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Speaker 3: What's up? Falcons fans, and welcome back to the Friday five.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host Toil McFadden. I am joined as always

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Speaker 3: by Tory mclaney, and today we're going to go through

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Speaker 3: a few mock drafts. Yay, it's a free agency is

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Speaker 3: kind of well, I don't know if it's over and

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Speaker 4: I also don't know if it's over and done with

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Speaker 4: because there were two individuals that signed literally a couple

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Speaker 4: hours before we started recording this, so who knows.

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Speaker 3: Yep, it is Thursday, March twenty sixth, and yeah, the

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Speaker 3: signings continue to happen, and you can actually here on

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Speaker 3: the back end of this episode one of those signings

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Speaker 3: Brian Robinson. Well the other is a trade, right, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's right. The news that happened over the weekend. Gosh,

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Speaker 3: you're so right.

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Speaker 4: I forgot about that.

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Speaker 3: We got trades, we got signings, we got a lot

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Speaker 3: of stuff that we're going to talk about. So, yeah, today,

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Speaker 3: the main part of our discussion is going to be

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Speaker 3: going through some mock drafts as we get ready to

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Speaker 3: going to go through and just kind of see what

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Speaker 3: the consensus has been, share a few thoughts. I've got

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Speaker 3: Tory's way to kind of kickstart this conversation. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's go back to Sidney Brown. Over the weekend, the

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Speaker 3: one more time, just trying to watch them college basketball.

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Speaker 3: You know, like we got a life too. But you know,

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Speaker 3: the news waits for nobody. And so the Falcons get

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Speaker 3: Sidney Brown. They send a pair of draft picks to

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Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles. I've got it in front of me,

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Speaker 3: picks number one, fourteen and one ninety seven for Sidney

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Speaker 4: I think it makes a lot of sense based on

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Speaker 4: what Ian Cunningham has said. The whole point of this

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Speaker 4: early offseason has been, which is to elevate the floor

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Speaker 4: of the roster. I think when you look at someone

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Speaker 4: like Sydney Brown, he is an asset on special teams

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Speaker 4: and he has the experience of kind of being in

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Speaker 4: we had a conversation with him, which you will catch

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Speaker 4: that at the end of this episode, so stick around.

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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the conversation with him too.

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Speaker 3: I think thought it was incredible, right, Like I think.

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Speaker 4: That he has I just loved his story and we'll

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Speaker 4: talk more about his story. But like he's a twin

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Speaker 4: his twin brother plays for the Bengals, like what they

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Speaker 3: Sidney Brown, Welcome to Atlanta, and it's really awesome to

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Speaker 3: Roll right through this part for time reasons. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: did he say that he doesn't believe in space?

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Speaker 4: So I think that what he meant was that he

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Speaker 3: It's not that I know nothing about space. I mean

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's like a fraction of what space is. But

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Speaker 4: I don't think that we I mean, it's an infinite thing.

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Speaker 4: We haven't found the into it. So like, I it's true, right,

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Speaker 4: So I think that no, we do. We don't know

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Speaker 3: So in do you think people have been to space?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I do think people. I believe in the moon landing.

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Speaker 3: We know it's cold.

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Speaker 4: We do know it's cold.

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Speaker 3: We know that, you know, we know it's vacuum.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So in terms of space, it's like, I don't

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Speaker 3: Would you go to outer space if you have the chance.

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Speaker 4: God, No, there's not a chance. So I hate space,

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Speaker 4: like I hate it. It freaks me out.

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Speaker 4: It's so unknown. It like it makes me feel insignificant,

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Speaker 4: and saw Project Hail Mary. Great movie, Go see it.

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Speaker 4: But the whole time I was so anxious watching it

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 3: I thought that was the movie about Doug Flutie. No, Oh,

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Speaker 3: my bad, No, Brian Gosling.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna say anything else cause I don't

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Speaker 3: Gotcha.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a good movie. Go see it.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't like space. I would never go to space.

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Speaker 3: I feel the same way. I think space is sick.

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Speaker 3: For the record, but like you, you've been next to

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Speaker 3: thanks guys, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Or if I did what like Katie Perry did, whereas

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Speaker 3: It's like, all right, cool, yep, just a real quick

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't stopped thinking about it since.

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Speaker 3: Cool. Well, one of the things that I've been thinking

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Speaker 4: So it'll be running the thirty first, okay, and it'll

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Speaker 3: Thirty first, All right, yeah, so everybody get ready for that.

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Speaker 3: What have you ever gone back and like looked at

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Speaker 4: a lot of the mock drafts that I do. I

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Speaker 4: It's not really what I believe. If I did one

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Speaker 4: like last year, I felt pretty confident about Xavier Watts

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Speaker 3: That's the thing is you can't really like to your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually think that I am leaning more towards

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Speaker 5: About too, because I do like we're gonna get there. Okay, perfect, perfect,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 4: I And it's because of who the Falcons already have

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Speaker 3: I believe, I believe.

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Speaker 4: So I think that I would rather have a dynamic

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Speaker 4: I think that it's not a hard argument for me

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see if more people mock any edge

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Speaker 4: very confident kind of saying anyone else. The thing about

438
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Speaker 4: it is, though, is he is He's not gonna be

439
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 4: kind of your flashy sacks guy, Christian Miller. It has

440
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 4: a ninety point two run defense great according to PFF. Like,

441
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 4: this is a guy who if you're looking at where

442
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 4: the Falcons need to improve defensively, it's in stopping the run.

443
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Speaker 1: Yep.

444
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 4: This is someone who notoriously over three years as a

445
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 4: starter with the University of Georgia or not a starbo

446
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 4: even like role player with the University of Georgia, Like,

447
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 4: he graded out very very very high against the run

448
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 4: show right.

449
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: Down the run.

450
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Speaker 4: Yes, it kind of like it makes sense to me.

451
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 4: But also I'm I I need to do more, I'll

452
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 4: be honest, I need to do more research on the

453
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 4: on the other guys, maybe they also grade out very high.

