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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touchdown Chargers. What's Up? Guys? Welcome

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Speaker 1: into a week sixteen edition of Chargers Weekly. We are

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Speaker 1: presented by Splittero as always, joined by the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, Matt Muddy Smith Money. I would urge people

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Speaker 1: before they watched this podcast, go watch the mini movie, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fifteen to eighteen minutes. I wish it was

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Speaker 1: thirty five minutes. Probably could have been thirty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I was thinking about this

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest win in the Jim Harbaugh era, but

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Speaker 1: going back to just twenty seventeen to move to Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there was a bigger.

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Speaker 2: Win, fair question, you know, considering the Chiefs were already

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Speaker 2: in the midst of their run with Alex Smith. Remember

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Speaker 2: Patrick mahomes first ever start was against the Chargers. It

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Speaker 2: was a week win, Week one game, and since he's

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Speaker 2: become their starters seven straight AFC Championship games dominated the

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Speaker 2: AFC West. I think it was fifty two and eleven

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Speaker 2: going into that game against the Chargers, and they're the

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Speaker 2: ones that ended, you know, and they didn't just end it,

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Speaker 2: they ended it by accounting for twenty five percent of

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Speaker 2: their losses this season. You know the fact that they

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Speaker 2: got them in week one and and you know, to

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Speaker 2: set the tone for the year, and then got him

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Speaker 2: in week fifteen to end it. You hate to see

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Speaker 2: the Patrick Mahomes injury. That sucks, but sounds like he's

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Speaker 2: you know, good surgery and he's expecting to be back

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Speaker 2: for Week one, so that's good.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to you know, it's this one bigger than

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Speaker 2: the one against the Eagles Monday night.

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Speaker 1: You don't have any prison the moment.

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Speaker 2: I get, but I know what you mean, like because

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Speaker 2: for all intents and purposes, there's still a little bit

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Speaker 2: of work to be done. I know, harbod you know,

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Speaker 2: slapped me upside the head if you heard me say it.

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Speaker 2: They're they're in the playoffs. It feels like with the

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Speaker 2: conference record, they needed that AFC win. They got it,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, it was it was big. It felt big,

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Speaker 2: like that's what we set out to do. They're the

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Speaker 2: division champs. In order to beat the division champs, you

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Speaker 2: got to knock out the reigning champs, and they were

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Speaker 2: able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think just the parallel Pas you said it. You know,

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Speaker 1: mahomes first start was against the Chargers, and ever since

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Speaker 1: the Bolts moved up to LA, I mean, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: have been the class of the division, the class of

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Speaker 1: Derwin James intercepts Gardner Minshew but basically runs Travis Kelcey's

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Speaker 1: route for him, the way that that game ended, the

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Speaker 1: way that the Chiefs dynasty, you know, this iteration of

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Speaker 1: the last time we saw Mahomes and Kelsey on the

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Speaker 1: field together. We've seen so many of these games, and

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Speaker 1: that's why I was kind of racking my brain. I

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Speaker 1: remember twenty eighteen, exactly seven years ago, my favorite call

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Speaker 1: remember the Pittsburgh game in twenty eighteen, the Baltimore playoff game.

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Speaker 1: This one felt different because it almost signaled like this

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Speaker 1: is why they brought Jim Harbaugh in right to kind

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Speaker 1: of turn the tide with the Chargers kind of a

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Speaker 1: pivot point maybe in the division. And yes, that Eagles

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Speaker 2: For me, I think when you mentioned Jim Harbaugh, to me,

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Speaker 2: it's the style that they played, right, It's the fact

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Speaker 2: And I know I say it to a point that

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Speaker 2: just My connection with Harbaugh was calling all those Stanford

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Speaker 2: I think that's what we're seeing over these since the buy.

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Speaker 2: what Derwin James Khalil Mack. You just think of these

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Speaker 2: what this Charger team is now, that this is with

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Speaker 2: the way they're playing K Mack and O Way and

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Speaker 2: Tuley and DP had some big hits in that game too.

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Speaker 2: Starting to coalesce, and it's starting to crystallize into kind

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Speaker 1: Let's stay with the defense, We'll get into the offense

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Speaker 1: and just kind of the style of play that they've

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Speaker 1: big games mean. The violence in which he played the

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Speaker 1: Rashi Right. Tough day for Rashi Rice at the office,

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Speaker 1: the hit that Tony laid on Rashi Rice, the hit

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Speaker 1: physicality that you know you see in doses, but that

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Speaker 1: game almost, like you said, almost kind of crystalized who

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Speaker 1: this team is and who they plan to be in December.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know you don't You've never really heard

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Speaker 2: and it speaks to the fact that he was not

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Speaker 2: Jesse was calling coverages like there was it was when

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Speaker 2: it's just a it's a pot peri man, it's a salad.

