WEBVTT - Fantasy Things Recap

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbo. Come for me. I'm a man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm for I've heard so many players say, well I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be happy. You want to be happy for

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<v Speaker 1>day Ato State?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that whoo whoom? And then and Tye, welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Solid Verbal boys and girls. My name is

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<v Speaker 2>ty Hildenbrandt. Joining me is always over there in beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>New York City. My man Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm great, Ty, I just got the call that I

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<v Speaker 1>will be joining the Oakland. A's okay, a piercing have

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<v Speaker 1>a roster spot for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Can you play center field?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of hamstring stretching to do. Tie,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of stretching. I am good. I

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<v Speaker 1>have uh, just a lot of excitement. We haven't spoke.

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<v Speaker 2>We did it.

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<v Speaker 1>We recorded what right after the National Championship game eight

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<v Speaker 1>am after the National Championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Tuesday morning, so it's been a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer than usual. This show is actually going to drop

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday, January sixteenth. If you're listening to us, now,

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<v Speaker 2>hello from the past, because yeah, Dan old habits die hard.

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<v Speaker 2>We decided we're going to wake up early. We are

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<v Speaker 2>recording this bright and early, nine am Sunday morning, it

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<v Speaker 2>advance of the Wednesday posting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just too long between shows. It's too long between

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<v Speaker 1>shows for me now. And this is from Tuesday morning

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<v Speaker 1>to Sunday morning, because we're used to going Sunday morning

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday late afternoon, and to go from sun or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday morning, bright and early all the way until the

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<v Speaker 1>following Wednesday. With everything news wise, with transfers, with guys returning,

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<v Speaker 1>with NFL declarations, with coaching shuffling all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>and just general news, and the fact that we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to recap bad predictions and our fantasy things drafts. It

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<v Speaker 1>was too long time. It was just there's that to

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<v Speaker 1>make up that much ground, I think as a so,

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<v Speaker 1>even though we're putting this out later on, if something

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<v Speaker 1>were to happen big between now and Wednesday, as we are,

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<v Speaker 1>we're operating again in the interstellar fifth dimension, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, of course, sure behind the bookcase.

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<v Speaker 1>If Nick Saban retires, if Urban Meyer decides he wants

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<v Speaker 1>the Toledo job, whatever it is, we have the flexibility

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<v Speaker 1>to hit record on Thursday or Friday or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is how we're operating as of now.

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<v Speaker 2>And as of now, Dan, everyone is undefeated. I love

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<v Speaker 2>that joke. It's not even so much a joke as

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<v Speaker 2>it is a cold hard fact. We are squarely in

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<v Speaker 2>the off season. We've got a bunch of news to

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<v Speaker 2>get through. We are also going to review our fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>things as well as some of our favorite and least

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<v Speaker 2>favorite predictions from the twenty eighteen season. So we've got

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<v Speaker 2>a fair amount to cover here, even though there isn't

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<v Speaker 2>any football taking place. But on that note, Dan, are

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoying the first week of the college football postseason?

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<v Speaker 1>It's been an active one. Yeah, I listen. I I

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<v Speaker 1>am enjoying it. We have coaches moving all around. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got that second or maybe I guess third wave of

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<v Speaker 1>coaching hires because of you have the mid season, you

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<v Speaker 1>have your general December carousel, and then there's the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>possibilities and shufflings and late firings because things didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>work out, and there's there's been an active few days

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<v Speaker 1>behind us. So I am enjoying it very much.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have to give you full disclosure here place.

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<v Speaker 2>I was out late last night, later than oh look

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<v Speaker 2>at you a youth. You know, I was at a

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<v Speaker 2>game night until three am?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it that late?

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<v Speaker 2>Three am?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>This is what people in their thirties do when they're married.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at a game night until very late.

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<v Speaker 1>There's at least ten percent of people that heard you

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<v Speaker 1>were at a game night until three am and said

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves, I'll bet time cater swingers. I'll bet that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that his that's his euphemism, that's his cover.

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<v Speaker 2>YadA, YadA, YadA. Today I've got my husky Jennifer Lawrence

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<v Speaker 2>voice on even ait that Okay, you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>into the news first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's play catch up and figure out what we

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<v Speaker 1>care about, what we have, opinions about, what there might

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<v Speaker 1>be repercussions, repercussions regarding we have. Okay, so you want

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<v Speaker 1>to start with hires.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start with Cliff Kingsbury to the Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my favorite story of the young off season.

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<v Speaker 2>So as you know, Cliff Kingsbury let go at Texas Tech,

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<v Speaker 2>a hard decision for them. He was a native son

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't working out. As soon as Cliff Kingsbury hits the

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<v Speaker 2>open market, Dan there seemed to be a pretty big

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<v Speaker 2>market for his service. A lot of folks were interested

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<v Speaker 2>in talking to him. He's seen by many as a

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<v Speaker 2>very bright offensive mind, if not a potential head coaching candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>So he eventually ends up at USC as offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of USC people who were very excited

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<v Speaker 2>about this. They saw it as a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>coup for Clay Hilton. You know the story, right. But

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<v Speaker 2>then then Black Monday hit in the NFL, and suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>there were a variety of NFL openings that might have

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<v Speaker 2>been of interest to one Clifford Kingsbury, and news reports

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<v Speaker 2>surfaced that there were several teams, among them the Jets,

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<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals that wanted to interview Cliff Kingsbury. They requested

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<v Speaker 2>permission but were denied right well, and behold, here we

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<v Speaker 2>are only a few days later, Cliff Kingsbury is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be your actual new head football coach for the

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, Yeah, so procedurally, I don't know if he resigned.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some stories where just Lynn Swan and the

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<v Speaker 1>athletic department then gave permission, you know, the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>if you love something, set it free. Element of his

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<v Speaker 1>full story. I don't know if that fully ties in,

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<v Speaker 1>but it makes sense in my mind, I cannot believe it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can believe the taking a job and then

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<v Speaker 1>immediately taking a better job thing. I get that. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw that with on a certainly smaller scale, with what

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<v Speaker 1>Chip lindsay taking the Kansas offensive coordinator job and then

