow Muhammad

543
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: plus one seventy, And all I was really saying was that,

544
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Speaker 5: depending on how that fight had gone, maybe Rockmanov would

545
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 5: have been minus two forty, right, But certainly a lot

546
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: of people When Daniel Cormier says to however, many people

547
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: are watching, right, Oh, if you're below Muhammed, you know

548
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: you gotta like this result or whatever. But I do

549
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: believe there's a lot of value for Balal and Tom

550
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Speaker 5: Aspinall watching John Jones live, not just watching them on television.

551
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 5: So a television producer might say to you, Kenny, so,

552
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 5: who gets more value from this Rockmanov for the twenty

553
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 5: five minutes or the champion watching him live, right, And

554
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 5: if I was an analyst, right, I'd probably be like,

555
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 5: I don't fucking know there's value both places. Right, you're right,

556
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 5: but it's out to me, like you think Bala Muhammed

557
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: at plus one seventy maybe has some value, so we

558
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 5: can stop it down there. But I do think Shotsky

559
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 5: Rockmanov deserves a whole lot of credit. And there are

560
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 5: some reports that maybe he dealt with a torn or

561
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 5: partial tear and his MCL going into this fight. And

562
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 5: if you did see Alexander Volkov and the two knie sleeves,

563
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 5: he has a messed up me. And this fight was

564
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 5: supposed to happen in UFC three oh eight, and we

565
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 5: acknowledged as much on the broadcast, but he was to

566
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 5: fight Cyril Gun in a rematch UFC threeh eight October

567
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 5: twenty sixth or whatever it was, and he sort of said,

568
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 5: the knee is what it is. You know, he delayed it.

569
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 5: He wasn't gonna pull out, and you know, never one

570
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: hundred percent and when some lose time. I really like

571
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 5: Volkov's attitude. I feel really bad for the guy, and

572
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Speaker 5: I guess probably a good transition point unless you have

573
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: anything else on the the welterweights. Cody's saying that he

574
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 5: feels like Volkov's left knee look buckled the whole time

575
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 5: out of respect. Actually, I didn't ask Volkov which knee

576
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 5: it was in the fighter meeting because he's six seven

577
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: and has a big tattoo on his back. So yeah, yeah,

578
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 5: words like robbery or hosed, or spade or fucking neutered.

579
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: I think Alexander Volkov got hosed. Man. You know, I

580
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 5: don't lead the league in guys who shout robbery, but

581
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Speaker 5: split Decision goes to see it agan in the rematch,

582
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: I thought Alexander Volkov won the fight, and you know,

583
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: Dana White comes to him at the inspection zone and says,

584
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 5: you got fucked. And I'm sure they'll try monetarily to

585
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: do right by Alexander Volkov, even though promotionally it's not

586
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 5: really their job. But yeah, I mean, close rounds, close fight.

587
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 5: I guess I just really feel for Volkov, right, instead

588
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 5: of a five fight winning streak, you know, I mean,

589
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, maybe the UFC has a

590
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 5: way to sort of matchmake otherwise, but this is a

591
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 5: big blow to this big man.

592
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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I think it's easy to get excited during

593
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: a fight, right, and I'm watching it and I'm like, well,

594
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: Volkov should get the nod and I did I miss something?

595
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 4: So I you know, woke up this morning saw the fight.

596
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: Volkoff won the fight, man, I think and listen, there's

597
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: even an argument that he may have won all three rounds,

598
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: like it was that close, you know. And I think

599
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: that Gone certainly had some good moments. But I think

600
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: when we're talking about effective striking and even effective grappling,

601
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: there were some good exchanges for him as well. I

602
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: think he was landing the better shots against God, I

603
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: really do. And as far as on the ground, like

604
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: guys didn't really do anything to them at the end.

605
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: Was at the end of the second when Gon had

606
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: that guillotine or the end of the first, I forget, Yeah,

607
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: he uh, I don't think he was in trouble there.

608
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 4: And if that was the difference of what you know,

609
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: him gave him the round, you know, it wasn't that close.

610
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 4: And a couple of things. First of all, the head,

611
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: like the back of the head needs to be like

612
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: shoved down towards the chest. That position was not there.

613
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: And not to mention. As soon as that break happened,

614
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: Volkov got right back to his feet. When you see

615
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: a guy that is gassed or struggling to get blood

616
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: to his brain, they usually sit on their knees or

617
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: hang out for a little bit for a second or two,

618
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: recompose themselves and stand up. Folkoff got up immediately. It

619
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: was not really an effective submission attack by gon so ah,

620
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: that was tough man well.

621
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Speaker 5: And this is why as a judge you certainly need

622
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: to be able to know what effective grappling is, right,

623
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 5: Because if the two most important criteria are effective striking,

624
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: which my daughter can see more easily than effective grappling, right,

625
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 5: then you need to figure out what effective grappling is.

626
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 5: And I don't think it would hurt to have judges

627
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: have an intimate knowledge of the athletes to know that

628
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: Alexander Volkov is a credentialed Brazilian jiu jitsu brown belt.

629
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 5: Who you know Ezekiel choked a guy last year? Right?

630
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 5: I mean nothing, right like he he knows his way

631
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 5: around a submission, even though he's a six foot seven

632
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 5: inch kickboxer, right, And I yeah, I do think that

633
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 5: what it came down to and I feel like Volkov. Yes,

634
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: I think he lost the round on two of the

635
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 5: three judges scorecards, in which he landed a big spinning backfist.

636
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I feel badly for Alexander Volkov and

637
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 5: I I don't wanna go ahead please, and I was gonna.

638
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: Say and And the worst part about it, You know

639
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: why I feel so bad is, you know, he is

640
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: so much better than we first saw him, dude. Volkov

641
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: has been working his ass off to get better as

642
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: a striker, as a grappler. He put on muscle, this

643
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: was the best he looked physically, and then he goes

644
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: out gives an awesome performance against a tremendous fighter in

645
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: Cyril Gone and then doesn't get the nod. That's one

646
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: of those fights that would have changed the trajectory of

647
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 4: his career at this stage of his game, and he

648
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: didn't get the nod.

649
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: Dude, So certainly it stands to reason that Sielogan's next

650
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 5: fight is not gonna be Tom Aspinall or John Jones.

651
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: Right now, we don't know what's gonna happen with John Jones.

652
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 5: We don't know if indeed John will be a man

653
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 5: of his word if he gets whatever it is twenty

654
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 5: twenty five million dollars to show whatever the number is.

655
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 5: Will he fight Tom Aspital I don't know, but seemingly

656
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 5: that fight could happen. If that fight doesn't happen, it

657
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 5: doesn't seem as though it's going to be Seattle Gone

658
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 5: so promotionally. If indeed UFC CEO Dana White says to Volkov,

659
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 5: you got f't right? Can't they have Volkov fight Tom Aspell?

660
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: I know they fought recently, right did they not? But

661
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: can't you have Volkov just be the beneficiary and match

662
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 5: make him as if he has this five fight winning street.

663
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 5: Can't you do it?

664
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely? Will they do it?

665
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 5: I mean nothing's stopping yet, right, I would say the

666
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 5: most powerful man in mixed martial arts DAYA White, could

667
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 5: find a way. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens, yea.

668
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 5: I do hope that we get an undisputed UFC Heavyweight

669
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 5: Championship fight no later than July thirty first, twenty twenty five.

670
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 5: But uh, I mean, I guess you congratulate Setle Gone.

671
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 5: But he's walking out of the octagon in some part

672
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 5: because he thinks he lost fight, and in some part

673
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 5: because he busted his toe and it did look pretty

674
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 5: mangled from my vantage point, right, but the decision is announced.

675
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 5: And for nand Lopez, who always wears his heart on

676
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 5: his sleeve, right like we were in our fighter meeting,

677
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 5: DC tried to relay this to the audience. See itle gone,

678
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 5: he's suggesting that he lost to John Jones in three minutes.

679
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: And Fernand's like, nah, bro, it's fucking too man. And

680
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 5: see it was like, hey, makem on, it's too you know,

681
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: I'm like about two oh four. So they have a

682
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 5: good relationship. But bro, seatle Gon wins this fight. And

683
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: for nand Lopez in front of the broadcast booth, and

684
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 5: if you're on audio only, I apologize, but I had

685
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 5: my hands over my head for nand Lopez over the

686
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 5: broadcast booth, hands on his head like as if, oh

687
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 5: my gosh, like it almost was a reaction, as if

688
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 5: his guy had dominated and got host and he didn't

689
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 5: know what to do. But it was spcifrically that his

690
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 5: guy had not gotten dominated, but maybe he had lost

691
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 5: and had been awarded the win. And what is Volkov

692
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 5: show versus win money? Dare I ask, gosh, I.

693
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: Don't know, man, but by the way, props to him

694
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: on the corn rows. The Kenny Powers look, the Patty

695
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: Pimblet look was very impressive. I think he needs to

696
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: do that again.

697
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, powerful, all right, thug nasty, thug, filthy. Bryce Mitchell

698
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 5: doing everything right in training with his diet, and he

699
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 5: gets cron Gracy out of there with a great knockout,

700
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 5: the slam the follow up ten flow elbows. So yeah,

701
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: it appeared as kron Gracy partially, you know, concussed himself.

702
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 5: I mean not himself, but the slam, the pulling of guard. Gosh, man,

703
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm gonna mute my mic, clear my

704
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 5: throat and let you just talk about all of this.

705
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: Chron Gracy is a martial artist at this stage of

706
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 5: his career and everything that Bryce Mitchell did well to

707
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 5: make sure that, you know, he became the first man

708
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: here to finish ice Cream Crow.

709
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: How do you not love Bryce Mitchell. I just love

710
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 4: his old attitude of how he goes about the game.

711
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: He clearly was taking this very seriously, and I agree

712
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: with him met like, although he wanted to stay on

713
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 4: the feet and that's where he was going to have

714
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: the big advantage. I think Crone was actually doing a

715
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: great job of initiating those some of those grappling connections

716
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 4: and forcing Bryce to go to the mat with him

717
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: by jumping clothes guard. Now that was the case until

718
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: the very end where he jumped guard, stayed up in

719
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 4: the air and Bryce made a nice slick adjustment put

720
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 4: his form across the job. We've seen this a few

721
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: different times in the UFC specifically, and decided to go, okay,

722
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: now I'm going to go to the ground with you,

723
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: and as he did that, put all of his weight

724
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 4: behind that forearm or elbow and concuss chron gracie because

725
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 4: so you know, it was confusing though for me, because

726
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 4: Crone was talking about how maybe he succumbed to some

727
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 4: pressure from the jiu jitsu community or the people around

728
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: him that he should fight more of a jiu jitsu

729
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: style and how it was the worst performance of his

730
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 4: life and then proceeds to do the exact same thing

731
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: here against Bryce Mitchell. So I was a little confused

732
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 4: as to what he was doing and why he was

733
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 4: doing it. It's really really difficult man to submit another

734
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt or any decent grappler in

735
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four in the UFC from close Guard.

736
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 5: So the armbar right, the close nature of it or not,

737
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 5: I don't know, but Bryce Mitchell did acknowledge it. And

738
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna play Devil's advocate for a second, and

739
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 5: that's all I'm really doing because I do agree with you,

740
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 5: because I think there's so many unknowns when it comes

741
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 5: to Chron Gracie. I would imagine, you know, as someone

742
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 5: who has quoted Ryan Hall, that even over a lifetime

743
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 5: as a martial artist, for Ryan Hall, he has spent

744
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 5: more time striking, more striking repetitions and training and everything

745
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: else than Chrome Gracy. But I don't know what Chron

746
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 5: Gracie is doing. What he was doing in Montana during

747
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 5: the global pandemic, what he's been doing in Las Vegas,

748
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 5: whatever else. I don't really know. But how close did

749
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 5: he come to catching an arm bar on the number

750
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 5: thirteen guy in the world. Because to those like Chael

751
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 5: Son and others maybe you and me who would submit, like, dude,

752
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 5: this style is just not going to get it done

753
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four in the UFC, you know, I

754
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 5: just feel like the submission danger is so real. The

755
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 5: threat is so real, even with the closing of guard.

756
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: That like, what happens if he catches Bryce Mitchell in

757
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 5: this fucking arm bar, You know what happens. Now, he's

758
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: number thirteen in the world and there are a lot

759
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 5: of guys in that top fifteen that cannot defend him

760
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 5: the way Bryce Mitchell can. So if you get to

761
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 5: the ground one time, you know, But I'm looking at

762
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 5: Sean Shelby and other sort of you know, I think

763
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: a little bit frustrated with.

764
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: Crow absolutely man, and this is where it gets a

765
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: little complicated, But I would say this, you know, the

766
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: reason why you were right actually is because despite you know,

767
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 4: all the skills that he has or doesn't have, his

768
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: best chance of winning this fight was taking it to

769
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: the ground. And he doesn't have the highly developed wrestling skill.

770
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: He doesn't have the highly developed stand up skills either,

771
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 4: So why wouldn't you give your chance, you know, give

772
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: yourself the best chance of winning the fight and kind

773
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: of jump guard. Now, it wasn't the best way to

774
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: go about it, and it's gonna be a very extremely

775
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 4: difficult way to go about it, but that honestly may

776
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 4: have been his best chance of winning the fight. And

777
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 4: you know, maybe it's further, you know, rendered like correct

778
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: by the fact that he almost got that arm bar.

779
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 4: Now he was in the position for it. Bryce was

780
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 4: able to frame on the inside of one of those legs,

781
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: and while it was tight for maybe a second, I

782
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 4: don't think it was a huge threat or as much

783
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 4: of a threat as people fought. Bryce did a great

784
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 4: job countering it. Cron did a great job attacking it.

785
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 4: But that was it. It was just like that one

786
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: moment out of all of those minutes inside there that

787
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: he was effective against Bryce Mitchell. And you know, it's

788
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: just not a style that's going to work in modern

789
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 4: mixed martial arts, not certainly at the highest level of

790
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 4: the UFC.

791
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 5: Right well, and he paid a dear price obviously getting concussed.

792
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: I just do find it an interesting conversation when it

793
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 5: comes to chrome because as a commentator, I'm thinking, man,

794
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 5: you know, seemingly this is just trying to create one

795
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: or two fight ending opportunities. And I don't have to

796
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 5: tell you how good he is at, you know, getting

797
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 5: that done. But yeah, I mean you got to congratulate

798
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 5: Bryce Mitchell. And one thing Chill Send and Son and

799
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 5: said on the post fight show Kenny was that someone

800
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 5: needs to tell Bryce Mitchell that he's, you know, better

801
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 5: than he thinks he is. So what do you think

802
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: overall about Bryce Mitchell and his relative ceiling and what's

803
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: a pretty ruthless featherweight division.

804
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 4: Well, I think he's maturing as a fighter both inside

805
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: and outside the Octagone. One of the greatest things I

806
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: heard him say, and this was an approach that I

807
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: took a little bit later on my career as well,

808
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: was you know the fact that I don't want to

809
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: get too high on my wins and I want to

810
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: get too low when I lose. And I think this

811
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: is a guy that is showing a lot of maturation

812
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: as a man and that has learned a lot from

813
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 4: you know, his past experiences in the UFC. I think

814
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: he's really working hard to approach the game in a

815
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: more professional manner. And you know, I think defensively he

816
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 4: showed that he is trying to improve that aspect as well.

