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Speaker 2: I don't know if the Jacksonville Jaguars could beat the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, but today they do. On Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: in about fifteen minutes or so. Because Mahomes had some

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Speaker 2: interesting comments to make about his performance, we'll just leave

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Speaker 2: it at that about his performance in one certain area. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's in fifteen minutes. But we start in Jacksonville. This

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Speaker 2: doesn't happen too often, but Mancy, I'm telling you why

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Speaker 2: it's happening and the reason why it's happening. And this

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Speaker 2: is the whole reason behind Jacksonville trading up in the draft.

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Speaker 2: If I were to say to you, Monty, name me

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Speaker 2: a famous Dallas cowboy.

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Speaker 3: You know you just did this to me the other day.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, just any Dallas cowboy could be current, could

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Speaker 2: be former cooy could be could be current former Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say that. Perfect, all right? What about if

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Speaker 2: I were to say to you give me a give

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Speaker 2: me a New England Patriot, famous New England Patriot, current

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Speaker 2: or former Tom Brady Kansas City Chief Patrick Mahomes, All right, look,

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Speaker 2: this is this is really good Indianapolis Colts pastor former pastor,

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Speaker 2: is look and I'm going to put you off the hook. Iowa, Sam, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you give me a famous Minnesota Viking.

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Speaker 2: Anyone I got one? Yes, Randy Moss. Perfect, that's perfect.

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Speaker 2: There are no wrong answers here. What about if I

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Speaker 2: said Detroit? Think of that? Why am I spacey today?

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Speaker 4: I don't know?

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Speaker 2: From Minnesota? Adrian Peterson, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Slow today, He's still it was still thinking.

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Speaker 2: I was like staring off into space on that one

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagle. Anybody want Donovan McNabb All right, ron Jo

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Speaker 2: Wars Yeah, okay, okay, all right. Now now we're starting

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Speaker 2: to go into interesting territory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When I say Jacksonville Jaguar, who do we say? Exactly

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Speaker 2: my point? See, we could do this for thirty one Titans,

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Speaker 2: Steve McNair, Eddie George like, we've got it now. There

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Speaker 2: are Jaguar players that we know, but there's never been

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Speaker 2: a true star in Jacksonville. Did somebody else just just

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Speaker 2: tweet in Ceedee Lamb when we asked about the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: necessarily only doing it because Travis Hunter could do two

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Speaker 2: things for them, offense and defense. They're doing it because

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Speaker 2: this franchise is dying, dying for a star. And we

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Speaker 2: see how stars work in the NBA and for the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Even though it seems like nothing affects the NFL whatsoever,

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Speaker 2: and they have never really had one. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I think Travis Hunter is so important to them. And

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Speaker 2: what I love about the Jacksonville Jaguars and why they're

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Speaker 2: fizzling out in Jacksonville. So now you're bringing Liam Cohen

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Speaker 3: I'm with you because when the story of Travis Hunter

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Speaker 2: But I like it.

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Speaker 4: There was so much pushback.

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Speaker 2: It's very easy, especially the chairs that you and I

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Speaker 2: It's easy to sit there and say can't be done.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about is is what's the bar, Like, what's

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Speaker 2: an idea of what Deon's best season was? Receiving anyone?

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Speaker 2: It was thirty six catches for four hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: Now, we put Deon on a pedestal because he played

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Speaker 2: also point to Deon Sanders and say, well, what can

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Speaker 2: That was his best season. He didn't have a season

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Speaker 2: And I just love the fact that Jacksonville is saying,

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Speaker 2: dependent on Travis Hunter. And they're leaning full bore into that.

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Speaker 3: You're not wrong and going with that focus thing. Trevor

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Speaker 3: So it's I know they're they're making it out to

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Speaker 3: if right now they're just testing the water, like you said,

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Speaker 3: bringing the eyes, bringing the attention to Jacksonville, because everybody

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Speaker 2: Yes, everyone, this is the most.

