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Speaker 1: Marriage in the pute.

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Speaker 2: I mean I can't wait till Larry mar Girl.

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Speaker 3: You read you that thing. Now you see you set up.

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Speaker 2: Get on one knee right now, ready to go home.

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Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, prison,

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Speaker 4: one slice, got the brother all my life. I be

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Speaker 4: grinding all my life, all my life, and grinning all

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Speaker 4: my life. Sacrifice, hustle, bat Bryson, one slice, God, the

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Speaker 4: Brothers all my life. I've been grinding all my life.

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club sha Shay. I

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Speaker 3: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of

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Speaker 3: Club Shashay, stopping by for conversation on the drink today

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Speaker 3: is an under novel and influential talent. One of the

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Speaker 3: most popular artists from the Windy City. He's this generation's

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Speaker 3: premier voice for the voiceless, a top tier MC, a

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Speaker 3: platinum selling rapper, a songwriter with vivid storytelling ability, a

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Speaker 3: respected community leader and philanthropist, A pioneer for the mental

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Speaker 3: help in the hip hop. He's admired as one of

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Speaker 3: the most beloved family members in rap in Loving father

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Speaker 3: a k A little Herb here you g Herb. I

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Speaker 3: appreciate you, man, Man, you got a birthday coming up.

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Speaker 3: I got an album coming up. Man, Let's let's let's

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Speaker 3: toast up. It's old shade. See what you think about

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Speaker 3: this here.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait to get some of this.

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Speaker 1: Would your honest opinion now? Because I give you opinion smooth.

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Speaker 2: I need a bottle, say no more. I need a bottle,

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Speaker 2: say no more?

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Speaker 1: This album Little Herd? Who's Little Herd?

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Speaker 2: Little Herb is a kid from the East Side of Chicago,

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Speaker 2: one of the most poverty struck in dangerous neighborhoods in Chicago,

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Speaker 2: who just had a dream man, a dream of you know,

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Speaker 2: rapping and making it out, but was knee deep in

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Speaker 2: the midst of the fire, like growing up over there

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Speaker 2: and starting to do music at fifteen, sixteen years old,

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Speaker 2: and they picking up and making a name for myself

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Speaker 2: and still being in the streets and being shot at

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Speaker 2: sixteen and seeing a lot of my homies passed away.

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Speaker 2: Like Little Herd was just a kid with a dream man,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Fast forward me being g

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Speaker 2: Herbo is like I had to kind of like tap

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Speaker 2: back into my old self and find the hunger for real.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I really like I'm on a little

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Speaker 2: herd wave right now.

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Speaker 3: What's some of your fondest memories, your childhood memories. What's

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Speaker 3: some of your fondest memories of you growing up on

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Speaker 3: the East Side of Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Going to play basketball at Echosas Park, playing basketball at

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Speaker 2: south Shore Park, playing basketball at Woodhall Park. Where it's

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Speaker 2: like I'm from. I grew up all over the East Side,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, it's not a lot

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Speaker 2: of people that could really say they had memories more

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Speaker 2: so in other areas other than they blocked a little

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Speaker 1: That's all you could see. You couldn't see outside of

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Speaker 2: For sure, But the East Side is pretty big, and

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Speaker 2: I got memories like all over because I got my aunts,

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Speaker 2: like lived in different parts of the neighborhood. I actually

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Speaker 2: went to school and a neighborhood that wasn't where I

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Speaker 2: I had friends over there, and I had friends in

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Speaker 2: just being able to walk twelve blocks to go play basketball.

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Speaker 2: You feel I'm saying, like, I definitely look back and think,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of those people who I shared those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, outside of rap, did you dream of anything else

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Speaker 1: Or that was?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: My brother used to tell us, tells me all the time,

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Speaker 3: he say, a dream is a gift that we give

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Speaker 2: I never heard that.

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Speaker 3: So outside of rap, you said, you know, you started

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Speaker 2: I wanted to play basketball if you want to do Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do it because it was the cool

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Speaker 1: Real, you know what I'm saying, So you could really hoop?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm nice, I'm for sure, show for sure, But

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Speaker 2: my dreams just got cut short so early. Right fifteen sixteen,

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Speaker 2: out freshman Southmore in high school, I got shot, got

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's like I just leaned towards rap.

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Speaker 2: But I never wanted to be anything other than the

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Speaker 1: Did you play any other sports? You tried football?

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Speaker 2: You tried? I ain't. I never tried football, man, I

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Speaker 2: just like I just fell in love with basketball and

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Speaker 2: just we played basketball like I wasn't athletic at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 1: Like, so who would you compare your basketball game to? You?

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Speaker 1: You Lebron, you, Steph Curry, you KD George.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna laugh at this for real? For you know

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Speaker 2: who they used to compare me to ool Van next

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Speaker 2: Nick And.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that Nick Quick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah you think manager used to say I was. I

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Speaker 2: I used to be here like you lefty, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: So cause Nikki Quick, I was I wasting different when

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Speaker 3: he got there. He was he was nice with he could,

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Speaker 2: I was nice and my primest prime. I was like, so, obviously,

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Speaker 2: if you're from Chicago, you know d Road. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 3: People say, man, d Rose is probably bigger in Chicago

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Speaker 3: than Jorge.

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Speaker 2: I've said that before.

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Speaker 3: You said that my mouth. I said that was your

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Speaker 3: I said that, man, you need to get I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You must have been drinking when you drinking when you

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Speaker 2: Let me give you my opinion on why.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you give me your opinion.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like join us the biggest of the biggest.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that. But it's like coming from Chicago, know

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Speaker 2: he homegrown is like we've seen it. Like I used

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: From Beasley to Semiana, you feel me like That's why

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Speaker 2: I felt like it just made it like any kid

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Speaker 2: hope in Chicago you feel, I'm saying, then you gotta

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Speaker 2: high likes I seen Derrick Rose in real timing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right about that. So that's what I meant by

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Speaker 2: let me clarify young people like, but holdo, bro, how

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Speaker 1: But I get what you're saying because you talk about.

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Speaker 2: Have got from Chicago poverty, even grew up poor bro

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Speaker 2: and became one of the biggest to ever play the game.

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Speaker 2: You feel, in my opinion, what.

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Speaker 3: If d Road's trajectory if he doesn't get hurt, if

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Speaker 3: he doesn't hurt that meme And we saw him become

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Speaker 3: the youngest MVP in NBA history, so his trajectory was like,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we definitely got robbed of Derrick Rose. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like, that's why we're so passionate

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. He hurt hisself, you know,

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Speaker 2: because he was just so good. They would have, especially

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Speaker 2: for real, real, like every you can't tell nobody in

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Speaker 3: What is it about hoopers and athletes want to be rappers?

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Speaker 3: Rappers want to be hoopers and football player?

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Speaker 2: What? What?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: What? What is the combination? What is the common thread?

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Speaker 3: What is the fabric that tied these together?

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Speaker 2: I think it's just like the cool effect, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like the lifestyle that rappers that artists

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Speaker 2: And athletes really like they life is disciplined, structure, yes,

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Speaker 2: gym workouts, like you know, the the athlete that go

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Speaker 2: like that's the whole thing that tied to each other.

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Speaker 2: And you got to think about like just the motivation

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I think that's really like the bridge in

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Speaker 2: So it's like we look up to them too because

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Speaker 2: they are what we wanted to be, but it ain't

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Speaker 2: work out. Like rap was our playing beat, you feel

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Speaker 3: If I gave you a choice, say you know what,

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Speaker 3: you could have went to the NBA or you be

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Speaker 3: the rapper. Would you trade your career, your rap career

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Speaker 2: No? No, what the hell? I wouldn't because I feel

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Speaker 2: like early on I thought that's what I was like

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Speaker 2: in my purpose now, Like with all the people that

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Speaker 2: are influenced and what my music is, it's not really

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Speaker 2: I get from this is when people tell me, like

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Speaker 2: you changed my life, bro, Wow, you got me through

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Speaker 2: this situation, like my brother passed, my grandmother, my dad passed,

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Speaker 1: All right, hoop rappers, you j Cole, Savage, Drake, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did Drake's times in a row.

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Speaker 3: Hold on Drake, like I've seen b I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: Drake to shoot the net off. The motherfucker for show

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Speaker 2: and you beat you, you beat Savage play the five

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we beat them for show like four five times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, and we'll do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we beat the Yeah, it's like four five times

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Speaker 1: For whose idea was to get the car?

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Speaker 1: Y'all? Okay, y'all in there, y'all talking, y'all, you're doing

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Speaker 2: Now? All right, go give me bring me another that,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? Like that the shoot.

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know about y'all really, but I've seen

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Speaker 2: I figured now we lost the Breezy team for sure.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of talk, and I know you

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Speaker 3: I did Michael Jackson. A lot of people say Chris

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Speaker 3: gonna be able to approach Mike's. That's first of all,

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Speaker 3: they don't sell vinyls. They don't sell record like that anymore.