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<v Speaker 1>gets the Troy head coach Nanny Diaz Many Daz. For sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not great, it's not pretty, it's not a great look.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the scheme of the machinations of hiring, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you got to do with best for you, you got

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<v Speaker 1>you have to, you know whatever, whether it's money, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's prestige, whatever. But Cliff Kingsbury going from failed mid level,

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<v Speaker 1>mid tier Big twelve head coach, that's right, checks out

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<v Speaker 1>big time offensive coordinator job and what we've seen of

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<v Speaker 1>him as an offensive mine both at Texas A and

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<v Speaker 1>M and Texas Tech. Great, Yes, that makes full sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd got a young quarterback of the future, all these

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting receivers at USC, a winnable division in the

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<v Speaker 1>PAC twelve South. Yeah, that's I mean, he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>has that image of you know, enjoying the spotlight to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever extent, like this is what a what a coup

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<v Speaker 1>for USC. And then saying, not just will he become

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<v Speaker 1>a high profile offensive coordinator in a big city at

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<v Speaker 1>a big school, he's going to then leap three rungs

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<v Speaker 1>without coaching a game, without developing any talent at USC,

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<v Speaker 1>without sort of washing through laundering his sort of image

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<v Speaker 1>as a winning football coach. Is now an NFL head

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<v Speaker 1>coach for the Arizona Cardinals, all because he helped to

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<v Speaker 1>develop Patrick Mahomes but didn't win with Patrick Mahomes a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago. Is that what we're basing this on. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's something. And I don't like to. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to tie a lot of emotions to something like

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<v Speaker 1>this because so much happens behind the scenes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do and it's tough to but I do feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for USC fans, who, you know, they were all so

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<v Speaker 1>angry about the Clay Hilton era and the way it

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<v Speaker 1>had come to pass this past year, especially later on

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<v Speaker 1>in the season, and they're like, Okay, here is like

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<v Speaker 1>that bright mind coming in to help revitalize things in LA.

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<v Speaker 2>It was memorable, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all of the memories we cherish of the Cliff

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<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury era at USC, I don't know where to start.

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<v Speaker 1>Tile boy, whether it was like the two receivers that

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<v Speaker 1>committed to USC because they thought they'd be coached by

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury or JT. Daniels really getting a new outlook

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<v Speaker 1>on offense. Yeah, the fan base thinking, man, we are

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<v Speaker 1>what are we going to do with this crazy aer

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<v Speaker 1>rid Huh. Yeah, So Cliff's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Cliff is gone. He is new head football coach at Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>To that point, there was another college coach who was

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<v Speaker 2>in the mix, reportedly in the mix for a coaching

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<v Speaker 2>duty with the New York Jets. Matt Ruhle know him

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<v Speaker 2>as the Baylor coach won his bowl game, finished what

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<v Speaker 2>seven and six this year, did a great job with

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<v Speaker 2>the Baylor Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one and eleven to seven and six, I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was in talks to be the Jets head

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<v Speaker 2>football coach. Sounds like they wanted him, but he says

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't accept it because they wouldn't let him hire

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<v Speaker 2>his own offensive coordinator. There's always a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>red flag if you're taking a new job and you

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<v Speaker 2>want to put yourself in the best position to succeed.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, quote, I'm never going to be in an

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<v Speaker 2>arranged marriage I'm never going to subcontract jobs to the

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<v Speaker 2>offense and defense, and so they always want to hire

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<v Speaker 2>people that believe what I believe right and that are

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<v Speaker 2>going to do things our way, which makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not quite sure I understand what the Jets are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Matt Ruhle, I'm not sure if he's necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>like the guy that you want. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Gazes is the guy that you want either. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets haven't won a playoff game in about fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 2>so whatever their process is for finding and identifying and

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<v Speaker 2>hiring new head coaching talent, their process needs a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of revision as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, that's same sort of stupid that if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a huge risk and put yourself out

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<v Speaker 1>there for an NFL job, that you would want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it on your terms. Because certainly he has it

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<v Speaker 1>good with his contract and his ability to hire at Baylor,

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<v Speaker 1>and I imagine he will be coveted with by NFL

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<v Speaker 1>teams and college teams should he continue to have success

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<v Speaker 1>in Waco. So I think that seems pretty pragmatic on

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<v Speaker 1>his end.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we got a bunch of hiring news that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to have to rifle through. Neil Brown is

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<v Speaker 2>the new coach at West Virginia. Your boy, Neil Brown

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<v Speaker 2>from Troy. I'm not sure if we talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>in the midst, but yeah, Neil Brown going to West

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia seems like a good move. We've got Steve Sarkisian

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<v Speaker 2>going back for a second tour of duty to Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Gibson going to NC State, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe, Yeah, that is the report at our power, Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Veldman reporting that, so he of a good amount of

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<v Speaker 1>success given where that defense was when he fully took

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<v Speaker 1>over at West Virginia with Dana Holgerson to where it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of evolved to developing a lot of talent, especially

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<v Speaker 1>playing the past very well those West Virginia defenses. So

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<v Speaker 1>NC State, you know, with some changes, hiring Tony Gibson

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a pretty decent move. And to your point

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<v Speaker 1>about Alabama and Sarkisian, a bit of an exodus on

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<v Speaker 1>the Alabama staff, which is the sort of it has

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<v Speaker 1>almost reached the point where that's a feature not a bug,

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<v Speaker 1>where Nick Saban constantly needs the turnover and the fresh mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>and he always has the analyst to that that pool

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<v Speaker 1>to hire from, you know. Butch Jones is another name

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<v Speaker 1>that you know as a rumored to you know, be

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix for jobs outside of Alabama and within

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama as an analyst. Who was was it Peter Tiel,

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<v Speaker 1>the investor who believed in, like, you know, recycling the

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<v Speaker 1>blood of virgins or something like.

