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Speaker 2: gms to figure out math? It's like, this was like,

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Speaker 2: It's so, here's one of them. I believe exits the

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Speaker 2: smartest pece I've met. Did not always go to great

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Speaker 2: if there's a certain jet fuel to chaos as a

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Speaker 2: at any one time in the history of the NFL,

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Speaker 2: there's about five rockstar coaches, and right now it's you know,

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Speaker 2: know dead cap Hell, Jim Harbaugh, Andy Reid. You know

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Speaker 2: there's a handful. I think McVeigh and Shanahan fall into

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Speaker 2: because just like San Francisco, San Francisco was a dead

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Speaker 1: They have no evidence of it. They used a search

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Speaker 2: So one of the things I like about this is

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Speaker 2: the exploration of different things. So I'll ask you about

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Speaker 2: UFOs later, but I want to start with this.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of times there's certain things I try

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Speaker 2: Don't over don't get hyperbolic on something because it happened today,

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Speaker 2: The other thing is, don't let singular moments define somebody.

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Speaker 2: eight come from behind fourth quarter wins. He's actually not

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Speaker 1: At forever thirty eight. Ever, it's unbelievable. But you see,

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Speaker 2: He gets very, very tight. And why would this be.

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Speaker 2: He's so talented And I have a lot of beliefs

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Speaker 2: on Aaron Rodgers' personality, but generally quarterbacks who are not

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Speaker 2: good late it's because they get tight. And I think

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Speaker 2: Aaron has been elevated because of the esthetic appeal. Marino

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Speaker 1: And the truth is the prep quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Is that Aaron has been the reason.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense that he'd be great all

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Speaker 2: I think it's because that is grinder territory. Bo Nicks,

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Speaker 2: funny how we view him as this legendary late game

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Speaker 1: He's actually bad at it. Yeah, so I would be

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Speaker 1: very interested in actually parsing the data on number of opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Is it at all possible that Aaron Rodgers has had

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Speaker 1: fewer opportunities than you would expect because he's so damn

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Speaker 1: good and his team was always winning.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson and Seattle didn't trail much and he has

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Speaker 2: thirty percent more.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, fair enough, Rogers, you and I I definitely

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Speaker 1: fall for the aesthetic of it. Aaron Rodgers won four MVPs.

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Speaker 1: Some of Aaron Rodgers's peak until Mahomes came along. I

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Speaker 1: like it was stupid. His ability to be a big

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Speaker 1: good as ever, and I think crazy influential, Like you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Mahomes, Mahomes is a combination of the two, right,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes has the from the pocket Andy Reid extension, brilliant

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Speaker 1: I think a robot made that throw. So Mahomes is stylistically,

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Speaker 2: So back before the stealth was created, I worked in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: fortify it, modify it, and control it. That's what our

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Speaker 2: I tend to think they're experimenting and they want to

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Speaker 1: They have. I mean, drone technology has been around for

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Speaker 2: except for the NFL. So with that premise, baseball is

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Speaker 2: in a good spot. So nobody likes their commissioner. Rob

433
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Speaker 2: Manfred has stepped in it a few times. Danny, but

434
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Speaker 2: he has been aggressive enough and his last two moves

435
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Speaker 2: have absolutely worked, removing the defensive shift and the pitch clock.

436
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Speaker 2: Attendance and ratings have benefited. So the golden at bat

437
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Speaker 2: is being suggested. And obviously I've said this, I'm not

438
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Speaker 2: sure if I've said it before, but baseball purists are

439
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Speaker 2: a lot like the Quakers of religion. They're diminishing in numbers.

440
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Speaker 2: Over my lifetime, we were all exhausted by their purity.

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Speaker 2: And baseball purists very much are, you know, the sanctity

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Speaker 2: of the game. But television now is the primary provider

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Speaker 2: of revenue, and they want more stars and they want

444
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Speaker 2: faster games. And I got to tell you seeing Bryce

445
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Speaker 2: Harper for the second time in twelve minutes instead of

446
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Speaker 2: the dugout is not a terrible thing. Now, you're more

447
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Speaker 2: purest than I am. After my rant here, but I

448
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Speaker 2: see the upside to it.

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Speaker 1: No, I do too. So Okay, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: there and it was really good. Let's start with the

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Speaker 1: golden at bat and then we could work backwards. I

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Speaker 1: like it. I don't know that it'll work. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that it'll get passed, but my basic premise is

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Speaker 1: I like sports and leagues who try stuff. When the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game with the Saints happened and there was

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Speaker 1: the terrible pass interference penalty, and they made past interference

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Speaker 1: reviewable for the next year, I said at the time

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Speaker 1: that that was going to backfire. I was like, that's

459
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Speaker 1: not a good idea making penalties reviewable, But I understood

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Speaker 1: the thought process behind it. They did a trial for

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Speaker 1: a year. It was a disaster. They went back on it,

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Speaker 1: but I applauded them for trying it, even if I

463
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Speaker 1: thought it wasn't going to work. The nd season tournament,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how big of a deal it becomes. But

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Speaker 1: I like that they tried it the pitch clock, as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, they finally tried it. Theo Epstein got really involved,

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Speaker 1: made a bunch of recommendations. He backed it data. He

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Speaker 1: tried stuff in the Fall League and the miners and

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Speaker 1: independent ball, and they worked it up and they're trying

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Speaker 1: it and the rule changes are working. Trying stuff is

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Speaker 1: a good idea, So I like the premise of it.

