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Speaker 3: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 3: on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. I'm Dale Lolly,

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Speaker 3: he is Dean Matt Williamson, and we are live from

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Speaker 3: Steelers training camp here at Saint Vincent College and the

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Speaker 3: Steelers just wrapping up practice number four today here and

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Speaker 3: the last unpadded practice. Yeah, yeah, acclamation for a while anyways,

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Speaker 3: right right, They're all acclimated now, all acclimated.

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Speaker 1: Then they get it, earned themselves a day off, and

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Speaker 1: then they'll come back hot and heavy. And speaking of hot,

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Speaker 1: it was a little warmer today too. Another good crowd

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Speaker 1: on the hill, good stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to get back here on Tuesday and

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Speaker 3: see what this is all going to look like when

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Speaker 3: they put the pads on and start hitting.

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Speaker 1: Next week. Shouldn't be really something because I mean, they

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Speaker 1: what five days in a row, pretty heavy. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: started to be the you know, the real camp stuff,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait for that. And so ESPN's Dan

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Speaker 3: Graziano was out here yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, and I think I NFL network people here today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there did some people here yesterday. His his thoughts

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Speaker 3: on on everything is happening here. Actually he's here on

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Speaker 3: the twenty fifth, which would have been three days ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he's like he made mention that, you know, I

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Speaker 3: was hoping to be here when the Steelers were getting

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Speaker 3: were getting physical because they're one of the few teams

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Speaker 3: that actually does still tackle to the ground at training camp.

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Speaker 1: Well, Dan, you should have come later then, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta know that, right, not gonna do it the

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Speaker 3: It's kind of the rules, in fact, he said, but

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh remains one of the very few, if not the only,

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Speaker 1: I know, it's it's funny. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: our listeners think of the Chuck No Old days and

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Speaker 1: times to change there's rules. You can't even do that

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to. And as mentioned thereby Gradiano, who

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Speaker 1: I mean there's something you said for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it does prepare the team for the

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Speaker 1: I also think it contributesdale to oh, all these you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right with that. That's a good

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Speaker 3: It's actually six six, six days in a row before

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Speaker 1: And some teams might be like, yeah, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: it was just what they call, you know, thoughting ear.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, no, you're you know, you're receiver

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's even more mental than physical,

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Speaker 3: And watching a lot of the players getting some extra

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Speaker 1: But isn't that interesting though, I mean a year ago

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the kind of stuff that goes on here.

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Speaker 3: You know that because again, you're you're here, You've got

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Speaker 1: They don't really have a home in Pittsburgh to go

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Speaker 1: but no, they're can probably hang with their buds and

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Speaker 1: probably talk football, but talk life too, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, you learn a lot about guys, not just

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Speaker 1: You know what makes them tick ketch up on some

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Speaker 3: For absolutely absolutely, But yeah, I find that very interesting, Matt.

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Speaker 3: The thirty third team has put out ranking the top

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Speaker 3: ten draft classes in NFL history. Wow, I wonder and

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Speaker 3: this is this is year by year in terms of

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Speaker 3: the not a team draft. This is the overall draft.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so the nineteen eighty three draft is better

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Speaker 3: Ye This isn't well, it's seventy four Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else could be that. So when you look at.

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Speaker 3: It, Cam Hayward's drafts really high should be up there.

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Speaker 1: Yeaheah.

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Speaker 3: The number ten group is the two thousand and seven

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Speaker 3: draft that included Calvin Johnson then thirty five Pro Bowl appearances.

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Speaker 1: What's amazing is number one is Marcus Russell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You would think the easiest pick at least could should

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Speaker 3: Guy, Well, you think about that two thousand and seven

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson I thought, of my

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Speaker 1: head were the real headliners. Joe Thomas, Vis Patrick Willis.

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Speaker 1: They're all Hall of famers. That's five Hall of famers

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And even with that, you look into some some

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Speaker 1: Think Lynch goes to the Hall. I think Yonder and

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Speaker 1: Staley will get some consideration. I bet Yonda ends up

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Speaker 1: Remember he was like a seventeen year old or eighteen

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Speaker 3: Number nine on the list is the nineteen sixty eight draft.

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Speaker 3: Cool as well, Okay, that that produced Larry Zonka. You're

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Speaker 3: also are looking at eight Hall of Famers in that class,

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Speaker 1: Eighth hall of Famers has to be closed. Pretty solid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean some of these classes we'll talk about it

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Speaker 3: So the two thousand and four draft, which included, of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty players from that two thousand and four draft

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Speaker 1: That top ten was pretty impressive at the time too,

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Speaker 1: got hired. Right after that, they the Browns the drafted Winslow,

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Speaker 3: Uh. The nineteen eighty nine draft class included this is

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Speaker 3: The nineteen sixty seven draft is number five. You're looking

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Speaker 3: That was Bob Greasy going fourth overall. Then you had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen ninety six draft number four on this list.