817
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: You know, when you're when you're in there against guys

818
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: like Tolporia, Josh Emmett, you realize, hey, you know, this

819
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 4: is what the elite is all about, and I need

820
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 4: to get better. And I think he's making an honest

821
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: attempt at tried to do that. So he's getting better

822
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 4: and I think he's a guy that is going to

823
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 4: continue to climb up the rankings.

824
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 5: A lot of big fights await though, nasty Bryce Mitchell

825
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 5: after what he was able to do this weekend, and

826
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: maybe the Korean superboy Duho Choi is going to find

827
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 5: himself in the Featherway top fifteen at some point in time.

828
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 5: Kenny look like a top fifteen fighter to me, and

829
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 5: getting past Nate Land where to kick off the pay

830
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 5: per view can flow your thoughts on the maturation of

831
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: the Korean superboy Duo Chol, who made his UFC debut

832
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 5: in twenty fourteen at twenty three and now thirty three.

833
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 5: Man gosh, just watching him sort of manage distance in

834
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 5: and out this fucking dart and Corina knocking goddamn head off.

835
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: John.

836
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 4: What's the age where we stopped referring to kid like

837
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: fighters as kids or boys or you know what I mean?

838
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: Like your I favor was the color of California. Kid,

839
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 4: he was forty years old, you know, du hoo toy,

840
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 4: he's thirty three. He's no longer the boy anymore? Can

841
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: we call him the man?

842
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 5: I don't know anyway, Wonderboy's hair is whiter than this exactly.

843
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 4: This is what I'm okay. So this kid, okay, this

844
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 4: guy uh is an amazing striker. You know. He he

845
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: looked like a Korean version of Topuria. Dude, like his

846
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: striking was sharp as f you know, just the way

847
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 4: he was putting together combinations, the amount of strikes he

848
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: was pairing together in his combinations, the sharpness, the accuracy,

849
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 4: the speed he looked on point, dude, he looked like

850
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: an absolute sniper. And it there was a point where

851
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: it seemed like every time he threw, he was landing

852
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 4: on Nate Land where and now now landwere isn't necessarily

853
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: known for his defensive skills, however, not a whole lot

854
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: of guys can do that against someone like Nate consistently.

855
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: And then there's the whole grappling aspect of it, where

856
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: you could tell this guy has been working extremely hard

857
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: on his grappling skills, Simmer to Volkov, he has realized, Okay,

858
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: I can't go in there and just be good enough

859
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: out there in the UFC, or just be satisfied with

860
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 4: being a very good striker. I need to be a

861
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: all round mixed martial artist and he has done that, dude.

862
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: His foot trips, his takedowns, his defensive wrestling skills, his

863
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 4: positional skills on the ground, this may have been the

864
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: most complete and well aside from maybe Pantoja, this was

865
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: maybe the most impressive and complete performance of the night.

866
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 5: So Joe Rogan asked to jo Choi about the grappling

867
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 5: in his post fight interview and duhote choice sort of

868
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 5: dead pan, like, yeah, I've been in the UFC ten years.

869
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 5: I better be good at grappling at this point in time.

870
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm just fascinated to see what the matchmakers

871
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 5: do with du Hoo Choi. And our producer Cody Merrow

872
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 5: writes in the chat, Duhoe Choi looks like a boy though,

873
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 5: and it is true he still does look like a boy,

874
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 5: but go watch some of that early footage back then

875
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: he looks like a teenager. So Cody also wrote something

876
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 5: in the chat here about Nate the train land where

877
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 5: and I don't know if you're looking for him to

878
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 5: come to New Hampshire and take your life, but I

879
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 5: disagree with it. So I will bring it to the masses.

880
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 5: And I know Cody at six foot three inches all

881
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: believes in himself, so he's actually closer to six to two.

882
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 5: All right, So Cody wrote Nate Land, where is that

883
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: chick who talks a big game but dead fish in bed?

884
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: So he go find you, bro?

885
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 5: Uh So yeah, I mean I think the Clarksville, Tennessee

886
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 5: product Nate the train Land where is better than Cody

887
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: Merrow is letting on? But uh yeah, I think he's

888
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 5: pretty disappointed with this. You know, I think he expected

889
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 5: to be far more competitive against Duho Cho. Do you

890
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 5: have anything for us Nate in terms of what he

891
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: might need to do, because you know, obviously now it's

892
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 5: losses and two of his last three and that's not

893
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 5: all he's looking for.

894
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: No, you know, his toughness again is just so damn impressive.

895
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: This guy is extremely durable, but you can only go

896
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: so far, like you do not want to send It's

897
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: almost more dangerous to send in a fighter who was

898
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 4: courageous and has a good chin, because all it's going

899
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: to do is destroy their brain. And I mean that

900
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 4: respectfully for Nate, who I think has a lot of

901
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 4: potential as an athlete as well. So what does he

902
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: need to do? Just get better defensively? More technical moving

903
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 4: your feet, utilizing you know, that head movement to get

904
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 4: in and get out safely, being more of a sniper

905
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: getting in without taking damage and knowing how to get

906
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 4: to a clinch safely, and just being a little bit

907
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 4: more precise and more technical with his take down ability.

908
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 4: And if he was able to do that, he have

909
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 4: had a lot more success here against Duho Choi. But

910
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 4: you know, this is a guy in Duho Choi we

911
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 4: don't see very often, and that's why it's a lot

912
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: of time, you know, very difficult a lot of times

913
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: to know how good a fighter is gonna be if

914
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 4: you're not seeing them on a regular basis, because you

915
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 4: can make a tremendous amount of improvements if you're able

916
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 4: to go away for a year or so and come back,

917
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: you could be a completely different fighter. And that's what

918
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 4: we saw with Choi. But again for Nate, I think

919
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 4: he needs to do that, take some time off and

920
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 4: just work on being a better all around mixed martial artists.

921
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 4: If he does that, I think he's gonna have a

922
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: heck of a lot more success because he's got the

923
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: work ethic, he's got the toughness, no question about that,

924
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, he just needs the time.

925
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 5: Well, and you also said not just the work ethic

926
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: and the toughness, but what you led with was that

927
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: you think he's a good enough athlete, right, Like, this

928
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: is exactly been there, dude. He went to college on

929
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: a track scholarship. Eight hundred meters. Oh is that half

930
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 5: a mile? Is that it's half a mile?

931
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: It's two lapsits, Yeah, exactly, it's It's one of the

932
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 4: more brutal races in track and field, like I used

933
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: to do those, and dude, my heart just like Bump's

934
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 4: just thinking about it. So you know, obviously it's why

935
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 4: he's so well conditioned for sure.

936
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: Dude.

937
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 5: Imagine fucking Nate the train, fucking chew chew right running

938
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 5: sprinting the eight hundred meters in a fucking singlet or

939
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 5: whatever they wear.

940
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 4: Cody, He's coming for you, bro, he gonna find you. Yeah,

941
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 4: you can't run away.

942
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wish I had my Nate land War notes.

943
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 5: I want to can I just real quickly go get him.

944
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna actually ask you a question so that for

945
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 5: the audio people they won't notice anything. I'm gonna ask

946
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 5: you a question. No, I can't ask you that right now.

947
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 5: So Vicente Luke. By the way, Kenny, you need to

948
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 5: talk about cars with this guy, because when he was

949
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 5: going to be fighting Nick Diez, my twin brother Jay

950
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 5: was interviewing Luke for the u FC, just in sort

951
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 5: of a producer role. And Luke loves fast cars. I

952
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: think he rebuilt like the first car he ever had.

953
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 5: And yeah, I saw him driving a Ferrari. It actually

954
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: made me want a Ferrari for the first time since

955
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 5: I was seventeen. I'm trying to think where my Nate

956
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 5: land where notes are. But what I'm really going to

957
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 5: do is just try to remember some of these quotes.

958
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 5: But you know, he's just sort of talking about you

959
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: know that man in the basement, don't come out. You

960
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 5: know that man in the basement available come out anytime?

961
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 5: You know Larsville, Tennessee on a UFC map.

962
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: He's another guy that's very very likable.

963
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: Man.

964
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 5: Oh he's the man. I remember he came up to

965
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 5: me at one point he was like, hey, man, you know,

966
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 5: I know it's Nate Land where, but you know, in

967
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 5: terms of the broadcast, like I want to be clear

968
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 5: what we're trying to brand here, it's Nate the train.

969
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 5: It's all right, my man, it is Nate the train.

970
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 5: And also at the end of our fighter meeting, says

971
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 5: to me in DC and I did relay this on

972
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 5: the broadcast. I don't know if you heard it, but

973
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 5: he was like, Hey, it's always good to see you guys,

974
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 5: But but I am looking forward to to maybe getting

975
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 5: a chance to t to Joe Rogan in that Octica

976
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 5: did not get that opportunity courtesy of the Korean superboy

977
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 5: Duo Choi, who I think is going to be a

978
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: lot of guys in that Featherway top fifteen. All right

979
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: at this point long ago, twenty two minutes later than

980
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 5: his scheduled arrival. So we will proceed onto the prelims

981
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: before we bring in Ray into the conversation. And his

982
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 5: fighters twice competed on the prelim portion, so it's probably

983
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 5: a good time to bring Ray on in the not

984
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 5: too distant future. But the featured prelim was Dominic Rayis

985
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 5: over Anthony lyonheart Smith and I don't really know how

986
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 5: to contextualize this. Cody, there's no fucking rush. We can

987
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 5: put him on the back end of the show. In

988
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 5: terms of Dominic Rayis, I'm not really sure how to

989
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 5: contextualize this, Kenny, because he gets the TKO over Anthony Lyonheartsmith,

990
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 5: and inevitably we're going to spend more time talking about

991
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 5: Anthony Lyonhartsmith, who was competing without his best friend and mentor,

992
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: and I don't even know how he did it. But

993
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 5: for Dominic Reyis, Kenny, this is a second straight win.

994
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 5: He finished his Dustin Jacoby in two minutes with a

995
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: whole lot of style points, and he does exactly what

996
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 5: he needs to do here and really busted up Anthony

997
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 5: lionheart Smith, even though that man just refuses to cut open.

998
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 5: So I guess in terms of rays if I could, right,

999
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 5: is there anything that you've seen now in these relatively

1000
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 5: quick fights. This was a little bit longer at least

1001
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 5: the stools were required here. But I wonder aloud if

1002
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 5: dominic Reyis might get fast tracked a little bit because

1003
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 5: of how close his fight with John Jones was and

1004
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 5: because of the nature of the adversity in some of

1005
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 5: those crazy knockout losses to the likes of Uri Prohosco. Right,

1006
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 5: so what do you think about Dominic Reyis in terms

1007
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 5: of contendership?

1008
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would probably want to see him get one

1009
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 4: more in. I think that defensively he was a little

1010
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 4: susceptible to get encountered at times. He was taking some

1011
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 4: shots back, but largely was really really dominant against Anthony Smith.

1012
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 4: And he definitely has the firepower. I mean, he's always

1013
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: had that where if he lands, you are going to

1014
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: get hurt. And I also love the fact that he's

1015
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: integrating more kicks as well, and that was good to see.

1016
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 4: So this is a guy in Reyes who continues to improve,

1017
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 4: wants to get better, wants to be the martial artist

1018
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: out there, and had a really good performance. And you know, again,

1019
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 4: Anthony Smith not in the best spirits or best form

1020
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: in this fight, but it's understandable why.

1021
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 5: So I don't know how much of our audience watched

1022
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 5: the post fight show or heard us last week talking

1023
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 5: about exactly what happened, And I don't know how much

1024
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 5: our audience wants us to dig deep on this. It

1025
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 5: really is sad. Scott Morton cornered Anthony Smith in fifty

1026
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 5: seven of his fifty eight pro fights before this one,

1027
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: But that's really the least of the concern when it

1028
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 5: comes to their relationship, right, far more personal than professional

1029
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 5: best friends. This was his mentor, and he just doesn't

1030
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 5: seemingly want to like live his life without Scott in it.

1031
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 5: Thank God for the presence of Anthony Smith's children, whom

1032
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 5: he wanted close on this night, or who knows what

1033
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 5: Anthony Smith would have done to try to damage himself,

1034
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 5: because going in there, Kenny like he wanted to get

1035
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 5: punched in the face. And you know, part of me

1036
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 5: wishes he just didn't take the fight and he allowed

1037
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 5: me to, you know, just punch him in the face

1038
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 5: or something. But he was wanting to, you know, feel

1039
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 5: pain because nothing could you know, be deeper than the

1040
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 5: pain that he was already experiencing. And you know, I've

1041
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 5: never seen a fighter overcome by that type of emotion

1042
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 5: that I can recall in the inspection zone. I'm sure

1043
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 5: there have been similar ones, fighters losing a parent or

1044
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 5: a sibling or something. Cody Staman when he lost his

1045
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 5: brother and competed, but it wasn't so soon thereafter, actually

1046
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 5: maybe it was, I don't know. Stamon's the only one

1047
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 5: that comes to mind. Kenny really said.

1048
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's extremely difficult. You know, I lost one of

1049
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: my mentors, one of my training partners during my fight career,

1050
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 4: not you know, that quick of a turnaround or anything

1051
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 4: like that, and it's not an easy thing.

1052
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1053
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 4: I also didn't have have that long relationship like Anthony

1054
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 4: Smith that has did as well, where it's much more

1055
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: than just coach, training, partner mentor and that that has

1056
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 4: got to be really, really difficult. And I think this

1057
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 4: is where you know, and I've certainly made this mistake

1058
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 4: as a fighter, where your toughness ends up being your

1059
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 4: worst enemy, or your willingness or your courage or your

1060
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 4: willingness to want to compete ends up kind of coming

1061
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 4: back to bite you. And it's tough because you don't

1062
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: want to be that guy that all of a sudden

1063
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 4: drops out of a fight. But at the same time,

1064
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 4: you want to bring your best performance, you want to

1065
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: put your best foot forward. And for Anthony we've seen

1066
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 4: this a few times with him, whether it's injuries or

1067
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 4: other things that have gone on outside the cage. And

1068
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 4: it's tough because you know, Anthony Smith probably should have

1069
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 4: a much better record than what it says right now,

1070
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: and you know, he's a guy with a lot of skills,

1071
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 4: a lot of toughness, but has also had a lot

1072
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: of bad luck out there as well. So that was

1073
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 4: hard because Anthony Smith is a really good dude when

1074
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 4: you talk to him, when you meet him, he's one

1075
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 4: of the nicest guys in the sport, and you know

1076
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: he's had a run of a lot of bad luck.

1077
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 5: So Cody Stamen. It was actually even shorter a turnaround,

1078
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 5: so to speak. His younger brother passed away May twenty seventh,

1079
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 5: and then he fought on June sixth. Then he did win.