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<v Speaker 2>That to a very weird place.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe there's something a little more on the level

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<v Speaker 1>about Nick Saban And it's also listened he probably churns

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<v Speaker 1>through these guys because it's a grind working for Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping that consistently high level program. Is because Danny Enos,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the quarterback coach and associate head coach this

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<v Speaker 1>past year, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes to Miami, right Yeah, with Manny Diaz to

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<v Speaker 1>run that offense. Brent Key, who did a good job

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<v Speaker 1>at the offensive line. He goes to Georgia Tech. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he's a Georgia Tech alum. So he joins Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Collins there. Josh Gaddis, who I think was pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>regarded both at Penn State as a receivers coach for

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Morehead and then he was at Alabama as a

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<v Speaker 1>co offensive coordinator this past year. He moves on to Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>where the assumption is he will help to open up

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps modernize the Michigan offense. So more changes there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he was pretty well regarded. You saw

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<v Speaker 1>how the Alabama receivers performed this year, so I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>there was some part of that being his tutelage. So Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on offense, looks to be new in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff. Defensively, I think some of that's still

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<v Speaker 1>in place. I know, I believe tash Lupoi may have

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<v Speaker 1>had some of his play calling responsibilities adjusted later on

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<v Speaker 1>in the season, So we'll see what happens with that defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But Alabama, with Steve Sarkeesian and reportedly Chip Long perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>also going in a new direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Temple's new head coach is going to be Rod Kerry

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<v Speaker 2>in Northern Illinois, so you'll remember Temple hired Manny Diaz

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<v Speaker 2>after Jeff Collins left to go to Georgia Tech. Rod

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<v Speaker 2>Kerrey coming east now to coach at Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>Exceedingly solid, has done a very good job with Northern

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois and at this point, you know he wins the

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<v Speaker 1>MAC this year, yet again not a ton to prove.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the Temple job, as we've seen, a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice stepping stone. And also the Temple job is

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<v Speaker 1>just good. The Americans a really good conference, so good

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<v Speaker 1>for him, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville has hired Court Dennison as co defensive coordinator. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe you are familiar with mister Denison from his time

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<v Speaker 2>at Oregon, young.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude linebackers coach at Oregon. He will be the co

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator for Scott Saderfields and the Cardinals and comes

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<v Speaker 1>back to Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville as a coach under Bobby Patrino a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, known to be a very good recruiter. So

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<v Speaker 1>another seemingly solid move, by the way, and under the

0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.800
<v Speaker 1>radar move that I love. So Utah lost their offensive

0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.880
<v Speaker 1>coordinator Troy Taylor to I believe Sacramento State. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>he got the head coaching job there. So they had

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<v Speaker 1>an opening and they re hired, not just hired, rehired

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Ludwick as somebody who roots for a Pac twelve team,

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled by it, as somebody who wishes the Pac twelve

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<v Speaker 1>would be more exciting and win more games. Boomed out

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<v Speaker 1>by it.

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<v Speaker 2>There aren't a lot of folks out there who pay

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<v Speaker 2>close attention to college football mm hmm that look at

0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Utah's offense and say, you know, if we're looking to

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<v Speaker 2>reinvigorate things, let's bring in Andy Ludwick.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at your offense and you say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just generating too many big plays and we're just

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<v Speaker 1>too unpredictable. What can we do to really.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's yardage is so showy. Points are ostentatious, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy lud went back.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, coordinator, speaking of guys who bounce around. Jim Cheney, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>our boy. Yeah, he was the offensive coordinator at Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Our joke forever has been that he's the offensive consultant.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got an issue at your team, at your company,

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<v Speaker 2>if you need some offensive help for hire. Yep, bringing

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Cheney. He's going to Tennessee to backfill the position.

0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Georgia has promoted their co offensive coordinator and quarterback coach

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<v Speaker 2>James Coley. Yep, So Jim Cheney to Tennessee should be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they whiffed on a number of candidates. Reportedly, Tennessee

0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:42.360
<v Speaker 1>did throughout the process to come to Knoxville. And Jim

0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Cheney is the ultimate defensive head coaches offensive coordinator. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yes he is. He shows up on time,

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<v Speaker 1>He gets everybody in order h listen Georgia's listen. Georgia's

0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.760
<v Speaker 1>offense was excellent last year, and we will soon see

0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and Jim Cheney's offenses have always been pretty good. We

0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.680
<v Speaker 1>will soon see whether that Georgia offense from twenty eighteen

0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:13.480
<v Speaker 1>was a product of an extremely high talent level or

0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.280
<v Speaker 1>just a very very competent coordinator, because the talent level

0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.920
<v Speaker 1>on offense at Tennessee is not quite where Georgia's is,

0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.240
<v Speaker 1>But in terms of consistency, in terms of dependability, Tennessee

0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.399
<v Speaker 1>will have a B plus offense it looks like.

0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.679
<v Speaker 2>And finally, on the coaching front, we have Dana Holgerson

0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.960
<v Speaker 2>looking for a new defensive coordinator, reportedly targeting Tim de

0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Ruter from.

0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Cal Cal really really savvy.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. Yeah, Cal had a really good defense

0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.480
<v Speaker 2>this year, So we shall see what the future has

0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.520
<v Speaker 2>in store for the Houston defense.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Yeah, he was at I think A and

0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.760
<v Speaker 1>M about seven or eight years Yeah, sure, so it

0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.320
<v Speaker 1>does have experience in that area.

0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.280
<v Speaker 2>So since we do have a lot of other stuff

0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.560
<v Speaker 2>to get through. Yeah, we need to rifle through transfers,

0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:01.920
<v Speaker 2>declarations and if we have a name for guys who

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<v Speaker 2>just announced they're coming back, but them as well. The

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<v Speaker 2>biggest news was on the transfer front, particularly the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to work just a spreadsheet. It's just a spreadshee,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to workshop that sound a little bit. But

0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Justin Fields who's transferring away from Georgia. He's going to

0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State, which has had a bit of a domino

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<v Speaker 2>effect given that Tate Martel, who was the highly regarded

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<v Speaker 2>backup to Dwayne Haskins, he has now announced that he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be going elsewhere. So Tate Martell's services are.

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<v Speaker 1>And ahead of the Rose Bull. By the way, Tate

0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Martell was like, no, of course I'm not leaving, and

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<v Speaker 1>I Am not going to be smirch somebody for confidently

0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.480
<v Speaker 1>declaring that they're returning and then moving on because behind

0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the scenes, who knows what's happening. But yes, Tate Martell

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.679
<v Speaker 1>highly regarded from the West Coast. I think he went

0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to high school in Nevada. He goes to Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't appear like he would be in a good position

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<v Speaker 1>to win the job with Justin Fields and entering the Fray,

0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.680
<v Speaker 1>so he will be moving on. I have not seen

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.480
<v Speaker 1>an association with any specific schools or visitations yet.