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Speaker 3: So that's nulling boy, but do you believe that Chris

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's nobody closer to Michael Jackson than

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two hours, two and a half hours of that

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Speaker 2: It's insane for fifty nights in a row, and then

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Speaker 1: How is it working with Breezy? So what's he like

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: You like you said he's an phenomenal performer, saying not,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know if he got bones

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Speaker 1: The way he can get his body and do all

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Speaker 2: You know, Like some people just like have that it factor,

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Speaker 2: you do, you know what I'm saying. That in that field,

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Speaker 2: And when I seen that, Like it's only certain people

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Speaker 2: I just like amazing at making music, you know what

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Speaker 2: Though when I watch people do certain things, I pick

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Speaker 2: It's like he just keep on like he just edit.

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Speaker 2: He's just spind shitting. It sounds like he mumbling at first,

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Speaker 2: I've never seen nobody do a Juice World do though.

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Speaker 2: Juice would rap a full song and one tape like

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Speaker 1: So what Look.

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Speaker 3: I've had a lot of people on the show and

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Speaker 3: it's like, you know, Hole, you play hole a beat,

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Speaker 1: Face said, like while he's listening to the beat, he's writing, Wayne,

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Speaker 2: He just go drop the track. What's your style? I'm

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Speaker 2: what Wayne? You do? Like I'm quiet, like south Side

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Speaker 2: south Side that's my brother. Man. He's been producing me

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Speaker 2: him like like you know how you be focused on

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Speaker 2: I'm saying the lyrics in my head though, like I'm

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Speaker 2: Then I go in and whatever I'm memorized, I say,

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Speaker 2: I heard him say, like because they're being there making

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Speaker 2: like he already Wow. He like he noticed that I

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Speaker 2: Like I just be in that vibing in my head

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Speaker 3: So you're not really paying attention to what the beat

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Speaker 2: That exactly exactly. Like so as they making the beat

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Speaker 2: So it's like, once I hear a sound or a loop,

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Speaker 2: the first four seconds of it, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: So it's like I'd be in my head just thinking

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Speaker 2: Maybe after like fifteen minutes or something, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Ready to go rap damn.

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Speaker 3: So you don't get you don't get distracted, because if

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Speaker 3: I'm like thinking about something, I'm you know, man, be quiet, come.

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Speaker 1: On man, damn no, hell no, you need that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I love that type of energy, and

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Speaker 2: I think I've grown into that artist where it's like

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Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask, because some like, no, bro,

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Speaker 3: I want it quiet. Some guys, look, I want I

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Speaker 3: want to file up and I won't. I want chaos.

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Speaker 3: I want people just running around doing whatever y'all do

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Speaker 3: a because I don't impact me.

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Speaker 1: Let's get at it and then.

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Speaker 2: Inspired my music though, So it's like a conversation that

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Speaker 2: we might be having in this room. I might think

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Speaker 2: I actually like when it's a lot of people and

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Speaker 1: Don't bother me at all. Can you turn your mind off?

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Speaker 3: Because you know, I've heard em says that, Like when

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Speaker 3: he was in it, He's like, every time he was

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Speaker 1: Ryan hick tick lick nick.

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Speaker 3: Do you turn your mind off? Are you constantly trying

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Speaker 1: No? I don't.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I actually changed my whole style of

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Speaker 2: I've watched you rap from your very first times in

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Speaker 2: thinking too hard about stuff like I don't even think

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Speaker 2: about metaphor stuff that rhyme. I don't think about stories

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Speaker 2: I need to tell, he said, just going there and

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Speaker 2: like you could have win way crazy damn. And I

436
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 2: was in my head thinking like I didn't really like

437
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 2: the verse for real, right, Okay, you's already there. I

438
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,239
Speaker 2: was already thinking like I didn't really like it. I

439
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 2: felt like I was frustrated thinking about too much shit

440
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,280
Speaker 2: because at that moment, it's like twenty one, so big

441
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,440
Speaker 2: as an artist. I want to put my hardest shit

442
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 2: on this, you knowe what I'm saying. He's driving to

443
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,399
Speaker 2: the studio to jump on it, so I'm thinking like

444
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 2: I gotta get him my fire as verse. And I

445
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,320
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been thinking like that. I should have just

446
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 2: been like, I'm finna just do me, just going there,

447
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,640
Speaker 2: And when he told me that, I never thought hard

448
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 2: about my music again, and I feel like I just

449
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaker 2: got better and better?

450
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,719
Speaker 1: Is that common? Like you on a beat and you

451
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,880
Speaker 1: know that they got some mother five, they got heat

452
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:37,400
Speaker 1: on that thing.

453
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,919
Speaker 3: So you're like, I happen to be because you know

454
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 3: it's natural. They gonna compare man who had the hardest

455
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 3: verse on that track?

456
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely for sure?

457
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 3: And you like, all I know, I might not be

458
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 3: the hardest, but I d damn sure ain't gonna say

459
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 3: I'm the Weekend.

460
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Like I go in with that mentality already,

461
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 2: like all right, but I don't think about what I'm

462
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 2: gonna say, Okay, whatever's going on on the song. I

463
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 2: might just listen to the vibe, the hook or a

464
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: lot bit like I barely listen to their verses. Once

465
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 2: I listened to the hook and a little bit of

466
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 2: the verse, I just go in there and just start

467
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: rapping and that shit come out like and you know

468
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: what it is. I'm a real like critical thinker. I

469
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: think a lot. I can't really turn my mind off

470
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 2: to stop thinking. So it's like when I get in

471
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: my zone, I just like rap and say whatever come

472
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 2: to me right at that moment. I'm like what I mean, Bay,

473
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 2: So if I could like make it make more sense

474
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 2: for you, is as an artist, instead of thinking about

475
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 2: the last as they come soon as it gets your

476
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 2: brain you start rapping, you thinking about the end of

477
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 2: the song, Like I want to like you thinking about

478
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: shit before it even come to you what I'm gonna

479
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: say next. I don't do that no more, Like I

480
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: just whatever come to my head. And a lot of

481
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: times I used to think about like damn, should I

482
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 2: say this, Should I not say this? How this is

483
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 2: gonna like get how is this gonna like reflect on

484
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 2: the world or certain things I say, like damn, has

485
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 2: this gonna affect this person? I might be talking about

486
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: something or somebody like, damn it, this is gonna offend people?

487
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: Like I used to think like that all the time.

488
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 2: Now I really just don't care. I don't even givehing.

489
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't care how people are gonna receive it or anything,

490
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, it's like, this

491
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 2: is my art.

492
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: Right, so this is what you're feeling at that time.

493
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: So hey, you receive it how you receive it. But

494
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: this is how I felt.

495
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: Gold with it, and I feel like once I started

496
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 2: thinking like that, like this unstoppable, like I'll never get

497
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 2: right as block or nothing.

498
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Speaker 2: It's good to be right.

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Speaker 3: If you on the track, do you want to hear

525
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 3: other people's verse on that track? Or do you like

526
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: hey give me, let me, let me come in. When

527
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Speaker 3: I come in, and then whatever happens happened, because you know,

528
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: sometime they might play somebody that's on the track. They

529
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: might play that verse, then you hear it, and then

530
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Speaker 3: what have you ever recorded? And then you heard somebody?

531
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Speaker 2: Now I got to do mine over Hell, I've done

532
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 2: that before the show, So I like, that's why I

533
00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: like to hear they shit first.

534
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna lie.

535
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: I definitely like to hear don't send me no blank song.

536
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get offended a little bit, like I'm gonna

537
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: get mad because I don't do that, you know what

538
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, I feel like I gotta at least

539
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: hear your verse to give me some type of direction

540
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: because I could be all over the place and you

541
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: on one subject of the song. You know what I'm saying.

542
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: I feel like people do that intentionally because they want

543
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: to burn you.

544
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: They want to have the hardest ship.

545
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 2: You know, when they do that, I'll be like, no, hell, no,

546
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: send me your verse, you knowe what I'm saying. Or

547
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 2: I take long with the verse on purpose. You feel

548
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Then the see, yeah, I take long

549
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: with the verse on purpose, and then it's like, now

550
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: I'm taking my time with it, because sometimes I will

551
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: go in the studio like way faux bars, be like

552
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: all right, but I'm gonna do another song and then

553
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: come back to that song and lay another faux balls

554
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: and lay eight bars or whatever until I finished the

555
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: whole verse, like I've done that multiple time.

556
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: He said, I want to hear what they're saying.

