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Speaker 1: I'm for I've heard so many players say, well I

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Speaker 2: Is that whoo whoom? And then and Tye, welcome back

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Speaker 2: to the Solid Verbal boys and girls. My name is

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Speaker 2: ty Hildenbrandt. Joining me is always over there in beautiful

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Speaker 2: New York City. My man Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great, Ty, I just got the call that I

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Speaker 1: will be joining the Oakland. A's okay, a piercing have

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Speaker 1: a roster spot for me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you play center field?

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of hamstring stretching to do. Tie,

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of stretching. I am good. I

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Speaker 1: have uh, just a lot of excitement. We haven't spoke.

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Speaker 2: We did it.

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Speaker 1: We recorded what right after the National Championship game eight

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Speaker 1: am after the National Championship game.

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Speaker 2: That was Tuesday morning, so it's been a little bit

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Speaker 2: longer than usual. This show is actually going to drop

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday, January sixteenth. If you're listening to us, now,

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Speaker 2: hello from the past, because yeah, Dan old habits die hard.

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Speaker 2: We decided we're going to wake up early. We are

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Speaker 2: recording this bright and early, nine am Sunday morning, it

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Speaker 2: advance of the Wednesday posting.

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Speaker 1: It's just too long between shows. It's too long between

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, bright and early all the way until the

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Speaker 1: following Wednesday. With everything news wise, with transfers, with guys returning,

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Speaker 1: and just general news, and the fact that we wanted

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Speaker 1: to recap bad predictions and our fantasy things drafts. It

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Speaker 2: Right, of course, sure behind the bookcase.

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Speaker 1: If Nick Saban retires, if Urban Meyer decides he wants

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Speaker 1: this is how we're operating as of now.

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Speaker 2: And as of now, Dan, everyone is undefeated. I love

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Speaker 2: that joke. It's not even so much a joke as

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Speaker 2: it is a cold hard fact. We are squarely in

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Speaker 2: the off season. We've got a bunch of news to

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Speaker 2: a fair amount to cover here, even though there isn't

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Speaker 2: any football taking place. But on that note, Dan, are

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Speaker 2: you enjoying the first week of the college football postseason?

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Speaker 1: It's been an active one. Yeah, I listen. I I

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Speaker 2: So I have to give you full disclosure here place.

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Speaker 2: I was out late last night, later than oh look

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Speaker 2: I was at a game night until very late.

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Speaker 1: There's at least ten percent of people that heard you

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Speaker 2: I want to start with Cliff Kingsbury to the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, so procedurally, I don't know if he resigned.

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Speaker 1: it's not great, it's not pretty, it's not a great look.

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Speaker 1: But in the scheme of the machinations of hiring, whatever

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Speaker 2: It was memorable, And.

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Speaker 1: Of all of the memories we cherish of the Cliff

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Speaker 2: Cliff is gone. He is new head football coach at Arizona.

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Speaker 2: To that point, there was another college coach who was

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Speaker 2: He said, quote, I'm never going to be in an

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Speaker 2: so whatever their process is for finding and identifying and

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, that's same sort of stupid that if you're

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Speaker 1: there for an NFL job, that you would want to

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Speaker 2: All Right, we got a bunch of hiring news that

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Speaker 2: we're going to have to rifle through. Neil Brown is

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Speaker 2: the new coach at West Virginia. Your boy, Neil Brown

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Speaker 2: Tony Gibson going to NC State, I.

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Speaker 1: Believe, Yeah, that is the report at our power, Bruce

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Speaker 1: NC State, you know, with some changes, hiring Tony Gibson

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Speaker 2: Temple's new head coach is going to be Rod Kerry

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Speaker 1: Exceedingly solid, has done a very good job with Northern

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Speaker 2: Louisville has hired Court Dennison as co defensive coordinator. I

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Speaker 2: To you, coordinator, speaking of guys who bounce around. Jim Cheney, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Our joke forever has been that he's the offensive consultant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they whiffed on a number of candidates. Reportedly, Tennessee

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Speaker 2: And finally, on the coaching front, we have Dana Holgerson

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurt has at least three schools that are reportedly

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Speaker 1: Connections to the first two with Mike Laxley and Danny Andos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma is mentioned here. That's a note because Austin

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I always curious about that too.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see it's it was a late.

