00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, you're our presences. Presents enough. 00:00:31 Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how. 00:00:35 Speaker 1: Do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:50 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. We're here in the studio. I've consumed a decent amount of caffeine and I still feel just like I woke up my phone made a weird noise last night at about two thirty am. So I'm slightly tired. But don't let that change your plans. Just keep going about your day as you would, and I'll just suffer, always suffering. Oh I lost well. Speaking of suffering, I've lost two watches in about five years, same watches, which is tough. The only real common denominator is that life is very cruel, I suppose, and I ordered a third watch, and we'll try to hold on to that for a little longer. If they're thirty dollars a piece, so you know, I'm bleeding money. What else is going on? Big night? Last night? Actually, we finished season two of Little House on the Prairie huge episode. Charles lost everything to a tornado, and for some reason, that was the final straw. I'll leave it at that. You'll just have to watch and see if they keep staying at the farm, or if they move on, or if there's a divorce, or you know, anything could happen on Little House on the Prairie. I have nothing left to say. Have I told you recently that we have merch at exactly right store dot com? If I haven't, now I have a big deal. Let's get into the podcast. Today's guest is absolutely fantastic. It's Carin Wells Krinn. 00:02:24 Speaker 4: Welcome to I said, no kid, Oh, thank you so much for having me. 00:02:27 Speaker 3: Oh, it's so nice to see you. I saw you about a month ago. 00:02:31 Speaker 4: Now at where were we were at Black Cat? 00:02:34 Speaker 3: Black Cat sitting at sort of a picnic bench, at a. 00:02:37 Speaker 4: Picnic bench outside. It was late, it was very dark. 00:02:40 Speaker 3: They are terrible lighting. 00:02:42 Speaker 4: It's really bad lighting for people who are not. 00:02:44 Speaker 3: Aware of Black Cat. It's kind of a barish restaurant in Silver Lake, California, with picnic benches outside and zero outdoor. 00:02:53 Speaker 4: Lighting, no lighting whatsoever. And maybe they're leaning into the black of the Black cat. 00:02:59 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's a by It feels darker out there than like when you go camping. 00:03:03 Speaker 4: Yes, it does. It's like void of light. 00:03:06 Speaker 3: Yes, despite being in the middle of a big city. Yeah, so you're just kind of sitting there shivering on a bench. Is this a good advertisement for black cattle Bag? 00:03:14 Speaker 4: A great drinks, really good wine. 00:03:19 Speaker 3: Selection, excellent wine selection. It doesn't matter if you can see your friend. 00:03:24 Speaker 4: No, just as long as you get the glass to your mouth. 00:03:27 Speaker 3: Who cares around that picnic bench and have the time of your life. What have you been up to? 00:03:33 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, the holidays just wrapped up. I was in Europe for three weeks. 00:03:38 Speaker 3: Oh where did you go in Europe? 00:03:40 Speaker 4: I went to Brussels, Amsterdam, Vienna, Munich, Paris, in London. 00:03:43 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Were you traveling by train? Yes? 00:03:46 Speaker 4: By train? Oh yeah? 00:03:47 Speaker 3: Was this a first for you? 00:03:48 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah it was. It was wonderful. It was perfect. Everyone should do it. 00:03:53 Speaker 3: Three weeks? Now, how much were you? How much time are you in each city? 00:03:57 Speaker 4: Like it varied, but like averaging about three nights. 00:04:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of those cities has to go? Which one is it? 00:04:03 Speaker 4: I hate to do this because I did enjoy myself and all of them. But I think and most people will agree, Brussels could go Brussels. But I love you Belgium. 00:04:13 Speaker 3: Belgium sucks. 00:04:16 Speaker 4: No, I love my Bill. 00:04:18 Speaker 3: The people are rotten, the food is disgusting, the prices are high. I've never been. 00:04:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:04:26 Speaker 4: No, the beer is great. The beer is really good. 00:04:29 Speaker 3: So it's kind of a black Cat of Europe. 00:04:30 Speaker 4: Yes, yes it is. Yes, it is dark. No lights, zeral lights, whatsoever? 00:04:37 Speaker 3: A country devoid of electricity. 00:04:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:04:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, what were the big highlights for you? 00:04:42 Speaker 4: Oh? God, so many things. I met someone in Munich. 00:04:46 Speaker 3: Oh listening, Oh my god, reach out Munich man. 00:04:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was like a we spent like twenty two hours together. 00:04:57 Speaker 3: Very before midnight. 00:04:58 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yeah. 00:05:00 Speaker 3: Did you meet on the train. 00:05:01 Speaker 4: No, we didn't meet on the train. We met on Hinge, which is the train of the Internet. 00:05:06 Speaker 3: It's what I like to say, that should be their new stock, Hinge, the train of the train of the Wow, that's really exciting. Did you go out? Yeah? 00:05:16 Speaker 4: He like so, he like messaged me. I was like, Hey, what do you want to do in Munich? And I like, I was like, this isn't going to be anything. So I told him literally everything I wanted to do, and then he came back with a full itinerary. It's like, meet me here and I will show you around and show you everything you want to see. And I was like, well, you get the draws. 00:05:39 Speaker 3: I'm in a relationship, but I'm going to go on Hinge anytime I go on vacation. Yeah, it's free, it's a free travel agent. 00:05:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it is. He he did a fantastic job. Even if I wasn't attracted him, I I like had a great time. 00:05:51 Speaker 3: I was you would recommend him as a traveler? I would absolutely, was he German? 00:05:56 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:05:56 Speaker 3: And are you still in touch a little bit? Yeah? 00:05:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. We like joke about like, hey, when you come to La. And when I say joke, I mean I'm dead serious, come to La. 00:06:10 Speaker 3: You're buying in flights, you're begging please please, But it's really excited. What did you do together? 00:06:18 Speaker 4: We went to a museum, the Pinko Tech I think is what it's called. It was fun and like museums are very touch and. 00:06:26 Speaker 3: Go when you go on a date, it's a real risk, especially if the person's a bore. 00:06:31 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and he was so fun, so funny. We had a blast at a museum, which is like, how can you say no, one says that right. 00:06:41 Speaker 3: Museums also suck, Yes, yes, as museums are the Belgium of dates. 00:06:49 Speaker 4: Yes, take that. I mean no, they kind of do. They kind of do, especially ones that have ropped from other countries. But we don't have to get into that. He took me to Awesome Kirk, which is like that very like Gothic church. Oh, that's like it looks so beautiful inside. It's just like so ornate in a way that you don't like. Most churches are ornate, but like this one is like they. 00:07:16 Speaker 3: Went too far. 00:07:17 Speaker 4: They did. They just kept doing stuff. They just kept adding gold to stuff. 00:07:22 Speaker 3: That's how those Gothic cathedrals and churches are. It's like you could have stopped like ten steps ago. 00:07:28 Speaker 4: Yes, but they're like, we keep taking money from people, So what else are we going? We gotta we gotta decorate for Jesus. 00:07:40 Speaker 3: Shop, shop shop, It's. 00:07:43 Speaker 4: All for Jesus. It's his birthday every year. Yeah. We went to Christmas markets. 