1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio, coming 3 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: in with some Salton's a swing there. Yeah, I like it. 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: This is the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt it's a Monday here. No, no, it's not, No, 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: it's not. The days are all running together for me. Now, 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: my kids have no clue. I mean it's summer for them. 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: They sleep till it's almost dark out. And who knows 9 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: what the difference is. And well they are teenagers now exactly. 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: That's how they a house at home and you know 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: with a vacation, they have no idea what time, and 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: they sleep. That's what they do. What they do, grow 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: and don't clean you up anything, No, not one day. 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: I speak from experience. Here is a little older mine, Matt. 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Uh We went through the defensive rankings on ESPN dot com. 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: There are a lot of Steelers represented, a lot of 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Steelers represented. Now let's move over to the offensive. Son, 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: Jeremy Fowlers put this list together. They've done everything except 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: for tight ends. Do they do aligneman? Maybe? Uh So, 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: I thought we'd start with quarterbacks today I like it 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: as well. Uh, And as we did earlier earlier in 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the week, we'll start at the bottom and work our 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: way up. So we'll start with the guys who others 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: receiving votes. Now, this is a pole fifty gms, run office, executive, 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: coaches and players, players involved, as players involved as well. 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks also receiving votes to be in the top ten. Ten. Yeah, 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, I'm cool with that still. Derek Carr. I 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: did a list and he was eleven or twelve, and 29 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: that might have been a little generous, but Okay, Ben Roethlisberger, 30 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: I think if Ryan's gonna be there, I'm fine with 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: been there too. You know, at the stage of their career, 32 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a lifetime achievement award. Probably. Well, 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: here's what one NFC scouts said. He's not what he 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: once was, but he can still be elite in Spurts. 35 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: He made a few throws in that Colts game last 36 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: year that were high level. He can still do it. Yeah, 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: people forget about that. Yeah, you know like that. That's 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: to me the big misnomer and you and a lot 39 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: of national guys fall into this trap too, that he 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have the arm anymore. The elbow shot, turn on 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: the second half of the Colts game, turn on the 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: second half of the Browns playoff game, when he had 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: to throw the football down the field right and everybody 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: knew it, and everybody knew it, and he made a lot. 45 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: He made several high level throws in those games that 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: it looked like you were watching Ben Roethlisberger's circuit two 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen. Arms strength doesn't work. Not the problem. It's 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: not the problem or the question at this point, it 49 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: was it might wane. There were some accuracy issues last year. 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: Day of the football and um, not necessarily willingness, but 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, extending plays and you know, is that a 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: function of coaching or player? You know, you've got to 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: attack more of the field. But that's a different conversation. 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: We've had a lot. I think Ben still is an 55 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: honorable mention, and they were they were different kind of 56 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: throws in those games too, you know, deep ends, um, 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, things of that nature. That he was driving 58 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. I still think he can 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, And the little we've seen in you know, 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: Presea or many camps and stuff. I mean, the balls 61 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: comeing out of his hands nice. I think he's coming 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: out of his hands better than it was last year 63 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: at this time, and you got to think that that 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: elbow had to be I mean, he could brush it 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: off and not talk about it much, but I'm sure 66 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: it was, you know, hard to deal with. What we 67 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: missed last year was the opportunity to go up to 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Ben privately in the locker room say you know, you're 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: give him some examples and say, okay, here's here's what 70 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm seeing. Is this is this a problem? Is it 71 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: or is this something that you're dealing with here? Couldn't 72 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: do it last year. I still haven't been able to 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: do it. That's that's what I want to do. I want, 74 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, just to have a candid conversation with the guy. 75 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: And highlight tapes can lie. But if you put together 76 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: his fifty most difficult throws of two thousand twenty, you 77 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't say he's the same old bend, but you'd be like, 78 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't see any problems. There's more than three examples 79 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: against the Colts and Browns. I mean throughout the season 80 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: when he had to it wasn't like the ball fell 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: short or you know, died, you know, I mean it's 82 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: still three three touchdown passes. Last. You don't do that 83 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: by accident without a running game, without a running game. Uh, 84 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill on that list, I think that's the neighborhood 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: he belongs in. I mean Carverse Tannehill. I think the conversation, 86 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Burrow ascending Kirk Cousins. Yeah, he's he's 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: also in the car Tannehill neighborhood, Baker Mayfield. It's a 88 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: little rich, but okay, he's saying he finished season strong. 