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Speaker 3: Have we've seen that black mold theory that's been on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it's multiple pictures and then she changed

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Speaker 1: her profile picture and they called they're trying to call

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Speaker 1: her JK Molding, like fucking amazing.

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Speaker 2: It really looks fucked up, like she hasn't. I guess

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Speaker 2: it's just it's like the gray Gardens thing, where you

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Speaker 1: About the insides of your walls.

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Speaker 2: Right, you would think that she would have had enough

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Speaker 2: contractors come through her house to like is it.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, and also self farness. As a writer, she's

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Speaker 3: like living inside of a tragedy. Like her house is

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Speaker 3: a metaphor. Right, it's very it's very direct, it's very meta.

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Speaker 2: I quite like the black mold as a metaphor.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think the name Cho Chang came from?

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Speaker 2: Cho Chang? I don't know the sporesang sounds like the Jews.

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Speaker 1: Out of the Goblins. The spores told me.

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Speaker 2: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three point fifty one,

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Speaker 2: episode four of at Least I Guys, WHOA My voice

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Speaker 2: cracked a little bit. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's

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Speaker 2: a podcast where we take a deep dive into America

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Speaker 2: share consciousness. I'm trying to learn not to speak directly

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Speaker 2: with my lips pressed against the microphone here, like three

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Speaker 2: thousand episodes into the show, I've been told my mike

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Speaker 2: discipline is bad.

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Speaker 4: Quick kissing your mic.

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Speaker 2: Quick making out with the mic. I'm eating that thing,

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Speaker 2: probably spitting on that thing.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, the mic is his couch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's to me what the couches to

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Speaker 2: other people. It is Thursday, August fifteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Did I say that? I don't know who cares? Who knows?

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Speaker 2: My name is Jack O'Brien aka.

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Speaker 5: I guess where stuck above the world because of budgets.

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Speaker 5: Guess where stuck above the world because of budgets till

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Speaker 5: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Stuck at doc in Nita shower. My teeth rot from

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Speaker 2: bowing cowers can't return. It'll burn people. Second, first, the firm.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. I know you expect this quit going,

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Speaker 2: but it did not. It was plenty well done. Jmu

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Speaker 2: sick one on the discord in reference to the Boeing

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Speaker 2: astronauts who are stuck on the International Space Station because

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Speaker 2: Boeing cannot stop fucking up. They just they don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Actually they're yeah, so they're gonna keep them up there

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Speaker 2: until twenty twenty five. It makes them horny. Boeing is like, ooh,

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Speaker 2: did we do that? Sorry, making a little betty boop.

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Speaker 1: Like they're like rubbing their nipples.

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Speaker 2: God, Boeing is so horny getting those astronauts stuck up there.

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Speaker 2: It is boy astronaut, girl asternauts.

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Speaker 1: Like the emergency room. They're pulling astronauts out of bowing yeah,

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Speaker 1: like no, you're back again. You just fell on an astronaut.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that's right. Yeah. It's like a less feel

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Speaker 2: good version of the Martian, Like if all the scenes

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Speaker 2: spin and them just fighting with NASA to be like

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Speaker 2: let us blow them up. We just want to get them.

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Speaker 2: This just looks so bad. And anyways, I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 2: which she also produces. It's probably gunwa.

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Speaker 1: Get ready for this one.

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Speaker 6: I know you wanted me to stay, but I can't

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Speaker 6: can all be queens. Every single day, I'm having wicked

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Speaker 6: dreams of leaving Ohio. I hear the White House. I

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Speaker 6: It's gonna cause a scene they see their baby boy.

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Speaker 6: I know they're gonna scream events.

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Speaker 2: What have you done?

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Speaker 6: You're a pink pony boy and you dance with repubs

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Speaker 6: Silk and Valley. I'm I'm just having fun on the

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Speaker 6: the All Ride Rip pubs. I'm gonna keep Bond dancing

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Speaker 2: Wait, what was yesterday? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was hosting and I didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you went you went hoard today I went forward.

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Speaker 1: I had to. I had to balance out your throwbacks, Jack,

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Speaker 1: you have a good you have a good selection. And

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Speaker 2: Still, what is that song?

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Speaker 1: It's Pink Pony Club by Chapel Roane. I can't even

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Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle Roam, which is so bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured it was a song by either Chappelle

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Speaker 2: Roan or the other one who rat Espresso I know, Charlie, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: energetic pop music. But I am too old. Well, Paulavy,

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Speaker 2: all week, folks, But we are thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 2: in our third seat by a very talented writer, stand

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Speaker 2: up comedian co host of The Bechdel Cast. One of

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Speaker 2: the great film podcasts. They also happen to have a

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Speaker 2: master's degree in film, not something that they ever mentioned.

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Speaker 1: That's wild. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: I had no Oh my god, I had no idea.

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Speaker 2: The most anagrammable name in the English language. So if

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Speaker 2: d Titanic or nine tit Dracula or Latin dancer Uti

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Speaker 2: it to us, they will always be Caitlin D.

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Speaker 4: Got another one, got another? I think this is new. Wow, Okay, ready,

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Speaker 4: let acid rain nut.

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Speaker 2: Let you know, acid rain nut.

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Speaker 4: If you're like, what what should I let acid rain do?

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Speaker 4: N let it nut?

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Speaker 2: You know, thank you gross. But I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like that's been a Republican policy for generations.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the environment all over.

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Speaker 1: Let it nut like mother nature, more like male.