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Speaker 1: Night Dan Listen, Swing or city.

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Speaker 2: It will be interesting to see which direction Oklahoma goes

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Speaker 2: for its quarterback next year. All right, who else we

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Speaker 1: Juan John ammeron speaking of Penn State, he's in the

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Speaker 1: right with drops that would be putting it mildly Dan. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But physically just exactly what you want out of a

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Speaker 2: All right, here are your declarations very quickly. For Alabama,

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, we all these names make sense to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's like a Notre Dame situation where you are technically

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have Cody Ford from Oklahoma, their offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: We record were it's nine to forty am on Sunday

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Speaker 1: to this. But as of now, we personally do not

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Speaker 1: know exactly what Kyler Murray's future holds. But there was

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Speaker 2: All right, well, we'll talk about that more momentarily, I promise,

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Speaker 2: and returning to school, Troy Die, Christian Fulton, MALIEK. Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Auburn a big winner other than Stidham, and I think

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Speaker 2: Who else do we got here?

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Speaker 1: Any other big? Go the tight end form Maszook, you go, yeah, amazing.

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Speaker 1: He and I think Jase Sternberger were probably the clear

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Speaker 1: declares a few weeks ago, Big Oh is coming back.

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Speaker 2: Give me like twenty seconds about former Oregon players suing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's Doug Brenner, former offensive lineman, and Sam Potassi. Potassi,

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Speaker 2: That was good.

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Speaker 1: So those two players have decided to sue Willy Taggart's

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Speaker 1: And there were some quotes that, you know, Willy Taggert

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Speaker 1: early on by Willy Taggart and his staff at Oregon.

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Speaker 1: So they're suing them from millions of.

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Speaker 2: Dollars eleven point five million to be exact, it.

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Speaker 1: Was eleven point five and I think Potassi is like

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Speaker 1: held responsible. The strength coach I remember, was suspended for

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Speaker 2: All right, Dan, before we go any further, today's show

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Speaker 1: Nice Daniel.

471
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Speaker 2: Back in August, you and I hopped aboard the bird.

472
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: We sort our way to the Great Midwest, to the

473
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Speaker 2: Windy City as it were. Yeah, and we did a

474
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Speaker 2: live show, our Live Fantasy Things Draft. It was smashing

475
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: good fun at the Vidom Theater, had an exuberant crowd.

476
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: We each picked seven selections for something that we called

477
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: our Fantasy Things Draft. And what we did is instead

478
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: of drafting players, we draft storylines. We draft narratives that

479
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: we think are going to be discussed talked about newsworthy

480
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: throughout the course of the season. I have our rosters

481
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: in front of us today. We need to go through

482
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: these and so.

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Speaker 1: Last year, via our friends on the soliverbal subreddit, which

484
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: by the way, you should join, there was grading throughout

485
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: the season and not that there wasn't this year because

486
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: there was Did you grade this or is this from

487
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: the community?

488
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: This is from the community, Dan, So here's interesting. Okay,

489
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: here is my read on what happened, because all we

490
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: have access to is the scoring through week nine. Okay,

491
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: after week nine, you were up by an eighteen to

492
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: eleven score on me.

493
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: So week nine would have been late October approaching Halloween.

494
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: That's right. Eighteen to eleven through nine weeks of the

495
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: season is basically the margin of victory for Clemson in

496
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: the National Championship. In this game, in this context, it

497
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: is very difficult to come from seven points behind because

498
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: what that entails is Jimbo Fisher's contract or Herm Edwards

499
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: NFL mindset, or any of my items hitting seven more

500
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: times than yours do or than yours did, which would

501
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: have been a monumental comeback given I think, in hindsight,

502
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: the strength of your roster. Yes, my best guess here

503
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: as to what transpired is that people were keeping track

504
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: of this. They saw that it was a blowout, they

505
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: saw this was a crock potting, and they lost some interest.

