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Speaker 1: I'm wearing tight eye and a hat. It's been a
Speaker 1: rough day. I think you look at raining here in
Speaker 1: the city. Um, and I took my job to a
Speaker 1: vet and we got halfway home and the rain started
Speaker 1: and she goes into a deep panic when it's raining.
Speaker 1: So we basically had to run home in the rain.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well because she just won't be I
Speaker 1: really the way they sense like storms coming or thunderstorms
Speaker 1: or snow storms or what, it's it's wild. Like we
Speaker 1: we went up and it was like snowing up in
Speaker 1: Flagsteff And the way Bertie was at like what is
Speaker 1: going on? And Brad's like, I think she can feel
Speaker 1: the storm coming. I just think it's like so crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have a totally different sense of atmosphere than we do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the terror and she does not like a little
Speaker 1: a few raindrops that's enough. But yes, I've been like
Speaker 1: running around today. Uh do you know like bubble wrap,
Speaker 1: you know, verse so things don't break when you're so
Speaker 1: I love popping those. It's like very fun for me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it takes me back when I
Speaker 1: was like a kid or something. But we were like
Speaker 1: really getting down bowing. I were like dancing and jumping
Speaker 1: on him. And then Bertie was like you would have
Speaker 1: thought she like ran into the room hit under the pillow.
Speaker 1: I felt so bad. Bertie, our dog, was like terrified
Speaker 1: of that noise, and I like love it. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's maybe not do that anymore. I felt more satisfying
Speaker 1: noises than that, and that feeling of popping those little bubbles.
Speaker 1: It's the feelings. But I have some somewhere around here.
Speaker 1: I've been ordering my Christmas gifts online, so I'm I
Speaker 1: have some bubble wrap in here. What also, like, I
Speaker 1: like just open an Amazon account, probably about a year
Speaker 1: and a half ago. I never did like online shopping before,
Speaker 1: but now it's wild how much I use Amazon and
Speaker 1: how long I went without it. But like my point
Speaker 1: is is how years ago, when like we were growing up,
Speaker 1: there was not the door and buy things. I mean,
Speaker 1: even your groceries can get delivered right you. You really
Speaker 1: don't have to leave your house, which is terrifying to
Speaker 1: me because I love nature. I love being outside. I
Speaker 1: love the new people. But like the other day of mcgrad,
Speaker 1: literally like we are groceries were delivered because we were
Speaker 1: coming in from out of town. A couple of Christmas
Speaker 1: gifts came to the door, and I'm like, literally, we
Speaker 1: everything just arrived, which is like I'm not complaining. That's
Speaker 1: super great that we are fortunate to be able to
Speaker 1: do that. But I just don't know, like like it's
Speaker 1: the same thing we talked about with like directions, Like
Speaker 1: just how much like everything is evolved basically, is what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. Like right, just the Internet and
Speaker 1: apps and the press of a button, everything is just
Speaker 1: like right there anywhere you could do anything. Like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I live in a doorman building here in Brooklyn, and
Speaker 1: the you know I've looked for a really long time,
Speaker 1: and it used to be the the doorman, you know,
Speaker 1: we're there to deal with people coming in and out.
Speaker 1: And then now they've basically become full time package guys
Speaker 1: because this is a huge building. So in especially around
Speaker 1: the holidays, the packages are piled up to the ceiling
Speaker 1: down there, you know, and so they have like you know,
Speaker 1: sift them and organize them. And get them to the residents.
Speaker 1: And so it's crazy because it's like every year that
Speaker 1: pile grows and grows and grows. So what would we
Speaker 1: do if we didn't have ups and FedEx delivery? And
Speaker 1: Amazon started it was like a book just books, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it used to be buying books online. That was like
Speaker 1: their big innovation. Yeah, And it's funny because like that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and like this, you know, these hospital episodes were watching
Speaker 1: are in time are so not that long ago, but
Speaker 1: even that stuff, like I bet there was so much
Speaker 1: less internet shopping traffic back then. It was probably the
Speaker 1: beginning of it, you know. And so that it's like
Speaker 1: in this such a short period of time that everything changes.
Speaker 1: Like this episode that we're gonna talk about today had
Speaker 1: a couple of you know, references to blogs and there
Speaker 1: were some good you know, flip phone moments. You know.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's like you just kind of get
Speaker 1: used to watching it, you forget that you've jumped in time,
Speaker 1: and then there it goes and it shows you. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think something about a blog, and I was like,
Speaker 1: remember blogs, everything's blogged. Now the whole world is a blog.
Speaker 1: Everything is well. And also you can ask you know
Speaker 1: a child, Hey, what do you want to do when
Speaker 1: you get older and they can? It is now like
Speaker 1: I want to be a blogger. When I was ten,
Speaker 1: that wasn't a thing. It didn't exist, So it's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Um okay, so this episode is how to Succeed vastness
Speaker 1: the succeeded since I love and it's based on the
Speaker 1: movie How to Succeed in Business Without Really trying? Um,
Speaker 1: did you? I enjoyed this episode, but like you were
Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of it. I'm not like,
Speaker 1: and I'm not just saying that because I actually really
Speaker 1: like I got kick out of it. Stuff was so great.
Speaker 1: I was like, I did this was you and I
Speaker 1: do like them, like the whole blare and chuck thing
Speaker 1: of like them, you know, doing this tug of war
Speaker 1: again and then her obviously getting in her own way again. Um.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed this episode, but it wasn't one of my favorite.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I felt like, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of feel that way too, But
Speaker 1: for me, it was a little bit because of the
Speaker 1: Jenny and Erica. I was forgetting Eric's snape. Um, Jenny
Speaker 1: and Eric's storyline, I found kind of upsetting. Like I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know the fact that like Jenny
Speaker 1: Queen be thing and the fact that she's being sort
Speaker 1: of her ethics are being tested in a way and
Speaker 1: she's being cruel to her like one close friend slash
Speaker 1: brother um. And so that storyline was kind of central
Speaker 1: and like it kind of bugged me a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just didn't enjoy it, you know what.
Speaker 1: You might have just hit it on the nose, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was like I ended and I'm like I
Speaker 1: usually am like not feeling this way when the show ends.
Speaker 1: And obviously so the glitz and the glam and there
Speaker 1: was the drama, like they nail all that every time.
Speaker 1: It just to me wasn't one of my favorite. I
Speaker 1: was like something was missing or I'm bothered by something
Speaker 1: and that very well maybe it because that did bother
Speaker 1: me quite a lot because I'm like, well we can
Speaker 1: jump into that. Let's okay. So here's where we left off. Yes,
Speaker 1: where do we leave off here? Okay, so we left off.
Speaker 1: Serena's best intentions backfire when her success at paying Carter's
Speaker 1: debt causes him to leave town with the Buckley family.