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Speaker 3: Number three is the nineteen fifty seven NFL Draft. They're

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Speaker 3: only twelve teams in fifty seven. Somehow the first round

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Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty four draft, his number two. You had six

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Speaker 1: Here, that's gotta be Alway Marino.

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Speaker 3: Seventy four draft was when the Steelers got oh five.

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Speaker 3: that nineteen seventy four NFL draft.

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Speaker 3: John Cappelletti, Randy gratis Shire was was in there. That

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Speaker 1: Rumored to be Capelletti and they went Franco Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, Dave Casper went to Oakland the pick before the

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Speaker 1: I mean Danny White's only crime and is you had

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 3: here at Saint Fencent College where the Steelers just wrapped

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Speaker 3: up practice number four here on at Chuck noll Field

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Speaker 3: And we are back here at Saint Fincent College in

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Speaker 1: Number four not too long ago.

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Speaker 3: Here some players still out on the field doing some

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Speaker 1: Stee has to do as well.

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Speaker 3: And uh, any any early takeaways from from what you've

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Speaker 1: So I see Russell Wilson like everyone else, but he's

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think these are good changes. I

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Speaker 3: so here's how it goes. So they'll they'll they will

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see the first time they get

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Speaker 3: headliner and it really is fun to watch and people

434
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 3: come check it out. I mean probably not real fun

435
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: to do. Some might like it, yeah, unless you're the offense.

436
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: Are you the defensive guy?

437
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: But when we talk about bigs on biggs, do you

438
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: think Potano is gonna get what like Burn's got a

439
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: b all the time?

440
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: To a certain degree, I mean, they don't ask want

441
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 3: to do a ton of those one on ones.

442
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: That sure seems like a Tomlin thing to do. Hey,

443
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: first round pick, you get the former defensive player of

444
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 1: the year rep one with everyone watching, I could see

445
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 1: that being something we headline or you know, talk about

446
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Yeah.

447
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And and you know, hey, Mason McCormick, here's mister.

448
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: Might as well.

449
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and see how that looks when he when he

450
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 3: you know, locks that arm and walks you back to

451
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: the quarterback.

452
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know these guys are now veterans, but

453
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 1: Porter vers Pickings are one on ones over and over too.

454
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean that could be a real Fraser versus Benton.

455
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: It's Fraser versus Benton. I mean people that maybe watched

456
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks that year that the Jets are on Sauce

457
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: and Garrett will Wilson were highlighted and they did battle

458
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: all the time. They would move the lines to that

459
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: those you know, the matchups to battle those two. Why

460
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: not do that with Pickens and Porter?

461
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 3: And that's something you know, when you look back at it.

462
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin did that with Roman Wilson.

463
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: It sounded a senior bowl. I was wondering, what go get?

464
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 3: You and Quinan Mitchell need to go against each other

465
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: every rep you can.

466
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, which is frankly a slap in the face

467
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: everybody else, because he's like, you guys are the best too,

468
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, but hey, that's you know what we're here

469
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: to do, see you guys against each other. Wilson's look good. Yeah, No,

470
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: he does some good stuff off there. Yep.

471
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: He has not certainly not looked at a place and

472
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: seems to have a nice feel for where to sit

473
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: down in the zones and those kind of things that

474
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 3: you know, Oftentimes it takes some younger players sometime to

475
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 3: maybe pick some of those things up, but he seems

476
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: to have pretty good grasp on it.

477
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say any of the rookies have disappointed, you know.

478
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's something that you're always excited

479
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: as an organization to actually get your hands on, make

480
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: them your own in camp and all those things. And

481
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: I always go back to my pit days, you know,

482
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: you hand out twenty five scholarships. Sometimes the kid shows

483
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: up and like why do we give him a scholarship,

484
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: or you know, heavier or doesn't take an as seriously

485
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: as you think. And hey, it's hard to judge Zach

486
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Frasier right now, you know, I mean the tackle again,

487
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: they don't have pads on, Yeah, I mean the tackle

488
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: at least you can see him past set a little

489
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: bit in space. Judging a center off these four is rough,

490
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, but it looks like they're all acclimating well.

491
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: And the last, speaking of that, the three of the

492
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: last guys on the field right now are Zach Fraser Spencery, Anderson,

493
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 3: and Isaac Saamalo out there all having a chat there

494
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 3: at to thirty five. Okay, so it's kind of trying

495
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 3: to soak some of that in from Isaac Samalo.

496
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: We mentioned earlier about Roder Jones becoming a leader. Well,

497
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: Isaac has been the leader since he's gone here, and

498
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, better on the block, super smart, you know,

499
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: really good guy by all acounts too.

