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Speaker 1: smacking the Steelers late last night. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: during the show. Tom Telesco, former GM of the Chargers

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Speaker 1: we loved, what we hated from this weekend in sports,

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Speaker 1: and it was a full sports weekend. Wait to you

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Speaker 1: what Jerry Jones said about his defense tonight. I actually

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Speaker 1: agree with him. By agree with him, got a lot

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Speaker 1: to get to. World Series Game three will be on

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Speaker 1: a way tonight. Dodgers took Game two after getting stomped

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Speaker 1: in game one that wasn't a Friday night, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Obviously this is this, this becomes the swing game. You know,

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Speaker 1: we get some NFL talk about, we get some college

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Speaker 1: football talk about. Plus, this is the sports Equinox. Is

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Speaker 1: that right, Jase? Two Sports Equinox.

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Speaker 2: Thirty second of all time, thirty second sports Equinox of

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Speaker 2: all time.

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Speaker 1: And the basics of the sports Equinox are of all

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Speaker 1: of the major all the professional sports are playing all

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Speaker 1: at once, right, That that's what it is. And Jason's problem,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with him, is are we really considering soccer?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, soccer, hockey, NBA, NFL. Is there college football tonight?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Is there a college football to night?

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Speaker 1: Probably is. There's college foball like every night. But I

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Speaker 1: guess we're only considering professional.

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Speaker 2: Only professional sports. I'm willing to barely let hockey in.

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Speaker 2: I think in the nineties it was made a Major

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Speaker 2: four and barely anybody watches that sport. But soccer, that's

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Speaker 2: a reach. It's almost like when they're listing the five

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Speaker 2: things in the Sports Equinox and they get to the

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Speaker 2: MLS game. It's almost like when people say after a

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Speaker 2: couple people die that are famous. You know, they always

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Speaker 2: go in threes, and then there's always a The third

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Speaker 2: one is always a stretch. Yes, you have two like

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Speaker 2: a listers and then a guy that worked, you know,

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Speaker 1: So you're thinking soccer as a stretch. I would agree

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Speaker 1: does make sense because it's been around long enough, it's secure,

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Speaker 1: it's cure enough in itself. So we'll get to the sports.

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Speaker 1: Equinox doesn't actually matter. Are you equinox or equinox guy?

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Speaker 1: So I think, guys, we start with I mean, personally,

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Speaker 1: I think we start with Brian Kelly losing his job.

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Speaker 1: And I understand Brian Kelly has there's some things in

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Speaker 1: just don't like him. Right when he was first in

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Speaker 1: he would turn purple in the face, hard image to

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Speaker 1: Scissor incident, which is an absolute tragedy at Notre Dame,

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Speaker 1: and social media likes to have fun at Brian Kelly's expense.

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Speaker 1: But Brian Kelly gets fired, and I just there just

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Speaker 1: This is not the I mean again, you can listen

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Speaker 1: And the only times that they've had these spectacular years,

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Speaker 1: that's ever been. LSU is finding out that however, you

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Speaker 1: everyone can buy players. It's I mean this, Oklahoma, I

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Speaker 1: That's going to be the norm, not the exception. It's

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Speaker 1: It's really what it's like in this league. It's a

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Speaker 1: crazy part about it is that Brian Kelly has gone

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Speaker 1: point of ridiculousness in college football. It started this year

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Speaker 1: Kelly to LSU was a weird fit. And then you

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Speaker 1: have people go, well, he's not recruiting anymore, he's not

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Speaker 1: recruiting the same level. Yes they are, heart they recruit

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Speaker 1: the last two years the league has been okay, and

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Speaker 1: It's hard for people to adjust to the fact that

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Speaker 1: Vanderbilt is good, but Vanderbilt is actually legitimate and good.

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Speaker 1: That's because Vanderbilt no longer has the academic limitations that

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Speaker 1: I think that's what people are struggling to adjust to.

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Speaker 1: The adjustment in where Vanderbilt sits in the grand scheme

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Speaker 1: As I described to our donors, that's the Lambeau of

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Speaker 1: easy way to describe it? There? Dan Buyer a Lambeau

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Speaker 1: I mean again, you're it's it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: And here's where it's it's actually different, right, is Lambeau.

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Speaker 3: What did you love?

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Speaker 2: Get I don't want to get too far away from

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Speaker 4: I should be noted during the Alcs, while it was

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Speaker 2: I loved Yoshi Yamamato. You know, the last pitcher to

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Speaker 2: Kwaito in twenty fifteen for the Royals. You just don't

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Speaker 2: And I also want to say that maybe the highlight

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Speaker 1: Gonna add one more here, Sam before we get to

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Speaker 1: No, okay, good, Mackenzie Derham won. She won this weekend.