1080
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 5: He'd beat Brian kellerher by decision. Anthony Smith was with

1081
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 5: us for our ESPN coverage in New York when he

1082
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 5: found out that Scott didn't, you know, wake up. This

1083
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 5: was totally unexpected, and Anthony Smith left and flew home

1084
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 5: and still chose to compete. And for a guy who

1085
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 5: has almost sixty pro fights, I do think he is

1086
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 5: once the fight starts, able to compartmentalize it. And I

1087
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 5: think a lot of fights for him feel maybe like

1088
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 5: training sessions. He's just not fearful of what's going to

1089
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 5: happen in there. And I think this was as fearless

1090
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 5: as he has ever been in there, almost just in

1091
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 5: some part enjoying the prolonged nature of the ground and

1092
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 5: pound and just very disturbing overall. And you know, I'm

1093
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 5: a paid analyst on the Post Fight Show and Anthony

1094
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 5: Smith is one of my best friends in MMA, and

1095
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 5: I do hope to get the chance to call fights

1096
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 5: with him one day. But there is a monetary component

1097
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 5: to this, and fighters do have their oftentimes biggest paydays

1098
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 5: at the end of their careers, and I do think

1099
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 5: that's a part of this as well. To make the

1100
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 5: walk and you know, feel like you can win the

1101
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 5: fight to whatever degree. But I do believe that you're

1102
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 5: right in terms of the ledger and the record. It

1103
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 5: could be better if Anthony Smith was wholly focused on

1104
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 5: contention or winning at times. But we congratulate Don Reyes

1105
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 5: will see what happens from here. Did you see Vicente

1106
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 5: Luke turn in the fastest a conda in the history

1107
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 5: of the Yusi's welchterweight division? Actually, maybe I mean Yoshi

1108
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 5: Yuki Yoshi I believe was a welterweight as well. I

1109
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 5: don't know if that's the fastest anaconda in UFC history,

1110
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 5: but certainly the fast and the welchweight division.

1111
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: Dude.

1112
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 5: How about the Silent Assassin man?

1113
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 4: Dude, what a killer you know, and I figured if

1114
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 4: he was able to get this fight to the ground,

1115
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 4: he was definitely going to be the more dangerous and

1116
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 4: better grappler against Grimbo. But he landed the shot on

1117
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 4: the feet. He was you know, the reason he got

1118
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 4: him on the ground was he landed a beautiful countershot

1119
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: as Garimba was coming forward. And you know, Garimba seemed

1120
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: to be the faster guy on the feet. You know,

1121
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people expected that he seemed

1122
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: to be the better guy overall on the feet, but

1123
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: Luke was the one who landed the better shot, dropped

1124
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 4: him and just pounced on that neck. Has one of

1125
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 4: the best front chokes in the game. Uh. And again

1126
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: talk about one of the nicest guys in the sport, Vincente.

1127
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 4: Luke is certainly that able to get a win. And uh,

1128
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: maybe put that towards another Ferrari John.

1129
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, how much is a Ferrari, Kenny? I mean,

1130
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 5: I know it's a broad question.

1131
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it depends. But right now, you know, like

1132
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 4: the high end Ferraris are are going for a lot

1133
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 4: and continue to kind of go up there like these

1134
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: investment cars. So I would say you're you're looking at

1135
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 4: like a cheap Ferrari right now, would be like two

1136
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty to two hundred and eighty thousand dollars

1137
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: something like that, maybe two twenty five depending on what

1138
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 4: you're getting, but you're looking at least two hundred thousand.

1139
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 4: Let's put it down here.

1140
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, should I sell some bitcoin and get it?

1141
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: No?

1142
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no do that.

1143
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 5: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, all.

1144
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 4: Right, Moby sor and then by like five Ferraris in

1145
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: like five years.

1146
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1147
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 5: There you go, the underappreciated mov saw Ivloyev gets past

1148
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 5: Algemain Sterling by unanimous decision, finish this fight in fine

1149
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 5: fedal and that was enough to get it done. I

1150
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 5: was fascinated by this fight, you know, movsorryv Loye ken Flo.

1151
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: I don't know if you heard me say on the broadcast,

1152
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 5: no championship in the UFC, no sugar and man, he

1153
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 5: looks like he hasn't been, you know, eating sugar cubes

1154
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 5: on the side. My goodness, what do you have for

1155
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 5: us on Ivloye of an Alga.

1156
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he's had a carb since he

1157
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 4: was like two he looked to be in an extremely

1158
00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: impressive condition. My goodness, lean lean, lean, lean, and looked

1159
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: really really good. Some of those wrestling scrambles, dude, I've

1160
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 4: loved watching that fight. Al Jo had a hell of

1161
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 4: a fight and if Looyev certainly had a hell of

1162
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: a fight. And to me, it came down to who

1163
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 4: was giving up inside position and al Jo was giving

1164
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 4: up inside position, that space between arm pit and hip,

1165
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 4: which is the most valuable real estate as a grappler.

1166
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 4: If you want it and it's available, you take it.

1167
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 4: And that's what if Loyev was doing. He was winning.

1168
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 4: That's why the underhook game. Domina Cruz talks about the

1169
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 4: underhas all the time. Why because that's the real estate

1170
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 4: you want, That's how you control the body. And that

1171
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 4: was the difference on some of those scrambles where if

1172
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 4: Loyev was coming out on top and controlling al Joe,

1173
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 4: where he was able to win that fight. And again

1174
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 4: that was another one that was really really close. Aljo

1175
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 4: was like just seconds away, maybe a minute away from

1176
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 4: winning in round three, gave up his back and I

1177
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: think that was the difference there. But I really enjoyed

1178
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 4: the heck out of that fight. Aljo, similar to Ian Gary,

1179
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: proved himself to be elite in the one hundred and

1180
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 4: forty five pound division. I know a lot of people

1181
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 4: figured that, but to do what he did against Ivloyev

1182
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 4: and to have that much success against a elite rapper

1183
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: like of Vloyev on the wrestling game, I thought was

1184
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 4: really fun to watch. It was awesome. Aljiel will come

1185
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 4: back stronger from this. But Ivloyev he sold me. Now

1186
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 4: he's the real deal and he's gonna be a guy

1187
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 4: that's gonna fight for the bell. That was really impressed

1188
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: with his toughness and his conditioning.

1189
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 5: Nicely analyzed can flow as usual, appreciate everybody joining us

1190
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 5: on this live episode of the Anaconflorment podcast. We are

1191
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 5: one hour in. We have Brian Petrie coming up. In

1192
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 5: about five minutes, we will get you predictions UFC Fight

1193
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 5: Night Covington v. Buckley, and then we will talk to

1194
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 5: the great Ray Longo on the back end of the

1195
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 5: program as we circle back to UFC three ten and

1196
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 5: get to some other things. Kenny in terms of some

1197
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 5: of these fighters who maybe are either in the twilight

1198
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 5: of their careers or potentially on the way out Dana

1199
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 5: White at this point has called for Clay Guida, who

1200
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 5: lost to Chase Hooper, Chris Wiman who lost to Eric Anders,

1201
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 5: and Anthony Smith, who lost to Dominic Rays to retire.

1202
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 5: I was asked on the Post Fight Show about Chris Wiman,

1203
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 5: and I'm never in the business of retiring fighters. And

1204
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 5: part of the issue, of course, is what I mentioned earlier,

1205
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 5: that the biggest paydays oftentimes come at the end of careers, right. Like,

1206
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 5: I know, it's hard to compare other sports because when

1207
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 5: I talk about Major League Baseball and the veteran's minimum

1208
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 5: is millions of dollars at the end of the career, right,

1209
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 5: But oftentimes in other sports, in the NFL and Major

1210
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 5: League Baseball, in the NBA, you're making the veteran minimum

1211
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 5: in the last year of your career. So your worst

1212
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 5: payday is your last year, whereas as a fighter, your

1213
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 5: last fight is your biggest payday. So anything for us

1214
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 5: on those three individuals and what you think maybe they

1215
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 5: should do at this stage of their respective careers.

1216
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough. I think anytime you get to the

1217
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 4: point where you don't want to be in there, that's

1218
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 4: where you really have to start asking yourself some serious questions.

1219
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 4: Should I continue to fight, because you know, it's not

1220
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 4: like you know, for everyone who has the you know,

1221
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 4: your regular typical job, you got to go into work,

1222
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 4: you got to go into the office, and not everyone

1223
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 4: wants to be at work all the time.

1224
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: Right.

1225
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: If you're not feeling great and you don't want to

1226
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 4: be in there, well you get beat up. Your brain's

1227
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 4: gonna take that damage. And I think that it's hard

1228
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 4: to tell, you know, with someone like Chris, for example,

1229
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 4: was it an injury of why he was kind of

1230
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 4: not doing what he should have done, or or did

1231
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 4: he not want to be in there or at a

1232
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 4: certain point, I'm not sure. Only Chris can kind of

1233
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 4: answer that question. But if you're if you find yourself

1234
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: in a UFC fight and you find that you don't

1235
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 4: want to be in there anymore, I think that's where

1236
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 4: you should probably hang up the gloves. So I don't

1237
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 4: know Claig Geda, I think he's just he's not making

1238
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 4: the improvements that he needs to make at this stage,

1239
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 4: Like he's just been the same fighter and he will

1240
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 4: just get continually fed to younger, better fighters. And I'm

1241
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 4: not sure if like that's that wouldn't be my approach

1242
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,479
Speaker 4: to the game. I wouldn't want to be that guy.

1243
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 4: But you know, Clay still enjoys the heck out of

1244
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 4: what he's doing in loves all Right, So you know

1245
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 4: we're talking about a couple different cases.

1246
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 5: Maybe you know, but Clake Weeda can't realize the payday

1247
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 5: in the UFC anywhere else in the world. I don't believe. Right,

1248
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 5: Claig Weeda, whom we both absolutely love as human being

1249
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 5: and fighter, he could have two fights go into the

1250
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 5: UFC Hall of Fame, but he's eighteen and nineteen in

1251
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 5: the UFC. This was though his first three fight skin

1252
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 5: in the UFC. Anytime he had lost two in a row,

1253
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 5: he had always responded in kind. I don't know what

1254
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 5: his show money is, but he's still in shape. He

1255
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 5: still wants to be in there, And again we should

1256
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 5: probably spend more time talking about the bonus winner, Chase Hooper,

1257
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 5: which is an incredible story, right, But yeah, Gwida still

1258
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 5: wants to be in there. But like for me, okay,

1259
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 5: like my approval rating is probably the highest in Australia

1260
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 5: of anywhere in the world, right, but I don't want

1261
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 5: to fly there from South Florida. I don't want to

1262
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 5: go to Perth because it's a thirty eight hour itinerary,

1263
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 5: but I'm going there for my children, you know, I'm

1264
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 5: going there for my kids. I'm not going there because

1265
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 5: I want to call the pay per view for my ego.

1266
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 5: I'm going there for my children. Right, And Chris Wyman

1267
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 5: and Anthony Smith, I think they both still want to

1268
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 5: be in there too, But I also think they're fighting

1269
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 5: because their prize fighting as well, and they're fighting for

1270
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 5: their family and maybe they can't realize that payday anywhere else,

1271
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 5: even if both of them have maybe broadcasting aspirations and

1272
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 5: a ton of ability.

1273
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 4: So that is true, and it's also you know, not

1274
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,479
Speaker 4: everyone has the ability to go out and do something else.

1275
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 4: You know, so if you are trying to maximize how

1276
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Speaker 4: much money you can make in your career, then you

1277
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Speaker 4: know that may take precedence over other things like saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go out there and put out my

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Speaker 4: best performance and do and do that and and you know,

1280
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 4: keep the best record that I can my career. You know,

1281
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 4: everyone's everyone's motivations are gonna be different for sure.

1282
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 5: All right, congratulations to the African Savage Kennedy is Zecha

1283
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 5: Kup winning a bonus for that outstanding right hand that

1284
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 5: filled Lucas Jeski. Chase Hooper winning a bonus as well. Dude,

1285
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 5: how about fucking Chase Hooper before we get to VP.

1286
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Speaker 5: I mean, what else can you say about this kid?

1287
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 5: Really a lightweight worth keeping an eye on. Joshua Van

1288
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Speaker 5: just outstanding in the flyweight division. Pantosia got a bonus,

1289
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Speaker 5: as did Vicente Luke More on UFC three ten coming up,

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Speaker 5: coming up later in the program. The Anekmplorent Podcast is

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Speaker 5: presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The crown is yours all right.

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Speaker 5: Time for the main event challenge UFC Finite Covington versus Buckley,

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01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 5: our final main event challenge of the year. As we

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Speaker 5: welcome in Big Gun Brian Petrie Pp. Appreciate you being

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Speaker 5: here early, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm good, buddy, I'm real good. Last one of

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Speaker 3: the year. Man, I'm in the plus money, so I'm

1298
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Speaker 3: a happy man.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know if you had to change your

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01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 5: work schedule to be here early, did you, Yes, yes,

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01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 5: thank you for doing that, so you know you can

1302
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 5: tell me. I mean, I did send this out months

1303
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 5: in advance and tried to flag it in case you

1304
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 5: could do that. You can always tell me that. But

1305
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 5: here you are not only changing your work schedule and

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01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 5: showing up early. And this is not a bit. I'm

1307
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 5: not trying to be funny, but long go's telling us

1308
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 5: he'll try, right, And then I'm told he at ten

1309
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 5: forty that he's going to be there in three minutes,

1310
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 5: and now it's eleven oh eight, we're live and he's

1311
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 5: nowhere to be found. So maybe I didn't need to

1312
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 5: throw him under the bus to acknowledge and appreciate you.

1313
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 5: But thanks for changing your work schedule for the show, Brian.

1314
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a busy time in my business. But

1315
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,919
Speaker 3: I've been there eighteen years. I have a little credibility,

1316
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 3: a little flexibility. If I need a day, if I

1317
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: need oh jeez, Mike, just be if I need a day,

1318
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 3: if I need an hour, we're good.

1319
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Speaker 5: So I'm all right just letting you know that if

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01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 5: that's ever an issue, don't be afraid to, you know,

1321
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 5: pull out your swinging Johnson and tell me to go

1322
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 5: fuck off.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not the cleanest episode in the history of

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01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 5: the show. I am exceedingly up. You're just going to

1326
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 5: have to take it all right. So if I were

1327
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 5: to give you like thirty seconds on UFC three ten

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01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 5: before we get into this stuff, would you use it

1329
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 5: on Pantosia or Shavcut or my guy Joshua Van the Fearless.

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01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 5: Where you're going with your thirty seconds?

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01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: Man, that's tough. I would want to cover all of

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01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: this shop Cut apparently towards mcl he looked great. I

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01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: love the way Ian Gary has handled the loss as well. Arrogant,

1334
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 3: brassful guy, but he's not pouting like other people has.

1335
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: He's handled like pure class. And pantosiare going like, oh cool,

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 3: bring over another champion. That's fine, I'll fucking run through them.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable by Pantosi, your confidence all week. I love the

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01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 3: shaved Dome. And there is a killer right against another killer.

1339
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 3: I mean, don't get it wrong. Asci Corra is legit.

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01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 3: He's got plenty of UFC wins. Well, Pantosia is on

1341
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 3: another playing field, and I really hope he gets the

1342
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 3: respect he deserves because that's that's a poundful pound fighter

1343
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 3: right there. Top five, top two, top three. You can

1344
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 3: get arguments.

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01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, time permitting Kenny out close out the show today

1346
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 5: as we put sort of a kicker on it with

1347
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 5: our top five pound for pound fighters in this morning,

1348
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 5: and let us just all get down on one knee

1349
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 5: and pray that Pantosa's haircut is not a precursor to

1350
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 5: a trip to Turkey for a new hairline like everybody

1351
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 5: else in the free fucking mma world, right, my gosh.