00:07:52 Speaker 3: Oh my god, with Christmas markets so people rent and rave about these. Yeah, what's going on in is it just a farmer's market with a scent of cinnamon in the air. 00:08:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I was a little underwhelmed by because I hit Christmas markets almost everywhere. Vienna very big for Christmas markets. They're just crowded now because everybody's like, I gotta go to Europe for the Christmas markets. I gotta get the glue vine. What glue vine? Which is like muld wine? Oh yeah, yeah, and it's fine. It's fine hot wine. It's hot red wine. It's right, it is like charming. But I think the crowds make it unbearable. 00:08:35 Speaker 3: Right, what did you buy anything? 00:08:38 Speaker 4: No, I from the Christmas markets. Now from the museums. 00:08:41 Speaker 3: Yes, oh interesting, you've kind of zigged when other people say, yeah, what did you buy at the museum? A new T shirt I got. 00:08:49 Speaker 4: I went to almost every like major museum in every city. So in Amsterdam, I went to the Vango Museum and I got a tiny little uh van Go and he like lasted the whole trip with me, and I called him go go. He was like my laboo boo. But then he just broke off of his chain. So I don't carry him around. 00:09:12 Speaker 3: Oh what a shame. He's somewhere in Europe. 00:09:14 Speaker 4: No, No, he's he's with me, he's with you, He's still with me. 00:09:16 Speaker 3: He's just living in my house fish tank or something. 00:09:19 Speaker 4: Yes, I can feed him every day. 00:09:22 Speaker 3: Okay, you've got a van go mini ven. 00:09:25 Speaker 4: I got some magnets. I got a lot of pins. 00:09:29 Speaker 3: Pins. 00:09:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got like pins from museums that like have like a big like art piece, like. I got a Mona Lisa. I got the Kiss because I went to the museum in Vienna that has the Kiss and some other stuff. 00:09:43 Speaker 3: Now you so you went to the louver. Was there any residual damage from the thieves. 00:09:49 Speaker 4: No? 00:09:50 Speaker 3: Wow, they really cleaned that. 00:09:51 Speaker 4: They really did. They really did. No one was on strike, everyone was working. I was like, well, yeah, I was like, okay, bounce back. 00:10:02 Speaker 3: What happened? They like threw a ladder up against the side of the building and broke a window. 00:10:05 Speaker 1: I think. 00:10:06 Speaker 4: So, which is the most basic way to rob a place that's. 00:10:10 Speaker 3: You kind of kind of you know, throw people off. They're expecting something complicated at this point. Yes, do it simple, Yes, take it back to basics. 00:10:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, real analog Yeah, exactly, analog thievery. 00:10:20 Speaker 3: In this digital world, you just need a ladder and a hammer. 00:10:22 Speaker 4: That's all. That's all. Yeah, the Louver was stunning. Paris. I thought I wasn't going to like and so I was like, I'm only going to spend two days in Paris. It's not a huge mistake. I loved Paris. 00:10:38 Speaker 3: I loved it wonderful. 00:10:39 Speaker 4: It's so charming, it's so like it's it's like a better New York. 00:10:46 Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of a weirdly a better La. 00:10:49 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:10:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like a super tall city. 00:10:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's not. It's not except for the Eiffel Tower, which again I was like, I'm not going to go to Eiffel Tower. 00:10:59 Speaker 3: What who cares? 00:11:01 Speaker 4: It's just a bunch of steel or or whatever. I got there, I was like, ah, dazzled in the it was like nighttime, it was lit up. I was like, wow, look at goth. 00:11:16 Speaker 2: I was. 00:11:17 Speaker 3: I had that same experience until I saw what was essentially a rat farm at the base of it. 00:11:21 Speaker 4: Well you can't look at the base of it. Well you can't look at the base. 00:11:25 Speaker 3: The postcard should show the base of it. That's a different picture. Yeah, you see the base of the Eiffel Tower and it's swarming with rats. It's not that. Not what you want to see. 00:11:36 Speaker 4: No, it's not very rat it is and I think that is who is making the foods. 00:11:44 Speaker 3: Did you have bad food? 00:11:45 Speaker 4: I didn't. I wasn't blown away. Oh no, I expected it to be better. Surprisingly, Vienna very good food. 00:11:52 Speaker 3: What are you eating in Vienna? 00:11:54 Speaker 4: You know a lot of duck? Actually, okay, because I don't. I don't eat pork or like red meat. 00:12:00 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. 00:12:01 Speaker 4: I did accidentally eat rabbit. Oh that was disgusting. It was really bad. 00:12:06 Speaker 3: I've had one bad experience with rabbit. 00:12:08 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:12:08 Speaker 3: I don't even want to describe how I mean. It was rough. 00:12:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, you taste the fear, that's what it is. 00:12:15 Speaker 3: How did this happen accidentally? 00:12:17 Speaker 4: Well, because I went to I was I was really splurgeon out there. I was doing a lot of chef's tasting many oh wow, and some Michelin star restaurants and so like. I went to this restaurant in Vienna called Duchart unfortunate name. Yeah that's a tough one, yes, but really good food. Though, really good food. 00:12:37 Speaker 3: You have excellent food to overcome. 00:12:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's one of those places where like the chef kind of comes out and it is like, hey, here's what we're doing. And I asked, like the hostess, like with the tasting menu, I was like, does this have any beef on it? I didn't say red meat? Oh, I said beef. I was like, does this have beef for pork? And she was like no. I was like, and that should have been an indicator that there's something. 00:13:03 Speaker 3: On colors of meat. 00:13:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, She's like, oh no, it's not. 00:13:11 Speaker 3: Red what is rabbit? Technically? 00:13:14 Speaker 4: I think it's red meat. 00:13:15 Speaker 3: It's red meat? 00:13:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, is it? 00:13:18 Speaker 3: We don't want to think about it too hard. 00:13:20 Speaker 4: We can't categorize it. We probably shouldn't be eating it. 00:13:23 Speaker 3: It's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. I kind of classified duck as gray meat. 00:13:28 Speaker 4: Oh. Interesting, it's poultry. 00:13:31 Speaker 3: It's poultry. Yeah, but it's kind of a grayness to it. 00:13:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, who's cooking it? I think like duck is duck? Is the pork of poultry? 00:13:42 Speaker 3: Okay? 00:13:43 Speaker 4: Right? How I think of it off white meat? Yeah, it's like an off white like that that rich fanniness to it. 00:13:52 Speaker 2: Right. 00:13:52 Speaker 3: I've only ever had ducks served to me as carnadoes. 00:13:55 Speaker 4: Oh okay, so that sounds it's very good. 00:13:57 Speaker 3: If you go to cacw and Eagle Rock delicious. 00:14:00 Speaker 4: Okay, shout out Coca. 00:14:02 Speaker 3: I guess that's not that gray. Well, oh god, now that's not a very I'm very bad at advertising. 00:14:07 Speaker 4: Restaurants go to Caca for their gray meat. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: No, everyone go to Cacao. It's a delicious Mexican restaurant in Eagle Rock, California. Nothing You'll be served as gray another great slogan for a restaurant. 00:14:25 Speaker 4: Nothing you'll be served is gray. 00:14:27 Speaker 3: That was almost a jingle. Nothing you'll be served is gray gray. Okay, So you accidentally ate some rabbit meat, which is unfortunate. Did you enjoy it while you're eating it? 00:14:42 Speaker 4: No? I like immediately knew something was a miss. Oh no, yeah, I was like oh And then I asked and she was like, oh, it's rabbit, and was oh, oh, I don't like to hear the heppen. Yeah. But honestly, the rest of the meal made up for it, and it was so good. 00:14:58 Speaker 3: I feel like there was a moment in the last for years where people were saying, rabbit is going to be the next protein. 00:15:04 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:15:05 Speaker 3: And I think it's just hard to get people on board with rabbits. They're too cute, they're simply just too cute. There's nothing you can say about a rabbit that it's just a. 00:15:14 Speaker 4: It's also little creature, so gamy, it's just so gay, so small. 