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Speaker 1: Welcome back to our number two of the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steeler's Nation Radio, and it is mock draft time here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's see what.

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Speaker 1: All the moves and if everything has happened here in

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Speaker 1: the last let's remember now it's really been about three

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Speaker 1: four days. Yeah, that all this stuff has happened.

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Speaker 2: The tampering period started one week ago, right one, wee

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Speaker 2: could go today, right, a week and an hour ago.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Wow, let's see where the Steelers stand here. So we're

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Speaker 1: doing this one on the Pro Footballnetwork dot COM's mock

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Speaker 1: draft simulator, and I've run the early portion here and

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Speaker 1: our pick is up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we have three trade offers. Nice, Okay, we keep

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Speaker 2: talking about trading down slightly, and you know, round one,

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay's on the phone. Okay, it's a long way

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Speaker 2: to go.

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay has twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry that they were picking.

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Speaker 1: No, No, they have twenty six and they're offering next

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Speaker 1: year's first Oh wow for pick twenty and pick one

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Speaker 1: ninety five.

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Speaker 2: That's a yes for me. But let's see what else

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Speaker 2: is on the future. First. When you might be in

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Speaker 2: the quarterback market, you might not be yeah right right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That would be huge. Okay, the Dolphins are on the

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Speaker 1: phone to move down the one spot. Miami is willing

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Speaker 1: to give us their twenty twenty five third round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: That's a yes as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but we also have the Eagles on the phone,

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles want to give us the twenty second

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Speaker 1: pick for twenty and they want to give us one twenty,

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Speaker 1: which would be a fourth round pick this year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'd rather get earlier. I mean, I don't mind

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Speaker 2: throwing some juice back at them, but I know we

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Speaker 2: can counter these things still, Yeah, who do you want

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Speaker 2: to talk to? I don't I mean, the future first

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Speaker 2: is great.

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Speaker 1: The future first is great. But we moved back six spots.

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Speaker 1: Here are some of the guys still available late to

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Speaker 1: know what?

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Speaker 2: Do we know what we're looking at?

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Speaker 1: Let me let me close this window here so late

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Speaker 1: there QUINYA. Mitchell was there, Yeah, A'marus Mims is there.

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Speaker 1: Jerson Newton, Jackson, Powers Johnson, Cooper Dejeen, Byron Murphy, cool

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Speaker 1: A McKinstry, Tyler, Geiton, key On, Coleman, bow Nicks, Graham Barton,

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Speaker 1: and Donnie Mitchell. Like, there's still a lot.

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Speaker 2: There were four names I was very comfortable with Mitchell, Mitchell, Mims,

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Speaker 2: Dejene and Powers Johnson. Yeah, doesn't mean we can't go

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Speaker 2: twenty six. The chance of those four being the next

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Speaker 2: four picks, or four to the next five is probably

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Speaker 2: pretty slim. And I would think somebody wants late to

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Speaker 2: or Knicks. Yeah, you know, I mean usually trade up

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Speaker 2: for one of those. Let me see here you want

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Speaker 2: to go, you know, to talk to going down two spots.

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Speaker 2: They just didn't give us much. I mean, Miami gave

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Speaker 2: us a lot.

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Speaker 1: Miami's given us a third to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a better deal. If we have

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Speaker 2: a third, we I'd rather have Miami's third next year

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Speaker 2: than the Eagles fourth.

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Speaker 1: If we have that third next year, we can potentially

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Speaker 1: that gives us more ammunition to move up in the

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Speaker 1: second round.

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Speaker 2: I know that's hard to do on these programs, but

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Speaker 2: that's in the real world. You'd be loaded with next

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Speaker 2: year picks. Yeah, I'm gonna loaded that.

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Speaker 1: I could go my second round pick in the next

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Speaker 1: fourth next year to come up ten spots in the

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Speaker 1: second round easily.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that wouldn't be problematic at all. I think

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Speaker 2: we'd moved on. I just want to take the one

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Speaker 2: and move down one spot and be happy with the third.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean with the Eagles pick, we're only moving

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Speaker 1: down two spots.

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Speaker 2: I know. And again there's four names I'm picking up

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Speaker 2: for fourth. Let me see if what they'll do it

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Speaker 2: for a third. I'd rather have their third this year

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Speaker 2: than well.

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Speaker 1: They so they have twenty two, fifty fifty three. If

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Speaker 1: I can get one of those, I can really move up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to offer

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Speaker 1: them something more. Let's just see if they'll give us

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Speaker 1: fifty three if I throw in ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I would do that too. I bet that's a no. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they did because they were off from one to twenty.

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Speaker 2: They don't have anything like in the eighties. No, they don't.

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Speaker 1: That's why I make this. I mean we could. I

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Speaker 1: could offer them. We have a pick at eighty four

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Speaker 1: that I could.

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Speaker 2: Offer them, so it would go we'd go from down

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Speaker 2: two spots in the first round, we'd go from eighty

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Speaker 2: four to the fifties. Yeah, I would do that. Considering

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Speaker 2: what's on the board right now, I definitely do that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm offering pick twenty and pick eighty four for

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Speaker 1: pick twenty two and pick fifty.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say yes that if I were them, but

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Speaker 2: it's worth a shot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't like that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're not easy to deal with all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden because they don't have any of the picks.

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Speaker 1: They don't have any picks. So let's take a look

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Speaker 1: at that, at Miami's offer to move down one Let's

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Speaker 1: see if I can counter that to get something a

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Speaker 1: little a little bit more in this year's draft day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be nice. Maybe we could turn one of

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Speaker 2: our sixes into a five, so they we have.

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Speaker 1: Fifty one eighty four, ninety eight, one nineteen, one seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: one ninety five. They've got twenty one fifty five one

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Speaker 1: fifty eight, so they got a big gap in their draft.

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Speaker 2: Can we turn one ninety five into one fifty eight

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Speaker 2: and the original deal? See what I'm saying to get

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Speaker 2: their third let me move down one spot.

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Speaker 1: Let me see if they like that or not. They

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Speaker 1: accepted that, all right, all right, so moved down one spot.

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Speaker 1: We moved down a spot. Now the Browns are on

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Speaker 1: the phone. They got picked fifty four.

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Speaker 2: We're not that's too far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not doing that. The Colts have. They're on

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Speaker 1: the phone with pick forty six, pick eighty two, and

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Speaker 1: next year's second round pick for twenty one.