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Speaker 3: Intriguing storyline right now for me. Shador Sanders probably coming

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Speaker 3: But everyone wants to see how Travis Hunter handles doing

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Speaker 3: also as his quarterback of I want you to focus

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, I think Liam Cohen will have

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Speaker 2: get Trevor Lawrence's need. But whatever Liam Cohen ends up

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Speaker 4: Who?

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Speaker 5: I do think it's possible.

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Speaker 7: He is committed man like he is committed to driving,

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Speaker 7: because he was the second overall pick in East Travis Hunter,

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Speaker 7: But it's truly guys, iron sharpening iron. That's what it

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Speaker 2: That was Liam Cohen with rich Eisen earlier this week. So, Mancy,

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Speaker 2: it's not even the question of can he play both ways?

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Speaker 2: Like I think that's that's amazing. I think that that's

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Speaker 2: they can't, we can't, And here Jacksonville is completely leaning

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Speaker 2: into it. And time will tell we'll find out in

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Speaker 2: week seventeen Week eighteen on how Travis Hunters has progressed.

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Speaker 2: But in mentioning Dion Sanders, no better guy to be

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Speaker 2: it's amazing what Jacksonville is doing and the reason why

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Speaker 2: they are doing so may have dollar signs at the

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Speaker 2: end of it, but this team needs a superstar and

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Speaker 2: they're leaning.

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Speaker 3: Into it, and I love it, even if it is

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Speaker 3: for dollar signs. This is the right move. Like you said,

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Speaker 3: they traded up for him. How crappy would have been

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Speaker 3: if you traded up for him and then you're like, no,

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Speaker 3: he's just going to focus on one side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: They'd be like there was a point, Yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: a boy. This that's not what we want to see

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Speaker 3: in Travis Hunter. And with so many no's and so

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Speaker 3: many like you just said, you can't do this, it's

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Speaker 3: refreshing to see Jacksonville take this other approach.

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Speaker 6: I would like to be rated higher, but I got

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Speaker 4: Guys, Yeah, I was listening to you a little bit earlier, Dan,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's funny because I don't really you guys

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Speaker 4: How do they come up with a rating?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a on a like a grading

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that all of the NFL players

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Speaker 4: golf team in high school. I did I tell you that?

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes for three years, so I don't you know.

434
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 4: I don't play as much as that. He's still not

435
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 4: really good anymore, but even competitive anymore. But yeah, you

436
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 4: are a sportsman, there's no question about it.

437
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 2: We had We had a lot of fun, and I

438
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: think the Jacksonville Jaguars are having fun. And I just

439
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: talked about Travis Hunter. Let's talk about it.

440
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 4: I love I love how.

441
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: They're leaning into it and Liam Cohen telling Rich eisen

442
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: Hey offensive defense rookie of the year all on the table.

443
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 2: I feel that the franchise needs a superstar. I mean,

444
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: is is he leading the charge of a turnaround in

445
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,479
Speaker 2: Jacksonville under their new head coach right now, I mean,

446
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: is it all about Travis Hunter and.

447
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 4: Jacks Well, look, there's a reason why they made the trade,

448
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 4: you know, to make sure they got him. But my

449
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 4: feeling is, I know, I I did one of my

450
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 4: side gigs, I worked for Sports Grid, and I did

451
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Speaker 4: a video saying and I'll just kind of give you

452
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Speaker 4: a little we have a little bit more time so

453
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Speaker 4: to explain it. It's highly unlikely that'll be a two

454
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Speaker 4: way player for years to come. This year, they're clearly

455
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 4: committed to it. And let me give you a why

456
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 4: I don't see it happening. Physically, the demands of the

457
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 4: National Football League playing corner and receiver are enormous. A.