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Speaker 1: She's a UFC fighter. She's as strawweight. She's a strawweight.

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Speaker 2: My answer to your question is, I'm never going to

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Speaker 5: I'm hoisting it in the air. It's not And I'm

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Speaker 4: I love the music though it makes up for it

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Speaker 5: It's not the real Floyd of Roseale trophy.

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Speaker 5: It's the Christmas ornament Dan Get gave to me. The

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Speaker 4: By the way, I think, I think that those trophies

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Speaker 4: in our Christmas gift exchange here on the Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 4: Show is the best gift that I've given anyone I know.

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Speaker 4: The worst one was the book I gave Jason Stewart

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Speaker 4: because it wasn't an audio book. It was their first year.

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Speaker 4: Have you even opened a page of the book, Jason?

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Speaker 1: I read?

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Speaker 4: Oh you did, Okay, I didn't think that you did.

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Speaker 2: N I don't read it as fast it takes. It

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Speaker 2: takes me a long time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I thought you didn't. So then maybe we're higher up.

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Speaker 4: But I am. I am very pleased that Sam is

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Speaker 4: taking a great pride in the Christmas gift. These are wonderful.

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Speaker 5: They're miniatures of the of most of Iowa's rivalry trophies,

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Speaker 5: and yeah, I had got to bring in the Heartland

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Speaker 5: Trophy a few weeks ago, and now I got the

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Speaker 5: Florida ros deal.

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Speaker 1: Iowa, by the way, is living proof that nobody thinks

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Speaker 1: that the rest of the Big ten is any good,

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Speaker 1: right because here they are what six and too and

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Speaker 1: their two losses are combined by combined eight points. Iowa State,

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Speaker 1: it's got to fall apart a little bit in Indiana,

452
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Speaker 1: which is at home at a five point game, but they're unranked, unranked.

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Speaker 1: Now they got Oregon at home and then go to

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Speaker 1: USC the Michigan State at home, then to Nebraska. I

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Speaker 1: gotta went out to get to the playoff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that I don't know. I want

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Speaker 5: to see how this Oregon go game goes in two weeks.

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Speaker 4: So let's say that, yeah, yeah, yep, ye.

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Speaker 5: Gotta wait though the Waiting's get to what we hated

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Speaker 5: from the weekend, shall we, And we'll start with our

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Speaker 5: resident hater, Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 2: So there's a game in Cincinnati yesterday, and I am

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Speaker 2: in a survivor pool. For those that aren't familiar with

464
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Speaker 2: survivor pools, you pay one fee and you pick one

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Speaker 2: team each week. And you can't pick them again. So

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Speaker 2: we're into Week eight and the Bengals were primed to

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Speaker 2: be my survivor pick, right because they're not a very

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Speaker 2: good team. But you get to pick a bad team

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Speaker 2: against a much worse team, that's a great survivor pick.

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Speaker 2: On Week eight, so they were playing the Jets, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if people know this, but the Jets

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Speaker 2: had not scored one touchdown in the previous two weeks

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Speaker 2: of play. The Jets were coming off this week where

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Speaker 2: Woody Johnson said that the quarterback can't complete a pass.

475
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Speaker 2: The Bengals were up fifteen points entering the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: and so many random things happened to get to this point,

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Speaker 2: but the Jets ended up winning over the Bengals, and

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Speaker 2: thirty three percent of my pool and myself are out

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Speaker 2: for the year because the Bengals gave up five hundred

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Speaker 2: and two total yards to a team that had not

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Speaker 2: scored a touchdown in two weeks prior. They gave up

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Speaker 2: a fifteen point lead somehow in the fourth quarter to

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Speaker 2: the worst offense in football. I can't think of a

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Speaker 2: more painful way to exit a survivor pool. Brother get

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Speaker 2: beat forty eight to three, just like the Falcons yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That was like quick and painless. They were never in

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Speaker 2: that game. They weren't gonna win that game. But the

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Speaker 2: Bengals could not have put me through a worse experience.

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Speaker 2: I can't stand you, Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: That was awful.

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Speaker 1: I got one. It's pretty easy. And yes I watched,

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Speaker 1: and I've watched a bunch of times because I'm that

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Speaker 1: sick guy. But I just damn Scatabo getting hit. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I've heard people say that's that hip drop tackle.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like it was the same. He's just

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Speaker 1: a hard one, right, Like, how do you bring down

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Speaker 1: a guy like that when you're trying to tackle him

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Speaker 1: from behind? You can't horse collar him. I guess you

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Speaker 1: can grab his legs, but his legs are so powerful.

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Speaker 1: But his foot got caught onneath and he broke his

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Speaker 1: ankle and it snapped and it was nasty. But just

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Speaker 1: more the energy, the love for football, the love for

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Speaker 1: hitting people like he's he's the classic like football guy,

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Speaker 1: Like I just want to find somebody to hit him.