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Speaker 1: I like thinking outside the box. I don't particularly care

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Speaker 1: about the purists. And then I had our researcher at

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Speaker 1: breakfast Ball Troy, He's excellent. Look into the data on it,

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Speaker 1: and just to use the Dodgers and the Yankees, the

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Speaker 1: teams that were in the World Series with the biggest stars.

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Speaker 1: If you said eighth inning or later, tieder, one run,

478
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Speaker 1: game runner in scoring position, the Dodgers had that circumstance

479
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: happen one hundred and thirty eight times this past season.

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Speaker 1: Otani came up to the plate twenty times. It's not

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Speaker 1: enough when you compare it to Mahomes down six balls

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Speaker 1: in his hand, last two minutes, Lebron's got the ball

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Speaker 1: in his hands. Aaron Judge came up in that spot

484
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Speaker 1: eight times all year. Loan Soto came up ten times

485
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Speaker 1: all year. So your biggest stars, your best players, did

486
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Speaker 1: not come up in the biggest moments all year long,

487
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Speaker 1: nearly enough. So that is a problem that is worth solving.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea if the baseball illuminati will go

489
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Speaker 1: for it, but I love the creativity. Here's a prediction

490
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Speaker 1: for you, and you're more sourced than I am. You

491
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Speaker 1: know all the head honchos and more owners and all

492
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Speaker 1: of that. But let's just call this an informed one.

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Speaker 1: I think the next CBA in baseball is going to

494
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Speaker 1: be ugly. The last couple have been because of the

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Speaker 1: collapse of the RSN model and how much of the

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Speaker 1: revenue is localized. Right, the Dodgers got the last great deal,

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Speaker 1: so they have more money than everybody else. And then

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Speaker 1: the vanity owners, the Steve Cohens of the world, the

499
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Speaker 1: Yankees of the world. They can outspend everybody. The Cubs

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Speaker 1: have a network, but they launched it late, so they

501
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Speaker 1: don't make as much money from it as they would

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Speaker 1: have if they would have launched it in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. I think we've got the best

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Speaker 1: chance that we've ever had in the history of the

505
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Speaker 1: sport to come out of the next labor negotiation. And

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Speaker 1: it might be ugly. We might miss some games, we

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Speaker 1: might miss the spring training. We'll see how ugly it gets.

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Speaker 1: I think we might get a cap and a floor.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a real chance that enough billionaires that

510
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Speaker 1: are in smaller markets are going to say, guys, I

511
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: understand we want stars in big markets, but we can't

512
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Speaker 1: compete with no local media. Deal Like the Fox money

513
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Speaker 1: is great, that the ESPN money is great, but if

514
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Speaker 1: you guys are making the if the Dodgers are making

515
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Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars basically a year from their deal,

516
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Speaker 1: and the Twins and the Diamondbacks and the Brewers and

517
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Speaker 1: the Pirates, and a third of the league at this

518
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Speaker 1: point has their local media literally owned by MLB. The

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Speaker 1: people that own those teams are still billionaires, and their

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Speaker 1: friends are if they're friends with the billionaire who own

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Speaker 1: the rich teams with the good media deals. And the

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Speaker 1: players I think are going to go through You know,

523
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Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns will get paid, Soda will get paid. But

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to go through enough free agent

525
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Speaker 1: cycles where enough players are going to realize that the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers can't sign everybody, they only can play one right fielder,

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Speaker 1: they only can play one shortstop, that they are finally

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Speaker 1: going to acquiesce and say, okay, it's in our benefit

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Speaker 1: if the Pirates have to spend more and the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: have to spend a little bit less, and then it

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Speaker 1: will distribute the stars a little bit more evenly, which

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Speaker 1: will go against your first point. But a cap and

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Speaker 1: a floor, I think is a real chance to come

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Speaker 1: to baseball in the next five years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're paying attention to it. And of

536
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Speaker 2: course working at Fox, both of us now know about

537
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Speaker 2: the regional sports networks the RSNS. It is it is

538
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Speaker 2: one of the great exits in the history of business.

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Speaker 2: Those were worth half as much an hour after the

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Speaker 2: Murdoch sold them, and ninety percent less two hours after

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Speaker 2: they sold them. It was yeah, they and it was

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Speaker 2: a two billion, three billion dollar a year revenue for Fox.

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Speaker 2: But the problem being there were about four major markets

544
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Speaker 2: in the offing looking for new renegotiations and deals, and

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Speaker 2: the profits we're going to diminish. And uh yeah, that's

546
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: really really hurt the Kansas Cities, the Pittsburgh's, the Seattles.

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Speaker 2: It's highly punitive. They just can't for they can't even

548
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Speaker 2: get in the running on sometime second tier players, forget

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Speaker 2: Soto and Otani.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, like, the Cubs are a big market

551
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Speaker 1: team that make a killing. That attendance and in stadium

552
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Speaker 1: revenue matters in baseball more than any of the other sports.

