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Speaker 2: Hey, we're back with Jeff Fletcher. He covers the Angels

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Speaker 2: for the So Calm News group. He's joining us. Jeff,

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Speaker 2: Good to see you again, and also at this time,

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Speaker 2: it is great to have you on during a time

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Speaker 2: period where the Angels have won seven games in a row,

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Speaker 2: really resurrecting themselves from the burial ground, right, because this

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Speaker 2: is a team that obviously hasn't been good for years,

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Speaker 2: and so when you look at the start that they

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Speaker 2: were in like the ten below five hundred ranger, Like

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Speaker 2: season's done, let's talk about some trade pips, talk about

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Speaker 2: next year, and then here they come. So how surprising

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Speaker 2: is this and what's happening?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, first of all, I think if you

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Speaker 1: then just woken up today and looked at the stats,

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Speaker 1: it would not be a surprise. I mean, there are

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Speaker 1: a game under five hundred. If you look at all

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Speaker 1: the individual players, like, nobody is really crazy out of

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Speaker 1: what you would expect. What's been weird is the way

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Speaker 1: they've gotten there. Because they started off eight and four,

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Speaker 1: for three and a half weeks they were horrendous. Everything

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Speaker 3: They all are on a tear.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's hitting, which has brought all their numbers back to

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Speaker 1: where they should be. So, you know, right now they're

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Speaker 3: So I want to get into some guys here. All.

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Speaker 4: First off, let's talk a little bit about Mikerout. How's

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Speaker 1: Well, he's been running. He ran at eighty percent the

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Speaker 3: Talk about another Guy Ward.

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Speaker 4: Eight consecutive game with an extra base hit, talk about

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Speaker 4: his presence, and you know, he's the first Angel to

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Speaker 3: I find that absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's pretty good. Eight eight games in

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Speaker 1: And he's a guy that's always been super streaky, and

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure that's going to be with some big

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Speaker 5: This is the time of year where we start talking

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Speaker 1: Zach Netto is probably the best player right now all around.

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Speaker 1: He missed a couple of weeks the beginning of the season,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think either of those guys could

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Speaker 5: This team more fun to watch than other years. Think

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Speaker 5: of like an entire like why an Angels fan would

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Speaker 5: come to see a five hundred team. If the hot streaks,

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Speaker 5: you know, low streaks, they end up as a five

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Speaker 5: Angels as an organization putting a better product out on

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think it depends how much you

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Speaker 1: If those kind of guys, those five guys all are

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Speaker 1: what it comes down to. Like Neto Ohapi Shana, Will Kohanawitz, Soriano.

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Speaker 5: This will probably be perceived as very negative, but you

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Speaker 5: look to the Angels with trade chips at the trade deadline. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: this streak has got everybody thinking, Bye, I'm still thinking

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Speaker 5: more trade? Is there any Is there any like give

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Speaker 5: they just haven't done a lot of trades that you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they definitely have Kenny Jansen. You could

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Speaker 1: definitely trade him if he's still doing well. The deadline

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Speaker 1: to make that judgment like can we be good in

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Speaker 5: Has the organization or Ron Washington laxed their approach to

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Speaker 5: not dhing Mike Trout because he's going to go in

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Speaker 5: five hundred times when he DHS. But now he had

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that they're open to having him DH.

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Speaker 1: I think that they don't necessarily feel like it's going

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, if he needs DH more, that's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But before he got hurt, he played every single game,

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Speaker 1: And right now, you know that's still possible, you know,

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Speaker 5: How have they accommodated the media in West Sacramento. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was nice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a teeny little press box, but

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Speaker 1: Well, that kind of disappeared when the season started. They

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Speaker 2: That is the job of the phone. Those apps, they

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Speaker 3: Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Who are we not talking about or what are we

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, our show covers all thirty. We're giving love

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Speaker 2: What's a name or just a component of what's going

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Speaker 1: You know, I think we've hit everybody, you know. I

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Speaker 1: They haven't really had other than Trout, they haven't really

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Speaker 2: Last one for me, if things go awry and this

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Speaker 2: do you think this is a year that could cause changes,

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Speaker 2: The team's playing well, so you're seeing a little taste

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean definitely Ron Washington and Perrymansion. It could

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Speaker 2: Jeff, thanks for swinging by. Appreciate the time at Jeff

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Speaker 2: Fletcher ocr is the follow on Twitter and check out

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Speaker 2: his work with the Orange County Register. Thanks Jeff, appreciate

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 1: M all right, thanks guys,