506
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, here's the thing. We don't necessarily do this

507
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: to win. We sort of do this to celebrate speak

508
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: for yourself, brother, I understand. And so like a couple

509
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: of your draft picks that have been graded out as

510
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: what zero out of five, this is between zero and five,

511
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: Zero being just never happens, five being this is this

512
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: is the commonplace thing. So this is the number of

513
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: weeks that oh, okay, where it's occurred. Each of these

514
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: items actually occurred or was brought up in.

515
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

516
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: So two of your draft picks I think are the

517
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: best things ever. They got a big laugh in the

518
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: Vidom theater. And I cannot fault you for taking these

519
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: things because the other wonderful things I can't argue it.

520
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: I really wish, though, in looking at this, that we

521
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: had consistent studio hosts unable to control their touch screen,

522
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: and that kills me that we didn't get more of that.

523
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to

524
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: walk through each of our items. I am willing to

525
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: concede defeat to you. I think that yours, just in

526
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: terms of how many points you got, yours were stronger.

527
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: But let's just do a bit of a retrospective here

528
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: and look back at each of these items. So big,

529
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: thank you. My first overall pick was Jimbo Fisher's contract.

530
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, did that include Jimbo Fisher Texas things or that

531
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: was just an aside we had.

532
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: I think that was just an aside that we had.

533
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 2: But Okay, Jimbo Fisher's contract was clearly a talking point early.

534
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: My suspicion is that it will continue to be a

535
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: talking point for every year that Jimbo Fisher is at

536
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: Texas A and M, although we might hear less about

537
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: it now given the fact that he had a good

538
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: finish to his season in destroying NC State in the

539
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: bowl game, and also is building towards something now like

540
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: you can feel the momentum with that A and M program,

541
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 2: There will probably be less criticism in twenty nineteen of

542
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: the contract compared to what we might have heard in

543
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen.

544
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh, he says, forgetting which fan base we're talking about.

545
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: I think the actual misqueue here was the contract will

546
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: be something that is talked about in May and July

547
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: previewing the season, But in season the focus is just

548
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: going to be more on is Kellen Mond developing. Is

549
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Travon Williams one of the best running backs in the country.

550
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: How well did Mike Elko do getting this defense to

551
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: a pretty respectable place. You know, there there are so

552
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: many talking points in season that unless Texas A and

553
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: M is a total disaster, that the contract probably won't

554
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: come up a lot. It would have been funnier, or

555
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: if there's a NFL interest NFL interest, right, it would

556
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: have been funnier in hindsight if instead of the contract

557
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: we honed in on the Texas things him riding a bull.

558
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: But even that felt like it was over by the

559
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: time the season starting.

560
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Jimbo Fisher's contract was the number one overall pick

561
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: felt very strong at the time. Seems like it dwindled

562
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: off pretty quickly, but nonetheless, the celebration of a monster

563
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: contract in college football your first selection, so our second

564
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: pick was personally my favorite, and the scores, at least

565
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: the scores through week nine seemed to indicate that as well.

566
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: Five times through Week nine. Strength coach with a screw

567
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: loose was a prominent talking point. So before the start

568
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: of the year we talked a lot about strength coaches

569
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: and how presumably they had a bit of a screw loose.

570
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: Of course, it came up with this item the night

571
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: before we did the Fantasy Things Draft and I was

572
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 2: giggling uncontrollably at the mere thought of just saying strength

573
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: coach with the screw loose. We saw this countless times

574
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: this year, I think more recently with the north Western

575
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: strength coach who wore the extra medium shirt uh huh,

576
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: and it was like freezing cold, didn't wear the jacket

577
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: that business.

578
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: So we're talking after week nine though, so you're almost

579
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: fortunate that this cuts out.

580
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. This was a really popular and.

581
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: November yeah, so strong pick by me.

582
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 2: Yes, welcome home. Scott Frost was your next selection.

583
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: With a caveat, we needed to see belly button in

584
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: any old pictures of him playing it in like one

585
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: of those cutoff jerseys. So certainly, yes, every week that

586
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: Nebraska played there was probably a reference to Scott Frost

587
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: returning home to Lincoln where he played a couple of

588
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: seasons worth and grew up in Nebraska. But we did

589
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: need that specific picture, so in a couple of weeks early

590
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: on had it.