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Speaker 1: And it's not close because they have so many. Right,

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Speaker 1: You've got eighty one home games. So the Cubs are

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Speaker 1: a big market team who do very well. But again,

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Speaker 1: they launched the marketing network late. I'm not speaking out

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Speaker 1: of school. This is well documented. They would admit to it,

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Speaker 1: and so you would think broadcasting one hundred and fifty

559
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Speaker 1: Cubs games a year would be great business. It's good business,

560
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Speaker 1: but it's not great. But it's not close to what

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers get because of when they launched it, because

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Speaker 1: the cable companies are not doing it in the same

563
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Speaker 1: way that they are not They're not willing to pay

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Speaker 1: for it in cord cutting and all the reasons that

565
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Speaker 1: are impacting the media landscape. So it's the inequity I

566
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: think has grown. You're right, it puts stars in big markets,

567
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Speaker 1: and in theory that is good. But there's too many

568
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Speaker 1: billionaires that own too many teams that don't have that

569
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Speaker 1: deal that you don't want them to get out of

570
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: the baseball business and not want to own the Twins

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Speaker 1: or the Diamondbacks or the Pirates or the Brewers. So

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Speaker 1: I think there's going to be a mechanism to level

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Speaker 1: the playing field through the next CBA. I really do

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Speaker 1: the as we do what we do for a living.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never been a really envious person, but as

576
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: I've aged, there are some things in our business that

577
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Speaker 2: feel like sometimes minutia, like doing shows, in July. In

578
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Speaker 2: the last year, for the first time, I took like

579
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Speaker 2: three weeks off in July. I said, guys, it's it's.

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Speaker 1: By the way, thank you because I hosted for you

581
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Speaker 1: July eighth and ninth, and I think it changed my life,

582
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Speaker 1: so so please do that again.

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Speaker 2: So the reason July and August have gotten less interesting

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Speaker 2: are cultural changes. I believe Sean McVay said I'm not

585
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Speaker 2: playing any of my good players in the preseason, and

586
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Speaker 2: everybody said, you're nuts.

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Speaker 1: You'll start off oh.

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Speaker 2: To eight and he started eight and oh, and then

589
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Speaker 2: everybody went, I think he's got it. And so now

590
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Speaker 2: the preseason is utterly charmless. There is nothing interesting about

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Speaker 2: it at all. Therefore, those three to four weeks and

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Speaker 2: they've shortened it from four to three weeks, will probably

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Speaker 2: be shortened to two weeks, and August is dead. It's

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Speaker 2: regular season baseball. A lot of the you know, as

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Speaker 2: the gap between the good and the terrible and Made

596
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Speaker 2: League Baseball widens, the races are settled, you know, the

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Speaker 2: good teams are resting pitchers and you know, so it's

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Speaker 2: a little minutia. So sometimes I think the audience thinks

599
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Speaker 2: we do things just for ratings. Of course we do right.

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Speaker 2: Ratings and revenue drive our entire existence. But I was

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Speaker 2: I was sitting there day and I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: the cyclical nature. And I took a calendar out, and

603
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Speaker 2: I thought, here are the busy times, here are the

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Speaker 2: slow times. And I found, like six weeks. If I

605
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Speaker 2: could ideally take six weeks off a year, six to eight, here.

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Speaker 1: Where they were.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things that was interesting is that

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Speaker 2: in my lifetime only one sport has been created, UFC

609
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: that literally becomes part of my life. I'm now watching UFC.

610
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Speaker 2: I watched college pro, NBA, March Madness golf tournament's tennis,

611
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Speaker 2: I watched all that stuff. Now soccer is more popular.

612
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Speaker 2: But I was watching the United States men's and women's

613
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Speaker 2: national teams twenty five years ago.

614
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Speaker 1: I didn't care.

615
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Speaker 2: Sof is now the one created sport. A lot of

616
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Speaker 2: it's just the force of nature, force of personality of

617
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: Dana White, like renting an island during COVID, just it

618
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: really sums up who he is. But I was sitting

619
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Speaker 2: there and I said, you know what, Caitlin Clark and

620
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: Angel Reese has a magic bird feel to it. And

621
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Speaker 2: I said, I talked about it ten times this year,

622
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Speaker 2: and I monitor my ratings and the ratings people dug it.

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Speaker 2: It was often my first or second highest rented segment,

624
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Speaker 2: and I said, I think it's going to become I

625
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Speaker 2: never thought this in a million years. Hell, the teams

626
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: don't make any money WNBA. But I'm like, well, do

627
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Speaker 2: I have to cover the league? No, I'm going to

628
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Speaker 2: cover Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. I don't cover boxing,

629
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Speaker 2: but about three times a year there's a fight in

630
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: the seventies, eighties, and nineties and you'd say, Okay, here's

631
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Speaker 2: Ali Foreman. We would before I got into this business,

632
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Speaker 2: and I know a lot of people will push back

633
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: and go that's very PC. But outside of UFC, I

634
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: am convinced that Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese will be

635
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: a decade long potential story as long as both teams

636
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Speaker 2: are viable.

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Speaker 1: Is that a reach? Is that recency bias? No? I

638
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: don't think so. Listen. One of the all time great

639
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Colin Cowhard analogies is that you're in the omelet business,

640
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: not the egg business. I love that line. I think

641
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: it's so good. You're like, my job isn't to make

642
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: you interesting? I talk about you when you become interesting.

643
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: I loved that line from you, And so they are interesting.

644
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: The data supports it, and it has a lot of things. Listen, frankly,

645
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Speaker 1: some of it's ugly, right, There's there's racial components, there's

646
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Speaker 1: sexism components. Like some of the stuff that came back

647
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: on it was pretty ugly. But at its core, I

648
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: always say rivalries are awesome. Yeah, rivalry. That's why Steelers

649
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Ravens gets you your juices flowing a little bit, Bears, Packers, Yankees,

650
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: Read Cubs, Cardinals, Celtics, Lakers. We like it. We like

651
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: rivalries because I want less hate in the world and

652
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: more Hayen sports, and so like a healthy amount of

653
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: hate is okay to me. Like I don't want there

654
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: to be riots, but I wasn't like clutching my pearls

655
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: over flag planting, you know. I'm like, it's kind of funny,

656
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of funny that a two win team

657
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: plants a flag at midfield and then they push a

658
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: show and it goes the other way. When you're pepper

659
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: spraying college kids, I'm like, that's ridiculous. And I understand

660
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: that I'm flirting in a gray area there on advocating something,

661
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: and then when it gets too far, I'm like, well

662
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: that's too far. Sorry, call me a hypocrite. I like

663
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of trash talk in my sports. I'm

664
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna do something on Breakfast Ball tomorrow. I don't think

665
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: taunting should be a penalty in the NFL on sportsmanlike conduct.