454
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Caden and Caleb Banks are and I agree

455
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: with everything you just said. They are on the one hand,

456
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 3: like really enticing, but they both kind of have a

457
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: few flaws right to their game. But I so. Jordan

458
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 3: Reid of ESPN mocked Caiden McDonald donald to the Falcons

459
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: a week or two ago, and I had the chance

460
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Speaker 3: to talk to him about it, and he he said

461
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Speaker 3: it would be a no brainer pick for Atlanta if

462
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Speaker 3: he was there, and that he's kind of a first

463
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: round talent. Yeah, he's a little bit of competent in

464
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 3: all the areas you would want a defensive tackle to be,

465
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 3: but maybe not excellent in one. And then Caleb Banks,

466
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: he's six six, three hundred and twenty seven pounds like

467
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 3: this dude is a big, big dude, very versatile. He's

468
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: played anywhere nose tackle to the nine technique for Florida's defense. However,

469
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: the key there is that only played three games last

470
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: season because he broke his foot. Ryan he broke his

471
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Speaker 3: foot again at the combine. Yeah, so if we're looking

472
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Speaker 3: at a six six, three hundred and thirty pound guy

473
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: and feet problems that that's not necessarily what you want.

474
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's worrying, like you know, like it is. And

475
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Speaker 4: I was just looking at Kayden McDonald and I don't

476
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Speaker 4: I don't hate this either, like I don't hate I

477
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 4: don't hate the idea of Caden McDonald. He has a

478
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 4: ninety one point two run defense grade, but he has

479
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: a sixty two point eight pass rush grade. And what

480
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: I will say about Christian versus Cayden, if we're having

481
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Speaker 4: that conversation what I liked about Christian and I don't

482
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: think this is my my Georgia bias showing. I genuinely

483
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 4: think this when you look at the way Christian kind

484
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 4: of grades out across the board, it's a bit more

485
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: consistent over years, whereas Cayden you can see him like

486
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 4: ticking up, and then he has this one year and

487
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five where he really he takes a big step.

488
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 4: Is that a sign of he's on the growing trajectory

489
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: or is that a sign of a one hit wonder?

490
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Speaker 4: Like that is always something that I think about when

491
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: I'm looking at at this stuff. And whereas Christian Miller

492
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 4: was pretty consistent in his grades and his production over

493
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 4: three straight years where it was all pretty much right,

494
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 4: there is this is this a guy who is kind

495
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: of where it's kind of the conversation of ceiling and floor.

496
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 3: Yep, how how.

497
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Speaker 4: Close do you want your ceiling and floor? Because sometimes

498
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Speaker 4: if you get it too close then you're kind of

499
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: like you're kind of just like right here. But if

500
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: you have a guy with a high ceiling but a

501
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 4: super low floor, you run the risk of the roller

502
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 4: coaster of it. It's all, it's all the conversation of

503
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 4: that scouts have. I.

504
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Speaker 3: So you and I are sharing a brain today because

505
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: as I was kind of putting together these these topics

506
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: to talk about I almost put like a little halftime

507
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Speaker 3: in here where we're getting away from the prospects specifically,

508
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 3: and I wanted to go more theoretical with you. And

509
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 3: it's exactly that. Where do you fall on the traits

510
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 3: versus production argument? You know, it can range wherever you're

511
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: picking in the draft right day three, maybe you feel

512
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 3: one way. Yeah, first round you feel different way. But

513
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: by and large, to you, Tory is it more important

514
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: to have somebody with surefire NFL caliber traits who maybe

515
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: doesn't have the production you haven't seen it all come

516
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: together for an extended period of time, Or do you

517
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: need to see Hey, a minimum like a couple of

518
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: years of college production before I even really start taking

519
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: you seriously because I just have seen players with incredible

520
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 3: traits before flame out yea too often, too frequently. Like

521
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: where do you fall on that kind of hypothetical?

522
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Speaker 4: I will say it definitely depends on where I'm picking,

523
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 4: But I do think that for me, and I'll use

524
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Speaker 4: this analogy because I'm in the process of looking at

525
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 4: like town homes and apartments and all kinds of stuff

526
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 4: I thought you were having on Zillow all the time,

527
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Speaker 4: And I'm looking at Dylan, I'm looking at the photos,

528
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 4: and I'm looking at these like tours, and I'm reading

529
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 4: about these places. But I'm not gonna put a down

530
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: payment on anything until I go and stand on the

531
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Speaker 4: floor myself, until I go and look at it myself.

532
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: And to me, it's like I need to know that

533
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: where my money is going is solid, and so I

534
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: need kind of that assurance of production of like Hey,

535
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: has this house been produced in a way that's going

536
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Speaker 4: to be sustainable for my lifestyle, Like is the is

537
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 4: there a window that's gonna fall over?

538
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 2: Like?

539
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: Is there a window that's gonna break?

540
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: Is?

541
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Speaker 4: Like how's the heating and air unit? You know, there

542
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: are certain things And I don't know if this analogy

543
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 4: is making any sense that I'm saying it, but I

544
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 4: think that like I'm saying all this to say, like

545
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 4: you have to have a proven track record for me

546
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: to really buy in. So if I'm looking at a

547
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Speaker 4: house and I'm like, oh, well, the windows look great,

548
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: but if the if I go there and the windows

549
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: are like a piece of like not to cuz on

550
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 4: the podcast, Uh, then I'm like, Okay, this is misleading.

551
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: So I think sometimes traits can be misleading. I think

552
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 4: that can be really great. I think that they can

553
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 4: be building blocks. But I think when I'm thinking of

554
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: a prospect, I'm like, I need to know that they

555
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: can do kind of some of the fundamental things that

556
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: I need them to do. I need them to have

557
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: a track record that I can feel confident in putting

558
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: my money where my mouth is.

559
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: So it's almost like, you know, you watch the combine,

560
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: you see a guy run, you know whatever he jumps, however,

561
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: high all that stuff that's like the square footage listing

562
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: and the number of baths and stuff on the zillow.

563
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: But then you get there and you're like, yeah, all right,

564
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: this might be a lot of square footage, but the

565
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: way it's laid out is insane. I can't make use

566
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: of all this square footage. Or yeah, you said five baths,

567
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: but there's really like two half baths in here, and

568
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 3: then the other one is like next to the garage

569
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 3: and we're never going to use that. So like, in reality,

570
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: you need to see that the traits being promised are

571
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: actually functionally applicable and can result in something a little

572
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: more sustainable.

573
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't this may. I don't care about the combine.