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Speaker 2: That's lovely, but I think I think we stick and.

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Speaker 1: To reject that one. And the Rams went off US

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Speaker 1: fifty two, eighty three, ninety nine next year second and

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Speaker 1: third round picks to come in at twenty for twenty

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Speaker 1: one and one seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna reject that, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the pick that the Dolphins made was late to okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: wuenya and Mitchell is still there?

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Speaker 2: Do we take him over to Jeene? I think the

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Speaker 2: answer is probably yes at ye point. But the I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's hard to pass on Mims. It's hard to pass

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Speaker 2: on the best center kind of completes your defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you take them. We have extra picks now, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll figure out some line stuff, all right, Quenn you

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Speaker 2: Mitchell it is. And I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of viewing this here now, okay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I paused here at pick thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of viewing these mocks like there's one more

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Speaker 2: receiver on the roster than there is right now too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that Stephan Diggs or you know,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyder better you know. Yeah, now I hear you.

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Speaker 1: So four picks are off the board. Now here in

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Speaker 1: round two, chargers are up. I'm gonna call washingtonn't pick forty?

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Speaker 2: Who you after?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come up and get our center, okay available.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he lasts until pick fifty one.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. What number are you at?

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Speaker 1: We're thirty six right now. I'm gonna I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: on the phone with Washington and see if who of

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Speaker 1: the next couple you get the Chargers, the Titans, and

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Speaker 1: the Panthers picks are coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they probably don't know that Bozeman got

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Speaker 2: signed a minute ago.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call. I'm gonna call Washington, all right and

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Speaker 1: see they have pick forty. I'm gonna offer them pick fifty.

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Speaker 2: One something next year, since we got picked up a

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Speaker 2: third next year.

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Speaker 1: So right now we have a first, a second, two thirds,

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Speaker 1: a fourth, two fifths, a seventh, and two seventh. So

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, three sevenths, actually three sevenths. Oh, we have

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Speaker 1: four to sevenths next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's two from the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Right, we got a ridiculous amount of picks next year.

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Speaker 2: I know a fifth is not gonna get us there,

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Speaker 2: but maybe a fifth in the fifth this year, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just trying to I'm gonna try.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna offer them the Rams fifth, okay, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna offer them, uh, pick one nineteen Okay, that's a

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Speaker 1: fourth and a fifth to come up to forty. And

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Speaker 1: if they throw in.

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Speaker 2: That's a long way for them to go back though.

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Speaker 1: Pick two twenty two. They've already made one second round picks,

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Speaker 1: They've already they've already made two picks.

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Speaker 2: They have two in the books. Then, okay, that's what

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Speaker 2: the shot.

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Speaker 1: So I'm offering fifty one to one nineteen and next

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Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five fifth for forty and two twenty two. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna offer it again.

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Speaker 2: Do without twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with that twenty two. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might as well at least ask.

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Speaker 1: So fifty one one nineteen in a fifth next year

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Speaker 1: four pick forty.

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Speaker 2: That was rejected. Well, let's let's let like five picks,

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Speaker 2: roll by and try again and hope that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they just took. So the picks there after that

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Speaker 1: were Troy Franklin, Rukro, hero Isa desa Isaac, and Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 1: So the packers are up now at forty one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well let's make him a similar offer.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what what packers. If the packers were interested,

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Speaker 1: so that would be fifty one for forty one. They

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Speaker 1: also have fifty eight coming up here. So they got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of picks. Holy Macro, I didn't realize how

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Speaker 1: may get those?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They got a bunch of picks from me in in here.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh man, they have like as many picks

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Speaker 1: in this year's draft as we have next year.

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Speaker 2: They probably don't want to trade down. Then they probably

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Speaker 2: want trade up of.

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Speaker 1: Those unless I offer them a next year pick. So

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Speaker 1: for fifty one, what if I offer them that?

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Speaker 2: Rams Fish offer them a similar deal? Yeah, I still

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Speaker 2: don't know what they're gonna say. Yes, I mean fifty

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Speaker 2: fifth next year is like a six this year.

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Speaker 1: They rejected it. All right, we're gonna run out of here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I let a couple picks roll off.

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Speaker 1: Fraser just went to the Falcons. Kay, which if that

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Speaker 1: were to happen, They've got Drew Dolman at center.

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Speaker 2: No, you could go that could be another option.

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Speaker 1: That would be another option.

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Speaker 2: Go get the other teams old guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's not bad, oh no, no.

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Speaker 2: And they obviously there's familiarity there. Yeah. I mean he's

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Speaker 2: a good movement guy. Okay, but we're on the clock, right,

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Speaker 2: we're on the clock here. Trade's really hard and it's

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Speaker 1: So, the Dolphins are on the phone again. They were

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Speaker 1: offering us pick fifty five and their fourth round pick

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Speaker 1: next year. Miami just wants to trade a certain entire

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Speaker 2: That's fine. I mean there's not a center I'd like

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Speaker 2: know what's available, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to take a look here at that.

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Speaker 1: And then the Cowboys are offering picks fifty six and

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Speaker 2: On the neither sound bad, but yeah, on.

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Speaker 1: The so Byron Murphy is still available. Wow, that's that's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Jordan Morgan, Tovandre Sweat, Cooper Beebie, Edgrin

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Speaker 1: Jatavian Sanders, Ben Sinnett, Chris Jenkins, Max Melton, Peyton Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Where all the receivers at get Roman Wilson is still there.

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Speaker 1: We took it.

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Speaker 2: We took I think it's cheating taking the Texas tackle,

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Speaker 2: not Sweat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I do as well.

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Speaker 2: So let's move down a couple again and then ban

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Speaker 2: ourselves from trades. Okay, let's move back five spots or so.

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Speaker 2: I don't like what sitting there except for Murphy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so we got one team offering. Miami's offering

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Speaker 1: their fourth, the Cowboys are offering their fourth. It's a

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Speaker 1: difference of one pick this year Byami as fifty five.

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Speaker 2: Rather Miami's pick. Thank. I think Dallas would division. I

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Speaker 2: accepted it.