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Speaker 4: Nature, Daddy nature. Let it fa chemical, harmful, corrosive chemicals

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it throws up the towel at us

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I'm as good as anyone could be. While

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Speaker 4: we're all dying of capitalism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so great, great just in Denisle, you know,

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Speaker 2: Making our way through the world today and it kind

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Speaker 2: of sucks. All right, Well, Caitlyn, we're going to get

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Speaker 2: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 2: we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things

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Speaker 2: we're talking about today. Trump is suing America as things

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Speaker 1: The men'swear guy started to going on his shoulder pads

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Speaker 1: Hey man, you're weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about how that's all going. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: Might even get to mister Beast's real world squid game,

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Speaker 2: which insane apparently not great, which I was surprised by.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've got, mister Beast, You've got an unronic,

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Speaker 1: There's the interview of the person who was kept awake

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Speaker 1: But it might be violating war rules Geneva convention.

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Speaker 2: That's what's so funny about him is he violates Geneva conventions,

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Speaker 2: from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

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Speaker 4: I googled this phrase dating apps that don't suck shit?

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Speaker 4: The results I was up for.

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Speaker 4: It was just like, here are some dating apps that

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Speaker 1: That do have traumatize you in real time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good search. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: they got around that search. That seems pretty air tight.

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Speaker 1: That's well, what is the name of the like when

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Speaker 1: someone's attracted to somebody's intelligence, sabio sexual? They had an

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Speaker 2: Sure, people, And I'm sure it attracts a lot of

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Speaker 2: We're the dating app that doesn't suck shit, and it's

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Speaker 2: how capitalism, this modern version of capitalism works, is like,

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Speaker 2: so we'll claim that we don't do the thing that

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Speaker 4: Else, anyone else. Yeah. Yeah, they all seem to be

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Speaker 2: The shit suckingest app. How is the.

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Speaker 1: Meeting people in real life situation right now? Given that

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Speaker 4: So I keep hearing about people joining like running club

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Speaker 4: I don't have anything against. It's the people who suck shit.

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Speaker 4: The diamond in the rock more like the diamond in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the diamond in the heavily compacted ship. You know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, car all right, Daily's sikey No, No, I wasn't

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Speaker 4: Oh, let's hope. So they have to like Paddington and

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Speaker 4: that's about it. Does anybody know Paddington? Does anybody know Paddington?

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Speaker 1: I met this person on a dating app. They were Paddington, fucker.

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Speaker 2: And that was that was like a story of a

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Speaker 2: They just keep asking about Paddington, my cousin, Have you

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Speaker 4: I'd rather walk into the ocean.

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Speaker 2: Muttering to yourself with fish. Yeah. I think that's a

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Speaker 4: I don't think raccoons kill rip crows in half.

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Speaker 2: Know, it's our wasst that they're ours, like going through Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the little Greta Thunbergs of cards.

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Speaker 2: That's great. Underrated, even though they did murder one of

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Speaker 4: All right, living in LA this is blasphemous to say,

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Speaker 4: Anyone who's like go hiking with me, I tell them

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Speaker 4: It's just it's too hard. I know it's a good

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Speaker 1: That is such a disturbing and.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I had a long catch up with my friend,

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Speaker 1: and it works great for that, but I would never

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Speaker 1: do it as a date for sure.

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Speaker 2: Does take like forty five minutes for them to explain

441
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: the finer points of libertarianism though, So that's why it

442
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: does work out pretty well because for the first like thirty,

443
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Speaker 2: you might not be on board, but it really they

444
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Speaker 2: bring it home and deck.

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Speaker 1: When you say them, do you mean.

446
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Speaker 2: They just other guys?

447
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: Definitely not me, not me. I definitely don't have my

448
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: favorite libertarian hikes mapped out across the city.

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Speaker 2: This one has timed out perfectly for the Joe Rogan

450
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Speaker 2: arguing for libertarianism. Yeah, I like work on my breath

451
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: so that I can talk like it's like Beyonce before

452
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Speaker 2: a concert. Wait, I have to be able to talk

453
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Speaker 2: the whole.

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Speaker 1: I literally used to do that to try to wrap

455
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: the bust of rhymes verse on. Look at me now.

456
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: I would walk up and downhills while I.

457
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: Was like, I did the dice rolling.

458
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, to keep the dice rolling.

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Speaker 2: It works. Wow, Yeah, amazing, that was I remember that

460
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: was an anecdote about big Boy from Outcast that like

461
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: blew me away when I was a kid that he

462
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: used to like wrap while running to like get his

463
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Speaker 2: wind up. Like at live shows, he never was out

464
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Speaker 2: of breath.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I have friends who are rappers who who since

466
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: they've started running, have really improved their performance. And I'm like, wow,

467
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Speaker 1: I guess I'm never going to be performer.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, that's right, all right, I run while I

469
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Speaker 4: do my stand upright, stand up while I'm running, so

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Speaker 4: that I.

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Speaker 1: Never I'm just running past people. I'm like, you ever

472
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: suck a dick?

473
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 2: You'd see in La just sprint doing sprints, hill sprint

474
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: for the croft. Yeah. LA sounds terrible after this first act,

475
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: where like running clubs are where people meet and like

476
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: everybody's just hiking.

477
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: Hiking, and people hate.

