Speaker 1: You're tuned into Heat Check with Tristal Quick on this
Speaker 1: episode of the Heat Check. This is a heavy one, folks.
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving has been suspended by.
Speaker 1: The Nets, and boy, oh boy, has shit hit.
Speaker 2: The fam Let's break it down into detail, Let's talk
Speaker 2: about what we think of the best next steps, and
Speaker 2: let's get into it, folks.
Speaker 1: God damn it. I did not want to do this.
Speaker 1: I did not want to record this. It's not funny.
Speaker 2: It's not fun to do, I would say shockingly. This
Speaker 2: is a controversial topic for a lot of people, but
Speaker 2: it is important and it deals with what might be
Speaker 2: the biggest NBA story, And it's since Michael Jordan probably
Speaker 2: retired unexpectedly in the middle of the night at the
Speaker 2: height of his career. Kyrie Irving suspended from the Nets.
Speaker 1: But it's not the suspension.
Speaker 2: It's kind of what the suspension is, which is maybe
Speaker 2: never playing basketball for the Nets again.
Speaker 1: Kyrie is thirty, same age.
Speaker 2: As Jordan was when he unexpectedly, unexpectedly retired to play baseball.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a bumpy ride.
Speaker 2: We need to buckle up because it's a lot, right,
Speaker 2: It's a lot. Ever since Kyrie tweeted out support for
Speaker 2: an Amazon film filled with pseudo history and anti Semitic messaging, and.
Speaker 1: It very much was anti semitic messaging.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who are like, well, if
Speaker 2: it's true, it can't be anti semitic.
Speaker 1: It's not true. There's been a growing chorus since then
Speaker 1: of a lot.
Speaker 2: Of angry voices being like, yo, do something like' just
Speaker 2: gonna let this happen.
Speaker 1: Just gonna let him say whatever he wants.
Speaker 2: And then they then the questions and then asking turned
Speaker 2: into demanding that Kyrie stepped in front of the podium
Speaker 2: after the Nets said he can't go in front of
Speaker 2: the public because we can't trust him, and they said,
Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna bring Kyrie.
Speaker 1: In front of the media, and this is your chance. Kyrie.
Speaker 1: This is where you apologize. This is where you.
Speaker 2: Say you didn't know what all of that meant. And
Speaker 2: when people say are you anti semitic?
Speaker 1: All you have to do it's very easy. All you
Speaker 1: have to do is just say no.
Speaker 2: And somehow the press conference went sideways.
Speaker 1: Sideways. Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: The longer that Kyrie went without the apology, the more
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nets were like, we gotta do something. So yeah,
Speaker 2: they took him aside. They're like, yo, we gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta just clean this up. But then this is what
Speaker 2: happened to go sideways. He said, you know, I love
Speaker 2: all everyone. I love everybody, but I cannot be anti
Speaker 2: Semitic if I know where I come from. I can't
Speaker 2: be anti Semitic if I know where I come from.
Speaker 2: And I am going to expose things that our world
Speaker 2: continues to put into darkness. Basically stating again we talked
Speaker 2: about this yesterday's episode or today's episode, whenever you're listening to.
Speaker 1: It, that he believed. Kyrie Irving believed that his people.
Speaker 2: Are were the original Jews, the original Semites. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna get into Kyrie Irving's head into why he believes
Speaker 2: that in the personal theology. Obviously the movie was a
Speaker 2: big part of that or a part of that. I'm
Speaker 2: here to break down why, which I didn't.
Speaker 1: Think I needed to do, but apparently I do need to.
Speaker 2: Do why Kyrie Irving and what he said was bad
Speaker 2: and why it's worse than people are saying it is so.
Speaker 2: In Instcrum, Kyrie made no disavowal of anti semitism, none,
Speaker 2: except for just I love everybody I love everybody, every race,
Speaker 2: every creativey, religion. And then more so, it also came
Speaker 2: off as a vague threat that he was going to
Speaker 2: continue to expose quote unquote expose the truth that the
Speaker 2: world was hiding from us all. And he was saying
Speaker 2: that on the heels of a movie that claimed that
Speaker 2: the Jews.
Speaker 1: We know are the fake Jews.