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Speaker 1: Now the Bengals are on the front, everybody, with everybody.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers are dealing deal.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna reject both of these trade offers here. We're

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Speaker 1: get Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Paul okay, which makes sense? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Then Edrian Cooper went, Cole Bishop went, Jordan Morgan. Murphy's

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Speaker 1: still there. That's we can't take him. He doesn't fit

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Speaker 1: our defense. Rakestrow would be interesting, but we took a corner,

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Speaker 2: We don't need him. I like Melton too.

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Speaker 1: Melton is still there.

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Speaker 2: I think we have to sort by this corner. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what's a tackle, receiver, corner.

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Speaker 1: Situation, offensive tackle. I don't think we're gonna be all No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have about any of them. Defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think you wait there, Yeah, how about receiver and center?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know the top three centers are gone.

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Speaker 1: So wide receiver. You're looking at the Roman Wilson Xavier

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Speaker 1: to get Ricky Piersoll.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Roman Wilson. Yeah, I think I've heard yet.

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Speaker 2: He's the best option. I think I'm happy with him there.

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Speaker 2: It's just, yeah, this isn't the plan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think of Roman Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you started adding some big people.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, all right, we're not making anymore a lot

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Speaker 1: more picks. Yeah, we've we still have ninety eight, one,

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Speaker 1: nineteen and one fifty eight, but we have LinkedIn after this,

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Speaker 1: and we have a bunch of we have eighty four

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Speaker 1: here as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: At offensive tackle you have Roger Rosengarten that's not awful,

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Speaker 1: Yale tackle, and Blake Fisher.

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Speaker 2: I would be happy with any of those.

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Speaker 1: I like Fisher better than the others.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's fine, you do that. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's worth Like the center.

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Speaker 1: The centers is Bordolini, Bolimmer, I may consider them.

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Speaker 2: Of the next pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're into that.

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Speaker 2: Let's take the tackle.

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Speaker 1: Blake Fisher is the pick.

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Speaker 2: He might be your starting right from day one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, plenty of experience. Okay, we're back up here at

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Speaker 1: ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: Bortolini, gone, I doubt it, probably not. No, you might

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Speaker 2: even get him next round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still there.

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Speaker 2: Who's best availables or someone just just jumping off the board.

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Speaker 1: Best available you're looking at, will Shipley, Javon Bullard, Blake

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Speaker 1: Quorham McKinley, Jackson, Yale tackle is still there, Johnny Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Dominic Pooney, Austin Booker, James Williams, Spencer Rattler, Josh Newton, Rattler.

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Speaker 2: I consider that. Yeah, this draft hasn't exactly gone to script.

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Speaker 2: It is not.

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Speaker 1: So we still don't have a set to get left.

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Speaker 2: When's our next pick?

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Speaker 1: We pick again at UH one nineteen, This is pick

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Speaker 1: ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Bordolini or the Arkins Limmur would be there?

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Speaker 2: I think one of them falls, probably, and it's not ideal.

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Speaker 2: But I think you take back. I think you grab

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Speaker 2: the quarterback here.

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Speaker 1: I can't argue with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the way things are rolling.

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Speaker 1: Michael Pratt is there as well, as is Jordan Travis,

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Speaker 1: Joe Milton. You like Rattler the best of those, I think,

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Speaker 1: all right, Spencer Rattler.

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Speaker 2: It is not loving this draft.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not either. All right. We're back up here now.

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Speaker 2: And center would be a priority unless there's somebody that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: He's still there. Massan Smith is still there. We've not

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Speaker 2: done the tackle, We've not when's our next pick we have?

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Speaker 1: Our next pick is at one fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: So right now or never on center?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the center is still available, bo Limmer, Hunter, Nor's Ad,

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Speaker 1: Charles Turner, Drake Nugent, Kingsley, Echkon. I know that Mason

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Speaker 1: Smith and all those guys, I'd rather have Mason Smith

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Speaker 1: or Massan.

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Speaker 2: That I know. It's Sedan. Yeah, okay, yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: Massan Smith it is yeah, all right, I'm gonna getting

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Speaker 2: players we like. It's just not the script we wanted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we're back up here again. And let me

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Speaker 1: see if any of those centers dimmer. It's hunter like.

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Speaker 2: Count of those guys who make the team. Yeah, if

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Speaker 2: they like beat at Spencer Anderson, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean that's a possibility.

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Speaker 2: Disability and there's practice squad and never bad to I

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Speaker 2: mean you can even add a guard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh, Javan Cohen is still there at guard. Best

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Speaker 1: of ail is Ray Davis, the running back out of Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: I like him. But where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey still there.

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Speaker 2: I said, what about a second receiver? Maybe be a

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Speaker 2: maybe a big one. But McCaffrey's fine too. He's different

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Speaker 2: than Wilson. And when they'll stand out to you and

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Speaker 2: best available not.

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Speaker 1: Really no, yuck, Yeah, unless you want to take a

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Speaker 1: true slot corner type.

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Speaker 2: I've got a linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Uh, who's still there? Aaron Casey, Curtis Jacobs, Merrist the OFFU.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping somebody stood out that was too good

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Speaker 2: to be true type of safety.

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Speaker 1: Evan Williams, Josh Proctor, Patrick mcmrris.

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Speaker 2: Slot corner is still a need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean i'd like so you get DAYK one, Hardy, MJ. Devonshire,

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Brownlee, Jerry and Jones.

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Speaker 2: Jones is a true slot right Yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: that's a borderline starter for you.

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Speaker 1: Let's do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all right, Jerry and Jones.

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Speaker 1: It is okay, Well we have still have another pick

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Speaker 1: here yet. I didn't realize that we got one seventy

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Speaker 1: eight here. We acquired that, so no, that's that was

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Speaker 1: one of me.

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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the originals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's when we think we got coming back

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Speaker 1: from Philadelphia. Yea, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, let's see here.

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Speaker 1: Uh Drake Nugent at center.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might even consider it back if it's best available.

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Speaker 1: Ray Davis is still there and Cohen is still there.

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Speaker 2: Eh.

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Speaker 1: Ray Davis though, is good.

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Speaker 2: He is. He's a little older than you think, but

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Speaker 2: who cares. I mean, yeah, it probably he could be

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Speaker 2: a borderline starter. Now about Eric all at tight end, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that.

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Speaker 2: I would do that.

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Speaker 1: I can't go with an Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I could see them keeping four this year too. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I like that pick. This craft kind of stunk. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 2: I don't know it's because of all the trade downs.