478
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're allowed to say it. Other people in New

479
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: York don't even start saying anything. We're allowed to say

480
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: for me, we can hate La. We live here, that's right.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's take a quick break and we'll be

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Speaker 2: right back. And we're back. So Yeah, there's the image

483
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Speaker 2: of Trump looking at his phone on a table, looking

484
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: kind of forlorn that I feel like is the image

485
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: of the moment just wait, Trump waiting for America to

486
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: text back. But yeah, while Kelly and Conwen, his advisors,

487
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 2: continue to like beg him to stay on message and

488
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: deliver disciplined attacks on Harrison Walls via Fox News. We

489
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: talked about on trending, like they're just going on Fox

490
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: News to be like, okay, so this is the strategy, sir,

491
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: because they can't. He won't listen to anything that's not

492
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: like coming through his TV on Fox News. But yeah,

493
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: so in public appearances, he's acting like nothing's changed. He's

494
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 2: got this in the bag, there's nothing to worry about.

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00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: Behind the scenes, it's apparently getting a little sweaty, which

496
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: might be why he's gone with a new color palette.

497
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: By the way, have you noticed that he's like no

498
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,239
Speaker 2: longer as colorful. He's just kind of looks like a

499
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: pale old man. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like Biden took his hand. Do you

501
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: remember when they started teaching Biden towards the end, like

502
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: old leather towards the end when he was like debating

503
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: and stuff, and like right after the debate they started

504
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: making him take the orange, and it's like he sucked

505
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: the color out of Trump.

506
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, through the dick. He sucked it through the dick.

507
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: I'm just I have some short stories and that you

508
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: should check out. But yeah. So apparently he has grown

509
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: increasingly upset about Harris's surging pull numbers and media coverage

510
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: since replacing Biden on the ticket, complaining relentlessly and asking

511
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: friends about how his campaign is performing, which is I

512
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: love that little detail.

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00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: Instead of telling that's gross. Oh my god, I love

514
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: to see it.

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00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, do people like me? Yes, exactly.

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00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god. We need to bring back the tiny

517
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Speaker 1: hands thing. We could have this whole. It could be

518
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: another raccoon moment, you know.

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00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, they do have terrifying I.

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00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: Love their tiny little hand Yeah.

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00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they I mean, but I think that's why

522
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Speaker 2: they're able to tear a bird clean and half. Anyways,

523
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: they uh did not go the way you want it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you have enough proof. Okay, but it

525
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 4: was a raccoon? Yeah, who tore this crow in half?

526
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I just anyone has information on the crow that was

528
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: torn in asf please please let us know.

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00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 4: Even if it was a raccoon that tore the crow

530
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Speaker 4: in half, I'm sure he had a really good reason.

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Speaker 2: What if the crow was trying to get at the

532
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: trash while he was eating the trash, which is his

533
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Speaker 2: duty as an American. So you know, the crow fucked up.

534
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not getting any closer to the crows either, Jack.

535
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: They're going to hear this.

536
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: You know that. Oh yeah, they're they're big listeners. But yeah,

537
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: I just like that the Trump campaign has all the

538
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: pulling and like strategic firepower of a leasing leading like

539
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: presidential campaign. And he's just like asking his friends how

540
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: he looks. He's like, he did, so, how do you

541
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: think we're doing? Do you think we're Do I look

542
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: cool out there?

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the whole reason he's running, That's the

544
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: only is for money and power and like to feel

545
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: cool in front of Baron, Like that's.

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Speaker 2: It, I don't think.

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00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean like the people that that baron,

548
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: like his friends.

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00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah that's true. I do feel like a

550
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: group of like fourteen year old boys could completely ruin

551
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: his self self confidence, which is very relatable.

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Speaker 1: If I got roasted by a group of fourteen year

553
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Speaker 1: old boys, yeah I would have a run for president again.

554
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd never leave my parents' basement.

555
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

556
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: But also so he's also in public been expressing a

557
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: lot of confidence in the JD. Vance pick. Behind the scenes,

558
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: not so much there. There's quotes from people who have

559
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: been talking with him who said he picked Vance, he

560
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: knows Vance was a terrible, terrible pick. This is Scaramucci,

561
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: remember him.

562
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: This guy is back in full force.

563
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Speaker 2: I know quote he's lighting people up and I had

564
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Speaker 2: his campaign right now about picking Vance, which just you know,

565
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: we all we already know how he feels about Don Junior,

566
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: who is the one who like chose this candidate.

567
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: It's like, who DoD Junior?

568
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: Who's that Yeah, you're dead to me. I do wonder

569
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 2: if he like it's probably too late for him to

570
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: switch up VP candidates, although he seems so jealous of

571
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: the Democrats making the change that I could see him

572
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: trying to do it, trying to like fire Vance, and

573
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: I don't know who he would bring bring in in

574
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: his place. But like the other quote that they say

575
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: is he keeps saying it's unfair that I beat him,

576
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: and now I have to beat her too, So he's

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00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: like the you know, I could see that logic leading

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Speaker 2: him to try and fire Vance.

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Speaker 1: But then, yeah, who would he bring in? Who do

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Speaker 1: you think I.

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Speaker 2: Don't even know, like probably not Marco Rubio, but I

582
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: really don't know. Maybe Nikki Haley, although.

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Speaker 1: I mean that would be really funny because he is

584
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: very hypocritical, and so he would be like, oh, I'm

585
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: very insecure about being old and not a woman and

586
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: not ethnic in any capacity. Right, so I'm going to

587
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: bring someone in which is for the for a DEI

588
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: whatever that I called the other group out on. But

589
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: then he would hate her immediately. Yes, there's no one

590
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: that he could bring in that he wouldn't absolutely hate.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it almost he almost would like want

592
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Speaker 1: to get rid of Vans and then just run the

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Speaker 1: show on. Like he would be like, I'm also vice

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Speaker 1: president or like Ivanka come back, like like the like

595
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: defendant who is his son defending?