0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurt has at least three schools that are reportedly

0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.240
<v Speaker 2>interested in his services Maryland, Miami, and Oklahoma. That will

0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:19.720
<v Speaker 2>be one to watch for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Connections to the first two with Mike Laxley and Danny Andos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oklahoma is mentioned here. That's a note because Austin

0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Kendall is in the transfer portal now as well. He

0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.880
<v Speaker 2>was the backup to Kyler Murray. So it'll be curious

0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.760
<v Speaker 2>to see which direction Lincoln Riley goes, Alis said, Lincoln Kennedy.

0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.160
<v Speaker 1>That's fine. I always curious about that too.

0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.280
<v Speaker 2>It'll be interesting to see it's it was a late.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Dan Listen, Swing or city.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be interesting to see which direction Oklahoma goes

0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.119
<v Speaker 2>for its quarterback next year. All right, who else we

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.640
<v Speaker 2>got Tye story in there? Case Thompson in there.

0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Juan John ammeron speaking of Penn State, he's in the

0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.840
<v Speaker 1>transfer transferport as well. Had a kind of rough year

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.160
<v Speaker 1>right with drops that would be putting it mildly Dan. Yes, yeah,

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that was, and he's somebody who came in. He played

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:09.440
<v Speaker 1>as a freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>And caught that game winning touchdown against Iowa. Yeah, the

0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:14.959
<v Speaker 2>future was very bright for Juan Johnson.

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.679
<v Speaker 1>But physically just exactly what you want out of a

0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.680
<v Speaker 1>deep threat, just big jumper everything, but really did struggle

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>with bringing the ball into his palms this year.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here are your declarations very quickly. For Alabama,

0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.280
<v Speaker 2>we had Quinn Williams, Jonah Williams, erv Smith, Savion Smith,

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Josh Jacobs for Clemson, Cleveland Ferrell for Iowa State, Hakeem

0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Butler for Ohio State, Dwayne Haskins. We also had David

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Montgomery from Iowa State.

0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, we all these names make sense to Yeah,

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 1>jj Arthega White Whiteside, who was I think a senior,

0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.680
<v Speaker 1>like a fourth year senior who could have come back.

0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like a Notre Dame situation where you are technically

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<v Speaker 1>not a red shirt kind of thing.

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have Cody Ford from Oklahoma, their offensive lineman,

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and maybe maybe Kyler Murray. So may funny be Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>We record were it's nine to forty am on Sunday

0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:22.959
<v Speaker 1>the thirteenth. By the time people listen to this, we

0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:26.200
<v Speaker 1>will know it'll be known because the deadline I think

0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 1>is tomorrow as we record this, So we're in the

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.960
<v Speaker 1>fifth dimension and you'll know by the time you listen

0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to this. But as of now, we personally do not

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.920
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what Kyler Murray's future holds. But there was

0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 1>a report that the A's are moving forward with the

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.720
<v Speaker 1>understanding that he is going to be playing football.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, we'll talk about that more momentarily, I promise,

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.720
<v Speaker 2>and returning to school, Troy Die, Christian Fulton, MALIEK. Harrison,

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Zach Moss, Derek Brown, Marlon Davidson.

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Auburn a big winner other than Stidham, and I think

0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Darius Slayton leaving their defense and uh yeah, mostly their defense.

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Real big news with who's returning with.

0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 2>VARs Davis, Jeremiah Dinston, Daniel Thomas yep Okay kJ Hill

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 2>from Ohio State coming back, Brandon Jones from Texas huge.

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Who else do we got here?

0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Any other big? Go the tight end form Maszook, you go, yeah, amazing.

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 1>He and I think Jase Sternberger were probably the clear

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:25.119
<v Speaker 1>best and Rfsmith tight ends in the SEC. Jase Sternberger

0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 1>declares a few weeks ago, Big Oh is coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me like twenty seconds about former Oregon players suing

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<v Speaker 2>Willy Taggert.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's Doug Brenner, former offensive lineman, and Sam Potassi. Potassi,

0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:41.680
<v Speaker 1>who is a current at least as of you know,

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.199
<v Speaker 1>when we're recording offensive linemen, who were two of the

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>three guys who were hospitalized with those workouts under Willie

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Taggart and his strength coach Rell Odorinde. I don't know

0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that was good.

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 2>That was good.

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<v Speaker 1>So those two players have decided to sue Willy Taggart's

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the strength coach in the University of Oregon, for obvious mistreatment.

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 1>And there were some quotes that, you know, Willy Taggert

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.679
<v Speaker 1>told the team, you know, we're going to find the

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>snakes in the grass and cut off their heads, which

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>is not a great indicator of how things were run

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.879
<v Speaker 1>early on by Willy Taggart and his staff at Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're suing them from millions of.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars eleven point five million to be exact, it.

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Was eleven point five and I think Potassi is like

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a meager five million. So we hope everything is dealt

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>with and the people that should be held responsible are

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 1>held responsible. The strength coach I remember, was suspended for

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>about a month and he is now the current strength

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>coach at Florida State under Willy Taggart. So a pretty

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:53.439
<v Speaker 1>ugly situation reaching its the conclusion that seemed like it

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>was an inevitability.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in August, you and I hopped aboard the bird.

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>We sort our way to the Great Midwest, to the

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Windy City as it were. Yeah, and we did a

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 2>live show, our Live Fantasy Things Draft. It was smashing

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 2>good fun at the Vidom Theater, had an exuberant crowd.

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 2>We each picked seven selections for something that we called

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 2>our Fantasy Things Draft. And what we did is instead

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>of drafting players, we draft storylines. We draft narratives that

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>we think are going to be discussed talked about newsworthy

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 2>throughout the course of the season. I have our rosters

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 2>in front of us today. We need to go through

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 2>these and so.

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Last year, via our friends on the soliverbal subreddit, which

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you should join, there was grading throughout

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>the season and not that there wasn't this year because

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>there was Did you grade this or is this from

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the community?