557
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 2: You ain't finna burn me in hell no, No, you

558
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 2: got to send the whole verse, especially if I know

559
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: that the song done already, Like, hell no, I want

560
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: you to send me everybody on it. Artists do that too, though,

561
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: so do it. Yeah, So say, for instance, if I'm

562
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: about to do a song when Meek Mill, he will

563
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: send me his verse, but Jada Kiss will be on

564
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: the song already too, so he wouldn't send me the

565
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: You're not saying him personally, but artists, right right, It'll

566
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: be other people on the song, but they not sending

567
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: their verses, Like no, I don't need to hear everybody

568
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: that's on the stupid song right now before I lay much.

569
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: But so let's just say, for the sake of argument,

570
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Speaker 1: you got four guys on the song do you do it?

571
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: Does it matter to you which sequence you go?

572
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 3: Are you first, you second, your third? You finish up?

573
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: How does who determines the order the sequence in which?

574
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 3: I feel like, whoever song it is? And just like

575
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: rapper Etiqutt, whoever got the hardest? Verse have to go last,

576
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: first or last. You can't really go in the middle,

577
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

578
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: So I don't really mind, though I don'tly caring because

579
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm gonna have you got that by anyway,

580
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: so it don't matter. And a lot of times they

581
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: put me last on the verse for sure. I'm usually

582
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: always last, I mean the first or last for sure.

583
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go back to the beginning. You said you've

584
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 3: born in use Chicago, East Side of Chicago. Obviously you

585
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: talked about having home is and people that you knew

586
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: and you grew up with not make it as far

587
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 3: as you did. What was that culture like the gang culture?

588
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: When did you realize that you're mad? My life different.

589
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: Yeah than a lot of people that's my age that

590
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: looked like me. They don't have to experience what I'm experienced.

591
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: When did you realize that where you were definitely was

592
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: going to impact what you became.

593
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: When I started traveling, Like when I started to actually

594
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: see other places and go to other cities, and I

595
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: started traveling doing shows when I was like seventeen years old,

596
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: like going to Rhode Island, going to like Boston and

597
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: seeing like, damn this shit totally differently. It's hoods everywhere,

598
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, correct, even like other cities in

599
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: the mid West, like you fee what I'm saying, Minnesota,

600
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: and like everybody got their hoods all like trenched out, dangerous,

601
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: but Chicago is just totally different. And the stuff that

602
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: I grew up seeing, I thought it was normal because

603
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: everybody was doing that, Like you know what I'm saying,

604
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: Like you going to school, Like I seen my first

605
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: guns and shit at school, Like people going to school

606
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: and having guns on them, and I'm in fifth grade,

607
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: sixth grade, you know what I'm saying, They having a

608
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: different bitess off. And then you look up. By the

609
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: time you in eighth grade, we got metal detectives, cause

610
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: niggas know that. You know what I'm saying, People that

611
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: was doing to school and shit and like my first home,

612
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: like I it was like it didn't dawn on me

613
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: that my life was so different. It's so chaotic until

614
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: I started to see people from other places and like

615
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: having conversations with people that was older than me that

616
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: didn't really like that grew up in Chicago but didn't

617
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: grow up how we grew up. That wasn't in the streets,

618
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like I lost some of

619
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: my first friends when I was in like sixth grade,

620
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: Like that's when I started seeing people get killed and

621
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: murdered and shit like all right, but when he went

622
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: to my school, we used to chop it up and

623
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: we'd come back to school next day like, yeah, so

624
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: and so got killed. You feel me, Like, was that

625
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: your first experience with death when you're in the sixth

626
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: grade with death with people getting killed? Yeah, murders, Yeah,

627
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: for sure, Like sixth grade, fifth grade shit like that

628
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: was it was like somebody who you know, cause I

629
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: had old older cousins and brothers and shit that went

630
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: to my school. I got a older brother and I

631
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: got older cousins and it was like we was deep.

632
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: It was probably like nine of us that went to

633
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: that school. So like their friends in they grade, you

634
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: seeing people they hang out with, like damn, he just

635
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: got killed, you feel what I'm saying, And they come

636
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: back to school, people said, talking about the shit, and

637
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: it's like it was so normal, like people just went

638
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: on with they day and then maybe a few months later,

639
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: this person got killed, you know, and it's like I

640
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: didn't really like it didn't hit home for me until

641
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: I got in like seventh and eighth grade, when I

642
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 2: started to like people who I knew and looked up

643
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: to started to get killed, you know what I'm saying.

644
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: And it was all like behind like street shit gang.

645
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: You fee what I'm saying. It wasn't no accidental shit.

646
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 2: It's like, damn, it wasn't no card somebody and somebody

647
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: had hellmi or hands or something like that. No, hell no,

648
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: like somebody intentionally killed you. So it's like it gets

649
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: to a point where you like, damn, only I can't

650
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: become a victim of this shit, you know what I'm saying.

651
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: So that's what I wanted to ask you.

652
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: You said, east Side it's big, but you didn't see

653
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: anybody gets really small. It's really time. But let me

654
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 3: ask you this. Did you know anybody from the East

655
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: Side that had made it out and became successful doing

656
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: something because it's hard being from rural South Georgia.

657
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: We didn't see anybody.

658
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: We didn't know anybody that had made it to the

659
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: NFL or we didn't have anybody to come back and

660
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: talk to us and give us PEP talks and say

661
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: you could become this.

662
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: You know.

663
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: All we saw was advertising, uh military looking for a

664
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: few good men, ain't it. So I'm trying to get

665
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get up out of there, but that's

666
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: not the route I'm trying to go.

667
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: So when did you make it up in your mind?

668
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: Say, you know what, I see all this death happening

669
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: around me, I ain't going that rap.

670
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: Probably when I dropped out of school, Like I was

671
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: still rapping and going to school, and I had like

672
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: a little hood fame and the variety. You feel I'm saying.

673
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: So it's like, by the time I was sixteen years old,

674
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: people actually really know my name. But at the same

675
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: time I was in the streets, so that was bad,

676
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: you feel what I'm saying. It's like, now it's to

677
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: a point where I'm rapping. I got videos on YouTube

678
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: that got twenty thousand and thirty thousand views, forty one

679
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: hundred thousand views, is picking up like for real, like

680
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: really picking up and those hundred thousand coming from other

681
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: cities and stuff like that too, but the majority of

682
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: it is coming from Chicago. So it's like I'm becoming

683
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: a household name in Chicago, you know what I'm saying.

684
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: But I'm still going to school. So it's like, oh, yeah,

685
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: he go to that school. We about to come up

686
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: to that school and get this saying, like yeah, niggas

687
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: was coming up to my school like looking for me

688
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: and shit, And I was like I was always like smart,

689
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: I was steps ahead of everybody, Like I ever like

690
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: really rode the bus for real, like after when I

691
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: got popping, Like my freshman year year, I could get

692
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: on the bus. But by the time I was a sophomore,

693
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: I dropped out. My sophomore year Okay, by the time

694
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: I was a sophomore is like I had to get

695
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: dropped off from school by my homies, had to get

696
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: picked up from school by my homies, Like my mama

697
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: couldn't drop me off or picking me up at school

698
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: because I didn't want to put my mom at home's

699
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: away you feel me, Like I never used to drop

700
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: my sister off when I had a car, I never

701
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: took her to school. I never put her on the

702
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: car with me, because I knew the reality of my life,

703
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: like my car really could get shot up for real,

704
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: and I don't want to have my mama and my

705
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: sister in the car. So it's like when I dropped

706
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: out of school, I'm like, bro, I gotta really do

707
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: this shit for real, Like I really like I made

708
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: a promise to my mom and dad. You know, my

709
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: brother looked gray who passed away his baby Mama told

710
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: me a conversation that I had with my dad I

711
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: didn't remember, and like he was argue with me, yelling

712
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: at me, like, man, he was dropping out of school,

713
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: Like what, you're gonna be a flunky like one of

714
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: these niggas. I'm like, no, I'm about to wrap this

715
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: shit about to work. He like, what's your plan, B

716
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, ain't no plan. Beat this shit. I got

717
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna work, telling you like I'm about to really

718
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: do it. So at that age, I'm sixteen, seventeen years old,

719
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: I hear it really like have a lot of responsibility

720
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: on it, because like, all right, you're not going to school,

721
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: You're not finna sit around his house either, and just

722
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: being around his bitch, getting high, eating up all the

723
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: food through something. They gonna get some money. You know

724
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. That's the type of time, Like you know,

725
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 2: my mom and everybody was on like all right, so

726
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do? And man, thank god that it

727
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: actually started to pick up fast. You feel me, Like

728
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: I dropped out of school maybe six months later or

729
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: eight months later, when I was going into my junior year,

730
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: Nicki min I just called my phone for a feature.

731
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: You feel me, so damn. It started to pick up

732
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: early on, you know. And in the midst of all

733
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: of that, people was dying around me, a lot of

734
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: my closest friends. So it's like I had to still

735
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: maneuver through that because I was still living in Chicago.