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00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he is suing America. He's basically doing the

597
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: equivalent of being like this whole courtrooms out of.

598
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: Order because he loves this country.

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00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the thing that's kind of putting the whole

600
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Speaker 2: movement of like the polls away from Trump towards Harris

601
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Speaker 2: and Walls into perspective is actually a clip from Nicky

602
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Speaker 2: Haley being interviewed on CNN last February, where She said,

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Speaker 2: the party that gets rid of their eighty year old

604
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: candidate is the party that will win. There will be

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Speaker 2: a female president of the United States. It will either

606
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: be me or it will be Kamala Harris. If Republicans

607
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: nominate Donald Trump, it will be Kamala Harris. We have

608
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Speaker 2: to respect. Seventy percent of Americans said they don't want

609
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: a Biden Trump rematch. The majority of Americans disapprove of

610
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: Trump and disapprove of Biden. So if that's right, that

611
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: explains kind of what is happening. People like didn't don't

612
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: like either of them, and the only reason Trump looked

613
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: like he was going to win was because they like

614
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Speaker 2: really didn't like Biden.

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Speaker 1: How freaked out you're saying? Nicky Haley is like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I was right, you guys, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: If did it, I got one right.

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Speaker 1: It's insane. I can't believe they recorded that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I just think that there's so much energy

620
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: right now, Like the latest polling has Kamala up five.

621
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Inflation just dropped to its lowest level in three years,

622
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: so everything's looking good for her. It would be so

623
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: cool if she could get her administration to stop funding

624
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: the mass murder of a bunch of innocent children in Palestine.

625
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: But she is not paying a price for that right now, unfortunately,

626
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Speaker 1: So why would she stop if she doesn't have the

627
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Speaker 1: external pressure to do so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there are going to be protests

629
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Speaker 2: that the DNC. It will be interesting to see how

630
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: much attention they get and what that attention looks like,

631
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 2: because it really feels like the way the mainstream media

632
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: metabolized the student protests, it has like turned it into

633
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: these are like anti Israel protests, anti Semitic protests like that,

634
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: they just like went with the bad faith interpretation.

635
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also interesting to see how the trends have

636
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: gone on Twitter, Like there's a huge increase in people

637
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: calling Palestinian protesters or activists the watermelon people, Like this

638
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: has become a thing, like I knew those watermelon people

639
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: were insidious or whatever and trying to pit different cultural

640
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: groups or races against each other, and it's just been

641
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: it's just been really weird to see the influx of

642
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: those types of tweets. So I'm not sure if they're

643
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: like genuine or if people are getting caught up, or

644
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: if it's like box or something or some combination of them.

645
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: But we do know that there have been Box involved

646
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: in previous American elections right before to try to influence it,

647
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be surprised if there were some of that.

648
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: But simultaneously, it is such a dismissive terminology. I really

649
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: hope it's not something that's taking on a life of

650
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: its own.

651
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Twitter is absolute garbage.

652
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: That's when I do it.

653
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are good. But then no, but they're like

654
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: they just keep pushing the dial to be like more

655
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: fascists more. Oh you you're still using it? How about

656
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Speaker 2: even more fascists like they I did get a helpful

657
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Speaker 2: notification that the Trump Musk interview was happening the other night.

658
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh cool, thanks, you know me so well.

659
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Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's a it's not a good.

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Speaker 1: Why do you turn into Mario when you're thinking about the.

661
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 2: That's that's how I'm getting good. So if I I'm

662
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: trying to wean myself off of a Trump my Trump

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Speaker 2: voice by doing a Mario.

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Speaker 1: Going back to the last choice, yeah, that's a really

665
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Speaker 1: great choice.

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Speaker 2: You're a fashions Let's take a quick break, shall we,

667
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Speaker 2: and come back and talk about things that aren't Donald Trump,

668
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Speaker 2: Maybe let's do it and we're back. And so we

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Speaker 2: talked yesterday about how Apple announced last week they're reigning

670
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Speaker 2: in they're spending on streaming after launching a bunch of

671
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Speaker 2: shows and keeping them a secret, like like it was

672
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Speaker 2: a trade secret, like there were no supposed to know

673
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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I make just for me.

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00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: That's right now. Paramount announced within the past couple of

676
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: days that they're shuttering their TV studios. But these are

677
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Speaker 2: just examples of how economically depressed the American entertainment industry

678
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: seems to have been for the past year.

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Speaker 1: Not just economically, buddy, have you seen my bank account?

680
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's bad out there. Like everybody I talked

681
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: to who works in the entertainment industry is like, this

682
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: is the worst I've ever seen it. Like that seems

683
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Speaker 2: to be the and I've talked to I'm old as

684
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: fuck you, guys. I've talked to some very old people

685
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: who say it's the worst they've ever seen.

686
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Speaker 1: It, well, like over thirty.

687
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Speaker 2: Like even thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Disgusting.

689
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 2: I try not to hang out with them, but you know, weird.

690
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Speaker 1: They take your life for us.

691
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they need their putting fed to them.

692
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Speaker 4: So but I feel like this is all because of

693
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Speaker 4: and I don't know enough about it. So I'm kind

694
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: of speculating here, but the that's what that's how this

695
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: show should be, right, just like making wild guesses and yeah, all.

696
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Speaker 1: Weird, caveat it, you can say anything. Yeah, So I

697
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: think I don't know enough about it.