666
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: If you punch a guy, you spit any guy's face, fine,

667
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: unnecessary roughness, the same thing, delay a game, same thing taunting.

668
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: Let them trash talk and figure it out. I'm cool

669
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Speaker 1: with it. I'll make the case tomorrow on the show.

670
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: That's a meandering way to get to rights are awesome

671
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: and star power, celebrity h it dates back to college familiarity.

672
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: We know it. And then there's also this, and you

673
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: could speak to this. You've been in the game longer

674
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: than I have. People like to be a part of

675
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Speaker 1: something that is growing, right, Like the World Series, the

676
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: number was big, it was as good as it could

677
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Speaker 1: have been. Yankees and Dodgers, Otani, Judge, Sodo, et cetera.

678
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Speaker 1: But like if baseball got that number thirty years ago,

679
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: they would have been appalled. And so like the general

680
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: trend of baseball is down in terms of ratings from

681
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Speaker 1: where it was, the WNBA, the era is going up.

682
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: People like growth stories, Right, how many companies have you

683
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: invested in or talked to their CEOs out there in

684
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: California where it's like, we don't even need to show profit,

685
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Speaker 1: we just need to show that we're growth and more

686
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: you and all of that stuff. So I think that's

687
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Speaker 1: the netflicks for years, for almost all of them, for years.

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00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: You know, like the line in David Fincher's The Social Network, like,

689
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: don't you're throwing a cool party? You know a million

690
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: dollars isn't cool? You know it is a billion dollars,

691
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Like don't don't take an ad when you got on

692
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Speaker 1: one hundred college campuses. Wait until you're in one hundred

693
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: countries and then do it right, like lose money, keep

694
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Speaker 1: getting your funding, and then cash in big at the end.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how big the WNBA can get,

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00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: That's right, I don't. Like I do have some skepticism

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Speaker 1: on how big it can get as as a whole

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Speaker 1: league teams. Caitlin Clark not rooting for it, obviously, but

699
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Speaker 1: like say she tears her ACL in the second week

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Speaker 1: of the season. I think that'd be real bad for

701
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: interest for the sport for that season, right. I think

702
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: it's carried by a very few pockets of stars right now.

703
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: But will it be more popular in five years than

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00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: it is today? Yes, Like it is clearly a growth enterprise,

705
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: and I think that that is also a really popular phenomenon.

706
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: Like people like to be a part of something early

707
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Speaker 1: in on the grounds or I knew this band before

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Speaker 1: they got on the test feel smart? Yes, Oh when

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Speaker 1: when did you sign up for Blue Sky? Like you

710
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's happening right now. We'll

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Speaker 1: see maybe Blue Sky will be a huge thing in

712
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Speaker 1: two years, maybe it will be like what was Blue

713
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Sky again? But so I don't know where it ends

714
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Speaker 1: for the WNBA, but I am absolutely positive Caitlin Clark

715
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Speaker 1: will be a story ten years from now. She will

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Speaker 1: bring the league with her. And that is good business

717
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: because it's growth. Even if Yankees Dodgers outrates the WNBA championship,

718
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: like it's just one's going up the others going down.

719
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Speaker 1: So therefore it it is seen as a cooler thing

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Speaker 1: to be a part of.

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Speaker 2: in your life. This is a paid advertisement. I want

739
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Speaker 2: to talk about Blue Sky and I want to talk

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Speaker 2: about the media in general. I'm not going to join

741
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: Blue Sky because you can't transfer your followers. There's what

742
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: they call a bridge that can help it. But people

743
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: are too busy to worry about my bridge and my followers.

744
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: So if I could transfer all my followers, I don't

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Speaker 2: even know if I would do it then, but I can't,

746
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: and I have almost two million. So I'm okay with

747
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: I'm okay with X. But it's a bigger picture is

748
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: that you know a lot of people on the left

749
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Speaker 2: post election, I'm out of here, and my take is, well,

750
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: that's kind of precious and a bit convenient. Is that

751
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: the truth is and Ethan Strauss discussed this recently in

752
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: a column on Substackbody gets treated like shit on X.

753
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: That's you got it.

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00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: Pretty girls, ugly boys, everybody. I mean, nobody's happy because people,

755
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: most people don't have power, and anonymously we all have

756
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: more power, and a lot of people who are miserable

757
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: and lonely, this is their time to flex, so let

758
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: them just don't read it. But it's interesting. I think

759
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: there's a responsibility to some degree. We're all somewhat, you know,

760
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: responsible for our happiness. I tell my daughter, don't wake

761
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: up looking for happiness. Have have things to do, follow

762
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: your passions and what you're good at, you'll find happiness right,

763
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: Like happiness will come to you if you just wake up.

764
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: It's like grabbing a rainbow. I'm gonna wake up and

765
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: find happiness. There's nothing to grab. You have to see

766
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: other things that make you happy. That's happiness.

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Speaker 1: And it really was.