500
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can see they're kind of talking about

501
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: some different nice you know, technique stuff and things of

502
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: that nature there that uh, you know, maybe maybe there's

503
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: just something that you know, either one of the two

504
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: young guys struggled with their and I bet they have questions,

505
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: you know, Anderson and Fraser working together on that second

506
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: unit right now with Mason McCormick on the other side

507
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: of them. Who knows two years from now that could

508
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: be to your line.

509
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, Yeah, they're actually going through

510
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: it with you know, Isaac doing you know, his past sets,

511
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: this is how I do it, et cetera.

512
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's talking about get your hands out there, locked

513
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: that guy out, don't let him do that, swim move

514
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 3: on you.

515
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: No, that's interesting I mean, obviously we can't hear them,

516
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: but you can almost figure out what that conversation is

517
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: about by the way that they're handling different things.

518
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: You know he's telling it looks like he's telling them

519
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 3: to chop the arm, and you know, in turn, you

520
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: you know, get your body turned the right way and

521
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 3: use your leverage with any use your leverage to ride

522
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 3: him away.

523
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: And this happens all the time. It doesn't mean it's

524
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: it's yours of a bad o line coach or a

525
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: bad receiver coach or whatever. But sometimes you want to

526
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: hear it from your teammate. I mean, as opposed to

527
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: go in and asking.

528
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 3: This, especially when it's a team he made, like Isaac

529
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: Sam Mama who is highly respected, and you.

530
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: Don't want to go to dad and mom, you go

531
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: to big brother, you know, right.

532
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: And you know, I know he got some votes as

533
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: one of the top guards in the league this year

534
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 3: on the ESPN or our top Interier offensive Lineman.

535
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

536
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: If they're how many guards are who are better than

537
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: him in the league.

538
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: No. I thought he played better and better and better

539
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: as the season went on, too, and the guys around

540
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: him aren't superstars either, you know, I mean the guy

541
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: that was right, guy was left. I mean, they're both

542
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: in the process of being replaced to some degree. Makes

543
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: you a heck of a lot easier when you're playing next

544
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: to Kelsey or Yeah, that Eagles line, they all kind

545
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: of feed off each other where you're I mean, he's

546
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: a really good player, but he's probably the fourth best

547
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: lineman when he left the Eagles, where he was immediately

548
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: the Steelers first best. You know, and if you could

549
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: get him back to being the third or fourth best,

550
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: and he's still playing at this level, you're gonna wint

551
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: the best line in the league.

552
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolute, And uh, you know, I think that's that's

553
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 3: a big part of you know, what's going on here.

554
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 3: I mean, you draft five five offensive linemen in the

555
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: last two drafts.

556
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you've added. That's what you've added. Yeah,

557
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: and Anderson is not a throwaway, No, not at all.

558
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: He's he's turning into a good player.

559
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm amazed that he was a seventh round draft pick.

560
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking back on it too. And I don't think

561
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: you and I talked about it, and we go pretty

562
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: deep in our draft coverage. He wasn't somebody a lot

563
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: of people were talking about. And then immediately when they

564
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: drafted him, and I really dug into his profile and

565
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: watch some clips, et cetera. I'm like, this guy should

566
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: have been a mid round pick.

567
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: I think it's because he got moved around. So yeah,

568
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: nobody got to see him at one spot to say,

569
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 3: all right, he's he's a right tackle, or he's a center,

570
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: he's you know, he's a left tackle.

571
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: You know.

572
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: Okay, we got seven games of this and eight games

573
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: of that, and you know, because he was, he was

574
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: their best guy, and they just kept using him to

575
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: plug the holes. And I think that may have hurt

576
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: him a little bit but helped the Steelers because they

577
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: got him.

578
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and that's a school they know well, and

579
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: they didn't need him right away to come in and

580
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: be a starting guard or anything like that. And man,

581
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: he was.

582
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: If he never becomes anything but their sixth offensive lineman,

583
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: their swing on game days as a seventh round draft pick, yeah,

584
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: that's a steal.

585
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: Very successful career if that's all you get out of

586
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: which isn't all you can get out of him.

587
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: Conversation and the idea that you can play all five spots.

588
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say, nobody does that. I

589
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: don't love him at tackle, you know. I mean, I

590
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: think he's an interior player. But there's be some time

591
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: in his career if he is active on game day

592
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: where two tackles get hurt or someone gets kicked out

593
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: of the game or something goofy happens, Like, well, he

594
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: can we can live with him.

595
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can get you out of the game, and

596
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: he might be better than that tackle in time.

597
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

598
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I do think he is a definitely

599
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: a keeper here, and they're gonna have a tough decision

600
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: on that offensive line. They are there when he comes

601
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: to cutdown time.

602
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: Because it's great brow.