Speaker 2: So we don't exactly know what the full part of
Speaker 2: his truth is. But what we do know, given that
Speaker 2: his previous truth was filled with inaccuracies and racism, I
Speaker 2: would say his truth currently you could imagine or somehow
Speaker 2: surmise that it's still pretty problematic. Josaih after that little
Speaker 2: presser said fuck this, I've had enough. Okay, last night,
Speaker 2: the bomb dropped while I was on the air that
Speaker 2: the nets were suspending Kyrie Irving indefinitely but for a
Speaker 2: minimum of five games. Adam Silver had already created a
Speaker 2: statement saying that what Kyrie Irving was doing was reckless.
Speaker 2: He was disappointed in Kyrie that Kyrie hadn't issued an apology,
Speaker 2: or offered an unqualified apology, or denounced the violent, harmful
Speaker 2: content contained in the film. He chose to publicize It's
Speaker 2: not that hard Folks movie sucked.
Speaker 1: There was racist shit in there. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, That's all I wanted have taken. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm not an anti SEMITI.
Speaker 1: I do not. I do not think that Jews ran
Speaker 1: slave ships. Not fucking hard. It's not hard.
Speaker 2: Anyone could do that, anyone unless you don't want to, right,
Speaker 2: unless you don't want to. What a fucking clusterfuck this is?
Speaker 2: We got ourselves a little mild race war going on
Speaker 2: in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck saw that coming. This is the gist
Speaker 1: of the Net statement.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the quote in a second, but
Speaker 2: is basically, we do not trust him to be around
Speaker 2: our team.
Speaker 1: He is not fit for this job.
Speaker 2: We are of the view he is currently unfit to
Speaker 2: be associated with the Brooklyn Nets. How bad does it
Speaker 2: need to be in order for a team to say
Speaker 2: the guy that we pay thirty million dollars to that
Speaker 2: we felt at one point was part of the cornerstone
Speaker 2: of the foundation of our team.
Speaker 1: He's not fit to be around us. He can't even
Speaker 1: do our job. He can't even be around the team.
Speaker 2: We have decided that Kyrie will serve a suspension without
Speaker 2: pay until he satisfies a series of objective remedial measures. Remember,
Speaker 2: Kyrie did tell us that he knows the dictionary. I
Speaker 2: wonder if he knows objective remedial measures, because that is
Speaker 2: where the crux of the timeline is going to be.
Speaker 2: Do you satisfy the objective remedial measures. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's gonna. I don't think he's gonna because the objective
Speaker 2: remedial measures are Again, film was trash filled with trash racism.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was saying. I now understand
Speaker 2: that me stating that I believe that this movie was
Speaker 2: correct in any way was anti semitic. I apologize it
Speaker 2: was fucked up. I won't do it again. I don't
Speaker 2: believe it anymore. I see the air of my waist.
Speaker 2: Do you think Kyrie is gonna do that? When he
Speaker 2: says I have an army behind me. I'm gonna continue
Speaker 2: to stand in my truth. I'm gonna continue to say
Speaker 2: who I am unequivocally.
Speaker 1: I don't know. And life comes at you fast, right Like.
Speaker 2: Kyrie's just chilling in his pad one night, he's got
Speaker 2: an off night. He's smoking weed, probably probably got some
Speaker 2: polo Santo burning in the background, probably some pillows on
Speaker 2: the floor, him and his girl wife baby kicking it,
Speaker 2: just watching some cinema anti Semitic film, you know, just like, look, look,
Speaker 2: we are the chosen ones. Let me put that out
Speaker 2: to my six million followers and now boom, just like that,
Speaker 2: You're the Kanye West of the fucking sports world, the
Speaker 2: centerpiece of a mild online race war between hoteps and
Speaker 2: non hoteps.
Speaker 1: Too bad Nike already dropped.