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Speaker 2: It's some cover six, some quarters, some cover two, some

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Speaker 1: These guys are small, they're fast, so Hollywood Brown, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like they're not They're not like professional receiver.

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Speaker 2: They're not I want, I don't want to denigrate them

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Speaker 2: like there's not winners, you know, like they're not man

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Speaker 2: So like that hit man, both of them, the Tony

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Speaker 2: and Dirret to your point, some of that's on Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Some of that's on Mahomes to see, oh wow, I

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Speaker 2: and I cannot throw him over the middle right, Oh

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Speaker 2: it was Patrick Mahomes that put his receiver in that

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Speaker 2: the fact of to the fact of how uncomfortable and

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Speaker 2: just sort of unsettled he was that whole game with

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Speaker 1: Ye. You know that first drive they were even hit

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Speaker 1: They couldn't run the football. Tully and Oa were menaces

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Speaker 1: would have to imagine. Yeah, I don't know, but but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the run is a big part of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so as the Chargers, and no one's making excuses for

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Speaker 2: that's that's the sort of stuff that builds into the postseason, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: We're putting Penny out there now, and look how that's working.

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Speaker 2: AFC West against the Broncos in Week eighteen. Like, I

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Speaker 2: just feel like this team has found a rhythm. They

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Speaker 2: we gave them one. The Chargers gave them. The Chargers

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Speaker 2: so important man, when the playoffs roll around to kind

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Speaker 1: Don't many idea and Kim Dicker of course Special Teams

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to see what coach Roman is going

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Speaker 2: can score. You know they can score. They just allow

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Speaker 1: They've just been outscored. You know.

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Speaker 1: And I expect him to do that.

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Speaker 2: like the past to Gadsden where you know he's rolling

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Speaker 2: do think you're gonna have to score some points. So

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Speaker 2: I expect to see Herbert throw the ball a little

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Speaker 2: more than we've seen, and I'm anxious to see because like,

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Speaker 1: For twenty yards in the game, on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And just not routes were used to seeing just kind

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Speaker 2: watching him go downfield like NonStop, and it's like, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: Get lad on these quick hitters. Man.

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Speaker 2: I miss seeing him just kind of wig a lot

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Speaker 1: by design. First five plays of the game running the football,

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Speaker 1: gonna control the clock. That's not excusing, not using lad m maconkey,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's That's sort of what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 2: I've always felt this way. You know, the whole position

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Speaker 2: get the win? And yeah, that's fair. But you know,

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Speaker 2: Like it's it's it's a huge acquisition by by je

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Speaker 2: But look, Dak leads the league in passing. Dak leads

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Speaker 1: You know, each week you would hope that Justin's hand

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Speaker 1: just more quick games? Can you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: but it's also you know, Joe Worts, he's kind of

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Speaker 1: pressing the right buttons and pulling the right levers throughout

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Speaker 1: the course of the season that that has really got

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Speaker 1: this team in a position to get their eleventh win

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Speaker 1: on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: As you say it, so I'm pulling it up. Here

435
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Speaker 2: are Joe Ortiz's two draft classes. Amarion Hampton, Trey Harris,

436
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Speaker 2: Jamari Caldwell, hit hit KeAndre Lambert, Smith, Aronde Gadston, r J. Mickens,

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Speaker 2: Joe alt Lad McConkey, Justin a Boybee, Tarheeb Still, cam Hart,

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Speaker 2: Kimani Vaidel. Like that's just two draft classes.

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Speaker 1: You were funny at Bridges. Bridges is going to is

440
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Speaker 1: placed with the Cowboys, right who they cut, and Nico

441
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Speaker 1: Reid is the guy that they said, okay, we're we're

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Speaker 1: happy with the UDF.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, these are all guys that are contributing

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Speaker 2: every single Sunday that are either in their first year

445
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Speaker 2: or their second. One two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

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Speaker 2: eleven twelve guys from two draft classes that are all

447
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Speaker 2: either starting or contributing. Like that's unheard of. It's one

448
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Speaker 2: thing you know, you hit on your first round or

449
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Speaker 2: great you better you know hit on your second round

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Speaker 2: or super important third rounder.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's see what you got.

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Speaker 2: Like twelve guys in two draft classes are like you said, impact,

453
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Speaker 2: not just oh they're out there for ten snaps or so.

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Speaker 2: No impact players the great majority of those. And that's

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Speaker 2: how you can afford to make Justin Herbert the highest

456
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Speaker 2: paid player in the league when you sign that contract.

