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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, This.

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Speaker 3: Is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic.

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Speaker 4: Christ is king This Thursday through Sunday, don't miss one

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Speaker 4: usays America Fest, airing right here on Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 4: Join us as we honor the legacy and impact of

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Speaker 5: This generation is the most conservative generation that we have

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Speaker 4: and Jack Pisobek, alongside influential leaders from across.

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Speaker 5: The country to say, this, beautiful Republic, you are doing

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome aboard today's edition Human Events Daily

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Speaker 1: Today is December eighteen, twenty.

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Speaker 6: Twenty five, and on Dominique.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say, guys, I was just watching that

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Speaker 1: Amfest video right there, a little promo right before we started, and.

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Speaker 6: It hit me.

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Speaker 1: I'm just put it just hit me that this Amfest

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Speaker 1: which is starting today, and I'm gonna be flying out

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Speaker 1: the weekend with the Turning Point family, that this really

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Speaker 1: is the first one without Charlie. And look, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be lying if I tell you if

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Speaker 6: There's usually a timeframe where Charlie is.

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Speaker 1: Texting us and calling us and saying, hey, make sure

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Speaker 1: promote it, make sure you let people know about Amfest.

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Speaker 1: Let everybody know what's going on, and make sure if

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Speaker 1: couple extra seats, Let's get him in, Let's let's pack it,

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Speaker 1: let's make it big. And I'm just I'm just so

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Speaker 1: used to him, you know, It's usually usually that starts

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Speaker 6: It just kind of, you know, it just kind of

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Speaker 1: And then of course I'll check in with the events

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Speaker 1: team and I'll say, I say, gosh, Charlie really wants

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Speaker 1: us to push this thing. Are we are we low

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Speaker 1: totally fine. We've more than last year. We're almost completely

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Speaker 1: sold up. Why is it's just Charlie being Charlie. It's

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Speaker 1: just Charlie being Charlie. And of course, right, because that's

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Speaker 1: that's how Charlie. That's how Charlie was. That Charlie is work,

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Speaker 1: you know, work harder, be better, do more, go hard.

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Speaker 1: And look, you know, here's the thing, right, here's the thing, folks.

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Speaker 6: We know this.

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Speaker 1: Time will be the first time and the first in

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Speaker 1: a long series of turning point events without Charlie. But

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Speaker 1: the worst possible thing that we could do for Charlie's

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Speaker 1: be to surrender to the people who did this unspeakable

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Speaker 1: evil to him, to Erica, to their children, to the movement.

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Speaker 1: Because we're not going to quit the same way that

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Speaker 1: And you know something, there's only one way to respond

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Speaker 1: And every single person out there, whether you're watching at

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Speaker 5: Yes, Senior Foreign Policy Fellow at American Moment.

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Speaker 6: Yes, foreign policy fellow.

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Speaker 1: American Moment, former Dow official, Dan, We had this sort

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Speaker 6: Last night that the President of the United States was.

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Speaker 1: The question is, I think to your point and too

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Speaker 5: Look again, you don't deploy this force unless you are

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Speaker 1: We had the dignified transfer yesterday over at Dover Air

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Nine to eleven was twenty four years

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Speaker 1: Largest largest covert operation in CIA history in terms of

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Speaker 6: You're not going to see any.

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Speaker 1: We gotta overthrow a sad We got to do whatever

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Speaker 1: The idiots in the neoliberal space who go on Joe

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Speaker 5: No, These are all things that get whitewashed or ignored

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Speaker 5: get training from these Kurdish communists, who, by the way,

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Speaker 5: were supported in training themselves by American Special Forces.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a guy by the name of and we

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Speaker 1: talked about this on the program the other day. There's

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Speaker 1: a guy by with Andy. No, there's a guy by

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Speaker 1: the name of Daniel Allen Baker who is a form

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Speaker 1: former US military members the US Army.

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Speaker 6: He basically left.

447
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Speaker 1: Went over for training with YPG and the Kurds, then

448
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Speaker 1: got battlefield training, came back to the United States and

449
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Speaker 1: participated in the armed blockade of Chaz. He also, it's

450
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Speaker 1: highly suspected, participated in the shooting of those black kids

451
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Speaker 1: that were joy riding and now is in prison in Florida,

452
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Speaker 1: yet has never once been charged with Dan. I could

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Speaker 1: go off on this and you, by the way, Peter's

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Speaker 1: Ahan was who I was thinking of. I couldn't think

455
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Speaker 1: of that idiot's name off the top of my head.