Speaker 2: Him, or they'd be exactly the same. Let me repeat
Speaker 2: this for the folks in the back. Kyrie Irving is healthy,
Speaker 2: available and able to play for a team where he
Speaker 2: was not able to play for that team a year
Speaker 2: ago due to COVID restrictions, and he is not playing basketball, which,
Speaker 2: to be fair, sort of defines his entire career as
Speaker 2: a Brooklyn Net right walk about COVID restrictions, anti Semitism gates,
Speaker 2: and you know how I know that this has gone
Speaker 2: sideways so fucking fast. We've got the Jewish Anti Defamation League,
Speaker 2: which Kyrie donated five hundred thousand dollars to, made a
Speaker 2: huge point promoting the fact that he and the Nets
Speaker 2: were both giving them money, and after his scrum, which,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, did not go how anyone wanted it
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: The Anti Defamation League was.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, see what had happened was we thought you
Speaker 3: were sorry, and then we saw your crazy ass presser
Speaker 3: and we realize, now we don't.
Speaker 1: Think you're actually sorry. So we're good on your money.
Speaker 1: You can have it back.
Speaker 2: Do you know how hard it is for any nonprofit
Speaker 2: to give money back?
Speaker 1: Do you know how rare that is? Like, oh yeah, no,
Speaker 1: We're gonna not gonna even take your money. It's dirty nuts.
Speaker 1: This is what they said.
Speaker 2: Because of Kyrie's post in his previous refusals to walk
Speaker 2: it back, the anti Semitic film and book is now
Speaker 2: a bestseller in multiple categories on Amazon. There's a lot
Speaker 2: more to undo to undo this damage. Although we will
Speaker 2: not accept any funds from him, if Kyrie is open
Speaker 2: to direct dialogue to repair the harm that he has
Speaker 2: caused and to engage in a process of healing and
Speaker 2: learning in a sincere manner, there we go Oxford Dictionary,
Speaker 2: sincere manner ad L is open to engaging with him.
Speaker 2: Time and action will tell That tells you everything. And
Speaker 2: yet people are like, Trista, tell me why that was dangerous.
Speaker 1: What Kyrie Irving did? Tell me what harm he did?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe promoting a fucking racist book until it becomes a
Speaker 2: fucking bestseller so that it can be more widely distributed
Speaker 2: and respectively effectively spread its bullshit, lies and hate like
Speaker 2: a poison across a wide swath of probably people who
Speaker 2: are quite malleable.
Speaker 1: In their mind. I don't know. Maybe that's harmful when
Speaker 1: you're talking.
Speaker 2: About having an army and spreading lies to set army.
Speaker 1: Armies don't do nothing. Armies mobilize and fight. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: in a very tense time racially in our nations country. Awesome, awesome, shit.
Speaker 1: How is the movie racist? You might be asking, how
Speaker 1: is it anti semitic? Trista, I don't have time to
Speaker 1: watch that movie. Tell me why it's racist.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's do that. Let's get into that because I'm
Speaker 2: getting that question a ton. Let's quickly recap one. It
Speaker 2: claims Jews are were responsible for the slave trade. If
Speaker 2: you don't see why that might be racist, evaluate that
Speaker 2: it declares Jews our impostors and that blacks are the
Speaker 2: real Jews and God's chosen people. Says Jews rule every
Speaker 2: industry in the world, control every facet of society and
Speaker 2: dominate the media, helping Satan deceive the world. Claims that
Speaker 2: racism towards black folks started with Jews and the anti
Speaker 2: black racism began in Jewish texts, saying Judaism teaches that
Speaker 2: blacks are cursed, proclaims many high ranking Jews worship Satan,
Speaker 2: and uses demonstrably false documents like the Protocols of the
Speaker 2: Elders of Zions, which was debunked like a hundred years ago,
Speaker 2: and fake quotes from Hitler.
Speaker 1: Wow. So yeah, As he got.
Speaker 2: Suspended and the Anti Defamation League comes out, he decided
Speaker 2: I should probably.
Speaker 1: Put out another statement.
Speaker 2: I need to figure out a way to dig out
Speaker 2: of this hole. Did he dig out of the hole, though,
Speaker 2: We'll have to see so after last night, this is
Speaker 2: what he said while doing research on Yahweh, I posted
Speaker 2: a documentary that contained some anti some false some is
Speaker 2: giving work here, it's doing some work, some false anti
Speaker 2: Semitic statements, narratives and language that were untrue and offensive.
Speaker 1: To Jewish race and religion.
