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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody at the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate you all joining us. My

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Speaker 1: oh my, do we have a lot to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about. We've got the Biden White House in disarray.

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Speaker 1: Will dive into that together in just a moment here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hearing the excuses and the explanations for what's

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Speaker 1: going on is honestly fascinating because it doesn't even make sense.

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Speaker 1: And we'll tell you what does make sense. We've got that.

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Speaker 1: We've also got Justin Trudeau, the really the great in

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Speaker 1: the pantheon of lib beta males. I think Justin Trudeau

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Speaker 1: is in his own, his own category, He has his

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Speaker 1: own pedestal to stand on. But Justin Trudeau is talent

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Speaker 1: Canadians that their guns have got to go in a

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Speaker 1: whole range of categories. Or rather, there's a freeze on

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Speaker 1: handgun sales plus all long guns five five round capacity

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Speaker 1: in the magazine. That's a new thing that he's instituting.

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Speaker 1: There our Democrats looking at this and thinking how do

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Speaker 1: we make it happen? Here? You know they are. We'll

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Speaker 1: discuss that with you, and there's also of course more

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Speaker 1: on the baby formulas shortage continues despite the Bide administration

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Speaker 1: recognizing there's an issue here on the DOJ is going

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Speaker 1: to be investigating the response to Uvalde, which I know

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Speaker 1: Clay talked to you about a bit more in detail

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Speaker 1: on Friday, so we'll be discussing that. But we just

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Speaker 1: got some breaking news that is discouraging but not surprising,

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Speaker 1: not surprising at all, and it's in fact really worth

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Speaker 1: us discussing here for a second that the lawyer for

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Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton campaign, Michael Sussman, who was I mean

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Speaker 1: pretty clearly lied to the FBI to get the Russia

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Speaker 1: collusion thing going. The verdict just came down and he

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Speaker 1: was found not guilty. So it turns out. I just

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Speaker 1: want to say to everybody this should not surprise you.

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Speaker 1: This is why I don't believe Hunter Biden is going

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Speaker 1: to be criminally charged, although there are some rumblings about

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Speaker 1: that maybe happening. So Clay and I can continue to

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Speaker 1: have that discussion here. Clay, Look, you know he's there's

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Speaker 1: the deep state in the judiciary. This guy clearly misrepresented

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Speaker 1: in a critical way his intentions and the basis for

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Speaker 1: the Russia collusion a lot. But this just came down, folks.

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Speaker 1: This as we came on air. The verdict came down

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Speaker 1: not guilty Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman, who got

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Speaker 1: the FBI and the media all fired up on the

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Speaker 1: Russia collusion. Lie Clay, How does this happen? I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be. First of all, the jury made

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Speaker 1: this decision right. So in general, the beyond a reasonable

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Speaker 1: doubt standard is a difficult one to reach, and my

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Speaker 1: proposition is that juries tend to get things right. I

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Speaker 1: why I think it was complicated. My understanding is there

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Speaker 1: was a text message that basically let it be known

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Speaker 1: that Michael Sussman was lying to the FBI, But then

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Speaker 1: the notes that existed from the actual meeting that he

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Speaker 1: had with the FBI was more complicated. And again, the

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Speaker 1: standard of beyond a reasonable doubt for a criminal prosecution

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Speaker 1: is a high one. Here's what I would say is significant. Regardless,

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of facts that came out of

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Speaker 1: this case under oath that are very, very significant. Leaving

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Speaker 1: aside Michael Sussman's role here, First of all, Robbie Mook,

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Speaker 1: who was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, directly testified under oath

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Speaker 1: that Hillary okaide this leak of information to the FBI,

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Speaker 1: meaning her fingerprints are all over Russia collusion. Under oath

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Speaker 1: and testimony in this case, what will be interesting to

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Speaker 1: York Times is of the world. We're basically pretending this

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Speaker 1: case wasn't going on. They weren't covering it on a

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Speaker 1: day to day basis, They were not maniacally focused on it.

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Speaker 1: Compare it, say, to the way that they covered January sixth.