456
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Speaker 1: There who Jack Carr is just absolutely in love with.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what is Jack car getting Peter's

458
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Speaker 1: Ahan for Christmas? Are they going to kiss under the missiletoe?

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Speaker 6: We'll see folks.

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Speaker 1: Go follow Dan Caldwell very soon, go follow him.

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Speaker 6: Right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a punge day here on Human Events Daily, and

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Speaker 1: we are totally out of time because that is the break.

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Speaker 2: We're right back.

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Speaker 9: Jack.

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Speaker 3: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 6: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 4: Where is he?

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Speaker 9: Jack? I want to see you.

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Speaker 8: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 4: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 3: We're always talking about.

473
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Speaker 5: The fake news and the band, but we have guys

474
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Speaker 5: and these are the guys should.

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Speaker 1: Be getting bullishes, all right, Jack with Sovik, we are

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Speaker 1: back live Human Events Daily Washington, DC and folks. So

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Speaker 1: there's as happens typically in my life, a funny thing

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Speaker 1: happened on the internet this week where so I find

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Speaker 1: myself getting caught up with another side of the internet, which,

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Speaker 1: you know, what can I say? I'll explain what happened that.

481
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: So Mick Foley, who is known as he was a

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Speaker 1: great wrestler in the nineties known as Mankind, and he

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Speaker 1: had a couple other you know, different different iterations cactus, Jack,

484
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Speaker 1: do love, and he came out with this post said

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Speaker 1: that he's parting ways with the WWE and he refuses

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Speaker 1: to work with the WWE because he is, you know,

487
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Speaker 1: he views them as too close to Trump and Linda

488
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Speaker 1: McMahon is in the admin and that you know it

489
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Speaker 1: doesn't like what Trump's doing, et cetera, et cetera. But

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Speaker 1: what's crazy, though, of course, is that obviously Trump has

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Speaker 1: been close with WWE four years. The Battle of Billionaires

492
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Speaker 1: was over a decade ago, when he was in the ring,

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Speaker 1: He's in the ww Hall of Fame. He was booking

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Speaker 1: events and promoting events with Hogan and the Giant decades ago.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, it's suddenly, all, you know, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, Mankind is out there. So I posted this

497
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Speaker 1: tweet up. I say, Mankind McK foley, who's a guy

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Speaker 1: who's known for being hit in the head and taking

499
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Speaker 1: more bumps to the head than any single other person

500
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Speaker 1: in wrestling, who literally has you know, the most head damage,

501
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Speaker 1: is the guy who's also the most liberal.

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Speaker 6: Draw your own conclusion.

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Speaker 1: So I posted that up, you know, slapping back on him,

504
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Speaker 1: clapping back. And then Jim Cornett, Corny out of the

505
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: wrestling world, comes in and he's.

506
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Speaker 8: Like er Jack Bishober. He's a bad guy. He's a Nazi,

507
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 8: he's a nutty. He's a nutty, he's a Nazi. We

508
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 8: don't like that guy because Trump's a Nazi and Bennon's

509
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 8: a Nazi. Postones are Nazi, there are Nazis, and.

510
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: It's like this this, he's you know, he uses the

511
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Speaker 1: dehumanization language.

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Speaker 6: He calls this a maggot. So you see this a

513
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Speaker 6: lot from the left whorld.

514
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Speaker 1: They will refer to Trump supporters as subhuman maggots. And

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Speaker 1: I responded that in kind to say, well, actually, Jim,

516
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: aren't you literally known as a guy who was in

517
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Speaker 1: you know, perhaps most euphemistically way I could put it

518
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Speaker 1: in a who had been in an open marriage in

519
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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties and was known for using a certain

520
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: chair in a certain room when people would gather in

521
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: that room for certain shall we say, extramarital activities. So

522
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Speaker 1: it's you know, kind of interesting hearing this guy want

523
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Speaker 1: to moralize a guy he's.