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Speaker 2: I mean really made two of them, I think. But

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Speaker 2: we have a ton of future picks.

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Speaker 1: We got Miami's third and fourth next year.

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Speaker 2: Which is pretty awesome, which is pretty reloaded with next year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but we got Quinna Mitchell in the first. Then

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Speaker 1: we took Roman Wilson in the second. In the third,

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Speaker 1: we got Blake Fisher. Now our other third round pick,

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Speaker 1: we got Spencer Rattler, Okay, Then we took Massan Smith

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Speaker 1: at one nineteen fifty eight, we got Jerry and Jones,

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Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Florida State, and at won seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: Eric all the tight end out of Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Just didn't get the center tackles we wanted. Now that's

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Speaker 2: my that's my problem with it. Always.

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Speaker 1: I'd be fine with Blake Fisher though in the third round.

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Speaker 2: Oh I did too. I mean, like, I don't think

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Speaker 2: Fisher is a third round pick is bad by any stretch.

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Speaker 1: I think most year's Blake Fisher's the second round pick too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, it might.

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Speaker 1: Be like one of those early second round.

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Speaker 2: Picks could be could be. I mean he got a

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Speaker 2: guy with.

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Speaker 1: A lot of starting experience at Notre Dame. You know

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Speaker 1: he's been coached.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they must always hit two. I mean they

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Speaker 2: didn't like rarely bust. I just wanted a stud alignement

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Speaker 2: out of this draft, and then we didn't get a

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Speaker 2: Studo Aliman.

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Speaker 1: I might have gotten stud corner.

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Speaker 2: Though, right the d could have got really good.

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Speaker 1: We might have gotten a stud wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. No, I don't like any of the picks

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Speaker 2: in a vacuum.

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Speaker 1: So again, if this, if this draft were to his

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Speaker 1: because Massan Smith realizes his potential.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like if he's really in the mix with

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Speaker 2: Cam and Bent in a year from now, like right

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Speaker 2: there with them. Yeah, you're really doing.

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Speaker 1: Because you know Mitchell's you was hoping he's going to

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Speaker 1: be in Wilson's going to be in the mixed. Fisher

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Speaker 1: might be your starting starting attack. So if Massan Smith hits, you're.

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Speaker 2: Like, wow, I mean your defense is really good after

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Speaker 2: this draft. Yeah, I mean you signed the safety, you

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Speaker 2: added a d tackle. You've got to maybe the long

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Speaker 2: term starter. Yeah, they like Jackson enough. I don't think

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Speaker 2: they would use the first round pick on it corner.

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Speaker 2: But he was the best thing eventual, is it right?

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Speaker 1: Clearly the best guy still avail.

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Speaker 2: Then make it work. Maybe Jackson plays some slot, maybe

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Speaker 2: Mitchell plays some slot. I don't know, but figure it out.

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Speaker 2: The d would be really good maybe for years to come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that set you up to do some

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Speaker 1: do some stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I would take door number two on this draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't my favor.

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Speaker 2: Love. Yeah, I love that we got all those future picks,

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Speaker 2: but the trade downs I don't think killed us. I

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Speaker 2: just think there were some runs on things that we.

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Speaker 1: If we could have traded back up, if you'd been

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Speaker 1: able to make that move to trade back up and

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Speaker 1: get the center, Yeah, and then take a receiver in

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Speaker 1: round three.

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Speaker 2: There was a spot there you mentioned Johnny Wilson where

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'd love to take him, but they

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Speaker 2: took took me, and it was like the fourth round

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Speaker 2: or something like that. You know, there's a couple guys

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Speaker 2: that stood out so didn't go our way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, let's get through another break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive. You're on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Steeler fans. You can get up with the

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Speaker 1: or Tangle out Let's. We can visit online at shop

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Speaker 1: dot Steelers dot com. And Matt, there's gonna be some

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Speaker 1: single digit numbers this year that you that you can buy.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, no doubt about it from the pro shop.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about it, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: From the pro shop.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if Clean Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Steelers are going to give

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Speaker 1: Justin Field's number one, that's what he.

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Speaker 2: Was already wore. Yeah, who they have a one? They don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they haven't had a one, and.

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Speaker 2: They have they ever had a one? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, many years. I think they've a long time ago

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Speaker 1: they had a zero. Okay, but yeah, they don't. They

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Speaker 1: don't be some fun New Jersey about it.

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Speaker 2: That's for sure. Let alone who the first round pick

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Speaker 2: is going to be? And ye type of things to uh.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Reid has updated his top fifty pros to look

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Speaker 1: at that I haven't picked for the NFL coming NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft here, so uh. He still has Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 1: number one. Would you.

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Speaker 2: I think I would.

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Speaker 1: I think he's pretty safe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I would. I might have two

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Speaker 2: or three receivers above all the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: He is Caleableilliams two.

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Speaker 2: I see it. I'm it's not uncommon. Of course.

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Speaker 1: Drake May three.

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Speaker 2: There's so much negative buzz on Drake May right now

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Speaker 2: makes me think that the league loves them.

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Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors four. Okay, Jade and Daniels five, Yeah, adds

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Speaker 1: up Joe Alt six.

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Speaker 2: Let's say it's gonna be tackle time pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Rome A dunez A seven, sure at eight still has

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Speaker 1: oulu Pushanu.

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Speaker 2: He didn't do a whole lot wrong. It's just a

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Speaker 2: lot of people did a lot of stuff right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean he is, except for the small hands thing

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Speaker 2: and just not being able to show stuff.

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Speaker 1: Brock Bauers nine, I get it. Dallas Turner ten.

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Speaker 2: So do you think brock Bauers to the Jets is

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Speaker 2: a possibility after they signed Tackles.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I mocked to them.

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Speaker 2: I think I did two. I can't remember if I

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Speaker 2: did it or not. I was planning on and it

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Speaker 2: gave a strong consideration. I couldn't remember.

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Speaker 1: Because they just think they just need weapons.

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Speaker 2: They see weapons right now.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Conklin is not that tight end for them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they sign Odell or Mike Williams or whatever,

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Speaker 2: ours is different. So just to pull back the curtain,

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Speaker 2: you and I and Mike pursued are going to film

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Speaker 2: our our mocks tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll drop late later this week, later this week.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean we all we both all three

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Speaker 2: of us did a mock. Just so it's the last

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: Check that out on Steelers dot com. I want to

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Speaker 1: see who meant and I picked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually turned out to be the same person.