Speaker 1: Vanessa's doing a little better, having alienated her mother after
Speaker 1: her scheme to unseat Blair from the position of honor
Speaker 1: at the Freshman Toast goes horribly right. This defeat is
Speaker 1: only one of Blair's problems, however, Her manipulations began driving
Speaker 1: a wedge between herself and Chuck. And then there's a
Speaker 1: whole lot of Dan and Olivia stuff, and then there's
Speaker 1: there's just plenty of pieces to pick up in this episode. Sure,
Speaker 1: absolute yeah. And here in this whe we're going at,
Speaker 1: Chuck is preparing for his new club opening, which is
Speaker 1: exciting the old Empire Hotel and its club. He enlists
Speaker 1: Serena's help, but Blair begins to feel left out. Of course, Jenny,
Speaker 1: the new Queen Constant, struggles between proving herself and her
Speaker 1: friendship with Eric and Dan feels inferior after watching one
Speaker 1: of Olivia's steamy of on screen scenes. Um. Meanwhile, Lily
Speaker 1: tries to respect Rufus is a Halloween tradition, So yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a cute Halloween type storyline here, which is
Speaker 1: of course trigger treat dress up and comes up and
Speaker 1: that in that wig, I was, oh my god, Matthew said,
Speaker 1: up that was hilarious and this idea that like Rufus
Speaker 1: is so obsessed with like this you know, traditional idea
Speaker 1: of giving away you know, doing tricker treaders, and like
Speaker 1: Lily wants to go to the party and be fabulous,
Speaker 1: and then she kind of ends up staying home with
Speaker 1: him and buying children to come over to the house
Speaker 1: tree to tricker treat enlisting Vania to get a little
Speaker 1: foreign children to come over dress and change their Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: She didn't change her ring. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: but that's why. Also, like how Rufus has written is
Speaker 1: so lovely and you just care for him. That's so
Speaker 1: adorable that that's what he wants to do. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: it's very kids dressing up. It's so sweet. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we in the opening of this, right, Chuck has to
Speaker 1: basically he's basically like I need to disprove that I
Speaker 1: am Chuck Bass, like that I can take you know
Speaker 1: what dad did kind of thing. Like he's kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's kind of battling saying that like the hotel isn't
Speaker 1: doing very well, that it's like the you know that
Speaker 1: he doesn't have he's like a capacity. But then they're
Speaker 1: walking into the actual Empire Hotel, Like that is them
Speaker 1: Fair Hotel lobby, So that's a real location. Like the
Speaker 1: inside matches the outside, and they're walking inside and it's like,
Speaker 1: which doesn't happen often, right, right, Usually you have a mismatch,
Speaker 1: but but here they walk in and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: that hotel is pretty fabulous and it's hard to imagine
Speaker 1: that it's not doing well for any particular reason. But
Speaker 1: I guess that's the setup that we have here is
Speaker 1: that he you know, he feels like he's like falling
Speaker 1: behind a bit, and so you have Blair of course,
Speaker 1: who's trying to pick up the pieces take control um.
Speaker 1: But she see and I feel like with Chuck in
Speaker 1: this situation, you yeah, you would wonder why because it's
Speaker 1: not like a financial thing that they're like, we need
Speaker 1: the money to do this, Like got the money, they
Speaker 1: got the location. He obviously Chuck has you know, flavor
Speaker 1: and style. But I feel like this might be a
Speaker 1: thing where it's not just sometimes someone at seventeen eighteen
Speaker 1: year eighteen years old can take on some big, big
Speaker 1: business and just think like because you have all these
Speaker 1: things that just because it's always more than what's on
Speaker 1: the surface, like anything you do. That's why a lot
Speaker 1: of times like no one ever really understands what anyone
Speaker 1: else does, right until we don't. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's taking on this big, big job. And even if
Speaker 1: you have the money and the flavor and the style
Speaker 1: and this location and you you know, you're from New
Speaker 1: York and you get it, there's like little things that
Speaker 1: you have to do and make it like you know.
Speaker 1: And I don't not saying I know, but I think
Speaker 1: that's part of a little bit where Chuck is going
Speaker 1: to learn here, because it's not just like Okay, I
Speaker 1: got daddy's money and now I just have to you
Speaker 1: have to prove yourself because it's a lot of work.
Speaker 1: And it's also like it seems like it's important to
Speaker 1: him to too both live up to sort of his dad,
Speaker 1: you know, stand in his dad's shoes, but also be
Speaker 1: more ethical and have more integrity than his dad did.
Speaker 1: So like in this episode, we see that he wants
Speaker 1: to solve a problem, or originally initially, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go down the road of bron He wants
Speaker 1: to be like a legit businessman. He wants to be
Speaker 1: a problem solving and he doesn't want to just be
Speaker 1: you know, Conniver and uh sort of the he wants
Speaker 1: to be the positive part of Bart Bass and not
Speaker 1: the you know, kind of shadier part. And so it
Speaker 1: seems like he also has that, um, he's set the
Speaker 1: bar pretty high for himself here and he has that
Speaker 1: he's enlisted the help of that um mixologists there at
Speaker 1: the bar, Yeah, at the bar, and so he has
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a word of advice, I think, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, so he has that kind of more mature
Speaker 1: figure sort of bouncing ideas with him, you know, so
Speaker 1: you kind of see he's able to like express what
Speaker 1: his actual issue is that he wants to like do
Speaker 1: and he wants to do it right. And so of
Speaker 1: course Blair steps up to kind of help out because
Speaker 1: he's basically he's not forgiven her for her breach in
Speaker 1: an earlier um trust situation. So she's still in thinness
Speaker 1: with him, and so as she's trying to kind of
Speaker 1: like squeeze her way back in, you know, he's pushing
Speaker 1: her away right right, And so of course with the
Speaker 1: way she chooses to help him as by illicit means,
Speaker 1: by by reaching out to to Jack Bass, so it's
Speaker 1: like Jack, which, by the way, that takes a lot
Speaker 1: of balls. Like the situation that happened with Jack is
Speaker 1: basically why Chuck wasn't telling you he loved you, and
Speaker 1: you're going to call him and ask for a favor,
Speaker 1: like balls, Blair, it's pretty nice. And also you don't
Speaker 1: want Chuck calls Serena because he has a favor, but
Speaker 1: we don't know really what's going to come with this.
Speaker 1: And then she puts it on speaker. Blair puts it
Speaker 1: on speaker. That's like a tough situation for me because
Speaker 1: I think anytime someone calls you and you put it
Speaker 1: on speak or it's on speaker, you know how I
Speaker 1: keep being in your car and I think the courtesy
Speaker 1: is you always tell someone that yes, like oh, by
Speaker 1: the speaker, yeah. I felt My mom the other day
Speaker 1: was like, what were you going to say something wrong?
Speaker 1: Or are you gonna say something I shouldn't I shouldn't hear?
Speaker 1: And I said no, but maybe my friend you know,
Speaker 1: would have private right, yeah, something yeah that she doesn't
Speaker 1: want you to hear. So when she is on with
Speaker 1: Chuck and Chuck doesn't know, Blair standing right there and
Speaker 1: at the end of the call, He's like, and I
Speaker 1: don't want Blair in on this. I was like, because
Speaker 1: you get Blair a little that's like gasoline on a fire.
Speaker 1: Now She's okay, you don't want Blair. She's going to
Speaker 1: be showing up with some like feathers and like the
Speaker 1: little you have just made Yeah, oh man, yeah, so
Speaker 1: that was Yeah, that was a rough little moment. But
Speaker 1: you know, this introduces this idea which is very prevalent
Speaker 1: throughout this episode, is this storyline about Serena and her
Speaker 1: pr job. You know, the fact that she's working hard
Speaker 1: to impress Casey and like she wants to do well
Speaker 1: in this job and hold onto it. And I feel
Speaker 1: like because of previous episodes, we've talked about this gig
Speaker 1: that Serena has, and I feel like maybe that's another
Speaker 1: reason why this isn't maybe your or my favor episode
Speaker 1: is because it just is a little bit hard to
Speaker 1: see her. Not that there's anything in that wrong with
Speaker 1: we're working, it's just sort of something weird about this
Speaker 1: like persona, because like we um in the world of
Speaker 1: Gossip Girl, we understand that Serena vander Woodson is a
Speaker 1: big deal, right, and so watching her kind of be
Speaker 1: chased by paparazzi herself and then working on the other
Speaker 1: side of the camera doing the pr it's just a
Speaker 1: little bit of a weird Yeah, I think there's something
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, And the way Casey is treating her
Speaker 1: and talking to her and like bossing her around and
Speaker 1: stuff is just we're not used to that with Serena,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like yeah, so, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: just a couple of things. And again it's done very well.