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Speaker 1: Every little nuance of January sixth this front page news.

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Speaker 1: page news. What I will be curious about from a

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Speaker 1: narrative perspective is whether this as trumpeted as evidence that

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and her campaign did nothing wrong right, because

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Speaker 1: there is a difference between what they did, which was

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Speaker 1: clearly pollute and create the Russia Russia collusion narrative, and

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Speaker 1: when he said that they were spying and all these things.

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Speaker 1: I think the guilty verdict will receive far more attention

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Speaker 1: It will be amusing Clay to watch as all of

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Speaker 1: for the first time tomorrow. That's one piece of this.

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Speaker 1: But going back to the beginning of the Russia collusion,

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Speaker 1: being intellectually honest about this from the start play. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And one thing I can tell you is that so

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Speaker 1: much of government power, within the bureaucracy, within the federal

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Speaker 1: agencies is based upon good faith. That the people that

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Speaker 1: the people that are pulling your bank records, pulling your

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Speaker 1: phone records, they're doing so in good faith. And part

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Speaker 1: of good faith is what you believe to be credible. Right,

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Speaker 1: So if somebody, if somebody comes in, let's say, and there,

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Speaker 1: and you say, you know what, Fine, we're gonna give

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Speaker 1: will be fired because that person's being an idiot. Right,

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Speaker 1: you need to do verification. There has to be good

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Speaker 1: faith in that process. And with the Hillary Clinton Russia

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Speaker 1: that whether it's Komy or Sussman or world. Sussman was

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Speaker 1: Hillary's campaign helped to spread Russia collusion. The other thing

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Speaker 1: But this is what almost everybody in the Trump Ambateur,

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Speaker 1: This was used the special counsel, the Mueller probe investigation,

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Speaker 1: For all four years. I know. I mean, you had

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Speaker 1: pumping the gas or set you know, the minivan mom

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Speaker 1: taking the kids to school, being obligated and responsible for

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Speaker 1: all these trips all over a city. And here's what

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's taken note of the fact that suburban women

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Speaker 1: are turning on him, which is a nightmare. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the only thing scarier for Democrats than that is losses

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Speaker 1: in the African American community politically, right, if they start

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Speaker 1: seeing that drop down dramatically, then they know it's all

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Speaker 1: over for them. But suburban women are very high on

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Speaker 1: their list. Of key constituencies here. And it's interesting, Clay,

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Speaker 1: because the suburban men are turning on Biden. Biden is

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Speaker 1: turning on his own staff. He's upset that they are

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Speaker 1: having to do clean up on Aisle Biden every five minutes.

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Speaker 1: So his claim is apparently to his staff, stop contradicting

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Speaker 1: what I say. I'm amtrak Joe, and I'm and meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: some of us are sitting here, no, no, Joe. They're

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Speaker 1: trying to prevent like a nucle your war from breaking

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Speaker 1: out because you say something stupid about Russia or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And for the moms, they're looking at this all clan

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Speaker 1: and they're saying, what am I getting in this bargain

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Speaker 1: of the Biden regime? Price of gas, price of food

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Speaker 1: way up, harder to pay my mortgage. And the Democrats

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Speaker 1: and their media are all in on drag Queen Story

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Speaker 1: It's not working out so well for them. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, and reading that NBC article, Buck, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe that it's not getting more attention. You are

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Speaker 1: the president of the United States. Is he not signing

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Speaker 1: off on the official statements that are being made by

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Speaker 1: the White House, because it specifically talks about that speech

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Speaker 1: where he says go get him at the end, or sorry,

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Speaker 1: we're not the state of the Union, but he said

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Speaker 1: something like my god, he's got to go, or some

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Speaker 1: whatever he's said at the end of the speech about

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Speaker 1: Putin and the Ukraine situation. The White House puts out

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Speaker 1: a statement saying, you know, clut trying to clean up

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Speaker 1: what he has said. Multiple times they've on this is

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Speaker 1: Biden so out of commission in the White House that

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Speaker 1: they are putting out statements from the White House that

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Speaker 1: he's not even seen. Because think about how I think