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Speaker 1: Not be able to play the rest of year sucks.

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Speaker 4: Just just saw a sweet from Jeff McClain covers the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: That Dom Desandro, you know security guy Dom for the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: They delivered pizza and cheesecake to Cam's Scataboo in the

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Speaker 4: hospital in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy how how well liked and respected that guy is.

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Speaker 1: I even saw Eagles fans give him a hand when

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Speaker 1: when he was being wheeled off. Right, Eagles fans who

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Speaker 1: hate everybody and they don't care. Uh, don't hate cam'scattaboo.

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Speaker 5: Pizza and cheesecake but not cheese steak?

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Speaker 4: Interesting?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Okay, what do you got there, Dan Byron?

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Speaker 4: Well this I didn't like this. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: I hated this or not, but you guys know that

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Speaker 4: I've When Arch Manning was criticized for the opening loss

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Speaker 4: to oh Hio State, I said, I'm buying all the stock,

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Speaker 4: and I'll tell you what. It hasn't gotten much better

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Speaker 4: for Arch Manning. And even this weekend, when Arch and

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Speaker 4: the Texas Longhorns are trailing Mississippi State by eighteen points

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Speaker 4: in the second half, Arch and the Longhorns come all

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Speaker 4: the way back to tie it and win it in overtime.

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Speaker 4: The only problem was that Arch got knocked out in overtime,

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Speaker 4: so we didn't throw the game winning pass, and the

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Speaker 4: game tying touchdown from Texas came on a punt return.

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Speaker 4: But we're not talking about Archie, by the way, is

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Speaker 4: in concussion protocol throwing for three hundred and forty six

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Speaker 4: yards in three touchdowns in that win over Mississippi State.

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Speaker 4: So poor arch can't even reap the rewards of a

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Speaker 4: comeback victory in what has been a pileon season for

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Speaker 4: so many.

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Speaker 2: Where do you stand now, Dan? Where do you stand?

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Speaker 4: I'm still in I will buy all of your shares, yes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just to get the listeners up to speed.

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Speaker 2: Dan was like the first person on this network anyways,

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Speaker 2: one of the first people I saw, and I consume

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Speaker 2: a lot of content who brought up the notion that

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Speaker 2: the Saints would be tanking this season to make a

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Speaker 2: play for arch Manning. Now, Dan was saying this, probably

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Speaker 2: like last season or at the end of last season.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was an interesting take at the time

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Speaker 2: that nobody had really considered. But right now, is Archie

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Speaker 2: even going to come out.

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Speaker 6: Of this note?

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Speaker 1: No, he wasn't gonna come out anyway, though.

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Speaker 4: Well, the last part of my I'm sorry, go ahead, Doug,

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say that was part of my

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Speaker 4: argument because you can declare and find out who has

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Speaker 4: the number one overall pick. So if the Saints were

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Speaker 4: did have the number one overall pick, that there would

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Speaker 4: be a decision because of Archie's ties and the whole

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Speaker 4: family's ties to the city of New Orleans and the Saints.

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Speaker 4: And I will still stand by the fact that if

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Speaker 4: arch Manning was in last year's draft, he would have

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Speaker 4: gone ahead of cam Ward and he would be a

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Speaker 4: Tennessee Titan right now, which I know is not possible

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Speaker 4: because he's not eligible for the draft, but it's just

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Speaker 4: my thought process and how we looked at Archs at

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of like Matt Barkley. Remember when Matt

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Speaker 2: Barley came back for a year, he probably would have

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Speaker 2: been the number one pick and then he like played

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Speaker 2: his way out of the first round and second round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Matt Barkley was aided by a lot of

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Speaker 4: good guys around him and him being the freshman quarterback.

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Speaker 4: We just assumed he was the next in line. So

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Speaker 4: that assumption maybe could be the case. But by the way,

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Speaker 4: arch could stay not only for next year, yeah, he

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Speaker 4: can stay in twenty twenty seven and still be at Texas,

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Speaker 4: which is something that Peyton and Eli also did in

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Speaker 4: staying longer at schools than we thought maybe they would

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Speaker 4: or could.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, And it's not about the money, like everybody

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Speaker 1: makes quarterbacks staying about the money. It's not with the

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Speaker 1: money of them. It's about being ready so that you're

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Speaker 1: ready to play right away. Yes, and again lost in

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Speaker 1: the Arch Manning thing was what a comeback? What a

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Speaker 1: comeback win? I mean, put up twenty four in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, a come back force overtime winning over in Stark, Vegas.