Speaker 1: I mean, the episode was totally and it feels actually
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's why, because it's so real, like it
Speaker 1: actually feels like like I mean, there's some details probably
Speaker 1: that are a little bit you know, uh, dramatized for
Speaker 1: services of television, but the relationship between her boss and
Speaker 1: her and the way she like kind of feels put upon,
Speaker 1: Like you know, that is uncomfortable because we're not used
Speaker 1: to seeing Serena, I guess in that in that position, yeah,
Speaker 1: be treated like that. Yeah. And by the way, like Casey,
Speaker 1: she's killing this role, like the she's fantastic, very believable
Speaker 1: to me, But I'm like, how do you sleep at
Speaker 1: night if that's what you're doing and that's your job,
Speaker 1: Like and like makeup ship and do fake photos and
Speaker 1: like be the c I'm just like that is disgusting
Speaker 1: and gross and like you get paid to do that
Speaker 1: and you're like it's just really gross to me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we we learned in this in this episode that
Speaker 1: Olivia she's famous for this like vampire stuff, right, this
Speaker 1: big series, And so Nate brings and Nate brings the
Speaker 1: DVDs for um Dan to watch, and of course Dan
Speaker 1: watches it and he's overwhelmed by seeing his his new,
Speaker 1: brand new girlfriend and these like steamy sex scenes. Um
Speaker 1: and we so we learned that she has been connected
Speaker 1: and impressed with her co star that's her co star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that they were dating. But you know what when when
Speaker 1: this comes up in the in in the beginning of
Speaker 1: the episode, when um, we don't know what Nate gives
Speaker 1: him or what he's about to say that, you know,
Speaker 1: I just think it's time the build up of him, Like,
Speaker 1: I think it's time we're kind of getting serious. Me
Speaker 1: and Olivia blah blah blahm, Like what is he gonna do?
Speaker 1: Like I know he's not proposing to her, and then
Speaker 1: like what is going on? And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you see the DVDs and it's He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Nate's has something like it. Well, there's six hours of
Speaker 1: you know whatever the franchises that she's in. But it's
Speaker 1: definitely like a parallel to like Rob Pattinson and Christopan Stewart.
Speaker 1: And even the name of the character and the name
Speaker 1: was like Patrick something. His name is something really similar,
Speaker 1: Patrick Roberts. Yeah, and so they have Yeah, they've definitely
Speaker 1: set that up like that. And then you know, it
Speaker 1: was making me think and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I've never done h a show where I had like
Speaker 1: a prolonged, you know, romantic relationship at the center of
Speaker 1: my storyline or anything like I mean except for you know,
Speaker 1: Torone and Vanya. But I've never had that experience of
Speaker 1: having a partner watch those kind of scenes. Have you
Speaker 1: had that this your guy watch you do like kissing
Speaker 1: scenes and stuff or what I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: what he's seen that I have because I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I've had I've had many scenes like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I played the stripper in the internship, so
Speaker 1: it's like me and my underwear that I don't really
Speaker 1: get intimate in their um Kingdom, I had really crazy
Speaker 1: sex scenes um in here. I mean, I've also hooked
Speaker 1: up with Dan Chuck and Nate Vanessa. I think it's
Speaker 1: the only one that hooked up with all three of them.
Speaker 1: So that said, a lot of times in roles I
Speaker 1: do have like, yeah, yeah, you've had a hook up,
Speaker 1: had experience than me. Yeah. Yeah, it's a wild thing,
Speaker 1: because first of all, I always say that any sex
Speaker 1: scene or physical scene like that, like intimate that looks
Speaker 1: very real and on point, I always say are the
Speaker 1: most uncomfortable ones to shoot because the lighting and the
Speaker 1: situation and the angle the camera. But yet you gotta
Speaker 1: make it real. But sometimes, like the camera guy like Jose,
Speaker 1: you gotta put your shoulder weight down to the left
Speaker 1: and then make sure this arm is over so that
Speaker 1: we see your eyes when we're doing the cover from
Speaker 1: his shoulder and I'm supposed to be like and I'm
Speaker 1: like tilted to the side. I'm like, yeah, can you
Speaker 1: see my shoulder? Okay, We're good. I Meanwhile, when you
Speaker 1: see the movie or the show it's like a very
Speaker 1: intimate scene, I always think they're really weird. I was
Speaker 1: just watching The White Lotus the other night, you know
Speaker 1: the HBO. Yeah, and there was like a kissing moment
Speaker 1: with Jennifer Coolidge and it was like a two shot,
Speaker 1: but it was like they were in profile and you
Speaker 1: can see that they were using tongue because it was
Speaker 1: like so necessary for the kind of kiss it was.
Speaker 1: But it was like, right, a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're acting and you you know, you keep your
Speaker 1: tongue in your own mouth because you know, it's like whatever,
Speaker 1: Like sometimes when you have to do like certain things,
Speaker 1: you have to like reach across that boundary. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean I think that part of what happens
Speaker 1: in this episode is that you know, Dan, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a brand new relationship, he's still young. They've built
Speaker 1: in this fact that like they haven't really been intimate
Speaker 1: with each other yet, and it kind of gets kicked
Speaker 1: off because there's like a paparazzi photo of her reaching
Speaker 1: into like a condom free condom jar like in the
Speaker 1: health clinic at the at school. So it kind of
Speaker 1: starts with this like innuendo of like this sort of
Speaker 1: beginning of their sexual relationship. And so then when he's
Speaker 1: faced with this intimacy on screen, and then also knowing
Speaker 1: that it was rumored that that was her boyfriend, it
Speaker 1: makes it all more lowly than you know anything, that
Speaker 1: totally you were talking about that. But then she comes
Speaker 1: she comes in and she's like, well, no, it was
Speaker 1: all just for you know, for publicity, right, That's what
Speaker 1: she originally tells me. He wasn't my real boy friend.
Speaker 1: It was just yeah, that the idea being that, like
Speaker 1: it was helping both of their careers. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: also like that when we find out that she's lying
Speaker 1: about that, I'm like, Okay, your situation is already unique
Speaker 1: and difficult and interesting to navigate because here is Dan
Speaker 1: who doesn't understand it um and even if you can
Speaker 1: be supportive and wonderful, it's still like a not you know,
Speaker 1: it's still kind of a wild situation. Like your girlfriend
Speaker 1: is going to go travel and be in different cities
Speaker 1: doing press with someone who she was rumored to be dating.
Speaker 1: You then lie about it and then actually you because
Speaker 1: you're making it very difficult. Yeah, Like if this is
Speaker 1: already going to be a lot for Dan, So I
Speaker 1: was like very like, yeah, a lot of things bothered
Speaker 1: me in this episode. R right now that I'm like
Speaker 1: hearing myself. I'm like yeah, and then Casey is like
Speaker 1: really invested. Obviously she represents the guy Patrick Patrick Roberts
Speaker 1: or something, so she represents the other actor, and she
Speaker 1: wants for his career's sake, she wants him to be
Speaker 1: photographed with Olivia. She basically tasks Serena with making sure
Speaker 1: that Dan is not around so that this you know,
Speaker 1: that they can be they can have these photos that
Speaker 1: the two of them are still potentially together. So Srina
Speaker 1: Serena in an awkward position. So basically there's this um
Speaker 1: big Halloween speak easy event is happening at Chuck's Bar.