574
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: I don't care how you really test out everybody. If

575
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 4: you got to invite to the combine, you're an athletic dude. Like,

576
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: I'm not super worried about that part of it. If

577
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: you are, if I'm thinking about drafting you, it means

578
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: that you're an athletic dude. I don't really need you

579
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 4: to like go and confirm that for me. I need

580
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 4: to watch you play. I need to see you on

581
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 4: a game day. I need to see you when I'm

582
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 4: standing there talking to you and I'm like, I need

583
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 4: you to do this, this, and this. Go out and

584
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: do it or draw it on the board for me.

585
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: Like that's what I care about. Like, I don't care

586
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: if you can jump an extra half inch over somebody else,

587
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: Like that's neither here nor there. Again, all of these

588
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: guys are athletic. All of these guys are proven, like

589
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: probably top ten percent in the world athlete wise. I

590
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: really that part of it. Great. Now, go show me

591
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: what you do with those things. I don't care that

592
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 4: you have them. I care what you do with them.

593
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: That's fair. All right, Let's talk about somebody who is

594
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: very athletic, who you and I both know fairly well,

595
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: and that's Zacharia Branch, who has been kind of a

596
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: popular mock to the Falcons for understandable reasons. Eddie Brown

597
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: of the San Diego Union Tribune said, Branch is a twitchy, explosive,

598
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: space destroying playmaker that is quite the description who wins

599
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: with speed, suddenness, and return game electricity. And you know, first,

600
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: I'll just kind of like right off top, like we

601
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: watch Zakraya Branch. Yeah, can you envision him sliding right

602
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: into this Atlanta offense, and if so, what does he

603
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: bring to the table that maybe they're lacking right now?

604
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

605
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 4: I think so. But my question about Zacharie Branch is

606
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Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that he. I don't want this

607
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: to be taken the wrong way. I'm not saying that

608
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: they're going to put Zachari Branch in the slot and

609
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: they're going to do something.

610
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: So this is the question I wanted to start with. Yeah,

611
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: which is like from the outside looking in, I understand

612
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: the media looking at Atlanta's receipt even group and just

613
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: kind of being like, well, what they don't even have

614
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: a small with Drake London and Kyle Pitts in these

615
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: big bodies. They need somebody in the slot, right, And

616
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: I think that's fundamentally misunderstanding.

617
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: What they do with Drake Lennon. With Drake Lennon, I

618
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 4: completely agree with that because some of Drake's most.

619
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: I should have just gone right for that first question, But.

620
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Speaker 4: To some of some of the best things that Drake does,

621
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Speaker 4: some of the best mismatches you get with Drake Lennon

622
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: is having him moving out of the slot, like having

623
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Speaker 4: him run out of the slot like I. So for me,

624
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: it's like, yes, you can do some really cool things

625
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 4: with Zachary Branch and Drake London on the field at

626
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Speaker 4: the same time.

627
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: I get that, But ZACHARYE.

628
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: Branch, the reason you're getting him is because of that

629
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Speaker 4: production from the slot. He has six hundred and twenty

630
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: eight of his total eight hundred and eleven yards from

631
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Speaker 4: scrimmage from from the slot in twenty.

632
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Speaker 3: Two Saw Machine.

633
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Speaker 4: They've been saying it exactly, and so I think that,

634
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: like I I again, I understand why people will do

635
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: this because one, he's a Georgia guy. They're like, ah,

636
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: like Georgia Falcons. And then two they're like, oh, the

637
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: falcons need some like speed and some twitchiness and everything.

638
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: And I'm just kind of sitting here, like agree with

639
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, I do agree with that. But I think

640
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: you know, you went out you got John Dodson. I

641
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 4: think he adds a little bit of like take the

642
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: top off of the defense a little bit for for

643
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: some of those deep balls. But I I kind of

644
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: like go back and forth on do you need a

645
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: true slot receiver or do you need someone who can

646
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: kind of do a little bit of everything. I think

647
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: if I'm looking at a receiver, if I'm looking at

648
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: a guy in the second round or third round, I

649
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: want to kind of be able to move him around

650
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: because I don't want to. I don't want there to

651
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 4: be like a weird thing where it's like, but Zacharai

652
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: Branch is a slot guy, why are you not in

653
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: the slot? It's because Drake Lennon has this really awesome

654
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: matchup and I'm not gonna like, I don't know, I

655
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: think you run into some of those questions.

656
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: No, I got you. You want a mobile home?

657
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, to keep Yeah, exactly.

658
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: Today's podcast brought to you. You know, I don't know if

659
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: we can even do that. I don't want to run

660
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: a foul of anybody I know. All right, So then

661
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: let me toss to you another wide receiver who I've

662
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: seen mock to Atlanta, and that is Jeremy Bernard, Yes

663
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: at Alabama. And you know he's really interesting because he

664
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: played at Washington in twenty twenty three with Michael Pennock junior.

665
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: He was kind of the fourth receiver in that incredible

666
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: like Roma Duneesa, you know, all of those guys, and

667
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: then he goes to Alabama. So there's familiarity in the

668
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: offense that Michael Pennix also has familiarity in. But his

669
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: strengths are route running, ability to operate in the middle

670
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: of the field, intermediate routes, versatility, can play in the slot,

671
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: can play out wide, can play kind of that middle

672
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: distance split. Like all of those things. The downside doesn't

673
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: have the elite athletic traits right, the speed, the explosiveness,

674
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: the kind of jumping ability, catch point, all of that stuff.

675
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: I would argue though the Falcons have their option like

676
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: Drake is an amazing catch ball guy Kyle is a

677
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: unicorn with that mismatch kind of speed and explosiveness. What

678
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: have you? Johan Dottson another speedy receiver that they've just added.

679
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: So is Jeremy Bernard more appealing to you for kind

680
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: of the package he presents?

681
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, especially if you are, yeah, just

682
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: looking at kind of the You can't. I don't think

683
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: you can ever look at the draft in a vacuum.

684
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 4: You have to look at it in space, not like space,

685
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 4: definitely not. You have to look at in the holistic

686
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: approach of like how you're building an offense, And for me,

687
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: Jeremy Bernard I think makes a little bit more sense

688
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: because of his versatility. Again, I'm not saying that you

689
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: can't do that with Zacharie Branch. And I'm not saying

690
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: that if the Falcons get zacharyier Branch at forty eight

691
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: that it's like, oh no, that's not That's not what

692
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying at all. I'm saying I would be excited

693
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: either way.

694
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: Please clip that.

695
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 4: No, don't dared, But I will say that there is

696
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: an upside with with Jeremy having that previous experience with

697
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: Michael Pennox. I think that there is an ups to

698
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: He only has like one drop in the last year.