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Speaker 1: the answer. Think about it. If you were president or

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Speaker 1: if I were president, Heck Buck, if the Clay and

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Speaker 1: Buck Show put out an official statement that neither you

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Speaker 1: nor I saw regarding something that we said, imagine how

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Speaker 1: furious we would be on this radio show. Let's pretend

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Speaker 1: that Clay and Buck has a spokesperson. You or I

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Speaker 1: say something on the show, and then later on there's

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Speaker 1: a media quote from Clay and Buck and we're like,

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Speaker 1: did you did you see that quote? Did you sign

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Speaker 1: off on that? The fact that Biden is even able

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Speaker 1: to have a White House that disrespects him to such

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Speaker 1: a degree that he's not even signing off on official

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Speaker 1: White House statements about his own comments. Is I mean,

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Speaker 1: it raises the question of who the actual president is.

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Speaker 1: I think there's also probably a scramble going on behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes right now to get the Democrat playbook here

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Speaker 1: is going to be in terms of personnel, white House staffing,

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Speaker 1: who can we bring in from the Obama administration? It

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Speaker 1: take senior rules. Now, there's already talk of Susan Rice

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Speaker 1: possibly being chief of staff. They're gonna try and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a black woman. And she's just cut to

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Speaker 1: the noise. It's gonna be a black woman buck because

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is going to say this is the first

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Speaker 1: black woman to ever be a chief of staff and

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Speaker 1: that identity politics arena is the only thing he knows

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Speaker 1: how to do at this point. And here's the problem

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Speaker 1: with just going back to the Obama administration personnel. Shall

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Speaker 1: we say your point about the identity politics, that's the

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Speaker 1: only thing he's This is the Arly victories, the Whey

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Speaker 1: Can Twain's a white guy. He's stepping down. Now. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put the first ever black woman in is the

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Speaker 1: chief of staff. This is a huge deal, Like he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have any regard for talent. It's all about optics.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure at this stage that some of

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Speaker 1: the bigger names, you know, I don't know if some

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Speaker 1: of the some of the former Obama personnel, Obama administration

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Speaker 1: personnel who have now you know, gotten all happy with

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Speaker 1: the book deals and the contributorships and sitting on the

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Speaker 1: boards of companies you want to go join think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna join this after a mid term wipeout, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to join this administration. I gotta say, that's

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough duty. Joy the administration of the

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Speaker 1: least popular president in living memory, who's in clear cognitive decline,

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Speaker 1: and now he shouting about how his staff is having

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Speaker 1: to clean up his mess because he'd rather just be

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Speaker 1: a mess. That's a that's a tough job post. It's

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Speaker 1: it's like reverse Titanic Buck. It's going from the lifeboat

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Speaker 1: and deciding to get on the Titanic. Like you're in

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Speaker 1: the ocean on the lifeboat. Everything's great, and you're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: look at that big Titanic that's already sinking. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to try to get on the sinking ship and

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Speaker 1: try to make it sink slower because that's a Remember,

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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have a House that is Republican and

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are gonna lose control there, and you probably

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Speaker 1: are gonna lose the Senate too. In fact, when we

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Speaker 1: come back, buck new numbers that are out state by

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Speaker 1: state approval ratings. I'm going to send you this link.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if you've seen it. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it. As as bad as it is nationwide,

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Speaker 1: it's actually worse in the places that are going to

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Speaker 1: be deciding control of Congress. You have in sports? Is

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Speaker 1: there actually ever really a mercy rule? You would know?

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Speaker 1: Is there is that? Is that just a thing that

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Speaker 1: we talk about in the schoolyard, like has there ever

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Speaker 1: been an existant what it exists? In little league? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Exactly we at this coming election, Clay, has to be

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Speaker 1: We'll come back here in a second, folks. We got

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Speaker 1: for members only. Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton,

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Speaker 1: Joe appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Sivi

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Speaker 1: QS has a brand new poll out just came out.

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Speaker 1: Buck approver or disprove of Joe Biden as President new Low.