736
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's like and when you

737
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: were young, you know, my brain wasn't even fully developed.

738
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah real, so I'm still thinking I.

739
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: Could get you. And you've been young. You invincible? Yeah?

740
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: I thought I was invincible for real, Like I ain't

741
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: gonna lie and I at the same time, let me

742
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: rephrase it, like I knew I wasn't, but I didn't care.

743
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: I was willing to like put my life on the

744
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: line and do certain ship where it's like I go

745
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: to this store, I go to the gas station, I'm

746
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: willing to really like pull my gun out and protect myself.

747
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that at any given moment,

748
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: And that's really like that's crash out ship.

749
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because first of all, if you got to go somewhere,

750
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: you got to carry a gun. You already know you

751
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: already know you were a real o g because like

752
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: my uncles used to say that, like, bro, you gotta

753
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: carry a gun.

754
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't even want to go there, I know because

755
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: you already look at something.

756
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: Probably used the complete opposite, like I'm carrying it everywhere

757
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: like every single while I go. Like we used the

758
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: complete opposite of that. You know what I'm saying, I

759
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: don't want to go nowhere. I can't carry a gun.

760
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: That's how I used to think for real, Like you

761
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: you hoping something off. I used to think like that

762
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: for real.

763
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: Man.

764
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: It's like but it was only because you gotta think

765
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: about it. Like was at an all time had where

766
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm from, like so many of my friends. By time

767
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: I was like when I met my first manager, Mickey,

768
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: who was still my manager, to this day. When I

769
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: met him, he made me like he just always start

770
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: outside the box. He like, man, I'm about to paint

771
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: this picture like you know y'all story you being from

772
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: the hood and excuse me being in the streets and

773
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: losing homies at fourteen fifteen sixteen, He's like, man, I

774
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: want to do a mirror, like write your homies down,

775
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: your closest homies that passed away. You feel me? Like

776
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: he thought it was probably gonna be three four Like

777
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: it was like twenty people on the wall, like seventeen

778
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: people or some shit like that on the wall and

779
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: we spray painted. We there in that lost room, and

780
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: it blew his mind. He like, god, damn, Like you

781
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: really know that many people did? I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah,

782
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: like and that's all in the matter of four year.

783
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah shit like that.

784
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Do you remember how old you were when you got

785
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: your first gun?

786
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: Mmm, like fourteen fourteen? Yeah, yeah, I remember myself.

787
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: I mean normally, you know people try to get like

788
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: PlayStation or xboxes and stuff like that. I mean, you're

789
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: getting that too, and you didn't think it did like

790
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: you thought it would.

791
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: Was it cool to you or do you think, man,

792
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: this is this is a necessary party now.

793
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: I needed it, like for real, Like leaving out of

794
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: the house, going to certain places, you gotta think. Like

795
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: I said, East had big, but it's small. I live

796
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: right here. My auntie lived eight blocks this way. My

797
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: best friend lived five six blocks this way. It's like

798
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: when I ain't had no transportation, I gotta walk to

799
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: the house or catch the bus. You never know who

800
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: you're going to see. So you got that thing on

801
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: hell Yeah yeah buy my first going out like fourteen,

802
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: So what happened? What happened to? We grew up, We

803
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: grew up thirty things. We grew up fighting too, but

804
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: then it was over with it.

805
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: But didn't nobody like taking no ass.

806
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: Nobody want to get that so especially now because it's

807
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: on the internet and then forever. So you take a

808
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 3: hell and I got to go get I gotta go

809
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 3: get get get back.

810
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: That's another thing, Like I'm not even being funny. I

811
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: ain't joking. Like me and all my homies like knew

812
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: how to fight. Yeah, we really used to whoop niggas

813
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: ass for so it's like they used to get mad

814
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: and they started shooting at us. It's for real, for real,

815
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: to be honest, like we like all my homies, not

816
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: a fight, right. My big brother he know to fight goodest.

817
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. My big cousins now to

818
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: fight goodest. And I was the youngest. They used to

819
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: beat me up all the time. So it's like I

820
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: grew up fighting my whole life and then got to

821
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: think I'm light skin. Niggas used to pick yeah, yeah, yeah,

822
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: you gotta get the other. Yeah, you don't do that, niggas.

823
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: You know you call me, you play with me and

824
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: call me south pretty boy. My name Herbert is call

825
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: me hershey man. Yeah yeah, yeah, you right down. You

826
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: can do life getting at your name Herbert. Oh yeah,

827
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: you gotta doubles. We have to fight a lot, like

828
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: all the time, you know what I'm saying. So it's

829
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: like I grew up knowing how to fight. But it

830
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: got to a point where it's like, ain't nobody feelings,

831
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: Just let you just beat them up. You feel me, nigga,

832
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: don't want to do something to you. Yeah.

833
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

834
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: It got to a point where me was like, I

835
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: don't even got enough love for you to be fighting

836
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: you because I know if I whoop, you gonna try

837
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: to shoot me anyway. I might as well just skip

838
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: to the get down. We might as well we're gonna do.

839
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: You're like, hey, in the beginning, d you ain't got

840
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: no member park, I felt like that was that was

841
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: just what was going on. Man, I ain't gonna lie

842
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: to you, but you make a then you got shot.

843
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, at sixteen, walking through that day, wake up like hey, man,

844
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: sons out, I mean evan because sometimes people get like man,

845
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: I just I mean, I've had things happen to me.

846
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: It was a good day up into that part. It

847
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: was a good ass day. I ain't gonna lie like

848
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: I had. I was fresh as brand new outfit. I

849
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: had on like true religion, Louis Bell leaders, hoodie leaders,

850
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 2: hat wheat timbulings. You know, it's so crazy. I'm gonna

851
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: tell you a funny story too. So I had a

852
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: photo shoot with a I think it was Elevator magazine

853
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: at the time, and I was shooting like content for

854
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: my first mixtape, walking the Face of the Land. So

855
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: I was downtown feeling good, nice fit on. You feel

856
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: me like, dressed up, smoking and just chilling like I

857
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: had a great day, great photo shoot. So it's like

858
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: I'm like it was in the middle of the summer.

859
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: Too hot outside, Yeah, you feel me. I'm done with

860
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: the shoot probably about six o'clock. I'm like, oh, y'all

861
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: know for show to block busting right now? It's too

862
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: many people out there. It's hot, I know it is. Yeah.

863
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: So but fast forward that day, I'm gonna tell you,

864
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: like the timblers I had on I couldn't. I didn't

865
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: have no time to go to. It's a store called

866
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: DTL Lot like right by my grandma house. I didn't

867
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: have time to go there and go get me no timblers.

868
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: So my little brother had a fresh pair of teams

869
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 2: in the crib. I'm like, man, let me get these teams,

870
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: right he Hell no, Man, you go get your own teams.

871
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: Like I'm not getting it to you. Oh man, Bro,

872
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: Hun'm finna give you one fifty for the shoes right now.

873
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: That's what teams like, one hundred dollars. Yeah. Like, I'm like,

874
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: I'm about to give you one fifty for the shoes. Bro,

875
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: just let me get him. He's still no, no, hell no,

876
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: I want to. I'm finna put my TMS on ool.

877
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: So I wound up like kind of like strong arm

878
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: the matter of and still getting money, Like, bro, give

879
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: me these damn shoes. I get shot in the shoes.

880
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: I got in the foot. He was like once he

881
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: was crying right his baby mama told me like, yeah,

882
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: herb got shot. I'm gonna still tell you the story,

883
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: like how it happened, but I'm just sitting this part.

884
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: He like, yeah, her got shot. You on the phone

885
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: crying and ship. So he wound up find out he

886
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: was good like that, I was good. He didn't know

887
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: at first. He feel me so on Twitter like I

888
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: was famous a little bit when I got shot. So

889
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: they on Twitter talking about the ship. When he found

890
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: out I was good and I got shot in the foot,

891
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: this fuck he was only mad about his shoes. He

892
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: only mad about the shoes. Now after I paid him

893
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: for him and everything, nigga got shot in my tails

894
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: like ship like that, Like that's not like ship I

895
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: paid you for Yeah, Like come on, bro, for real.

896
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: But as matter of fact, you know what it was.

897
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: I was on. He was so on some petty ship.

898
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: He wasn't even gonna bat no. I think I let

899
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: him finest me. I gave him the money and still

900
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: told him like, bro, I'm gonna gillo teams back like

901
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: you could wear him to the shoot and I'm gonna

902
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: gill your shoes back. So that's why he was mad,

903
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: like nigga, he was supposed to give my ship back, nigger.

904
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: But anyway, so look, it was a hot, like I said,

905
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: a hot summer day. Go outside of my block and

906
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: we out that deep like deep deep, probably like fifty

907
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: sixty of us, you know what I'm saying. That My

908
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: hood was like packed. So it's like we'll be posted

909
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: up on one block probably twenty thirty people girls. Then

910
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: we on the whole next block, twenty thirty people girls

911
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: like and just rotating walking back and forth from stores.