591
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: I got to give you credit for playing this one

592
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: straight and being being an honest competitor in not just

593
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: taking the easy points here.

594
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't picking it like you picked Tom Ernaldi tearjerker.

595
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: Right, that's right.

596
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, this was not super fruitful, but I'm happy

597
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: we got to talk about man navels part of this.

598
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: Next two picks for me were Kyler Murray playing baseball

599
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: and the backups are better than another team starters. Kyler

600
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: Murray playing baseball was a talking point early and then

601
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: very quickly diminished because yeah, his his own play. Yeah,

602
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: because he played at such a high level. I remember

603
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: back before the start of the season, and we may

604
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: get to predictions this show. We may have to do

605
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: it the next show because we're running short on time here,

606
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: but I remember I named Kyler Murray is one of

607
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: my nineteen most pivotal people before the twenty eighteen season,

608
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: and at one point I said that Kyler Murray was

609
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: the most intriguing player, the most exciting player in all

610
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: of college football. And you gave me a hard time about.

611
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: That I did.

612
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: In retrospect. That seems to be one of the only

613
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: predictions I got correct. This is true. We didn't end

614
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: up talking about Kyler Murray's baseball because Kyler Murray's football

615
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: was so damn good he won the Heisman Trophy. Now, unfortunately,

616
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: the season's over, but now we're talking more about the

617
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: baseball because of the NFL draft thing. It appears as

618
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: if he wants to play football, which duh.

619
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: Of course he talked about playing both.

620
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: Of course he wanted to play football. If he didn't

621
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: want to play football, he wouldn't play. He would have played.

622
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: This year. He just went and played baseball. So he played.

623
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: He did really well. I saw our friends over at

624
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus are all in on Kyler Murray as

625
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: an NFL prospect, even though he's a little bit smaller.

626
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna have plenty of talk about Kyler Murray going

627
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: to the NFL, I'm sure in the coming days of weeks,

628
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: but at least for the interim and as it relates

629
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: to our fantasy things here, this was not a huge

630
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: selection in terms of points, but again as a celebration item,

631
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: this was fun at the start of the year. This

632
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: is a fun little thing that announcers sunk their teeth into.

633
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was interesting that he played so well that

634
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: you couldn't even talk about the most interesting part of

635
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: his background because he in the present was so excellent

636
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma, obviously eventually winning the Heisman Trophy, and I

637
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: think we had a caveat with this that he had

638
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: to be a picture of him.

639
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: In a bay the baseball for me need the baby.

640
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'd set Oklahoma and Oakland, whatever

641
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: it was, so there was a caveat to this specific pick,

642
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: and especially after again we were recording this Sunday morning

643
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: in the shadow of a recent Big twelve Air raid

644
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: ish quarterback with a baseball background succeeding wildly and is

645
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: perhaps the MVP of the NFL season. It looks like

646
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as a football player.

647
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well, good luck to him. My other

648
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: pick here backups better than another team starters. That's an

649
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: old classic here on the show, And I was thinking

650
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: about this a little bit last night when I put

651
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: this together. But now, given all the talk of this

652
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: mysterious transfer portal, it feels like we're headed to a

653
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: place where the twenty nineteen Fantasy Things Draft in parts

654
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: unknown is going to include some combination of backups being

655
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: better than the team starters. With this new mysterious transfer

656
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: portal that we hear an awful lot about, I feel

657
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: like that could be a really good selection.

658
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: I will say this for this specific selection, which is

659
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: a three pointer here through week nine. I think if

660
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: we're grading this through the National Championship, when there was

661
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: so much focus on both Alabama and Clemson's depth, that

662
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: this is probably more of like a six or seven pointer.

663
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: This is why that had more upside potential.

664
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think it was I think his name

665
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: is Pinkney who uh sniffed out the terrible, terrible fake

666
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: field goal from Alabama. It was a Clemson backup defensive lineman.

667
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: Obviously we had Albert Huggins stepping in for Dexter Lawrence.

668
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: There was a lot of that talk of yes, isn't

669
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: it great to have this much depth? If he weren't

670
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: on Clemson, if he weren't playing for Alabama, he would

671
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: be starting at one hundred and fifty other schools, and

672
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks who are transferring, the backup quarterbacks, I think

673
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts would be starting for many schools, but as

674
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: a backup at Alabama. So yes, I think this one

675
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent a grower over a shower.