1352
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 4: Do it.

1353
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: I had a buddy that did it, and it's reasonably priced.

1354
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 3: They pay for your flight, hotel, procedure like four days.

1355
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 3: It's like twenty five hundred bucks. That's not bad. And

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01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a pretty good deal. And he went

1357
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 3: to like a there's a bunch of clinics over. He

1358
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 3: went to an exteine clinic. He did a bunch of research.

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01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 3: Twenty five hundred bucks with a flight over, their flight back,

1360
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 3: hotel for four nights. That's not bad. You only got

1361
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: to cover your food.

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Speaker 4: I might be visiting Turkey soon, Hey, Kefalo, Kenny, your

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 4: your mom andez her dad.

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 5: Right, what was his hair like at the end of

1365
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 5: his life? Yeah, you might be going to Turkey.

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Speaker 4: Ken, gonna go, dude, my dad still has got all

1367
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 4: has all his hair, he said, like what eighty six

1368
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 4: or something like that. So, uh yeah, but it's supposed

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Speaker 4: to come from your mom's that's right.

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Speaker 5: Dad, My dad, My mom's dad had a uh had

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Speaker 5: a full head of white lettuce. And as many people know,

1372
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Speaker 5: I am covered in hair. You know who's in Turkey

1373
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 5: light heavyweight Ebo Ocelon? Who is over there?

1374
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 3: Okay, a huge star?

1375
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 5: Yeah uh no. But so, Kenny, what do you think

1376
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 5: there is there's not a zero percent chance potentially that

1377
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 5: you would you ever do a hair transplant. I'm not

1378
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 5: trying to put you on the spot, no.

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Speaker 4: Zero, not a zero percent. I'm doing I'm exaggerating, but

1380
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 4: I do you know, my forehead has turned into a

1381
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 4: little bit of a five head, so who knows, We'll see.

1382
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 4: I'm okay for now, but I wouldn't mind some some

1383
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 4: extra hair on my forehead a little bit, you know.

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01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 5: Let's just hope Bride that Pantosia was trying to look

1385
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 5: tough for the fight and it works, the new haircut.

1386
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 5: But I actually, now that I think about it, I'm

1387
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 5: a betting man. It looks good to see him on

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01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 5: Instagram at like new hairline in Turkey, like next week, Man.

1389
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Speaker 3: Does he have a bad hairline though, is it back?

1390
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Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't have had anything for you on his

1391
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 5: hairline until I saw him shave his head. And yeah,

1392
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 5: it seems like I'm going back a little bit. You're

1393
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 5: asking the question, and I mean.

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Speaker 3: He did rock like like a shaggy style for a while,

1395
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 3: so maybe you're right. Maybe it's a precursor. Maybe he

1396
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 3: wants that shag back. You know, I don't know.

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01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 4: He's prepping the skull for turkey. Yeah, yeah, it's not

1398
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 4: too bad. And I love how we're just speculating on that.

1399
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, No, I mean as his MMA game continues

1400
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 5: to thicken and round out, it looks like so.

1401
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 3: I guess I guess that happens.

1402
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 5: Let's let's move on. I think we can move on. Sure,

1403
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 5: what do you do with Pantosa? By the way, it

1404
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 5: really is interesting, bri right, because we sort of talked

1405
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 5: about how like Brandon roy Vall is the number one

1406
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 5: contender and after turning back Tatsuro Tyra and Moreno, he

1407
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 5: is certainly worthy. But like if you're Pantosia, right, this

1408
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 5: Kaya Sikora fight was worthwhile because it had a legacy

1409
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 5: building nature to it. So I just think they're in

1410
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 5: an interesting spot with Pantosa's there. I mean, you do Kai, like,

1411
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 5: what do you do?

1412
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1413
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, there's a lot when when DJ, when

1414
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: Demetrius was champion, there's a lot of guys that got

1415
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 3: spots that were let you look back and go huh.

1416
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 3: I mean DJ, he defended against Chris Carrioso, he defended

1417
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 3: against you know, Ray Borg at the time. I mean,

1418
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: no disrespecting these guys, but they were just feeding him.

1419
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 3: Guys in that division. I feel like one twenty five

1420
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 3: is a little deeper nowadays. I feel like Manel Cop

1421
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 3: has a really good performance, he could get the shot

1422
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 3: because he could be exciting, you know, and he dropped

1423
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 3: his last one against Mokaiya was no longer in the UFC.

1424
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 3: Is trying to work his way back to the UFC.

1425
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 3: But there's some options there. I mean, I don't know

1426
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: how many time you want to roll out the revol

1427
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 3: bring a Revolf fight, right, Yeah. And I like Pantoja

1428
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 3: because he's like, I'm not moving up. Fuck it, I'm

1429
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 3: the guy here, so let me let I'll fight anybody.

1430
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: So I like that. So they got to find somebody

1431
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 3: for him to fight, and uh yeah, I mean again,

1432
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 3: if of a one hundred and twenty five pounds in the

1433
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 3: next few months blows the doors off a place, I mean, yeah,

1434
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: we're looking at maybe him. There was Pantosian.

1435
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 5: I do believe fighters in that Australia New Zealand pocket

1436
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 5: get a lot of consideration just because of how rabid

1437
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 5: the fan base is for mixed martial arts in that

1438
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 5: part of the world. In Kai Conta, France, not only

1439
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 5: is coming off a huge knockout, but he he has

1440
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 5: an entire region behind him, and I think he has

1441
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 5: a great chance to produce a highlight if he does

1442
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 5: end up winning the fight, if he's next for all

1443
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 5: Chandre Pantosa, by the way, before we move on, so yes,

1444
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 5: I didn't put this together because I'm just sort of

1445
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 5: studying twenty eight fighters. So you can say that I'm

1446
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 5: really ignorant or stupid for not being able to see

1447
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 5: the content of this. But yes, before the fight, before

1448
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 5: the fight, Pantosa's boys were saying, after the win, We're

1449
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 5: gonna eat Japanese food and watch anime.

1450
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 4: I saw that.

1451
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 5: Okay, little fucking savages being raised here in South Florida.

1452
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 5: No Jesus, I didn't even put it together. I thought

1453
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 5: they just wanted sushi after the fight.

1454
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 3: No, you're so innocent, John, You're such an innocent man.

1455
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 3: Look at you pure And this is no dude. They're

1456
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 3: fucking playing Jeff, Dude, they're playing chess out here.

1457
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 5: My gosh, no pressure, dad, But if you win, we're

1458
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 5: gonna eat that nation's food and watch anime incredible. All right,

1459
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 5: Main event Challenge UFC Fight Night, Covington Versus Buckley. And

1460
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 5: by the way, Kenny, just so you know, we're not

1461
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 5: at place your bets yet, but your deficit is such

1462
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 5: couple grand whatever it is, three grand. I don't know.

1463
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 5: If I were you right to try to beat him,

1464
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 5: I would be doing a one thousand dollars parlay on

1465
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 5: like five or six or seven fights, because it's not

1466
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,520
Speaker 5: another round possibility you hit it.

1467
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 4: It's almost like you know me, yeah, Oh all right.

1468
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 5: First fight for us though, as we predict. In the

1469
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 5: bantamweight division, Soncora Daniel Marcos out of Pedouh minus one

1470
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 5: seventy taken on Adrian Yaniez, who is plus one forty two.

1471
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 5: Marcos undefeated sixteen and oh the no contest. Last win

1472
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 5: came in Louisville back in June. Janiez on the other

1473
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 5: side by he was all the rage at one point

1474
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 5: in this division. A couple of years ago, he dealt

1475
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 5: with the loss of his head coach, Saul Seleez during

1476
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 5: COVID nineteen. That was in twenty twenty one. He has

1477
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 5: now rallied back from that two fight skid. What do

1478
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 5: you have for us on Marcos the favorite and Janiez

1479
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 5: the dog?

1480
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 3: Love this fight, Love this fight. This could be a

1481
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 3: scrap Marca Uh, Daniel Marquez, Marcos, Marcos, Dougian, Marcos Marcos.

1482
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: I got it, I got it, I got it. Let

1483
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 3: me rewind, I got Daniel Marcos. Uh. This is the

1484
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: guy who's got to lot of skills. He's got some

1485
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 3: really good front kits, He's got some long range weapons.

1486
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a killer yet. He had

1487
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 3: the guy in the Contenni series on States and couldn't

1488
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 3: put him away, and then you know the the Davy

1489
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 3: Grand fight. I thought he dropped, but he is undefeated

1490
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 3: in the UFC, Simpson or since he's been in the UFC.

1491
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 3: But you got Adrian and Janiez. Who I think this dude.

1492
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 3: I've been a big fan of Janetz for a while.

1493
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: I've saw him, seen him on Remember the show. He

1494
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 3: has a great mind for the sport. I know he

1495
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: went through some trip relations, but he found out against

1496
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 3: Rob font Oh shit, Okay, I'm buzzing through everybody. This

1497
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 3: is a different dude. And then I don't think he

1498
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: took Jonathan Martinez as seriously he's Maybe he should up

1499
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: because he got his wheels kicked off, took some time,

1500
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 3: mixed up his training camp a little bit, went down

1501
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 3: with Diego Lopez and those boys, and got back, and

1502
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 3: I think his boxing is really clean. I think this

1503
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 3: is gonna be a super competitive fight. But when you're

1504
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 3: giving me plus one forty two on Adrian Jez, I

1505
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 3: like the mental. I think he learned from his losses.

1506
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: He's smart enough, he's a he's a good dude that

1507
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna come in here prepared for this. Marcos typically

1508
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 3: only throws a lot of lake kicks when he's fighting

1509
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 3: guys who were acceptable to that. So I'm looking for

1510
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 3: a lot of lake kicks out of Marcos because of

1511
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 3: the Martinez fight. Hopefully Yan Yez has fixed that. But

1512
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 3: if you throw naked leg kicks, he throw la kicks

1513
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 3: without putting faints anything behind it, what's coming at you.

1514
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 3: The hands are the counters and yan Yez is very

1515
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 3: good at that. So I like Arian here at the

1516
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 3: plus money kemflow.

1517
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 5: Jan Yez tough to say six and two in the

1518
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 5: UFC definitely the biggest step up competition wise for Daniel

1519
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 5: Marcos in his career. How do you see a plan out?

1520
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm I'm unsure of what yan Yez

1521
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 4: we're gonna see. I think that he's a guy who

1522
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 4: has a ton of potential, but with with his chin

1523
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 4: up in the air and with that toughness, he's eaten

1524
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 4: a lot of shots and can eat a lot of shots.

1525
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 4: So defensively he's gonna have to be on point, and

1526
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 4: I agree with Brian that he probably has the better hands,

1527
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 4: and in order to do that, he's gonna have to

1528
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 4: be in punching range, which means he has to find

1529
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 4: a way on the inside of those leg kicks of

1530
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 4: Daniel Marcos, and Marcos is more than just la kicks.

1531
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 4: I think he is very good in the clinch. I

1532
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,799
Speaker 4: think side wise he might be a problem for Yanyees

1533
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 4: as well, So I don't know. I'm leading the way

1534
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 4: of Marcos here. I think his overall game is just

1535
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 4: gonna be better. He's gonna be a little bit bigger.

1536
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 4: You know, I'd be pleasantly surprised if Yanyez is able

1537
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 4: to get a win here. But but I just don't

1538
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 4: see it. I think Marcus is a guy who's on

1539
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 4: the up and up, and uh give me Marcos all right.

1540
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 5: Light heavyweight division on the main card this weekend Vitur

1541
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 5: Patrino minus two ninety eight Dustin Jacoby plus two forty

1542
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 5: So Patrino suffering that quick loss at the hands of

1543
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 5: Anthony lyonhart Smith that really served to halt his momentum.

1544
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 5: He's about a three to one favorite here to try

1545
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 5: to regain some traction against the striker Dustin Jacoby, who

1546
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 5: has kind of fallen on hot times a little bit here.

1547
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 5: Briy what he had for us on the two zero

1548
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 5: five or skid?

1549
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kenny, Kenny just picked his peruvium brother. I mean,

1550
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 3: do we have any fat white Midwestern dudes on the

1551
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 3: card that I can row with that I can pick with?

1552
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1553
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: The uh No, I love I like this fight, but

1554
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 3: it makes me nervous because the numbers too big on Purcina.

1555
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 3: Pricrino shit his pants against Anthony Smith. That's just call

1556
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 3: it like it is. He got scared dove into a

1557
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 3: guillotine and he shited his pants. This is a guy

1558
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,839
Speaker 3: who has good striking, but he gets rattled in the striking.

1559
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 3: He's good when he's advancing, but when shit's coming back

1560
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 3: out of me panics. I've seen in all his fights

1561
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 3: he panics. He's his big, bricked up dude that could

1562
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 3: knock you out, but when you start giving him some heat,

1563
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 3: he falters a little bit and he kind of makes

1564
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 3: some poor decisions. But then you got Jacoby who's one

1565
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: in four in his last five and he's been put

1566
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 3: down and put out in quite a few of those fights.

1567
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: That scares me. The wheels are starting to maybe fall

1568
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 3: off a little bit on Jacoby. You know, kickboxing the

1569
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 3: extensive and my background. That scares me. I think Jacoby

1570
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: is a nice dog play here, and I'm scared to

1571
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 3: play Britriino, and I'm probably I'm not gonna play Pritino

1572
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 3: when it comes to betting stuff, but I'm gonna pick him.

1573
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 3: I think he does have more upside as a younger, stronger,

1574
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 3: bigger fighter, but man, he scares me for sure. I

1575
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 3: would not put him on anybody's top ticket.

1576
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 5: Canthll if Vito Patrino is still just twenty seven eleven

1577
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 5: and one. Now we'll see how he responds to his

1578
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 5: first pro lost. Jacoby Real quickly came back to the UFC.

1579
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 5: Kent flows smirking, so I hope I don't steer you

1580
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 5: off course. But Jacoby came back to the UFC Halloween

1581
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 5: twenty twenty during COVID nineteen that was his first UFC

1582
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 5: fight since twenty twelve, goes on a streak in which

1583
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 5: he loses only once in seven fights. I don't know

1584
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 5: if this has to do with the schedule getting better,

1585
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 5: but now he's lost four or five. Kenny, what are

1586
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 5: you smirking at? Buddy?

1587
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 2: What are you?

1588
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1589
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 4: Just thinking about you know, how how would sum up

1590
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 4: feature Petrino? And I was just thinking about it, saying

1591
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 4: something to do with young, dumb and full of but

1592
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 4: I will finish anyway, you know what I mean. It's like,

1593
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: here's a guy with a ton of potentially he looks

1594
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 4: the part, but then, like Brian was saying, I mean

1595
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 4: the decisions he makes, whether that's due to his lack

1596
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 4: of emotional control or just you know, lack of experience.

1597
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but yeah, it's like you see a

1598
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 4: performance like that and you're like, wait a second, which

1599
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 4: fighter is? Who is this guy? And it's hard to

1600
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 4: determine who the hell he is as fighter. Dustin Jacoby,

1601
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 4: I think is a guy who will still carry that

1602
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 4: power into this fight. I do agree with Brian, you know,

1603
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 4: after a long kickboxing career and you know, mixed martial

1604
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 4: art's career, how good is that chin? It can't hold

1605
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 4: up Patrino lands one big one man. I don't care

1606
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 4: who you are, even if you have a good chin,

1607
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 4: he can knock you out. So I don't know. I mean,

1608
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 4: if I had to pick, I kind of like the

1609
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 4: value on Jacoby just because Petrino. I don't think he's

1610
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 4: the most technical fighter in the world, and he's proven

1611
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 4: that he doesn't make the best decisions. I kind of

1612
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 4: like Jacoby here as an underdog, all right.