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Speaker 2: What's interesting about a lot of Hollywood and the left

769
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: moving to blue Sky. It's like you just lost an

770
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Speaker 2: election and there's an argument to be made the primary

771
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: reason was you were a bit out of touch with

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Speaker 2: regular people. Well, a lot of regular people get a

773
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: flex on X, and when you lost, they did. And

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Speaker 2: you're saying I don't want to deal with you, and

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00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: to me, I'm like, guys, you would have stayed if

776
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: you want, stay if you lose, stay connected to people,

777
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: even if they can be angry and occasionally vile.

778
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Speaker 3: Is one of the.

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Speaker 2: Reasons I stay on X is to allow people to

780
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: take shots at me, to allow people to whack emle

781
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: me because I'm wrong, And if I'm wrong, I don't

782
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: have to read it, I commute it. But I do

783
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Speaker 2: think the one of the forms of hypocrisy that really

784
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: bothers me about the media is we criticize for a

785
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: living and we can't take it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Yeah, I hate that about us. Yeah that the

787
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: last part of what you just said. I could not

788
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Speaker 1: rubber stamp my agreement went on more people, It's amazing

789
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: what we get to do for a living. And like

790
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: the fact that, like if we get a wrong opinion

791
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: thrown in our face and then people get defensive about

792
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: it in our industry, I'm like, are you nuts? Like

793
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: we don't get fired for being wrong, Like Matt Eberflus

794
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: just got fired, you know what I mean, Like, like

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Speaker 1: he's got to sell his house and move now, he'll

796
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: be fine. I'm not asking you to like play a

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00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: violin for the guy made millions and millions of dollars.

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00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: He'll be fine. But still, like there were consequences for

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00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: him not being good, Like they're not consequences for me

800
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: being wrong about a prediction about the Philadelphia Eagles, like

801
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: be entertaining, own up to it, keep it moving, come

802
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: back the next day. So I'm with you media people who,

803
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: especially in the opinions, who cannot deal with criticism. I

804
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: think it's crazy. Now, obviously there are lines that should

805
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: not be crossed, racial slurs, threats. Obviously, people of color

806
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: get it worse. Women get it worse. This is all documented.

807
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: I remember once it's like there was a study like

808
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: negative feedback outweighs positive feedback by like thirty to one.

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00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: You don't call your cable company and said cable's working great,

810
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: Like you call when there's a problem, So the discourse

811
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: of the feedback is going to skew negative. So that's

812
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: all of that part. The other thing about the thing

813
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: about Blue Sky is like, so I squatted on a username.

814
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: I haven't posted once. I don't do anything. I'm just like,

815
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Speaker 1: in case this becomes big, I don't want anyone else

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Speaker 1: to be Danny Parkins on Blue Sky. I have my username,

817
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: and I'm going to be in this at this point

818
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: longer than you are, right just by eight. So I'm

819
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Speaker 1: just trying to like, I don't know where it's all

820
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Speaker 1: going to go, but I'm trying to be prepared for

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Speaker 1: where it does. My thought on the liberal move to

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00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Blue Sky was I understan stood the desire to like

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Speaker 1: form your own team and like consolidate your own team,

824
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Speaker 1: but like it's a it's not like a conservative can't

825
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Speaker 1: sign up for Blue Sky. There's no pre rest, So

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Speaker 1: who's to say it's not going to turn into the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing and who's And by the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: not at all saying that the only people that are

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Speaker 1: negative were nasty on X are conservative. That is not

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But like, if lu Ski gets big,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people with diverse opinions and backgrounds and

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Speaker 1: actions and intentions are going to be on it. And

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00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: then the other thing is, aren't we bubbled and siloed enough?

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Speaker 1: That was my big thing about it. We all are

835
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Speaker 1: in our own feedback loop already, we all already have

836
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Speaker 1: our own algorithms, and like, yeah, the for utab is

837
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: clearly being influenced by the lunatic who bought X. But

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Speaker 1: like my Instagram reels when I search how to cast

839
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Speaker 1: iron or ribi, I then get way more Instagram reels

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Speaker 1: about steak like they're not They're not made from nothing,

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00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: And so I agree, like leaving the place where the

842
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: biggest public discourse on the Internet happens because you were

843
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: upset with the result, didn't feel like it would solve

844
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Speaker 1: a problem. It felt like it would make you feel better,

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00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: as opposed to working towards solving a problem. So if

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00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: you want to do it to feel better, fine, But

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00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: I also I don't really believe that most of these

848
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: people are like gone for good. We're addicted to these things. Yeah,

849
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: we are just addicted to them. I've checked my phone

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00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: twice since this interview started. Like it's hard, it's hard

851
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: to put it down, you know, not interview conversation, but

852
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: like it's just so I'm very skeptical of like Blue Sky,

853
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: like long term us feeling like we are just oh,

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Speaker 1: we just found a new one. People they'll be they'll

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Speaker 1: be on X, and if it gets big and replaces X,

856
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: then it will have the same problems that X hads. Yeah.

857
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: No, I the silo comments interesting because I joke with

858
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: my wife, she just every time I start this conversation,

859
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: like once a year, she said, stop it. I'll say

860
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: to her, I get free parking in Los Angeles and

861
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: a free smoothie every day at Fox. I did the

862
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: math on that. That's seventy two hundred dollars a year,

863
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: and she's like, I know what you make. That's the

864
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: dumbest thing I've heard. And I've said I always say

865
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: to her, do you understand if I stayed at a

866
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: company for twenty years, the value of free parking and

867
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: free smoothies and oat field and coffee at a company

868
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: and she and she said, I said, who gets that?