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Speaker 4: I I also think I just think like Arch is

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Speaker 4: a good kid. Yeah, like there's there's he he didn't

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Speaker 4: have to be. You may feel that there's oversaturation of

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Speaker 4: the Mannings, but I think the Manning family is pretty

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Speaker 4: good family overall. And maybe you know, like he had

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Speaker 4: every reason he could have every reason to be you know, yes,

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Speaker 4: and he's not yep, yep, pair fair anyone else?

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Speaker 5: I got one here, Doug, real quick, here my bad Sammy. Well, listen,

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Speaker 5: if someone showed up two and a half hours to

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Speaker 5: your home early for a party, I think you'd be

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Speaker 5: I'd be miffed personally. I first noticed one of these work.

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Speaker 5: What's that put in work?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I just just like, guess, you're in my hair though

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Speaker 5: I just speak, I have to entertain you. Yeah, you

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Speaker 5: can put them to work, I guess, But then you

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Speaker 5: worry about, you know, if they're screwing something up. But

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Speaker 5: I first noticed one of these on October two wealth

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Speaker 5: and since then there's been a proliferation of Christmas theme

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Speaker 5: commercials in October. I don't remember growing up with I

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Speaker 5: celebrated my birthday a week from last Sunday on the nineteenth.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember there ever being Christmas theme commercials in

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Speaker 5: the month of October. If we were in the middle

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Speaker 5: of April and people started saying, Hey, let's get ready

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Speaker 5: for Fourth of July right now, I'd be like, what

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Speaker 5: are you talking about. That's two and a half months away.

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Speaker 5: I just I don't get. This is a recent phenomenon.

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Speaker 5: I love Christmas, and I love the holiday season. There's

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Speaker 5: a time and a place to celebrate these and kind

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Speaker 5: of forcing like sleigh bells and Christmas lights and stuff

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Speaker 5: down your throat for two and a half months. It

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Speaker 5: just really it really wears on me, actually kind of

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Speaker 5: makes me resent the holiday as a whole. So to

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Speaker 5: the people that are to the companies that are starting, listen,

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Speaker 5: you can sell whatever you want your store, but you're

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Speaker 5: starting the Christmas Them's commercials in early to mid October

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Speaker 5: and we have to endure months of this.

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Speaker 4: I hate it.

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Speaker 5: I'm out on that stuff. I do not like it.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, by the way, Jay Stu, I know you

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Speaker 1: love this this date in history in nineteen oh four.

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Speaker 1: New York Subway launch launches nineteen oh four.

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Speaker 5: It's like, did they have like the cold cut combo

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Speaker 5: or of the foot long meetball which is like eighteen dollars?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 1: Is it eighteen dollars? How much is it?

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Speaker 5: No, it's it's like twelve bucks. I mean it's definitely

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Speaker 5: not five dollars anymore. Fullime over ten.

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Speaker 1: Dollars and that is eleven eight.

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Let's

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Speaker 1: check in for our weekly visit with our own GM here.

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Speaker 1: Tom to LESCo was a gentle manager of the Chargers

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Speaker 1: for eleven years, going back to San Diego all the

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Speaker 1: way through the move to Los Angeles. Of course, last

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Speaker 1: year was the GM of the Las Vegas Raiders. He

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Speaker 1: joins us every week here on the Doug Gottlieb Show

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Let me start with the Jets, okay,

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Speaker 1: because if you go back to last week, their owner

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Speaker 1: comes out and says, hey, if we could just complete

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Speaker 1: a pass right clearly calling out Justin Fields. And then

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is not particularly good in the first half,

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Speaker 1: and all seems lost, and then a funny thing happens.

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Speaker 1: Brice Hall. Uh yeah, Brice Hall ends up having a

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Speaker 1: spectacular second half and Justin Fields has a good second

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Speaker 1: half and they win their first game of the season. Tommy,

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Speaker 1: how do you how do you view Justin Fields here

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Speaker 1: with his third team in three years, just four years

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Speaker 1: in the NFL?

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Speaker 6: Well, look, I think he is what he is and

655
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Speaker 6: if just for an office knew what they're getting when

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Speaker 6: they signed him. He's a dynamic athlete. He gets a

657
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Speaker 6: strong arm, and he's a really good leader in the

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Speaker 6: locker room. He's a good leader as a quarterback. He

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Speaker 6: has those skills. It's the pocket passing part of that,

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Speaker 6: the processing in the pocket that the decision making. It

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Speaker 6: hasn't been great, and it's it's hard at this point

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Speaker 6: of his career to keep in proving at that. Usually

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Speaker 6: at this point either have that or you don't. But

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Speaker 6: what I like, I mean, obviously you don't like those

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Speaker 6: comments that come from the owner last week. But it

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Speaker 6: does give the opportunity for the GM or the head

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Speaker 6: coach quite at GM in this this case, to sit

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Speaker 6: down with Justin Field and say, hey, look, I believe

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Speaker 6: in you. I signed you no matter what people think

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Speaker 6: inside or outside the building. It's a change that they

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Speaker 6: kind of get behind the player. I show your belief

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Speaker 6: in him, because, like I said, they knew what they

673
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Speaker 6: were getting when they signed them. So yeah, sorry, they

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Speaker 6: got Brice Hall. Bries hauled the ball a lot more.