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>This is from the community, Dan, So here's interesting. Okay,

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 2>here is my read on what happened, because all we

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 2>have access to is the scoring through week nine. Okay,

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 2>after week nine, you were up by an eighteen to

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 2>eleven score on me.

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>So week nine would have been late October approaching Halloween.

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Eighteen to eleven through nine weeks of the

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 2>season is basically the margin of victory for Clemson in

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 2>the National Championship. In this game, in this context, it

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 2>is very difficult to come from seven points behind because

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>what that entails is Jimbo Fisher's contract or Herm Edwards

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>NFL mindset, or any of my items hitting seven more

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>times than yours do or than yours did, which would

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 2>have been a monumental comeback given I think, in hindsight,

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the strength of your roster. Yes, my best guess here

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 2>as to what transpired is that people were keeping track

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>of this. They saw that it was a blowout, they

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 2>saw this was a crock potting, and they lost some interest.

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, here's the thing. We don't necessarily do this

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to win. We sort of do this to celebrate speak

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.719
<v Speaker 1>for yourself, brother, I understand. And so like a couple

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>of your draft picks that have been graded out as

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>what zero out of five, this is between zero and five,

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Zero being just never happens, five being this is this

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>is the commonplace thing. So this is the number of

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>weeks that oh, okay, where it's occurred. Each of these

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>items actually occurred or was brought up in.

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>So two of your draft picks I think are the

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>best things ever. They got a big laugh in the

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Vidom theater. And I cannot fault you for taking these

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>things because the other wonderful things I can't argue it.

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I really wish, though, in looking at this, that we

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>had consistent studio hosts unable to control their touch screen,

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and that kills me that we didn't get more of that.

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>walk through each of our items. I am willing to

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 2>concede defeat to you. I think that yours, just in

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>terms of how many points you got, yours were stronger.

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 2>But let's just do a bit of a retrospective here

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>and look back at each of these items. So big,

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>thank you. My first overall pick was Jimbo Fisher's contract.

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did that include Jimbo Fisher Texas things or that

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>was just an aside we had.

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that was just an aside that we had.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:36.479
<v Speaker 2>But Okay, Jimbo Fisher's contract was clearly a talking point early.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>My suspicion is that it will continue to be a

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>talking point for every year that Jimbo Fisher is at

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Texas A and M, although we might hear less about

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 2>it now given the fact that he had a good

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>finish to his season in destroying NC State in the

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>bowl game, and also is building towards something now like

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 2>you can feel the momentum with that A and M program,

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.719
<v Speaker 2>There will probably be less criticism in twenty nineteen of

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the contract compared to what we might have heard in

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he says, forgetting which fan base we're talking about.

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I think the actual misqueue here was the contract will

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>be something that is talked about in May and July

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>previewing the season, But in season the focus is just

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be more on is Kellen Mond developing. Is

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Travon Williams one of the best running backs in the country.

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>How well did Mike Elko do getting this defense to

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>a pretty respectable place. You know, there there are so

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>many talking points in season that unless Texas A and

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>M is a total disaster, that the contract probably won't

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>come up a lot. It would have been funnier, or

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>if there's a NFL interest NFL interest, right, it would

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>have been funnier in hindsight if instead of the contract

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>we honed in on the Texas things him riding a bull.

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>But even that felt like it was over by the

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>time the season starting.

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jimbo Fisher's contract was the number one overall pick

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>felt very strong at the time. Seems like it dwindled

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>off pretty quickly, but nonetheless, the celebration of a monster

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 2>contract in college football your first selection, so our second

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 2>pick was personally my favorite, and the scores, at least

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>the scores through week nine seemed to indicate that as well.

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Five times through Week nine. Strength coach with a screw

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>loose was a prominent talking point. So before the start

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 2>of the year we talked a lot about strength coaches

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and how presumably they had a bit of a screw loose.

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it came up with this item the night

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>before we did the Fantasy Things Draft and I was

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 2>giggling uncontrollably at the mere thought of just saying strength

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>coach with the screw loose. We saw this countless times

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>this year, I think more recently with the north Western

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 2>strength coach who wore the extra medium shirt uh huh,

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and it was like freezing cold, didn't wear the jacket

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>that business.

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 1>So we're talking after week nine though, so you're almost

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>fortunate that this cuts out.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. This was a really popular and.

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>November yeah, so strong pick by me.

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes, welcome home. Scott Frost was your next selection.

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>With a caveat, we needed to see belly button in

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>any old pictures of him playing it in like one

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>of those cutoff jerseys. So certainly, yes, every week that

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Nebraska played there was probably a reference to Scott Frost

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>returning home to Lincoln where he played a couple of

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>seasons worth and grew up in Nebraska. But we did

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>need that specific picture, so in a couple of weeks early

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>on had it.

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I got to give you credit for playing this one

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>straight and being being an honest competitor in not just

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 2>taking the easy points here.

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't picking it like you picked Tom Ernaldi tearjerker.

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's right.

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, this was not super fruitful, but I'm happy

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 1>we got to talk about man navels part of this.

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Next two picks for me were Kyler Murray playing baseball

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 2>and the backups are better than another team starters. Kyler

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Murray playing baseball was a talking point early and then

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 2>very quickly diminished because yeah, his his own play. Yeah,

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 2>because he played at such a high level. I remember

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>back before the start of the season, and we may

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>get to predictions this show. We may have to do

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 2>it the next show because we're running short on time here,

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>but I remember I named Kyler Murray is one of

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:49.240
<v Speaker 2>my nineteen most pivotal people before the twenty eighteen season,

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>and at one point I said that Kyler Murray was

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 2>the most intriguing player, the most exciting player in all

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 2>of college football. And you gave me a hard time about.

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:57.280
<v Speaker 1>That I did.

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.919
<v Speaker 2>In retrospect. That seems to be one of the only

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 2>predictions I got correct. This is true. We didn't end

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 2>up talking about Kyler Murray's baseball because Kyler Murray's football

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 2>was so damn good he won the Heisman Trophy. Now, unfortunately,

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the season's over, but now we're talking more about the

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 2>baseball because of the NFL draft thing. It appears as

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>if he wants to play football, which duh.

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Of course he talked about playing both.