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Speaker 2: As you said. You're you're the editor, So I think

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Speaker 2: we both had so many different Yeah, okay at twenty nice?

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Speaker 1: Uh so Dallas Turner at ten is he your top edge?

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Speaker 2: He was? Yeah, I turned in my edge triple take

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Speaker 2: stuff not by leaps and bounds. He's a little more

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Speaker 2: finesse than I like, but I think he's probably first

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Speaker 2: defensive player off the board. I could see maybe a corner.

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Speaker 1: I could see a cornerback woman before him.

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Speaker 2: I could do.

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Speaker 1: At eleven, hees Terry and Arnold. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that would be my top corner now think it's Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: It might be Mitchell. Arnold didn't test quite as well.

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Speaker 2: As I thought he was going to Mitchell's freak here. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean competition is very different obviously.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Is Verse at twelve?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Then you have Talisi Fluaga sure at thirteen, Lea Latu

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Speaker 1: at fourteen another edge, So that's three edges.

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Speaker 2: He's nice to see three edges in the top nineteen. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I think it's quite possible.

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Speaker 1: That's three in the top fourteen right there. QUINNYA Mitchell

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Speaker 1: at fifteen, fine, okay. Sixteen is JC Latham.

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Speaker 2: I would have him over for Waga, but I get it.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen is Byron Murphy.

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Speaker 2: You want him to go in the top nineteen two? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance. There's several decent landing spots.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen is Troy Fatanu. Yeah, nice. Now you're happy with

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Speaker 1: him at twenty nineteen? Is our Marius Mims.

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Speaker 2: I would be fine with him at twenty, But to me,

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Speaker 2: he's the guy you think at twenty three after a

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Speaker 2: trade down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, twenty a Donnie Mitchell, I get it.

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Speaker 2: He's weird though his highs are so high. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of raw else that he just jogs. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean like he's he needs a somewhat of a fire

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Speaker 2: lit under him. But he's right there with Thomas in

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Speaker 2: terms of just pure ability and highlight filmize. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean Seed, the Steelers are still really wide receiver needy

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Speaker 2: at twenty Him and Thomas are the only names I

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Speaker 2: would under understand.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one Cooper de Gene, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Our opinion hasn't changed on him one.

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Speaker 1: Bit, not one bit? Right twenty two Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I like Thomas better than Metell.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three is Jerson Newton? Where Johnny Newton? Is you

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Speaker 1: seeing some other places?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he prefers Johnny. Now, I couldn't get

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Speaker 2: him in my top thirty two, but I think he's

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Speaker 2: going to go. I just didn't know. I couldn't find

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Speaker 2: the spot for him. I was trying to wedge him

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Speaker 2: in there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to think. I think I might have

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Speaker 1: had him going to the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Actually, ah, that would add up now I think about it.

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Speaker 2: I forget who had the Rams taken, but that would

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Speaker 2: add up.

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Speaker 1: Got a great, big, gaping hole there, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A little bit. Well, I would you like the seven

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Speaker 2: of those follow that guy out some big shoes.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four kool Aid McKinstry, got it.

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Speaker 2: I snuck him in the first round. I didn't the

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Speaker 2: first time around.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five Jackson Powers Johnson, Yeah. Twenty six Graham Barton, Wow,

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Speaker 1: right next to each other, right next to each other.

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Speaker 2: Twenty You consider Barton if you traded all the way

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Speaker 2: down to twenty six eish or so. Yeah. Yeah, Barton

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Speaker 2: versus Fraser would be an interesting conversation. Yeah, for the

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Speaker 2: Steelers because I don't care about the position flexibility.

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Speaker 1: So I think Fraser's a better fit.

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean too. I bet they'd love Fraser. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's such a Steeler prospect.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven Edger and Cooper.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see him go before the second round,

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Speaker 2: which I think he will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Twenty eight Nate Wiggins.

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Speaker 2: Okay, looks like he's bulking up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was little heavier, little heavier at his pro date.

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Speaker 2: The oldest trick in the book though, Oh yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: Like ten pounds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 2: I snuck him in the first round. I didn't. I

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Speaker 2: don't think the first time.

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Speaker 1: Around I couldn't get him in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very end it was one of the

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Speaker 2: last teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty Chop Robinson.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he goes in the top nineteen. I did.

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Speaker 2: I had a hunch after the combine, but those guys

607
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Speaker 2: are too good.

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Speaker 1: Thirty one Tyler Geiton.

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Speaker 2: It's fine. Doesn't seem to have a lot of steam

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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thirty two is keyon Coleman.

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Speaker 2: Depends what you're after. Like, I bet the Steelers are

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Speaker 2: pretty high on him. Yeah, I mean he's not the

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Speaker 2: best separator, he's not, but he's it's.

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Speaker 1: Kind of DeAndre Hopkins like, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: A good call. Physical when he's covered, he's open, but

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Speaker 2: he's covered a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just a physical specimen. Uh. Thirty three

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Speaker 1: Jj McCarthy, and he's going to go higher than this,

620
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Speaker 1: much higher. I had him in my top ten.

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Speaker 2: I did too. I think he could go top five. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thirty four Jordan Morgan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think he's probably a guard, but maybe not type. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five is lad Mconkey.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I have no problem them being that high.

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Speaker 1: Thirty six Kingsley Sue Mataia.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how the Steelers could get him without

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Speaker 2: trading up, trade down moves, Yeah, you know, but I'd

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Speaker 2: love this even black and gold.

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Speaker 1: Thirty seven Kamari Lassiter.

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Speaker 2: Here's a weird question. I think my answers no. But

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Speaker 2: would you trade your first and second pick for Siamattaya

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Speaker 2: and Fraser?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I think I want to be a trade down when

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Speaker 2: you trade up.

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Speaker 1: I think I would.

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Speaker 2: I'm leaning towards no, but part of me thinks Frazer

640
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Speaker 2: could get there on his own.

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Speaker 1: If I do that, I might end up also with

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Speaker 1: an extra third round pick.