00:15:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing about that that screams let's turn this into a sandwich. 00:15:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's put it in a taco. It's like rabbit hot dogs. We don't want that. 00:15:31 Speaker 3: I've had a rattlesnake caught dog. Ooh, how was that delicious? Yeah, well, I guess it wasn't brought worst rattlesneak. Now we're just I'm here lies it's sausage, okay, I mean brought worsty at this place called somewhere downtown. I can't remember the name. I probably shouldn't say the name because then I'll say something weird about it and. 00:15:52 Speaker 4: You can't get a lot of phone calls. 00:15:55 Speaker 3: Worst coucha I think that's what it's called cucha. Yeah, saying that horribly, How would you say that with a German accent versus coucha? Yeakay, yeah, that seems if I was saying that, people would be like, this is the most annoying man alive. 00:16:11 Speaker 4: It sounds like worst couchie and that Oh who that's rough, that's wrong. 00:16:18 Speaker 3: What a business that would be? 00:16:22 Speaker 4: I think men would still go of course. 00:16:25 Speaker 3: You would have a line out that. I like the idea of advertising a business. Your the thing you do is serve the worst of something. Yeah, that feels like we should get back to that. Because everyone wants to be doing the best of everything. You have to have excellent reviews. Why not just make the absolute worst version of something as a novelty? 00:16:43 Speaker 4: Yeah? Why yeah? Because isn't that like that place with bad service, Like, what's that? It's like, I know there's one in Vegas and it's obviously no, it's like it's it has its own I don't I don't know what it is. But like their whole thing is like we're going to be rudee and we take your order and it is very just annoying. It's it's it's like, I don't like it. 00:17:10 Speaker 3: I want the rudeness to be natural. Yes, I want the waiter to actually hate me, yes, or hate their job, you know, or just not want to be there with me. Yeah, if they're getting paid to be mean. 00:17:21 Speaker 4: It's it's there is inauthentic. 00:17:24 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, find something deeply wrong with me and then I have a problem. 00:17:29 Speaker 4: With it, Yeah, and then roast me. Yes, then roast me. 00:17:33 Speaker 3: I don't want that going towards your paycheck. Yeah, well, I mean, speaking of rude things, Grin, I was looking forward to having you here on the podcast today. I thought, she'll come by, we'll have a nice chat, we'll catch up, we'll move on. Unfortunately, it seems like that's not going to happen today because the podcast is called I said no gifts, and I'm sitting across the table from you, and I'm looking at three separate gifts. Yeah, all beautifully wrapped. 00:18:01 Speaker 4: Thank you? Yeah, so I my mother always told me never to show up empty handed. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: The amount of mothers that get blamed on this podcast. Yeah, okay, well you want me to open them here? 00:18:12 Speaker 4: I think so? 00:18:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, this is probably embarrassing for you. 00:18:15 Speaker 4: But no, I'm well a little but. 00:18:22 Speaker 3: Oh and you d dropping one that's not embarrassing for me. 00:18:26 Speaker 4: Thank goodness. It's durable. 00:18:27 Speaker 3: Oh, this one's dense. 00:18:29 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:18:29 Speaker 3: This one is about the size of like a I would say, like a geara Deli chocolate, but it feels like it's like a pound. It's quite heavy. Should I open these in any order? 00:18:38 Speaker 4: I think smallest, the biggest. 00:18:40 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, we have like the small one, then there's one that's essentially the size of a CD jewel case, and then one that is the size of just a gift. Okay, let's open this first one, the very heavy one. 00:18:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we all sort of go together. 00:18:55 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so it's a little we'll put the clues together as we go. And you've wrapped them really well. 00:19:01 Speaker 4: Thank you trying to. 00:19:02 Speaker 3: Oh, I can always use more of these for Energizer battery. Yes, are they new or used? 00:19:10 Speaker 4: They are new. They are new. They I just buy them in bulk. So I like it, just wrapped four together and. 00:19:15 Speaker 3: Kind of a new design for Energizer. I haven't seen this new logo. 00:19:19 Speaker 4: Yeah they've they're rebranding Web two point zero. 00:19:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, very twenty first century. Yeah, why did you bring batteries? 00:19:27 Speaker 4: Oh well yeah, okay, open We're opening next and open the rest of them. 00:19:32 Speaker 3: Okay, let's see. 00:19:33 Speaker 4: Yes, no, I would like to consider this a biblical text. 00:19:40 Speaker 3: Okay, religious text. Let's see this. Oh my God, brand new by the way, Britney spears Baby one more time, the CD. 00:19:50 Speaker 4: Yes, where did you get this? 00:19:52 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:19:52 Speaker 4: Hey, Papa Amazon? Wow? 00:19:56 Speaker 3: Are they still like, is this something that they're still printing? 00:19:59 Speaker 4: And so I think so or not. I might have bought it used and didn't realize it, and we hope that that's what's in there. I think it is. 00:20:09 Speaker 3: This isn't. Yeah, who knows what. There could be drugs in here. It could be, this could be a whole drug laundering, could be, should be who knows what means? 00:20:17 Speaker 4: Wow? 00:20:18 Speaker 3: Okay, so I've got that. Should I open the next thing? Okay? 00:20:20 Speaker 4: Wow? 00:20:20 Speaker 3: This is I mean, I in heaven already, and look at this beautiful of the lore ribbon. 00:20:27 Speaker 4: It is a lore and I made this form my juicy coutor outfit. 00:20:32 Speaker 3: You made that. Oh I was going to just throw everything and just talk about that for the next hour. Now, okay, let's see opening. Oh my god, this is an. 00:20:46 Speaker 5: Incredible gift day. It's a CD player. This is unbelievable. This is very very gen Z. This is I've been told, this is you know, gen Z Central. Everyone wants a CD player at this. 00:21:01 Speaker 3: Point, and look at me. I didn't have to buy Wow. Wow, Okay, I don't even know where to begin. Tell me why you brought it all? 00:21:09 Speaker 4: Okay, So I the very first gift that I remember getting for myself, like not for myself, but like getting for Christmas was a CD player and it was like the best thing right that anyone could have ever gotten me. It became my entire personality, which I'm sure everyone in my age felt that way. And then Baby One More Time was the first CD I bought for myself. Oh so I was like, do. 00:21:37 Speaker 3: You remember where you bought it? 00:21:38 Speaker 4: I bought it at Sam's Club. 00:21:40 Speaker 3: Which kind of the Walmart version of Costco. 00:21:43 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, Yeah, Yeah. 00:21:45 Speaker 3: What was what CDs were given to you when you got the CD player? 00:21:48 Speaker 4: There was a Brian mcnight CD that was just a single of a song that wasn't popular at all. 00:21:57 Speaker 3: That's a tough one. 00:21:58 Speaker 4: It was really tough. I didn't like that one. But then my dad had like, remember like the Scholastics for CDs, whereas like you you got like this form and then you like filled out the CDs you want it and then sent in a check with it and they sent you CDs. 00:22:16 Speaker 3: Is that kind of like the Columbia House? Yes, like that. 00:22:21 Speaker 4: So he would do that and he got me the Braxton's which is Tony Braxton's sisters. They had a treo. 00:22:28 Speaker 3: I had no idea she had sisters or that they were competing with her? Is she in the bread? 00:22:33 Speaker 5: Now? 00:22:34 Speaker 4: She had already she had already had like started her career. But is Tamar uh? 00:22:43 Speaker 3: And then the other two stuff for the bread? 