699
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: He's a very reliable.

700
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: High IQ guy. Yeah, from what we read have you

701
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: met him?

702
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 4: And again, yeah, and again, just like the amount of

703
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 4: he's taken slot snaps, He's taken snaps out wide. He's

704
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: been a motion guy. Like, he's done every every piece

705
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: of what you would need. Again, not saying that Zacharie

706
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 4: Branch has not, but I think that like and also

707
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: just kind of body style, body type. He's six one

708
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: two four, Like I I like this a little bit

709
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 4: more for all the reasons that we just said.

710
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, last one here and we can probably

711
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: be a little bit quicker on it because I feel

712
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: like it's you and I are of the same opinion

713
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: with this. But Josh Kendall of The Athletic had in

714
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: one of his mocks Atlanta trading back to pick fifty

715
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: three to select Chris and Miller, So we know that

716
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: Ian Cunningham has said I love draft picks, right, I

717
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: was frankly a little bit surprised when a trade happened

718
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: and a cruise I agree, I agree, yeah, but you

719
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 3: could say they added they kind of did in getting

720
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: another player. So how likely, though, do you think a

721
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: situation like this comes to fruition? Maybe not in the

722
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 3: second round, right, but at some point in the draft.

723
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: If if you had to put any type of like

724
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: very confident to like nod it out, like maybe it's

725
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: one of those like five like agree, strongly disagree whatever

726
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: that Atlanta will trade and a crew more picks.

727
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: I absolutely think that they will, and I strongly agree,

728
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 4: strongly agree. I really personally, just from hearing in Cunningham's

729
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: conviction about it, if he said at one time, he

730
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: said it every single time he's had a mic in

731
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: front of him, how much he wants draft capital, how

732
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: many times he wants to have and a back like

733
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: how many swings he wants to play like all of

734
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: those analogies. He he wants more than five. He told

735
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: the outs and the very first meeting you ever had

736
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: with them, this is last year. You're gonna have five picks.

737
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 4: Like I I find it hard to believe that they're

738
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 4: gonna go into draft weekend with five picks and still

739
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: come out with five picks. I think that, And again

740
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if that I don't really in my

741
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 4: brain see it, like, oh well, in the second round

742
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: they're gonna do something that.

743
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: Was gonna be kind of My next question is like,

744
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: do you have in mind an area where you think

745
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: that will happen? But like that, do it wherever?

746
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: Right?

747
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think the value is best exactly.

748
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 4: I mean I would love to accrue more of like

749
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: an early like a crew more in early day three?

750
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: Okay personally, so like a pick up a couple of fours.

751
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would be okay with that, and then like

752
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 4: doing something you know, maybe in the back end of

753
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: the third round. But but again, like what do you

754
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: have to give up? Do you have teams that are

755
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: willing to play ball? With you a little bit, like

756
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: there are a lot of factors that go into that,

757
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: and so I'm not like gonna say here and say

758
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 4: that I feel one hundred percent convicted that Ian Cunningham's

759
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 4: going to walk out of there with eight picks, Like

760
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 4: I don't want to say that, but I do think

761
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 4: because of everything he said in the conviction of which

762
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 4: he has, that that could be a reality.

763
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, last one for you. We've heard already

764
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: kind of the buzz building for the twenty twenty seven

765
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, draft. So is it critical to you that

766
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: if they do pick up extra picks that it is

767
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: for this year's draft or could you see them making

768
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: a move and getting some for next year and that's

769
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: kind of all they get.

770
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: I honestly think if you can come out and the

771
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 4: way that I'm like, Okay, you go in with five picks,

772
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: you come out.

773
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: With five picks.

774
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 4: If you go in with five picks and however, manon

775
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: picks you have next year, but and come out with

776
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: five picks plus two more next year, I'm I'm in

777
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: like the third or the fourth round.

778
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that too.

779
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: Like, I absolutely think that could be something because I

780
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: think a lot of times, and I even said this

781
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: on the last podcast, was there are a lot of

782
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: people who are saying like that. There are a lot

783
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: of teams are looking to do that, A lot of

784
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: teams are looking to get into that more into that

785
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven groupings, and so I would be curious

786
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: to see what comes out of those conversations and how

787
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 4: much the Falcons are playing into twenty twenty seven. So

788
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: we'll see. I don't hate that. I don't hate that idea.

789
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: I really think that it's it's absolutely in the realm

790
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: of possibilities.

791
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and based on a few reports, it looks like,

792
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: at least from a comp pick, Yeah, Atlanta is sitting

793
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: prettier than they have been the last few years, which

794
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: is which is awesome, and that's smart to kind of

795
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: keep an eye on the future in that way. But yeah,

796
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: please everybody, y'all keep an eye on the future of

797
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: this feed, because we're going to have a lot more

798
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: stuff coming every single Friday. We're back the Friday five toy.

799
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: This was great. I feel like we really hit on

800
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 3: a lot of the key topics that have just been

801
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: buzzing around my head over the last little bit. So

802
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 3: I appreciate you doing this exercise with me, but we

803
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 3: are not done. We now have a couple of conversations,

804
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: one of which involves both of us, one of which

805
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: just involves toy. Uh. But Sidney Brown Brian Robinson coming

806
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: right up and let's get to them right now. All right,

807
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 3: we are sitting down now with Sidney Brown, the Falcon's

808
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: newest safety. Yee yeah, big weekend for you. But welcome

809
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: to Atlanta.

810
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, thanks for having me.

811
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 4: Okay, so tell us a little bit about getting the call.

812
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: I know, with with trades and everything, it can kind

813
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: of be a bit of a whirlwind. But where were

814
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: you when you got the call and kind of what

815
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 4: were your initial thoughts about joining up here in Atlanta.

816
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I didn't expect it at all. I

817
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: was Uh, I was just driving back to my apartment

818
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: from the mall and uh, I got a text and

819
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: it said this is Ian with the Atlanta Falcons. I said, okay,

820
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 2: this is a prank, Like sure, okay, you're you're messing

821
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: with me and then uh and then ultimately called me

822
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: right after and said, hey, you ready to do this.

823
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: I was like, you're kidding me? And I was so excited,

824
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: was pumped, Like I just I was ready to go

825
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: right on the moment. So it's it's a great opportunity,

826
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: and I'm just excited to be here.