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 2>Of course he wanted to play football. If he didn't

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 2>want to play football, he wouldn't play. He would have played.

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 2>This year. He just went and played baseball. So he played.

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>He did really well. I saw our friends over at

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Pro Football Focus are all in on Kyler Murray as

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>an NFL prospect, even though he's a little bit smaller.

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have plenty of talk about Kyler Murray going

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>to the NFL, I'm sure in the coming days of weeks,

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>but at least for the interim and as it relates

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>to our fantasy things here, this was not a huge

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 2>selection in terms of points, but again as a celebration item,

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 2>this was fun at the start of the year. This

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 2>is a fun little thing that announcers sunk their teeth into.

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was interesting that he played so well that

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't even talk about the most interesting part of

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>his background because he in the present was so excellent

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>for Oklahoma, obviously eventually winning the Heisman Trophy, and I

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>think we had a caveat with this that he had

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>to be a picture of him.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>In a bay the baseball for me need the baby.

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we'd set Oklahoma and Oakland, whatever

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it was, so there was a caveat to this specific pick,

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and especially after again we were recording this Sunday morning

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in the shadow of a recent Big twelve Air raid

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>ish quarterback with a baseball background succeeding wildly and is

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>perhaps the MVP of the NFL season. It looks like

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray as a football player.

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, well, good luck to him. My other

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 2>pick here backups better than another team starters. That's an

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 2>old classic here on the show, And I was thinking

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 2>about this a little bit last night when I put

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 2>this together. But now, given all the talk of this

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 2>mysterious transfer portal, it feels like we're headed to a

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.720
<v Speaker 2>place where the twenty nineteen Fantasy Things Draft in parts

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>unknown is going to include some combination of backups being

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:21.320
<v Speaker 2>better than the team starters. With this new mysterious transfer

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 2>portal that we hear an awful lot about, I feel

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 2>like that could be a really good selection.

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>I will say this for this specific selection, which is

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>a three pointer here through week nine. I think if

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>we're grading this through the National Championship, when there was

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 1>so much focus on both Alabama and Clemson's depth, that

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>this is probably more of like a six or seven pointer.

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>This is why that had more upside potential.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I think it was I think his name

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>is Pinkney who uh sniffed out the terrible, terrible fake

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>field goal from Alabama. It was a Clemson backup defensive lineman.

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Obviously we had Albert Huggins stepping in for Dexter Lawrence.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of that talk of yes, isn't

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 1>it great to have this much depth? If he weren't

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 1>on Clemson, if he weren't playing for Alabama, he would

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>be starting at one hundred and fifty other schools, and

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks who are transferring, the backup quarterbacks, I think

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts would be starting for many schools, but as

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a backup at Alabama. So yes, I think this one

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>is one hundred percent a grower over a shower.

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 2>All right on your side. So you had two consecutive

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>selections kickers and punters taunting followed by Will Muschamp has

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 2>seen the light now Here's what I don't understand about this.

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I trust whoever compiled this sheet, and I certainly trust

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>the solid verbal Reddit community. Of course, I had no

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.879
<v Speaker 2>idea that kickers and punters were taunting this much through

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 2>week nine. This is a four pointer. Relative to the

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>other thirteen selections on this list, this would be the

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.479
<v Speaker 2>second best, right behind strength Coach has a screw loose.

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>It did happen. There were moments early on during the

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>season where and I think part of it is because

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>college kickers and punters are sometimes so surprised that they're

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>succeeding and making big kicks and succeeding in big moments

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that they can't help but to get overly excited. So yes, we.

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Did have this or here is my beef with this though, Okay,

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 2>you taunt an opponent. Taunting is different from celebrating from excited.

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna throw the red flag in this one

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 2>a little bit here. I'd like to see further review

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 2>on whether or not this was actually a four pointer.

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's fair. So if you have evidence in

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the first couple months of the season of kickers or

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:48.240
<v Speaker 1>punters taunting this, we hit our community is on the level.

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean someone has this. I'm certain of that, but.

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>You just want to see in controvertible video evidence. That's right,

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that's right, conclusive. Okay, fair Will Mushamp has Seen the Light.

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Did not work out well for me because nobody really

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>cared about South Carolina and offensively, they peaked with a

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>loss I suppose to Clemson. They played a ton of

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>close games. But in order for Will must Champ seeing

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>the Light with a big offensive turnaround and sort of

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.919
<v Speaker 1>calming down a calmer Will must Champ, they just South

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Carolina was not in the limelight enough to get a

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 1>sense of that, and there was no real sense that,

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we had a different Will must Champ on

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>our hands this year.

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 2>All right on my side, this is when I selected

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 2>studio hosts unable to control a touchscreen, which is still

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe my favorite Fantasy Things selection to date. Yeah, it

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 2>did not get any points through weeks, and now.

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>People are just not watching studio shows. This did happen.

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>I saw this down the stretch. Yeah, no, this is

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:56.280
<v Speaker 1>definitely a two or three pointer.

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I still love that selection. Studio hosts unable to control

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 2>touch great.

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, it's getting easier. The technology is

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>getting better. If this pick were made in twenty thirteen,

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it would be every probably win this thing, all right,

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you're probably getting a ten or eleven out of this.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>I also had Herm Edwards NFL mindset. Let's talk a

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:18.280
<v Speaker 2>little bit about Herm.

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Dan another victim of success.

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 2>HERM Edwards, through at least the early part of the season,

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.439
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be much better than expected. Like Arizona State

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:33.479
<v Speaker 2>didn't come out looking disorganized and in disarray anything like that.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 2>They actually were pretty good. Initially.

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Twelve was also garbage better than expected. PAC twelve was garbage,

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.240
<v Speaker 1>but at times, yeah, you know, I thought, all things considered,

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Herme did a pretty good job in year one at

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Arizona State. So this is the kind of thing that

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>would have gotten I think a little bit more attention

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 1>if ASU had been a little better or a lot worse. Well,

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>this is also such a good off season pick and

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>just not a great end season one.

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, as you had kind of a five hundred season,

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know. And we're talking a lot about the NFL

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 2>mindset and his new model for success.

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there were bigger picture stories within the PAC twelve

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Once Herm Edwards was definitely competent.