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00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: There's like too much supply and not enough demand. There's

699
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: just like too much content and they're spending money on

700
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Speaker 4: all these shows and like all these things, and every

701
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: platform has like bazillion original series and original movies and

702
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and it's like there's no conceivable way

703
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Speaker 4: that any person who even like even people who consume

704
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 4: a lot of media, such as myself, I'm constantly watching Flims, but.

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Speaker 2: Like whim, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Flims.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they're about three hours long with no breaks. Now

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Speaker 1: you know Flims. You go to the movie Nicole Kidman

709
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Speaker 1: talks at you at the beginning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll come to this place for Flims. So it's

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Speaker 4: just like there's too much And that's why I'm guessing

712
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Speaker 4: that's why there's such a Because back in the day

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Speaker 4: when Hollywood was thriving is because there were like I

714
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Speaker 4: don't know, likeludes three there's lutes and.

715
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Speaker 2: That coalutes and cocaine at the same time, we thought

716
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Speaker 2: both of them were healthy and they're only.

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Speaker 4: Like, you know, five new movies coming out every month.

718
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 4: And there was like just not that much content, and

719
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: now there's too much. And if I know anything about

720
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Speaker 4: the economics, which I don't, but I know some I

721
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: know that it's like supply and demand. Yeah, and there's

722
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Speaker 4: too much supply and not And there.

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Speaker 2: Has been.

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Speaker 1: Investing or like mentoring or allowing things to grow, which

725
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Speaker 1: I think is tied into that problem. They're not allowing

726
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Speaker 1: good content. That's like kind of the As an avid

727
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: reality TV show fan, I have to call out that

728
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: the reason that they do that is because it's a

729
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Speaker 1: lot cheaper to do that and pump out a ton

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Speaker 1: of seasons of the same show rather than invest in

731
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Speaker 1: like the development of characters and plot and getting like

732
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Speaker 1: the actors that you really want to get. That's like great,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, They're not just not as

734
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Speaker 1: invested in the quality of the content.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so they invest they overinvested in streaming.

736
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Speaker 2: They like went too hard on streaming, and now they

737
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Speaker 2: have stopped developing like anything new, like they just cut

738
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Speaker 2: it off. And that's why I like all these streaming

739
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: companies are like you know, you're starting to see the

740
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Speaker 2: headlines that they're like pulling it back after overinvesting without

741
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Speaker 2: really any business plan of like how to make money

742
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Speaker 2: off of that. It was just so I think there's

743
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Speaker 2: like one of the big things that happened is like

744
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: there's no it's now controlled by like five big companies.

745
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: Like in the past Hollywood had been had enough regulations

746
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: in place to prevent just massive consolidation like we have now,

747
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: and then slowly by slowly, like starting with Reagan and

748
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Speaker 2: into like the Clinton administration.

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Speaker 4: Reygun yeah, well famous breakdancer Reygun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, she was the president of the US from

751
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Speaker 2: eighty to eighty eight, and she came through and just deregulated,

752
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: Like it's just deregulation over and over until now there's

753
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Speaker 2: like only a handful of companies and they're all chasing

754
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: each other, and you know, so like one of them

755
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: has like decides to invest in streaming, and so they

756
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: all like overinvest in streaming, and then there's just not

757
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: the small companies anymore. Who like when the big companies

758
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: all do the same stupid thing, are there to like

759
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Speaker 2: zag and like do the smart thing that then the

760
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: big companies like impersonate and like copy off of you know.

761
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Speaker 2: So now it's just like big guys making terrible decisions

762
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Speaker 2: and making the same terrible decision all at the same time,

763
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Speaker 2: and nobody there to do the smart thing that like

764
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Speaker 2: creates the market correction. That and then the other really

765
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: big problem is that private equity has gotten Like in

766
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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, you know, when they were just

767
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Speaker 2: basically printing money for free, private equity got involved in Hollywood,

768
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Speaker 2: and so now we have a handful of like massive

769
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Speaker 2: companies and they private equity money is involved. So their

770
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Speaker 2: instincts are like private equity are these like massive companies

771
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Speaker 2: and their model is like trying to make money as

772
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Speaker 2: quickly as possible. They're just like extracting capital from these

773
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Speaker 2: companies that they're investing in or taking over.

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Speaker 1: And so it's private equity equity.

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Speaker 2: They're just like us, yes, yeah, And so I just

776
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: feel like we have fewer people calling the shots, and

777
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: the people calling the shots have just way worse instincts.

778
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Speaker 2: And this is how you get to the entertainment dark

779
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Speaker 2: ages that we might be about to live through, which.

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Speaker 4: Is a bummer because so many good movie I feel

781
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Speaker 4: like there was a period of like the content that

782
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Speaker 4: was coming out and yet and like I'm speaking from

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Speaker 4: a place of like my personal taste, yes, but but

784
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: so so many of the movies that came out have

785
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: come out with in the past like and I'm speaking

786
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 4: again and also specifically about movies more so than TV.

787
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Speaker 4: But I guess what I'm saying is no more TV.

788
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 4: More movies. That's the platform that I'm running.

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Speaker 1: Glimbs on flims.

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Speaker 4: We've been heard this period in the past couple of

791
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Speaker 4: years where like some really good not like major studio pictures,

792
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 4: things that are like lower budget, not based on you know,

793
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: comic books or any existing you know, huge properties, just

794
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 4: like independent, low budget but like really well done movies

795
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 4: are coming out. Because there was like I don't know,

796
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Speaker 4: there was like five years where I'm like, every movie

797
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: I've seen this year sucks. But within the past couple

798
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Speaker 4: of years there's so much new good stuff and I

799
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 4: would hate to see that all go away because Hollywood

800
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 4: doesn't understand what people want.