912
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: It was one of them type of vibs and we

913
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: were just out there chilling with a bunch of girls

914
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: and shit, and you know, it's so crazy. Like two

915
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: of my homies head walked up on the corner and

916
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: told him like, hey, I just seen some niggas riding

917
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: with hoodies on and shit, Like you fel what I'm saying,

918
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: They finla come right through here, you feel me? Like

919
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: he gave us a warning and everything he told me

920
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: like move around, stamp from right here. One of my

921
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: homies who passed away, Long live my homie cap Man

922
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: Marvick Carr. He got he got like two girls right there.

923
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: I think he talking to and I was talking to

924
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: one of the girls at the time, and another girl

925
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: that was right there was one of my home one

926
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: of the guys who wore me my homie. It was

927
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: his baby mama at the time. So when he like, man,

928
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: move around from right hill, like he tell us move around,

929
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: you feel I'm saying, and they finna go on the

930
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: next block and just like secure the area because they

931
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: on point. But my homie on some cocky shit like man,

932
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: the niggas like let him come, you feel what I'm saying.

933
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: And in the back of my mind, I knew they

934
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: weren't line. I'm like, nah, my niggas finna come right yet.

935
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: So I told the girls, like y'all move around, just

936
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: go to the corner type shit, And they moved around.

937
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: But we never moved or we never just like what damn,

938
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: you gave him the hands up and you and your

939
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: own warning. I ain't. I just we just stayed right there.

940
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: And you know, it's so crazy, like when it happened,

941
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: we always before it happened. I mean, we always like

942
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: on this one block and the police pulled up right

943
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: there and did some shit like everybody looked like they

944
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: didn't even hop out and frisk be cause they was

945
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: like everybody, lift y'all shirt up, it just like to

946
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: make sure we ain't had no guns on the type

947
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: of shit, lift our shirt up. And I went around

948
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: the block and law and behold. Soon as I get

949
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: to the corner, after I told the girls to move around,

950
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: they just pulled up shooting, and I got hit, and

951
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: like me and like eight other my homies, like nine

952
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: of us got hit. That shit was on the newspaper

953
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: article like, yeah, some crazy shit for sure. Yeah, like

954
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: nine of us got shut there.

955
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: Then you wish you to have that thing on you weren't.

956
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: Nah, I ain't gonna lie, of course for sure, but

957
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna keep it a buck

958
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: with you for real, for real. When that shit happened,

959
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: when the police pulled right there, I threw my gun

960
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: like on a like like in the in the field.

961
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah under somewhere. I heard it. Only thirty five seconds

962
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: or what happened, Like you.

963
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: Feel me, y'all saw him coming, So you saw the

964
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 3: police coming, Yeah, you got rid.

965
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: Of and then they walked up like on some lift

966
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: y'all shirt up. But to be honest, though, I feel

967
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: like it was like some shit well like it might

968
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: have called the police, like oh yeah, they right there

969
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: standing with guns so we could get dispersed or whatever,

970
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: and didn't come around and do what they did type

971
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: shit you feel I'm saying. I feel like it was

972
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: a situation like that. Yeah, with that the moment that

973
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: you real lies, you know what, I'm mad to get it.

974
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm mad. I'm mad to get it.

975
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: Somebody, k I'm somebody now because like you said, your

976
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: music has started to take off, You're not You're not

977
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: the same.

978
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be completely honest with you.

979
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: Man.

980
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Hell no, I was right you were looking for I

981
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: was right back out there, man, I got shot. I

982
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: probably went out there the next day or the day

983
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: after that with a boot on my leg, just outside

984
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: standing looking for hoping they cut back, ain't it. Nah,

985
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: not even that, It was just like not caring, like

986
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: really just not caring if they come back. For really

987
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: saying because we I mean, it's not like we was

988
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: oblivious to it, like we know possibly like yeah, Nigga

989
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: come back through this big shooting. So it's a war zone.

990
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: It's hot. You know what I'm saying, come through this

991
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: bit shooting at any day. But I wasn't worried about

992
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: I wasn't scared, you know what I'm saying. Like, and

993
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: like I said, right before I got shot, I did

994
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: have a gun on me. I threw it, you know

995
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: what I'm saying when the police came. So it's like

996
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: even when I was back out there the next day,

997
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: I was back out there with a boot, can't run,

998
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: but got guns on me. Still, Like, but the ain't

999
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: nobody with their life doing that? No, not that day, No,

1000
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: they just got people just got here. Yeah nobody lost

1001
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: their life for sure, but nine of us like got

1002
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: shot that day for sure. That shit made the news

1003
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: and everything.

1004
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: Like damn how many it was in the car?

1005
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: Four five?

1006
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: What the car that came they roll through? Yeah, they came,

1007
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: but they came spread. They get that bitty came hot.

1008
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: The boys came hot.

1009
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: Damn, man, I just.

1010
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: You told the story, like you know what You're like,

1011
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 3: you realize that, you know what, I'm not the same

1012
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: guy anymore, and me not being the same guy anymore.

1013
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: I can't put people that I love in harm's way, Mom,

1014
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: you ain't driving me to school no more, little sis,

1015
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: you not. I'm not dropping you off the school. The

1016
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: home is that, this is what we this is who

1017
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: we are. Were good with it. Whatever happened to us,

1018
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 3: I can live with that. But if something would have

1019
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: happened to my mom or sister, I'm really gonna go

1020
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: crazy and some stuff go. Really it's never gonna end, yeah,

1021
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 3: because if you get my mom and my sister, it's

1022
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: never gonna end.

1023
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: So I'm not even I don't got none to live

1024
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: for any point for sure. So it's like, yeah, I

1025
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: understood that early. Like I never put my mom in

1026
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: a car, my aunties, my grandmother, nobody ever got in

1027
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: a call at me, and I never got in a

1028
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: car with them, Like I would rather just wait all

1029
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: day until somebody picked me up before I desperately tell

1030
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: my mama to drop me off somewhere, you feel me,

1031
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: And I DIDNE did that many and many a times,

1032
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: you know. And the first thing I did when I

1033
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: got some real money, the very first thing I did,

1034
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: was bought my mama house far far far away, right

1035
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: super far, like I mean, my mama like forty minutes

1036
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: away from the hood. You know, and nobody never knew

1037
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 2: where she lived. Only probably three of my closest friends

1038
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: ever been to my mama house. Still to this day,

1039
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: you feel me. So I always been one of the

1040
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: kind of people just like you know, protect family. My

1041
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: dad taught me that, Like I come from a two

1042
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: parent household, so my pops always told me, like, protect

1043
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: your family no matter what you got going on, you

1044
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 2: feel me. And my parents always like trusted me enough

1045
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: to just make good decisions. Like although I was in

1046
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: the streets and I had like shit going on, they

1047
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: trusted me to never bring it back to my house,

1048
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And like I took that

1049
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: real serious.

1050
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: You mentioned that you were in the street.

1051
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: You come from a two parent household, your dad, your

1052
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 3: mom ever say, son.

1053
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: Son, you don't have to do that. I think I

1054
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: was just too You weren't trying to hear that I was. Yeah,

1055
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: I was too far gone, like I'm not gonna lie.

1056
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: And I always been like real strong headed like and

1057
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: my dad he know me, like me and him the

1058
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: same sign and everything. So it's like once I was

1059
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: already in it, all they could really do is tell

1060
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: me just be smart for me, like it was it

1061
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: was too too late.

1062
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: You went to high school with King Von?

1063
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, VN probably was in there one or two.

1064
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: It's that I ain't come back, yeah for sure. Yeah,

1065
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: I definitely went to high school with Londo.

1066
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: So what so what was it? So?

1067
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 3: I mean, say you went to school not not not

1068
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: very long, but when you what was your what was

1069
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: your thoughts when you first met it?

1070
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: I actually I had already known like who VN was

1071
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: before school because we got mutual friends, right, Okay, my homie,

1072
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: like I said, one of my best friends walk He

1073
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 2: from the projects that got knocked down, and a lot

1074
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: of those people from like von hood like oh Block

1075
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: and shit like that, they from those projects. Okay, So

1076
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: like they had already like known each other and we

1077
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: didn't been around each other many a time, so it's

1078
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 2: like already like Von and knew it, like and knew

1079
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: like what he was about, Like bro's the real deal

1080
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: for real?

1081
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: Who's on that type of time for really?

1082
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: No? For sure?

1083
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: So like is hey, they said, I mean, I'll be

1084
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: reading I don't know if it's true or not, but

1085
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: I'll be hearing they like, Man, if you wouldn't do it, Von,

1086
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: I go do it myself.