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Speaker 6: Used, you know.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, like you know, I'm not one

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Speaker 1: to sort of like tone police, but here's a guy

527
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Speaker 1: who walks up and sells us he's all the most

528
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Speaker 1: righteous person in the world, and you got videos of

529
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Speaker 1: him saying all sorts of stuff over the years. So

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Speaker 1: I call him out. I say, Corney, you want to talk,

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Speaker 1: come talk, Come face me on in Phoenix, Arizona, come

532
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Speaker 1: to the Amfest stage. I'll book your flight because we

533
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: know you're broke. As a joke, you've been broke since

534
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Speaker 1: the nineties. You can't make any money. Mick Foley's going

535
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: to be losing his contract anyway, his Legends contract.

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Speaker 6: With the WWE. And I looked at Jim Corney's podcast.

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Speaker 1: He gets like five thousand and six thousand, maybe ten

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Speaker 1: thousand views on a good day, right, maybe ten thousand

539
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Speaker 1: views on a good day.

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Speaker 6: So all right, I see what's going on here.

541
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Speaker 1: Trying to cloud chase off post so a little bit,

542
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Speaker 1: trying to cloud chase off my name.

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Speaker 6: Put my name here out, that's fine, that's fine.

544
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Speaker 1: Step into the ring with me at Amfest Phoenix, Arizona,

545
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Speaker 1: and let's go talk about it.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, that's not a work, that's a shoot.

547
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Arcy Maxwell was getting in on it a little bit,

548
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: my friend from from Turning Point Action as well as

549
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Speaker 1: a fellow member of the Pentagon Press Corps. He's actually

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Speaker 1: outside of Amfest right now, RC. What do you think

551
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: should we do it? Is Corney gonna show?

552
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Speaker 10: But I don't think Corny's gonna show. I think we

553
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 10: should totally do it. I'm here outside of ambest I mean,

554
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Speaker 10: there's lots of people here they'd love to see something

555
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 10: like that. But sadly. You know Cornette, you know, he

556
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 10: could be a guy like us. You know, he's a

557
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Speaker 10: guy who likes to have fun, he likes to tell

558
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Speaker 10: some off color jokes. But he's a guy who is

559
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Speaker 10: the poster child essentially for bending the knee in order

560
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 10: to avoid the left wing cancel mob. You and I

561
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Speaker 10: try to avoid the cancel mob as well, but we

562
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Speaker 10: do it by you know, digging in, staying firm in

563
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Speaker 10: our beliefs, and of course insulating ourselves from being reliant

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Speaker 10: on them.

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Speaker 9: Of course, Jim Cornett is the other kind of guy.

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Speaker 10: I mean, of course we know about his notorious you

567
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Speaker 10: know inward v And look, I'm not trying to cancel

568
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 10: him over, you know, saying the N word back in

569
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 10: the day where like it was flying around. However, look,

570
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Speaker 10: just look back a few years ago, Jim Cornett was

571
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Speaker 10: actually fired by the NWA for saying, quote, this guy

572
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 10: is so tough he'd strap a bucket of fried chicken

573
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Speaker 10: on his back and ride a motor scooter through Ethiopia.

574
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 10: Now does this sound like the kind of guy who

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Speaker 10: should be judging you on your moral compass? Does this

576
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Speaker 10: sound like the guy who should be saying you are

577
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 10: a fascist. Absolutely not. But again, guys like Jim Cornett,

578
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Speaker 10: they have to bend the knee in order to avoid

579
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Speaker 10: cancel culture because of their own skeleton in their closet.

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Speaker 10: It's sad to see, Jim. Jim, you should just be

581
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 10: your true self and you should accept pisodes challenge. I'll

582
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Speaker 10: be a referee, happy to be a guest referee.

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Speaker 6: Boh, the guest referee. I mean, this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about Jim Cornett, who's a washed up carnie

585
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Speaker 1: from the Territory days. Literally, he is the only thing

586
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Speaker 1: that he's still cutting baby face promos from a territory

587
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Speaker 1: that went belly up before most of the audience was born.

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Speaker 6: Jim, you gotta stop. You gotta stop.

589
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Living in the eighties because this guy, I mean pretty much,

590
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: all I gotta do is blow him over.

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Speaker 6: With a little just poof.

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00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna poof and blow him over like a feather,

593
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Speaker 1: and then I will pin his carcass to the mat

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Speaker 1: one two three, as easy as that. I'll even pin

595
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Speaker 1: by the way, And Jim, Jim, just so you know,

596
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Speaker 1: when I pin you, the mattress is going to be

597
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Speaker 1: made of my pillows.