458
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: You can get hit as a receiver and B you

459
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 4: got to tackle as a corner. It's a lot. I know,

460
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 4: he's really smart by the way, Hunter tested very well,

461
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 4: highly intelligent guy, so he'll be able to pick up

462
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: what they're asking. Then the other thing is from a

463
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 4: game planning standpoint, you can't have a part time corner

464
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Speaker 4: like they drafted them in the first round. But you

465
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Speaker 4: have to know as a coach, as a defensive coordinator. Okay,

466
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 4: it's Grant Yudinski is excuse me, it's Antheic Campinelli is

467
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 4: a defense coordinator. Am I going to have him this week?

468
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Speaker 4: How much are going to have him? Am I going

469
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: to have him for forty plays? Twenty plays? How do

470
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Speaker 4: you coach like that? I'm telling it's not sustainable. It's

471
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Speaker 4: not going to happen long term.

472
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Speaker 2: No way.

473
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Speaker 3: That's what we're waiting, you know, by the edge of

474
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Speaker 3: our seats to see.

475
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Speaker 2: How that goes.

476
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Speaker 4: I can't wait to see it, though, I I you know,

477
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 4: I can't wait.

478
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Speaker 3: I can't either absolutely be going into back to the

479
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: to the preseason game last night. You know Ashton Genty

480
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: obviously everybody's waiting to see him in Las Vegas, but

481
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 3: there was the other guy playing against him that played

482
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Speaker 3: with him in Boisjilani. Ye, what did you think of

483
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Speaker 3: I know it's only preseason, but what did you think

484
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Speaker 3: of that? Did you have opinions before going into the preseas.

485
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Speaker 4: I know about him? Yeah, So basically what it is

486
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: is they're looking for a number three back. Kenny McIntosh

487
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 4: who is going to be their number three back. He's

488
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Speaker 4: out for the season with the twenty a cel and

489
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 4: Jilani was actually signed last year and was on their

490
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Speaker 4: practice squad and he's built like he's not to tell

491
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Speaker 4: he's on her five to eleven, but he's built really,

492
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Speaker 4: really solidly, and he got to run. You know, they

493
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Speaker 4: weren't going to play the starters last night in Seattle,

494
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: and he got a run and he looked pretty good.

495
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: Really nice story. And well, we'll see how you know,

496
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 4: they know the player because this is his second year.

497
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Speaker 4: We'll see how it works out. But Seattle's a team

498
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: that and when you look at him, there's some talent

499
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 4: on this roster. It's can they put it together? And

500
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Speaker 4: I really like Clint Kobeak as an offensive coordinator. I

501
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: thought he did a good job under trying circumstances with

502
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 4: the Saints last season, and they're completely revered. The offense

503
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 4: that he runs is completely different from Ryan Grubbs offense,

504
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 4: which was heavy eleven personnel and spread. This is completely different.

505
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 4: This is an old school West Coast offense. It's going

506
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: to look completely different. Disease.

507
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Speaker 2: They're gonna be a top five defense this year. Their

508
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: talent on defense, they really are. Yes, I believe that.

509
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Speaker 2: That's my heart saying it.

510
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Speaker 4: Maybe I'll tell you what they're the Giants who I'm

511
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 4: going to see this coming week. They are loaded. If

512
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 4: you're a Giants fan listened to us across the country here,

513
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: you're gonna love their front seven. The secondary is my

514
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: problem with the Giants, but I look forward to see

515
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Speaker 4: him that they have a joint practice with the Jets.

516
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Speaker 4: I think we'll two.

517
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Speaker 2: I want to stay on this coast and by the coast,

518
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: I mean the West coast with the Rams. Sure, Matthew

519
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: Stafford obviously hasn't been taking part, but there seems to

520
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: be good news later on in the week. Where are

521
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: the Rams with Stafford? I mean, is this the Swan song?

522
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: Considering they have two first rounders next year? What are

523
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Speaker 2: we looking at for the veteran?

524
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Speaker 4: You be all right? So with an epidura, I you know,

525
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: I've covered injuries for twenty seven years, and with an

526
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: epidural you have to let you have to let it

527
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Speaker 4: sit when you have it.

528
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Speaker 2: On your back.

529
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Speaker 4: It takes time. You're not gonna be ready in a week.