603
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: They get like ten guys, and I don't know if

604
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: they can keep ten. No.

605
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: We brought Dylan Cook a couple of times yesterday too.

606
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's an NFL player.

607
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: Ryan McCollum and guys like that, yeah that you know,

608
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: played game games in the NFL.

609
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: And hard to stash those guys under practice squad too.

610
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: There's a short yes, yeah, you can't really, someone's gonna

611
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: grab them. Yeah.

612
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: So I just wonder if that, uh, you know, maybe

613
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: you work out something at some point for a trade.

614
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: You hope that nobody gets hurt. Yeah, and that that

615
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: that solves your problem.

616
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, it's another interesting position though, like you mentioned,

617
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: I forget how you phrased it, but we were talking

618
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: about when you think the rookies, the first two picks

619
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: in particular, will really start taking first team reps. How

620
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: are they going to divvy up O line preseason reps?

621
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: And we talk about this all the time at quarterback,

622
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: but oh, line is not going to be an easy

623
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: one to figure out who's playing with who. You definitely

624
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: want some continuity, especially with your top group, but you

625
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: really want to see some of these guys and can

626
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: they play multiple positions, et cetera. So that's gonna be

627
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: fun too.

628
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, and that you know, that's second unit

629
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: that they're putting out there.

630
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Pretty good, pretty darn good. Yeah, I mean, and some

631
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: of those guys might not be a second unit for long.

632
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we'll see how that continues to itself out

633
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: here as they get into well Tuesday is going to

634
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: start to.

635
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: We can't stress a lot of that. It's not like

636
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: this last four or nothing. This was a lot of

637
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: fun and I learned a ton have a much better

638
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: feel for the team. But Tuesday, it's going to be

639
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: a different world. Yeah, it becomes football. Yeah yeah, And

640
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that to happen. You know, we'll

641
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: see how that continues to work itself out. I would

642
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: expect Russell Wilson at that point to be back on

643
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: the field. We'll see the way he's moving around and participating. Now,

644
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: you would sure think so yeah, I would think so. Yeah.

645
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: I think I think that's what they're gearing up towards,

646
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: because again, you can use these as you know, Russell

647
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: Wilson was at all of the OTA sessions in Mini

648
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: camp and all that, and and took the first team reps. Well,

649
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: you've got an opportunity now over the last four days

650
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: to get justin Field additional reps. You know, you got,

651
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: you know, Alan additional reps. You even got you know,

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Speaker 3: John Reese Plumbley additional reps that he wouldn't have gotten.

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Speaker 1: And Fields needs it more than Wilson, Yes, I mean

654
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Speaker 1: as a developmental player. I mean they're what ten years

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Speaker 1: apart or something like that. I mean, one guy's been

656
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Speaker 1: around the block and I understand it's new people, new offense,

657
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Speaker 1: new city, new team, new head coach for him all

658
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Speaker 1: that stuff, but it's still NFL football and he knows

659
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Speaker 1: what to do, how to prepare himself all those different things.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 3: on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. We are

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Speaker 3: live from Steelers' training camp here at Saint Vincent College.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: And we are back.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson here at

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Speaker 3: Saint Vincent College in beautiful Latrop and Matt that just

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Speaker 3: looking around the league here as we finished our wrap

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Speaker 3: up here of Steelers practice number four. Here at training

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Speaker 3: camp for the Bengals, tight end Eric all who was

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Speaker 3: a draft pick by them, passed his physical and has

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Speaker 3: been clear to return from the active non football injury

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Speaker 3: list for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you would have been like a third

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Speaker 1: or fourth round pick had he not been had some

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Speaker 1: medical concerns which I don't exactly know what they are.

680
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Speaker 1: But that's good news for him. You want to get

681
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Speaker 1: him out there a lot. There really isn't that much

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Speaker 1: ahead of him too. I mean he could be their

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Speaker 1: starter by midseason or something like that. Iowa tight end.

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Speaker 3: Those Iowa tight ends have done well for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Defensive lineman Sam Williams was carted off the practice field

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Speaker 3: or yil Sunday after suffering an apparent leg injury.

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Speaker 1: He'll undergo an MRI.

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Speaker 3: NFL Network Shane Slater reported in per source, Williams was

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Speaker 3: engaged in a block during a special teams drill before

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Speaker 3: falling to the ground and grabbing his left knee area.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, he's a good young player that would play more

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Speaker 1: snaps for other teams. And they have Parsons, they have Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: That's a potential significant yeah right right, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: not I mean, he would be very much in the rotation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's bad news for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Also, tray Von Diggs looking good, but the team is

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Speaker 3: taking some extra time with him by ke keeping him

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Speaker 3: on the pup list. He probably has a whole lot

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Speaker 3: of concern or worry with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They did, however, have garyan Conley who was a twenty

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Speaker 3: seventeen first round pick of the of the Raiders. He

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Speaker 3: notified the Cowboys he would be retiring. They released him

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Speaker 3: on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean you tell we had a good

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Speaker 1: conversation last segment about great draft classes. I mean he

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Speaker 1: was one of the bigger busts in recent memory too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's done nothing since for being a first

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Speaker 1: round pick for.