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Speaker 10: I'm just saying, I mean, look at jim you, I mean,

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Speaker 10: jim Sorry Cornett, You're not even in the top ten

600
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 10: of managers all time, you know, in the Wrestling Federation.

601
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Speaker 10: You know, you look at guys like Jimmy Cornell, Jimmy

602
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Speaker 10: Jimmy Hart, excuse me.

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00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 9: You know, guys like Paul Bear, Paul Hayman. You know,

604
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Speaker 9: those are the goliath of ring managers.

605
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Speaker 10: Imagine you, you know, getting escorted to the ring by Tanya,

606
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 10: you know, posso Jimmy.

607
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Speaker 9: Cornett, who's going to be in his corner.

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Speaker 10: It's just sad to see him try to come out

609
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 10: and just defend mcfoley. And again, what mc foley is

610
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 10: doing is also sad. Yeah, young guys in the WWE,

611
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 10: you know, trying to make a living off of what

612
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 10: mcfoley has retired off of. And now mcfoley is trying

613
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Speaker 10: to trash it and you know, destroy it because it's

614
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Speaker 10: advantageous for him when his contract runs out. So garbage

615
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 10: all around. And I'm glad you really got into it

616
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 10: and kind of slammed him to the mat there.

617
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: Look, look you want he wants to try to swing

618
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: his little tennis racket at me. He needs to get

619
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Speaker 1: a little tune up on that tennis racket, Jim, Because

620
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Speaker 1: let me tell you something.

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Speaker 6: You swing that tennis racket at me, you're gonna miss.

622
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Speaker 1: The thing is loose, it's gonna fall apart, and then boom,

623
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Speaker 1: I'm hitting you with what the post so finature, the

624
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: Posto truth bomb. I'm hitting you with that Posto truth bomb,

625
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go down harder than Andre the Giant

626
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: up in Pontiac, Michigan.

627
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Speaker 6: All Right, it's gonna be.

628
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Speaker 1: Done, and then you're gonna be on the mat one

629
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Speaker 1: two three. This guy, he is a mid card manager

630
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: at best. He's sitting there with the mid card marks,

631
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: talking like, Oh, I'm gonna be so big on my

632
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Speaker 1: podcast where I get my five thousand views, I get

633
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Speaker 1: my five thousand views, It's gonna be so great. Do

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Speaker 1: they even have any money, your marks, Jim? Do they

635
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: even have any cash any dime? Look, I could get

636
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: more heat off of one tweet, off of one post

637
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: than you've gotten in the last fifteen years, Jimmy corny,

638
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: last fifteen years. And by the way, I will lose

639
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: more money than you've made in the last decade, all right,

640
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: and I won't even care.

641
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Speaker 6: I'll just puff. I won't poof, I'll just get rid

642
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 6: of it. It's as simple as that.

643
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: RCI talk to me about Mfest, talked about how people

644
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Speaker 1: are coming to our event. We got the top billing

645
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: in the entire country. Jim Cornette hasn't seen the arena

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Speaker 1: like this in decades. That's another thing. There's another thing

647
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Speaker 1: he hasn't seen in decades either, by the way, No.

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Speaker 10: I mean Jim Cornett has been drawing a crowd like

649
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 10: this since he was kind of reliant on Yokazuma for

650
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Speaker 10: his clout.

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Speaker 9: M Fast.

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Speaker 10: Look, there's thirty thousand attendees this year, which is quite literally,

653
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Speaker 10: you know, ten twelve thousand more than we had last year.

654
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Speaker 10: You know, you got four hundred media organizations. It's just

655
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Speaker 10: going to be an all out unity fest, hopefully not

656
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Speaker 10: just that, also a strategy fest. You know, you have

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Speaker 10: guys who are headliners, Scott Pressler, Cliff Maloney who are

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Speaker 10: going to be giving breakout sessions along with other organizations

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Speaker 10: Moms for Liberty, College, Republicans of America. So look, this

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Speaker 10: is a strategy session days long. It's not just a conference,

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Speaker 10: but also it's kind of a little bit of a concert.

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Speaker 10: You know, you have your musical artist, of course, country

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Speaker 10: artists performing. You have a huge faith component, some faith

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Speaker 10: artists that are performing. You even have a eucharistic celebration.

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Speaker 10: I heard that you're leading on alongside.