530
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Speaker 4: So they knew this all along. He'd be ready for

531
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: the season. That was never a concern of theirs. But

532
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 4: he's had guys, he's had back problems before in his career,

533
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 4: but he always see more often than not, he seems

534
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: to play. Now when you look at his contract, right,

535
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: he's only signed for twenty six Now, the cash that's

536
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 4: guaranteed his contract, sixteen million of his forty million in

537
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 4: cash is guaranteed. So that's not a big number they

538
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 4: could get out of if they want to and eat

539
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: sixteen million or trade him. But you're right, Dan, that's

540
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 4: something to look at now as we get through the fall.

541
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Speaker 4: In November, we'll talk about I'll give him my list

542
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 4: of the early quarterbacks that I'm hearing who could go

543
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: in the first round, and that'll give us a better

544
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: idea because I'll tell you what the Rams, when you

545
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: look at the way they draft, they do a phenomenal

546
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: job of drafting and developing. I gotta tell you that

547
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 4: the way that Lesnie drafts there, he's terrific. He's one

548
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 4: of the he's probably one of the top three drafting

549
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: gms in the National Football League.

550
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Speaker 3: Does Michael Parsons really have a back injury.

551
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 4: No, I don't believe it. This is an old fashioned

552
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 4: hold in. I'm telling you folks, they're going to get

553
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 4: a deal done, whether it's tonight, tomorrow, a week before

554
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 4: season started. I just don't see any way that he

555
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: plays on twenty six million. I just don't know. There's

556
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: just this bizarreness. Mont See, this is a really interesting story.

557
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 4: It's actually twenty four million, not twenty six It's twenty

558
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 4: four million points zero zero seven is the exact number.

559
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Speaker 4: But the fact that Jerry tried to do a backdoor

560
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: deal with Michael on his own and then Mike's like,

561
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: wait a minute, wait a minute, we're not we're talking

562
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 4: money here, but we're not doing deal. And Jerry's like,

563
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 4: wait a minute, we have a we in agreement. I mean,

564
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: are you serious. That's exactly what happened when I first

565
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: heard about this in April, I didn't Jerry actually gave

566
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 4: the details out. I mean he gave more and sort

567
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 4: of Micah, by the way, in the statement, this is

568
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: even for Jerry, this is this is this is even

569
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: in the next level bazaarre. But you know what, this

570
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 4: is what he does, this is what this is the

571
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 4: next level.

572
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: Though, Dan I felt this is what I felt happened,

573
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: is that all this stuff has always been going on,

574
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: and just like we felt that there was a line

575
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: drawn in the w n B A with throwing things

576
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: on the court. I felt like this o's spent a lot. Yeah,

577
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: don't worry. That's the first hour of the show. Dan

578
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: after Dark, Moncey after Dark, she's the scandalous.

579
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 4: Well, I listen, I gotta tell you real quick. Remember

580
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 4: when it happened at the Bill's Bill?

581
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so someone who doesn't want to talk about it.

582
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: Well, wait, I gotta tell you something. This is what

583
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: but this is what happened. So I happened to have

584
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: it might have been the red Zone. I'm like, wait,

585
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: what what was that that I just saw? So I

586
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: stopped it and I replayed him like I lost it.

587
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 4: My wife goes, why you you know, when you laugh

588
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: so hard you cry. Yeah. I couldn't stop laughing, Like,

589
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: this didn't happen, This did not happen. What is going on?

590
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: I don't you know? This is a family show.

591
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, don'torry, it's still on our DVR, it's.

592
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 4: Still got yeah, yeah, yeah, I cannot, but I still can.

593
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: How does that happen? Anyway?