89 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz he should not have gone to vote. I mean, 90 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: he had like the worst season and he got edged. 91 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get I mean, I'll say this 92 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: about cars. Him wins the game he played against the 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: Steelers here, he made three or four again high level throws. 94 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: His highlight tape wouldn't look bad either, but the low 95 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: lights are justcious, right. And some of it was is 96 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: because of a situation. I mean, that offensive line has 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: been disheveled, to say the least, with injuries for two 98 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: years now, and you know he had to put teams 99 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: on his back. And but boy, I mean he took 100 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: a ton of sacks and had a lot of turnovers 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: and he got benched. I mean no one else has. 102 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Let's got benched. Yeah, that's kind of a big deal, 103 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: have a big deal. And then and then and right, yeah, 104 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: he got benched. Uh So, number ten on the list 105 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray. Highest ranking, eighth, lowest ranking, unranked. Last 106 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: year he was honorable mention. He's twenty three years old. 107 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: What he needs to do, though, is they need to 108 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: expand that offense, and maybe, you know, offseason shows they'll 109 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: probably go to more for wide that we thought Kings 110 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: varys a ton of and he did early in his career, 111 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: but too many horizontal throws. He doesn't make a lot 112 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: of over deep middle throws things like that. And he's 113 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: thinking he had fourteen completions of forty or more yards 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: last year that led the NFL. Yeah, it doesn't surprise 115 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: me because because you start biting on all the underneath 116 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: star and the horizontal left right, and he's a very 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: good deep passer, you know, but I think he used 118 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: more of that. Uh Number nine, highest ranking, six, lowest 119 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: ranking unranked. Last year he was unranked. He's twenty three. 120 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, is that a little too rich at this 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: point for this hit? That too? I mean, he probably 122 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: this point in his career should have been in that 123 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: others receiving votes right, and more so than other positions. Well, 124 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: I guess offensive line too. I want to see a 125 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: pretty big body of work. I mean, what do you have? 126 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: Fourteen starts and I'm gonna say he's the ninth best 127 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: quarterback in football. I mean, he's as talented as anybody. 128 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: He was as good a rookie year as you'll see. Um, 129 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: this could be a little Baker Mayfield ish though that 130 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: a little. He gets that they're putting the cart before 131 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: the horse a little bit. Now. Now teams have had 132 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: the entire offseason to study him. You know, Okay, here's 133 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: what he can't do. Let's make him do this. Let's 134 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: make him do that, and see if he can make 135 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: that throw. One of the analytics that speaks really well 136 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: to him is he really did well went under pressure, 137 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: which at Oregon I didn't really see a lot of that, 138 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: and and maybe just being coach different get it out, 139 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, like he didn't seem like a stand in there. 140 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: There's that guy. In college, they were behind a lot too, 141 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: and so you're defended differently when you're behind constantly, they're 142 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: gonna give you a lot more than they would give 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: you in normal situations. I don't know their two thousand 144 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: twenties schedule handy either, But you mentioned teams having the 145 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: offseason to check them. I think he played the Patriots 146 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: and maybe Miami and maybe even Detroit. And where I'm 147 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: going with this is belichick disciple defenses. I mean that 148 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: he had three or four games last year where he 149 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: was swimming like a rookie, and he's just see a 150 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: lot of whatever they did going forward, and they'll probably 151 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: overcome it. I mean, he understands that too. But not 152 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: every game was Roses. No, it was not uh number eight, 153 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: highest ranking, five, lowest ranking, unranked. He was number six 154 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: last year. He's twenty four. Lamar Jackson. It's hard to 155 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: imagine he's unranked. I mean, he's a nightmare to play against. 