1087
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it was a lot of people like

1088
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: that in Chicago for really. Hell yeah, it was a

1089
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: lot of people. But you got to think about it

1090
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: when you when you on that type of time, you

1091
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: can't really like and this is something that's really true.

1092
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: I feel like if you second guessing yourself, and you

1093
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: could pull me up some more too. If you second

1094
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: guessing yourself and you don't want to do it, just

1095
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: don't do it. You shouldn't do it, right, you know

1096
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And I believe even that, Like I

1097
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to have nobody around me for real that

1098
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: I got to like question the second guess because that

1099
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: could cost your life for real, Like somebody will choke

1100
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: up and freeze and ooh, that's a cost of your life.

1101
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, for sure, if he wasn't on

1102
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: that type of time, he didn't even want to hang

1103
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: with you. I wouldn't want to hang with you either,

1104
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: because it's like you really don't want to do this,

1105
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: go fid you something else to do the same for you,

1106
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, yeah, for sure,

1107
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: for sure, I'm like that was probably the first day

1108
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: of school when I seen Von and there he walked

1109
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: up to my homie like, hey boy, it's going down

1110
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: and this like you feel what I'm saying, like he

1111
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 2: already wants us, Like, boy, y'all be on point here.

1112
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 3: Damn for sure. How difficult was it for you to

1113
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: watch him getting murdered on video?

1114
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: That shit broke my heart for sure, Like I don't, like,

1115
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't really be like emotional for real, Like I'm

1116
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: so numb to death. I'm not a stranger to it

1117
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: because I've been experiencing it my whole life. But like

1118
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: when he when he died and and that shit, like

1119
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: that shit.

1120
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 3: Really like right, not thinking about it, like did you

1121
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: hear about it and then watch the video or did

1122
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: you see the video first?

1123
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: Because did you.

1124
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: Get I had no, I had heard about it already.

1125
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: I heard about it that night it happened, you know

1126
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Because we got so many mutual friends,

1127
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: and shit got right to me. You feel me, Like

1128
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: as soon as it happened, I knew probably like an

1129
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: hour later, you feel me? Right, And then I seen

1130
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: the video and yeah, that shit definitely made me emotional

1131
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: for sure, like just seeing it and no matter like

1132
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: and I don't want people to like take what I'm

1133
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: saying and misconfuse it. Like when we come from sometimes

1134
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: you just you not Sometimes a lot of times you

1135
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 2: got to adapt to your environment. Like no matter what

1136
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: you might think somebody did or some shit a nigga

1137
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: might did, like we really be having good hearts at

1138
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: the end of the day, Like I don't care what

1139
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: Voughon did in the streets. That was a good nigga,

1140
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: like a real nigga. You feel what I'm saying. It's like,

1141
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 2: don't give me or I believe in like universal low.

1142
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, so like haven't played out

1143
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: and played out? Okay, you feel me? You live by

1144
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: a gun. You dibb out a gun. You know what

1145
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like a real real that come from the streets.

1146
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Understand understand that, understand that one hundred percent. But just

1147
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: seeing it, like you know what I'm saying, just seeing

1148
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 2: like damn, like that ship, I feel like that wasn't

1149
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 2: his story, Like you know what I'm saying. I feel

1150
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: like it just he had so much more life, so

1151
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: much more shit to do, Like you feel me Like

1152
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 2: I took VN on his first tour, like as a

1153
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 2: as a main artist, like he he performed, then I perform.

1154
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: You feel me? So it's like I always fuck with bro,

1155
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: I always believed in him. You feel me like when

1156
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: that shit happened, it just like he threw me out.

1157
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: It just it just made me feel like like, Bro,

1158
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: you can't take this shit for granted, Like this shit

1159
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: help me.

1160
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: Help me understand, Bro, your whole life you thinking, and

1161
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 3: I'm sure he thought the very same thing. I want

1162
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 3: to get out of this environment. He's out, he's a

1163
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: big rapper.

1164
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: Why go back? Why do that?

1165
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: Why continue to do that?

1166
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: I feel like ain't even feel like like this is

1167
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: the truth? Is just like when that shiit in you

1168
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: is in you like that shit just it's easy for you,

1169
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: Like you gotta really you gotta work harder on not

1170
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: doing something to somebody than then in anything else. You

1171
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: feel what I'm saying. So it's like I think you

1172
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: feel like when you know what you're capable of, you

1173
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: feel like somebody playing with you, you would just do

1174
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 2: something like you would just make you how.

1175
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: You gottam play with you? You're not even supposed to

1176
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: be in that invibrary. Guess what?

1177
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I make four five million dollars a year. Aren't

1178
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: you gonna surround yourself because you don't need to be

1179
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: in that environment anymore because those that those guys are

1180
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: no longer on your level. Now, you hang around with

1181
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: people that's on your level. You hang with me, you

1182
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: hang with Kilchia, you hang with Thumb, you hang with

1183
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 3: those type of people.

1184
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: Prob I ain't on this no more. It's like you

1185
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: gotta it take a little minute to adjust.

1186
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: Though.

1187
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: It's not like a snap of a finger. Okay, vn

1188
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: wasn't He wasn't a millionaire for years. You know what

1189
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like he's still still coming out the streets.

1190
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, He getting his money what

1191
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: he's doing, But it takes you a long time to

1192
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: really process that this is my life, right, you feel

1193
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So it's like, naturally, he really still

1194
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: a street nigga, So he gonna react like howgh street react?

1195
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: You feel me like it took me years and years

1196
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: to just be like shit ain't worth it? Like you

1197
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I' about to give you

1198
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: a scenario. I was just saying, North Carolina Rally, some

1199
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: dumb ass shits niggas walked up on me and like

1200
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: tried me in them all like saying some shit to

1201
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: me like yeah, I'm not even gonna like save the

1202
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: artists or whatever. He walked up to me to about

1203
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: another artist like yeah, we got this chain, tell him

1204
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: bad back, like and I'm like, the fuck you mean?

1205
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: I don't care about that shit, Like I'm like, what

1206
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: are you telling me? Folk? That's exactly what I said

1207
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: to him, Like yeah, I'm just saying like if he

1208
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: want to get it, tell him get up with us.

1209
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: I said, Bro, I'm sure they know how they find

1210
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: y'all and get that shit back if they want. And

1211
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm walking off and he said some shit like yeah, cause, nigga,

1212
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: we was just just just telling you, like, bro, you

1213
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: a little too aggressive, like we take your shit. I

1214
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: ain't even had no jury on or nothing. I just

1215
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: looked back and walked off like that's one of them.

1216
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: But that's one of the hardest things to do, to

1217
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: walk away for real, Like you know what I'm saying,

1218
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: Like I had to grow into that person. Was like

1219
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: I know for a fact, I got ten shopping bags

1220
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: in my hand. I dropped these shopping bags and we'll

1221
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: just tear this whole fucking all up. I really do

1222
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: that with y'all. Two of y'all, and it's two of

1223
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: me and my homie, you know what I'm saying. And

1224
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 2: I had to tell him, like come on, we're gone, bro,

1225
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: like it ain't really worth it, not feeling I don't

1226
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: have no point to prove for real, like you gotta

1227
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: really get me out of my element or put your

1228
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 2: hands on me and call some physical harm. And I

1229
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: know that y'all really not on that type of time

1230
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: because I just turned my back on y'all and.

1231
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: You walked on.

1232
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: So if y'all really wanted to do something.

1233
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 3: Y'all here, y'all really want to do something y'all, y'all

1234
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: would even exactly.

1235
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: But it's like when I turned around, I never looked back, literally,

1236
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: I never looked back to see if they follow me

1237
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: and nothing. I really made them part of my whole

1238
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: back And it's like that shit is that's growth, Like

1239
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: I never that person, like because you never give up,

1240
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: Never that person for real, Like I'm not finna turn

1241
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: around on y'all. I'm not finna just walk off after

1242
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: you just saying you would take my ship, would like

1243
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: take what what you're talking about, what you want to

1244
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 2: do in here right now? I would not cared about

1245
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 2: my clothes that I just about none of this ship.

1246
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, Like I had to grow

1247
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: into that person. It took years to do that, you

1248
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: feel I'm saying. I'm saying all that to say Vaughn

1249
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 2: hadn't became that person yet to just like let shit

1250
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: go sweep it under the road, like he couldn't let that. Yeah,

1251
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: like whatever whatever was on his mind was on his

1252
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: mind where he just felt like, all right, bet, I'm

1253
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: finna just go do what I gotta do.

1254
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: Knowing that if you live like that, you gotta always

1255
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: always have both eyes, not one eye, both eyes, three eyes.

1256
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: Are you surprised that hit somebody they were able to

1257
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 3: get to drop on him like they.