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Speaker 2: Well I'm not saying you get that though, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm offering you one your two first picks for those

645
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Speaker 2: two today. Well no, no, okay, okay, So I'm saying

646
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Speaker 2: you have to trade down a fair mount in round

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Speaker 2: one and probably trade up a fair mountain round two.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd have to trade up as much

649
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: because if I trade down in round one, I'm getting

650
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Speaker 1: multiple something, right. I don't know that them have to

651
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: give up multiple something to move up in round two.

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Speaker 2: Agree, That's why I'm saying I would not do it.

653
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: Because I'd probably get something extra, So I'd probably have

654
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Speaker 1: an extra pick third or fourth round or somewhere in

655
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Speaker 1: the mix.

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00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: The trade down would probably be bigger than the trade up, Yes,

657
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: bigger gap, right, certainly more value. Yeah, yeah, so I

658
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Speaker 2: would not take it today.

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Speaker 1: Kamari Lassider at thirty seven. Xavier Worthy at thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: I think that's where he belongs. Yeah, he's more than

661
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: just a speedster, but he's still one hundred and sixty.

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00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: He's still really little.

663
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Thirty nine a disa Isaac Wow.

664
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Speaker 2: Probably the first time IVE seeing him in the top fifty.

665
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: Forty is Enis Rakestraw.

666
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: I feel like I should know more about him than

667
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: he's tough. He's tough, he plays hard. I bet they

668
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: like him.

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00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: Forty one Michael Pennix, I get it over bow Nix.

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00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: Bow next will not mention.

671
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: I think I preferred Nicks, but really the pass what

672
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: you're looking for?

673
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Forty two Xavier leg leg it a.

674
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 2: Little bit straight, linish and stiff, but fast and strong

675
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 2: and good.

676
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: Forty three is bon Nicks.

677
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: I closed depends.

678
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I had bonext go one in my first round.

679
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: I did two.

680
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: In fact, I have him in my top fifteen.

681
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: I did too. We probably obvious spot. Yeah, I don't

682
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: think we have to be secretive about it. I think

683
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: Sean Payton would level.

684
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: I think he's perfect for Denver, yeah.

685
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: I think. And what other options they have, I think

686
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: be there and I think he would love him. Maybe

687
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: they can move down to nineteen or do something like

688
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: that and still get them. But you don't trade down

689
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: if you like a quarterback.

690
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: Right yeah. Forty four Zach Frazier.

691
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: I'd probably even have him higher in the list.

692
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: Forty five is Junior Colson.

693
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: Cool. You'd love to see him fall in the top fifty.

694
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: Forty six is Ricky Pearsall.

695
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: I'd consider him in the second round.

696
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. Uh. Forty seven Troy Franklin.

697
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: He's growing on me too. I know he's skinny, but boy,

698
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: he's explosive and is more than just a one trick bony. Yeah.

699
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: Forty eight is to and Andre Sweat.

700
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: I think Franklin actually was my six you know, we

701
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: do our top five. I think he was my I

702
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: just missed. I don't know about Sweat anymore. I mean,

703
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: and now the Steelers signed Adams. I don't think they're

704
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: in the market.

705
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they're looking for those. Yeah, forty nine

706
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: is Braden Fisk. I don't think he fits.

707
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: I don't yeah, right, uh. And then fifty many d

708
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: linemen that fit what they're after for the draft.

709
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: No, it's it's a very small group, right, it's Rooke

710
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: and well they're not small, but they're not small, but.

711
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: There's not made to pick from.

712
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty Mike Sainstrill, he fits.

713
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: He Yeah, I don't know if i'd use the second

714
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: pick on him, though.

715
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: That's rich for a slot, just rich.

716
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: For a slot. Yeah, maybe he's a trade up. I mean,

717
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: people don't trade up for slots. But if he's sitting

718
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: there at middle third round, use one of your third

719
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: rounders and move up five spots of graft. I don't know.

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00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: No running backs in that.

721
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: Group, no understood.

722
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: We saw the wise how one tight end. Jatavian Sanders

723
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: is kind of falling off a little bit, even.

724
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: Rumwell, no evone's talking about him being a five star.

725
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: You know, long speed, explosive dude, and he didn't show that.

726
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: He didn't do that some of the other positions and

727
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: no guards. Uh well he can considers Fatanu the guard.

728
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: I think he can play tackle. But after him, you're

729
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: looking at Christian.

730
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: Hayes Fatan for the Steelers. You put him in a tackle.

731
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 2: But maybe James Daniels doesn't come back next year. An

732
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: you drafted tackle next year, you know you still you

733
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: have him for more than one year.

734
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: You still got your your offensive line younger.

735
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

736
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Speaker 1: In the long term, he might be a great guard,

737
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: might be yeah. Yeah, uh so there you Christian Haynes

738
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: after him, Cooper bb Zach Zinter and Dominic Pooney.

739
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: Zenter also fits that mold too. What if Daniels doesn't

740
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: come back and he just plugged that guy in.

741
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Centers, he has Van Pran and Limmer after Frasier.

742
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: Van Pram does not interest me.

743
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: No, he's too I think he's a little slower. Yeah,

744
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, you're still looking at his Chris Jenkins as

745
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: his five.

746
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: I think he fits, but I would rarely end up

747
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: with him. Yeah, I prefer Rooke, But those are two

748
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: of the guys that fit on Day two.

749
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: For me, linebacker after Cooper and Colson is Peyton Wilson,

750
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: Cedric Gray and Jeremiah Trotter.

751
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: I haven't done my lineback, might do him tonight. I

752
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: probably have that same order. And how I think about it,

753
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 2: I prefer Gray to Trotter.

754
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Pursuito will not. He likes Wilson, he has age.

755
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: I get a love affair with Peyton Wilson.

756
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: But love to love to have him going in the

757
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: top fifty.

758
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: That cornerback is Arnold Mitchell, McKinstry, Wiggins, Lassiter is Histen.

759
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: Might have degene over lasted for sure, not higher.

760
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't have degene.

761
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: He didn't call him safety today.

762
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: We had a team picking him at like twenty two.

763
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: No he didn't.

764
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: He's not calling him.

765
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: No, he does have the safety is number one safety.

766
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: That's cheating. That is cheating because he's definitely a number

767
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: one safety.

768
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was Degene. Neuban, Kinchin's Bullard and Bullock.

769
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: Kind of glad the Steelers aren't in that market. I mean,

770
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to have to have one of those

771
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: guys at the price you're gonna have to pay. It's

772
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: not terrible, it's just i'd rather have Elliott.