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Speaker 3: The Kansas City Chiefs. Clyde Edwards Hilaria misspractice on Sunday

712
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Speaker 3: with an illness. Marquise Brown also missing practice today with

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Speaker 3: an illness. Chris Jones miss practice. He's groin but the

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Speaker 3: injury is not believed to be serious. But those are

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Speaker 3: all names that I'm sure they're not overly concerned about.

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Speaker 3: But I would be concerned about. You know, groin injuries

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Speaker 3: can linger.

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Speaker 1: They can't, they can't. Maybe he doesn't even play a

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Speaker 1: preseason snap now or with anyways, is actually their number

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Speaker 1: two right now?

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Speaker 3: And I wouldn't be real comfortable with that if I

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Speaker 3: was a chieved. No, I wouldn't be either. The Miami

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Speaker 3: Dolphins activated David Long, linebacker off the physically unable to

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Speaker 3: perform list, and they need him.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah, you'll see a lot of that early

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Speaker 1: in camp, you know, into early August, where guys are

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Speaker 1: in and off, off and on those lists, and most

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Speaker 1: of it's precautionary. If it lingers more than that, then

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Speaker 1: you start to worry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, that's common. How about this at news out

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Speaker 3: of Tampa Bay, this is a so Buccaneers GM Jason

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Speaker 3: Licked optimistic on a new deal with Tristan wirfs. Lick

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Speaker 3: said he thinks he deserves to be the highest paid.

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Speaker 1: I heard in the league. I heard that. Yeah, the GM.

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Speaker 3: That's that's not not a good job at bargaining.

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Speaker 1: The owners probably like that's a lot, man. I'm the

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Speaker 1: one right in the check, Jason. You know, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's not necessarily wrong either. I mean so no, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he is right. Like you don't show them

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Speaker 1: your cards. I got three aces, you know, to try

741
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Speaker 1: to beat it. This isn't blackjack yet, but no. Darrisaw

742
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Speaker 1: just signed with the Vikings to real good money. I

743
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Speaker 1: mean he's he's not as good as worst, but he's

744
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Speaker 1: one of the best young tackles in the league. Worst

745
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Speaker 1: was the probably best right tackle, then moved the left

746
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Speaker 1: and didn't miss a beat. I mean, he's a foundational

747
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Speaker 1: player for him, and he's gonna get noticeably more than Darrisaw.

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Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be Penny Soool money. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: the right tackle, maybe higher because he's a left that

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Speaker 1: that'll be kind of interesting. Now I talk through it,

751
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Speaker 1: like if all the tackles in the league, when you

752
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Speaker 1: or even offensive lineman, when you factor in position what

753
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Speaker 1: they've done age, I think i'd take pennyol Penny Soools

754
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Speaker 1: my first pay, Okay, but Worf's would be close behind.

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Speaker 1: But now I'm sure the agent's gonna say, well, my

756
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Speaker 1: left tackle is worth more than your right tackle in Detroit, right,

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Speaker 1: But that does that still hold true? I mean I

758
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Speaker 1: think those distinctions are much less than ever. I mean,

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Speaker 1: right tackle have to block Watt Well.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing too for the Buccaneers is that they

761
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Speaker 3: just made Antoine Winfield the highest paid safety in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you just gave Baker Mayfield fields making a nice buck.

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Speaker 3: You have thirty plus million dollars a year. You know

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Speaker 3: you've got Mike Evans on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, make him. You can't pay everybody. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: they're probably going to have the highest paid offensive linemen

767
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Speaker 1: and defensive back in the league all in the course

768
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Speaker 1: of two months or whatever. Yeah, I mean, that's that's

769
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Speaker 1: hard to handle him and you'd rather have Mahomes or

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Speaker 1: you know, right. Yeah, so that's that's interesting. I did

771
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Speaker 1: you look at their cap? I wonder how tight they

772
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Speaker 1: are up against it. I think because I've been trying

773
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Speaker 1: to kind of pay an attention to, you know, Godwin's availability. Yeah,

774
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Speaker 1: they had to shed some some money in the offseason.

775
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Speaker 3: He let the cornerbacks go into that nature because they're

776
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Speaker 3: paying these other guys.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, yeah, interesting team, So ta real quick on

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Speaker 1: the box. Yeah, it's that's a weird team build, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think you could look at your team and

780
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Speaker 1: be like, we're a super Bowl contender, but you won

781
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Speaker 1: your division last year. Yeah, you know, I mean you

782
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Speaker 1: kind of have to straddle it a little bit of well,

783
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Speaker 1: we don't have the young quarterbacks. We're bringing back Mayfield

784
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Speaker 1: and maybe we can compete and get a little better.