1258
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: Did, No, I'm not, because that's that's just how shit happened,

1259
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, That it happened like that,

1260
00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: and like super quick. I didn't seen that happen a

1261
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: hundred times, not just to him, So no, I wasn't.

1262
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised at all. I was just really just

1263
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: heartbroken bad for real, because like once it once shit happened.

1264
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: It's nothing you could do, regardless of have of your

1265
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: homies react or whatever. What's done is done to him

1266
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: is already ain't coming back exactly. So it's like when

1267
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: when you understand that, like I didn't seen it so

1268
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: many times, so it's like I know, and this is

1269
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: just my mentality though to be honest, Like I always

1270
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: feel like something is going to happen to me anyway

1271
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: when I walk out the house, I'm already in feeling

1272
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: like I don't I don't put it. I'm not putting

1273
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: it in the air, like I don't feel like somebody

1274
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: gonna do something to me. But I just know the

1275
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: possibilities like it can't happen. So that's what keep me

1276
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: on my square, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm

1277
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 2: not gonna get into a fist fight at a club.

1278
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get into a fist fight at the mall.

1279
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna because I got to get home to

1280
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: my kids. So it's like I'm already gonna go to

1281
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: the highest level. Like that's what I mean by like

1282
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm already feeling like something is gonna happen to me.

1283
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm afraid that's what I'm saying, Like it's okay to

1284
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: be afraid. I think being scary is gonna get you

1285
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: home every time. You fee what I'm saying, Like I

1286
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: don't care about that, Like I tellically I'm scared because

1287
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna react like I'm scared. You knowe what I'm saying.

1288
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: Do you feel even though you've been you're like, bro,

1289
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: I done moved away from that.

1290
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: That ain't that ain't even that it's in me. I

1291
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: just want you to know it's in me. But I

1292
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: don't want him to come. I ain't even hon that

1293
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: type of time. I don't want to at all. But

1294
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: you gotta. And this is the real the part about

1295
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: it though, for real, Like I feel like when you

1296
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: become that person, they just pull at you, like yeah,

1297
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: especially people who from waym they do get it out you.

1298
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: They know how to get it out you. And it's

1299
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: like it's a full time job to like not react

1300
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: and not crash out, Like let people say stuff, lets

1301
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: people say certain things because I'm always always been a

1302
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: kind of guy, like I really go show love, Like

1303
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: when I'm back home, I do events, I do stuff

1304
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: for the kids, for the community. You feel what I'm

1305
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: saying I go out, I enjoy myself. All my homies

1306
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: who want to come out, we can go to the

1307
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: club and do all that kind of stuff. So I know,

1308
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: responding negativity because it's like I'm outside too much, right

1309
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,959
Speaker 2: and you will see me. I don't want to bring

1310
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: that type of energy on myself. You feel what I'm saying.

1311
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: So it's like once you see it, you will see stuff.

1312
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: It might make you upset, you seeing stuff on the internet.

1313
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 2: You want to look at the comments and all that shit,

1314
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: but you can't really let it affect you because you're

1315
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: putting it on you, Like you're putting too much of

1316
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: that energy on you, and people will just try to

1317
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: try you and just make a name for themself. I

1318
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: haven't seen it so many times where it's like, yeah,

1319
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: you could change an elevate and say I don't want

1320
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: to be that person no more. But you gotta stay sharp.

1321
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: You have to because in the instant, in the instant,

1322
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: it happens.

1323
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 3: So it's like you g they know you, bro, that

1324
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 3: ain't own him, that's in him. Yeah he really liked that. Yeah,

1325
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 3: And so you like, go go to your weight.

1326
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: You got people who will really like know that and

1327
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: crash because they don't got none to live for, right,

1328
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: They like they don't really even dan they care about

1329
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: their life that much. Yeah, if you don't give it

1330
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: down here, like he want me to do something to him,

1331
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: damn there. Just so it's like I could my life up,

1332
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: I could go to jail or possibly die anything. Like

1333
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: people really want you to stoop down to their level

1334
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: a lot, like especially coming from Chicago. You know what

1335
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I see it a lot on and

1336
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: seen it so many times. And what I'm saying about

1337
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: like staying sharp is like you don't have to become

1338
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: the aggressor in a situation, but you gotta create boundaries.

1339
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: Like as soon as somebody cross that line, you gotta

1340
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: take it there. That's the only way that it's gonna

1341
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: really like resolve, in my opinion, somebody cross that line

1342
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: and say certain ship. Like my mama always told me,

1343
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: somebody tell you they're crazy believe. So it's like if

1344
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: somebody say something to me, I'm automatically on radar and

1345
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm ready to like take it to the highest level

1346
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: because it's like why you even trying me. I gotta

1347
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: I gotta make it home. So we're not Finna. It's

1348
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: not Finna, be no in between each between. Who want

1349
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: to take it? Yeah, if you want to take it there,

1350
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna take it all the way there, man, or

1351
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: we're just not gonna take it there at all. You

1352
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1353
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 3: Jeez, I mean we usually like he crazy, like play

1354
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 3: play crazy or get a check crazy, you know, diferents.

1355
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: Now for show that's definitely like this, two different cans,

1356
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: two different can like and a lot of people get

1357
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: a check crazy, like a lot of people really like

1358
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like and I seen I

1359
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: know it, Like in Chicago, it's like that place is different,

1360
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: like anybody, the craziest looking person you will never think

1361
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: of really do something to you. So it's like you

1362
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: gotta just stay on.

1363
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: What doesn't that get tired?

1364
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1365
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean because you

1366
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 3: what that movie Bumpy Johnson with a with whispers, you know, and.

1367
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm tired, Yes, I'm tired. Yeah, that's one

1368
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: of my favorite movies ever.

1369
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I mean, have you ever had a

1370
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 3: peaceful night sleep? Can you resk? Can you just lay

1371
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: down it? Like, don't get in a rem sleep.

1372
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: You know. The only time I really sleep like that

1373
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: is when I'm home with my girl, with my kids,

1374
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: like for real, even on the road, like I still

1375
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: had nightmares a lot, bro like nightmares like sleep paralysis,

1376
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: Like it'd be hard for me, Like my girl'll be

1377
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: waking me up sometimes she's like, man, what's wrong with you?

1378
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: Shall Are you crying? Or sleep you jumping? Like yeah,

1379
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: feel me like all of that kind of stuff, And

1380
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: I hate it though I'm not gonna lie. I don't

1381
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: like it at all, you feel what I'm saying. And

1382
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: I didn't try it all of you know, I got

1383
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: a real nonprofit where I get therapy to all types

1384
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: of kids. I didn't try therapy myself. I'm still, you know,

1385
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: believe in therapy and try to have sessions as much

1386
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: as I can, you feel I'm saying, But it's like

1387
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: it don't really help for real for real, especially with

1388
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: like sleep and stuff like that. Like I got bad insomnia.

1389
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: I'll be up all night all night and I might

1390
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 2: get a couple hours of sleep. And I feel like though,

1391
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: in my opinion, the only way is gonna kind of

1392
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: like change, I'm going to have to really retire and

1393
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: not deal with people and not deal with the ship

1394
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 2: that I deal with on the It's a long time.

1395
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: So it's like, I probably don't get no good night

1396
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: of sleep until I'm fifty years older, fifty five years old.

1397
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. You don't get no good.

1398
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: Trust.

1399
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: You had a friend that reportedly was killed. I think

1400
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: he was shot at the barbershop.

1401
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who I like, that was my best friend.

1402
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: But I called him my little brother. Who that's who's

1403
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: mad at me about the show?

1404
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, Yeah, obviously you say that was your

1405
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: best friend.

1406
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: You called it, you know, like of your little brother.

1407
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 3: When you got that news, what what some of the

1408
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: emotions you.

1409
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: Started to feel? Honestly, that was probably one of the

1410
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: worst days of my life for sure. Like I I

1411
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: never felt that like shock and hurt and disappointment like

1412
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: when it happened, and you know, it's so crazy. He

1413
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: probably he mighta got killed eleven am Chicago time, So

1414
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: that's like nine ayem in la. I'm fresh coming from

1415
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: the studio, Me and him texting paragraphs at four am.

1416
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: Like our last conversation was really just us telling each

1417
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: other how much we love each other and had like, man, bro,

1418
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: you know I don't want nothing from you. I never

1419
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: wanted nothing from you. I just want you to like win.

1420
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: I just want the best, pay you nothing from you.

1421
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: That was the last conversation we hit talking like that

1422
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: you feel what I'm saying. So I'm on a couch

1423
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: sleep at home, and this girl hit me like, I'm

1424
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: so sorry about your brother. Like it's this girl that

1425
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: do like philanthropy, work in Chicago, you feel I'm saying.

1426
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 2: And her brother worked at the barbershop, so she knew

1427
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: already right as soon as it happened. You feel me.

1428
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: And I'm like what. I'm like, what're you talking about?