594
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: My point is I felt that a lot of the

595
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: insiders were starting to tell Jerry Jones stories that we

596
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: hadn't heard before. And I don't know I don't know why,

597
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: Like Micah Parsons was the tipping point. But we'd started

598
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: to hear things of Dexter, of DeMarcus Lawrence excuse me

599
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: to talk about the Giants DeMarcus Lawrence uh and his

600
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: time when he was a cowboy. We had heard des

601
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: Bryant negotiations. It felt like it felt like everything was

602
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: then starting to like kind of pour out about how

603
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones does this stuff. And I don't know if

604
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: it's the Micah Parsons offensive. I don't know if we

605
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: should call it the Micah Parsons project. There was a

606
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: lot of this's this next level though that that, and

607
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, I love it. Like in the spring, Jerry

608
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: praised Parsons for his knowledge of contracts. He said, I've

609
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: never seen a player like but I didn't. I actually

610
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: asked someone who would know. I'm like, can you explain

611
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: to me what he's What he.

612
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: Meant that.

613
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: I was a great vacuumer, so then she wouldn't have

614
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: to vacuum when I was a kid. That's what that is.

615
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: That is like, oh, yeah, no, all vacuum because I'm

616
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: the best at it.

617
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Speaker 4: Well, Dan, remember when I think it's when we hosted

618
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: I think and this is when Jerry, at the start

619
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Speaker 4: of training camp made a statement about Parsons and it

620
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: was really off the wall, and I and my friend

621
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: with the Cowboys said, you're not going to believe this.

622
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: You have to listen to this. I'm like, okay, well,

623
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: because when I hear that, I'm like, all right, what

624
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: am I getting into? And then I heard I'm like,

625
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: he is a different guy man, And once and for all,

626
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: he really pays more than he really should.

627
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, it's great to uh to have

628
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: you on. You know, we should pay you more than

629
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: we should.

630
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, first, we need to do two segments.

631
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, but we got sidetracked with some foreign

632
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: objects flying in your pocket. You'll be with Moncey and

633
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: Kerry coming up on Sunday and uh five o'clock Eastern time.

634
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: The show is Adam Music checks in at about six

635
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: twenty Eastern time, right and yes, hey, hey, you know what, I.

636
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 4: Know what happens during the football season and I'm out

637
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: sid six thirty two on the nod that's Mansy. She

638
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: runs a tight yep does a good job.

639
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: Appreciated Adam will Texic soon hit him up at kapitolin NFL.

640
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: Find Mancy at Moncey Bilano, so you can find me

641
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: at Dan Byer on Fox. Always fun talking with Adam Kapell.

642
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: I definitely keep him longer than I should.

643
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: Yes, but he knows that that when the break is

644
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: he does Monty is. Yeah, She's right on on board

645
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: with that.

646
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: It's been a busy day for the Chicago Bears on

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Speaker 2: and off the field, Isaac Low and kron As those details.

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Speaker 2: She's Moncey, I'm Dan and for Doug, that's next on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. She's Moncey Blo, So

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer there again. You know, Kaplan comes on saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about that. You know, I

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Speaker 2: was watching the Bills game and boy and I paused

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Speaker 2: it and I brought my wife in and.

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Speaker 3: We could stop lay and tears rolling down.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about this though nobody wants

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Speaker 2: to talk about it, but everybody wants to talk about

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Speaker 2: it exactly. She's Moncey Blago. Hit her up at Moncey Blaos.

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Speaker 2: Find me dan Byer at dan Byer on Fox. Also,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I'm Blue Sky at dan Byer b

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Speaker 2: e y e R. Ryan Berschinger is here Iowa. Sam

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Speaker 2: is hanging out as well. Isaac Longcrowns at the news

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Speaker 2: desk with the press. The press.

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Speaker 9: Busy day for the Chicago Bears, both on and off

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Speaker 9: the field. First of all, they announced that quarterback Caleb

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Speaker 9: Williams will not play in the preseason opener for them

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Speaker 9: on Sunday against the Dolphins. It'll be Tyson Bagent getting

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Speaker 9: the start. But then off the field, team president Kevin

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Speaker 9: Warren telling reporters that the Bears remain squarely focused on

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Speaker 9: the location, their proposed new stadium, being in Arlington Heights,

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Speaker 9: a village twenty miles northwest of Chicago. They hope to

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Speaker 9: break ground in December, needs to pass a vote in October.