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 2>On your side, you had the damn fade. Yeah, and

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 2>also Dean Blandino is wrong. The Dean Blandino one to

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 2>me again. We put all these together the night before

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 2>our live show.

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh poor Dean Blandino.

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>The two that killed me the most were the strength

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 2>coach with the screw loose and Dean Blandino being wrong.

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's nothing like being on a stage with a

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty foot Dean Blandino behind you. There's something special about that.

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>And I would argue, as Fox games got bigger and

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 1>bigger near the end of the season, and I can't

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>point to something specific and like the Northwestern Ohio State

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Big Ten Championship game, but I would argue that this

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>is bigger than the two points that got through Week nine.

0:42:56.160 --> 0:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And also the fade. Somebody a team running a fade.

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we were specific about a goal line fade

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 1>in a big moment on a third or fourth down

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>before either kicking a field goal or you know, turning

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 1>the ball over on downs. I would argue that this

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>three pointer, by the end of the season was probably

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a six or seven pointer. Come on, teams aren't calling

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>bad fades all the time?

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah, and Dean Blandino

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 2>being wrong. We were still getting commentary about that yes,

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 2>through the end of the year, so that was a

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:29.399
<v Speaker 2>really good is he.

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Doing it for? I haven't watched a lot of NFL

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 1>playoff stuff?

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Is it just Mike Pereira for the NFL? I think

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that might be.

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I have no idea. Okay, final three picks. I

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 2>had two to close out my roster. I had announcers

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:50.240
<v Speaker 2>flubbing digital trends, followed by Notre Dame quarterback questions Daniel, Yeah,

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like announcers flubbed more digital trends than this score.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 1>So are you getting two or three for this?

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.760
<v Speaker 2>It was okay, hurt a little bit of Fortnite stuff.

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, they also did a there was a piece on

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Game Day with Boston College when Boston College hosted Game Day.

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>I want. I don't know if it was Gene wo

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Jahowski was somebody did an actual piece on Fortnite. I

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he flubbed it, but I'm sure it

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the most accurate Fortnite segment.

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Fortnite was really the target of this selection, at least

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 2>through week nine. No points, but a celebration.

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Nonetheless, it was there were probably story that, like the

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 1>story about Nkosey Perry and being suspended for the Pinstripe

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Bowl because of snapchat. There's no way that was handled

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>accurately across the board, no chance.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.439
<v Speaker 2>And then the second one here, my final was Notre

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Dame quarterback questions only two points through week nine. I

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 2>feel betrayed by Brian Kelly on this one.

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he made the right call at the right moment.

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 2>He made the right call at the right moment with

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>absolutely zero fanfare. He just sort of found out before

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 2>the wake forest gained that Oh hey, ian Book's gonna play.

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Now, when did Wimbush come back? When did he come

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 1>back for the ian Book injury? I forget who he

0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>started against.

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 2>He came back against Art of State.

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now, Brian Kelly made the move at the right

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 1>time and really betrayed your trust, betrayed the experience of

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>rooting for Brian Kelly Notre Dame teams. I'm sorry to say, Ty.

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Finally screwed me over with this one. Dan, you are

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>had some flubbed it. I was the one that flubbed it.

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I had zero confidence in his ability to pull this

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>thing off without creating another tire fire, and in hindsight,

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 2>he did a pretty good job. Won all their games

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 2>until the last one.

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>The big question, the big Notre Dame quarterback question was

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>is I and Book going to throw a six yard

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>hitch to the rights to the left? Is he going

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 1>to throw a pretty well sniffed out screen. That was

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty much the question.

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>And finally the last selection, m h overly emphatic tongue. This,

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 2>according to the sheet I'm looking at, was only a

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 2>one pointer through week nine. Here is where I think

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:09.840
<v Speaker 2>we missed out on points for you. Okay, it wasn't

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:14.240
<v Speaker 2>so much with the overly emphatic tongue of I loa

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 2>as much as it was the mistaken tagavaloa. Okay, I

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.720
<v Speaker 2>heard a lot of tagavaloa. I heard tongue I looa

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and taga iloa in the same broadcast from brad Nessler.

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of apparent confusion over how you're

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:35.439
<v Speaker 2>supposed to say this name, and apparently the memo has

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 2>not reached media sources at this point. It's twenty nineteen.

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Now we're going to have another year of tua. I

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 2>could see this being another selection in some kind in

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 2>the twenty nineteen Fantasy Things Draft because they still can't

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 2>get the name right.

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Where I screwed. This pickup was just perfectly exemplified by you.

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:55.399
<v Speaker 1>You didn't say we're going to have a lot of

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>to a tongue of bi loa next season. You just

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>said we're going to have a lot of Tua and

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:03.240
<v Speaker 1>that That's essentially what happened is he was so good

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 1>that broadcasters had to say his name a ton and

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.240
<v Speaker 1>he just became tu.

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Tua like Pele right, a one yard name.

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he just became Tua. So in terms of the

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 1>potential reps of announcers, broadcasters, studio hosts, whatever, saying his

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>full name just became Tua.

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 2>So there you go. Those were our fourteen selections. It's

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 2>an inexact science this year. In putting together who won

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 2>and lost, I am willing to concede though that I

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 2>think yours most definitely got more points than my.

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Third straight year. I think it'd be a third straight

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 1>year yeah mm dynasty and first year the dynasty, thank you. Yeah.

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 2>The first year that we did this, you and I

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 2>argued about who won, I remember, and that did not

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.799
<v Speaker 2>go well for my reputation. A lot of folks told

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>me that I was a beta male after that one,

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 2>that yeah, I bullied you, that you bullied me, that

0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 2>you pushed me around. So last year, the Reddit community

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>answered by actually keeping track there was empirical data to

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 2>suggest and eventually crowning the champion. This year, it's a

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 2>little bit of both. But if the scoring was accurate

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 2>through week nine, you had such a healthy lead that

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 2>there's no way I ever could have come back.

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's I should say, because it's an inexact

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>grading science. Next year, we are happy to announce that

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>this will all be judged by the honorable Ruth bader

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Gets that's right, So any any issues that you have

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>with this final grading next year take up with the

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 1>honorable RBG.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:36.280
<v Speaker 2>That's RBG.