801
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: Right.

802
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: Everyone should see DD. Everyone should see meeecap. Everyone should

803
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: see other movies that have come out recently.

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Speaker 2: Good the end, Thelma, Okay, is that good? Thelma?

805
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 4: I loved Selma. I thought it was so fun. And

806
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 4: then like last year, there were all these great movies Theater, Camp,

807
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 4: Dix The Musical, and also others. Unless I have a

808
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 4: list in front of me, I never know what I'm

809
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 4: talking about.

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Speaker 1: But obviously The Beekeeper is on that list for sure.

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Speaker 2: The bee Keeper Fully in the.

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Speaker 4: Caper, Jason Statham in the actor Darling.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I just watched Trap. That sure doesn't make sense. Yeah,

814
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Speaker 1: but I'm a huge advocate of Indian mediocrity, so I'm

815
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: going to always support mn.

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Speaker 2: Shyamalan and his kids. And Taylor he said.

817
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said that she was his niece in the movie.

818
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: But it sounds but it might be as kid it

819
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: was fully just an album rollout for her.

820
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Speaker 2: I will say, intrigued by that. I want to see

821
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Speaker 2: that the same I had.

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Speaker 1: Such it's a trap itself because I had really high hopes.

823
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Speaker 2: And isn't there anyone in your theater like trying to

824
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Speaker 2: kill like kill people?

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like no, well kind of because we

826
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Speaker 1: went and Jackieth and I went and saw it, and

827
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Speaker 1: Ryan from the Boys, the kid Homelander's son in The Boys,

828
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Speaker 1: was there with all of his friends, like the actor

829
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Speaker 1: who played Oh wow, that kid, but he wasn't trying

830
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Speaker 1: to kill anyone.

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Speaker 2: That's disappointing.

832
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Speaker 1: It was a trap in that I thought it would

833
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Speaker 1: be fun, and then it was fun, but also very confusing.

834
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Speaker 1: One thing that I was going to say is like,

835
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Speaker 1: this is all like on a high studio. Oh, there

836
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: are these conglomerates, deregulation, regularization level, but for how that

837
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: affects like us individually, the fact that we can't pitch

838
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Speaker 1: new shows. But even beyond that, I'm seeing more and

839
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: more huge celebrities in commercials that just nobody's like us

840
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: should be in. You know.

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Speaker 2: So the day to day in used to be just

842
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: everyday actors.

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00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it used to be just every I went into

844
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: audition and I saw somebody who I've seen for I

845
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: don't remember. He's one of those people you see him

846
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: in everything, you don't know his name. He was also auditioning.

847
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing here? You're like a

848
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Speaker 1: TV movie star. Let me sell my soul for this,

849
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Speaker 1: Like why? And you see that with also like what

850
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: they're willing to take risks on. And then the second

851
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say was I saw a clip

852
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: that Jackie supposed today of like Matt Damon explaining why

853
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: you can't make the same movies that you did in

854
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: the nineties, and it's because of streaming and how like

855
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: they had the DVD release and so they were able

856
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: to get their income both from the box office and

857
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: then the later DVD release. But now it's it's only

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Speaker 1: it's very it's a lot less in theaters because people

859
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Speaker 1: have the option of streaming, which I think is great

860
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: and accessible, but it just means that less money is

861
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: invested into different types of films and there's fewer risks

862
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: that are being taken or fewer incentives for people to

863
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: bet on these movies that might not might not have

864
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Speaker 1: big box office summer action film Fast and the Furious

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Speaker 1: thirty two rest assert release.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they because it's they've been taken over by corporations.

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Speaker 2: Corporations always want to like eliminate risk as much as possible,

868
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Speaker 2: which is impossible with art. But up to this point,

869
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: we've had a bunch of federal regulations protecting it from

870
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: being the way it is, like right now four companies

871
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: controlled more than seventy five percent of WGA writers earnings.

872
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: Like there's four companies that control the whole thing like that.

873
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Speaker 2: There were so many laws in place to keep that

874
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: from happening, and now it's just these four companies who

875
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: all when like one of them said we're going to

876
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: do our launch our own streaming platform and like double

877
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: down on content, they all did that. They created this

878
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: like bloated thing that wasn't well thought through and like

879
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: where they didn't know how they were going to get

880
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: people to actually fucking watch the stuff that they were making,

881
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: and then when that failed predictably, now they're like, well,

882
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: you know, the way that they're responding to that is

883
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: like writers are no longer like they took away development pay.

884
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: It used to be a thing where like they would

885
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: sign on a writer to develop a pitch that they

886
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: had approved or that they were interested in, and like

887
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: that writer would be on the payroll for however long

888
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: it took to develop it. And now they've just like

889
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: changed it so that writers have to do that all

890
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: by themselves, Like they don't get paid during the development process.

891
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a people to judge like McKinley consultant

892
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: coming in and being like, you have to play moms now,

893
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: you're too old. Top down consultant, business person.

894
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know writer who have like spent years developing

895
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: projects that like are you know, have actors attached and

896
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: like seem like they're gonna go and then never go.

897
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: And that person just like worked for a year and

898
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: didn't see like a single cent and it's just like

899
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: that's the way it's set up. Now. It's like a

900
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 2: really anti worker situation. It fucking sucks.