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Speaker 1: But you also have to be realistic and think, can

786
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Speaker 1: we beat the Eagles and Lions and Niners in this

787
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Speaker 1: division and go to the dance? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be difficult. The two big quarterback

789
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Speaker 3: deals over the weekend of one for two attack of

790
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Speaker 3: Iiloa one for Jordan Love. Both guys talked about it,

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Speaker 3: and Tua said he's thankful that the Dolphins showed him

792
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Speaker 3: the money, and Love said there's no hiding from the

793
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Speaker 3: pressure of having that new.

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Speaker 1: I would have more face signing Love than Tua. But

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Speaker 1: Love's really only had like ten good games, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were really impressive. I just think that's

797
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Speaker 1: the way the league's gonna go now. I mean I

798
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Speaker 1: think that that they that you just sign your own

799
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Speaker 1: and you make them super expensive, and you get behind

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Speaker 1: him and you know, he's not Aaron Rodgers in his

801
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: prime or homes now or one of those guys. But

802
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Speaker 1: man going back to the well for the draft or

803
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Speaker 1: you know, not signing them or flat out trading them

804
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Speaker 1: so risky.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's two more teams who are now out

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Speaker 3: of the market for quarterbacks in the next few years.

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Speaker 1: Good point. Good point. I mean, I guess we could

808
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Speaker 1: at some point build a list of what quarter what

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Speaker 1: teams won't be in the market.

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00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I mean, so this offseason we've seen golf,

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Speaker 3: Tua Mayfield with it, with the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, who else am I missing?

813
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 3: Cousin's got a deal, but they can get out of that.

814
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Speaker 1: And then six first round picks, one of them overlaps

815
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Yeah, but I mean, you're not going to

816
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Speaker 1: think the Patriots in the quarterback market next year, right,

817
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Speaker 1: even if he doesn't play or McCarthy doesn't play. The

818
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: Bears aren't going to be maybe a new one like

819
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Speaker 1: Carolina pops up, but they're two years into it. Yeah,

820
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Speaker 1: is not going to be in that market.

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Speaker 3: So when you start looking at you know, if you're

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Speaker 3: a team like the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: And even like the Niners, probably will walk up party

824
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Speaker 1: next yeah, right anywhere.

825
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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott will see what happens with that.

826
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Speaker 1: So that's a team that could become in the market

827
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Speaker 1: or not or not or not right.

828
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Speaker 3: But so you start looking at that, and you know,

829
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Speaker 3: people talk about, well, you know, the Steelers, they don't

830
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Speaker 3: have any quarterbacks signed beyond this year. True, that might

831
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Speaker 3: not be the worst thing in the world.

832
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Speaker 1: Might not be the worst thing in the world. I mean,

833
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Speaker 1: how many teams are you competing with And it doesn't

834
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Speaker 1: look like nearly the quarterback draft of last year. But

835
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Speaker 1: someone's going to arise. I mean they always do.

836
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Speaker 3: If there are only four or five teams that are

837
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Speaker 3: in the market, that changes things a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would think the Raiders, the Giants,

839
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Speaker 1: There's a couple of teams that really come to mind

840
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Speaker 1: that could be aggressive. You know, But is Denver gonna

841
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Speaker 1: be in the market. No, I would think not, you know,

842
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: get two years, you know, I mean just looking around

843
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: the AFC, no one but Buffalo, maybe the Jets. No

844
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Speaker 1: on Miami, No on the Patriots. No. Probably in the

845
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Speaker 1: AFC North. Could you move on from Watson after this year?

846
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: They could, but they're still they're still married to money. Wise,

847
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could use a first round pick.

848
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Speaker 1: You couldn't go sign Dak Prescott, No, but maybe you

849
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Speaker 1: could use a high pick or a second round or something.

850
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Speaker 1: Indy's probably got their guy Jackson. We didn't mention Lawrence.

851
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: He's a deal. Tennessee could be done with Levis. I mean,

852
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: if he flops, maybe.

853
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: Probably too early for that, probably give him another year.

854
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Speaker 1: I would think who else. Houston's got their guy, Chargers

855
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: got their guys, She's got their guy. Raiders will almost

856
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: certainly be in the market and Denver's got their guys.

857
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Speaker 1: What if Minshew goes out and plays well this year

858
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: for them, Well, it could be like a Mayfield situation.

859
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Speaker 1: You know, like a year ago, we wouldn't have said

860
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Speaker 1: Tampa had their guy, right, Yeah, and he plays well

861
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Speaker 1: enough to.