Speaker 2: I take full responsibility for my actions, and I want
Speaker 2: to clarify any confusion on where I stand fighting against
Speaker 2: anti Semitism by apologizing for posting a documentary without context
Speaker 2: and a factual explanation outlining the specific beliefs in the
Speaker 2: documentary I agreed with.
Speaker 1: And disagreed with.
Speaker 2: WHOA I am a seeker of truth and knowledge and
Speaker 2: I know who I am? So okay, the documentary without
Speaker 2: context and a factual explanation outlining what I.
Speaker 1: Agreed with and disagreed with.
Speaker 2: Yo, you can't be agreeing with a film that says
Speaker 2: that Jews checks notes were responsible for the slave trade
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: This is okay? Oh my god, let me just say this.
Speaker 2: This documentary that's a very loose word, is like the
Speaker 2: greatest hits of anti Semitism. This is like, this is
Speaker 2: like the Bangers. If you want all of the anti
Speaker 2: Semitic club hits, this is it right here, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like we fell in love in a
Speaker 2: lonely place like it's in there. You know.
Speaker 1: There is nothing original or novel.
Speaker 2: In it concerning its historically inaccurate depiction of Jewish folks.
Speaker 2: It's lifted completely from Karl Lueger and Houston Stewart Chamberlain
Speaker 2: and the other originators of I don't know the founding
Speaker 2: fathers of anti Semitism through the nineteenth century, who in
Speaker 2: turned I don't know, were the muses of a guy
Speaker 2: named Adolph Hitler.
Speaker 1: Fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: And of course, if you are, I haven't taken us
Speaker 2: history yet because you're following me on TikTok. Hitler was
Speaker 2: who spewed this bullshit for a new generation of a
Speaker 2: little book called mindkof a book that spurred.
Speaker 1: A mass murder of a race.
Speaker 2: So this is what Hitler said from these from these
Speaker 2: little pieces that were in the movie, same sort of vibe,
Speaker 2: but he moved on and took it a step farther.
Speaker 2: He said, the cleanliness of Jewish people, moral and otherwise,
Speaker 2: I must say, is a point in itself. By their
Speaker 2: very exterior, you can tell that there were no lovers
Speaker 2: of water shade, and to your distress, you often knew
Speaker 2: it with your eyes closed yuck. Later, I often grew
Speaker 2: sick to my stomach from their smell. Added to this,
Speaker 2: there was an unclean dress and their generally un heroic appearance.
Speaker 2: All this could scarcely be called very attractive, but it
Speaker 2: became positively repulsive. In addition to their physical uncleanliness, you
Speaker 2: discovered the moral stains on this quote unquote chosen people.
Speaker 2: It's fucking gross dehumanization in theory and later in action.
Speaker 2: So to sort of recap, Hitler used the lies that
Speaker 2: we discussed a couple of minutes ago that were in
Speaker 2: the Kyrie film and then built on those lies to
Speaker 2: promote the idea that Jews were somehow dirty and gross
Speaker 2: subhuman and because of that being subhuman, you don't have
Speaker 2: to treat them as humans. You can do whatever you
Speaker 2: want to them. And it's okay, gas chambers, firing squads,
Speaker 2: all crazy experiments, all of it. So when this documentary
Speaker 2: quote unquote claims that high ranking Jews worshiped Satan, it's
Speaker 2: rehashing Nazism, which rehashed the nineteenth century anti Semitic thought.
Speaker 2: That is how this works anti Semitic thoughts. Turning to
Speaker 2: anti Semitic actions. Yugen Kogan, a Buckinwald survivor, wrote a
Speaker 2: book about his experience and the inner working of a
Speaker 2: concentration camp called The Theory and Practice of Hell, and
Speaker 2: he showed how inhuman theories were put into inhuman practice
Speaker 2: by inhuman people. And that is why what Kyrie did
Speaker 2: is got people up in arms. That's why it's egregious
Speaker 2: those inhuman theories. That was the same shit being passed
Speaker 2: off in this fucking documentary that Kyrie promoted to his
Speaker 2: six million followers, the same book and the same moved
Speaker 2: that is now a best seller on Amazon. The same
Speaker 2: bullshit pushed by Hitler, just wrapped in a different cloth
Speaker 2: to a different people, designed to hate the same people.