156 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: But I guess there's some old school executives saying that's 157 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: that's not the style quarterback I want. Here's what an 158 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: NFL a veteran NFL offensive players said about him. People 159 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: were figuring him out a little bit. Those guys on 160 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: the list in two minutes drill, they can do it. 161 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's there yet the running is great, 162 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: but when you have to play from behind and throw, 163 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: that can be very tough. Agree with all that. That's 164 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: a fair, you know, fair assessment of some of that 165 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: isn't his fault. I mean, their wide receiver play has 166 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: been as bad as the league, and Greg Roman gets 167 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: a lot of credit as boy look how he's got 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: out of Lamar and Kaepernick. But like they're passing game 169 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: in route concepts are very rudimentary. And maybe that's because 170 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Lamark can't handle it and Kaepernick could handle it. But 171 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: I bet it's more of a Roman thing. Here's what 172 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: in another NFL quarterback set about him. He can become 173 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: a better passer if they put more on him to 174 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: do so, there you go. But if they continue to 175 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: build a fence around him, that's an RPO gimmick type stuff. 176 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: Only utilizing his running skills. I think they will never 177 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: score enough to make a deep run. That's fair. I 178 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: don't I don't disagree with that. You know that stuff works, 179 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: you know when you're playing bad teams, when you're playing 180 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals, when you're and we know that all of 181 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: a sudden you get into a game against the Chiefs, 182 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: or you know, We saw it last year against the 183 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: Steelers when they played him Buffalo. Now, Buffalo teams that 184 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: don't fall behind you, you know, you they get up 185 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: on you, that the defense is good, and all of 186 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: a sudden you're into a dog fight and he can't 187 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: make the throws that you need to make to be 188 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: able to win those games. I think I would phrase 189 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: that the offense can't make those throws. The offense can't 190 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: make the play, can't make the plays. You know, Like 191 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: I was a football outsider's book came out and you know, 192 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: I forget what the numbers were, but such a low 193 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: percentage of throwing outside the numbers. Yeah, it's kind of 194 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: like the Steelers, like if you're only gonna throw the 195 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: first ten yards of the line of scrimmage, after ten games, 196 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: everyone figures it and you're not gonna throw anything outside 197 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: the numbers. Everything is in the middle of the field 198 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: in a single coverage, everything in the middle, on the 199 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: outside and flood the middle of the field. So in 200 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: that regard, yeah, they're getting figured out. And some of 201 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: that is their receivers for because they don't have good 202 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: guys outside the numbers that can win on a consistent basis. 203 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: Which you know kind of you know, that was more 204 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: what they got Marquis Brown to do win outside the numbers, 205 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: and he just hasn't pretty good at the end of 206 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: the year. And I do think he has valued just 207 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: because it's hard to crowd the box with that guy 208 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: on the field too. I mean, he's a waddle like type, 209 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, deep threat guy, but he can't be your 210 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: primary sipt though. He has to be the you know, 211 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: a part time, you know, a specialty guy. Number seven 212 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: on the list, but Lamar used to be in the 213 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: top ten. Mean, he was the MVP a year ago. 214 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: That I mean, he's he's been pretty good. Number seven. 215 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: His highest ranking is seven. His lowest ranking was fourteen. 216 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: Last year's ranking was number nine. He's twenty seven years old. 217 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott coming off an injury, I wouldn't I thought 218 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: he was awesome before the injury. I bet I would 219 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: take him over a couple of names ahead of him. 220 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: But he's what seven on the list, it's pretty strong, Yeah, 221 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think he's a star. Uh number six 222 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: on this list. Highest ranking was number four, lowest was thirteen. 223 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Last year he was number ten. Thirty three years old. 224 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. I'm a little surprised. I always feel like 225 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm higher on Stafford than consensus, and he's like eight 226 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: or nine ish for me. I mean, I think there 227 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: is something that it made an awful situation. But he's 228 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: never taking his team really anywhere. I never want a 229 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: playoff game, never want a playoff game. I mean, I 230 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: think he's in for a huge year and might warrant 231 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: this ranking that from now you know if they well 232 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: that's how they're judging. This is where you know where 233 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: they're at going into this season. Um something really excited 234 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: to see what he will do in that offense and 235 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: you schemed up. But is he a better quarterback than 236 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Lamar or Doc right now? Know if he's gonna you know, 237 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: start the season or be ready to start the season. Yeah, 238 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean there's that issue. Number five on the list. 239 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: His highest ranking was two. His lowest ranking is nine. 240 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: Twenty five years old. Last year he was unranked. Josh Allen, 241 