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Speaker 6: He's a big time running back. And you saw the

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Speaker 6: team kind of rally around the quarterback. And obviously it

677
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Speaker 6: helped that the Bengals defense just really struggled in the

678
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Speaker 6: second half that they couldn't get any stops. But you know,

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Speaker 6: it does show you know this this is a people

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Speaker 6: business and as a GM or head coach, to get

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Speaker 6: behind your quarterback. Look, keep your starter, you sign them

682
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Speaker 6: for a reason. You know, he's not perfect, but he

683
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Speaker 6: can't help you win some games, and I think this

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Speaker 6: game a chance to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: the uh, what's the difference in the injury report with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens and say the Jets, Right, because Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 1: was playing, Koy didn't want to name a starter, and

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Speaker 1: he said, it's just because I don't want to. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't because of actual injury. Right. Even though Torod Taylor

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Speaker 1: was coming off the injured list for the Ravens, we

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Speaker 1: thought Lamar Jackson was going to start and then he

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Speaker 1: was pulled at the last second. From as a guy

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Speaker 1: who's been in this league for thirty years, what's all

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Speaker 1: this mean?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, with the Jets, their injury report with Torod Taylor

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Speaker 6: was accurate, and you don't have to name a start

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Speaker 6: or but you do have to be accurate with your

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Speaker 6: injury report in terms of what the injury is, what

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Speaker 6: his practice status was, and then at the end of

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Speaker 6: the week, what his gain status is. So this is

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Speaker 6: all about competitive equity and sports betting, probably more sports

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Speaker 6: betting than anything else, but there is a competitive equity

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Speaker 6: to it because there's an advantage gained if you don't

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Speaker 6: know who's playing. I mean, preparing for Lamar Jackson is

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Speaker 6: going to be a lot different than preparing for Cooper

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Speaker 6: Rusher or Tyler Huntley. So it's a big difference, but

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Speaker 6: brilliant reality. It's about sports betting. That's why the injury

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Speaker 6: reports started way back in probably the forties and fifties.

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Speaker 6: But it's so important right now because as you saw

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Speaker 6: with Lamar when his status changed, I mean the line

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Speaker 6: moved like six points or five and a half six points,

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Speaker 6: which is which is massive. So it's the responsibility of

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Speaker 6: the GM and or the head coach, not the head trainer,

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Speaker 6: and not not your PR director to be very accurate

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Speaker 6: with those reports. And we all know the rules. The

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Speaker 6: league is very stringent on it, and it just surprises

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Speaker 6: me for a front office that's been there as long

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Speaker 6: as they have that they wouldn't know the rule. So

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Speaker 6: because it's our job to know the rule, and like

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Speaker 6: for me for eleven years, like I did every single

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Speaker 6: every single injury report Wednesday Thursday for AUS and the

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Speaker 6: game status, I just felt like if very important, if

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Speaker 6: there's any mistakes, it'll come from me. But in that process.

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Speaker 6: You talk to the trainers, you talk to doctors, you

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Speaker 6: talk to the head coach, you watch practice, sometimes I

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Speaker 6: even talk to player. You do the injury report and

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Speaker 6: make sure it's accurate. So I would expect in this

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Speaker 6: case like there's gonna be some significant finds the club finy,

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Speaker 6: some finds to the head coach and or GM just

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Speaker 6: to show everybody the hey, this is important. It has

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Speaker 6: to be taken seriously because you know, especially the way

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Speaker 6: that the sports betting is right now.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. That's the voice of Tom Telesco, former gentleal

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Speaker 1: manager of the Chargers and the Raiders. He joins us

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Speaker 1: for a weekly visit here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: Scat about was having yet another impactful game. Then he

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Speaker 1: breaks his ankle. Obviously, you know you're worried about the

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Speaker 1: momentum where the Giants is just such momentum carried by

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Speaker 1: those two young players. But player wise, how do you

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Speaker 1: evaluate what a guy Dad's going to look like in

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Speaker 1: the future. When he wasn't the most explosive, he was

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Speaker 1: just incredibly physical, and you got to deal with the

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Speaker 1: fact that there's going to be a rehabilitation process when

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Speaker 1: that injury happens. How do you evaluate Cam Scattabo as

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Speaker 1: a GM.