Speaker 1: Everybody's going the party of the episode, so everybody's going,
Speaker 1: but the case he says that at the end of
Speaker 1: the episode, She's like, you got my clients to go
Speaker 1: to the biggest party of the year, so right right right,
Speaker 1: which is which is also like then shut down because
Speaker 1: of the liquor license. I'm like, oh man, okay, you
Speaker 1: know the moment. At one point during that party, Blair
Speaker 1: is talking to Serena and basically like, well, we need
Speaker 1: She's breaking down what they did to make this happen,
Speaker 1: and Serena's like not getting that, Like okay, but now
Speaker 1: the party is going to be shut down, like how
Speaker 1: is this a good thing? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And Blair's like backing it up and has her whole
Speaker 1: little scheme like she knows that this is going to
Speaker 1: be just fine, and all of a sudden, when Chuck
Speaker 1: is upset about it, Blair wants to leave and want
Speaker 1: Serena to go with her. I think I'm actually mixing.
Speaker 1: I'm mixing two scenes that but it's basically like in
Speaker 1: the very beginning, we realize that there's not you know,
Speaker 1: the have a list real license. He's in trouble, and
Speaker 1: it's the party is still about, you know, coming down
Speaker 1: to go down to happen later, and he basically kicks
Speaker 1: Blair out in Serena's like, I'm staying with Chuck, like
Speaker 1: stop meddling, right, and then yes, but do you know
Speaker 1: when Blair looks at her and says, Serena, let's go,
Speaker 1: she said no, I'm ann stay with Chuck. And then
Speaker 1: in the other scene, yep, this is right later in
Speaker 1: the episode. Now Serena wants to leave and Nolair's like,
Speaker 1: remember when you chose Chuck? I Am yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: think along the lines, but it was like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: definitely are in a rift. Now it's like all that's
Speaker 1: the other thing too, is they were in a good
Speaker 1: way and now they're Now we leave this episode and
Speaker 1: they're they're in a fight. And Eric aspect this Jenny
Speaker 1: Eric thing, which is so it's basically like Eric and
Speaker 1: his boyfriend. His boyfriend has like that quality that a
Speaker 1: little bit um Vanessa has, which is the he's has
Speaker 1: some little distance from the inner workings in terms of
Speaker 1: his point of view, so he's able to kind of
Speaker 1: remind Eric that some of this is ridiculous. And so
Speaker 1: when Jenny has her whole hierarchy on the Mets steps,
Speaker 1: basically no one can sit above her. Yeah, and Eric's
Speaker 1: boyfriend is like, let's go sit above her. And then
Speaker 1: Eric has to kind of, you know, pick his boyfriend
Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, let's you know, and also it's
Speaker 1: the more reasonable course of action. And then Jenny gets
Speaker 1: bad and she has to assert her dominance with her
Speaker 1: you know, she has to keep her power, and I
Speaker 1: guess the idea is that she's like losing herself. So
Speaker 1: she's if you ask her, she thinks that she's like
Speaker 1: putting it on. But like they kind of allude to
Speaker 1: the fact that, yeah, she might be putting it on,
Speaker 1: but she's starting to change, like morph into this thing
Speaker 1: that she's pretending to be. Yeah, and I feel like
Speaker 1: the molding of that is not just like her taking
Speaker 1: it on, it's also these girls. Like if the whole
Speaker 1: thing is just so weird to me because I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's it's also gross to me because I'm like, you
Speaker 1: think that, like you have to sit here and these
Speaker 1: people have to like bow down to you, and like
Speaker 1: these two guys can't sit like, I'm like, that's ridiculous. Um.
Speaker 1: So I mean see, when I think about it, everything
Speaker 1: in this episode just just like the wrong way. Jenny
Speaker 1: on the stairs, Yeah, run me the wrong way. And
Speaker 1: I was like, they should go sit up there. Who
Speaker 1: you just sit with your girls there and do your
Speaker 1: thing and mind your own business and let them sit
Speaker 1: where they want to sit. They're not even bothering you, right,
Speaker 1: that's annoying. Let me ask you this because I didn't
Speaker 1: quite understand this. So in the beginning of the episode,
Speaker 1: we see the Lily and Jenny are looking in Jenny's
Speaker 1: closet and Lily is like, why don't you clean out
Speaker 1: some of your old clothes that don't fit you anymore,
Speaker 1: so you can like, you know, move forward. And then
Speaker 1: Jenny's like, no, no, they fit, they fit. And then
Speaker 1: at the end of this episode, once everything is said
Speaker 1: and done, Jenny goes and throwing things. So the idea
Speaker 1: is that what's the idea there? So it's that Jenny
Speaker 1: understands at the end that she's basically like burying her
Speaker 1: old self and she's this new beast. Is that what
Speaker 1: it is? I guess that's the underlining thing of it.
Speaker 1: But I didn't really connect those two from the beginning
Speaker 1: to the end. I forgot. I forgot that happened at
Speaker 1: the beginning. I don't know. But she like throws out
Speaker 1: her sewing machine and yeah, so it's basically like we
Speaker 1: see this transformation of Jenny in this episode, which is unpleasant,
Speaker 1: and I think that's purpose because that's the point. But
Speaker 1: it's like totally idea that she gets lost. And it's
Speaker 1: sad because Eric is the one person who you know,
Speaker 1: he always gets her, They get each other, and for
Speaker 1: her to sacripold him and his boyfriend, you know, in
Speaker 1: her power hungry quest, I know, and I'm all like,
Speaker 1: for what? And that's throwing eggs at her at his boyfriend.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so messed up and wrong and rude,
Speaker 1: and like what you get from that also, And i mean,
Speaker 1: you know this is uh it's like a high school
Speaker 1: scenario and you have an out gay couple and then
Speaker 1: one of them is all excited to go see his
Speaker 1: boyfriend and then gets like egged in the street. It's
Speaker 1: just like particularly like down and dirty. It's like not
Speaker 1: it feels bad because we really we like the we
Speaker 1: like those two, we like them together. And then to
Speaker 1: see all those little minions go after him like that
Speaker 1: was just like it was in such bad taste, which
Speaker 1: is of course why Eric was like, I'm not speaking
Speaker 1: to anymore as a sister or as a friend. And
Speaker 1: she and then she has to face herself in the
Speaker 1: mirror basically, so it's brutal. It's totally and I'm like
Speaker 1: I like that. Eric was like that, yeah, she needs
Speaker 1: to be put in her place a little bit because
Speaker 1: that is very mean. And it's and again for what
Speaker 1: for you to sit above people and boss people around.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's gross. Yeah, yeah, So I think
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's just it's it's so well
Speaker 1: done that this downfall, oh totally. And and the way
Speaker 1: Taylor plays it, I mean, obviously she it's killing it
Speaker 1: and doing such a great job because I'm just yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I'm like, stop it, Jenny. And like when Jenny and
Speaker 1: Lily have the conversation because Eric comes home it must
Speaker 1: be during the day and and Lily says, oh, are
Speaker 1: you sick or like why are you home? And he
Speaker 1: Eric looks and it's Rufus and Lily sitting there and
Speaker 1: he says, um, asked Jenny. Yeah, So Lily says, I'll,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll take this one to Rufus. And then
Speaker 1: she's sitting with Jenny and I have to tell you
Speaker 1: that's a tough spot for Lily to be in because
Speaker 1: I'm a step mom and I'm a mom, and if
Speaker 1: that was the situation with my step with my kids,
Speaker 1: they're my kids. You know, that's a really tough spot
Speaker 1: to be in because you don't want anyone being mean
Speaker 1: to any anyone, let alone let alone the sibling, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's a tough spot because
Speaker 1: it's it's a between you feeling hurt for your kids
Speaker 1: or wanting to be able to talk to them and
Speaker 1: make sure you know this is handled in a nicer way.