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me?

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, a fun year as always. I had hope to

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>get to some of our favorite predictions from the twenty

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 1>eighteen preseason, but seeing if you want to be accountable

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>on another episode, yeah, let's be accountable on another episode.

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Kind oft.

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we made some real bad predictions, and I've been

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:57.239
<v Speaker 1>listening back. I was, I was scrubbing through a bunch

0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:01.359
<v Speaker 1>of these episodes and I did surprised myself by being

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:05.280
<v Speaker 1>right like two out of ten times in a conference

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:09.319
<v Speaker 1>or a division or whatever. But there were some It

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even that there were bad predictions. It was just

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>there were unfortunate moments where we were talking about players

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.759
<v Speaker 1>that we really thought were going to matter. Yeah, for

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 1>good reason. We were just like man Bryce Love, and

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:22.919
<v Speaker 1>we just spent a lot of time on Bryce Love

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and like it was really unfortunate that he was injured

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen for a majority of the season or

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>beat off at least, and talking about Khalil Tate and

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:33.359
<v Speaker 1>talking about Chico mcclatcher. I guess we really screwed up

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the back twelve. But across college football, we were focusing

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>on players that, ultimately, because of injury, because of performance,

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 1>because of just being outplayed by other players on the

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.719
<v Speaker 1>depth chart, didn't matter as much as at least we

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 1>had figured they would. So that was kind of funny

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>listening to like how much time we spent on like

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Tarik Black when talking about Michigan stuff like that.

0:49:56.360 --> 0:50:00.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, And for every prescient moment where I

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 2>said something like Florida State feels like a six and

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>sixteen to me, and you got hell for I got

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 2>hell for that.

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 1>You were you were even too optimistic.

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 1>We nailed a couple which I was pretty proud of.

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 1>We knew like and we'll get we'll do an accountability,

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 1>we'll do it.

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 2>But my point is for every time I said something

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 2>like Florida State's going to go six and six and

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 2>be a five hundred team, there were about four things, like,

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, Louisville could get to eight or nine wins

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 2>this year, Juan pass pass, I could see six wins

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 2>for Arkansas. It could happened. They might be, it might

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 2>be plucky. Dan.

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were in the in the glow of July

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and August optimism. We perhaps we sunshine pumped a little,

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<v Speaker 1>and so never again will we think good things?

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<v Speaker 2>That big step back Ye're coming from Mike Leach.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, can we pledge to like actually do the

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<v Speaker 1>proper math or is that just too much when we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing when we do these predictions in twenty nineteen in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like, no, not every team from this conference

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<v Speaker 1>can make a bowl game.

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<v Speaker 2>We had some mathematicians and actuaries doing the numbers on

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<v Speaker 2>our predictions, and it does seem as if it were

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<v Speaker 2>impossible for many of these predictions to ever come true.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true. Yeah, we will review what we did

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<v Speaker 1>and did not get right. Yeah, looking at even you

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<v Speaker 1>put yours on this document in front of us, and

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 1>you were a thorough and I remember, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even going to talk about the actual predictions, but we

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<v Speaker 1>remember what we did the are we sure? Episode where

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<v Speaker 1>we questioned conventional wisdom, which by the way, was one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite episodes we did last summer. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>specifically saying to you and the audience like, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>to a tongue of Ailoa is going to be the starter?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we sure that just because he finished that Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>National Championship game and championship fashion, that he's outright winning

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<v Speaker 1>this job? And we did. Are we sure that Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a rough go at Texas A and M,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to beat out Austin Kendall, the one I'm

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<v Speaker 1>most proud of? There? There are we sure Shape Patterson

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 1>is really good in The Savior because that turned out

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to be somewhat accurate that he was pretty good but

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<v Speaker 1>was not good enough to eventually get that offense over

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<v Speaker 1>the hump in big moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it may have been bigger than Shape Patterson.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, So I'm excited to do that episode again. I

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<v Speaker 1>was already Tie so excited for Are we sure Cliff

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury is going to revolutionize the USC offense and that

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the problems don't run deeper? And he took that from us, Tie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will never forgive him.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Well, we've got a long off season in

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:48.840
<v Speaker 2>front of us, and we've got a bunch of preseason

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 2>crow that we need to eat. So we'll do that

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.399
<v Speaker 2>show at some point in the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned here. Soliverble dot com is where you can

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0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 2>going on with us this off season. January a bit

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 2>of a slower month for us as we kind of

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 2>settle back into the normal rhymes and rhythms of the

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<v Speaker 2>off season.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do some debriefing, Like I want to

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>talk to people like, wait, what happened with NC State?

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 1>What happened with Texas A and M What I want

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to do? I don't know if it's conference wise. Our

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Homer episodes, But we spend so much time looking at

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 1>big picture and top level and bowl games and whatever

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:36.439
<v Speaker 1>that I think it's important to look at like, hey,

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:39.840
<v Speaker 1>what you know, we don't always have the time to,

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, pick a part and do autopsies of seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think for us to understand better, I think

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>for everybody listening to understand better, we should do some autopsies.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we can do that, some post mortem sure, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Well, it's a long off season. Do sign

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 2>up for that newsletter for updates. Dan and I are

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 2>always cooking stuff up in the here. We're excited about

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen. The fantasy things will again be happening in

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.399
<v Speaker 2>a city near you. But you're gonna have to stay

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 2>tuned to find out more information on that. We promised

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to plan that out a little bit more in advance

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 2>this year. That's our pledge to you, as your two students.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 2>We did it. We did a good job. We knew

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<v Speaker 2>it was, we knew the city, We knew the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you as always to everyone out there for

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<v Speaker 2>tuning in. We'll be back next Wednesday talking more college football.

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<v Speaker 2>But Daniel Yes. In the meantime, enjoy your week, enjoy

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 2>your weekend, Enjoy some extra breathing room here as we

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<v Speaker 2>now switch over to our once a week schedule. And

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll talk to you when I talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that sounds right. This has be an

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<v Speaker 1>exciting January, Ty, I've got that feeling for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Go over there, Dan, I'm tied. Talk to you when

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<v Speaker 2>we talk. You stay solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Peace,