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Speaker 6: We'll be there leading it. But I'll be there. I'll

667
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Speaker 6: be there, You'll be the real deal, will be there.

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Speaker 6: Don't worry. But but look, look we're coming up on

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Speaker 6: the break.

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Speaker 1: But I just I just got to add, right, I

671
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Speaker 1: just got to.

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Speaker 6: Add to this guy, to Corny. Look, Jim Cornette, I

673
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Speaker 6: am the new breed. You are the old, washed up breed.

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Speaker 1: I am a shoot fighter in a work world, and

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Speaker 1: I'm calling my shot right now.

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Speaker 6: Any format, any platform, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a podcast or the parking lot. Jim,

678
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Speaker 1: I don't care. You are done, You're washed up. Your

679
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Speaker 1: entire world is over. And I'll tell you right now.

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Speaker 1: Posso has left the building. Jim Cornett has been left behind.

681
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Speaker 1: Be right back, Jack Pisobic Human Events Daily. You'll catch

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Speaker 1: me in R C. Maxwell and all the rest of

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Speaker 1: us at Amfest this weekend. Jim Cornett couldn't even afford

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Speaker 1: a ticket. But don't worry, Jimmy, if you want to

685
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Speaker 1: come if you want to come by your flight.

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Speaker 6: I hope you don't mind writing.

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Speaker 3: Coach Jack is a great guy. He's written that fantastic

688
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Speaker 3: book and everybody's.

689
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Speaker 9: Talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Go get it that. He's been my friend right from the.

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Speaker 1: Beginning of this whole beautiful event, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: turn her around to make our OCTI way to get him.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, all right, Jack pi Cevieck, we're back Live

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 6: We're here in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: And soon we'll be headed over to Phoenix, Arizona for

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Speaker 1: Amfest and see if Jim Cornette ever shows up. But

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Speaker 1: Arsie Maxwell, who's on with us from Red State but

699
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Speaker 1: also a Turning Point Action member.

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Speaker 6: Is there on the ground.

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Speaker 1: He's literally standing outside the doors of the Phoenix Convention

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Speaker 1: Center where Amfest is set to begin. To RCI, I

703
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Speaker 1: believe that early registration has already open.

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Speaker 6: Is that correct?

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Speaker 10: That is correct? People can come now. They had early

706
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Speaker 10: registration yesterday. You know, don't be daunted, not going to be.

707
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Speaker 10: It will be along line, but it does move quickly

708
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Speaker 10: because of course Turning Point staff knows how to get.

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Speaker 9: It done well.

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Speaker 1: And I heard that I know Bricksuit was there yesterday,

711
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Speaker 1: he said, he was checked in in less than ten minutes.

712
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Speaker 1: He said, it was really great. What are we expecting

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Speaker 1: in terms of numbers for the event?

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Speaker 6: Are you able to share any of that yet?

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Speaker 10: Yes, again, I can share it at this point in

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Speaker 10: time that there are thirty thousand attendees that will be here.

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Speaker 10: I mean a thousand of okay, thirty thousand, right, yes,

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Speaker 10: a thousand of them alone or either politicians or they

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Speaker 10: work for politicians. Just to give you a little bit

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Speaker 10: of an insight to you know, the level of the

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Speaker 10: high level of strategic insight from conservatives that will be here. Again,

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Speaker 10: there's Christian organizations, there's Fortune, five hundred companies, four hundred

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Speaker 10: media companies that are also here. There's no other event

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Speaker 10: that quite blends that the types of industry the way

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Speaker 10: that America Fest does, while also really giving everyone a

726
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Speaker 10: voice to kind of be a leader. And of course,

727
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Speaker 10: our leader, Charlie is not here, which is something that

728
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Speaker 10: is certainly felt.

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Speaker 9: Turning Point does a good job with displays.

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Speaker 10: There are quite a bit a bit of good displays

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Speaker 10: about Charlie. But you know, as a member of staff,

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Speaker 10: you know Charlie would always give us a motivational speech

733
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Speaker 10: that would quite literally make us willing to run through

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Speaker 10: a wall to make this conference go off without a hitch.

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Speaker 10: And Erica delivered that speech yesterday and I'll say she

736
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Speaker 10: did a great job. But of course, you know, we

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Speaker 10: played a Charlie video that did make me tear up.