Speaker 1: You're between a rock and a hard place because yea,
Speaker 1: and also you're asserting a discipline and authority. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: it is right, and feeling for this is like a
Speaker 1: mother figure to Jenny. So it's also really feeling like
Speaker 1: even Jenny says it to her, you know how these
Speaker 1: girls are lily so you know, I just was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: she's got a feel for Jenny, so that Jenny can
Speaker 1: fit in because it's those weird years where everyone's trying
Speaker 1: to find themselves and fit in and don't really have
Speaker 1: to do really understand the importance of social position too.
Speaker 1: So it's like what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, it's wild. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: So it's like she's got that, and then she's got
Speaker 1: the emotions and everything with being her kids. It's just
Speaker 1: I was I'm like, oh, this is a tough spot
Speaker 1: for her, because any kind of way you slice it,
Speaker 1: it's just tough. Yeah, if you get mad at Jenny
Speaker 1: or or you know, I don't want to say ground her.
Speaker 1: I mean, well she kind of does, right. She's like,
Speaker 1: you can't go to the party unless Eric goes with you. Right,
Speaker 1: it's the interesting whenever they put the prontal rules down, right. Also,
Speaker 1: can we just talk about Eric's green hat that he
Speaker 1: had on at that party. Yeah, Eric looks so like
Speaker 1: so cute. He's like that, he's so cute. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: also that people looked really good. I mean that was
Speaker 1: a smart idea to have the Halloween episode be like
Speaker 1: a It's flapper party or party, because the costumes, like
Speaker 1: Serena's outfit was amazing, the cape she had liked. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so they go to the big party and like the
Speaker 1: whole kerfuffle at the party is that. First of all,
Speaker 1: now they have a liquor license, but we know that
Speaker 1: it's because of Jack because Blair made this call. But
Speaker 1: we don't realize until half of the party that the
Speaker 1: liquor license is not real because Jack's like pulling one
Speaker 1: over on him and I couldn't So I didn't even
Speaker 1: really realize that til you just said that right now. That, yeah,
Speaker 1: because remember there's that. Yeah. So, so Chuck gets mad
Speaker 1: at Blair and sends her away. She's at home playing
Speaker 1: chess with her self and Deronda is like sna is
Speaker 1: like vacuuming the carpet with one of those little rollie
Speaker 1: vacuums and then tell and then like killing it chess
Speaker 1: and saying the funniest things. And then the flowers arrived
Speaker 1: and she thinks they're from Chuck, but really they're from Jack,
Speaker 1: and I guess the flowers hard and the flowers said
Speaker 1: like ha ha, got you or something, because then she knew,
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then Chuck knew too, So
Speaker 1: basically they knew that this license was fake. And then
Speaker 1: the police were going to come. So Chuck ends up
Speaker 1: calling the police himself in order to because they want
Speaker 1: to get ahead of get ahead of it, right, And
Speaker 1: that kind of turns it into the party of the
Speaker 1: year apparently, So it's cool. It's cool to have your
Speaker 1: party shut down, I guess. But Blair is so much
Speaker 1: smarter than that. Yeah, Like you really think you're gonna
Speaker 1: go and ask Jack Bass for a favor for Chuck essentially,
Speaker 1: even if it's for Blair, it's for Chuck in this situation,
Speaker 1: and think he's going to just do it with no nothing.
Speaker 1: That was a little bit backfiring. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess because he owed her she thought it was the thing,
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a little bit But he's so
Speaker 1: he like you can't trust him at all, you know, no,
Speaker 1: no kidding, Yeah, but but also like we have to
Speaker 1: discuss uh. Deronda's little actions in this episode were so
Speaker 1: funny because I didn't remember anything to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Like when I saw it, I remembered it, but I
Speaker 1: hadn't remembered it in in general. But the scene with
Speaker 1: the chest, I think it was really funny because I
Speaker 1: have that line about it's hard to date a powerful man,
Speaker 1: and I guess that my implications maybe I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: von Yer or something, which is so cute because I
Speaker 1: get all lost in thought. But it was it was cute,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of like like rustling around.
Speaker 1: But the first scene that Deronda appears in this episode
Speaker 1: was was like I really like I got a kick
Speaker 1: out of And it was basically because Blair and Chuck
Speaker 1: have been in a fight, Blair has had too much
Speaker 1: time on her hands, so she's like making Dorota get
Speaker 1: a pedicure with her pure yeah, And so they're having
Speaker 1: a pedicure together and then Chuck finally comes over and
Speaker 1: Deronda is like, oh thank god. You know, when when
Speaker 1: Blair and Mr Chuck er in a fight, you know,
Speaker 1: Dorota has no time to go the movies or anything.
Speaker 1: It just gets foot bothering and it was like so funny.
Speaker 1: But I remembering that that was the craziest scene I've
Speaker 1: ever filmed, because they sent us the script and then
Speaker 1: they rewrote that scene. I think it was the day
Speaker 1: before I got new pages and I saw that there
Speaker 1: was a pedicure involved. So the you know, makeup department
Speaker 1: gals called me up and they're like, you have to
Speaker 1: have your feet out tomorrow. We're sorry for the late notice,
Speaker 1: but go get a pedicure tonight because like you know,
Speaker 1: they can't pedicure your feet on set because like there
Speaker 1: was in the shot, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: so then I kind of heedicure a like let my
Speaker 1: local salon, and then I went to the set and
Speaker 1: the shot that they ended up using was a little different,
Speaker 1: but the one that they planned and they did first
Speaker 1: was like the camera started in a total close up
Speaker 1: on the bottom of my foot and then it was
Speaker 1: like backing up, and I think it was Amy came
Speaker 1: and like saved me and was like you can't do
Speaker 1: that to her. That's not cool, and she was like
Speaker 1: it's a foot, you know, you don't he wants her
Speaker 1: foot like on the camera like that. And my feet
Speaker 1: were not bad, they were fine, but it was still
Speaker 1: like really weirdly, like vulnerable to put your foot out
Speaker 1: on a came that's a very odd shot. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I remember that the ladies who are playing the pedicurist,
Speaker 1: it was also really awkward because they're not pedocurists, they're actors.
Speaker 1: So it was also funny because you don't usually. It's
Speaker 1: like a different kind of intimacy because they had to
Speaker 1: rub our feet and like touch our feet and stuff,
Speaker 1: and both me and Late and we're like, we're sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I mean when our feet were
Speaker 1: clean and we were like we were like cleaning them
Speaker 1: and everything. But it was like so weird because it
Speaker 1: was like us and these two actresses and um with
Speaker 1: our feet out, you know, which is you don't ever
Speaker 1: think about that stuff on TV too, And then um,
Speaker 1: but it turned out so cute and then Dorote was
Speaker 1: getting all tickled and stuff. But oh my gosh, it's
Speaker 1: so funny. I loved your scenes were really great. And
Speaker 1: you know what's so funny? What popped in my head
Speaker 1: when it was you both sitting there you and Layton
Speaker 1: getting the pedicures. I just in my mind of Mike,
Speaker 1: you guys had to have had so much fun and
Speaker 1: just laughed at time, because like, yeah, we were laughing
Speaker 1: so much. You didn't have much moving because you're seated,
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean, A lot of the
Speaker 1: times you don't even for me, and those kind of
Speaker 1: things sometimes I don't even get up from those because
Speaker 1: there's not just yeah. So whether I read it, reading
Speaker 1: my book or sitting with my co star, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: I love those kind of things because I in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can only imagine how many laughs you
Speaker 1: two were having. Yeah, we were just sitting there. It
Speaker 1: was such a whole ridiculous situation and everything, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so cute. And then I always loved the
Speaker 1: scenes where when Ed was in the scene too, when
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I always had scenes with lat
Speaker 1: and then when Ed would come in, like when Mr
Speaker 1: Chuck would come in, because I always had a fun
Speaker 1: twist and and I actually feel like in this episode
Speaker 1: you can see that because like I sometimes do such
Speaker 1: ridiculous like exits, like in this one, as I'm exiting,
Speaker 1: I like turn around and like I do this whole thing.