827
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what what excites you about kind of joining this group?

828
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: Obviously they made such a huge jump last year in

829
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: terms of sacks, but they have a great kind of

830
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: secondary veteran group in place. Like, what excites you about

831
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 3: joining the Falcon's Defense.

832
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: I think I'm just I'm excited to be a part

833
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: of a great group of guys, a great team, new

834
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: people in the building, and ultimately just help the team

835
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: win in every way I can. So, yeah, get to

836
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: know everybody first, and you know, kind of build a

837
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: role from there.

838
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: Cool. I was doing a lot of research on you

839
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 4: this morning, and I was you have such a inspiring

840
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: story just how you got to where you are. And

841
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: your brother, who for our listeners is Chase. He is

842
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 4: a running back for the Bengals, got it, And he's

843
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 4: your twin brother, and I my boyfriend's a twin and

844
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: I feel like there is a different level of connectivity

845
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: when you have a twin. Can you kind of tell

846
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: us some stories of y'all's childhood and kind of doing

847
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 4: I read where I was like, y'all did everything together. Yeah,

848
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 4: like everything y'all are inseparable. What kind of are some

849
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 4: of the best stories from your child?

850
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Having him has been just

851
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: has been an absolute blessing. I can't really imagine life

852
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: without him, and just like just the journey, you know,

853
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: as a twin, you know, you have somebody that's exactly

854
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: like you in every single way, so you know, if

855
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: he does something, you can do it. And I think

856
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: that just kind of motivated us and that's been our

857
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: relationship ever since we were young. You know, if Chase

858
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: says something, I'm going to try and do it better,

859
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: and if I do it better, then Chase is going

860
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: to do it better, and then it's just like this

861
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: and this and everybody. So I think just that the

862
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: competitive relationship between the two of us is kind of

863
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: driven and excelled help us excel in the game of ball.

864
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: But you know, crazy stories as kids is be like

865
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: it's just we up fighting, like we grew up, like

866
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: doing some martial arts, a little bit of boxing and stuff,

867
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: so awesome. You can just imagine what the household looked like.

868
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: I'm sure with boxing gloves, and you know when we

869
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: come back from like a little like m M a practice,

870
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: it's it's it's uh, it's some fun stuff, a little rowdy.

871
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: Did you all compete in just like everything that? Yeah,

872
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: did you find a way to make a game out

873
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: of kind of like anything and everything?

874
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: I think everything was a competition. You know, it's, uh,

875
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 2: you know, who is going to do better in school,

876
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: Who's going to tie their shoes first, Who's going to

877
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: get to the fridge first, Who's going to finish their

878
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: meal first? And I think that's I mean, it's just

879
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: been amazing, Like even to this day. You know, we

880
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: train together in the off season. Obviously he separates and

881
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: does a little more offensive stuff. I'll do my defensive stuff.

882
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: But you know, even just starting out running workouts and everything,

883
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: like we're always together, we're always competing in those or

884
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: it's can kind of you know, clashing ideas, and you know,

885
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty it's pretty damn cool to have someone

886
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: like that, especially at this level. And I think it

887
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: just Cantinue used to drive us and motivate each one

888
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: of us to you know, keep taking those steps and

889
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: continue to drive.

890
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: I read a story on I believe it was s.

891
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: I did a whole story on you and your brother

892
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 4: and in y'all's journey to where y'all are right now,

893
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: and one of the stories was y'all are both at

894
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: Illinois and very rarely did y'all were y'all on the

895
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 4: field at the same time, like really going against each

896
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 4: other in live settings, because again, he's running back your safety.

897
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 4: They kind of kept you separately. But there was like

898
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 4: one moment where y'all got after it on on the field.

899
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 4: I found that and that was it.

900
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: Did they yeah, I mean you to get off of it?

901
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: Was it him or did y'all both go off confused?

902
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: It was Uh, I can't believe you found that. I did. Yeah, No,

903
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: so we Uh it was just like, uh, it was

904
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: actually our first year with Brett Bielma. There's a springball practice,

905
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: you know, kind of everybody's feeling each other out. The

906
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: coaches are still trying to figure out Chase the defense

907
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: as defensive coaches are trying to figure out me and

908
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: uh man. I mean, I think the one thing they

909
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: didn't know is how competitive and my brother and I

910
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: were at the morning and I mean it was every

911
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: single rep that day it was just like boom clash.

912
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: We get into it, and then finally, I mean I

913
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: kind of chase Chase kind of like bought me in

914
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 2: my mask and he kind of hit it and I

915
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: just lost my mind strowing and stuff, and I ultimately

916
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: got kicked out of practice. I'm like that you're stealing

917
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: my reps. I'm losing my mind. But it's just funny

918
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: reflecting on that stuff. But I mean that just kind

919
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: of it's the competitors.

920
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: That's like the boxing background. They're like, go to that corner,

921
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: go to that corner. Exactly incredible. I love that.

922
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: It was pretty dope.

923
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what was it like like playing with your brother?

924
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: I know, obviously y'all y'all played together in Canada and

925
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 4: then went down to Florida and had stayed with host

926
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 4: families and really kind of like grew up together in

927
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: football at the same time. And then you go, I

928
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: think he went to Western Michigan and then transferred to

929
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 4: Illinois with you do you remember what do you remember

930
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: about that time of him kind of coming to be

931
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: a part of your team and your group, and what

932
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: did it mean to you to share those like college

933
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: moments with him?

934
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 2: It was Uh, college was an interesting journey. I mean,

935
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: being two Canadian kids, we knew nothing about you know,

936
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: American colleges. So you know, my brother had every offer

937
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: you could imagine, and he ended up going to Western

938
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: Michigan because he wanted to be a pilot. But he

939
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: also thought Western Michigan was like the same prestigious like Alabama, Ole,

940
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: Miss LSU, Illinois.

941
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and yeah really.

942
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: I mean really, you know, I'm gonna one day and

943
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: I mean ultimately that that all didn't go through, and

944
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: he ended up coming to Illinois, which was like my dream. Yeah,

945
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: that was our dream ever since we were in high school.

946
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: So I mean, I think, I think, I think again,

947
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: like having him at the University Illinois was just amazing.

948
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Like I said, I mean, it's it's it's been a

949
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: blessing having someone just like me and to see him

950
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: succeed early on, and then you know, I kind of

951
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: drove my way up and you know, made stuff happen,

952
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: and both of us being draft picks and stuff, and

953
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: both of us being able to experience college together. I

954
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: think that was I mean, that's something that will cherish forever.