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Speaker 3: Say, Let's say Minshew goes out and you know, they

863
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Speaker 3: win seven or eight games and he puts up similar

864
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Speaker 3: numbers of what he did last year with Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: You look at it and you.

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Speaker 3: Go, if you're the Raiders, like, are we that far off?

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Speaker 1: And if that's the case, you probably don't have a

868
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Speaker 1: crack at the first quarterback in the draft, you know,

869
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Speaker 1: So give him a Mayfield type deal and see where

870
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Speaker 1: chips lie and try to get really strong around him. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then you look at the NFC, I mean with

872
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Speaker 3: the a's all the all the young quarterbacks. Yeah, I

873
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Speaker 3: have come in into the AFC.

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Speaker 1: But a lot just got drafted the NFC too. That

875
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Speaker 1: won't move away, right, I mean, you.

876
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Speaker 3: Know, we'll see what happens in Dallas. The Giants you

877
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Speaker 3: mentioned could be I would think a chance. Washington won't

878
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Speaker 3: be Washington won't be Philly won't be No, Detroit won't

879
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Speaker 3: be Chicago won't be Bree Bay now won't Minnesota in

880
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Speaker 3: Minnesota took one in the first round. Saints could, yeah,

881
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Speaker 3: Atlanta won't. Right, Tampa but unlikely. I mean, he just

882
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: gave you that money. I mean, you could get out

883
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Speaker 3: of that, or someone's too good to pass up in

884
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Speaker 3: the draft. Maybe Carolina possibly, but he took him number

885
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Speaker 3: one overall, one overall, and.

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Speaker 1: I bet yeah, two seasons. Give him two seasons. I

887
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Speaker 1: mean you'd think at least maybe they sign per Set

888
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Speaker 1: or something like that, or you know, and then the

889
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: West Perty you'll be there, Kyler will be there, maybe Seattle,

890
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: maybe Seattle probab maybe possibly Seattle even if well, if

891
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: Gino's good, maybe a draft one just to develop and

892
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: who we miss and Rams they could draft one, they could,

893
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Speaker 1: they extended him to. We didn't mention them. But at

894
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Speaker 1: his age, like the Jets and Rams can't just look

895
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: at their guys and be like, we're good for it.

896
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Speaker 1: But it's not like something that you do.

897
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Speaker 3: If you're one of those teams, you go, we have

898
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Speaker 3: to the Jets, I think a little bit differently than

899
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: the Rams me too.

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Speaker 1: But if you're the if you're the.

901
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 3: Jets are all in, right, now, yes, and if Rogers

902
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: says he wants to come back next year, you almost

903
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Speaker 3: have to use a draft pick to win.

904
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Speaker 1: Now exactly what they did with, you know, the offensive lineman.

905
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Speaker 1: I'd be having a hard time sleep at night if

906
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Speaker 1: I was a GM or Jets with the Rams and

907
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Speaker 1: didn't at least have a rookie third round pick. Yeah,

908
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, even like Spencer Rattler. Not that

909
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: I love Spencer Rattler, but I mean somebody like that,

910
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: or maybe they should have been the team that traded

911
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: for Kenny Pickett, you know what I mean, Like I

912
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: just have some kind of contingency plan that's young that

913
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: I don't have to count on.

914
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Speaker 3: But well, and that's the thing with the team like Seattle. Yeah,

915
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 3: you know you went out and got the go get

916
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Speaker 3: how Yeah, you got Sam Howe. Maybe maybe they really

917
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Speaker 3: like Sam hell Maybe Sam Holl turns into side again.

918
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Speaker 3: I think the quarterback market in the off season could

919
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: be pretty small. I mean if Seattle teams in the

920
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Speaker 3: in the mix for a quarterback.

921
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if Seattle's two and four, could Gino move it

922
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Speaker 1: the deadline or you know somebody like that too. I mean,

923
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Speaker 1: even like the mac Jones.

924
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: Turned things over to Howell and see what he's going to,

925
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: see what he does right, and maybe he shines.

926
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So no, I mean, unfortunately one of those names

927
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Speaker 1: that we thought won't need one. Somebody might get hurt

928
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: probably or Stafford or tired. But it's still I mean

929
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Speaker 1: when we have five or six teams, yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are one of them, whether they keep their own

931
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Speaker 1: or whatever they're they definitely don't have one for next year.

932
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Speaker 3: So I think that's one of the reasons why the

933
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Speaker 3: Steelers are kind of in a holding pattern. There's no

934
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Speaker 3: reason to extend Fields.

935
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Speaker 1: Or or Wilson. Just learn more, learn more.

936
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Speaker 3: About them, see where you're at at the end of

937
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 3: the year, because you don't know what's going to happen.