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Speaker 10: It's hard to deny and not to acknowledge the void

739
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Speaker 10: that's left by Charlie, who was quite literally the best

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Speaker 10: among us. But you know, we're all doing the best

741
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Speaker 10: we can and certainly, you know Turning Point.

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Speaker 9: We feel the support.

743
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Speaker 10: We feel the support from the donor organizations, from sponsors,

744
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Speaker 10: and from the size of this event. And our goal,

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Speaker 10: of course is to continue the legacy of Charlie and

746
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Speaker 10: make sure that it's something that people will talk about

747
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Speaker 10: and it's something that people I want to come back

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Speaker 10: to you next year. I also have another interesting stat

749
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Speaker 10: Jack that I could share with you. Over eighty percent

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Speaker 10: of people this is their first time at a Turning

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Speaker 10: Point event.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's we've been going to.

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Speaker 1: I had been at some like regional smaller events with

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Speaker 1: for Turning Point down Florida, New Jersey, some other spots

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Speaker 1: ASU you know, throughout the last couple of weeks, the

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Speaker 1: last couple of months since Charlie's assassination, And one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I've noticed as well is that you're

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Speaker 1: right that more and more people are showing up saying

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Speaker 1: this is my first turning point event. I've never been

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Speaker 1: a turning point before, but I heard about it and

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Speaker 1: I want to be a part of it, and so.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: This sold out within minutes, you know, really of us

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Speaker 1: putting it up, and I could see attendeesk and workers

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Speaker 1: coming in behind you there for infest.

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Speaker 6: And speak to me a little bit about.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I said in the opening here of

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Speaker 1: the whole show that the worst thing we could possibly

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Speaker 1: do for Charlie's legacy would be to quit and close

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Speaker 1: up shop and shut down operations, because that wasn't what

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Speaker 1: Charlie was about.

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Speaker 10: No, Charlie was about scratching and clawing for every last vote,

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Speaker 10: every last potential donor whatever department you were with was

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Speaker 10: turning point.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 10: He certainly motivated you to do all you can, you know, certainly, Jack,

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Speaker 10: we've noticed how you've stepped up in a big way

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Speaker 10: and how you've really embodied that, and that's what we've

779
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Speaker 10: all really tried to do on a micro.

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Speaker 9: Scale as well, is do a little bit more.

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Speaker 10: And of course, you know, we've always thought that this

782
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Speaker 10: mission was important, but when we consider that after the

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Speaker 10: martyrdom of Charlie Kirk, this mission is even more important.

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Speaker 10: You know, everything we've done is ten times more important,

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Speaker 10: which means we really all have to kind of dig

786
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Speaker 10: deep and do all we can, not just in terms

787
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Speaker 10: of effort that we put out, but also in terms

788
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Speaker 10: of showing grace to the opposition, to some of our enemies,

789
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Speaker 10: figuring out a way to persuade in the way that

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Speaker 10: Charlie did. And that's why he was really the best

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Speaker 10: of us. It's because he would really he'd always have

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Speaker 10: the words, and he'd always have the decorum, he'd always

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Speaker 10: know the appropriate way to respond to anything.

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Speaker 9: And you know, we're all trying to get there like Charlie.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: And look, Charlie, it's you can't talk about turning Point

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Speaker 1: without talking about Charlie kirkha I mean, they're almost synonymous.

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Speaker 1: And in a way, you know, I could get very

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Speaker 1: metaphysical with this, in the sense that you know, Charlie

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Speaker 1: has it, I will, you know what, I just will

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Speaker 1: because look, Charlie's a believer.

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Speaker 6: We're all believers.

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Speaker 1: Fine, Charlie physically has left us, but Charlie spiritually is

804
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Speaker 1: still with us, and Charlie's spirit still lives on we

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Speaker 1: as Christians, we believe that Charlie spirit is in heaven

806
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Speaker 1: right now with his heavenly Father, with his Creator, with

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Speaker 1: the King of the universe.

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Speaker 6: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: And what's interesting, though, is that his spirit still animates

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Speaker 1: the organization that he left behind, and that organization is

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Speaker 1: Turning Point USA.

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Speaker 6: So in a very metaphysical.

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Speaker 1: Sense, not a physical sense, but in a metaphysical sense,

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Speaker 1: as long as Turning Point is still going, as long

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Speaker 1: as Turning Point is still strong, as long as the

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Speaker 1: Republic is still standing, then Charlie Kirk's fight is still

817
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Speaker 1: with us, and that the Charlie Kirk spirit. I like that,

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Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk spirit will never die as long as

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Speaker 1: we don't let it die.