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Speaker 6: Well, you'll definitely want to see I don't know exactly

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Speaker 6: what the injury is yet and what damage was inside

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Speaker 6: his ankle. Most often he will come back at one

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Speaker 6: hundred percent if it was an ankle dislocation. I mean,

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Speaker 6: obviously he's going to be out for the year, but

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Speaker 6: he should be going to be back at one hundred

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Speaker 6: percent next year. Yeah, he's obviously a powerful, strong, physical

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Speaker 6: running back, but he also has and I hate to

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Speaker 6: use the word deceptive, but he has some lateral quickness.

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Speaker 6: He has some bursts in the hole. Does he have

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Speaker 6: the elite long speed down the field. No, he doesn't

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Speaker 6: quite have that, but he's shown even in high school.

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Speaker 6: If you used to see his high school highlights out

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Speaker 6: here in California, they're amazing. But even in college and

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Speaker 6: at the pro level, he still has some foot quickness

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Speaker 6: to make some people miss, and then he has the

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Speaker 6: body controlling the balance just to spin and turn and

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Speaker 6: get yards after contact. Yeah, you're gonna look really hard

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Speaker 6: to talk with your doctors about exactly what happened that

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Speaker 6: that is an injury that doesn't happen. It's not a

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Speaker 6: common injury, but it does happen.

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Speaker 4: He should be.

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Speaker 6: Back two hundred percent next year, that's the hope. He

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Speaker 6: brings so much choice and energy to that offense. Now

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Speaker 6: they're gonna have to pair him, you know, with another

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Speaker 6: back of a different style, and they have it a

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Speaker 6: little bit right now with with Singletary and Tarrow and Tracy,

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Speaker 6: but he's gonna be a bell cop to them moving forward.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: Man, it's it's hard to understand. Their highs are high,

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Speaker 6: their lows are so low, and there's just no consistency

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Speaker 6: level with that. Now. Yesterday with with Kirk Cousins, obvious

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Speaker 6: the starter was out, he didn't have a strong game,

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Speaker 6: But that has just been so inconsistent, the ups and downs.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they beat Buffalo by two scorers and then

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Speaker 6: lose the forty nine ers team that's just really dined

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Speaker 6: up by two scores. So it's just been up and down.

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Speaker 6: Lots of the Panthers by thirty to beat the Vikings

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Speaker 6: by two or three scores. So there's got to be

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Speaker 6: consistency level there. They have a lot of tools on offense.

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Speaker 6: I understand yesterday Drake London was out and Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 6: was a quarterback, but they're hard team to figure out

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Speaker 6: right now. Now, the positive is, you know, their division

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Speaker 6: other than Tampa is weak, so they still have a

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Speaker 6: really good chance to move up and hopefully get a

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Speaker 6: wild card because they have talent on offense and defense

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Speaker 6: has a little bit inconsistent. But they've been a probably

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Speaker 6: the hardest team to figure out this season.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about the Green Bay Packers? Are they the

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Speaker 1: first half or the second half? Packers?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm always looking at the full game and they're

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Speaker 6: a sixty minute team, and watching yesterday, I thought it

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Speaker 6: was just so impressive. You know, Pittsburgh is known to

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Speaker 6: bring a lot of pressure, a lot of blitzes, and

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Speaker 6: Love just just tore them up. I mean, his poison

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Speaker 6: a pocket, he had answers, and that la Floor had

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Speaker 6: answers for everything that the Steelers threw at him, and

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Speaker 6: he just tore up their blitzes. And they got a

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Speaker 6: great spark from the Emmanuel Wilson in the second half.

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Speaker 6: They can't run tard at two hundred and twenty five pounds.

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Speaker 6: He has some quickness of some bursts, but really physical player.

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Speaker 6: But you know, you get to a sixty minute game

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Speaker 6: Green Bays that the defenses gets going, they can rush

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Speaker 6: the passer Pittsburgh offensive line if you can get them

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Speaker 6: in a straight drop back game, which will happen if

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Speaker 6: you're down, and Pittsburg was down in the second half,

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Speaker 6: you make them pass protect a true pass protectors. That's

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Speaker 6: not their strength. And the strength of Green Bays defense

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Speaker 6: is getting after the passers. So you saw that show

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Speaker 6: up last night. The once the Packers got the lead,

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Speaker 6: you can kind of see how the defense can kind

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Speaker 6: of turn it over from there. But I was just

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Speaker 6: really impressed with with with Love last night. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he just looks so poised, so effortless in the pocket,

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Speaker 6: wasn't panicked with the pressure and playoffs standing.

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Speaker 1: Wells played a night against Commanders. They have won four

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Speaker 1: to the last five games. What do they figure it out?