Speaker 1: Film me.
Speaker 2: And if you think Hitler felt like that about Jewish
Speaker 2: folks and didn't feel that way about other folks, you'd
Speaker 2: be incorrect. This film is constructed on the exact same foundations,
Speaker 2: the exact same set of lies and mistrewths that led
Speaker 2: to the single greatest crime in history of the world,
Speaker 2: the Holocaust. Let me say it again, these lies are
Speaker 2: what Hitler used to get people to buy into a
Speaker 2: theory the Jews were in human, and that in turn
Speaker 2: led to the systemic, planned killing of over six million
Speaker 2: Jews and ten million people in total.
Speaker 1: So trist to tell me why this is dangerous again.
Speaker 2: The foundation of the Holocaust was not racial theories based
Speaker 2: on older anti Semitic ideas, which were then taken from
Speaker 2: theory to action in excruciating detail over the period of
Speaker 2: twenty years. One famous historian once said that the Germans
Speaker 2: killed Jews in triplicate, which is a fancy way of
Speaker 2: saying they couldn't hide from their crimes because they documented everything.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you wonder why people are a little up in.
Speaker 2: Arms, a little sensitive about these comments about from Kyrie,
Speaker 2: A little sensitive about these comments.
Speaker 1: From Kanye. You think it's like a wonder people, especially
Speaker 1: Jewish people, might be a.
Speaker 2: Little a prickly. Oh, this a little triggered the Kyrie
Speaker 2: would not disavow this dangerous idea. They're like, Yo, what
Speaker 2: the hell is going on here? I am actually amazed
Speaker 2: more people aren't pissed, irate, absolutely sickened by this. And
Speaker 2: if Kyrie was actually a secret of truth and knowledge,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have had to do all this research for him.
Speaker 2: If he talked to historians who wrote about the Holocaust
Speaker 2: and anti Semitism, maybe he.
Speaker 1: Would see this too.
Speaker 2: Here's what I think happens, because that's what probably you
Speaker 2: care about, not this little little history lesson wrapped up
Speaker 2: in a comedy podcast about the NBA.
Speaker 1: Here's what I think happens.
Speaker 2: The nets say right now that they want more evidence
Speaker 2: that Kyrie has learned from his experience before they let
Speaker 2: him back with the team. They want honest action. If
Speaker 2: this team probably was six and two, maybe it would
Speaker 2: just be like less important for the honesty, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Now they're two and six and they
Speaker 2: were two and six with Kyrie. I think the Nets
Speaker 2: at this point know that this is a losing battle.
Speaker 1: It's a losing battle with the team.
Speaker 2: It's a losing battle with Kyrie, and there is no
Speaker 2: point in giving him any special allowances or grace. Let's
Speaker 2: be real, this is an unmitigated disaster. We now who
Speaker 2: know who is who are the chosen franchise for toxicity
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 1: And that is the Nets get it.
Speaker 2: Now that Kyrie is suspended, I wonder do they keep
Speaker 2: going with the emy Udoka thing because Ema was supposed
Speaker 2: to be the person that salvaged the situation.
Speaker 1: Kind of feels like maybe situation is.
Speaker 2: Not that salvagable, you know what I mean? And so
Speaker 2: if that's the case, do you want to bring on
Speaker 2: emay Udoka love emy wanted to get another shot, totally
Speaker 2: fine with him being the coach. I've already said this before.
Speaker 2: But if you're the Nets, You're like, uh, maybe we
Speaker 2: just want to like start again.
Speaker 1: The toxicity is in an all time high.
Speaker 2: In reality, they probably should have traded Kaya KD and
Speaker 2: probably should have figured out a way to get rid
Speaker 2: of Kyrie in the summer, and now you should probably
Speaker 2: trade everyone. You should release Kyrie because nobody's trading for him.
Speaker 2: You should trade Kadi, you should trade Ben Simmons for
Speaker 2: whatever you can get and rebuild the culture from the
Speaker 2: ground up because the way that the Brooklyn Nets are
Speaker 2: currently constructed, I think that they are borderline unfixable, and
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving just push them over the edge.
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