676
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: All right on your side. So you had two consecutive

677
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: selections kickers and punters taunting followed by Will Muschamp has

678
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: seen the light now Here's what I don't understand about this.

679
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: I trust whoever compiled this sheet, and I certainly trust

680
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: the solid verbal Reddit community. Of course, I had no

681
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: idea that kickers and punters were taunting this much through

682
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: week nine. This is a four pointer. Relative to the

683
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: other thirteen selections on this list, this would be the

684
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 2: second best, right behind strength Coach has a screw loose.

685
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: It did happen. There were moments early on during the

686
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: season where and I think part of it is because

687
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: college kickers and punters are sometimes so surprised that they're

688
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: succeeding and making big kicks and succeeding in big moments

689
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: that they can't help but to get overly excited. So yes, we.

690
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: Did have this or here is my beef with this though, Okay,

691
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: you taunt an opponent. Taunting is different from celebrating from excited.

692
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna throw the red flag in this one

693
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: a little bit here. I'd like to see further review

694
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: on whether or not this was actually a four pointer.

695
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: All right, that's fair. So if you have evidence in

696
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: the first couple months of the season of kickers or

697
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: punters taunting this, we hit our community is on the level.

698
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 2: I mean someone has this. I'm certain of that, but.

699
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: You just want to see in controvertible video evidence. That's right,

700
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: that's right, conclusive. Okay, fair Will Mushamp has Seen the Light.

701
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: Did not work out well for me because nobody really

702
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: cared about South Carolina and offensively, they peaked with a

703
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: loss I suppose to Clemson. They played a ton of

704
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: close games. But in order for Will must Champ seeing

705
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: the Light with a big offensive turnaround and sort of

706
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: calming down a calmer Will must Champ, they just South

707
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: Carolina was not in the limelight enough to get a

708
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: sense of that, and there was no real sense that,

709
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, we had a different Will must Champ on

710
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: our hands this year.

711
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: All right on my side, this is when I selected

712
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: studio hosts unable to control a touchscreen, which is still

713
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: maybe my favorite Fantasy Things selection to date. Yeah, it

714
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: did not get any points through weeks, and now.

715
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: People are just not watching studio shows. This did happen.

716
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: I saw this down the stretch. Yeah, no, this is

717
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: definitely a two or three pointer.

718
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 2: I still love that selection. Studio hosts unable to control

719
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: touch great.

720
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's getting easier. The technology is

721
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: getting better. If this pick were made in twenty thirteen,

722
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: it would be every probably win this thing, all right,

723
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: you're probably getting a ten or eleven out of this.

724
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: I also had Herm Edwards NFL mindset. Let's talk a

725
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: little bit about Herm.

726
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: Dan another victim of success.

727
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: HERM Edwards, through at least the early part of the season,

728
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 2: seemed to be much better than expected. Like Arizona State

729
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 2: didn't come out looking disorganized and in disarray anything like that.

730
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: They actually were pretty good. Initially.

731
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Twelve was also garbage better than expected. PAC twelve was garbage,

732
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: but at times, yeah, you know, I thought, all things considered,

733
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: Herme did a pretty good job in year one at

734
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: Arizona State. So this is the kind of thing that

735
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: would have gotten I think a little bit more attention

736
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: if ASU had been a little better or a lot worse. Well,

737
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: this is also such a good off season pick and

738
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: just not a great end season one.

739
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: You know, as you had kind of a five hundred season,

740
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: don't know. And we're talking a lot about the NFL

741
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: mindset and his new model for success.

742
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were bigger picture stories within the PAC twelve

743
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: Once Herm Edwards was definitely competent.

744
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: On your side, you had the damn fade. Yeah, and

745
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: also Dean Blandino is wrong. The Dean Blandino one to

746
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: me again. We put all these together the night before

747
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: our live show.

748
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: Oh poor Dean Blandino.

749
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: The two that killed me the most were the strength

750
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: coach with the screw loose and Dean Blandino being wrong.