00:22:45 Speaker 4: And then the other two I think one of them passed away. 00:22:50 Speaker 3: Dark turn I know. 00:22:53 Speaker 4: Oh, I feel so bad because they all start with tea to Wanda and then another one let's say Tammy. Yeah, let's say Tammy. We'll call her Tammy for that. Wow. 00:23:06 Speaker 3: I had no idea. And did they all start out at the same time as Tony? And then Tony was like, forget it, I'm moving on. 00:23:12 Speaker 4: Well, if you watch like the made for TV movie about Tony wish I will, they like started in church together, okay, and then she got introduced to Babyface. Oh yeah, but her sisters were also like trying to get into it. But Babyface kind of. 00:23:29 Speaker 3: Was wanted nothing to do with Tony. 00:23:32 Speaker 4: Let's just focus on Tony and then you guys maybe later. But honestly, the Braxton CD really top to bottom underrated singing because Tamar honestly a better singer than Tony Broxton interested both of them incredible, but Tamar vocally range wise like she's. 00:23:50 Speaker 3: Oh this is and it's hard to hear she you know, Tony cheated her out of a career. 00:23:55 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, she still has something. 00:23:57 Speaker 3: Oh she does doing casinos. 00:23:59 Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, yeah, she just did. 00:24:02 Speaker 3: Which yea moha. 00:24:05 Speaker 4: No, they did like a waiting twix hail, like thirtieth anniversary or something. Tony Braxon has a song on that soundtrack. Tamar does it. But I think Tamar did the concert. 00:24:19 Speaker 3: Oh Tamar, I have some self respect. What is she doing? Sing your own songs? 00:24:28 Speaker 4: She does? She does have her own songs. She just got you have to find them. 00:24:32 Speaker 3: She's really good, Tamar. My apologies, I'm sure it's but you know, I just I feel for you, you know, to have a sibling kind of outshine you, and you know, it's hard to unbreak my heart. It's hard to overcome. 00:24:47 Speaker 4: It's hard to beat that. 00:24:49 Speaker 3: You know. That's Tony got that number down and it's like, forget it. Sisters, yeah, yeah, are they all younger than her? 00:24:56 Speaker 4: Tamar younger than her, but I think. 00:24:58 Speaker 3: The other two are forty years older than her. 00:25:00 Speaker 4: They are there is like a significant I don't think significant, but they are older. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know. 00:25:08 Speaker 3: What's Tony doing. She can't go to the Waiting to Exhale concert. 00:25:11 Speaker 4: What a great question, Tony, What are you doing? Where is she? I think she's well, okay, I think she's well, Okay, she just was busy. 00:25:19 Speaker 3: I think so she doesn't feed into these nostalgia. 00:25:22 Speaker 4: Gigs, which, honestly, that's where the money's at. 00:25:25 Speaker 3: It is absolutely Yeah, if you're I mean, if you're not a current person, just play the old hits. Yes, do the whole album. 00:25:32 Speaker 4: Don't give us anything new. I don't want anything new from you. 00:25:37 Speaker 3: Also satisfying artistic path. Yeah, okay, so you got the Braxtons. 00:25:46 Speaker 4: What other ones Brian McKnight that no one knows? And I think that's that. That was what I got with the CD player. 00:25:55 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I remember. Did you have a video of the plane. 00:26:00 Speaker 4: Crash back at one? Yeah? 00:26:03 Speaker 3: What's the story of that video? Does he? Is he a plane crash survivor? Or is he? 00:26:07 Speaker 4: I think he's just a responder. I don't think he's a part of it at all. 00:26:11 Speaker 3: He's just singing. 00:26:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just like I'm a ghost and I'm walking through it. Maybe he died on it. I a helpful guy. No, everybody's like on fire, and he's just. 00:26:23 Speaker 3: Like still he's focused on his career. 00:26:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's been. He's been in the news lately. Oh no, yeah, well like he had a very tumultuous divorce. Oh and now you know every everyone has a podcast, and he's he's been on a podcast talking about it, and then his ex wife has been on a podcast talking about it, and they're both coming. 00:26:47 Speaker 3: For Are you team ex wife or team Bryant? I'm team no one pick a side, can't pick a I'm ex wife about it. 00:26:55 Speaker 4: I'm probably ex wife as well. But I love Brian mcnight's voice. That's but he's a tough character at this point. Yeah. 00:27:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, we hate to hear it, Brian. We play the hits. 00:27:07 Speaker 4: Just play the hits. Stop talking and play the hits. Sing the hits, play the piano. 00:27:12 Speaker 3: Okay, So then you thought my first CD is going to be Brittany and you got this classic album? 00:27:18 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:27:19 Speaker 3: And did you continue to be a Britney Spears fan for years to come? 00:27:21 Speaker 4: I did? I did? 00:27:23 Speaker 3: When did you drop off with Brittany or you're still a Brittany fan? 00:27:26 Speaker 4: I dropped off. M that's a really good question. I think I'm kind of still a Brittany fan, just not as like I wasn't as hardcore as time went on, because she was just putting out problem and I was like, this is too much. Also, I don't know what your point of view is anymore, because she's always had a point of view. 00:27:45 Speaker 3: She has a crystal clear point of. 00:27:47 Speaker 4: Very clear is a point of it is a point of view. What an incredible song? 00:27:57 Speaker 3: Honestly is an incredible piece of music? It's dated in such a gorgeous way, heartbreaking, Yes, email my heart. 00:28:05 Speaker 4: It's soulful, yes, what does it even mean? 00:28:09 Speaker 3: What doesn't mean? 00:28:11 Speaker 4: It's like it's like digital get down for in sync? 00:28:14 Speaker 3: That one is a little that's a raunchy number to be singing as a child. 00:28:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was saying it, I was seeing it. 00:28:23 Speaker 3: That one was before you could really be online even Yeah. So if the digital of it all was a little. 00:28:30 Speaker 4: Future it they were ahead of their time. 00:28:32 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Brittany is just emailing Britney Spears at yahoo dot com. She had she probably did. I wonder if Britney Spears ever had an email address, or if she does currently she feels like someone that never needed one or will need one. Yeah, I'm sure all that's handled for her. 00:28:52 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:28:53 Speaker 3: I doubt she's getting in Gmail and firing off emails to people. But maybe I'm wrong. 00:28:56 Speaker 4: She might be. 00:28:57 Speaker 3: She had to sign up for that Instagram account. Yeah, need a new email address for that. 00:29:01 Speaker 4: Yes, you do. You need an email. 00:29:03 Speaker 3: So there is a Britney Spears email out there somewhere. 00:29:06 Speaker 4: And we're gonna find it. We're gonna crack it today. 00:29:09 Speaker 3: We'll go through every possibility. I'll start emailing that. 00:29:12 Speaker 4: Let's email my heart. Do you take all the h's, I take all the Gmail. 00:29:19 Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll probably beat all of these email addresses because the people just email. Do you have a favorite Britney Spears song? 00:29:32 Speaker 4: Oh boy, I would probably have to say Circus. Oh yeah, what album is that? 00:29:40 Speaker 3: What's that called again? 00:29:42 Speaker 4: Isn't it? Oh? 00:29:44 Speaker 3: But there is one called Circus? And then what's the one before that? Something about lights. It's a really good one. 00:29:51 Speaker 4: Let me see here, and this might be around the time I fell off. 00:29:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, see this is uh. 00:29:56 Speaker 4: Black Blackout came out? 00:29:58 Speaker 3: Blackout? Yeah, Blackout's the really underrated one. 00:30:01 Speaker 4: Yes, it is very underrated. She has a song with the Yiang Twins on that. 00:30:04 Speaker 3: That was kind of like her comeback ish. 00:30:07 Speaker 4: Chef, and then I'm thinking in the Zone, in. 00:30:10 Speaker 3: The zone, now in the Zone is toxic? Right? I mean which I think? Is that easily her best song? 00:30:17 Speaker 4: It's yes, It's. 00:30:19 Speaker 3: One of those songs where it's just like wow, I can't believe this thing came to that video? Oh the video making of the video? Why don't we have those? 