Speaker 1: They're like, because I'm like looking at Mr Mr Chuck
Speaker 1: and Miss Blair with this like great enthusiasm, and I
Speaker 1: actually you can kind see that like ed slightly slightly
Speaker 1: like like giggles a little bit like laughs a little
Speaker 1: tiny bit at it, Like I really just like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Crazy? Lud love that anyway, So Dorota
Speaker 1: got in some action because of the fact that Blair
Speaker 1: was on the outs with Mr Chuck. So um. But
Speaker 1: then basically how did they make up? They make up
Speaker 1: in the at the party because they end up working together,
Speaker 1: but how does it? Yeah, but I feel like she
Speaker 1: says something to like, I just wanted you to know
Speaker 1: that you needed me, But I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was at the point. She apologizes, right right, right, she
Speaker 1: apologizes in a sincere way, and then they basically worked
Speaker 1: together what they come up with that solution of calling
Speaker 1: the police on themselves, So then they're like they're back
Speaker 1: to like teamwork and making the dreamwork. Right? Can we
Speaker 1: also talk about how Patrick ends up kissing Serena? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the other big the movie stars is Olivia Burke's
Speaker 1: on screen love interest is also Olivia's ex boyfriend who's
Speaker 1: she broke his heart. She tells Dan. Olivia tells Dan
Speaker 1: this about Patrick, and then he kisses Serena and I'm
Speaker 1: like that, so well, it's basically like, yeah, Serena is
Speaker 1: being tasked by Casey to make sure that they get
Speaker 1: this Pepperazzi photo together with him kissing him and Olivia
Speaker 1: like so that they the world thinks they're still dating.
Speaker 1: But Serena is torn because she believes in Dan and
Speaker 1: and Olivia's relationship, and so I think it's one of
Speaker 1: those moments where she asserts her own kind of power
Speaker 1: um against Casey and does what she thinks is right.
Speaker 1: So she basically allows she like has this great moment
Speaker 1: where she like throws open the doors and it's Dan
Speaker 1: and um, like you're kissing, and she's like, hey, everybody, look,
Speaker 1: it's a live kissing her boyfriend Dan. Yeah. And so
Speaker 1: they're kissing and for the cameras and and Dan asks
Speaker 1: Olivia like are you okay with this? And she's like yes,
Speaker 1: and they kiss for the cameras and um, and then
Speaker 1: Casey's over there fuming because essentially Casey thinks that you know,
Speaker 1: if Patrick Olivia is like fake boyfriend, if he is
Speaker 1: not connected to her romantically. Then his career is dead
Speaker 1: and it's her job as his publicist to keep it afloat.
Speaker 1: So she's like upset. She's like, Serena, you're getting fired.
Speaker 1: You can see it in her eyes. And then Serena
Speaker 1: makes the bold decision to say, like one of the
Speaker 1: Paparesi says, well, if Olivia's dating that guy, then who's
Speaker 1: Patrick dating. And Serena goes, he's dating me, and then
Speaker 1: she like goes in for this thing and they had
Speaker 1: like a dip and a kiss and everything, so it's
Speaker 1: like she and then at the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: you realize that Olivia is like, well, good job you
Speaker 1: you know, you made you made the party of the year.
Speaker 1: All my kinds were there, you know, in essence, you
Speaker 1: did everything opposite of what I said, but you nailed it.
Speaker 1: So good work. And she's like, but now you have
Speaker 1: to date this guy. You have to pretend to date him,
Speaker 1: and the Serena is like, well, that's easy because he's cute,
Speaker 1: and she's like, just wait till the second day. So
Speaker 1: apparently he's a nightmare. So oh good god, so crazy.
Speaker 1: I just was like laughing because that's so like Serena
Speaker 1: would end up with him, yeah, even if it's just
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. Right, And of course Serena
Speaker 1: always ends up, like we're talking about earlier, she always
Speaker 1: ends up in the paparazzi photo herself because right, yeah,
Speaker 1: she can't stay on the other side of the the
Speaker 1: old camera, can't say no no. And then, I know
Speaker 1: we talked about this earlier, but I still was just
Speaker 1: literally laughing out loud between your scenes. And then when
Speaker 1: when Rufus walks down in that wig, I was the
Speaker 1: wig is thet and he's like the way he flips
Speaker 1: and it's always like he's flipping it and like his
Speaker 1: hands here, I'm like, oh man, yeah, and they're like
Speaker 1: chemistry though, like she can see really like finding it
Speaker 1: funny too. It was so cute, and of Vanya bringing
Speaker 1: up the kids. Yeah, the fact that she keeps and
Speaker 1: she hands him that big thick roll of bills like
Speaker 1: she's like for her services, you know, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's on staff, but it's funny because she
Speaker 1: hands him like such a thick roll of dollars or whatever.
Speaker 1: They are amazing, So it's really funny. Where where are
Speaker 1: we left with Jenny and Eric at this point though,
Speaker 1: she's just she was taking all this stuff out of
Speaker 1: the closets, and are they in a fight. They're they're
Speaker 1: not talking, he's not talking. The last thing we see,
Speaker 1: I think is him saying to her, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking to anymore as a sister or a friend,
Speaker 1: as my sister or my friend, right, And then she
Speaker 1: goes into a room and just like rips everything out
Speaker 1: of the closet. Right. She says something to him too, though, like, well,
Speaker 1: you know how it is like kind of like she
Speaker 1: has to be this person there that's not really her,
Speaker 1: kind of like that's what I took from it at least,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, no, so you're gonna treat him
Speaker 1: poorly in front of people or be disrespectful to him,
Speaker 1: and then when you get home behind stores, we can
Speaker 1: be okay. Like she expects him to understand it, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's not just being like yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: because it's not right. Right. It's just I have a
Speaker 1: hard time seeing her like that because I just know Jenny.
Speaker 1: That's not Yeah, it's so in her far from Jenny, right,
Speaker 1: And so I guess the idea is that anyone can
Speaker 1: turn into that with a little bit of power, you know, Well, definitely,
Speaker 1: I think I can't remember how it pans out, but
Speaker 1: I mean we've got to see her come back from
Speaker 1: the dark side, right right. And then it was like
Speaker 1: what I was saying before to the way the girls
Speaker 1: to kind of even they were saying something about the
Speaker 1: guys sitting on the steps above them. They're like, no
Speaker 1: one can sit about this whole thing. So it's like
Speaker 1: they're they're feeding into it and adding to it as well.
Speaker 1: I'm not pointing a finger to them that Jenny is
Speaker 1: her own person and is really bringing this on herself
Speaker 1: as well. But it's it's definitely like these girls are
Speaker 1: so caught up in this, like queen be following the
Speaker 1: leader here yea, when there's a lot of seats on
Speaker 1: the stairs, like, dare you looking at our round? Right?
Speaker 1: I know it's and also there are other people right, Um,
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's funny because I've been to the met
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, and every time I go,
Speaker 1: it's inevitably someone will recognize me on the steps because
Speaker 1: they're always gossip girl fans to go to visit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like such an iconic thing. But yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but do you think the Mets steps. It's like kind
Speaker 1: of like high school cafeteria would be for like a
Speaker 1: more normal high school experience, right, It's like this idea
Speaker 1: of who sits where and social politics and it's just
Speaker 1: kind of painful to see, you know it is. Man,
Speaker 1: I get wanting to fit in and be the cool
Speaker 1: person and that, but I just I don't get being
Speaker 1: mean to people. So yeah, it's so rough how kids are.