938
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Speaker 3: For example, with Dak Prescott in Dallas, maybe they do

939
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Speaker 3: decide it's it's they can't maybe Kirk Cousins does end

940
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: up getting released or whatever.

941
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Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to get him cheap too. Yeah,

942
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like they gave him the big signing bonus.

943
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: Could he be next year's Russell Wilson and we just

944
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: don't know.

945
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Speaker 3: I mean again, you know, four years ago at this time,

946
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Speaker 3: nobody's talking about Joe Burrow.

947
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Speaker 1: No, that was you know, tank for two a year. Yeah,

948
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Speaker 1: you know, so, I mean that every year you could

949
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Speaker 1: come with those guys Wentz Mayfield. I mean, they weren't

950
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Speaker 1: going into their final seasons considered to be top five picks. Right, Yeah,

951
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: so you don't know what.

952
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: That quarterback class is going to look like six months

953
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Speaker 3: from now or eight months from now, and there may

954
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Speaker 3: be the next thing.

955
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Speaker 1: You know, there's all a.

956
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Speaker 3: Lot of there's there's five quarterbacks of the first round,

957
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: great on them, and that changes teams. And there's two

958
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 3: free agentcy like and a guy you can get in trade.

959
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Speaker 1: You know. I mean, I'm not predicting this, but what

960
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones has a really good year, you know,

961
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Speaker 1: they'll just keep him under contract and yeah, they got him.

962
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: He has to be great, but he could be Well,

963
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: let's keep building around him and we're not going to

964
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: go in the quarterback mark. They didn't this year. Yeah,

965
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: so they could have drafted Pennix or you know, this

966
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Speaker 1: is this.

967
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Speaker 3: Is really turning into a year to year league. Yeah,

968
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Speaker 3: so than maybe ever before. Atlanta's particularly interesting. Yeah, how

969
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Speaker 3: long can you keep Cousins and Penix on their team?

970
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Speaker 3: Especially Pennock's age. I mean maybe they look at this

971
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 3: like a the way the Packers did with Aaron Rodgers

972
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Speaker 3: and Jordan Love, Like, let's let him sit for a

973
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Speaker 3: couple of years and he can learn from Cousins. And

974
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Speaker 3: you know, two years from now or three years from now,

975
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Speaker 3: when Cousins is no longer on, we just move on.

976
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would think Cousins is back, but might

977
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: not be there for all three years. Yeah, right, But

978
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Speaker 1: now there's a lot of uncertainty and there's so many

979
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Speaker 1: things will be getting revealed, no, no doubt about it.

980
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, I think that's why the

981
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: Steelers are smart to be to be prudent right now

982
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: and just let this happen. Let's see what you got.

983
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Speaker 1: It would be different if it was the twenty six

984
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: year old version of Russell Wilson. Yeah, you know. Then

985
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: you're like, I know, this guy is a dude.

986
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Speaker 3: But the twenty six year old version of Russell Wilson

987
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: would have been available. Now you don't get him for nothing, yeah, right, right,

988
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Speaker 3: I mean you would have.

989
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: Had to give up a lot.

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Speaker 3: dot Steelers dot com. He is Matt Williamson. I am

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Speaker 3: Dale Lolly. We are live here from Steelers' training camp

998
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Speaker 3: at Saint Vincent College. Just want to remind everybody, no

999
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 3: practice tomorrow, so don't come out here on Monday, but

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Speaker 3: they will be back on Tuesday and they will be

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Speaker 3: in pads for the first time this year.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, good stuff, so many fun things to look

1003
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Speaker 1: forward to, and that's gonna be high on the list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to see that. That's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a lot of fun. Always enjoy that pad of practice.

1006
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Speaker 3: And of course the practices go back during the week

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Speaker 3: here to ten am. Oh true weekdays, first.

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Speaker 1: Weekend, so make note if you're coming out here, there's

1009
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Speaker 1: two different start times. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I believe campus opens up at eight am, so you

1011
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: can get out here.

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Speaker 1: And I bet it's hopping on Tuesday.

1013
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be. If people know what they're doing here.

1014
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: They should be coming out to this one. They should

1015
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: be out at all of them. Why not, right, come on,

1016
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 3: come on out and have some fun. But Matt, that

1017
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Speaker 3: is going to do it for our show today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Fun. I'm gonna stop home for a day and

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00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: then come back and we're really go, you know, get

1020
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Speaker 1: entrenched here. Yeah, can't wait to do that.

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Speaker 3: We'll be here then the next six days after that,

1022
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Speaker 3: so we will be digging in here at Lake Trobe

1023
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Speaker 3: at Saint Vincent College. But for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 3: for Justin Miller back on site, keeping us on the air,

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Speaker 3: I am Dale, Lolly. We appreciate you listening to this

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Speaker 3: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio