1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, there's Chuck. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: It's just us, neither Jerry nor Davis here, so it's 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: short Stuff, the bereft edition. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: That's right. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: I want to thank NPR, capture dot Com, a website 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 3: called ps Audio, a website called ever Present, and more 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 3: for the research that went into the eight track cassette 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: player or eight track cartridge itself. April eleventh is National 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 3: eight Track Tape Day, so we've missed that. But if 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: you don't know what an eight track is, it preceded 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 3: the cassette tape and we're gonna get into what this 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: thing was. 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you usually wedged in between LP record albums and 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: cassettes because that's basically where it really popped up in 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: the seventies is kind of where you really associate eight tracks. 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: But it was way older than that, apparently, as far 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: back as the forties it was essentially coming into development. 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, which surprised me. You might be wondering, like, 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: why did we need eight tracks at all? And it's 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: because at the time, dear listener, especially younger dear listener, 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: if you wanted to play the music that you wanted 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: to hear, you could play it on your record player 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: in your house. You didn't have a record player in 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: your car, you had a radio that played whatever the 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: heck they wanted. So all of a sudden, eight tracks 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: came along as a mobile version away to take the 27 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: music that you wanted on the road, either via your 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: car or via these awesome portable players, of which we had. 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: One of it was a Lloyd's. We had a deck 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: in our conversion van, of course, but we had just 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: look up the white Lloyd's eight portable player and that 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: was the very one. I found it online and I 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: might even get one on eBay. It brought back so 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: many nostalgic memories. 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: That's awesome, maning you totally should of One of my 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: friends in high school, Mitch, not dirty Mitch with skabies, 37 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: but the right different Mitch. 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: That sounds good. 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: His grandma had a huge white Lincoln Continental with an 40 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: eight track deck in it, and we got our hands 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: on a Saturday Night Fever soundtrack on eight track and 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: we just cruise around listen into that in that car. 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: It was pretty. 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: Boss, skipping forward two songs at a time. 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: Ish. Yeah, yes, yeah, that's something I can't wait to 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: talk about. But just when a little background on the 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: how this worked. It was built on ancient technology from 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: the twenties and thirties, which was magnetic film, which became 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: real the real film, and essentially is that is tape 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: that has magnetized metal particles on it, and when sound 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: is converted into an electrical impulse, the tape writer translates 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: that into well, it's an electromagnet. It translates it into 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: a magnetic pulse that arranges these pieces of magnetic metal 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: into ones and zeros, and then the whole thing is 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: done backwards on the on the other end when you 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: listen to it. This is the basis of not just 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: cassette tapes, but since eight tracks came first, this is 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: what they were built on over time. And there are 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: a few inventions that kind of were stepping stones that 60 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: led to the eight track. 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Germans were using it in World 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: War Two. The Allies got a hold of it, and 63 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: eventually it got to the music industry and they were like, hey, 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 3: we got a thing now that we can play this 65 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: stuff on the road. 66 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: We think in a continuous loop. 67 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: And the very first person to achieve the version that 68 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: could go to market was a guy named William Powell Lear, 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: the creator of the lear Jet. 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: Previous to this, there. 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: Were some sort of housing and internal guts things that 72 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: were worked out by various people. A guy named George 73 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: Eish in nineteen fifty three came up with the nab 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: cartridge or the fiddle fidilipak cartridge. It's also called a 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: cart if you ever heard of like on w CARI 76 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: Cincinnati or old radio stations, they had carts, music carts, 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: That's what that was. These were built for radio stations. 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: It was short for cartridge slang. I guess you'd call it. 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 80 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: So that was followed up by the Month's Stereo Pack 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: and it was created by Earl Madman Months, and he 82 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: directly influenced the development of the eight track because William 83 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Powell Lero is riding around in Madman Months's car when 84 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: he was playing one of the Stereo pack cartridges for him. 85 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: But the thing that really kind of separated Months from 86 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: everybody else, he's the first one to go directly to 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the record companies and say like, hey, let me license 88 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: your music and put them on this new format and 89 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: let's start getting it out there. And like I said, 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: William Powell Leer was like, this is a great idea. 91 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to build on this and create a longer 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: playing version of it, and I'm going to call it 93 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: the eight track. 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then vinta Jet. Yeah. 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: I should point out too quickly, and this can't be 96 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: a coincidence, but Earl Madman months was the. 97 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: Creator of that cart. 98 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: If you're a Coen Brothers fan and a fan of 99 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: the movie Barton Fink, you will know that John Goodman's 100 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: character name is Carl Madman munt oh really, and there's 101 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: no way that's a coincidence. No, I don't know the 102 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: correlation or if it was just they got they thought 103 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: it sounded cool or something. 104 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Who knows what a strange homage if it was. 105 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: Though, agreed, Should we take a break, Yes, all right, 106 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: we'll be right back with more on the bygone era 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: of the A track right. 108 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: After this. 109 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: And things job Job. So all of this was being 110 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: developed in the fifties, I think as early as the 111 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: forties technically, but the A Trek really came into its 112 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: own in the mid sixties. And the reason why is 113 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: because the Ford Motor Company said, Hey, everybody, have you 114 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: heard of these eight tracks? Well, we're going to start 115 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: putting eight track players in our nineteen sixty six model 116 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: cars as a high end option, and as more and 117 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: more cars started featuring eight track players, eight track cartridges 118 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: just became dominant as the form of how you listen 119 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: to music outside of your home in a way that 120 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: you controlled, unlike radio. 121 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, they were pretty cheap. There were two 122 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: to three bucks. 123 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: The most expensive on record was The Beatles' Greatest Hits, 124 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: released in nineteen seventy. That was almost five bucks, four 125 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: dollars and ninety seven cents, which would be nice price, Yeah, 126 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: the nice price. That'd be more than forty dollars today. 127 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: So that was you know, that was an expensive eight 128 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: track for sure. It hit its popularity in the mid seventies. 129 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: And I guess we should talk a little bit about how. 130 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: These things played. 131 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: You know, you've got the magnetic tape that you described 132 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: inside on a single, and there was a little motor 133 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: that pulled the tape across the audio head to make 134 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: it make the sound. But you're probably if you don't 135 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: know what these are, you're probably like, what is the 136 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: eight tracks? 137 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: What does that even mean? Each tape had eight tracks and. 138 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: A sensing strip that told a solooid coil like, hey, 139 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: a program is over, which was you know, roughly two 140 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: songs and now it's time to switch over to the 141 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: next track. 142 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: So when I said you could skip ahead. 143 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: Two songs at a time, if you hit the button, 144 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: it would it would pop forward the two songs roughly. 145 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: So weirdly, I want to say just one thing because 146 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't want us to get emails. I saw it 147 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: in one place that it actually had four tracks, but 148 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: there were two of each of the four tracks, so 149 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: they were in stereo. So two times four was eight. 150 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: I only saw that in one place. Everywhere else kind 151 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: of described it as eight different tracks like you just did. 152 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: But that idea out there, all right. 153 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, so this, this whole thing what differentiates it 154 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: from cassette is that it was it played continuously. It 155 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: was an endless loop, right, So I guess if you 156 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: pressed play, it would play the whole album over and 157 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: over again until you press stop. Is that correct? 158 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? And the point is you didn't have to flip it. 159 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: The downside of that as you couldn't rewind it or 160 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: fast forward it except for skipping two songs ahead. But 161 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: you couldn't go back two songs as far as I. 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: Know, Okay, so that was kind of one of the downsides. 163 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Another big downside is that these tracks were not like 164 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: they just took an album and they cut it up 165 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: into four equal amounts of time or eight equal amounts 166 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: of time, I should say, right, So if one track 167 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: could fit one in three quarters of a song, that 168 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: three quarters of a song would fade out, it would 169 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: be a click, and then when the next track started, 170 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: it would fade back in. And people hated that. 171 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: Of course they did. 172 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: That's very clunky, understandably so, but that level of clunkiness 173 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: really kind of gets across the just the kind of 174 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: attention to detail that was given to eight tracks. They 175 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: as far as technology goes, they were perfectly encompassed by 176 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: what they looked like, clunky, giant plastic key and just clunky. 177 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: I guess yeah. I mean it was interesting. 178 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: They deserved to be popular for a while because it 179 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: was such a revolution and to be able to listen 180 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: to what you wanted to outside of your home. But 181 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: the other limitations, you know, not rewinding stuff like that. 182 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: Apparently the internal components would fail a lot of times. 