869
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: And I often think about that little thing. By the way,

870
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: I get my haircut for free haircut, smoothie, coffee, parking.

871
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: That sounds ridiculous. Do you know how many people, if

872
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: you could sign up for that in a city, would

873
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: literally fight over it?

874
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: And I do.

875
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: And I guess my point with my wife is I'm

876
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: never going to allow those to be forgotten. If people

877
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: got free parking in Chicago, they'd be like, honey, I

878
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: just got free parking in Chicago.

879
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: The greatest thing ever. Yeah. When I felt when I

880
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: filled in for you and they delivered that smoothie to

881
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: the dressing room, I was like. I texted my wife.

882
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I think it's smoothie. They asked for

883
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: my smoothie order and then it showed up. It was amazing.

884
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: We don't get we don't get free smoothies. By the way,

885
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: and Fox Sports one in New York, I I've asked,

886
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: we don't, we don't, we don't get free smoothies. You

887
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta put in a good word for me

888
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: out here. I need the free smoothie treatment from the

889
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: LA offices.

890
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: Well, that silo comment's real because I tell my wife

891
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: it's easy to forget the stuff I get every day

892
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: a staff like it's just something that most people would

893
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: fight over. A parking space in a major city could

894
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: be four thousand dollars a year for parking.

895
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, don't think that everybody who works on

896
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: breakfast ball like that drives in producers or what. It's

897
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: a huge thing for them, right, It's like very expensive

898
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: to park in New York City. And yeah, like we're

899
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: not on the Fox lot. But again, obviously I'm not complaining.

900
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: The jobs amazing and the perks are amazing, but yeah,

901
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: it's good to have perspective outside of your bubble. And

902
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: you made it about smoothies and free parking. But I

903
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: would also say, like there are very few people. There

904
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: are a couple. I'll admit that. I'm like, I just

905
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: want to mute you because I don't want to see

906
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 1: like your intentionally divisive, mean spirited, racist, hateful rhetoric come

907
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: into my timeline because it just there's there's just negative

908
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: ROI on it, right, like for mental health happiness, I'll

909
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: go down a rabbit hole. It'll make me upset and

910
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: now I'm just angry, So like that was just I've

911
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: definitely done that with some people. Yeah, but I do

912
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: try to understand people who disagree with me. I do

913
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: to read sites and people and feeds and interact with

914
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: things that like challenge my worldview because it's a big,

915
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: messy diverse country and a big messy, diverse, diverse world.

916
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: Like if you only consume all the stuff that you

917
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: already agree with, like, what's the point. Yeah, you know

918
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I want to learn, I want

919
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: to understand. I want to hold the same one some

920
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: gaps like it. It. I don't believe that, like people

921
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: who disagree with me are like bad people inherently. I

922
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: think some of them are, and some are at least

923
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: motivated by some bad stuff. But like, generally speaking, people

924
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: want to be healthy, provide for their family, have happy,

925
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: healthy kids, and like get along with their neighbors. So

926
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, let's try to understand each other and

927
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: meet in the middle somewhere. So that's how I try

928
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: to operate. But some people, Man, you got to mute,

929
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: you got to have a site about your day. Yeah no, no,

930
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: I know you do. I know you do. And we're

931
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: we're meandering here. This is a very abstract conversation. But

932
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: I like apps. That's why podcasts work. No, that's true,

933
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: that's true. I just I don't know how much deconstruction

934
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: of the election you've done as to like why it

935
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: went the way that it did.

936
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, I believe me. I so

937
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: I'll throw this at you. When an election happens. Every

938
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: four years, of federal election, I go to the losing

939
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: team because all winners act the same, cocky, condescending told.

940
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: You we were right.

941
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go to the losing side. So when Trump lost,

942
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: I went to Fox News for three weeks. I don't

943
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: watch a lot of cable politics outside of like election

944
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: day or midterm day, So I went to Fox. So

945
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: I went to MSNBC for three weeks. And I told

946
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: a friend, I said, I don't think ms MSNBC has bathrooms,

947
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: because nobody there is looking in the mirror. It's like

948
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: a real problem. First it was racism, and I'm like, no,

949
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: Obama had two terms, could have one a third. Then

950
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: it was misogyny. No, Hillary Clinton won the popular election.

951
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: And what I found on MSNBC, and again I don't

952
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: I'm not taking sides here. I don't watch a lot

953
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: of either of this stuff. I think Steve Karneck he's

954
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: very good an election night, and so I leaned toward him.

955
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: But by and large I don't care. Even though I

956
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: work for Fox, I tend to be a moderate, socially left,

957
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: fiscally right. But what I did find is there is

958
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: there's an inability by both sides when they lose, to

959
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: discover why they lost. And I'll I'll and I'll give

960
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: you that's that's my first take is it's I'll give

961
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: you an example, a sports example about the election. So

962
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: every weekend in the NFL there's three blowouts. Does that

963
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: mean there's three great teams?

964
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: No, definitely, No.

965
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: It means there's lots of crappy teams. There's a lot

966
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 2: of average politicians, average candidates, average teams, average coaches. There's

967
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: almost no great college football this year. One hundred and

968
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: thirty Division one teams. There's no great team, not one.