751
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing like being on a stage with a

752
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: twenty foot Dean Blandino behind you. There's something special about that.

753
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: And I would argue, as Fox games got bigger and

754
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: bigger near the end of the season, and I can't

755
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: point to something specific and like the Northwestern Ohio State

756
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship game, but I would argue that this

757
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: is bigger than the two points that got through Week nine.

758
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: And also the fade. Somebody a team running a fade.

759
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: I think we were specific about a goal line fade

760
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: in a big moment on a third or fourth down

761
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: before either kicking a field goal or you know, turning

762
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: the ball over on downs. I would argue that this

763
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: three pointer, by the end of the season was probably

764
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: a six or seven pointer. Come on, teams aren't calling

765
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: bad fades all the time?

766
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah, and Dean Blandino

767
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: being wrong. We were still getting commentary about that yes,

768
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: through the end of the year, so that was a

769
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 2: really good is he.

770
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: Doing it for? I haven't watched a lot of NFL

771
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: playoff stuff?

772
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

773
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: Is it just Mike Pereira for the NFL? I think

774
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: that might be.

775
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: Gosh, I have no idea. Okay, final three picks. I

776
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: had two to close out my roster. I had announcers

777
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: flubbing digital trends, followed by Notre Dame quarterback questions Daniel, Yeah,

778
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: I feel like announcers flubbed more digital trends than this score.

779
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: So are you getting two or three for this?

780
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: It was okay, hurt a little bit of Fortnite stuff.

781
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: Well, they also did a there was a piece on

782
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: Game Day with Boston College when Boston College hosted Game Day.

783
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: I want. I don't know if it was Gene wo

784
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: Jahowski was somebody did an actual piece on Fortnite. I

785
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: don't know if he flubbed it, but I'm sure it

786
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: wasn't the most accurate Fortnite segment.

787
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: Fortnite was really the target of this selection, at least

788
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: through week nine. No points, but a celebration.

789
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, it was there were probably story that, like the

790
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: story about Nkosey Perry and being suspended for the Pinstripe

791
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: Bowl because of snapchat. There's no way that was handled

792
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: accurately across the board, no chance.

793
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 2: And then the second one here, my final was Notre

794
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: Dame quarterback questions only two points through week nine. I

795
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: feel betrayed by Brian Kelly on this one.

796
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he made the right call at the right moment.

797
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: He made the right call at the right moment with

798
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: absolutely zero fanfare. He just sort of found out before

799
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: the wake forest gained that Oh hey, ian Book's gonna play.

800
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: Now, when did Wimbush come back? When did he come

801
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: back for the ian Book injury? I forget who he

802
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: started against.

803
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: He came back against Art of State.

804
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: Okay, now, Brian Kelly made the move at the right

805
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: time and really betrayed your trust, betrayed the experience of

806
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: rooting for Brian Kelly Notre Dame teams. I'm sorry to say, Ty.

807
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: Finally screwed me over with this one. Dan, you are

808
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: had some flubbed it. I was the one that flubbed it.

809
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: I had zero confidence in his ability to pull this

810
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: thing off without creating another tire fire, and in hindsight,

811
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: he did a pretty good job. Won all their games

812
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: until the last one.

813
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: The big question, the big Notre Dame quarterback question was

814
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: is I and Book going to throw a six yard

815
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: hitch to the rights to the left? Is he going

816
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: to throw a pretty well sniffed out screen. That was

817
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: pretty much the question.

818
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: And finally the last selection, m h overly emphatic tongue. This,

819
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: according to the sheet I'm looking at, was only a

820
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: one pointer through week nine. Here is where I think

821
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: we missed out on points for you. Okay, it wasn't

822
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: so much with the overly emphatic tongue of I loa

823
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: as much as it was the mistaken tagavaloa. Okay, I

824
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 2: heard a lot of tagavaloa. I heard tongue I looa

825
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: and taga iloa in the same broadcast from brad Nessler.

826
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: There was a lot of apparent confusion over how you're

827
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 2: supposed to say this name, and apparently the memo has

828
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: not reached media sources at this point. It's twenty nineteen.