00:30:27 Speaker 4: Because TV died. 00:30:30 Speaker 3: It's such a shame. 00:30:32 Speaker 4: Yeah it is. 00:30:32 Speaker 3: I wonder if you can stream making of the video anyway. 00:30:35 Speaker 4: I think a lot of MTV stuff is like you can't what a shame. It really is upsetting. I tried to look up like old trls and like they'll have a couple online, but like they never show the videos with them. 00:30:50 Speaker 3: Oh because of licensing is yes. 00:30:52 Speaker 4: Because Vivo owns everything. 00:30:53 Speaker 3: Now okay, we've got to take this company down. 00:30:56 Speaker 4: Well, I support they have you know how like when you get a smart TV, whether it's like Samsung or like whatever, that TV has its own Like. 00:31:08 Speaker 3: Chan's like yeah, it's like own Apple TV is thing. 00:31:12 Speaker 4: So I have a Samsung TV and there is a Vivo channel for all nineties music videos, and that is just kind of what my TV is. 00:31:20 Speaker 3: Oh that sounds great, it's so nice. This is a great advertisement for Samsung. 00:31:24 Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, I want to. 00:31:26 Speaker 3: Get that va. I yeah, because there's really no place except I mean, obviously YouTube can watch music videos, but it's nice. Part of the fun of music videos is just them rolling yea video to video. Another thing I miss is pop up videos. You remember those? Yeah? 00:31:40 Speaker 4: I remember. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: Someone has got to stand up and take ownership of these things and put them in some sort of Maybe it's the Library of Congress. Yeah, that sounded so weird going through my brain. The Library of Congress should stand up and say pop up video making of we're going to protect you. 00:31:56 Speaker 4: I think all of I think all of MTV should be protected, and all of the h one. 00:32:01 Speaker 3: It's just kind of vanished into digital sayings. 00:32:03 Speaker 4: Because like, I love the nineties, I love the eighties that whole. 00:32:07 Speaker 3: I think it's well documented at this point that we all love both of those decades. Yes, and probably we were talking early thousands too. Yes, people love to feel the warmth of nostalgia. 00:32:16 Speaker 4: Nostalgia is a hell of a drum it certainly, it's really like addictive. 00:32:22 Speaker 3: It's uh yeah, I wonder if I'm going to try to track down some of this making up. I want. I can't imagine they've aged very well. 00:32:29 Speaker 4: Yeah well yeah, no, I mean instincts bye bye bye. Probably was fine. 00:32:34 Speaker 3: Oh I remember that making of very clearly. 00:32:36 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:32:36 Speaker 4: And then Christina Aguilera has come on over was my favorite one? 00:32:39 Speaker 3: What is that? One's just kind of a house party. 00:32:42 Speaker 4: Yes, in different colors. It's like different, it's like moving sets. It's like very say my name, Oh, but a party instead of fucking right? 00:32:52 Speaker 3: Oh? Interesting? Yeah, so she just ripped them off. Just say it, she ripped them off. She's a thief. 00:32:59 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:33:00 Speaker 4: Wow? 00:33:01 Speaker 3: Does she still make music or she was on the voice, Yes. 00:33:05 Speaker 4: She was doing the voice. She's she's she throws a Halloween party every year. 00:33:09 Speaker 3: Okay, I know that interesting career move. I know that she's kind of become an Elvira type. 00:33:13 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:33:14 Speaker 3: Interesting, seems like Christina aguilar could still have some sort of yeah relevant. 00:33:20 Speaker 4: I think she does. I think she does like still do like shell like pop pop on stage and sing in some places. And she did when when the Mulan came out, the live action Mulan came out, she re recorded reflection. 00:33:33 Speaker 3: Oh okay, boring. 00:33:39 Speaker 4: Sorry ill. 00:33:47 Speaker 3: She was always just slight three steps behind Brittany. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: You know, I think comparing Brittany and Christina is like comparing Prince and Michael interesting because they are different. They're different artists, very different voices, very different voices doing very different things. Right, But we in our brains put them in the same boxes because like we were told to. 00:34:13 Speaker 3: But like if you put people against each other. 00:34:16 Speaker 4: If you look at their body of work, though, it's very different, very specific to them, right, and I will write an entire dissertation. 00:34:24 Speaker 3: No, I believe this. I feel like Brittany is a much more I think Christine is a little bit looser, yeah, a little bit more organic or something. I mean that's all relative, of course, but Brittany is a much more compact. 00:34:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, Brittany's more of a product product, yes, yes, more of an object. But like the name Britney Spears is more of like a it's it's, it's, it's it's become its own entity. And also even just as a performer, like Brittany is a dancer, dancing, you know. 00:34:57 Speaker 3: Kind of the same way that Michael was a dancer, yes, yeah, I'm more of a Prince person. If we're pitting them against each other, and I'm happy to I think Prince is better. 00:35:07 Speaker 4: Hey, I love that for you. I love that for you. I love both of them. I'm more of a Michael girl. 00:35:13 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah, yeah, I. 00:35:15 Speaker 4: Think just mused is his music just resonated with me a little bit more? 00:35:20 Speaker 3: Okay, big mistake on your part. 00:35:22 Speaker 4: Well, I guess we fight now. 00:35:25 Speaker 3: But you're obviously more of a Brittany than a Christina. 00:35:28 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say obviously. 00:35:30 Speaker 3: You brought me the scene I did. 00:35:31 Speaker 4: That's that's the first one that I bought. 00:35:33 Speaker 3: You went all the way to Sam's Club to get the get it for yourself? 00:35:36 Speaker 2: You did? 00:35:37 Speaker 3: Went to see what was the second seed? 00:35:39 Speaker 4: You bought? Cisco's Unleashed the Dragon. 00:35:41 Speaker 3: Oh, a big one. 00:35:43 Speaker 4: It was another top to bottom and. 00:35:46 Speaker 3: Hit hit hit hit, Well, he fell off the. 00:35:48 Speaker 4: Map, yeah he did. He did. He like put out a second album that didn't do well compared to the first one because it didn't have a single like Thong. 00:35:59 Speaker 3: So I didn't have a novelty. Now, yeah you got. If you have a novelty, it's hard to keep going. 00:36:04 Speaker 4: Yeah it is, but like that first album I think is actually underrated because people only think about the Thong song, right, the. 00:36:13 Speaker 3: Big hit, and then kind of no other songs from it. 00:36:15 Speaker 4: That he had one other single from it called Incomplete, but it was a ballad, and people. 00:36:20 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, to go from the thong song to a ballad, Yes, you've got at least have like a mid tempo number. Yes, next, Yeah, have the ballad be the third single. 00:36:28 Speaker 4: The problem with the rest of the album, though, is that it's so hyper sexual that none of them could be singles. 00:36:35 Speaker 3: None of them. 00:36:36 Speaker 4: Yes and I was thirteen just like living it up. Yeahs yep in the back of my grandma's car, just like yeah, and she like she let me buy like she she let me buy it, and it had a parental advisory warning and she didn't care. 00:36:56 Speaker 3: The parental advisory warning means nothing anymore. People just it's weird to even see it on this stuff. It's like, why did you bother? Yeah, there's nothing as parental advisory anymore. The world is just parental advisory. It's like, well, I don't need you labeling it. 00:37:12 Speaker 4: Also, like kids have access to everything. Yeah, Like if they got Spotify, they're gonna listen. 00:37:16 Speaker 3: To they'll find it, yeah, explicit. Do they have parental controls on Spotify? I wonder? 00:37:22 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm no longer with Spotify. 00:37:24 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, who are you with now? 00:37:26 Speaker 4: A music? 00:37:27 Speaker 3: I'm currently with Apple Music. I'm bouncing from streaming service to streaming service. Wishing I just had CDs, YEP or just my iPod. Yeah, I still have two old iPods that if I were to fix them, I think I would be gold. 00:37:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's that's fun. 00:37:44 Speaker 3: Fixing them would probably be a huge hassle. Yeah, then where am I getting the MP three's? They've got us all trapped? 00:37:51 Speaker 4: They do? They do which against the wall? I think, like, we really do need to bring back physical media. Oh, I'm right there with Yeah, even VHS. I don't even want a DVD. 00:38:01 Speaker 3: Give me h, well, now you've gone too far. 00:38:03 Speaker 4: Give me a VHS VHS. I it would be sooner if I could find like a way to do it. They're so like all TVs. 00:38:14 Speaker 3: You can't oh yeah, getting a VCR and then connecting. 00:38:17 Speaker 4: It to a newt a VCR. They just you need like a very specific converter for like a smart TV, and. 00:38:24 Speaker 3: Then it probably looks like garbage the house. Yeah, just like for what so that can have horrible picture quality, that's not worth it. It's a blu ray. 00:38:36 Speaker 4: Why so I can watch like a director's commentary. No, thank you. 00:38:41 Speaker 3: You're very active on letterbox. 00:38:47 Speaker 4: I actually did just start like getting more active. 00:38:50 Speaker 3: Oh are you doing reviews? 00:38:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, like I'm going to try to do a movie a day, wow a day. Yah. 00:38:57 Speaker 3: What have you watched recently? 00:38:58 Speaker 4: I'm in my like nineties black rom combat well rom com slash dramas. So like I watched Love Jones, I watched Boomerang, which is an incredible movie. 00:39:12 Speaker 3: Who's Boomerang? 00:39:13 Speaker 4: That's Eddie Murphy. Oh wow yeah yeah. In the first ten minutes we do get some transphobic stuff. It was nineteen ninety two. But after that, man, really good movie. Like it's very well written and very funny. 00:39:26 Speaker 3: What is the premise of Boomerang? 00:39:27 Speaker 4: So he is like this this womanizer who works in marketing for like this women's like lifestyle brands sort of like perfume. They do perfume and stuff, and he's like the head of marketing. He's like this bad boy. He's like a bad boy of marketing. He he's like a womanizer, like women throw themselves over him. And then Robin Gibbons comes in and kind of reverses the roles and like he becomes very head over heels for her, and she plays him out like she'll she'll, she'll leave him alone. She's like yeah. And then Holly Berry is in it, a very young Holly Berry. Yeah. Yeah. Martin Lawrence is in it. It's really good. She's in it, and she is like this like dough wide creative director. Her and Eddie Murphy become friends, and she's kind of like the antithesis of Robin Gibbons, and so he's kind of like stuck in between, like I really want to try to date Robin and yeah, and then I won't tell you what happens. 00:40:26 Speaker 3: Why is it called boomerang because he's like he's throwing back and forth. 00:40:31 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:40:31 Speaker 4: Also, Earth the kids in it, and wow, it's such It's like a very small role but so good. And Grace Jones is in it. 00:40:40 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just got to see Grace Jones at the Bowl. 00:40:44 Speaker 4: Oh cool. 00:40:45 Speaker 3: Was one of the coolest people alive. Yeah still yeah, crazy to be that cool. 00:40:50 Speaker 4: I'm so jealous. I had two friends that went to that show and they were like blown away. 00:40:54 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's just like wow, what a presence. Yeah, like a being. 00:40:58 Speaker 4: And in that movie she is absolutely that. Like there's a scene where she's just like in a in a very fancy restaurant, yelling, look at my pussy, look at my I mean, according to her now it's the best spot. But yeah, it's she has like this thick French accent. It's so funny. 00:41:22 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm excited to watch. 00:41:24 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:41:25 Speaker 3: So you're logging a review a day. How long are these reviews? 00:41:28 Speaker 4: Very short? Two sentences. I'm not getting into detail. 00:41:31 Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's nice. 00:41:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like, hey, here's the vibe. I watched Jungle Fever. Wow, Spike Lee joint that is, I'm gonna say, not good. 00:41:41 Speaker 3: I feel like God blessed Spike Lee. 00:41:43 Speaker 4: Is. 00:41:44 Speaker 3: You know, when he's good, he's good, and then you know he's maybe because he just made so many movies. Yes, you're gonna have some misses. 00:41:49 Speaker 4: Which you've got to respect that he was putting out movies. He loves to make them, Yeah, and he loves to put himself in them. Just okay, but yeah, that one, that one was rough. So's it's like this, this man who cheats on his wife with a white woman is Wesley Snipes. Cheats on his wife with a white woman, his white secretary, and then they try to be together and everybody's like, you can't date outsider your race, and it's like Italians against black people. And it's just like, Okay, Spike, we get it, girl, you did this already. You grew up in Italian New York and they were racist. 00:42:32 Speaker 3: I get it. 00:42:35 Speaker 4: We don't need to see it from everybody's perspective, but yeah. 00:42:39 Speaker 3: How many stars did you give it? 00:42:41 Speaker 4: I gave that one two and a half. 00:42:42 Speaker 3: So, like, what is your goal to be on letter box? It's just like to log the movies for yourself. I still am trying to figure out why people get on this thing. 00:42:50 Speaker 4: You know. I think I'm doing it for myself to keep track of what I've watched, because like these are all new watches. Except last night I watched The Wood, which is a movie that I watched so much as a child, and that's such a great movie and MTV production. Actually that's like the only one of like these first five days that I've already seen, and I want to like keep track. I want to make it a point to watch new movies and not really rewatch movies, and to like know what. 00:43:21 Speaker 3: I've watched and actually think about them. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, maybe I'll try it. 00:43:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it also makes you like not look at your phone because you're like, I have to write a review on this, right, But people want my reviews. I want my accountable Yes, I'm a critic. I have to pay attention. So yeah, that's that's why I'm doing it. Okay. Yeah, I do think people get on it because they do think their reviews are important. 00:43:46 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm sure I know a lot of men who I probably could text right now who think their reviews are important. Hate to break it to you, simply. 00:43:56 Speaker 4: Aren't they are? No one's seeing that. 00:44:00 Speaker 3: I just saw the first forty five minutes of Avatar three, Avatar Fire and ash, We'll give it some respect. Then I left perfect movie going experience. That's all I needed. 00:44:13 Speaker 4: I've never left a movie, never got a start. I'll think about it. 00:44:18 Speaker 3: Do you have an AMC card? I do, and you're free to go? 00:44:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah you can. 00:44:22 Speaker 3: You can leave the theater whenever you. 00:44:24 Speaker 4: Watch You're right. I saw it opening night. Oh wow, yes, and I saw it an IMAX because my friend Jess it was her birthday and those movies always come out on her birthday. 00:44:34 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, just by accident. 