969
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 2: Tennis any one point. Federi Jokovic, Nadal in the whole

970
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: world regreats a lot of goods. Serena, you know Martina

971
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: in her prime, that was one of two. Right. So

972
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: my take on the election was if you go back

973
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: to Reagan winning and he had like a record turnout

974
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: record support. Why because Jimmy Carter was one of our

975
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: weakest presidents and Mondale when he ran against him, was

976
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: a really, really weak candidate, and Reagan was charismatic. So

977
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: it was as much about Reagan, whose first three years

978
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: in office were not profound. He struggled right, it took

979
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: him a while, but it was about a charismatic personality

980
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: who had been an actor and really weak opposition Trump.

981
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: And it's as the total votes have come in, it's

982
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 2: not the mandate we many people subscribe to. But cop

983
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: think about this with Kamalo, even in California, never heard

984
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: of her until the twenty nineteen primaries, of which he

985
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: had no coalition, didn't get me votes, and because of

986
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: the emergence of TikTok and Biden's decline, he dominated the

987
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: news cycle for three and a half years. She was invisible.

988
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: They gave her the border. I'm not sure she went

989
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: to it. She was invisible. Then Biden stubbornly was kicked

990
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: to the curb very late in the process. She came

991
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: in and for three to four weeks the primary issue

992
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: was where'd she go? So Trump has the biggest personal.

993
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 1: Brand in America. As a human being.

994
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: She was largely invisible as a vice president, as they're

995
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: prone to be, but the age and TikTok, Instagram, I mean,

996
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: Biden was everywhere. And so this came down to she

997
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: wasn't a terribly strong candidate and he had charisma and

998
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: a brand. Even in high school elections, the popular good

999
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: looking or the popular funny kid wins, right, And so

1000
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: they gave her the border.

1001
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: That was it. She didn't do a good job with

1002
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: the border.

1003
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: That was the vice president's get one one thing to

1004
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: put their arms around.

1005
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: She kind of butchered that.

1006
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: So to me, yeah, instead of being MSNBC just acknowledging

1007
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: she wasn't a great candidate, He's a big brand with

1008
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: a lot of bluster. Instead, it was these branches of

1009
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 2: the tree. And I'm like, oh, this is painful. That

1010
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: was my long winded take.

1011
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that the you know, anyone who says

1012
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: they know exactly what happened right after an election is wrong, right, Like,

1013
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: there's one hundred and fifty million votes, people, genders, races,

1014
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: income classes, they're not monoliths. They don't only vote for

1015
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: one reason. People generalize it. You've got to actually like

1016
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: crunch the numbers and the data and like come to conclusions.

1017
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: It takes time. I listened to the uh Podsave America

1018
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 1: podcast with the Kamala campaign manager and like a couple

1019
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: of advisors, and it was just infuriating. It. It was

1020
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: just they were just complimenting themselves on how great they

1021
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: did and how Cask was and listen, maybe it was impossible.

1022
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: Maybe Trump was too big of a brand, people were

1023
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: feeling inflation too much, Biden was too unpopular, and it

1024
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: was one hundred and seven days and she was a

1025
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: vice president for an unpopular president in a tough economy,

1026
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe it was impossible. Maybe it was impossible

1027
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: for her to win in that timing, in that circumstance.

1028
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: But God, did they have a lot of like, well,

1029
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: we had to do this, and we ran this, and

1030
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: we raised the record amount of this, and we had

1031
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: to define this and we got on this and we

1032
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: couldn't do everything, and we tried to do this and

1033
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: it was because of this and we did. I was like,

1034
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: do you not have thumbs? Can you point a thumb?

1035
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: Can anyone point a thumb? I was just pointing fingers

1036
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: and it's just like excuses and we did this, and

1037
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: I was so proud of this, and they were so

1038
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: good at this. I was like, you weren't great because

1039
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: you didn't flip a single county. Stop telling me how

1040
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: great you did. Just take some acountability, take your loss,

1041
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: learn from it and right and move on. And so,

1042
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, I hope they do. I don't think it's

1043
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: as doom and gloom as everybody else seems. I never know.

1044
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: It's very cyclical. It'll go back and forth, back and forth.

1045
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: The Reagan example is probably the most famous one, right,

1046
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: like forty nine states, like it's it so yeah, but man,

1047
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: just a little bit more accountability would be nice, Yes,

1048
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: a little bit more, a little bit more accountability would

1049
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: be nice. Yeah, But I do think it's much more

1050
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: fascinating to watch the losing side try to discover their issues.

1051
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 2: And it's fascinating to me how infrequently and how long

1052
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: it takes and how infrequently they do. And James Carville

1053
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: and Bill Maher I think, have been closer to the

1054
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: reality of it. But it was just a lot of

1055
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: race and misogyny, and it's like guys mirrors look in them.

1056
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: Stop blaming the voters look.

1057
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: In the mirror. I think there's a lot of that.

1058
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: And by the way, that's the thing that's true in

1059
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: sports too. The most interesting story is often in the

1060
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: losing locker room. Who blew it, who choked? Who's getting

1061
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: traded because of this, who's getting cut because of this,

1062
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: who's getting fired because of this? Like there's there's more.

1063
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: There are often more interesting stories and lessons to be

1064
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: learned from the losing side of a story.

1065
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: I think almost olways. In fact, when I do my

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Speaker 2: show in the morning, I try not to be negative.

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Speaker 2: So this morning I led with the twelve team college bracket, uh,

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Speaker 2: kind of defending the committee, being positive, defending the committee

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Speaker 2: Alabama choice. And then I went to the idea, which

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Speaker 2: is kind of uplifting if you're a Bears fan, that

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Speaker 2: let's go for it and get Kyle Shanahan. But I've

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Speaker 2: had days. I had a day about two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: or the first four stories. It was a Monday, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, God.