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Speaker 6: You know a lot of it's just that receiver. Obviously

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Speaker 6: getting getting right back is helpful. It seems like every

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Speaker 6: year Andy Reid's despagnolo. You know, the year may not

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Speaker 6: start off exactly as anticipated, and then they kind of

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Speaker 6: figure things out, They fix things on their run. And

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Speaker 6: this year's been no different. The Chiefs offense last couple

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Speaker 6: of weeks it looked like the old Chiefs offense, and

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Speaker 6: and but it's sometimes it takes a little while to

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Speaker 6: get there, but they've they've kind of picked it up.

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Speaker 6: But the defense is the one. Their defense has been

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Speaker 6: the one that's really been the major part of their

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Speaker 6: team that the last couple of years. And the defense

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Speaker 6: is playing a lot better right now than they did.

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Speaker 6: They even in the opening game against the Chargers, you

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Speaker 6: don't see as many any many receivers running free in

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Speaker 6: the secondary. They've got power pass rushers up front, and

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Speaker 6: Stagnola's outstanding with his schemes. So the fact that the

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Speaker 6: defense is playing better and then the offense is trying

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Speaker 6: to get some weapons back, I think that's been the

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Speaker 6: biggest step.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting. The Commanders team is

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Speaker 1: kind of sort of falling apart. Tom Telesco is our

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Speaker 1: guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Let's look ahead because this was a weird week, right,

849
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Speaker 1: Six teams on a buy. That's that's a lot. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot. Baltimore's trying to save their season against the

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Speaker 1: Miami team that just went how do you handle the

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Speaker 1: Miami thing right? Because tool was good yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was really good, but it's been such a mess previously.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Miami and how you handle that.

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Speaker 6: Look the Miami offense early in the year, they were

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Speaker 6: doing some good things. They were converting our third Dallas

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Speaker 6: going in the red zone. We've seen to a play

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Speaker 6: at a high level. It just hasn't been this year,

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Speaker 6: but we've seen him play at a high level when

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Speaker 6: when they really get in rhythm, when you can anticipate

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Speaker 6: get the ball out. Not having Tyreek Hill is a

862
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 6: big deal right now. But the biggest issue for the

863
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 6: Dolphins has nothing to do with Dolphense is all about

864
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 6: the defense. They just can't stop anybody and that's been

865
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Speaker 6: a problem all year, with a bit of a problem

866
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Speaker 6: last year, and that's gonna be hard thing to fix

867
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Speaker 6: during the season because they just don't have the talent

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Speaker 6: on that side of the ball. So you're you're totally

869
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Speaker 6: relying on the offense to score enough points, which they

870
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Speaker 6: did yesterday. But look their offense with with with McDaniel

871
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Speaker 6: head coach, they're gonna figure out ways to move the ball,

872
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Speaker 6: but they just can't get stops on defense. And I

873
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Speaker 6: just don't see that changing right now.

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Speaker 1: No, No, they can't, and it's bad. And he's an

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Speaker 1: offensive coach, and it just feels like they've lost the defense.

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Speaker 6: They had Big Fangio there a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 6: and you know, Vick was the coordinator that defense. For

878
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Speaker 6: whatever reason, it didn't work out. It goes to Philadelphia,

879
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 6: and Philadelphia's back to where they've been on defense. But

880
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 6: I'm not pitting the doll on the defensive coordinator. But

881
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 6: they've made a lot of changes on defense personnel wise.

882
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 6: They let some homegrown talent out the door, they brought

883
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 6: in some free agents, they made some trades, but they

884
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 6: just hasn't had the continuity on defense to play well.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio Real Quick.

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Speaker 1: Uh uh uh So the Bill the Bills have the

887
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Speaker 1: Chiefs coming up next, and they finally played well, but

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Speaker 1: Ed Oliver tore his bicep. I think he's out for

889
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Speaker 1: the out for the year. Uh what does that mean

890
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Speaker 1: for the Bills defense, which had been struggling anyway.

891
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a very good interior pass rusher. He's extremely quick,

892
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Speaker 6: and explosive inside, So they're gonna miss him. Typically with

893
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Speaker 6: that injury, they could possibly get him back for the playoffs,

894
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Speaker 6: depending on a couple of things. I wouldn't think I

895
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Speaker 6: would think he would be out for the regular season,

896
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Speaker 6: but hopefully they can leave the door open for the

897
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Speaker 6: playoffs and hopefully get him back. But that's been the

898
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 6: Bill's achilles field and they put a lot of effort

899
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Speaker 6: in the off season into upgrading the defensive line just

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Speaker 6: with depth, and just hasn't quite come together yet. I

901
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Speaker 6: thought they did a pretty good job yesterday against against

902
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Speaker 6: the Panthers. The Pentis have two extra running backs with

903
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Speaker 6: with Hubard and Rico Dadel and they kind of held