1613
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 5: Next up, big fight at flyweight ninth rank Manel cop

1614
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 5: minus three forty number twelve, Bruno Silva comes back plus

1615
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 5: two seventy. Kap is the guy A lot of people

1616
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 5: do want to see fight for the title. I know

1617
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 5: there have been some weight making issues, but he did

1618
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 5: make weight his last time out. Did lose that last

1619
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 5: fight though, to the now departed Mohammed Mokaiev. Bruno Silva

1620
01:20:54,560 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 5: out of Peter Qui Kaba, Peter keith Kaa, Peter key Kaba,

1621
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 5: Sal Paulo Brazil. Ken you ever heard of that place?

1622
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,799
Speaker 4: I have not, not in that location of so Paula.

1623
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 5: I have not no Pitracicaba or Pittockykaba Sal Paulo Brazil.

1624
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 5: He's won four in a row. Bruno Silva has all

1625
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 5: by knockout or submission. Bry I'll never try to pronounce

1626
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 5: that again. Who wins the fight.

1627
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm just staring at you smilingly. He is human, He's

1628
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 3: human mess.

1629
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I man, I you know I didn't chase

1630
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 5: panetics on the front end of the programs. So yeah,

1631
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 5: this is a good fight.

1632
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 3: This is this is gonna be the fight that really

1633
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 3: opened one twenty five because we don't talk about Bruno Silva,

1634
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,799
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, We don't talk about Bruno.

1635
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: So this guy is legit. He knocked out Cody Durden

1636
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 3: last time out, and Cody Durten. We just all put

1637
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 3: on a hell of a gen explay. He's also very good.

1638
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 4: On the ground.

1639
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 3: He's an underrated, underappreciated guy. Bruno Silva. You line up

1640
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 3: in his bracket, people are gonna be like and not

1641
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 3: many people really know who he is because there's a

1642
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 3: billion Bruno Silvas, and not only in the UFC but

1643
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 3: in Brazil. But you know, this guy's dangerous. You got me,

1644
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 3: No Cop who I think the world of I think

1645
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 3: he is so talented and so violent, but he gets

1646
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 3: in his own way. In the Mokaya fight, not only

1647
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 3: did he lose stock because he lost, but they fought

1648
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 3: like six fucking times before the fight, and the fight

1649
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 3: was a dud. They did nothing in the third round.

1650
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 3: Cop finally was like, oh, I can sprawl his takedowns.

1651
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 3: I need to put it on this kid. He never did,

1652
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 3: and that is what kind of cop does. His first

1653
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 3: two fights in UFC were losses, and there were really

1654
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 3: times where he could have really taken over those fights.

1655
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 3: I mean again, his first fight in UFC was against

1656
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 3: Pantojo was a very close loss. So he has a

1657
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 3: card to play. You go out and knock out Bruno Silva. Hey,

1658
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:36,560
Speaker 3: let me run back with Pantojio.

1659
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 4: It was close.

1660
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 3: I think I won blah blah blah, and I hope

1661
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 3: he does that. Minus three forty's a little scary because

1662
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: of the inconsistency with them and the fact that not

1663
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 3: in a lot of people are appreciating Bruno Silva. But

1664
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 3: I'm a Manel Coop fans. I'm a rock with manow.

1665
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 5: Cop ken Fler. What do you have on the fly guys, kid?

1666
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Brian did a great breakdown. Don't have

1667
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 4: a whole lot to add. I think manew Cop is

1668
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 4: probably the better fighter over all, but Bruno Silva is

1669
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 4: not a guy you want to underestimate, you know. And

1670
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 4: and maybe this is the fight where we go, oh

1671
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 4: wait a secon Bruno Silva is for real? He just

1672
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 4: beating uh Cop. So yeah, I think manell Cop, I

1673
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 4: don't think he has to worry about you know that

1674
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 4: wrestling uh style you know so much here, you know.

1675
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 4: I think he'll be able to stop most of the takedowns,

1676
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 4: will be able to outstrike Silva for the most part.

1677
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 4: But Silva's got some pop in his punches, but uh

1678
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 4: some value there on the Brazilian. But give me coup.

1679
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: All right?

1680
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 5: Comin event and featherweight Billy Corntello Modus one sixty two

1681
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:40,480
Speaker 5: Cubs Swanson plus one thirty six. Billy Q turned thirty.

1682
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 3: Six yesterday, Hey.

1683
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 5: Happy birthday, Will. I don't know Billy will Well William Bello.

1684
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 5: He's a friend of the Anakin florent podcast, so I

1685
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 5: think he could take it.

1686
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 4: So uh, Will will Corn Willie Willy Willie Cue.

1687
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 5: I'm so underslept, I am yawning over here even though

1688
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 5: I'm wildly entertained. But Will Corantillo started his UFC career

1689
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 5: in twenty nineteen. He's actually fought a lot around his

1690
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 5: birthday in December and has performed well. He has alternated

1691
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 5: wins and losses. Has Will corn Tillo since a three

1692
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 5: and zero UFC start. He's six and four in the

1693
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 5: UFC following a submission loss to use Off Sala back

1694
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 5: in March home game four UM fights out of Tampa,

1695
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 5: Florida BP. Yeah, and he gets a big spot here

1696
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 5: against the big name killer Cup Swanson, who he had

1697
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 5: for US.

1698
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: Brian Petrie John You'll never remember this because you kind

1699
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 3: of Mike multiple times a week. But you initially told

1700
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: me that I look like a Billy, and You're like,

1701
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start calling you Billy, right. I that was

1702
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 3: probably a year and a half ago, right, and never

1703
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 3: picked up season.

1704
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 4: I still I still have people.

1705
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 3: In my my MMA takes podcast live chats to go

1706
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: what out Billy, and people are like, who the fuck

1707
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 3: is Bill? So that's an old reference fear speaking about

1708
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 3: Billy Q. The guy knows, everyone knows what he wants

1709
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 3: to do. He's gonna weaponize his card, gonna come atch you.

1710
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 3: He's gonna rough you up. He'said clinch you up, take

1711
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 3: you down, and make you stand back up. The only

1712
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 3: problem with that is lately he's been getting finished, which

1713
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 3: wasn't never what happened to him. He was a robot, right.

1714
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 3: He zombie walked through people, couldn't walk through the ets

1715
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 3: and knee couldn't walk for or walk through us as

1716
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 3: a law who's on a heater right now. But I

1717
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 3: still think he has enough in the tank to take

1718
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 3: out Cub swantson. I love Cobby, I love come Swatson.

1719
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 3: When you come from those blue matchs, when you come

1720
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 3: from the WEC, You're always gonna have my respect. You're

1721
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 3: always gonna you know, there's always gonna be a salute

1722
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 3: for me. But I just like Cub has power still,

1723
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 3: but he still only fights at his pace. And when

1724
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 3: you start ramping up that pace on him, I don't

1725
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 3: think he likes it too much. He obviously can catch

1726
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 3: Billy Q here low plight price at plus one thirty six.

1727
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 3: I thought he'd be higher than that. I'm a rock

1728
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: with Billy Q. Probably just cardio machine. Not probably finishing Cub,

1729
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 3: but going to a decision.

1730
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 4: Yep, they commuted.

1731
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 3: Oh, sorry, there you go.

1732
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 5: I don't know, sorry, guys. Uh So Kenny Cub Swanson

1733
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 5: fourteen and ten in the UFC as he comes on

1734
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 5: this twenty fifth UFC appearance, last one to split loss

1735
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 5: to Andre Field UFC three oh three, wicked competitive fight

1736
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 5: and of course preceded by a winover Team dow would

1737
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 5: do last August. So Swanson's still active, still competitive. He

1738
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 5: turned forty one in November, and uh here he takes

1739
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 5: on will till uh will ran Tillo? Do you like

1740
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 5: Kenny Willie Q?

1741
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 4: One eyed Willie? Is that what's called Willy?

1742
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 5: I really like that.

1743
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 3: That's a different thing. That's a different thing, that's right.

1744
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 4: Sorry, One eye Willie is something totally different. Sorry, all right,

1745
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 4: with the wheels have fallen off Okay, So I'm with

1746
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 4: Brian on this one. I think that first of all,

1747
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 4: this is great matchmaking. I think this is a fight

1748
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 4: that makes a lot of sense, you know, perhaps a

1749
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 4: more important one for Billy Q. You know, Cub definitely

1750
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 4: more near the end of his career. But uh, I think,

1751
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 4: you know, this is one of those fights where Billy

1752
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 4: could definitely weaponize his cardial like Brian said, and get

1753
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 4: the win. Cub likes to kind of control the pace

1754
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 4: like a lot of fighters and doesn't always do well

1755
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 4: with pressure consistently over time. And while Cub is still

1756
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 4: very potent, I'm not sure he has that same kind

1757
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 4: of knockout power or speed that someone like Barbosa has

1758
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 4: or or maybe has the submission prowess of some of

1759
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 4: the other guys that Billy C has gone with. So

1760
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 4: I like Billy Q here in this spot. I think

1761
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 4: this is a fight where he can come back. I

1762
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 4: also like the fact that we haven't seen him since March,

1763
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 4: so he's had a lot of time to develop. He

1764
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 4: said he wanted to change a lot about how he

1765
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 4: approaches fights and how he goes about them defensively and stuff.

1766
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 4: So that's all good stuff. Whether Billy's able to do

1767
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 4: that when the fight starts. I don't know, but I

1768
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 4: like Billy in this spot.

1769
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm not calling the fight in Tampa because

1770
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 5: this would be like a big norm situation where I'm

1771
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 5: in my life following it. And Willie Q is a

1772
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 5: great nickname. Cody, you're right, will Quill excuse me, not

1773
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 5: will Quill, will Till fucking will Till will Quarantello, I

1774
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 5: mean fun, He's gonna kill me, Oh my gosh. So

1775
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 5: when I went to Camp Samrset in Casco, Maine, they

1776
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 5: used to try to scare us with stories, and this

1777
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 5: recurring story was about three fingered Willie three fingered Willie

1778
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 5: corn Tillo.

1779
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 4: All right, I was the rival camp Camp Manito. Don't

1780
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 4: you know about Camp Manito.

1781
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, they used to destroy us, especially in baseball.

1782
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 3: Cannibal got it all right.

1783
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 5: Main event in the welterweight division, ninth ranked Joaquin Newmanson

1784
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 5: Buckley monnus two seventy eight. Former UFC Interim Champion and

1785
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 5: six rank contender Colby Covington comes back plus two twenty five. Bry.

1786
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 5: You know Buckley was to face he in the Shadeo'gary.

1787
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 5: He was pulled to fight Shop cut Rock monov So

1788
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 5: now new Mansa putting his five fight winning streak on

1789
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 5: the line against Colby Chaos. Talk us through the main event, VP,

1790
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 5: if you would.

1791
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this. This one surprised me when I

1792
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 3: broke this down. This obviously got announced a while ago,

1793
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 3: and I've been obviously watching the tape. I am not

1794
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 3: the biggest Kobe comingon fan. I don't really love the shtick,

1795
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 3: you know. I know he came out you a while ago, John,

1796
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 3: that got us all fired up. But you know, I

1797
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 3: think that if you're gonna do a stick like that,

1798
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 3: you gotta kind of win, right, You gotta win fights.

1799
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 3: And then I don't love like we were just I

1800
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 3: was complimenting Ian Gary after he lost how he handled it.

1801
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 3: You know, Kobe Coven doesn't handle loss as well. He

1802
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 3: thinks he's won. You know, like you got knocked out

1803
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 3: a Kamara Usman in the first fight and you're like,

1804
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,839
Speaker 3: I won that fight. Well, no you didn't, bro But anyway,

1805
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: you look at jaque Buckley fight, and this is interesting

1806
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 3: Becausejaquem is hot. He's on the feed up one seventy

1807
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 3: right now, and he's looking great. He's traveling all over

1808
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 3: the world, excuse me, all of the United States to

1809
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 3: get really good training and and he is shown the

1810
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 3: Stephen Wonderbore Thompson fighter. His last time out, he was

1811
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 3: slowing down. He was a very heavily grappling game plan,

1812
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 3: and he slowed down. And I don't I don't believe

1813
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 3: in lucky punches. He landed a great shot to put

1814
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 3: one of the boy out, but he was slowing down.

1815
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 3: This is a five round fight against Kobe Comings and

1816
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 3: Kobe Cutlington. As much as the shtick is there, he's

1817
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 3: also a cerebral guy. He's gonna take fights that he

1818
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 3: thinks he can win. There's a reason he took this

1819
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 3: fight as opposed to hopping in against Shotcott the week prior,

1820
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 3: or Ian Garry or whatever is. He sees something in

1821
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 3: Buckley and I think that's gonna be the wrestling. I

1822
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 3: think that the five round he's gonna keep his distance,

1823
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 3: kind of like he did with Leon Edwards, stay away

1824
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 3: a little bit. Joaquem's gonna kind of explode in there.

1825
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 3: He's not a long range guy like Leon is. He

1826
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 3: doesn't have the most potently kicks because Leon kicked off

1827
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 3: Kobe's Wheels and then Kobe's eventually gonna take him down.

1828
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 3: Rinton repeat, hire out wa Quem Buckley. I'm surprised I'm

1829
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 3: going with Kobe Covington. But when you're giving me plus

1830
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 3: money on a guy like Kobe who can drown you

1831
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 3: in a five round fight against Jaquem Buckley, that's I

1832
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 3: feel like, that's that's you have to take that as

1833
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 3: a gambler plus two twenty five, So I'm gonna go

1834
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 3: Kobe Covington.

1835
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: All right.

1836
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 5: Kevinton last competed against Leon Edwards. That was a loss

1837
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 5: at UFC two to ninety six, and even though there

1838
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 5: have been bouts of inactivity, he has competed at least

1839
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 5: once in every calendar year and albeit on short notice,

1840
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 5: getting one in here. Last seven fight. It's Kenny for

1841
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 5: Covington either have been decisions or have gone into a

1842
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 5: fifth round as he did against kamar Usman, or the

1843
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 5: TKO against Tyron Woodley. Now fighting the younger Joking Buckley,

1844
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 5: who is thirty, who's really coming into his own I

1845
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 5: think he packs as much power and is as athletic

1846
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 5: as any welterweight in the world. I think that's reflected

1847
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 5: in the betting price here minus two seventy eight for

1848
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 5: Buckley can flow. How do you think he fares in

1849
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 5: the biggest fight of his career today, Yeah.

1850
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 4: No question about it. Buckley is a very dangerous and

1851
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:37,520
Speaker 4: powerful guy. But I think Brian had a great breakdown.