829
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: Now we're going to have another year of tua. I

830
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: could see this being another selection in some kind in

831
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen Fantasy Things Draft because they still can't

832
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: get the name right.

833
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: Where I screwed. This pickup was just perfectly exemplified by you.

834
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: You didn't say we're going to have a lot of

835
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: to a tongue of bi loa next season. You just

836
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: said we're going to have a lot of Tua and

837
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: that That's essentially what happened is he was so good

838
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: that broadcasters had to say his name a ton and

839
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: he just became tu.

840
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: Tua like Pele right, a one yard name.

841
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: Yes, he just became Tua. So in terms of the

842
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: potential reps of announcers, broadcasters, studio hosts, whatever, saying his

843
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: full name just became Tua.

844
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: So there you go. Those were our fourteen selections. It's

845
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: an inexact science this year. In putting together who won

846
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: and lost, I am willing to concede though that I

847
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: think yours most definitely got more points than my.

848
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: Third straight year. I think it'd be a third straight

849
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: year yeah mm dynasty and first year the dynasty, thank you. Yeah.

850
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: The first year that we did this, you and I

851
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: argued about who won, I remember, and that did not

852
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: go well for my reputation. A lot of folks told

853
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: me that I was a beta male after that one,

854
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: that yeah, I bullied you, that you bullied me, that

855
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: you pushed me around. So last year, the Reddit community

856
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: answered by actually keeping track there was empirical data to

857
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: suggest and eventually crowning the champion. This year, it's a

858
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: little bit of both. But if the scoring was accurate

859
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: through week nine, you had such a healthy lead that

860
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: there's no way I ever could have come back.

861
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I should say, because it's an inexact

862
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: grading science. Next year, we are happy to announce that

863
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: this will all be judged by the honorable Ruth bader

864
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: Gets that's right, So any any issues that you have

865
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: with this final grading next year take up with the

866
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: honorable RBG.

867
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 2: That's RBG.

868
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Speaker 1: Excuse me?

869
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: All right?

870
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: Well, a fun year as always. I had hope to

871
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: get to some of our favorite predictions from the twenty

872
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: eighteen preseason, but seeing if you want to be accountable

873
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: on another episode, yeah, let's be accountable on another episode.

874
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: Kind oft.

875
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we made some real bad predictions, and I've been

876
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: listening back. I was, I was scrubbing through a bunch

877
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: of these episodes and I did surprised myself by being

878
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: right like two out of ten times in a conference

879
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: or a division or whatever. But there were some It

880
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: wasn't even that there were bad predictions. It was just

881
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: there were unfortunate moments where we were talking about players

882
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: that we really thought were going to matter. Yeah, for

883
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: good reason. We were just like man Bryce Love, and

884
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: we just spent a lot of time on Bryce Love

885
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: and like it was really unfortunate that he was injured

886
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen for a majority of the season or

887
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: beat off at least, and talking about Khalil Tate and

888
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: talking about Chico mcclatcher. I guess we really screwed up

889
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: the back twelve. But across college football, we were focusing

890
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: on players that, ultimately, because of injury, because of performance,

891
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: because of just being outplayed by other players on the

892
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: depth chart, didn't matter as much as at least we

893
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: had figured they would. So that was kind of funny

894
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: listening to like how much time we spent on like

895
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: Tarik Black when talking about Michigan stuff like that.

896
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, And for every prescient moment where I

897
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: said something like Florida State feels like a six and

898
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: sixteen to me, and you got hell for I got

899
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: hell for that.

900
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: You were you were even too optimistic.

901
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: That's right.

902
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: We nailed a couple which I was pretty proud of.

903
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: We knew like and we'll get we'll do an accountability,

904
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: we'll do it.

905
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: But my point is for every time I said something

906
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: like Florida State's going to go six and six and

907
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: be a five hundred team, there were about four things, like,

908
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: you know, Louisville could get to eight or nine wins

909
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: this year, Juan pass pass, I could see six wins

910
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: for Arkansas. It could happened. They might be, it might

911
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: be plucky. Dan.

912
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were in the in the glow of July

913
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: and August optimism. We perhaps we sunshine pumped a little,

914
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: and so never again will we think good things?

915
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: That big step back Ye're coming from Mike Leach.