Speaker 1: And I really don't think you at that time in
Speaker 1: your life, you know the effect that that has on people,
Speaker 1: because it just kind of seems like it's okay to do.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't seem to click in a way at
Speaker 1: that time because I remember the girl. I mean, I
Speaker 1: remember girls being Superman in high school totally, and at
Speaker 1: the time it's horrible for the person it's happening to.
Speaker 1: And I remember to my mom even saying like that,
Speaker 1: trust me, this all be You'll laugh at this one day. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if laughing is the right word, but
Speaker 1: definitely that was ridiculous. Yes, you can definitely like look
Speaker 1: at it in another lens and things like that, but
Speaker 1: at the time I wanted to switch schools. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to ever see these girls again. And for them
Speaker 1: it probably felt like it wasn't that big of a
Speaker 1: deal the way they were treating people, you know, right,
Speaker 1: what's that group mentality that group think? Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think most people are doing it from even those like
Speaker 1: bully the bullying and stuff in the high school politics.
Speaker 1: It's like comes from insecurity or place of fear, dissert
Speaker 1: your own position or whatever. And I think with Jenny
Speaker 1: it's probably even a better example than Blair, because Jenny
Speaker 1: is someone who had a kind of a strong sense
Speaker 1: of self or like identity, but then in this high
Speaker 1: school world, it's like she tried to assert like a
Speaker 1: different way. But then it's like it almost becomes a
Speaker 1: survival mechanism. So it's like she has to grab for
Speaker 1: that top slot or or be be stumped. You know.
Speaker 1: So it's like kind of see it with her because
Speaker 1: it isn't kind of integrals because like with Blair, it's
Speaker 1: such a personality trait and it's kind of a comedic
Speaker 1: personality trait and we kind of forgive her for it
Speaker 1: because we're like so silly almost, and like it's it's
Speaker 1: like almost fun to watch. But then with Jenny, it's
Speaker 1: just seems so mean because it's not her thing her right,
Speaker 1: like you're saying. Also, the way Layton played it, the
Speaker 1: way they both did it makes us that's why we're
Speaker 1: still sitting here talking to you, because they both did
Speaker 1: such a great job and the way it's written, and
Speaker 1: it had to be almost two different ways like that,
Speaker 1: Otherwise it wouldn't it wouldn't be fun watching Jenny. Even
Speaker 1: though I'm like bothered with her, I was still interested
Speaker 1: in what was going to happen and what's going on.
Speaker 1: I'm just bothered. So I'm like, I know Jenny is
Speaker 1: better than that, right, So all in all, it's just
Speaker 1: like very brilliant. But yeah, I also think, um, I
Speaker 1: noticed in this episode that I feel like we're starting
Speaker 1: to feel the kind of ebb of n y U
Speaker 1: like because over time in these seasons they kind of
Speaker 1: just sort of drift away from this the college based storylines,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I feel like this,
Speaker 1: you see Blair in that like dorm room, but it's
Speaker 1: transforming even more and more into like a regular kind
Speaker 1: of room. So I feel, you know, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: So we start to see that here and obviously I
Speaker 1: guess Vanessa's on vacation seeing her sister's gigs. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess she's in Albany at her sister's gig, which is funny.
Speaker 1: I wish I could go back and actually know what
Speaker 1: I was doing that week, Like did I go home
Speaker 1: to Wisconsin? Did I go back to l A. Because
Speaker 1: I obviously had the whole had like a whole week off, yeah,
Speaker 1: or how it took ten day or whatever it took.
Speaker 1: I did, Like my contract was ten of thirteen, so right,
Speaker 1: I do ten episodes and then have a couple off, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you never know when that's coming and yeah, um
Speaker 1: yeah that's fun. But it is crazy some scenes that
Speaker 1: I'll watch, I'm like, I literally don't remember filming, not
Speaker 1: at all, Like when you said you didn't remember, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't remember that chess No, Like I mean no
Speaker 1: recollection that at all. Because that thing I'm using, that
Speaker 1: sweeper is a thing I had used a few times
Speaker 1: because it's one of those things they have like in
Speaker 1: schools that doesn't actually do anything. It's like a it's
Speaker 1: kind of like a little broom with a wheel. Remember
Speaker 1: using that? Yeah, So I always used always that restaurants.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but it kind of picks up bigger crumbs.
Speaker 1: But I definitely used that thing a lot, but I
Speaker 1: have no recollection of that chess game or that, you know.
Speaker 1: And then it's just funny because you watch and you're
Speaker 1: like it's out of body because we're like, that's me.
Speaker 1: I definitely me. That's literally you don't I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I had don't remember that. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: had a funny it was totally unrelated. But my my
Speaker 1: and he was an actor. She met her husband, who
Speaker 1: was a filmmaker when they were like nineteen. They met
Speaker 1: doing like a student film, and they when they were
Speaker 1: doing the auditions, his writing partner couldn't be there, so
Speaker 1: they taped the auditions. And this was like a long
Speaker 1: time ago, so it was like before everything was taped, um,
Speaker 1: so it was like special a VHS tape, um. And
Speaker 1: so they have a tape of them meeting. So they're
Speaker 1: like he's like hi, and she's like hi, I'm Emily,
Speaker 1: and they like shake hands, you know, and it's funny
Speaker 1: as they played at their wedding, which was you know,
Speaker 1: like fifteen years later, because they went all those other
Speaker 1: life things. But you're like, it's funny to have those
Speaker 1: moments that she was like, we have a visual record
Speaker 1: of the moment we met, but neither one of us
Speaker 1: really remember it in a particular way. So it's funny.
Speaker 1: It was our whole life is like captured in some way.
Speaker 1: So even though you don't remember if you went home
Speaker 1: for that week or whatever, it's like you kind of
Speaker 1: have like somewhat of a visual document of your life.
Speaker 1: And you're like, I remember wearing that shirt in that scene,
Speaker 1: so that was and then I'm you know, and I
Speaker 1: used to live there and what you know, it's funny
Speaker 1: how we have this some trip down memory lane when
Speaker 1: we watched these episodes, you know for sure. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's so it's been such a fun thing to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really cool because it was really a big chunk
Speaker 1: of all of our lives. Yeah huge, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it was years for for you and
Speaker 1: I also like the real kind of formative years too.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people in the show had
Speaker 1: had careers that started very young, right like as kids,
Speaker 1: you know, do working and UM. Part of what's so
Speaker 1: cool to me about watching UM everyone's career is sort
Speaker 1: of bloom when the Gossip al took off. Is the
Speaker 1: fact that it's already even though everyone was young. It
Speaker 1: was the culmination of a dream that had already been
Speaker 1: really rooted, you know. So it's like people have been
Speaker 1: working already for years for this goal and then just
Speaker 1: got to get a job that is fun, that features
Speaker 1: your talents, that continues, that is popular, that has an
Speaker 1: audience that kind of goes season after season after season.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a bill and then such a
Speaker 1: huge gift. You know. You have this dream and then
Speaker 1: you get to live it, you know, and you're like, whoa.
Speaker 1: So it's it's awesome, you know as an actor when
Speaker 1: you're like reading different scripts and getting into different roles,
Speaker 1: auditioning for certain roles that you really dig and connect to,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don't.
Speaker 1: We never really know what our career is going to be.
Speaker 1: We know what we want, we know what we like,
Speaker 1: but sometimes you never know. As artists, like the chips
Speaker 1: don't always fall the way you think. Sometimes it's way
Speaker 1: better than what you thought. Sometimes it's not exactly what
Speaker 1: you expected, and that's what the cool thing is like,
Speaker 1: you just don't ever know. I always tell young our
Speaker 1: actors when I talk to them about like, you know,
Speaker 1: when people are nervous about what's my career going to be?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you don't know where the opportunities lie.