955
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: I think that's an incredible mindset too, to have early on.

956
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: Is that kind of like competitiveness, maybe without jealousy, maybe

957
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: without kind of like coveting with the other PEA know,

958
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: it motivates me.

959
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: I was actually talking to somebody about this the other day,

960
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, we are jealous of one another.

961
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: But it's not like it's not like it's not like

962
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: a it's not like a bad It just you know,

963
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: it's not destructive. It's just like, man, I want what

964
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: he has. I know he can do it, So I

965
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: know I can do it, So let me get my

966
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: shit together and let me like, you know, let me

967
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: go ahead and make it happen. Let me go ahead

968
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: and do.

969
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: It, you know what I mean.

970
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: So it's real motivating. It's real motivating, and it goes

971
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: both ways. And yeah, it's just like it's just like

972
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: a it's a great relationship to share with them.

973
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

974
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool.

975
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: So just you specifically your time at Illinois, it was

976
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: actually a very fascinating time for that specific dB group.

977
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 4: Y'all were pretty dang good and I including yourself, I

978
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 4: believe over the course of like two or three years,

979
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 4: y'all had five guys from the same room get drafted,

980
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 4: one of which, like Devin Witherspoon just didn't like I

981
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 4: wrote him down, Nate Hobbs, like yourself, like Kirby Joseph

982
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: like that group was a very impressive core group of DB's.

983
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 4: How did you kind of like make your way in

984
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: through that group and kind of stand stand alone for yourself?

985
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean we were. What's crazy is

986
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: that I don't think we realized how good we were

987
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: at the time. Yeah, you know, Brett Bielman came in

988
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: and he built an amazing staff around us, and Ryan

989
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: Walters really transforms, you know, the careers of all of us.

990
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 2: You know, Kirby Kirby was a scout team wide receiver

991
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: before he went to safety and now he's making like yeah,

992
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: I mean, and obviously Devin Witherspoon doing what he does,

993
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think I think he just I think

994
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: Brett Billma just surrounded us with the right people, and

995
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: you know, Ryan Walter is breading a great staff with

996
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: like a n and like Grand O'Brien, everybody in that

997
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 2: room that really helped, you know, shape and inform that defense.

998
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 2: But it was for myself, I just I just tried

999
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: to be the best version of me, and we did

1000
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: some fun stuff disguise wise, and I was able to

1001
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: move around and really play closer line of scrimmage and

1002
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: you'll make plays. And I loved it. They loved it.

1003
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: And I think we all just fed off each other's energy. Yeah,

1004
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: And like I said, like we didn't know how good

1005
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: we were, but we're having fun doing it. And then

1006
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: we looked back back at the end of the year

1007
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: and we were like a top three defense in the

1008
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: nation and off of being like one of the worst

1009
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: defenses the year before. And I mean, it's just amazing.

1010
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: It's amazing how we all like help each other escalate

1011
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: the game. Just how fast, you know, we we went

1012
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: from the bottom to the top. And it's just cool

1013
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: now seeing everybody in the league a new thing. And

1014
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: you know, seeing Kirby get paid, you probably Spoon get

1015
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: paid next year. Jertavius Martin, Tony Adams, all these guys,

1016
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: Nate Hobbs, Yeah, and I mean it's it's a it's

1017
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: a really cool group part of Yeah.

1018
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy to look back on. All right, we've

1019
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 3: got we're kind of bumping up against the clocks. We

1020
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: have a few fun ones for you and then we're

1021
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: gonna get you out of here. But if you had

1022
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 3: the chance to go to outer space, would you?

1023
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? You said no, Yeah, Yeah I'm going.

1024
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: I just saw Project Hill Mary in Imax, which is

1025
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 4: the new Ryan Gosling space movie. I cried for an hour.

1026
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 4: Inst It's kind of like Interstllar.

1027
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1028
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: Since I saw it Interstellar, I've been like, you want

1029
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: your man, I need a something, shape shift time or something.

1030
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, even though you get a planet

1031
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: where like a minute is seven.

1032
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we conspiracy? All right.

1033
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: What is the last show you watched and loved?

1034
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the Day of the Jackal, The Jackal? No,

1035
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: I haven't really.

1036
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: Really good.

1037
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: Day of the Jackal or theack just called the jack

1038
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 4: You'll find it.

1039
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: All right. What is the most recent thing that you

1040
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: taught yourself?

1041
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: Wow? Damn?

1042
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: How to snowboard? That's yeah, it was a cool little journey.

1043
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: What to Bamp And.

1044
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I was in Bamp last summer? Yeah, yeah,

1045
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: in June.

1046
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: Are you a biker?

1047
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: Do you bike or no?

1048
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 4: We were just we were just hiking. Yeah, women, my family.

1049
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 4: It was the most beautiful place I've ever seen in

1050
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 4: my life.

1051
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: It's a it's an amazing I mean, the scenery is unbelievable.

1052
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: You can't beat it. I mean, yeah, I have.

1053
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: Also, that's so weird that we're three people, yeah podcast

1054
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: studio in Atlanta, Georgia, who are like, yeah, no, BAMF

1055
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: is great at this restaurant. Oh it was so good.

1056
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: Recommended next time we got you stay in the city. Yeah.

1057
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1058
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: We were in a we were like an hour outside

1059
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 4: of or not an hour outside. We were like an

1060
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 4: hour past Calgary, in like thirty minutes past bamp Lake

1061
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 4: Louise close, yeah, very close.

1062
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, which, like Louise was amazing.

1063
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: We did a horseback ride around Lake Louise and it was.

1064
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: I was only in six grades. My memory is a

1065
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 3: little but I remember when you did it.

1066
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: Was like, oh river rafting, that's cool.

1067
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really nice. Well city, this was so much fun.

1068
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: Thank you interesting dude. I can't wait to learn more

1069
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 3: about guys.

1070
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Yeah, thanks for having me on.

1071
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to welcome Brian Robinson Junior into the

1072
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: podcast studio. Welcome, welcome, thank you for coming and sitting

1073
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 4: down with me. So you're here in Atlanta, it's a

1074
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: fresh start for you a new look for you. What

1075
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 4: excites you about joining the organization right now in twenty

1076
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 4: twenty six.