901
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. I have a friend who has been working

902
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: for a couple of years on a script that's like

903
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 4: a studio backed superhero movie and like has not been

904
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 4: paid to like frequently enough or enough like amount of

905
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: money for all the work he has put in. And

906
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: I keep being like like can you can you like,

907
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 4: how do you advocate for yourself? Can you ask for

908
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: money for the labor you're tirelessly doing? And he's just like, uh, yeah,

909
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: I'm trying, but they don't want to pay. And I'm

910
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 4: just like what is this? What is this world? Yeah?

911
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: That's wild because also everybody is desperate and so there's

912
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: always someone to replace you, and that just that feeling sucks. Yeah,

913
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: or like how during the writers' strike, I forget which

914
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: executive said that they were essentially like trying to threaten

915
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: us with homelessness.

916
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, which guy was that? Which horrible monster?

917
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 2: It was either a Disney guy or Zazz the Zazz.

918
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, So the thing that they're going to because

919
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 2: the development process has too much quote unquote like risk

920
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 2: for these now like purely corporate entities that run seventy

921
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: five percent of Hollywood, they're going to be even more

922
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: reliant on IP, which is going to make movies shittier.

923
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: Like we're already seeing people be like God, like Shazam

924
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: two came out last year, Like I like that. I

925
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 2: can't believe speaking of Libertarian last year, right, the same

926
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: actor just drop what's his name zach Leva.

927
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: Zackly, Zachary Levi and Harold and the Purple Crown.

928
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, another another IP grab from like a nineteen fifties

929
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: children's book. But because you don't have to like pay

930
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: anyone whose idea that was, they're just like, I don't know,

931
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: let's just grab fucking everything on our shelves and green

932
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: light it. The Rubik's Cube the movie like whatever.

933
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 4: You know, it's only okay when it's patted right.

934
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: It's fine when it's and sometimes it works out.

935
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't for those reasons, if it wasn't to avoid

936
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: paying people, mm hmm, because then they could actually make

937
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: a good movie.

938
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: Heard of. The Purple Crown cost forty million dollars on production,

939
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: probably another forty in you know, marketing it, and it

940
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: made nine million globally, like in its first week. Like

941
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: it's just a complete And I could have told them

942
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: if they had they had just asked me, I could

943
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: have told them that was going to happen.

944
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: And that money, that forty million is not going to

945
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: Caitlin's friend who needs to get paid for them, No,

946
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: going to other people.

947
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 4: It's going to this already rich studio execs and shit

948
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 4: like that.

949
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I mean the there's a good article

950
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: on Harper's about this. Author basically argues that some kind

951
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: of radical intervention, either from the government or the workers,

952
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 2: will be necessary to fix the problem. But I think everybody,

953
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, everybody just lived through a really scary and

954
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: difficult strike and now it's like worse than it's ever been.

955
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: Daniel Bessner is the name of the person who were

956
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: at the Harper article. So yeah, but that's like I think,

957
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: I don't think people are quite aware of what's going

958
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: on outside of Hollywood, but like inside of Hollywood, it's like, no,

959
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: no new ideas are being like they're not even like

960
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: responding to pitches anymore. They're just like that. Yeah. We

961
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: there are a handful of massive companies and they have

962
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: absolutely no appetite for risk a kaa like creativity or art.

963
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: Whatever you do, do not let this episode get back

964
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: to my parents. Do not let them know that we're

965
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: doing fine health insurance. We're going to bu house any

966
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: day now.

967
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, Well, Caitlin, what a pleasure having you

968
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: as always.

969
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

970
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

971
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 4: You can follow me on Instagram, I guess. Actually please

972
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: follow me because it makes me seem like a legitimate comedian,

973
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: which I am, and I'm trying to do more stand

974
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 4: up So if you want to book me on your

975
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 4: stand up show, you can do that. Please, let's do that.

976
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 4: You can listen to my podcast, The Bechdel Cast, where

977
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 4: we examine movies through an intersexual feminist lens. A little

978
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 4: plug I'd like to plug is Jamie and I are

979
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 4: presenting a screening of the movie Chicken Run Wow in

980
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 4: Los Angeles, the place that is actually awesome, even all

981
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 4: over it for most of the episode. No, I actually

982
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 4: really like living in LA and that's the truth. And

983
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 4: we're doing this screening of Chicken Run a great flim

984
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 4: as a part of American Cinema Techs Friend of the

985
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: Fest podcast festival, where they have podcasters present one of

986
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 4: their favorite movies. So Jamie and I are dressing up

987
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 4: like chickens and this movie on August A Studio execs.

988
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

989
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: But come out to the Lowsphilas three on August twenty

990
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: fifth at four o'clock for this screening of Trick and Run.

991
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 4: Trick and Run, Yeah, it's like trick or treat, but

992
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: you run afterwards after you've tricked the person.

993
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: That's right full them big time.

994
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 4: Chick and Run tickets are if you go to link

995
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 4: tree slash Bechtel Cast. You can find them there or

996
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 4: on the American Cinema Tech website. I'm also gonna plug

997
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 4: once again my screenwriting classes. Again. I would never mention

998
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 4: my master's degree in screenwriting never, but I do teach screen,

999
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: I would mention my classes. I have an intro class

1000
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: and a workshopping class that I teach, So check those out.

1001
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: You can go where you can find out more about

1002
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: your master's degree. Yes, I actually just monologue three hours

1003
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: at a time about my master's degree. That's right.