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Speaker 9: But among other things, I think this would almost steal

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Speaker 9: the indictment of New Soldier Field being a bust. You've

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Speaker 9: heard of draft picks being a bust. I've heard people

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Speaker 9: say terrible things about Soldier Field ever since the New

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Speaker 9: Soldier Field opened with the spaceship designed. Despite it being

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Speaker 9: an incredible location.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's on Lake Shore Drive, on the

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Speaker 2: shores of Lake Michigan in downtown Chicago. It is amazing.

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Speaker 2: I was fortunate I've not been to the New Soldier Field.

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Speaker 2: I went to the old Soldier Field in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: five to actually the second game ever played by the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. It was a preseason game Bears Panthers, and

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Speaker 2: it was the second game because the Panthers opened up

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Speaker 2: with the Jaguars in the Hall of Fame game because

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Speaker 2: they were new teams. But so it was really unique

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Speaker 2: to see the Panthers. The point being is the old

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Speaker 2: Soldier Field was a dump. You needed a new stadium,

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Speaker 2: you just didn't need to put a toilet shaped rocket

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Speaker 2: ship replacing it. And because that's what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: And I know there's been a lot going on in politics,

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Speaker 2: but Isaac's right about the location, like it's a shame

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Speaker 2: that it would be leaving downtown and the other thing

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Speaker 2: is this, if anything will tell you in recent history

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, with these markets that are colder weather markets,

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Speaker 2: it's easy to say, hey, we'll get we'll get a

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Speaker 2: dome stadium, we'll bring super Bowls and Final Fours and

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Speaker 2: all this and they'll be shopping and this whole deal.

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Speaker 2: That's all fine, and but how many super Bowls has

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis gotten since they've built their new stadium one? How

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Speaker 2: many has Indianapolis gotten since they've built There's one? Jerry

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Speaker 2: Jones has what we thought was a stand of the

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Speaker 2: art facility. It was a mess with some of the

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Speaker 2: seats there. They've had one super Bowl, so when we

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Speaker 2: say super bowls, that's not accurate. It's a super Bowl

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Speaker 2: and there's no guarantee that Final Fours will be there.

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Speaker 2: So I think when they say this stuff, it sounds

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Speaker 2: good on paper, but in reality, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: great it is to build an indoor facility away from

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Speaker 2: downtown and then you sell everybody on shops and apartments

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Speaker 2: and condos and the whole deal. Because I think, like

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Speaker 2: Isaac talks about the other stadium being outdated, I think

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Speaker 2: some of that stuff can be outdated. I'd rather us

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Speaker 2: maybe keep it on a smaller scale, have an outdoor

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Speaker 2: facility and just go from there.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree. I've never been to this stadium, but

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Speaker 3: location matters, absolutely matters. I hate going to Sofi.

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Speaker 2: I hate it.

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Speaker 4: I go, I still go.

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Speaker 3: I just went to Shkira, like I just I go.

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Speaker 3: But I'm so mad every single time I know I

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Speaker 3: have to go to Sofi because the location is awful,

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Speaker 3: and it's an awesome stadium. It's amazing, and there's already

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Speaker 3: you know, been events happening there, the super Bowl and

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Speaker 3: all I Location matters, so I hope it's better than

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Speaker 3: the situation when they put Sofi and even into it.

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Speaker 3: Don't for the Clippers out in Englewood. Location matters. I

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Speaker 3: hate driving out there. Ugh, that's all I think about.

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Speaker 2: How you get seventy thousand. It's never easy.

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Speaker 3: It's never easy.

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Speaker 9: We have an update on a sizeable topic of conversation

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Speaker 9: from this show.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 9: Not only do Fox Sports radios Dan Byer and Monsey

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Speaker 9: Bolano's disapprove of the recent trend of adult toys being

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Speaker 9: thrown at WNBA games, but they now have an unlikely

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Speaker 9: ally the manufacturers of the toys themselves, The company, Naughty

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Speaker 9: Fox told TMZ.