1077
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: Uh, well, just coming into a fresh building, a lot

1078
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: of new faces, fresh faces, you know, a lot of

1079
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: guys you know coming in with you know purpose, you know,

1080
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: chips on their shoulders, and I just felt like, you know,

1081
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: it's a perfect fit for me to know, come in

1082
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: and you know for all the things that you know,

1083
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to doing. You know, no perfect opportunity

1084
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: for me.

1085
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: I'm excited to get you in Bajon in the same room.

1086
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 4: Do you have a relationship with Bijon? I'm sure. I

1087
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 4: mean the running Back Network it's a small network, the small.

1088
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: So we've we've ran it, we've ran into each other.

1089
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: We've never just connected like that. But you know, it's

1090
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: perfect time to do it.

1091
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: He's a cool dude. Honestly. One of the main things

1092
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: that I'm seeing on on Twitter is everyone talking about

1093
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 4: fantasy football and because of your b Robinson. He's b Robinson,

1094
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: just like meet the Robinson's of the Falcons backfield.

1095
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they usually the fantasy people. They have a miss

1096
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: they are making mistakes with that anyway. They always kind

1097
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: of screw those up in any way, So it's not

1098
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: going to be any different than what they've already been doing.

1099
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: So what excites you about, you know, working with Bajon?

1100
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 4: I know you come from the San Francisco forty nine

1101
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: ers with Christian McCaffrey, and there are two individuals that

1102
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: are are pretty close. And Bajon talks all the time about,

1103
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: you know, having someone like Christian to look up to

1104
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 4: and the way that he plays the game. Are there

1105
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: any similarities that you see kind of in their game

1106
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: and their usage.

1107
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: Definitely, They're both two extremely explosive guys. You know, they're

1108
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: very good at what they're what they do best, and

1109
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: I can see why he I can see why Bijon,

1110
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, looks up to Christian, you know as a

1111
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, as a player and as a professional. And

1112
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: I can also see why they they train together, and

1113
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, those guys are very explosive with their feet

1114
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: and speed, and I can see why those guys are connected.

1115
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 4: How do you feel like your skill set meshes well

1116
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 4: with kind of both of those guys, but mainly mainly Bejrawn.

1117
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 4: Now you're here to to kind of create this like

1118
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 4: one two punch a little bit in the backfield right.

1119
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: Well, obviously I like to use my size and my

1120
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: presence and to try to well not to try to

1121
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: definitely be physical or I'm more of a physical style player.

1122
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: You know, I might not be as fast and in

1123
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: certain areas, but you know, I can move pretty good

1124
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: for my size, and I like to I like to

1125
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: punish people.

1126
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: There you go.

1127
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure how how much physicality Bejon

1128
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: likes to include in his game, but I'm one that

1129
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: I'm extremely physical with.

1130
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 4: My game, lean into it. Yeah, So I want to

1131
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 4: go back in time a little bit. You obviously went

1132
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: to the University of Alabama. I'm a Georgia girl. We

1133
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: talked before this. It's okay, we're friends. Now we've met,

1134
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 4: it's all good. But I do want to ask you

1135
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 4: got your start in a very crowded running back room.

1136
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 4: That was a very talented running back room in Alabama.

1137
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 4: I believe Damien Harris, Josh Jacobs, Nausea Harris was at

1138
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 4: one point in yourself. We're all in the same room

1139
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: thinking back to that time. What did you take from

1140
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 4: from that experience and how did you carve your way

1141
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 4: through it?

1142
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: Like even before I even stepped foot into that room.

1143
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: I knew exactly what I was getting myself into. I

1144
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: knew it was going to be one of the hardest

1145
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: competitions of my life, and it ended up being one

1146
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: of the best experiences of my life because I was

1147
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: able to not only compete with those guys, but have

1148
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: a real connection with those guys. And those guys are

1149
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: like my brothers, and you know, just really forming that

1150
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: type of bund and we make each other better every

1151
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: single day. So yes, like it's a competition at the

1152
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 1: end of the day, but you know, we all compliment

1153
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: each other, and we all you know, show up to

1154
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: work every day to you know, help each other like

1155
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: get better. And you know, that was a very crowded,

1156
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 1: talented room. So obviously even you know, just being able

1157
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: to compete in a room like that, you know, it

1158
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: just allows you to learn some things about yourself as

1159
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: far as competition, but you know, just you know, showing

1160
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: up the work every day, you know, look at myself

1161
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: in the mirror, competing with myself and knowing that I'm

1162
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be in the room, you know, just talented.

1163
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, it just helped me, you know, gain the

1164
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: confidence I needed to continue to just push.

1165
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 4: Is there anything that you kind of learned during that

1166
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 4: time of your life that you still kind of carry

1167
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 4: with you even today as you've made your way and

1168
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: made your career in the NFL.

1169
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, sometimes you have to be patient. You know,

1170
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: even if even if you are ready to play right now,

1171
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: even if you are good enough to play right now,

1172
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: it may not just be your time. Your time may

1173
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: not just be right now, And you have to trust

1174
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: and keep faith in your process. Uh, where you want

1175
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: to go and where you want to end up, and

1176
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: as long as you stay committed to that, everything could

1177
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: work itself out.

1178
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: So you're originally from Alabama, Yes, like you you grew

1179
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 4: up in the state of Alabama, born and raised in Alabama,

1180
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 4: went to the varsity of Alabama. Who did you kind

1181
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: of look up to as a kid watching watching the game?

1182
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 4: Who were kind of some of your influences very early

1183
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 4: on early on?

1184
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: So obviously by the time I started watching Alabama football,

1185
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: there was winning games, winning championships, So they had a

1186
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: lot of faces and names like Tyrone pro throw at

1187
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: the time came through. And then then the Julio Jones

1188
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: and Trent mark Ingram and Trent Richardson and even just

1189
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: saving saving was enough for us to look up to

1190
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: at the time because of just his influence and how

1191
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: much he brought to the my home city, uh, you know,

1192
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: and just everything around col Saban. You know, it was

1193
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: enough influence for us. You know, he he made the

1194
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: impact of a lifetime.

1195
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: Do you have a favorite Nick Saban story that you

1196
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 4: can tell on the podcast. I'm sure there are some

1197
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 4: that you can't share. But is there any any story

1198
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 4: that you think back to your time playing for Nick

1199
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 4: Saban that you're like that is him to a tea?