773
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, have that need yeah yeah, proven the factor

774
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: that they're also not in the punter.

775
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that's nicely too. Yeah, a couple of those things

776
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: are nice to scratch off the list.

777
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: Just don't you don't have to send Danny Smith out

778
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: to Iowa to check out the punner. He's not heading

779
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: down to Texas Tech to see, you know, this guy or.

780
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: That gu rounder and an undrafted free agent. You got

781
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: to figure out which one you like and ne the

782
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: ones the answered maybe Yeah, you know they're both holding

783
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: every other snap and that's a nice little thing to

784
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: be firmed up. Yeah.

785
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: So that was Jordan Reid's look at the top fifty.

786
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: It's changed a little bit.

787
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: From starting to get back the draft season here. Yeah,

788
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: we're one week into free agency and there's news and

789
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: there's some trades and there'll be some stuff.

790
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: But it be some extra other guys who were cut

791
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: loose and yeah, things of that nature.

792
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: But you're gonna start hearing a lot of draft stuff

793
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: coming out.

794
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is all right,

795
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, I'm dale Lolly, you're listening. To the drive

796
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish

797
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: up the show right after this. Welcome back. I am

798
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson. And while we've

799
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: been away and break, there a couple of signings in

800
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah yeah, Alexander Madison is going to be

801
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: signing with the Raiders and Chase Young signs a one

802
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: year deal to join the new New Orleans Saints.

803
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: Do you think Madison or Zamir White is the starter?

804
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: They have some other needs. They may not even bother

805
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: draft on one they're about to say, and that could

806
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: be a fifty to fifty year. It'll be a fifty.

807
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: It probably leaned towards White to starting towards White.

808
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought he was pretty impressive in exact fresher

809
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: younger legs. Yeah. Yeah, Chase Young is such a Saints

810
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: type signing at this point, big name power player that

811
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: is probably more expensive than he should be. Such a

812
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: weird organization, they kind of make these signing slash mistakes

813
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: year after year that Reynolds and living for today and

814
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: someday they need to change the whole approach. I think, yeah,

815
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: you would think so. So you brought up an interesting questionnaire. Matt, So,

816
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: I've you said Madison or Zamir White. I think I've

817
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: been asked that. Oh, I don't know at least a

818
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: dozen times this weekend. Who's the starter for the Steelers

819
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: a quarterback next year? Is it Russell Wilson or is

820
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: it justin Fields? It's Russell Wilson for it's Wilson. Yeah,

821
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're happy to get your hands

822
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: on both, work on both, you know, see what they

823
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: can develop. Could could Field conceivably beat him out between

824
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: now and opening Day? That seems like a long shot

825
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: to me. But I think he's going to see the

826
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: field and he's gonna get a ton of preseason action

827
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: and get a lot of reps. And I think it's

828
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: a good situation.

829
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I do think that Wilson is clearly yeah

830
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 1: number one heading into Yeah.

831
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: And I think they've made that pretty clear. I mean,

832
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: I think Fields, those that we know it.

833
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: The league kind of made that pretty clear with the

834
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: compensation conversation. Like if you if you thought Fields was

835
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: a starter, you don't get him for a six round

836
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: draft pick exactly exactly. It doesn't happened.

837
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: And if you thought I as a starter, you'd be

838
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: jumping on the in the fifth year option. And I mean,

839
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: like Sam Donald got ten million for one year. I

840
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: kind of have some interest in Sam Donald. But wouldn't

841
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: you rather have Fields for a six than Donald for

842
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: ten million of straight cap space? You know, I mean

843
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: considering their costs and a and not not that Donald's old,

844
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: but getting your hands on and working with them, maybe

845
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 2: extend them. I don't know. I think Wilson's or Fields

846
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: is a really intriguing guy to have here.

847
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't know. I mean, I didn't

848
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: think there was any question to that, but apparently some

849
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: people do.

850
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: Like I know, I know, I know, I know the

851
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: league knows way more than I do, but I still

852
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: think that's too cheap for Fields. And I know there

853
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: were some reports that the Chiefs turned down a lesser

854
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: offer or a better offer from other teams to do

855
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: Fields right. That might be some truth, But nobody offered

856
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: him a second or third No, I mean, that's GM malpractice,

857
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, so the league has spoken, but

858
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: I know he has warts and I would not have

859
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: given up a second for him. I mean, I get that,

860
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: but I'll kind of die on the hill. Of the

861
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: dude's two hundred and twenty pounds that runs a four

862
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: to four and is a big time playmaker that if

863
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: you're patient with them, something good might come out of

864
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: it at a minimal cost. Yeah, I mean all the

865
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: dice on that.

866
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: I think the difference is here much the same way

867
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: it is for Kenny Pickett going to Philadelphia, but for

868
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: Fields coming to Pittsburgh. He didn't have to be the guy.

869
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Speaker 2: Now, that's the beauty of all those guys. You can

870
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: take a step back, Mac Jones. I mean, I don't

871
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: have much faith in ridd but I mean I think

872
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: it's a good career move for all five of those

873
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: You know that the buyers won in those deals, I

874
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: mean including the Eagles trade. Yeah, I mean, I think

875
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: the Eagles got the better of that trade. I think

876
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: the stealers got the better of the Field trade. I

877
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: think the Seahawks got the better of the how trade.

878
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: You know, those guys are young, not expensive. Take a

879
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: step back, I mean, and be long term backups at

880
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: a minimum, you know.

881
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, just get a career reset and something somewhere different.

882
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: Somewhere different. Yeah, I mean Field has gone through a

883
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 2: lot there, he is his faults. I'm not saying he doesn't,

884
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: but the myriad of systems he's had to go through

885
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: and coaching staves and little around him up until this year,

886
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: it's hard to progress. And the more I think about quarterbacks,

887
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: I think the most important things are supporting cash slash

888
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 2: coaching surroundings. Yeah, and then, and this isn't a knock

889
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: on picket, but I think a mistake was made or

890
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: a lesson was learned that if I'm drafting a quarterback

891
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: from now on, he's going to be a super high

892
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 2: upside guy. And patience, you know, like draft the field.