Speaker 1: You can't you cannot forecast or predict. Like you're not
Speaker 1: a psychic medium, You're an actor. So like Dorota, Dorota
Speaker 1: had no lines, I mean, and then it turned into
Speaker 1: a part. You know, who knew that that was gonna
Speaker 1: be cool? I didn't know that. Yeah, And it's and
Speaker 1: it's even if like sometimes people be like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: the next you know, this big director's movie, that's you know,
Speaker 1: I want that to this, and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden the movie turns out and it wasn't quite that
Speaker 1: director's best work. So it's like it's never you've really
Speaker 1: just got to I always say give it. You're all
Speaker 1: put your heart into it and try to enjoy it
Speaker 1: as much as kin to me, I'm like, the day
Speaker 1: that I'm not enjoying it, I don't want to do
Speaker 1: it anymore, you know what I mean. Like, because people
Speaker 1: were like, well, what do you want to do next?
Speaker 1: What do you think about this? I'm like, the chips
Speaker 1: will fall where they may, they where they need to,
Speaker 1: like I'll just keep on working because you don't really
Speaker 1: like for this. I was like, I'm gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to try doing a podcast, and yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's just funny. And then people are like, oh, so
Speaker 1: now you're gonna podcaster and I'm like, no, not everything
Speaker 1: is always so black and white, like yes, I am
Speaker 1: a podcaster now, but like this was I wanted to
Speaker 1: just kind of do this for the fans and with you,
Speaker 1: and this has been so fun. But it's also like
Speaker 1: it's just what I was. I was just what I
Speaker 1: was saying before that it's what we do. Is you
Speaker 1: never really know because people are like, well, do you
Speaker 1: want to do another show? And I'm like, it's not
Speaker 1: like that. I love doing TV, but I don't yes,
Speaker 1: but is it going to be one that's twenty two
Speaker 1: episodes again? Or is it gonna be a mini series
Speaker 1: that's ten? Like you just don't know, and even if
Speaker 1: I want to, that doesn't mean it's going to lay
Speaker 1: out that way because it just doesn't, you know. Like
Speaker 1: someone one day I was like, you just don't you
Speaker 1: want like a gritty show on HBO. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure. If you asked every actor that, yeah, they'd
Speaker 1: be like, uh, yeah, I do. Well. It's like, my
Speaker 1: my boyfriend is a stand up comedian and sometimes people
Speaker 1: ask and they're like, what do you like to do
Speaker 1: a show at like Madison Square Garden. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would like that. Yeah, but you know what I mean, jokes.
Speaker 1: I literally just said one of his jokes. He does
Speaker 1: that joke on hisself. He would be so he'd be like,
Speaker 1: you said it all wrong, right, you made me laugh.
Speaker 1: But we actually we saw Dame Chappelle and Chris Rock
Speaker 1: last night and it was yeah, yes, it's so fun
Speaker 1: to go to. That's one of my favorite things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've always admired it because it's so Yeah, it's so
Speaker 1: brilliant because like they are really self activated, because like
Speaker 1: they're writing the material, they're performing it, they're entirely self
Speaker 1: self motivated, and and you know, there's nobody else up
Speaker 1: there but them, and it's like really thrilling. I think
Speaker 1: to watch you know that live music. I like live things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Theater yea, so fun. But
Speaker 1: it was um well sports live, sports also live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the closing quote for this particular episode. It was
Speaker 1: kind of a um, really specific one. Yeah, yes, should
Speaker 1: go Yeah, Okay, Like all good things, the Witching Hour
Speaker 1: must come to an end. True natures are revealed, tricks
Speaker 1: are turned into treats, and taking off costumes is as
Speaker 1: much fun as putting them on, except for the little
Speaker 1: girls who forget that Halloween is only one night. They
Speaker 1: wear their costumes for so long. Pretty soon they can't
Speaker 1: even remember who they were before they put them on.
Speaker 1: XO XO Gossip Girl. It's really loaded, it's all. It's
Speaker 1: also so funny when I go back and when I'm
Speaker 1: watching the shows because the gossip or quote is like
Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah, it's always like the last five minutes.
Speaker 1: It's very like spread out. But I like how they
Speaker 1: did it. I used to hate that when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, when you'd be watching the show and the
Speaker 1: and the like end credits or the you could feel
Speaker 1: it was wrapping up and you were like no. But
Speaker 1: now we have a benefit of binge watching, so we're like,
Speaker 1: next episode, you know, like I haven't not like I've
Speaker 1: binged almost everything in the last couple of years, but
Speaker 1: right now I'm up to date. Or each week with
Speaker 1: White Lotus and I I just want the next episode,
Speaker 1: and we all yes. The other time day we were
Speaker 1: like freaking out because I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: we should just you know, collect these because like this
Speaker 1: is you know, so we can enjoy ourselves and just
Speaker 1: sit and just really gorge on it. Because watching the
Speaker 1: one hour, I'm like, no, yeah, it's like fact. We
Speaker 1: were doing the promo video for this podcast in New
Speaker 1: York City, like the met stairs went down to the
Speaker 1: Humphrey Loft is the exterior of the Humphrey Loft, And
Speaker 1: I got a call and my agents like, listen, you
Speaker 1: need to make a tape like tonight. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: in New York and I like, get I'm taking a
Speaker 1: red eye. So we go back to my hotel room. Diego,
Speaker 1: our producer on this podcast, and Hannah help me run
Speaker 1: lines and read the tape because I auditioned for Daphne
Speaker 1: on White Lotus. Oh wow, that was my tape in
Speaker 1: my hotel room the day of them, which is so
Speaker 1: funny because watching it, I feel like Harper and I
Speaker 1: could almost play sisters. Yeah. I went out for Daphne,
Speaker 1: which I find interesting, but yeah, you never know, it's
Speaker 1: like so weird. It's so weird when you see that
Speaker 1: how it ends up getting cast and you're like you
Speaker 1: can see the different iterations of process they went through
Speaker 1: in terms of type. Yeah, I went back and watch
Speaker 1: the tape to see because I saw the scenes and like, bad,
Speaker 1: that's the scene and this is the scene and this
Speaker 1: is the scene. Um, just to kind of see. But
Speaker 1: I think they did. Meredith Tucker, who cast that, is
Speaker 1: such a great casting directors. She's really cool. Knock it
Speaker 1: out of the park. I mean, yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what I laugh. I know, ever,
Speaker 1: and they do such a good job of that suspense
Speaker 1: intention Well we'll have to see who die and and
Speaker 1: in Gossip Girl will have to see will anyone make
Speaker 1: up with each other after I know what is going
Speaker 1: to happen. But it was fun. I mean I feel
Speaker 1: like we got to the bottom of our personal issues
Speaker 1: with this episode. And you know, we'll see what big
Speaker 1: party they have in store for us next week when
Speaker 1: everyone next time everything can come to a head. But yes,
Speaker 1: super fun and I hope everyone is having a great
Speaker 1: holiday season. Um, it stays more if you're in New
Speaker 1: York staying dry, if your New York and if you
Speaker 1: do need a Christmas movie. Designing Christmas is still streaming
Speaker 1: on Discovery Plus. Yes, that's a good one. You can
Speaker 1: have a little hot chocolate and a little blanket and
Speaker 1: watch that's the most cozy little fighre. Um. We'll stay too,
Speaker 1: and we have a special one next week and right
Speaker 1: by guys. Bye x O x SO is produced by
Speaker 1: Propagate Content and Meet Jessica's Or. Our show is executive
Speaker 1: produced by Linkley. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our
Speaker 1: producers are Hannah Harris, Emily Carr, and Kristin Vermilion, and
Speaker 1: our intern is Sammy Cats. Original music by Moxie and
Speaker 1: Lum