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Speaker 1: I'm just hurping.

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Speaker 2: And I remember like taking two of my stories early

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Speaker 2: and just put them in the last hour. I'm like, God,

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing me out. After these first three stories.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we do. But I think that's actually

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01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: a good sports media criticism. Like I think that I

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01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: think that people have like gotten tired of the Chiefs

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01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: on some level, like they're very popular, Like the data

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Speaker 1: doesn't say that, but I'm saying, like it's almost becoming vogue,

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Speaker 1: and they're playing close games. They're not as dominant this year,

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01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: like on field questions and criticisms of close games against

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01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: Vegas and Carolina and all that is totally doubt. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying it's not, but we should strive to and

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01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: I try to and continue to try to. And we're

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Speaker 1: sixty eight shows in or whatever we are into breakfast Ball,

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01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: so hopefully I've got a long road ahead of me

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Speaker 1: to like back up these words with actions. But like

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Speaker 1: it's fun to appreciate stuff and be like how cool

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01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: was that? How great of a play was that? Like

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01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: we are watching You're like Daniel Jones sucks, like I guess,

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01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: but he's actually awesome, Like he sucks compared to Patrick Mahomes.

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01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to be my team's quarterback, but if

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01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: you if he was the Syracuse football quarterback next week,

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01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: they'd go on a run, they'd win a bunch of games.

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01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: So I do think there's a little bit more room too.

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01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: It's easy to talk about what's wrong with Phil and

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01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: the blank team as opposed to making it interesting of

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01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: why the Lions are crushing everybody, Like we just as

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Speaker 1: a collective, I think we should try our best to

1104
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: like appreciate sports and celebrate them. Not that you can't

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01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: be negative, not that you can't take an ax to

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Speaker 1: something or call for a firing. It's all fine and good.

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01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: These guys get paid a bunch of money. It's it's

1108
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: the opinion business you should be But it's just a

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01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: It's a good, healthy thing to remember that, Like we

1110
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: should celebrate the champions. I get on Stinking Carton Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm like you guys just like you hate greatness. We're

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Speaker 1: rooting against the Chiefs, Like are you crazy? Like Andy Reid,

1113
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes track, these guys are unlikable in some way. No,

1114
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Speaker 1: they're awesome. They're historic. Like we've never seen a three

1115
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: pet You don't want to see it? Why I want

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01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: to see it. I want to see the three. I

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01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: want to see the greatness that I've never seen before.

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Speaker 1: I'm not tired of it yet.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that pushes back on that for me

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Speaker 2: is I feel bad for Buffalo. I'd like to see

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Speaker 2: Buffalo win one. Had Buffalo won before Kansas City went

1122
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 2: on this run, I'd love to see a three peace.

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Speaker 1: But listen, I I called Josh Allen MVP before the year.

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Speaker 1: I said he was the second best player in football

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Speaker 1: before the year, and I picked him to win the

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Speaker 1: division before the year when few people did, like I

1127
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Speaker 1: think he is. It is so I think I said

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Speaker 1: this on your pond a few visits ago, like he

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Speaker 1: is so very clearly the closest thing to Mahomes. And

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Speaker 1: that's not like a one year sample the eighteen interceptions

1131
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Speaker 1: last year to not change my pinion, like going back

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two. Now, it is very clear to

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Speaker 1: me that it is Mahomes one, Allen two, and so

1134
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Speaker 1: he will get one. I will root for the three

1135
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: peat this year. But part of that is also my

1136
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: mom's family's from Kansas City. I worked there, I was

1137
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Speaker 1: there when they hired Andy Reid, So part of that

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01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: is like a personal tie and bias and Chiefs fans

1139
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: and Arrowhead and all of that. So yeah, Josh Allen,

1140
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo and those fans that would also be an excellent story.

1141
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: Obviously the Lions would be an excellent story. But I'm

1142
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: not tired of the greatness yet. From the chiefs. I

1143
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: liked Tiger, I liked Michael Jordan. You know, Brady did

1144
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: get a little ridiculous to me. I will admit that

1145
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,479
Speaker 1: it's like the one because it was just it's like, dude,

1146
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: you're winning when you're in your forties.

1147
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Speaker 2: Well, I even had Lebron and Brady fatigue.

1148
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Speaker 1: Two decades is a little much, Yeah.

1149
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: But Tiger Tiger's ten years go back in YouTube. Tiger

1150
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Speaker 2: at the US Open Pebble Beach. You could watch the

1151
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Speaker 2: entire final round if you had three hours. It's insane.

1152
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Speaker 1: My listen, my dad didn't golf, and I love golf

1153
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: because of Tiger Woods. Like I'm of that age, right,

1154
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm born in eighty six, so I'm eleven years

1155
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: old in ninety seven when he wins the Masters, like

1156
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: he was, Like, it was a phenomenon. It was Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 1: it was It was incredibly influential to watch that level

1158
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Speaker 1: of greatness. Like Caitlin Clark is creating women's basketball fans,

1159
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: like Tiger Woods created golf fans. There's cult of personality,

1160
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: figures in that level of dominance that I'll always be that,

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01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: I'll always be Bones Jones. I hadn't bought UFC Fights

1162
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: in a while. I love the UFC Bones Jones Fights.

1163
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: I buy the card one hundred percent. Like there's like

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Speaker 1: I am attracted to greatness almost universally.

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Speaker 2: Danny Parkins Breakfast Ball FS one, good Talk.

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Speaker 1: Anybody you said once a month, anytime, buddy, you know

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Speaker 1: that I'm available anytime.

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