00:44:36 Speaker 4: She has like the perfect December birth Yeah, and I had just gotten back from Europe, so I was very flagged. And then on top of that, we saw it an IMAX three D and we were in Roe b oh, and so I guess I stayed awake for fifteen minutes before my brain was like, we simply can't. We simply can't process any of this information, and so I fell asleep. I woke up immediately understood what was happening because it's the same movie that came out. Of course it's the same. It's the same as the second one. 00:45:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's kind of nothing to follow. 00:45:14 Speaker 4: No, nope, no. 00:45:16 Speaker 3: Just some creatures flying through the air and neon colors. Yeah, who cares? 00:45:22 Speaker 4: Who cares? 00:45:23 Speaker 3: Roby? That's what time did you What time of night did you go? 00:45:27 Speaker 4: This was? I think we went to the six pm showing. 00:45:29 Speaker 3: Oh that's a tough tough situation. Yeah, oh, should have left, should have left? 00:45:36 Speaker 4: I mean I got a good nap. 00:45:37 Speaker 3: And yeah, three hours of sleep. 00:45:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, I kept my three D glasses on while it was not me. I don't know if that made my dreams three D? 00:45:48 Speaker 3: But yeah, oh well, is there anything left to say about Brittany or the CDs? 00:45:54 Speaker 4: Brittany she's back. 00:45:55 Speaker 3: She's Is she going to come back? 00:45:57 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah. 00:46:00 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen her live? 00:46:01 Speaker 4: Yes? Okay, and oh it was so fun. I saw her at Radio City. This was like towards towards like this was twenty eighteen, so she was kind of like we were all a little concerned. Okay, sure, right, And it was like the performance was very like stunted, very like, you know, not not Britney level, but it was still a great show. And she invited like this man on stage and she was like, Hi. 00:46:33 Speaker 1: What's your name? 00:46:34 Speaker 4: And he was like Giuseppe. She's like Jippippy and he was like, no, it's Jiseppe. She's like everybody say. 00:46:39 Speaker 3: Had to jippee racist Italian. 00:46:44 Speaker 4: It was so insane. She's like, hi, Jippippy. It's like it's clearly Giuseppe. Brittany. 00:46:52 Speaker 3: She had an she was working it. Yeah, she can call him whatever she wants, she can, and he loved it. Everyone this is Mario, He's lucky to be up there. Wow, that's exciting. I guess I'll never see your live. Maybe maybe there'll be We can always hope, hope for Brittany. 00:47:21 Speaker 4: I would love to keep hold out hope for Brittany. I support her with everything she does. Yes, not that, Brittany. You hear that I'm here for you. I'm here for you. 00:47:35 Speaker 3: Maybe this is all she needs. Britney spears reach out. Okay, well, I think we should play a game. I'm so excited to have the CD player. This is life changing for me. 00:47:47 Speaker 4: And you said no gift. 00:47:48 Speaker 3: I know this is unbelievable. Can actually I'm gonna go on a jog with that CD player. 00:47:53 Speaker 4: It's no skip, it's anti skip. Wow. 00:47:55 Speaker 3: Email my heart blasting gosh. All right, we're gonna play a game called Gifts mass Sure, but I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:48:03 Speaker 4: Let's go with six. 00:48:04 Speaker 3: Okay. While I'm doing some like calculating, you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want to be right back. 00:48:10 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't have much to promote. But this year, a really fun show named Kevin. It's called Kevin is coming out. It's an animated show. It's going to be on Amazon. It's coming out at some point this year. Keep an eye out for it. It's going to be great, really really great cast. Woopy Goldberg is a voice in it. It's about cats. Let's see, I am technically like, I'm single and looking I'm bisexual. So hey girls, hey boys, whoever wants in, you're welcome. And yeah, I'm a Sagittarius son Virgo rising Gemini moon. If that matters to you, I just want to give you all of the information. 00:48:57 Speaker 3: If this doesn't lead to a marriage, then this podcast has been a mess of failure. What a waste of time the last six years of Okay, this is how we play gift Master. I'm going to name three celebrities that I'm going to name three gifts, three things you can give away. You're going to tell me which celebrity you would give which gift and why. All right, the celebrities today, we're starting off on a tough note. Candace Cameron, Beer Burr Buer, Candace. 00:49:25 Speaker 4: Cameron, Yeah, yes, the stomach, that's DJ. 00:49:29 Speaker 3: Yes, DJ Tanner. Number two is Jaws now that's the shark. And number three is them all Clooney, We all know them. 00:49:38 Speaker 4: All. 00:49:39 Speaker 3: The three gifts you'll be giving away are number one a student loan, Number two the all new for twenty twenty six Dodge dur Ango, and number three chronic lower back pain. 00:49:50 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So I think for Candace, I'm going to give chronic lower back pain because I think she just doesn't know what it means to suffer given her politics. For Jaws, I want to give him the Durango because I would love to see a that's just for me, and I think, honestly, I think you'd be good at it. And then I would give a mall the student loans because the mall feels like she would want to forgive student loans and like help somebody out. So I think that would be a great gift for her. She'd be like, oh my god, thank You'll absolutely pay this. 00:50:27 Speaker 3: What is them all up to? Just doing good things? 00:50:31 Speaker 4: Being better than George. 00:50:35 Speaker 3: Voting around the lake? 00:50:36 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, in something floey with perfect hair and passing some I don't even know what she does. 00:50:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. She's some sort of humanitarian or she is involved in some sort of. 00:50:50 Speaker 4: I think she's like the lawyer for the world. 00:50:53 Speaker 3: She's world lawyer yeah, she has some sort of that kind of human rights. And then it was like sunningly beautiful and just did all of these things. 00:51:04 Speaker 4: And everyone was like, those two things shouldn't go again, but they did, and that's pretty good. 00:51:11 Speaker 3: I think that that's a good use of I mean, I would also consider giving Candae the student loan. I feel like she's probably one of these people who feels like they shouldn't be forgiven right. Maybe she could use the student loan to go to college, maybe widen her horizons, figure some things out. Yeah, she's a tough case. 00:51:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, you hate to see it. 00:51:33 Speaker 3: We hate to see her. Yeah, So hopefully the chronic lower back pain will do something. And the shark behind the wheel, why not? We haven't seen it before. 00:51:42 Speaker 4: We've never seen it. 00:51:43 Speaker 3: And what was Jaws last movie? 00:51:47 Speaker 4: You know, you hear that shark week. We haven't seen a shark behind the wheel. And what's Jaws up to? 00:51:53 Speaker 3: How have they not made a new Jaws movie? 00:51:55 Speaker 4: You know, Steven Spielberg is probably like, don't touch it, right, Just isn't there Jaws too? 00:52:00 Speaker 3: There's like a billion Jaws. I think like during the seventies and eighties, I think they made quite a few Jaws anything may Jaws three D. So it's not this precious of a property. 