1852
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 4: I think, first of all, going five rounds, just going

1853
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 4: five rounds as difficult, Going five rounds against someone like

1854
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 4: Colby Covington is magnified that much more. And I think

1855
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 4: that Buckley enjoys the fact that he can strike with

1856
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 4: guys and if he's not able to outstrike them, he

1857
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 4: can then lean on his wrestling to put them on

1858
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 4: their back and stuff like that. Don't think that's going

1859
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 4: to be an option here against Covington, who is going

1860
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 4: to be the better wrestler. And Covington, you know, while

1861
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 4: it's probably near the end of his career right in

1862
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 4: some ways, I think he still has shown that he

1863
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 4: is extremely durable. And it's been a year since we've

1864
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 4: seen him. I think Kobe stays pretty active with his

1865
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 4: training schedule and these are the times, like I said before,

1866
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 4: we can really make some good improvements. And I also

1867
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 4: think that we didn't see the real Kobe Covington against

1868
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 4: Leon Edwards. I know that Leon you know, is a

1869
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 4: fantastic fighter and all that stuff, but I don't know.

1870
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 4: Something seemed off with Covington. I think he went into

1871
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 4: that fight pretty injured. I don't think we're going to

1872
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 4: see that, So I'm not sure we should judge Kobe

1873
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 4: on his last one against Edwards again a year ago.

1874
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 4: I think we'll see a Kobe Covington who is going

1875
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,560
Speaker 4: to bring the pace and talking about talk about weaponizing

1876
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 4: your cardio. I think that's what we're gonna see here

1877
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 4: in the main event, and Covington will probably wear down

1878
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 4: buck Lee in around the third or fourth round and

1879
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 4: be able to get a win, either you know, by

1880
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 4: t K or by decision. But Buckley is still a dude.

1881
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 4: Even though Colby has a tremendous gin and has proven

1882
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 4: to have that, Buckley still is a guy that you

1883
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 4: do not want to eat too many shots against. Buckley

1884
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 4: can put anybody out at any point. So if Buckley

1885
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 4: gets it done, look for that to be early. But

1886
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 4: I like kolbe here.

1887
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 5: All right, bang up job, breaking down the main event

1888
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 5: for the final UFC fight night of the year, and

1889
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 5: before we get to place your bets, I would just

1890
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 5: like to thank both of you individuals are chief handicapper

1891
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 5: Brian Petrie, Kenny Flooryan for all of the fight breakdowns

1892
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,760
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1893
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Speaker 5: standings from UFC three to ten. Petrie was at six

1900
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 5: seventy two fifty five, made four hundred on the week

1901
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 5: hits on Brian battle A, Leschandre Pantosa and Vicente Luke,

1902
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 5: losses on Nate land Where and Crone Gracie. Year to

1903
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 5: date over one thousand dollars one thousand and seventy three dollars.

1904
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 5: Team Florian was minus ten sixty one one in four. Kenny,

1905
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,759
Speaker 5: perhaps a little bit unlucky the losses on aljaminer Sterling,

1906
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 5: Iam Mischadogary and kayas A Koria did hit a three

1907
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 5: thousand dollars straight wager on Dominic Rays but he was

1908
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 5: a big favorite. So it's minus eleven seventeen for the week,

1909
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 5: minus twenty one seventy nine for the year. So the deficit,

1910
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 5: you know about three g's maybe looking at a big

1911
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 5: parlay here, Brian Petrie, you get one thousand dollars UFC

1912
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 5: fighting at Covington versus Buckley. How you're spreading around your

1913
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 5: cash if at all?

1914
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 3: So you know, people love I'm making this up, Cody,

1915
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 3: like said the sound bides, I'm going dog hunting this one.

1916
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 3: I could sit back and play the favorite to not you.

1917
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 5: Know it all.

1918
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 2: We don't need no meals, we don't need no cats.

1919
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 2: We need more dogs.

1920
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 3: We need more dogs. So I'm going Kobe kot Vington

1921
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 3: two hundred bucks. Okay, let me go, Adrian yan yez

1922
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 3: another two hundred bucks, and I'm gonna go ahead and

1923
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 3: dust off my old parlay shoes. We're gonna dig into

1924
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 3: the prelims. Nava Host, Sterling, Billy Q, and Minell cop

1925
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 3: parlay for plus one point fifty. That is going to

1926
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 3: be two hundred dollars as current right now in DraftKings.

1927
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 3: I placed that bet before I got on the show,

1928
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 3: and the final up. My final bet of twenty twenty four,

1929
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 3: The Incifornia Podcast. We're going back to MJ baby, Michael

1930
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 3: Johnson four hundred dollars. I love him in this spot.

1931
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 3: He ain't gonna fail me. I have an addiction to

1932
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 3: Betty Michael Johnson, and he's not gonna fil me.

1933
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 5: Ah right, Michael Johnson with your final four hundred, So

1934
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 5: two hundred on Colby Covington, two hundred on Adrian Yan

1935
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 5: Yez three leg parlay for two hundred and then four

1936
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 5: hundred on Michael Johnson. Will got about that parlay. Incidentally,

1937
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 5: we'll see if Will can deliver for you can't fully

1938
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 5: out a thousand bucks? What are we doing? Kid?

1939
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 4: Alrighty, So we're gonna play that parlay you were talking about,

1940
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 4: Johnny Boy, We're gonna go with Marcos, Monel Copp, Billy Q,

1941
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 4: and Covington for one thousand dollars.

1942
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 2: All right.

1943
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 5: We will do the math next week and see who

1944
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 5: emerges as the winner of the main event challenge at

1945
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 5: Brian Petrie MMA. If you want more from that guy,

1946
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 5: his MMA Takes podcast is outstanding. Best of luck with

1947
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 5: your dog hunting this week, MM and we'll talk to

1948
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 5: you come Monday.

1949
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you boys, listen. I don't know how many

1950
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 3: years I've been doing this now, two or three years,

1951
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. This is a dream come true. I was

1952
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 3: a hardcore listener, still a hardcore listener. Being friends with

1953
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 3: you guys, Cody behind the camera, this has changed my life.

1954
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 3: You guys are unbelievable. It's my uh, this what I

1955
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:39,799
Speaker 3: look forward to every week. So you guys are awesome.

1956
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1957
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,759
Speaker 3: Thank you for all the people watching sending me a message,

1958
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 3: everything like that. Best fan base in the world.

1959
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 5: You're the best, buddy, You're the best.

1960
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 2: We appreciate you boys.

1961
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 5: Happy holidays, Brian Petrie with us for the main event

1962
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 5: challenge and place your bets. All right, Cody, you can

1963
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 5: kindly let me know if and when we have Ray Longo.

1964
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 5: But we have a few other things we would like

1965
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 5: to get to before we get to that point in time.

1966
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 5: So Ken Flow, you know, I like the goat conversation

1967
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 5: at times, pound for pound conversation I can take or leave,

1968
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 5: but I think right now is an important time to

1969
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 5: have the pound for pound conversation. Even if Allochanre Pantosia

1970
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 5: ends up on the outside of your top five looking

1971
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 5: in So as we close the book on twenty twenty four,

1972
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 5: and as we come up on award season, who are

1973
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 5: your top five pound for pound mixed martial arts athletes

1974
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 5: in the world.

1975
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 4: All right, Well, it's the end of the year, so

1976
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of appropriate here, all right, So

1977
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 4: at number five, I actually have a non champ. This

1978
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 4: is the most controversial pick out of all of them.

1979
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 4: John comes out, Yeah, number five. Right, I'm looking at skills,

1980
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 4: I'm looking at everything, not just belts. Guys number four,

1981
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 4: belaal Mohammed at number four, number three, Jonathan Jones, Jonathan Jones,

1982
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 4: number two Islam Mahashiff, and number one on Ilia Topouria.

1983
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 5: Notable omissions for ken flow perhaps Alex Poeton Pareta, the

1984
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 5: middleweight champion drinks duplessi. It's a very difficult exercise when

1985
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 5: you look at some of the fighters, even on the

1986
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 5: UFC rankings, that are number eleven or twelve in the world. Right,

1987
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 5: It's a really difficult thing and almost nice when you

1988
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 5: can look at a fighter coming off a loss and

1989
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 5: it's like, all right, at least I don't have to

1990
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 5: include them because they are coming off a loss. All right,

1991
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 5: Right now, my top five pound for pound fighters in

1992
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 5: the world toughest omission for me was Alex Poeton Pareta,

1993
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 5: who certainly I think deserves inclusion. But I only got

1994
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 5: five slots. You know, It's like now Rushmore only got

1995
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 5: four slots. I don't know what to tell you. Top

1996
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 5: five pound for pound fighters in the world. As we

1997
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 5: close the book on twenty twenty four, number five for me,

1998
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 5: but low remember the name Muhammad. Number four a La

1999
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 5: Chandre Pantosia. Number three Ilio Topourier, Ilio Topuria, I believe

2000
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 5: is the way it's pronounced. Yes, And number two John Jones.

2001
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 5: The number one pound for pound fighter in the world

2002
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 5: is Islami Kashev. And we'll see who is atop the

2003
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 5: perch come two thousand twenty six. All right, three fighters, Kenny,

2004
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 5: we need from you today. At the close of the show.

2005
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 5: You are going to have a fight with one of them.

2006
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 5: You are going to party with one of them. You

2007
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 5: are going to commentate with one of them. So three fighters,

2008
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 5: you fight one, you party with one, you commentate with one.

2009
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 4: Yes, got it, got it. Let's see, So fight, let's see.

2010
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 4: I want Klaiy Greener, Jim Miller, That's who I want.

2011
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 4: I want to I want to fight one of those guys.

2012
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 4: They were right right around my era, and that's the

2013
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 4: fight I want to have right now. I got my

2014
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,560
Speaker 4: camera on Jim Miller. Where you at all? Right? Commentate?

2015
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 4: I would love to commentate with Bryce Mitchell, dude, that

2016
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 4: would be that would be hilarious. I think I think

2017
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 4: he would be a funny guy, uh to commentate with.

2018
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 4: And as far as partying with, I mean Alex Poeton

2019
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 4: Patata man. You know, like first of all, if people

2020
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 4: get drunken out of hand, like who's gonna mess with me?

2021
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 4: Number one? Right? And then uh, I just think I

2022
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 4: know Potatos is much of a drinker these days, but

2023
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 4: he just seems like a cool cat man. I am

2024
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 4: fascinated by that dude. He's just a very interesting guy.

2025
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,520
Speaker 5: I'm a lot of things by that dude. I'm fascinated

2026
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 5: by him. I'm intimidated by him. In that black suit

2027
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 5: or blue suit at the World MMA Awards, guy looked incredible.

2028
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 5: He had I think Louis Vaton pants on at gg

2029
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 5: UFC three ten live event. So all right, three fighters fight,

2030
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 5: one party with one commentate with one. So Joshua Van

2031
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 5: wants to strike for your viewing entertainment he doesn't want

2032
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,600
Speaker 5: to wrestle nor grapple. He can do it, he'll do

2033
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 5: it defensively, but he basically comes out and tells everybody

2034
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 5: he's trying to be a promoter's dream. He's trying to

2035
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 5: put on a show. So I guess I would fight

2036
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 5: Joshua Van because I be the bigger man, and I

2037
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 5: know it would probably end quickly. Maybe I could catch

2038
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 5: him on the way in, but I know he's not

2039
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 5: going to try to take me down. It's just going

2040
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 5: to be a striking affair. So I would fight Joshua Van,

2041
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 5: even though I love the guy and I'm really just

2042
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 5: trying to give him some shot. I would party with

2043
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 5: John Jones, right, I would party with John Jones.

2044
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 4: It'd be a night to remember, deep into the night.

2045
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 5: I would also party with Platinum Mike Perry, and I

2046
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 5: would commentate with Anthony Lyonhart Smith. I'm really excited to

2047
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 5: commentate with somebody who is not worried about people's feelings

2048
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 5: and who is really critical. And I mean, the cop

2049
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 5: out answer would have been that I would commentate with

2050
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 5: Kenny Florian again, which I hope happens. The Great Ray

2051
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 5: Longo now joins us Ray how are we doing.

2052
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 2: Hey, tough tough weekend, tough morning.

2053
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2054
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got to get a little bit better about

2055
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 5: how we communicate it so that when Cody ask you

2056
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 5: for ten thirty, you can just say no instead of

2057
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 5: I'll try you know what I mean, You can just

2058
01:41:58,520 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 5: say no.

2059
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 6: I thought that was a nice way of saying, oh,

2060
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 6: fuck yourself.

2061
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 5: Thanks.

2062
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2063
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 5: So I have child obligations coming up here in about

2064
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes, so we're going to do as much as

2065
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 5: we can with Ray Long Goo on the way out here.

2066
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 5: But welcome back from Las Vegas. Obviously not the trip

2067
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 5: you envisioned in some part. I'd like to start with

2068
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 5: Chris Widman if we could, What do you have for

2069
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 5: us on the fight week? The fight itself and the

2070
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 5: relative challenge of you know, weighing in at MSG, not

2071
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 5: getting that opportunity and then competing at a catchwaight three

2072
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 5: weeks later?

2073
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 6: Uh, listen, he looked. All I could say is he

2074
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 6: looked really good. Well, every time I saw him do anything,

2075
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 6: you know, he wasn't no injuries. I don't know if

2076
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:46,640
Speaker 6: that had anything to do with it. I thought the

2077
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 6: one ninety five was a beautiful, great wait for him.

2078
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 6: I thought he had a good first round and then

2079
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 6: that second round just went the shit.

2080
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 2: But all in all, you know, not that he's heard.

2081
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 6: Or anything, And I'm not saying like you got to move,

2082
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 6: you gotta respond to the ref but it definitely is

2083
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 6: what it is. I don't know, he's gonna have to

2084
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 6: He's gonna have to do some thinking after that one.

2085
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, Ray, is there any I guess inside

2086
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 4: info on what happened there? Because it seemed like he

2087
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 4: was in the fight and all of a sudden something

2088
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 4: happened where it didn't seem like Chris Wadden was moving

2089
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 4: the way Chris Wadman typically would have reacted to that situation.

2090
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, was that a matter of him being injured

2091
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 4: at a certain point during that fight? Was he hurt

2092
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 4: during that fight? Was he absolutely exhausted? Did he not

2093
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 4: want to be there?

2094
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 2: What do you think was Honestly, I have no idea.

2095
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 6: It looked like the fight was going the exact way

2096
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,600
Speaker 6: we all thought it was gonna go, even when he

2097
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 6: dropped him. But you know, when I think when he

2098
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 6: jumped to guillotine, right, he had the guillotine and he

2099
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 6: sat down, that was like kind of the beginning of

2100
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 6: the end, and I don't know why he, you know,

2101
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 6: he chose to go that route. I'm not sure he

2102
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 6: does either, but you know, I really haven't. I told

2103
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,600
Speaker 6: to him a little bit after. It was just you know,

2104
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 6: I went right to Aljo's room after that, so right,

2105
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 6: I was kind of added the loop a little bit.

2106
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 6: But I thought he was looking okay until he wasn't

2107
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 6: looking okay.

2108
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 5: I did think that as he was walking out of

2109
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 5: the octagon, he had a little bit of a different

2110
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 5: look on his face. I think it was more than

2111
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 5: just frustration. I think it was almost asking himself internally

2112
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,719
Speaker 5: in that moment, like am I going to do this anymore?