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Speaker 6: Sorry to get a little theological on a Friday, but

821
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Speaker 6: sometimes you have to, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 10: You absolutely have to, and I think that's absolutely spot on.

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Speaker 10: We think of the ways that you try to. Of course,

824
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Speaker 10: remember Charlie, the things you try to I mean I

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Speaker 10: know in my home I have on both sides of

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Speaker 10: my office I have amnto to Charlie in one of

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Speaker 10: his quotes. And certainly, sometimes when I'm under the gun

828
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Speaker 10: and so many things happening, I feel stressed, I feel anxious,

829
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Speaker 10: or you know, there's big headlines coming. I look at

830
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Speaker 10: that and I dig a little bit deeper. So that's

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Speaker 10: just an example of the way Charlie Spirit lives on.

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Speaker 10: And certainly those of us who are Christian, which is

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Speaker 10: of course many of us, you know, we we feel

834
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Speaker 10: Charlie around us. We feel Charlie telling us that what

835
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Speaker 10: we're doing to fight for his legacy is the right

836
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Speaker 10: thing to do. And you know, if we're feeling that,

837
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Speaker 10: I can only imagine what the Kirk family is feeling.

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Speaker 10: And with Erica, of course taking over duties, you know

839
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Speaker 10: she's not you know, she's not she's not hiding. You know,

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Speaker 10: she's not just appearing to take over duty. She's quite

841
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 10: literally in meetings, you see her. You know, we see her.

842
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Speaker 10: We've seen her at the convention center, we've seen her

843
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Speaker 10: at headquarters. So when you see Erica taking on Charlie spirit,

844
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Speaker 10: of course in that way, it's just a no brainer

845
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Speaker 10: for all of us to follow suit, because we are

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Speaker 10: one hundred percent behind Erica. And you know, we know

847
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Speaker 10: that Charlie's decision and his wishes to you know, have

848
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Speaker 10: Erica lead this organization so far has been a great decision.

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Speaker 6: No, Erica is the right person. And I've said this

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Speaker 6: from the start.

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Speaker 1: Erica is the right person to be the leader, because

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Speaker 1: that's what Charlie wanted, and Charlie chose Erica. It's really

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Speaker 1: as simple as that. Charlie chose Erica. That's all you

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Speaker 1: have to say. And look, obviously, and Eric would be

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Speaker 1: the first one to say that she is not Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Of course, no one's saying that. But the point is,

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Speaker 1: this is someone who's got the strength, who's got the

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Speaker 1: resilience and has been It sounds cliche when I say this,

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Speaker 1: but she if she had not stepped up when she had,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Turning Point would would have been

861
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Speaker 1: able to weather the storm of those first couple weeks,

862
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Speaker 1: the hardest possible weeks. And I remember I was there,

863
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Speaker 1: you were there, we were all there, and everyone was

864
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Speaker 1: just had been rocked, just emotionally, spiritually, physically, at their limits,

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Speaker 1: and it was Erica it was Erica who in her

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Speaker 1: strength carried everyone forward, and people.

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Speaker 6: Said, you know what, if Erica can do it, we

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Speaker 6: can do it.

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Speaker 1: And if for all the guys around, right, for all

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Speaker 1: the guys around, that's your duty.

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Speaker 6: To step up because one of your when one of

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Speaker 6: your one of.

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Speaker 1: Your brothers goes down, that's what you just do. It's

874
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Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You gotta you just got to

875
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Speaker 1: step up and do what needs to be done for

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Speaker 1: the family, for those left behind. And there's no questions

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Speaker 1: about it, there's no conversations that need to be had.

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Speaker 6: You just do what you gotta do. Arthen Maxwell, where

879
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Speaker 6: can people value your brother?

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Speaker 10: Follow me on X, follow Red State on X, and

881
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Speaker 10: of course follow both Turning Point USA and Turning Point

882
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Speaker 10: Action this weekend during America Fest.

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Speaker 6: All right, we'll be there. I'll see you soon.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'll get in a little bit later tonight. Jack

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Speaker 1: Pisobick signing off from the East coast of the Republic,

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Speaker 1: traveling to infest Phoenix, Arizona, Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA.

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Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to

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Speaker 6: lay shore