1200
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, so just one day he was just fussing

1201
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: at me because I had an attitude during during like

1202
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: beginning parts of practice and he just came to me

1203
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: and just looked my way today. But nobody pissed him

1204
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: my cereals. Then like he'll he'll like joke or make

1205
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: a joke or something like that or fuss at you,

1206
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: but he'll come back in like joke like and let

1207
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: you know that like he care about you later.

1208
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love him. Have you watched him on college

1209
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: game day? What do you think about his Uh? Is

1210
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 4: he like is he the same on camera as he

1211
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 4: was in meeting rooms? Or does he have a little

1212
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 4: has he lived into a.

1213
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: Media role, he can open up a little bit more

1214
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: in media and meeting rooms because it's behind closed doors

1215
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: and the camera is not in his space. So when

1216
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: he's obviously on game day, he got all these cameras

1217
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: around the by him, so you know, he's trying to

1218
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: protect his brand and his professionalism, so he's a little

1219
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: bit more calm and chill. But you know, you get

1220
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: him in a room and you close the door and

1221
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: you let him be himself, you can get a little rowdy.

1222
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: I love it. I love that so great.

1223
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 4: So for you when you kind of are entering into

1224
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: this this time of your career, what are you hoping

1225
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 4: to get out of the next year, What are your

1226
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 4: goals for the next year? Just in yourself.

1227
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: I just honestly, I'm ready to just show people like

1228
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: what I can really do, like with with being able

1229
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: to play and play consistently and with the volu that

1230
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm more familiar with getting and playing. Just to show

1231
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: people how I can consistently play at a high level.

1232
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, I just feel like there was opportunity I

1233
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: kind of missed out on last year with the limited

1234
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: the limited opportunities that I got so, you know, just

1235
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: a new situation and a situation that provides me more

1236
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: opportunity to show who I am and on a more

1237
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: consistent basis.

1238
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 4: I love it. So when you are kind of like

1239
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 4: what's your routine, like, you know, what's your what's your

1240
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 4: off season look like? How do you stay up to

1241
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 4: date with all of kind of making sure your body's right,

1242
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 4: making sure you're ready to get up for training camp.

1243
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: Well, you definitely you don't have much time to take

1244
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: away from you know, the game once the season end,

1245
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: like you probably have like not even a week or

1246
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: so to kind of like relax and take your mind

1247
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: and body away from the game, and then you have

1248
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: to hit the ground running. So I'm back on schedule

1249
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,479
Speaker 1: just like in season, lifting two three times a week,

1250
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: on the field three times a week, and you know,

1251
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: just also balancing that out and taking care of my

1252
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: body and not trying to you know, be too excessive,

1253
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: you know in the off seasons because you know, you're

1254
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: you're not on campus, so you can't you can't you know,

1255
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: get the attention you need all the time. So just

1256
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: just taking care of your body, just staying active, staying fit,

1257
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: and you know, just keeping keeping your mind, body, and

1258
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: soul into it. Love it.

1259
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 4: So I have a few kind of like fun off

1260
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 4: the wall questions for you, and then we'll get you

1261
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 4: out of here because I know you have a busy day.

1262
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 4: What is something that you're terrible at but wish you

1263
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 4: could do? Well, that's question number one. Mine is do

1264
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 4: you want me to give you mine? Mine's dancing?

1265
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: I have horrible So I wouldn't say that I'm a

1266
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: terrible dancer. I feel like I can have rhythm when

1267
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: the time comes, but I'm not. I'm not. I wish

1268
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: I was better at like the TikTok.

1269
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 4: Oh, like TikTok dances, or like editing TikTok Yeah, like.

1270
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: Just being more personable, like when to tiktoking.

1271
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 4: And like social media media, Yeah I did.

1272
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1273
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 4: I just recently went and did like this yoga in

1274
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 4: the park thing that my friend. It was like a

1275
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 4: women in sports. It was like a conversation and we're

1276
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 4: doing yoga as we're having the conversation and she like

1277
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 4: cut it all together for Instagram and the whole time

1278
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, I feel like an idiot.

1279
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: Well, to say the least, I wish I was better

1280
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: at social media and I'm terrible at it.

1281
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 4: I completely understand that. I'm like, here's seven pictures. Hopefully

1282
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 4: this works for everybody. Okay, let's let's let me find

1283
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 4: another good one. Do you have a personal mantra something

1284
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 4: that is kind of like your code that you live by.

1285
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: I always to tell myself, just when I was younger,

1286
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: like yo, yo, just stay down until you come up.

1287
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: And what that means to me is like yo, like

1288
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: nobody knows, nobody knows the tunnel you can be in

1289
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: right now when when you're when you're staying down and

1290
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: you just the work that nobody ever sees, no hours

1291
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: in time and sacrifice that you put it into your

1292
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: craft and into your body and to your soul, and

1293
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: nobody never sees it. But that's your that's your part

1294
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: of staying down. And the come up is when they

1295
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: finally get to see it, you get to finally put

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Speaker 1: it on display and you finally make a play and

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Speaker 1: they want to know how you made that play because

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Speaker 1: of the numerous hours that I was putting until myself,

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Speaker 1: until my craft that nobody seen and I was just

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Speaker 1: staying down and me being able to put it on

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Speaker 1: display is to come up.

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Speaker 4: Oh I love that. That's a really good one. And

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Speaker 4: you said you've had that for for a while. I

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Speaker 4: always lived that way. I love that. That's so great. Okay,

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Speaker 4: last one, how long do you think you could survive

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Speaker 4: in a remote forest with no survival tools?

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Speaker 1: I think I make it out alive.

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Speaker 4: You takes. I think we are you You could like

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Speaker 4: build a fire, do that.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I can. I'll spend enough time just

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Speaker 1: outside in my life to just just.

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Speaker 4: Know how to operate, no no what Berry state, what not?

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Speaker 4: Ded you could.

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Speaker 1: Do just just move naturally through the forest. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I can, like I'll do I know how to

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Speaker 1: you can figure it out.

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Speaker 4: I can figure it out there you go, okay, great?

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Speaker 4: I love that. Well, thank you so much for sitting

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Speaker 4: down with me. I know you've got a busy day,

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Speaker 4: but super excited to have you in Atlanta and excited

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Speaker 4: to see what you're going.

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Speaker 2: To do with us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Excited to be here, excited to show you

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Speaker 1: what I can do.