183 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: Like the cassette itself was very sturdy and long, lasting, 184 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: but the little motor and stuff that would fail your 185 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: car was famous for eating the tapes. They had a 186 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: lot of downsides, but that didn't outweigh up the initial 187 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: upside of being able to take your music on the road. 188 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: No, for sure. I mean that was a big deal. Like, 189 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: I never was like this eight track sucks when we 190 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: were listening to Seren night Fever. So I mean it 191 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: couldn't have been that bad. But I think for people 192 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: who are like really into music, it was probably very annoying. 193 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 194 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: Well, the irony is is that the cassette tape was 195 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: introduced in nineteen sixty five kind of. 196 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: Either just kind of squarely in the middle of. 197 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: Or just before eight tracks were at their zenith of popularity. 198 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: But they weren't marketed, like bands weren't releasing music on cassettes. 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: At first. 200 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: It was just like, hey, here's a cassette, and you 201 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: can record yourself at home and interview your parents about 202 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: what life was like in World War Two. 203 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, do your own story core at home. Yeah. Yeah. 204 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: So people were like, I can start taping songs off 205 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: the radio with these things, and essentially it just kind 206 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: of avalanche from there. Cassettes took over because you could 207 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: fast forward, you could rewind, and even though you had 208 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: to flip the cassette the worst thing that you could 209 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: possibly have to do in the world. They were way 210 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: cheaper than eight tracks too, just to produce and to purchase, 211 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: so cassettes pretty quickly took over. And interestingly, this is 212 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: also happening at the same time with video VHS tapes 213 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: were overtaking Beta max and laser disc at the same 214 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: time too. 215 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: What were you about to say, the worst thing you 216 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: would have to. 217 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: Do that was an addendum to having to flip a 218 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: cassette tape. 219 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I thought you were going to say, if 220 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: the tape unspooled some you would have to put a 221 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: pencil or use your pinky finger to rewind the tape 222 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: and draw that magnetic tape back into the cassette. 223 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: I always had to use a pinky because I never 224 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: had a pencil, because I wasn't a nerd. 225 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: Well, I had one in my front pocket, my breast pocket. 226 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: So that what else you got? Anything else? 227 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: Uh, just a couple of tidbits. It was a museum 228 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: for a little while. 229 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 3: There was an enthusiast named Bucks Burnett in Dallas Texas 230 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: that had a museum because he collected him, and it 231 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: seems like it was open for a handful of years. 232 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: The largest collector now is a guy named Gary Hetzman 233 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: who apparently has close to one hundred thousand tapes. He 234 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: may have more than that, because that was twenty nineteen. Yeah, 235 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: and the most there's actually a very valuable one Frank Sinatra, 236 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: So it's called Sinatra Joe Beam, Frank Sinatra and Antonio 237 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: Carlos Jobim, which I bet is a great record, Yeah, 238 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: because they did a limited pressing. Of course, it's scarcity 239 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 3: that makes something valuable, and they only did thirty five 240 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: hundred copies of that one. And if you have one 241 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: of those, you can get a few grand for it. 242 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: Apparently, why not, what are you gonna do? You're not 243 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna do anything to look at it, you might as 244 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: well sell it. 245 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, get one of those Lloyd's players and put that 246 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 3: strap over your shoulder and go go down the street 247 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: rocking it. 248 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: I found another player too that I would actually like. 249 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: It was made by Panasonic. It was called the Dynamite 250 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: Plunger Portable a track player, and the reason why is 251 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: because it had like a like the handle was like 252 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: on a rod coming off of it, and then it 253 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: had like a well the thing that you gripped, and 254 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: it looked like kind of a dynamite plunger is heat 255 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: came in yellow and all sorts of great colors. 256 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: I'm looking it up because I got to see what 257 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: you're talking about. 258 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: So, yeah, there was one for sale. 259 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, those are brad Man. Those are awesome. 260 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: If I got into eight tracks, I would definitely buy 261 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: one of those. But I'm not into eight tracks, so 262 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to. 263 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's no reason to Like, people are 264 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: into vinyl still because of fidelity is so great. There's 265 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: really no reason to buy eight tracks now unless you 266 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: just want a little walk down memory lane of a 267 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: sort of a creadier version of everything else. 268 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: All right, right, well, I guess since we started walking 269 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: out memory Lane, we just walked away from the short stuff, right. 270 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that means it's out. Stuff you should 271 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: know is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts my 272 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 273 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: you listen to your favorite shows.