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Speaker 2: N I, quote, that's right, fox yep, that was our one.

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Speaker 5: Get your mind out of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Naughty Fox stay tuned.

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Speaker 9: We're seeing a whole new side of Dan Byer here

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Speaker 9: on today's show.

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Speaker 5: I told TFC, quote, I.

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Speaker 2: Never have, By the way, never have never doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: I kept I have never never had a blunt.

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Speaker 3: I've just passed it to the next person period.

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Speaker 2: I've never been able to pass it to the nice person.

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Speaker 5: There goes my stomach muscles again. They Naughty Fox.

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Speaker 9: Fox told Naughty Fox, by the way, not a subsidiary

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Speaker 9: of Fox Sports Radio. Quote, We're all for fun and freedom,

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Speaker 9: but throwing these adult toys at w NBA players definitely

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Speaker 9: crosses a line. Please keep the games sporty and the

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Speaker 9: toys in the bedroom unquote.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the owner of.

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Speaker 5: Twisted Fantasies told TMZ quote what happened at those games

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Speaker 5: was completely inappropriate, putting players and fans at risk, incredibly

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Speaker 5: disrespectful to these amazing athletes, and frankly not something kids

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Speaker 5: should be seeing during a family sports event.

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Speaker 2: Unquote very much.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they hurt us, and then they released that statement.

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Speaker 2: Yes again, they should put them in handcuffs, not the

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Speaker 2: ones with pink lace around them, just real ones. Yes,

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Speaker 2: put them in the slammer for a whole week, maybe longer, yes,

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Speaker 2: five days is what Monty said.

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Speaker 5: Yeah or else.

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Speaker 3: No one's going to learn and no one's going to stop.

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Speaker 5: We are going to keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: And at this point, like you said, we all said it,

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Speaker 3: it's disrespectful, it's not funny anymore. Move on.

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Speaker 5: I just I just never anticipated that these companies would

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Speaker 5: be springing for them.

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Speaker 2: Was the name of the one company.

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Speaker 5: To Naughty Fox and Twisted Fantasy, Lost in Twisted Fantasies.

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Speaker 2: Like they've got a PR person, you know, like, like

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Speaker 2: what other PR do they send out?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Like it's got to be a part time position.

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Speaker 5: They probably to create their PR department just for.

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Speaker 2: This chat GPT. Just how do I put out a

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Speaker 2: public statement on and there it is?

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Speaker 9: It's good, you know, you know, guys, I honestly have

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Speaker 9: a couple of other things, but that's this is a

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Speaker 9: drop the mic subject.

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Speaker 5: So that's it for this edition of the press. They

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Speaker 5: get out there and press that.

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Speaker 4: Was the press.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry, Isaac Lara Crown is going nowhere. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: be sticking around as well. Monty Blanio said myself, as

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Speaker 2: we are in for Cavino and Rich here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio after the Doug Gottlieb Show. It has been

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Speaker 2: a fun two hours. We've talked a lot of NFL

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Speaker 2: and we've talked about other things as well, Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 2: also hitting the stretch run. We're gonna get to that

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Speaker 2: in a little bit. And there's something that that you're

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Speaker 2: pretty excited about.

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Speaker 3: Everyone should everyone should be okay, you don't get we

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Speaker 3: don't talk about matchups like this anymore.

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Speaker 7: No, And.

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Speaker 2: There's something else in Major League Baseball that is happening

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Speaker 2: that we aren't talking about very much really at all.

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Speaker 2: On how it's transpired. We'll talk about that coming up.

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Speaker 2: But she is Manzi Blanos. I'm Dan Bayer in for

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb today. Find Monty X at Monti Blagos. You

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Speaker 2: can find me at Dan Bayer on Fox. We're sticking around.

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Speaker 2: We hope you will as we hope you will still

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Speaker 2: on Fox