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: I think he's the most I think he's more talented 242 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: than my Homes. I mean just physicality, the throws he 243 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: makes remarkable. He's kind of a cross between Mahomes and 244 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson because he could beat your running too, and 245 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: not not only you know, where Jackson runs around you, 246 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: this guy runs over you. And I would imagine if 247 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm the owner of the Ravens or the Bills, when 248 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: I give this guy the big contract, I'm gonna say, 249 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: let's cut down on the running a little. But Lamar 250 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: needs it more than he does, you know what I mean. Um, 251 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: what's remarkable about him is you know our opinions were 252 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: similar on him too. Is I didn't love him coming 253 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: out of school. I thought he was holding the Bills 254 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: back early on. But you look at his completion percentage 255 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: every year, it's gone up by like five or six percent. Yea. 256 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: And it's not like because he's there dinking and duncan 257 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: all the time. He drives a ball down the field. 258 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: But again, it goes back to the receivers. They went 259 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: and get them stuff on Diggs last year. That helps 260 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: a lot. It brings and yeah, that brings me back 261 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: to Lamar, like Kyler they go get him to Andre Hopkins, Yeah, Alan, 262 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: they go get them Diggs. You know, like, what if 263 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: those one of those guys was a Raven. Yeah, well, 264 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's no coincidence that, you know, the Ravens 265 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: had John Brown and let him go like you know, 266 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: he didn't help him, Are there? No, you didn't help him, 267 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: are there? But he's no. Of course he's not Diggs 268 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: or Hopkins or somebody like that, but he's better than 269 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: anything to happen. He was still one of the best guys. 270 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: I've got right, number four, highest ranking, number two, lowest ranking, 271 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 1: number nine, thirty two years old. Last year he was 272 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: number two. That's Russell Wilson. He finished the season very poorly. 273 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: They I mean week ten. He's leader in the clubhouse 274 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: for m v P. But like we've had conversations with 275 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: some of these other guys, after that point, every defense 276 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: played too high safety. Don't let DK and lock it 277 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: beat you over the top, make him check down and 278 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: be patient in the pocket. And he didn't have Everett 279 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: and Eskridge and some of these. Carson was heard a 280 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: lot line wasn't great. He didn't leave a very good 281 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: taste in my mouth. But there would be a point 282 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: I would have put him second or third, maybe even one. 283 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: I thought I thought him homes were him one and 284 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: one at one point last year. Um, he just goes 285 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: to show you what the lack of a running game 286 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: can do to a quarterback, the threat of a running 287 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they just Carlos hides. Okay, but but you know, Carson, 288 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, missed so much time that we really saw 289 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: Wilson kind of struggle. No, he's got to step it 290 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: back up. Number three, highest ranking one, lowest ranking six, 291 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: last year's ranking, number seven. He's forty three years old. 292 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, that's too high. I think that's not who 293 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: he is. I mean, I get the off the field leadership, 294 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: and he just won the Super Bowl, and he's remarkable. 295 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's blasphemous to say that Tom Brady's overrated. 296 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: I'd rather play against Tom Brady than Josh Allen. You know, 297 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes or yeah, is gonna be ahead of him. 298 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: But I know this, this is a little harsh on Brady. 299 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: But let's just picture that the Super Bowl. Mahomes got 300 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: to play with the Bucks and Brady got to play 301 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. Brady would have been sacked the hundred times. 302 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Brady would have been dead, and they would have buried 303 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: him into turf and midfield. My Homes is vertical to 304 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: the the turf, throwing balls and scrambling half injured, and 305 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: that's a little unfair to Tom. But when things don't 306 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,119 Speaker 1: go well, he's done. We talked about this last offseason 307 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: when they made the move to go get Brady, and 308 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: even before that, like Tampa Bay, all they needed to 309 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: go do they were good is get a quarterback who 310 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: doesn't turn the ball over forty times, right right right, 311 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: And they were gonna be a content and they were 312 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a contender. Well they went and got Tom 313 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: Brady and he's obviously not going to turn the ball 314 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: over forty times, and he has something to do with this. 315 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: But that supporting cast as good as there isn't legal. Yeah, 316 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean they have a great defense, a great line, 317 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Christoph Worfs gets out of the mix, fantastic babies, your three, 318 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, Gronks or four. I mean that's pretty good. 319 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: And again I'm not killing Brady. What he did was 320 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: remarkable last year and he has the best resume of 321 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: them all. But it's in a Lifetime Achievement Award and 322 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: if you put him in other situations, it wouldn't look 323 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: at the Patriots two years ago, he wasn't. I mean 324 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: he shouldn't. What Tom Brady had signed with the San 325 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners last year instead of the Buccaneers this list. 326 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: If if he was lucky, he'd be eighth on this list, 327 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: let alone if he was a Jet or yea, you know, 328 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: I number two, highest ranking number one, lowest ranking number four. 329 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: Last year he was third thirty seven. Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, 330 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: I mean the top two are pretty obvious to me, 331 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: and I would draw a line after the top two. 332 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean obviously my Homes is one. Um, I think 333 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: the conversation is who's three. Yeah, it's not Brady, it's 334 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: not Brady. I mean again, I'll respect to Brady, he's awesome, 335 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: but second reactions aren't there, and the league is all 336 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: about that. Now, I can understand why he's not mentioned. 337 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: But DeShawn Watson might be three. Yeah, I mean he's 338 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: not even on this list. He still exists, He's still 339 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: a human beings, still a quarterback. I mean he would 340 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: he would be in my top five. Yeah, I agree. 341 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: And my homes of course is one lowest ranking number 342 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: three from Mahomes. I don't look at that. Maybe Brady 343 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: and Rodgers for the old Yeah, maybe the guy who 344 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: ranked bradyevent year old GM Trady number one. Come on? Yeah, 345 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: and this isn't come on. Last example here, imagine the 346 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson and Brady switching teams last year. Brady on 347 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: like that Houston team or in Deshaun and Tampa. I 348 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: mean they're not. I think watching it's a much better 349 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: player than Brady player. I mean, I'm not talking about 350 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: what's going on off the field. All right, let's go 351 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: ahead and take a look at the running back position. Um, 352 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: we did this today on our podcast. I talked about 353 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: the running backs and receiver list. This running back list, 354 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: it's a little hard to come up with huge names 355 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: if you're not including rookies, and the turnover is going 356 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: to be remarkable. Yeah, there's only four guys who got 357 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: honorable mention votes. Yeah right, I think it was hard 358 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: to come up with names. Jonathan Taylor, Kareem Hunt, Clyde 359 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire, Miles Sanders, and I think Edwards Hilaire could 360 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: get there. But by no means to see a top 361 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: ten player in this position yet, right, you know what 362 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean? Uh, Number ten is Josh Jacobs. I was 363 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: kind of happy to see that. I always feel like 364 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: he's been a little misused in never throwing him the 365 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: football because he was a pretty decent receiver Bama, and 366 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: I just kind of blame Gruden for that. I mean, 367 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: like Jalen Richard's a better receiver, But isn't it better 368 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: to have the bell Nazi every down mixing type big 369 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: back in one third and eight? You know? So I 370 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: think he's a good player. Number nine shiahst ranking was four. 371 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: Lowest ranking U ranked. Last year's ranking was eight. Joe Mixon. Yeah, 372 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm a supporter, but yards per carry's bad, you know. 373 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, injuries have been an issue, but talent is remarkable. 374 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: I think this is a real make or break year 375 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: for him. But he's gonna be a lot of my 376 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: fantasy teams. Uh. Number eight. Last year's highest ranking was four. 377 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: Lowest ranking thirteen. Last year he got he was an 378 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: honorable mention guy. Aaron Jones. Yeah, he's on every down guy. 379 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Dylan's gonna have a role. I'm glad that 380 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: people realize that these Kamara esque backs have a lot 381 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: of value, even if they're not every down players. Number 382 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: seven highest ranking one, lowest ranking twelve. Last year he 383 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: was third. Ezekiel Elliott, who's in the hell? Is ranking 384 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: him number one based on last last year? Right I 385 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: said today on this on my podcast, I mean, very 386 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: pivotal year for him, and my co host point this out. 387 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: I didn't realize he's only what I thought he was 388 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven, you know. I thought it was the beginning 389 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: of the end, and it might be. I mean, his 390 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: film last year was the beginning of the end. But 391 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: all their offensive line was hurt. Every in the world 392 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: was keying on him outside of Dac. But he's had 393 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: a lot of wear and tearing pre Deck, though he 394 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: wasn't tearing it up now he's pretty declined even like that. 395 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: I read the quote on their they should give some 396 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: of dacks money to Zeke. No, Zeke should gives something 397 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: money to Dack. I mean, at this point, Doc in 398 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: the passing game is what drives that team, and he's 399 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: gonna benefit for them. Three great receivers and you know 400 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: the people around him. Pivotal year for him. Though number six, 401 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: his highest ranking was one, his lowest was twelve. Last 402 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: year's ranking, he was number one overall. It's twenty four 403 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: years old. Sea Kwon Barkley. I'm worried about him just 404 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: from the injury news. The most talented guy in that list, 405 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 1: in my opinion, but there's a couple of things they 406 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: are a little worrisome with him. Is he's always been 407 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: the most talented guy in the field, and you get 408 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: away with that at Penn State, where like running back 409 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: coaches don't show se kwon tape to their players and 410 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: say do it this way because he bounces things that 411 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: he shouldn't and he's never really learned the true nuances 412 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: of the position. And that also goes for protection. I 413 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: don't know the human being, but if you've been the 414 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: league three or four years and you're as physically strong 415 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: and big and is gifted as him, and you're still 416 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: a liability, and protection makes me think you're not doing 417 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: the little things, means you don't want to do right. 418 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it's I mean, I'm reading between the lines 419 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: and he hasn't had to. But with all these injuries, 420 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: if he loses ten percent of those gifts, he's gonna 421 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: have to frank gored out a little bit more and 422 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: change his style and he's still not healthy. Number five 423 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: highest ranking one lowest ranking eleven five years old. Last 424 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: year he was number two. It's Christian McCaffrey. That's too low. Yeah, 425 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: who ranked him eleventh right on what planned is he 426 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: at the eleventh best back in the least exactly? I 427 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: mean even that what we saw of him last year, 428 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: he was awesome. It wasn't a lot, but it's not like, boy, 429 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: he's falling off a cliff. Number four, highest ranking, two, 430 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: lowest ranking eighth. Last year he was seventh. He's twenty five. 431 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Yeah, I got no problem with that. He's 432 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: a great runner. Yeah, great runner. We talked about this 433 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: off the year too, that I mentioned the Football Outsider stuff. 434 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: You know, they kind of implied in their Brown section 435 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: maybe that brown Zo lines a little over Ray did 436 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: not that it's bad. They got two backs on this list, 437 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: and it goes back to having the back making the 438 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: running game. They have two backs that do a lot 439 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: on their own, and it's back to the nauseo line conversation, 440 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: you know, like having a good back sure helps. Number three, 441 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: highest ranking, one, lowest ranking seventh. Last year he was six. 442 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: He's twenty five. Dalvin Cook really good player. Yeah, he's 443 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: a perfect example of they're one of the best running 444 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: games in the league. Now. He's the first round pick 445 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: on the alignement, a third round pick on the alignment 446 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: had a bad old line got rid of got rid 447 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: of alignment. Yeah right, I mean that was their biggest 448 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: weakness on offense, and they still one of the best 449 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: running teams in the league. Does it all? Great player? 450 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: Number two, highest ranking number one, lowest ranking number eight. 451 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: Last year he was fourth. He's twenty five years old. 452 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: See a trend there, Alvin Kamara. Yeah, I can't argue it. 453 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I would take McCaffrey over Kamara 454 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: as all around guys. But what's funny is if you 455 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: bring up Kamara's stats, what's this He's played four years? 456 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: Does that sound right? He said? Here's his reception totals 457 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: over four years. One, you're like tons of touchdowns as 458 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: a runner and receiver passes the right. Yeah, I mean 459 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: he's another one. I think Breeze and the offense has 460 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: become more relying on Kamara than the other way around. 461 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: And I'm not even saying their lines overrated, but you know, 462 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: the Browns and Saints probably the best two offensive lines 463 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: in the league. The guys running the ball sort of 464 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: helped that cause. To number one, he's twenty seven years old, 465 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: the oldest guy in this list by far. Yeah. Highest 466 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: ranking one, lowest ranking six. He was fifth last year. 467 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: That's Derrick Henry. Do you start to worry about him 468 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: now at I mean, he's like the league rushing two 469 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: years in a row. That doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. 