916
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: You know, can we pledge to like actually do the

917
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: proper math or is that just too much when we're

918
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: doing when we do these predictions in twenty nineteen in

919
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: terms of like, no, not every team from this conference

920
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: can make a bowl game.

921
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: We had some mathematicians and actuaries doing the numbers on

922
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: our predictions, and it does seem as if it were

923
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: impossible for many of these predictions to ever come true.

924
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: This is true. Yeah, we will review what we did

925
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: and did not get right. Yeah, looking at even you

926
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: put yours on this document in front of us, and

927
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: you were a thorough and I remember, and I'm not

928
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: even going to talk about the actual predictions, but we

929
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: remember what we did the are we sure? Episode where

930
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: we questioned conventional wisdom, which by the way, was one

931
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes we did last summer. I remember

932
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: specifically saying to you and the audience like, I'm sure

933
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: to a tongue of Ailoa is going to be the starter?

934
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: Are we sure that just because he finished that Georgia

935
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: National Championship game and championship fashion, that he's outright winning

936
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: this job? And we did. Are we sure that Murray,

937
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: who had a rough go at Texas A and M,

938
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: is going to beat out Austin Kendall, the one I'm

939
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: most proud of? There? There are we sure Shape Patterson

940
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: is really good in The Savior because that turned out

941
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: to be somewhat accurate that he was pretty good but

942
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: was not good enough to eventually get that offense over

943
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: the hump in big moments.

944
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it may have been bigger than Shape Patterson.

945
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: Correct, So I'm excited to do that episode again. I

946
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: was already Tie so excited for Are we sure Cliff

947
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: Kingsbury is going to revolutionize the USC offense and that

948
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: the problems don't run deeper? And he took that from us, Tie,

949
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: and I will never forgive him.

950
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, we've got a long off season in

951
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: front of us, and we've got a bunch of preseason

952
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: crow that we need to eat. So we'll do that

953
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: show at some point in the next couple of weeks.

954
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: Stay tuned here. Soliverble dot com is where you can

955
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,479
Speaker 2: find all the stuff relevant to the show. We also

956
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: have a Twitter, we have a Facebook, We post on Instagram.

957
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: Sign up for the newsletter if you're interested in what's

958
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: going on with us this off season. January a bit

959
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: of a slower month for us as we kind of

960
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: settle back into the normal rhymes and rhythms of the

961
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: off season.

962
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: I want to do some debriefing, Like I want to

963
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: talk to people like, wait, what happened with NC State?

964
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: What happened with Texas A and M What I want

965
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: to do? I don't know if it's conference wise. Our

966
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: Homer episodes, But we spend so much time looking at

967
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: big picture and top level and bowl games and whatever

968
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: that I think it's important to look at like, hey,

969
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: what you know, we don't always have the time to,

970
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, pick a part and do autopsies of seasons.

971
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: And I think for us to understand better, I think

972
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: for everybody listening to understand better, we should do some autopsies.

973
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: All right, we can do that, some post mortem sure, yeah, yeah,

974
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: all right. Well, it's a long off season. Do sign

975
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: up for that newsletter for updates. Dan and I are

976
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: always cooking stuff up in the here. We're excited about

977
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. The fantasy things will again be happening in

978
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 2: a city near you. But you're gonna have to stay

979
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: tuned to find out more information on that. We promised

980
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: to plan that out a little bit more in advance

981
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: this year. That's our pledge to you, as your two students.

982
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: We did a pretty good job.

983
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: We did it. We did a good job. We knew

984
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: it was, we knew the city, We knew the city.

985
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah all right.

986
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: Well, thank you as always to everyone out there for

987
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: tuning in. We'll be back next Wednesday talking more college football.

988
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: But Daniel Yes. In the meantime, enjoy your week, enjoy

989
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: your weekend, Enjoy some extra breathing room here as we

990
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: now switch over to our once a week schedule. And

991
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: I guess I'll talk to you when I talk to you.

992
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that sounds right. This has be an

993
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: exciting January, Ty, I've got that feeling for that.

994
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: Go over there, Dan, I'm tied. Talk to you when

995
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 2: we talk. You stay solid.

996
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: Peace,