1004
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also when the when the entertainment industry comes back,

1005
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: you want to be prepared. Okay, They're gonna eventually take

1006
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: new pitches, and you want to be the first pitch

1007
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: in line.

1008
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 4: Okay, you want to be the not going to get

1009
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: paid for all the labor that you do, and you

1010
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 4: can learn to do that by taking my class. So

1011
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 4: go to Caitlin Durante dot com slash classes for all

1012
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: of that information. And uh, yeah, a piece of media

1013
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 4: I've been enjoying.

1014
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: Hey, is there a piece of media you've been enjoying, Hey, caitlinjoying.

1015
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: Well, for all the gang out there who are cat

1016
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 4: quest heads, cat Quest three is a video game. Okay,

1017
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: Uh cat Quest three dropped recently and I've been playing

1018
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: it and I've been enjoying it. So that's my answer.

1019
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: There you go, that is a piece of media you've

1020
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: been enjoying.

1021
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 4: So true, so true.

1022
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: By the way some spec scripts. These are the sorts

1023
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: of movies that we wouldn't have. You got your Thelma

1024
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: and Louise Goodwill Hunting American Beauty, the sixth sense, massive

1025
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: movies that north by Northwest Like a lot of the

1026
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: greatest movies of all time were movies that were not

1027
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: based on IP. I don't know why I need to

1028
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: give examples of that. A lot of good movies not

1029
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: based on IP out there, folks. I will be reading

1030
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: a three thousand movie long list about that later. Amazing.

1031
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: Paula Be, thank you so much for co hosting. Where

1032
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: can people find you as their workimedia you've been enjoying.

1033
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: I am at Paulivian Alan p A L l A

1034
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Speaker 1: v I g U n A l A N I

1035
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: am everywhere. I'm inside your walls like the moment, everywhere.

1036
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: I run a stand up show at the comedy store.

1037
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: August twentieth is our next show, and then the show

1038
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: after that is September twentieth. It's facial recognition comedy. You

1039
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: can follow our Instagram to find out more about that. Okay,

1040
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do one. That's my own tweet because I

1041
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: am obsessed with what this is. But then also I'll

1042
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: do a different one. But have you guys seen the

1043
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: Have you seen the Andrew Garfield Florence Peugh picture of

1044
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: their promo of their new movie in John Crowley's We

1045
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: Live in Time, And they're like on a carousel and

1046
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Florence Pugh is like holding on to the pole on

1047
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: the carousel, and then Andrew Garfield has his head nuzzled

1048
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: into her. And then there's a really fucked up horse.

1049
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: It's part of the carousel and it's dumbest base. So

1050
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be this romantic moment, but it just looks.

1051
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: I posted like I'm dying a this horse. But then

1052
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm also like, this is me third wheeling my couple

1053
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: friends because I can't. I cannot stop looking at this poster.

1054
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: It's just it's bringing the Internet together. I just thought

1055
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: in the most fucked up way, Hey guys out It's

1056
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: like and I'm also here and everybody's like this this

1057
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: horse is British coated, like I'm just Strollberry. It's just

1058
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: like the most wholesome, innocuous, stupid thing. And then I'm

1059
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: gonna send this some.

1060
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: Horror film about.

1061
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: No idea.

1062
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 4: No, but I I'll write that on spec.

1063
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: Unbelievable that they were just like, yeah, I don't see

1064
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: anything weird about this at all. Let's get it. Let's

1065
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: get it out to the people. The internet thinks.

1066
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: It's so funny. It's some I feel like they almost

1067
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: did it on purpose. And then I saw this clip

1068
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: of Quinta Brunson being interviewed with the cast of Avid

1069
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: Elementary and I just sent it in the chat. But

1070
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: she had to wear heels and she for some of

1071
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: the episodes, and she was talking about how difficult it

1072
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: was and how Janelle James always has to wear heels,

1073
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: and she got so she was had this newfound respect

1074
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: for Janelle James for having to do that on set

1075
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: all day. She got really tired and she took them

1076
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: off and changed into Quinta took them off and like

1077
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: changed into you know, regular shoes because she her feet

1078
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: were so tired. And Janelle James just turned to her

1079
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 1: and went, she ain't no DVA. And I just love

1080
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: that whole cast. I just they're the best.

1081
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Speaker 2: They're a blast. Yeah great, let's see. You can find

1082
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: me on Twitter at jack Underscore O'Brien a tweet I've

1083
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: been enjoying at Jackie underscore, Sabage Sabba g h that

1084
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Speaker 2: can't be sabage. Saba Sabah asked the question is the

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Speaker 2: music they play baseball games diegetic? Like can the players

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Speaker 2: hear it in the world of the game, which would

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Speaker 2: be a great question. I don't know the answer to.

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Speaker 2: we post our episodes and our footnote, but where we

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Speaker 2: link off to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 2: today's episode, as well as a song that we think

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Speaker 2: you might enjoy. Super producer Justin Connor, is there a

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Speaker 2: song that you think people might enjoy on this line

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Speaker 2: Thursday Morning. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love when a singer has the ability to flow

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Speaker 3: like a rapper but can also stack gorgeous harmonies over

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Speaker 3: their tracks. And this song goes even farther by having

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Speaker 3: like these string arrangements and smooth guitars straight out of

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Speaker 3: a classic Bond film. It all comes together in this

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Speaker 3: amazing song from this London based artist named any That's

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Speaker 3: E and Why And the song is called charge It

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Speaker 3: And you can find that song in the footnotes.

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Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going

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Speaker 2: to do it for us this morning. We are back

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Speaker 2: this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we

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