470 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: I mean, he's sort of Jim brownish in terms of 471 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: he's as big as the guys tackling. I'm faster than 472 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: all of them. There's some stat on there about him. 473 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: His yards after contact is like more yards than anybody 474 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: else's run in the whole league for two years or 475 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: something crazy like that. But he's a zero in the 476 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: passing game. I mean, occasionally he'll catch us a and 477 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: runs over three Jaguars on Thursday Night for a touchdown 478 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: or whatever. And he's not for everyone, but may If 479 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: anyone's the unicorn, it's him. He's pretty freaky. Since two 480 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen, including the playoffs, he's had seven carries. 481 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: That's a hundred and two more than the next closest back, 482 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: who's Ezekiel Elliott. He's twenty seven. Um, we just talked 483 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: about Elliott maybe starting to slow down a little bit 484 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: at twenty five. It's a major concern for me, Like 485 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm not drafting a fantasy I'm not drafting with fantasy 486 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: and if if he can't play to that level, they're 487 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: in big trouble. I mean, with all respect to Julio 488 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: and Round and all those guys, he's still the straw 489 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: that serves to drink. And that's how they're designed. You know. 490 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: The offensive line is a big physical one for him. 491 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: They don't have much behind him, you know, so it's fragile. Yeah. 492 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: My question is if we do this midway through the season, 493 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: where's Naja Harris fit onto this list? Top ten? Yeah, 494 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: there was two names I want to bring up to 495 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: is right, and it's a Neither was Swift, neither was Acres, 496 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. I'm not sure to put 497 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: Edwards Hilary either, just for that reason. Um Antonio Gibson 498 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: wasn't either, nor should he be, but he could be 499 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: next year. The name they missed, though, is Austin Ekeler. Yeah, 500 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: now we're on the list. Nowhere on the list. I mean, 501 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: he's a better player than several of the guys they mentioned, 502 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: and really I don't think he's that much different than Kamara. Yeah, 503 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't score as much. It's it's kind 504 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: of strange that. I mean, there were only four guys 505 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: in the honorable mention. Yeah, guys like Chris Carson didn't 506 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: make the list. He's been he's okay, you know right, 507 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's had a good couple of years. 508 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: But you know, if you had to win a game 509 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: right now, would you take Chris Carson or Clyde Edwards 510 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: Hilaire to to be your back? Seattle wouldn't make that 511 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: trade for this year. I mean, with all respect to 512 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders, who's really talented, he's been awfully inconsistent and 513 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: hard to count on too. You know, I'm intrigued by him, 514 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: but he wouldn't be That's just a name. That's just 515 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: a name on throwing out there. I'm sure there's some 516 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: other guys that I could think of. You know, um, 517 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: do you think a t n or Javante Williams will 518 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: be on that list in Thanksgiving? I don't know if 519 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: they're going to get the carries to to make that 520 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: kind of that That could be a mid season kind 521 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: of thing for them, unless James Robinson goes down or 522 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: you know that, but he's still get the I mean, 523 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: hide might step in, you know, like he's a certain 524 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: type of guy. Um, I think his ceiling as an 525 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: echol R type player. But those guys usually don't blossom overnight. Um. 526 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: You and I know I like Jante Williams a lot, 527 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: obviously from our pre draft conversations. But Melvin Gordon doesn't stink. Yeah, 528 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: he's not going away unless they unless right, right. But yeah, 529 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: popular to country to believe he's not terrible. No, I mean, 530 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: he has probably one more year with them and then 531 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: Williams be the guy. But that's an obstacle. Yeah, well, 532 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. I mean, you know best, you're sharing carrys. 533 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: That's the thing about Harris is that you know me, 534 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: Sharon Carriys without questions. There aren't many. I mean, I 535 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be here. You talked about workload with Henry, 536 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: Harris will be top five in the league. And touches 537 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: I would think so. Yeah, I would think so over Camara, 538 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: overact because he catches the ball right, you know, and 539 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: they're not going to be as hard as he carries 540 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: that Henry puts up because you're gonna have five of 541 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: those are gonna be catches where you're just you know, 542 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: running out of bounds or getting tackled by defensive back 543 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: instead instead of three linebackers in a defensive end. There's 544 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: not a lot of guys on that list that are 545 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: gonna be the same workload as Harris. I mean, if 546 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: if Elliot's right, he will be. He'll catch passes me. 547 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: There's a couple of them, but workload wise, Dalvin Cook 548 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: will be. Yeah, well we didn't get through all these, 549 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: but we gotta take a break. He's gonna do it 550 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: for this show. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for 551 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: Kellen Gursky here on safe keeping us on the air, 552 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. We thank you for listening to this 553 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.