893
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean Josh Allen was a nightmare coming out of

894
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: Wyoming or even for his first couple of years. Swing

895
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: for the fences like crazy on quarterbacks and be patient

896
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: and put him in a good situation, and if it hits,

897
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: you're really happy. If it doesn't, you're going back to

898
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: the drawing board. Now, I'm not saying Wilson or Fields

899
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 2: will hit, but they have higher upsides than the guy

900
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 2: that left. The guys that left.

901
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, I mean, I you know,

902
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: in that twenty twenty one draft, I went back and

903
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: forth between Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields is my number one, Yeah,

904
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: because I liked a lot of what I saw of

905
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: Justin Fields in college, and it wasn't necessarily a knock

906
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: on Trevor, which I didn't think. Trevor Lawrence was the

907
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: generational talent that a lot of people were saying every year,

908
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: we want to we want to anoint somebody. Oh he's

909
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: the best, he's the you know this this doing with

910
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams this year exactly. Oh he's he's a generational talent,

911
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: is he?

912
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: I mean people even talk about Peyton Manning, like half

913
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: the league liked uh Leaf better than Manning. I mean,

914
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: generational talents don't even exist. Like luck seems like he

915
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: was one and he was a no brainer first overall pick.

916
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: But remember Harbaugh was his UH head coach too, and

917
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: they ran the ball like crazy, like McCarthy, you know,

918
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: like that the Christian McCaffrey in one games on the

919
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 2: ground and had a good lineman and you know, big

920
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: smart lineman that lasted five years at Stanford. I mean,

921
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: like it's not Sidney Crosby or Mario Lemeux or Lebron

922
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: James where anyone can see him and they're just generation

923
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: I just don't know.

924
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: That there's such a thing as they can't miss prospect

925
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL, especially quarterback, especially at that position.

926
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: Quarterback. Yeah, Elway maybe, but boy he had a tough

927
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 2: time the first five years and he wouldn't even play

928
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: for the Colts. It's I mean, I'm going back in history.

929
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: The position now is so different at the collegiate level

930
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: than what it was back then. I mean, back when

931
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: Elway came up, everybody ran Pro style offenses where they

932
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: ran a wishbone or something like that. Right, so you

933
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: were either a pro style offense or you in that

934
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: run heavy offense. Now with the spread, everybody's running some

935
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: elements of the spread in their offense absolutely, and it's

936
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: one read and get the ball out. I'm reading pre snap.

937
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: Who's okay that guy that say we're gonna throw it there?

938
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: And that doesn't translate to the NFL.

939
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to even thinking since I've paid ten in

940
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: the draft, let alone, not even like when I'm be

941
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: getting paid to do it. I mean I was ten

942
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: when el got drafted. Like Carson, Palmer was a no

943
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: brainer first overall pick, and times were different than he

944
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: was a park pocket passer, but he didn't start his

945
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: rookie year. I mean Trent Dilfer played ahead of him.

946
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: Wasn't Delfer? Yeah, I think it was delf It was

947
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: a quarterback like that. That was that. Palmer just sat.

948
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: I mean, Elway had a really rocky start. Akman had

949
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: a really rocky star. Peyton Manning. I'm with you, the

950
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: generational catalent at quarterback. It's not Lebron.

951
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as just just draft this guy,

952
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: plug him in and just play him and h he's

953
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: going to be a superstar. What happened with CJ. Stroud

954
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: last year? It was great, was great, but it happens

955
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: once every decade.

956
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people liked Young better. Yeah, I mean certainly

957
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: Carolina did. But no one likes to say this, but

958
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: half the draft knicks out there like Young better too.

959
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 2: I mean half the draft knicks like Leaf better than Manning. Yeah.

960
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: That's in insane, but it's not.

961
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: You know, one of the knocks on Stroud was, well,

962
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: he's an Ohio state quarterback.

963
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the track record is terrible. Yeah, but

964
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you should hold that against him. It

965
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: was that he didn't do well in that goofy New

966
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: Test remember the test score thing and didn't run an

967
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: improv enough. Well, he did against Georgia when he needed to, right,

968
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I mean, it's a Drafting quarterbacks

969
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: is hard, and back to my point, I almost care

970
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: how where they land, how they land, and how patient

971
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: that organization is going to be with them as opposed

972
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: to what they are.

973
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think they think success patience is

974
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: the key, and I just think that the way that

975
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: NFL contracts are now structured, I don't like you can

976
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: afford to be patient. I know, look at the Jordan

977
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: Love situation. They were patient with him, and by the

978
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: time they had to pick up his fifty year option,

979
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: they didn't know what they had.

980
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: They know what they had and they had the hedge.

981
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: And you know they're patient with Alan, but that could

982
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 2: easily went off the rails. Mahomes didn't play. He played

983
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: one game his rookie year. It was a meaningless week

984
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: seventeen game, you know. I mean that stuff works out well,

985
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: but it's hard to pull off. Yeah, I mean really.

986
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: Hard, because you have to your coaching staff can get fired.

987
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: They can't.

988
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: They can't afford patience because if they don't win and

989
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much everywhere across the league except for

990
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: a couple of situations you're getting fired.

991
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again Fields has plenty awards. He holds the

992
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: ball too long. I mean, he doesn't see the field

993
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: as well as you'd like, et cetera. But if he'd

994
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: have been drafted by the Chiefs the year Mahomes was

995
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: and sat behind Alex Smith and was nurtured differently, I'm

996
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: just saying his career would have went differently.

997
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that matters.

998
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: It matters, It matters. He might have the exact same problems.

999
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: Who knows, but he was asked to do a lot

1000
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: of difficult stuff for not getting much help. It may

1001
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: never work out. I don't know. I don't think the risk.

1002
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worth the shot, you know. And again it

1003
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: costs you nothing.

1004
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of it.

1005
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: That's to be Again. I was never on board with

1006
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: giving up those early picks to get him, But for

1007
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: what they paid for him, yeah, why not?

1008
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: I mean they own nothing in the quarterback The quarterback

1009
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: room costs zero. It might be the cheapest on the league,

1010
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: and it's going to be in contention if it's not.

1011
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: It's right there.

1012
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: It's real close right, I mean maybe it's two rookies

1013
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: or whatever, but and they have track records and pedigree

1014
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: and talent. Get a shot.

1015
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, Matt, that's going to do it for our

1016
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin

1017
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: Miller here on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale, Lolly.

1018
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again on Wednesday. You've been listening

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