1429
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry about him? I'm like what I got mad?

1430
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: I ain't even say nothing. I didn't like respond back

1431
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: to nothing. And then right after that, I get a

1432
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 2: call from one of my homies like yeah, look at

1433
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: I just got shot in the barbershop. And it's like

1434
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: I just lost it. I got up and I started praying.

1435
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: I had my knees to start praying like please, please,

1436
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: please just let him pull through this shit, like pretty please?

1437
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. And at that moment, I

1438
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: couldn't think straight, Like the only thing I could do

1439
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: was get on the plane in Chicago. Like I got

1440
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: on the plane, like I had to, Like I didn't

1441
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: even feel right being in LA and you know, he

1442
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: just passed away. So it's like I had to like

1443
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: like really, it was just all I felt was like anger,

1444
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: like I wanted to do something like retaliate, you know

1445
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like me being who I am, g

1446
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: Herbo and start really went to Chicago and just like

1447
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: I lost my mind for it was like him, he

1448
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: ain't never like that wasn't him, you feel I'm saying, Like,

1449
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. Yeah he's the street through he

1450
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: was in the streets with us, but that just wasn't him.

1451
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: And I really felt like somebody did that to him

1452
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: to hurt me, like that was the whole thing. And

1453
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: I said it a lot, and you know it's so crazy.

1454
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: His grandma, who I call my grandma, like that's my grandma,

1455
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: still talk to us as much as possible. I go

1456
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: see whatever she needed, Like that's really to his family.

1457
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm the closest thing to him like that they even

1458
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: have you feel what I'm saying, and you know, his

1459
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: kids is my god kids or it's like that's my

1460
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 2: real deal. Family. I lived with him, I lived in

1461
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 2: their house when I ain't had nothing. It's like I

1462
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: felt like I was responsible for his death for a

1463
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: long time and it happened in twenty twenty one. And

1464
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: I didn't even I used to drink at all, Like

1465
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,439
Speaker 2: I used to drink for sure, Like I didn't drink.

1466
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't even. I was just like niggas just smoke

1467
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: get hat like, yeah, me either, but we made it

1468
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: up a lost has like I was. I was one

1469
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: of them guys. Was like I drink once a year,

1470
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: twice a year. Maybe you know what I'm saying. And

1471
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: one cup but gave me drunk. This is our third cup.

1472
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: You feel I ain't no rookie no more. But I'm

1473
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: saying that to say, like and I don't. I don't

1474
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: even like I don't even care, Like I'm gonna just

1475
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: be honest. Like when I when I went to Chicago,

1476
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: I went like on time and like I took a

1477
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: hoodie I had, I had packed all types of crazy ship.

1478
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: I was finna go to Chicago just like I was

1479
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: ready to throw I was ready to throw my life

1480
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: away for real. I drove my track hout to one

1481
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: of my my man's crib in La who I like

1482
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: was in business with and just talking to him, and

1483
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: I had the suitcase in the back of my track

1484
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: out and when he was upstairs talking and he like, man,

1485
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: you need a drink. Gave me a drink. I took it,

1486
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like a real like I don't believe in coincidence,

1487
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm a real spiritual person. When I'm on my head,

1488
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I can't believe I'm trying to go

1489
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: back to Chicago. That's when I know he was dead.

1490
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 2: That's when I found out he was dead already. I'm like, bro,

1491
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to Chicago. This shit, Like

1492
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 2: I really was ready to like just throw my life away.

1493
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: I really didn't give for real when that shit happened.

1494
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: I looked out the window. I seen like two hundred

1495
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: birds flying like just right out the window, like it's

1496
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: a flock of birds, so many birds. I'm like, damn, man,

1497
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: little bro with us, but go to heaven like you

1498
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: feel like in my head, I'm like, fuck it, man,

1499
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: I ain't even finna go back and crash out like

1500
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: me seeing them birds go up and it's just like

1501
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: it to calm me down. Yeah, in a way like

1502
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: for real. Even the first, like literally the very first

1503
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: when it happened, I ain't even got on the plane yet.

1504
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm still like I took like three shots of Hennessy

1505
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: and I'm still in my head. I'm still angry, of course,

1506
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 2: but I'm like, damn looking at these birds while I'm

1507
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: thinking about this shit, Like damn, man, you know, it

1508
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 2: just my head up, like I ain't finna crash out.

1509
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: But I get on the plane still, and I left

1510
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: the whole suitcase. That's how you know, my mind racing.

1511
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 2: I left the whole suitcase in my track. I got

1512
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: in a black truck to the airport. I didn't even

1513
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 2: grab a suitcase out of my bag, I mean out

1514
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 2: of my car. And I get on the plane. I

1515
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: go to sleep, and I swear to God, I had

1516
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: a dream that meet him and his baby, his second

1517
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: baby mama. He got to two way mama, Me and

1518
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: him and his second baby. Mama was just walking around

1519
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: the neighborhood, going door to door like asking who killed him?

1520
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: And he with me like met him and his baby mama,

1521
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: just ask him like yeah, who killed bro? But he

1522
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: right there with me, asking who killed him? You see

1523
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And it's like I don't know that

1524
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: ship my head up. I got off the plane, like damn,

1525
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 2: I just head this is crazy ass dream. Like I

1526
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: go straight to his grandma house and see a start crying,

1527
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: hug and shit. I'm just like, man, you ain't like

1528
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 2: you ain't got to worry about nothing, Like you know

1529
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, yeah, he gone, but you got me.

1530
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: I promise him always be there, Like you know what

1531
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm gonna be there for his kids, Like

1532
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 2: I took on that role and responsibility like no matter what,

1533
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: how big, how much my career is hectic, like I'm

1534
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: will always be there for his family. You know what

1535
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like I can't do that if I

1536
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: crash out. So it's like I just took on that

1537
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: responsibility of being the closest thing to him, you know,

1538
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: for his family, and I'm grateful for that. I appreciate

1539
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: that when I hear that, because that was somebody that

1540
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: I love unconditionally, and I know his family loved me,

1541
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: and it's like I feel like they when they tell

1542
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: me that, like, man, like you the closest thing we

1543
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: have to him, like we need you, like these kids

1544
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: need you. You know what I'm saying. So it's like I

1545
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: just took on that role, and of course it's a

1546
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: part of me is gone forever. And I feel like,

1547
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: no matter what I do or how much success I get,

1548
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: I never really could enjoy it for real because I

1549
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: always wanted to share it with me. Yeah, here, you

1550
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: feel what I'm saying. Like I was thinking about when

1551
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: I get thirty and forty, if I ever win a Grammy.

1552
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 2: Just certain shit, it's like it's not gonna really feel

1553
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 2: right because I wanted to enjoy it with him, and

1554
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: I always get them little thoughts and flashbacks in my

1555
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: head and stuff like that. But it turned me into

1556
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: a different person. Man, I fell into alcoholism crazy, Like

1557
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: I was down in the whole fifth a day, like

1558
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 2: by myself, literally every single day.

1559
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: Like I'm glad you pulled out of that.

1560
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was stretched out. I turned into a totally

1561
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: different person, like and I just hed I just had

1562
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 2: my second son, like I turned into like man, it

1563
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 2: was I don't know. I was just like a different person,

1564
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 2: Like I really felt like I couldn't be your father,

1565
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: Like the way I wanted to be Like I was

1566
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 2: so stretched out and so depressed. Was like I didn't

1567
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: want to be home because I didn't want my girl

1568
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: to see me that week, Like I was at my weakest,

1569
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: in my lowest, So I got to be outside and

1570
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 2: ride around, to go cry, go to clubs and just

1571
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: do stupid ass shit just to get my mind off

1572
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 2: of what was what I was really thinking about for real.

1573
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: But I definitely pulled out of it. And one of

1574
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 2: the conversations that helped me was a conversation with his grandma,

1575
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: and she told me the real She told me the

1576
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: ugly that I really didn't want to hear. She like

1577
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: she really looked at me and said, yeah, my grandson

1578
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: and died because of you. Everybody really know that he

1579
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: got killed because somebody wanted to hurt me, Like, oh yeah,

1580
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: this is her best friend, Like gonna do something to him, right,

1581
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: you feel me? And when she told me that she

1582
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: liked because she's seen me just slipping through the cracks

1583
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: getting drunk. Heard that she like, you better not fee

1584
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 2: your life up, Like all we got is you, Like

1585
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: you better make something of your life. I know how

1586
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 2: much he loved you, believe in you, like I don't. Okay,

1587
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 2: we hurting, you all hurting, but it's like you're not

1588
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: gonna let him that for nothing. You better be the

1589
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: best you could be and that shit really like, maybe

1590
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 2: snap out of it. Yeah.

1591
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 3: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

1592
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 3: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

1593
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 3: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

1594
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 3: simply go back to club profile and I'll see you there.