904
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Speaker 6: them in check. Now that helps obviously when you get

905
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Speaker 6: the lead that they had, I mean, the team isn't

906
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Speaker 6: gonna run as much, So that could be the answer

907
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Speaker 6: for the Bills is you just try and get the

908
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Speaker 6: lead as quickly as possible, and that would just basically

909
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Speaker 6: shut down the opponent's running game because he was not

910
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Speaker 6: gonna run the ball as much, and you can kind

911
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Speaker 6: of get into your just rush the passer mode. And

912
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Speaker 6: I know Joey Bosa had a good game yesterday, which

913
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Speaker 6: is always great to see. I love Joey as I

914
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Speaker 6: had him with the Chargers. But yeah, but the Ed

915
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Speaker 6: Oliver thing is it's gonna hurt him a little bit.

916
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Speaker 6: I mean, he's a little bit of an inconsistent player,

917
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Speaker 6: but his flashes are very high and he can really

918
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Speaker 6: rush the passer and he can chase things down with

919
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 6: range inside the tackle box. So but you know, this

920
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 6: is a really an offensive team. They're gonna have to

921
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Speaker 6: keep relying on that.

922
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Speaker 1: You also watch a ton of of on the college

923
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Speaker 1: scene quarterback wise, Gosh, I gotta tell you, like, is

924
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Speaker 1: Mendoza the guy? Is he the guy that would go

925
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Speaker 1: number one overall? Like when you're evaluating these quarterbacks of

926
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Speaker 1: what you've seen, who's been the most impressive.

927
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Speaker 6: Well, I haven't gotten into the details of it yet.

928
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Speaker 6: I have seen Mendoza. I thought he flashed them things

929
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Speaker 6: when he was at Cali, looked like an interesting player there.

930
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Speaker 6: I didn't study him, but just by seeing my TV

931
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Speaker 6: and he goes to Indiana, he's kind of showed a

932
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Speaker 6: lot of those same traits. I don't know if there

933
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Speaker 6: is a guy yet. And usually at this point, as

934
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Speaker 6: you get towards Halloween, you know that the top win

935
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Speaker 6: or two guys kind of just jump out and really

936
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Speaker 6: haven't seen that so far with this group. So we

937
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Speaker 6: shall see. I mean it's hard when we're a team

938
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Speaker 6: that needs a quarterback. Sometimes you start inflating some of

939
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Speaker 6: these players' values, and this could be the year that

940
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Speaker 6: it happens more so than ever. But he has some

941
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Speaker 6: traits as a pocket passer. He makes pretty quick decisions

942
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Speaker 6: get the ball out. He's athletic enough, you know, I

943
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Speaker 6: don't think he's gonna be a big time runner in

944
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Speaker 6: the league, but enough to get to Gray to where

945
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Speaker 6: he needs to go. But uh, there just hasn't been

946
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Speaker 6: that one quarterback that just jumped up and really jumped

947
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Speaker 6: out kind of you cam Ward at this point last year,

948
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Speaker 6: you could tell the skills that he had, he just

949
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Speaker 6: jumped off the screen, And there just hasn't been quite

950
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Speaker 6: anybody like that so far yet this year.

951
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Speaker 1: How much of cam ward struggles you give you pause

952
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Speaker 1: over what he looks like long term?

953
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Speaker 6: You know, it doesn't give me a lot of pause.

954
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Speaker 6: I think coming into the season, you knew they were

955
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Speaker 6: going to be ups and downs. He's the young rookie

956
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Speaker 6: quarterback who just doesn't have enough talent around him. Yet

957
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Speaker 6: offensive line is a strong enough. Yet they don't nearly

958
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Speaker 6: have enough weapons at receiver. I like Taj Spears at

959
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Speaker 6: running back, but they just don't have a lot there yet.

960
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Speaker 6: So the infrastructure isn't good enough. And then now you

961
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Speaker 6: take out its head coach and coordinator and now they're

962
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Speaker 6: all on transition. So I'm not so much worried about

963
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Speaker 6: it yet, but there's just a lot of work there

964
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Speaker 6: to do. I mean, when you have that many regime

965
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Speaker 6: changes and that many GM and head coaching changes, philosophy

966
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Speaker 6: has changed, investments and different players change, so they have

967
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Speaker 6: to get consistent and kind of and just start building

968
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Speaker 6: this and it's going to take some time. So yeah,

969
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Speaker 6: I'm not worried yet, you know, but it's just going

970
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Speaker 6: to take some work.

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Speaker 1: Tell me the best man, Love having you on the show.

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Speaker 1: Incredible insight from a guy who spend this entire professional

973
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Speaker 1: life in the league, appreciates being our guest on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Awesome Thanks Doreg. Take care