2113
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 5: And I think when I sat down with him a

2114
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 5: few weeks ago and he had sort of more assurance

2115
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:36,560
Speaker 5: in that leg than in the Bruno Silva fight or

2116
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 5: the Brad Taboris fight. Even just five weeks before the

2117
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 5: MSG fight, he finally felt like he could really push

2118
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 5: off of the leg and do some things pain free.

2119
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 5: So I sort of felt like going into the MSG fight,

2120
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people felt like he was

2121
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 5: going to lay down the gloves. I felt like it

2122
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 5: was really a two fight proposition. Minimally in his mind.

2123
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm wrong and I shouldn't be speculating, but what

2124
01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 5: do you think I mean, is it unfair of us

2125
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 5: to have that conversation with you? You know, Dana White

2126
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 5: would like him to retire at this point in time.

2127
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean really that's uh. Look, I didn't I

2128
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 6: didn't like the way to fight ended. But that's a

2129
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 6: conversation you really have to have with him. I mean, he's, uh,

2130
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 6: you know, he's got a families he has to take

2131
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 6: care of. And if you know that's the way he

2132
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 6: chooses to make his money, that's I think gets what

2133
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 6: we're all about, you know, I mean, not not us,

2134
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 6: I'm saying, but in general, you know, we don't want

2135
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 6: to be told what to do. And you know, the

2136
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 6: less intervention the better, you know, that type of ship.

2137
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 6: But that's that's that's up to him.

2138
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 2: Man, it really is, you know.

2139
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 6: I mean, from the outside looking in, I think he's

2140
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 6: in a good spot. I don't know what he thinks,

2141
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 6: but you know, I could tell you to warming up.

2142
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 6: He really really looked good, Like he didn't look like

2143
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 6: he had any glitches. Like There's been times I've seen

2144
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 6: him in the past where you could see he's not

2145
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 6: going for a shot because he you know, the knees,

2146
01:45:55,760 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 6: nothing's everything's not really tight, just doesn't look coordinated. But

2147
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 6: he looked really really good, and he really did. He

2148
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 6: looked really really good. So I think it was probably

2149
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 6: more of a mental thing whatever happened. And that's that's

2150
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 6: really all I got.

2151
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 2: But that's to him.

2152
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, And I know it's not fair to

2153
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 5: put you on the spot. So if I were to

2154
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 5: ask you what that beeping is, would you be able

2155
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 5: to tell me? Yes, my phone, you can get it,

2156
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,640
Speaker 5: you can silence it. Can you fucking hear that in

2157
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 5: the cans that you're wearing your dou No?

2158
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 2: I really I could barely hear it. Nothing to bother nothing,

2159
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 2: not enough to bother me, that's.

2160
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 5: For sure, Kenny. Can you hear those beeps? Okay?

2161
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

2162
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 4: Yes?

2163
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 6: How loud did they sound? Did they sound very loud,

2164
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 6: a little loud or barely loud?

2165
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 4: Loud?

2166
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 5: I'm absolutely loud. Play it back for you and thank you,

2167
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 5: Kenny forgetting.

2168
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 2: I could barely hear a thing. But then again, I'm deaf,

2169
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 2: so I don't know if that plays well.

2170
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:02,759
Speaker 5: Hey, it doesn't bother you, So let's see the extent

2171
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 5: to which the listenership has actually bothered. They're probably more

2172
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 5: bothered by me asking you about it than bothered by

2173
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 5: the beach. But either way, now they stop now. So

2174
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 5: all right, So in terms of before we get to

2175
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 5: al Jamaine Sterling, because I figured that would be a

2176
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,719
Speaker 5: little bit of a longer conversation. In terms of these

2177
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:27,800
Speaker 5: three athletes Clay Gweeda, Chris Widman, Anthony Lyonheartsmith, they all

2178
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 5: competed this past weekend, they all lost, and for all

2179
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 5: of them, they all have had relative degrees of legend,

2180
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 5: and now their boss, DAINA. White, is calling for them

2181
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 5: to retire. I know they're all individual cases, you know,

2182
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 5: but what do you think in terms of those three guys.

2183
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 5: And I don't even think you need to address your

2184
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 5: guide necessarily, but when you have three guys who seemingly

2185
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,799
Speaker 5: still want to be in there right have to provide

2186
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 5: for their families, this is far and away the best

2187
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 5: way for them to do that. But yet some people

2188
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 5: are wondering how competitive they are, you know, with guys

2189
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 5: that in their prime they maybe would absolutely.

2190
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:07,719
Speaker 2: Without a doubt.

2191
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 6: I think that's the question. I'll tell you one thing

2192
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 6: that claik Weed has got some energy. I don't care

2193
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 6: how old he.

2194
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:14,680
Speaker 4: Is, he is.

2195
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 2: He is off the choke.

2196
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, like he was the PA guy before

2197
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 5: Morob and Covington and I.

2198
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 6: I think I saw him in the elevator go you

2199
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 6: and Morob. I just can't figure this out.

2200
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 5: Hot.

2201
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 2: He is booking man.

2202
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 6: So if you if we're going on energy, Kennedy, that

2203
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 6: guy's not going anywhere for about another twelve years.

2204
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 4: I think he's that's impressive.

2205
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 6: I mean, it's really it's insane. It's actually insane. I

2206
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 6: saw him warming up. He's just uh he is.

2207
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 2: He's got one speed, that guy.

2208
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, uh hey, listen, it's a it's really up.

2209
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 2: To Dan and they all have contracts.

2210
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 6: I don't know what the what the deal is on anything,

2211
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 6: but certainly if Dana didn't want anybody to fight, he

2212
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 6: wouldn't let it.

2213
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 2: He wouldn't he wouldn't have him fighting. I think he's

2214
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 2: proven that before. So it's his company.

2215
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he does. And I don't think I want

2216
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 5: to be put in a position where you know, he

2217
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 5: has to cut the former on disputed you have see

2218
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 5: mid away champion, But that's probably a good place to

2219
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 5: stop down that conversation al Jabner, Sterling movsar Ivloyev. What

2220
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 5: a fight, man, I loved it.

2221
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:19,759
Speaker 6: Loved the fight, loved the fight. To me, no winner

2222
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 6: or loser in that fight. That fight was raise a close.

2223
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 6: I told al Joe twenty seconds either direction, you get

2224
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,639
Speaker 6: more control time. I think it came down the only

2225
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 6: thing I could think about because it really was a

2226
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 6: good fight. I really I think al Joe should be

2227
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:37,639
Speaker 6: proud and hold his head up. I don't think there's

2228
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,600
Speaker 6: a winner a loser in that fight. And I think optically,

2229
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 6: when Moso was on top a couple of times, even

2230
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 6: though I don't think they were effected at all, he

2231
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 6: was at least throwing, and I think optically that maybe.

2232
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 2: Was what gave him the decision. That's the only thing

2233
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 2: I could think that was a really good fight.

2234
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 6: Aljoe, I think had three takedowns in the third round,

2235
01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:02,600
Speaker 6: So uh, he's getting a lot of love, which he deserves. Yeah,

2236
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 6: And it was just really a great scrap between two

2237
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:06,719
Speaker 6: really cool guys.

2238
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 2: Man. I like Moses seems like a nice kid too.

2239
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:17,759
Speaker 5: Kenny. I'm not sure there's a more underappreciated fighter relative

2240
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 5: to what he's accomplished than Movstar Ivloyev now not to know.

2241
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 5: I think of the UFC all those wins by decision Ray,

2242
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 5: I'm glad to see you acknowledge both of these guys.

2243
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 5: I love seeing out who get showered with not only

2244
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 5: respect in arena, but from his contemporaries and everybody else.

2245
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 5: I think Movstar is probably, relative to accomplishment, the most

2246
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,799
Speaker 5: underappreciated fighter in the sport. The dude it's a monster.

2247
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a I do. I really enjoyed the

2248
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 2: shit out of that fight. I really do. Like I

2249
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: fights like that when you.

2250
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 6: Could walk away and even though you want that w yeah,

2251
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 6: and it could have. I think it probably could have

2252
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 6: went either way. It's no, it's not definitely not a robbery,

2253
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:58,559
Speaker 6: but it was a very very closely contested fight. Yeah,

2254
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:02,679
Speaker 6: I you know, like I just hope al Joe feels

2255
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 6: the exact way I feel. It. Just he put his

2256
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 6: effort in and it was you know, the judges didn't

2257
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 6: agree with it, but I thought it was a great fight,

2258
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 6: and hats off to him. I mean, the only thing,

2259
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 6: you know, for me, I think I told him at

2260
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 6: the beginning of this, and I think I sent them

2261
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 6: some clips I did with a guy in the gym

2262
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 6: because I wasn't in the camp. I think ten out

2263
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 6: of ten times he wins that fight if he's I

2264
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 6: told him, the easiest part of the victory is standing up. Yeah,

2265
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 6: but he could have easily navigated three rounds and just

2266
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 6: out kicked and punched him on every level.

2267
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 4: I think I think the last I think, really the

2268
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,720
Speaker 4: last minute of that fight was the difference is al

2269
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 4: Joe if he didn't go to take the back when

2270
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 4: if Vloyev had that underhook, he would have won the fight.

2271
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 4: And I think he I think he thought when he

2272
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 4: stepped over, he was gonna Runnie Vloyev over, and if

2273
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 4: Loyev knew how to build up his base, he had

2274
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 4: that underhook, got on top of al Joe and then

2275
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 4: kind of turned the tables on him and and finished strong,

2276
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 4: And that probably was the difference. But I mean again,

2277
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 4: I agree, I think al Jo came off looking extremely

2278
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 4: good despite getting the loss. Man that was a really

2279
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:11,719
Speaker 4: close fight.

2280
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 6: And he knows now he, let's see, had a great

2281
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 6: fight with Cata, even though he was very unhappy with

2282
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 6: that fight.

2283
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

2284
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:19,640
Speaker 6: I remember sitting in the car with him going I

2285
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 6: don't even know what you're talking about. Was a beautiful performance,

2286
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 6: and I think he did it again. I think he's

2287
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 6: he knows where he's at at one forty five. I

2288
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 6: mean he was the thirty five pound champ moving up.

2289
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 6: I think he looked great and I think a lot

2290
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 6: of questions were answered about al Jo Man and he

2291
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 6: passed with flying colors.

2292
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 2: To me anyway as a coach.

2293
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 5: No, I think it's a great time to be Algae

2294
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 5: man sterling. And he's going to have rum his funk

2295
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 5: harbor rum intravenously fed into his arm for the next

2296
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 5: six weeks and he's going to be catching a nice

2297
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 5: buzz and it's very exciting. He might be very exciting.

2298
01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 6: He might started that right after the Yeah, he looked

2299
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 6: buckled like three hours after the fun gotta love it

2300
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 6: and got in love for me.

2301
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 5: My fade, Ray Longo parlay, my two leg parlay on

2302
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,759
Speaker 5: mov sorr Ivloyev and Eric anders cashed.

2303
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just kidding.

2304
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,799
Speaker 5: Everybody is so emotionally intelligent.

2305
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 6: If I was, if I was croused, I would have said,

2306
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,560
Speaker 6: so did mine.

2307
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 2: But we don't want to go down.

2308
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,680
Speaker 5: Now, all right, last thing, real quick and I appreciate

2309
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 5: you coming on towards the tail end of the show,

2310
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 5: and a little bit early.

2311
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 2: John, I was literally shot.

2312
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 6: I got I got home, I got home late man,

2313
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 6: I got Yeah.

2314
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 5: No, I understand. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It was it

2315
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 5: was inconsiderate. You know, children come first. I don't know

2316
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 5: what to tell you. So January, Kenny, I want your

2317
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 5: thoughts on this January twenty twenty two. January of twenty

2318
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 5: twenty two, Movsorr iv Loyev was booked to fight Eliotsoportia,

2319
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 5: and I asked Dean Thomas, who is intimately involved communicatively

2320
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 5: with al Jamain Sterling at this stage of his career.

2321
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 5: So I asked Steen Thomas, is Mavsar Ivloye the toughest

2322
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 5: matchup right now for Elio Toporti in the featherweight division?

2323
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 5: And Dean Thomas said no, Al Jamaine Sterling is the

2324
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 5: toughest matchup for Ilio Topotia in the featherweight division. We

2325
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 5: gotta beat Mavsar tonight, right So do you guys believe

2326
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 5: that the Mavsar al Jo stylist is the toughest fight

2327
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 5: for Ilio Topoitia right now? Tougher than Diego Lopez Volk

2328
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 5: or anybody else?

2329
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 6: Right long, do I believe Mozar is the toughest fight

2330
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 6: for Relia?

2331
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah? Was that?

2332
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 2: Was? That?

2333
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 5: Was that a hard question?

2334
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 2: I think Ilia runs right through Mosa.

2335
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 5: Wow. So who do you think is the toughest matchup

2336
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 5: for to.

2337
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 6: I think al Jo's definitely a tougher matchup because he's

2338
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 6: got more, you know, tools in his twol box. I

2339
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 6: think Mozar has proven he's pretty one dimensional at this point.

2340
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 2: Uh uh.

2341
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 5: Okay, Kenny, do you have anything on that?

2342
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I would say al Joe would be more

2343
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 4: of a submission threat if Loyev you know, certainly has

2344
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 4: the wrestling and all that stuff. But I guess, based

2345
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 4: on what I saw against oh gosh, the British fighter

2346
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 4: one on my Arnold Allen, I think that uh Toporia

2347
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 4: would probably have Ivloyev out of there within fifteen minutes.

2348
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 5: All right, So let me ask you guys this, to

2349
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 5: save a dog's life, if you had to send one

2350
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 5: featherweight in there right now to beat iliot Topolia, who

2351
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 5: are you sending in there? You sent al Joe in there?

2352
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would send Aljo Vulk.

2353
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 5: You're saying anyway, and Volk did have some success in

2354
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 5: that fight at UFC two ninety eight, and I do

2355
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 5: think Vulk with rest right. You really have to think

2356
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 5: about it. It's a tough on the spot thing, right. I

2357
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 5: might send MOVs are in there. I might send MOVs

2358
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 5: are in there. I don't know, but we'll see what happens.

2359
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 5: Congratulations to maf sorr Ivloyev uh Ray. Anything else for

2360
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 5: us on UFC three ten or your week before I

2361
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 5: let you fly? Uh Man, I don't know how was

2362
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 5: your week overall? I'm sorry we couldn't break bread.

2363
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we saw each other a little bit.

2364
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry, thank you, Thank god. I threw out

2365
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 5: my page of notes that had all the morob stuff.

2366
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 6: Oh you know, I'll tell you what it's. This guy's

2367
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 6: the guy's out of control. I can't you know. It's funny.

2368
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 6: I stopped to talk to Chuck Zito. By the time

2369
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,240
Speaker 6: I was behind those guys, I saw them throwing a

2370
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 6: guy out, and I'm like, oh shit, did they have

2371
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 6: another did they have another fight?

2372
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

2373
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 5: So if you are watching on YouTube, and we thank

2374
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 5: you for being here live, we're rolling in the video

2375
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 5: of Morob Dwallish Willie getting into this dust up, the premeditated,

2376
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 5: seemingly provocation. But yeah, Morob is a certified lunatic.

2377
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 6: But thank they have to leave him alone, though, John,

2378
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 6: that really just poking the bear at this point.

2379
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 5: Of course, No, of course, and I love that he

2380
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 5: responds in kind. I don't think he should change a thing,

2381
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 5: but hopefully they don't clip that off of me saying that.