00:52:09 Speaker 4: You know what it is. I think like the Great White Shark is no longer like as scary as like. 00:52:16 Speaker 3: Mega right, but maybe that's why that why it's even scarier, because it's underrated and it's coming for you interesting write it. Write it, Steven, check your inbox, email my heart. Okay, well you played the game perfectly. Thank you, And now I feel like we should answer a listener question. We hope me answer a listener question. People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com, or they're sending voice notes. They have all sorts of problems, and we answered them as much as we can. All right, this is hybridger. I'm in a bit of a pickle that maybe you or your possibly rude guest could help me with. Possibly. Okay, So, as I pay for twenty somethings twenty something daughter's cell phone service, she doesn't share her location with us, though we share our location with her. She says she doesn't want us snooping on her. I really am only interested in her location for her safety. I am tempted to make her pay for her own cell phone service. What do you think? Thanks, We love your show and would never give you a gift if you didn't want one. That's nice. That's from Mark and Seattle. What do we think about this situation? Mark's entitled daughter is kind of cruising around the city. She's at the Space Needle, she's at the fish market at. 00:53:36 Speaker 4: Seattle Grace Memorial. 00:53:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's constantly. 00:53:40 Speaker 4: And that's the problem. She keeps going to the hospital. 00:53:47 Speaker 3: And Mark has no idea where she is. She's sending these texts saying come and find me, taunting her parents, me riddles. Marc has a wink of sleep in years, but he's still paying the cell phone bill. 00:54:04 Speaker 4: Yeah. Mark, you know, as a daughter myself, I think you gotta chill. I think you got to chill because, like, if this were nineteen ninety two, you know, would you know where she is? Great now? 00:54:20 Speaker 2: Question? 00:54:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think I think just because technology has given us access to each other doesn't mean we should always have constant access to each other. And she's twenty, she's an adult, she's. 00:54:32 Speaker 3: A responsible woman. Yeah, she's out there, and Mark is saying, well, I'm ready to ruin her financially and not nowhere. 00:54:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like it's keep her on your cell phone bill. You're just doing this, you're threatening this out of spite. 00:54:46 Speaker 3: It's a family plan. You're kind of not You're just paying one. 00:54:49 Speaker 4: Bill more, right, right, don't do not add more financial distress to a twenty year old. 00:54:55 Speaker 3: She already hates you, she can't stand you. This is your lifeline to this person. 00:55:02 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:55:03 Speaker 3: I mean you've got to hold on to what you can. Yeah, otherwise you're gonna lose her forever. 00:55:07 Speaker 4: Mark, I think so. And just like, if you want to know where she is, ask her and maybe she'll tell you. 00:55:12 Speaker 3: Just be nosier, Yeah, call her constantly. Text where are you? Yes? 00:55:17 Speaker 4: Text where? Text you up? Where you at? But with that symbol, like. 00:55:25 Speaker 3: Any good father was Yeah, I feel like that that solves the problem pretty clearly. I don't know why he would even ride in about yeesh, it was so obvious. 00:55:32 Speaker 4: Yes, it's very clear, very clear. 00:55:35 Speaker 3: We can tell why the daughter isn't like him. 00:55:36 Speaker 4: I love that. Mark was, like, we share our location with her. 00:55:42 Speaker 3: She doesn't care where you are, Mark, you're at home in front. 00:55:44 Speaker 4: Of the TVs. Where you are. 00:55:46 Speaker 3: You're at work too much? You were absent? 00:55:49 Speaker 4: Wow. 00:55:50 Speaker 3: Wow, absent father. The daughter does not, She's very distant from him, and now suddenly he wants to Suddenly he wants to be close after twenty years. 00:56:00 Speaker 4: It's too late. And just because just because you're financially supporting. 00:56:03 Speaker 3: Her, Oh no, that it takes more than that relationship. 00:56:08 Speaker 4: Does You can't buy love, Mark, you can't buy it. 00:56:13 Speaker 3: Take her to family therapy. That's what you really need to cancel all of the cell phone service. Yes, put that towards a good doctor. Yes, figure out what's going on between you and Stacy. 00:56:24 Speaker 4: And I know I heard that Seattle has a lot of great doctors. 00:56:28 Speaker 3: Oh my god, doctor Fraser Crane. 00:56:30 Speaker 4: Doctor Fraser Crane. 00:56:31 Speaker 3: Call into doctor Fraser Crane. 00:56:33 Speaker 4: We have a doctor, doctor uh Gray. 00:56:37 Speaker 3: Doctor Gray. Is that what Gray's Anatomy has said? Yeah, I've never seen the show. Interesting, Wow, I've never pictured that show outside of the brief glimpses of hospital that I've seen. 00:56:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, there's a lot of outside. Oh really, Yeah, there's a whole storyline where they get lost in the woods, a plane crash. 00:56:57 Speaker 3: Where's the find me there? That I could have ruined that episode, could have it could have a lot of an episode you couldn't write now because they'd say, well, look, we just look at our phone and find them. 00:57:09 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:57:09 Speaker 3: Wow. So they have all these doctors in Seattle and Mark's ignoring help. He's got a lot of work to do. Yeah, we've answered that question perfectly. Be better, Mark, be better. Well, I've got my truly incredible gift here. This is just fantastic. I'm going to be listening to Brittany non stop. I want to just look at the back of this and just see what other Oh so, what were these singles? Was maybe one more Time You Drive Me Crazy? And sometimes Yeah. 00:57:39 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:57:39 Speaker 3: They just did the first three and then they were like, well, then the rest of this is going to be kind of forgettable. 00:57:44 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:57:45 Speaker 3: Oh, and then there's the cover of the beat Goes On. That's the final track. Yeah, some of these are kind of like why did we write this? 00:57:52 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:57:53 Speaker 3: I will be there. I mean that. How is that an original piece of music? 00:57:57 Speaker 4: Yeah? Wait, what is the track? 00:58:00 Speaker 3: It goes baby? One more Time You Drive Me Crazy? Sometimes Soda Pop, Born to Make You Happy From the bottom of my broken heart, I remember that one. 00:58:09 Speaker 4: Yes, I think I think both of those have music videos. 00:58:13 Speaker 3: Really, Yes, Born to Make You Happy? And yes wow, yeah, wow, nobody saw those No, they didn't reviewers. I think they were released in Europe. Oh, but you can find them online, okay, and then I will be there. I will still love you, thinking about you email my heart and the beat goes on. I love that the you songs. Yeah, those sound great. Do it with Don Philip? Rip? I assume Don. 00:58:41 Speaker 4: Philip possibly, but I think he has a really beautiful voice. I remember that song an adult man. I think it is an adult man. 00:58:51 Speaker 3: That is so strange. 00:58:52 Speaker 4: It doesn't it feel like Casey Kasum or something. 00:58:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to get my eyes on Don Philip. That's I'm google this right now. Uh, this is so weird. I've never seen this man. He's just kind of an odd looking guy. 00:59:08 Speaker 4: Oh. I can't wait for you to open it and look at the booklet. 00:59:11 Speaker 3: He looks like somebody from the Big Bang Theory. Oh he is just a man, yeah, just kind of like a guy, non descript white man. Interesting. 00:59:22 Speaker 4: Well, he looks like he looks like one of the like the guys who sang on Carben San Diego do. 00:59:28 Speaker 3: What were they called? Like they had some jazzy name Rocapella. 00:59:33 Speaker 4: Yes, he looks like a member of Rockapella. 00:59:36 Speaker 3: He probably was Brittany should do a number with Rockapella. That would be that could change things. 00:59:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that would break all of our brain. Yeah what I'm in? But what what? 00:59:53 Speaker 1: Well? 00:59:54 Speaker 3: Thank you for being here. That's such a wonderful time with you. 00:59:57 Speaker 4: This is so fun. 00:59:58 Speaker 3: Listener the podcast, I hope you've been picking up on the hints of these last few seconds. It's coming to a conclusion. The audio is going to slowly wind down, and I want you to stop freaking out. I want you to hold still and breathe. The podcast may be over, but your day is just beginning, So go do something. 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