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Speaker 1: I believe this is an all time low for Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: at least all time that I have seen. Thirty five

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Speaker 1: percent approval rate, fifty five percent disapproval. The things that

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Speaker 1: are interesting the most about this Buck to me at least,

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Speaker 1: are he is in so much trouble, meaning Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: in the states that are going to potentially be deciding

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Speaker 1: this election, in particular the states in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: that they have to be looking at. Here is the

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Speaker 1: approval rating for Joe Biden right now in Arizona, Hello Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: We're number one in your market, thirty two percent approval rating. Nevada, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, number one there, thirty three percent approval rating.

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Speaker 1: And how about Georgia, Buck, where you have got Reverend

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Speaker 1: Raphael Warnock trying to hang on against Hershall Walker. We

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about this primary. Joe Biden has a

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Speaker 1: thirty one percent approval rating. Thirty one percent approval rating

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Speaker 1: in Georgia. You talk about Georgia Arizona, you start to

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Speaker 1: look at all these states that are going to decide

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, I don't see any way that you

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Speaker 1: can elevate Biden to the point where he is competitive,

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Speaker 1: but even worse. All these Senate seats, the toss ups,

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Speaker 1: This is an unmitigated disaster for Joe Biden that is

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Speaker 1: only getting worse. And the data one other data point

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to hit you with, what is Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's approval rating for independent voters? Buck twenty three percent

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Speaker 1: approval for independent voters right now? Even women talking about

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Speaker 1: losing space with suburban women, women are usually a strength

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Speaker 1: of the Democrat party forty percent approval, forty eight percent

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Speaker 1: disapproval for and men thirty percent approval. Biden's losing on

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Speaker 1: every front right now. If you look at the Cook

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Speaker 1: Political Report, there are there are congressional seats where Biden

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Speaker 1: one by double digits upwards of sometimes fifteen, maybe even

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Speaker 1: maybe even seventeen eighteen points in danger of losing this

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Speaker 1: time around, which is a huge swing, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you start when you're talking about a district that

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Speaker 1: Biden one by fifteen points, by almost twenty points, that

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Speaker 1: that could go in the other direction. But you look

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Speaker 1: at it and you see that there's also about a

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Speaker 1: seventy I think it's three quarters of the country thinks

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Speaker 1: we're on the wrong track. Now, obviously that includes a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of Democrats, but for a fair number of

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Speaker 1: those Democrats, it's it's not Biden's fault. It's a really

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Speaker 1: hard job. The Republicans are really mean, they stand in

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Speaker 1: the way, and we all know that's just self justifying nonsense, right,

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Speaker 1: but at least at least they're aware of the fact

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Speaker 1: this is not the way things are supposed to be going.

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Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have record high homicides in all

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Speaker 1: basically of the top twenty five American cities by population.

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Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have the worst inflation in forty years.

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Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have seventy percent of baby formula

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Speaker 1: out of stock, you know, a war raging in Europe.

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Speaker 1: Still that Biden says things that makes everyone go, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, you don't hit the deck. What is he doing?

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Speaker 1: This is not good, Clay, even the Democrats, No, it's

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Speaker 1: not good. And by the way, even for black voters

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Speaker 1: in this sixty five percent approval, you may say, well,

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Speaker 1: that's high. Obama was ninety five, right, Like, basically, every

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Speaker 1: Black voter was going to have Obama's back no matter what.

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Speaker 1: When a Democrat president is down to sixty five percent

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Speaker 1: approval in black voters. I mean, if twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: black voters voted Republican, the Democrat party collapses. It doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: And so these numbers have to be setting off alarm bell,

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Speaker 1: which is why the big discussion not only is about

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the midterms, it's really buck

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Speaker 1: about when will Joe Biden announce whether he's going to

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Speaker 1: run for reelection? And I'm laughing because I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: a weaker incumbent in any of our lives than what

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is likely to be facing if he decides

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Speaker 1: to run. Only the mercy rule is acceptable, Clay, the

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Speaker 1: mercy rule. I want kids in the dugout crying on

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Speaker 1: the Democrat side. Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton on the

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Speaker 1: front lines of truth,