2382
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 5: But go ahead, Kenny, I was gonna say.

2383
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 4: And of course, when you say they need to lead

2384
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 4: him alone, leave him alone, of course you're talking about

2385
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 4: ther Maga metof crew, right, Umar and his voice. It

2386
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 4: ended up being like they're all friends, they all hang

2387
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 4: out and they're trying crazy and so again like I

2388
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 4: don't I don't see this ray as a major problem

2389
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 4: for Morob on fight night of giving getting overly emotional.

2390
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 4: What I'm probably concerned with, which probably you are concerned with,

2391
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 4: is him getting in trouble and not being able to

2392
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 4: fight because Morob's in jail somewhere.

2393
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 6: That's correct, That would be a that would be correct.

2394
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, because now it's it's like a

2395
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 6: knee jerk reaction. Everybody knows what they're gonna get at them.

2396
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 6: It kind of kind of sucks. So I'd like to

2397
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 6: see him change it up a little bit and just

2398
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 6: walk away once or twice and you know, mix it

2399
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 6: up a little bit instead of every time it's the

2400
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 6: same reaction. But I'm with you, John, I think I

2401
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 6: love his moxie. I don't know if that's a good.

2402
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 2: Word, but I love his perfect hole, you know what

2403
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 2: I mean.

2404
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 6: I love his the way he carries himself. I know

2405
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 6: him on another level as an individual. He's outstanding individual

2406
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 6: and he's look where we come from. We don't have

2407
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 6: the same type of emotions. That's what's going on over there.

2408
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 6: So whatever is, you know, bringing that out in him,

2409
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 6: you know he's got to learn how to deal with.

2410
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 2: But it's not you know, it's not going to be easy.

2411
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 2: I can tell you that.

2412
01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 5: We've already gone live two hours. But oh, there are

2413
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 5: some other angles on this that I need to get into.

2414
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 5: So my son is just going to be a little

2415
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:47,839
Speaker 5: bit late for his appointment. So announced over the weekend

2416
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 5: for UFC three eleven on January eighteenth, the rematch between

2417
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 5: Islamikashev and armand Sarakian Now was Sarrekian's short notice UFC

2418
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 5: debut in Saint Petersburg, Russian twenty nineteen, when they fought

2419
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 5: first time how the fight title Makasha minus two forty

2420
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 5: five Sarwarky on plus two hundred, and then Marob's first

2421
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 5: title defense coming against Dumarnrmago met up Umar is the

2422
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 5: minus two eighteen betting favorites. Marob Dwallis Willie is the

2423
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 5: plus one eighty underdog. So I don't think Marob wants

2424
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 5: to fight January eighteenth. I think it's way too soon.

2425
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 5: He has talked about a six month vacation seemingly or

2426
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 5: just a process of having six months that he had

2427
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 5: mapped out. You know, he's always training, he's always in shape.

2428
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 5: I think he could beat a lot of these guys

2429
01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 5: if he just had to step out of vacation and

2430
01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 5: step into an octagon. Right, but this is an exceedingly

2431
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 5: quick turnaround, right Blaw Muhammed's turnaround was going to be

2432
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 5: four and a half months. Marob won the belt in

2433
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 5: mid September, So October, November, December, January, it's four months

2434
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 5: just and I think there's a lot of frustration here.

2435
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 5: I think he knows that maybe even if he doesn't

2436
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 5: think Umar is the most deserving that at least on paper,

2437
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:05,280
Speaker 5: he would be favored against anyone, but Umar, I don't know.

2438
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 5: I think the calendar is particularly interesting. Ramadan begins in

2439
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:12,760
Speaker 5: late February, so Umar and Islam both getting featured here

2440
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 5: and getting one in Ray. I don't know what you

2441
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 5: have for us on the calendar. But uh, I'm not

2442
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 5: saying that Morob can't win the fight, to be sure,

2443
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 5: but doesn't seem like he is, you know, super hunky

2444
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 5: dory about competing at UFC three eleven, if I'm being

2445
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 5: totally honest.

2446
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, John, I honestly, when I think I was either

2447
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:31,520
Speaker 6: on the plane.

2448
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:32,680
Speaker 2: Or I thought it was a joke.

2449
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 6: I thought it was one of those things where they

2450
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 6: just somebody just puts out an announcement and you know,

2451
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 6: just that's what they want to see type of deal.

2452
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 6: And then when I ran into Marab he confirmed it

2453
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 6: was true, and I'm like, dude, that's one hundred percent.

2454
02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 2: Wasn't happy about that, you know, you know what I mean.

2455
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 2: So I think it's you know, bullshit, But what are

2456
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 2: you gonna do?

2457
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I think for a guy like Morab, I

2458
02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 4: think he's gonna fight the same way every single time, right,

2459
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 4: So it's not like, oh, I got to change my tactic.

2460
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 4: But I think where the problem lies is, like John's

2461
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:08,360
Speaker 4: talking about the quick turnaround, you just did a hell

2462
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:11,080
Speaker 4: of a camp. These are five round camps. These aren't

2463
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:13,840
Speaker 4: just three round fights. And he's taken on the best

2464
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:17,440
Speaker 4: of the best every single time out. And as a fighter,

2465
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 4: you want to look to give yourself any advantage you can, right,

2466
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 4: And when you're giving those things up to appease others,

2467
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:28,400
Speaker 4: or you're getting pressured into doing those things, that's where

2468
02:01:28,440 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 4: you can maybe encounter some hiccups. So I'm a little

2469
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 4: concerned as well. I think it's important to talk about

2470
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 4: gotta be interesting.

2471
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, look but Rob's always in shape.

2472
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:40,640
Speaker 6: That's a I don't even think the point is a

2473
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:44,320
Speaker 6: quick turnaround like four months. I think to me, I

2474
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:46,840
Speaker 6: think it's psychologically you're being.

2475
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 2: Told you have to do something that you don't want

2476
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 2: to do.

2477
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:52,960
Speaker 6: And I think that's what really And that might sound

2478
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:56,080
Speaker 6: trivial to a lot of people, but I know when

2479
02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:58,760
Speaker 6: al Joe's case with the O'Malley thing, he won one

2480
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty said didn't want to take that fight,

2481
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 6: he just didn't. He made it very clear, and then

2482
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:07,080
Speaker 6: he just kept pushing and pushing and you could see

2483
02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:12,600
Speaker 6: that interaction which was horrendous. Where he's gonna steal you.

2484
02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 6: I mean, who says that you're gonna you could it's

2485
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 6: a chance for you to steal O'Malley's fan base. Really,

2486
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 6: what does that ever happen where somebody gets another guy's

2487
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:21,680
Speaker 6: fan base?

2488
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:27,320
Speaker 2: Is your fan base? Is your fan base through and through?

2489
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2490
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:32,160
Speaker 6: That's really it so uh, it's it's not the turnaround.

2491
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 6: I think it's being told to do something you're just

2492
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 6: not in alignment with, and you know you want to

2493
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:38,960
Speaker 6: make your own decisions at some point.

2494
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:42,280
Speaker 5: Well, and it's the mindset too. Even though we sometimes

2495
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 5: joke about Marab being half man, half machine, he's celebrating

2496
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 5: his World championship, he's going to Georgia, he's traveling the world.

2497
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:54,040
Speaker 5: He's focused on al Jamin Sterling's training camp. And now

2498
02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 5: we sit here December ninth, and he's making his first

2499
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 5: title defense on January eighteenth. And if you really want

2500
02:02:59,960 --> 02:03:02,440
Speaker 5: to know how I feel, and maybe I shouldn't even

2501
02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 5: know pine, but it's so hasty, hastily stepping into this

2502
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 5: title defense. I really don't understand it, and maybe I

2503
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 5: shouldn't opine with you right here, because there was pressure

2504
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 5: on alesch Andre Pantosia to defend this title in Perth,

2505
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 5: which would have been systematically insane for him to do.

2506
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 2: So.

2507
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 5: I don't know why cooler heads didn't prevail, or why

2508
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:26,280
Speaker 5: Team Dwalash Willie, of which you are apart, didn't. You know,

2509
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 5: it seems like you landed to the news. But you know,

2510
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:31,640
Speaker 5: I don't know. I think it's a storyline.

2511
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely I'll tell you right now. I'm not

2512
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 2: happy about it. Yeah yeah, but.

2513
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 6: You know, well, hey, hey, I mean that guy can't

2514
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 6: enjoy Christmas obviously, so his holiday, Sean Glenn, everybody gets

2515
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:45,920
Speaker 6: to enjoy whatever religion.

2516
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:46,600
Speaker 4: That's what I mean.

2517
02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:49,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it's crazy though, you're just kind

2518
02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 2: of pissing on the kid at this point.

2519
02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:54,640
Speaker 4: Well, those are the things that will wear on you mentally, physical.

2520
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:56,880
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's not the turnaround. Rob could

2521
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 2: fight ten times in a month. It has nothing to

2522
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 2: do with that.

2523
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 6: It's just you know, you get the belt. He worked

2524
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:06,720
Speaker 6: his fucking asshole for that. He had to run through

2525
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:09,600
Speaker 6: hoops to get there, right, Let.

2526
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:11,240
Speaker 2: The guy enjoy it a little bit. Man.

2527
02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:13,600
Speaker 6: That was a huge run he had to get to

2528
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 6: that title. And I don't know, man, it is.

2529
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:22,600
Speaker 5: What it is, man, seventy seven plus thirty is a

2530
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 5: one hundred and seven hundred and eight, So one hundred

2531
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:30,600
Speaker 5: and eight plus Yeah, I mean you're talking about like

2532
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:34,360
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five days to enjoy your world championship.

2533
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Speaker 5: And we've talked about the jesskon drav situation where she

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Speaker 5: slams rosenama Unis and then takes a shower and goes

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02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 5: and puts the belt on the line against John Wade

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02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:45,840
Speaker 5: Lee in China, which was the most wayward decision for

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Speaker 5: a champion in UFC history.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:50,640
Speaker 5: So, I don't know, man, I was so stunned at

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Speaker 5: this news, but.

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Speaker 2: I was I've suck John. I'm with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: But hey, it is what it is, and we're all

2543
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:58,840
Speaker 5: working in mixed martial arts and we get to do

2544
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:01,480
Speaker 5: this all grat two on a Monday morning. Ray, have

2545
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 5: a great day. We love you anything else before we

2546
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:05,360
Speaker 5: let you fly, my good man.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: The only thing that hit me was as I was

2549
02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:12,240
Speaker 6: I was in the Octaga for two early fights. I

2550
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Speaker 6: don't I don't know theo Von, but you got to

2551
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 6: give it up to the guy. Man.

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Speaker 2: That guy was there. I seen him jumping around by himself.

2553
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,840
Speaker 2: There was no seats that you know, you couldn't miss him.

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02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 2: I thought, this, this is a guy that's really into

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Speaker 2: m M A man. He was right there from the beginning.

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Speaker 4: So one of the funniest guys, one of the funniest

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 2: Too hysterical. Well yeah, it's not even I've never even

2559
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 2: seen his zacht, but I've listened to him. I think

2560
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Speaker 2: the guy's fucking hysterical. I don't know if he knows

2561
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:40,120
Speaker 2: he's hysterical. He's a funny.

2562
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 5: Cat, and the three of us all have similar but

2563
02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 5: different sense of humors, and we all think he is

2564
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 5: one of the funniest men right now and a really

2565
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:50,080
Speaker 5: good human being as well. And yes he did, uh

2566
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Speaker 5: he did beat the broadcast team to the floor. Wow,

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Speaker 5: so wow, I love I.

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Speaker 2: Love I love that stuff. Man. That's great.

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Speaker 5: All right, buddy, Well, we appreciate and I know it

2570
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 5: was a little bit of a challenging week, but we

2571
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:05,680
Speaker 5: look forward to talking to you next Monday, and welcome

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Speaker 5: home all right.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, guys, have a great one you too. There.

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02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 5: He is the Ray Longo minute every week here on

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02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 5: the Anak and Florian podcast, And I know our listeners

2576
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:16,240
Speaker 5: want us to bring back the drop of ray saying,

2577
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 5: you know, punch of holeness, fucking chest. We were going

2578
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:20,640
Speaker 5: to do so today, but just given the time, we

2579
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Speaker 5: wanted to maximize it with Raymond Peter Longo. All right, Kenny,

2580
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 5: on the way out. UFC three twelve two fight announcements.

2581
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Speaker 5: The main event the rematch between Driacus du plus c

2582
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Speaker 5: and Sean Strickland. Do plus ce minus one thirty on

2583
02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:35,720
Speaker 5: Drafting sportsbook right now, very close there. Sean Strickland comes

2584
02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 5: back plus one ten. No line as yet as I've

2585
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 5: seen Joan way Lee in defense against Tatiana Suarez. Fascinating

2586
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:46,640
Speaker 5: fight there, just stylistically to see if Suarez can get

2587
02:06:46,680 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 5: it done any early Lean in terms of those four

2588
02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 5: athletes at UFC three twelve before we let you fly.

2589
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, in case you forgot Tatiana Suarez one

2590
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:57,320
Speaker 4: of the best female wrestlers out there right now. I

2591
02:06:57,320 --> 02:07:00,160
Speaker 4: think she matches up very well against Joan way Lee.

2592
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:03,040
Speaker 4: I would give her the advantage heading into that and

2593
02:07:03,720 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 4: just based on their first fight. While I do think

2594
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:09,640
Speaker 4: that Sean Strickland can make some adjustments in that fight

2595
02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:11,360
Speaker 4: to get a much better result than to come out

2596
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:14,560
Speaker 4: the champ, i'd have to be leaning towards DDP in

2597
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 4: that one. Dric As Duplass, I think also is a

2598
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:21,160
Speaker 4: guy that learns very well from his fights and his

2599
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 4: experience and should should have the advantage in that one

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 5: All Right, we got to bounce on out of here.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to everybody for joining us live. If you stuck

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02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 5: out the whole two hours and ten minutes, we appreciate

2604
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 5: the heck out of that. We're back next Monday. We'll

2605
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 5: recap UFC fight night Covington versus Buckley. I might actually

2606
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 5: attend the show in Tampa, Flora as a fan for

2607
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Speaker 5: the first three in thirteen years, so we'll see if

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02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,880
Speaker 5: I make the drive, but we'll recap it with you

2609
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Speaker 5: next week. And then don't forget the Ani Conflorent Podcast

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Speaker 5: Awards coming up in a couple of weeks as well.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to everybody for supporting this show. To hear the

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Speaker 5: Anti Conmplorent podcast get announced with its nomination in that

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Speaker 5: category of MMA programming, and to hear our contemporaries cheer

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02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 5: for our show was really special on Thursday night. So

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02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 5: thank you to everybody for supporting this podcast. As we

2616
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:13,200
Speaker 5: come up on our ten year anniversary next year, you

2617
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 5: can further support the show by going to Kenny Florian

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Speaker 5: dot com and our merchandise can be found at John

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Speaker 5: Anni dot com. Promo code black four fifteen percent off.

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Speaker 5: Thank you to our producer Cody Merrow for Brian Petrie, Ray,

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Speaker 5: long go and can't flow. John Anix signed off for now.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk to you next Monday. Until then, have a

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Speaker 5: great day and a better evening. YO fucking later