457
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Speaker 2: That's why Derwin's contract is gonna get redone probably this offseason. Sorry,

458
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Speaker 2: Spano's family, You're gonna spend some money. But it's why

459
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Speaker 2: Tully's gonna be resigned. Why always going to be resigned?

460
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Speaker 2: Because you have all this youth on rookie deals that

461
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Speaker 2: can afford you to make those deals. And if k

462
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: Mack wants to come back, you can pay all three

463
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Speaker 2: of those guys. You can pay all three of those guys.

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Speaker 2: And I think you do Twu Lee a year early,

465
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Speaker 2: you know, because why not save some money on the

466
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Speaker 2: overall you know, the way it fits into the overall cap.

467
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Speaker 2: By having that fourth year you know, included.

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Speaker 1: In that deal. He's been a mad man. It's too incredible, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You know, I remember sitting with Ryan Ficken in the

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Speaker 1: off season with you, and I think Jilliel was with

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Speaker 1: us too, and we're talking about Kls. You know, KALs

472
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Speaker 1: didn't play special teams at all. Burt, he didn't play

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Speaker 1: any special teams. And I want to give DJ and Baldi.

474
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Speaker 1: I was listening to move the sticks and they talked

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Speaker 1: about maybe the turning point in the game was that

476
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Speaker 1: that kick return to even get them in a position.

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Speaker 2: Did he did he share what we were saying before

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Speaker 2: the kick return? No, how stupid we are, What did

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Speaker 2: you say? I just you know, we were talking about how,

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Speaker 2: you know, the injury to Darius and he hasn't been

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Speaker 2: right this year, and you know, Assn Hass and Nahim

482
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Speaker 2: Miller Hines was really the only guy that's had an

483
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Speaker 2: explosive kick return. And you know, Lambert Smith does not

484
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Speaker 2: really look comfortable. He keeps kind of you know, gearing down,

485
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Speaker 2: and he's getting stopped inside the thirty at like the

486
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Speaker 2: twenty five, and you know they're trying to work through

487
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Speaker 2: it and get him used more reps and you know, man,

488
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: this is this is where you could really use someone

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Speaker 2: that's comfortable returning Annie.

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Speaker 1: It's like there is let me show you something you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen before. Exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's the anti announcer jinks. As we're complaining about the

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Speaker 2: lack of a legitimate returner, here comes Kale last forty

494
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Speaker 2: yarder to set it up.

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Speaker 1: Think about how pivotal the last minute that first half

496
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Speaker 1: was to say, okay, all right, you put us in

497
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Speaker 1: field goal range baseball, try to get a few more yards.

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Speaker 1: The catch that Trey Harris had on the sideline was reviewed.

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Speaker 1: I honestly, I admittedly thought that he didn't catch it, Okay.

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Speaker 1: On the replay, we were all talking to some of

501
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Speaker 1: the beats in the press box like I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, I thought he had it because he had

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Speaker 1: his arm under it. Well, not enough evidence enough stands. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so overturn and then two plays later KALs again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's just and it's funny.

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Speaker 2: We thought that one might not be a touchdown, and

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Speaker 2: when they banged the time out, we're like, no, don't,

508
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Speaker 2: don't bang the time out because if you notice the

509
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Speaker 2: ball shifts a little bit as he's.

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Speaker 1: Going out of bounds.

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Speaker 2: But I think the way it looked was he had

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Speaker 2: it secured when both feet came down, and then it

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Speaker 2: kind of it was just very It was it was

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Speaker 2: one of those they're like, oh god, this is so huge.

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Speaker 2: It's thirty seconds that you're down thirteen to three, and

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Speaker 2: now all of a sudden you have all the momentum

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Speaker 2: going into half because you have the ball coming out

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Just just think of the August that we had here,

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Speaker 1: We had kls here, he hit an awesome preseason and

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Speaker 1: then you just, frankly, you didn't need them because Quentin's healthy.

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Speaker 1: Everybody stayed relatively healthy in that wide receivers room. But

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Speaker 1: week fifteen in Kansas City, you have, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of your young bucks step up and get that huge

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Speaker 1: touchdown to make it thirteen ten at the half in

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Speaker 1: a completely different ball game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they play it

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Speaker 2: moving forward, you know, because they have been searching for

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Speaker 2: that second returner. Now, look, if Darius isn't ready, then

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Speaker 2: it makes it easy, you know. But I think it's

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Speaker 2: fair to say, you know that we know what Darius

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Speaker 2: Davis can look like. You know, when he's when he's right,

533
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Speaker 2: and he just has not quite been right this year.

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Speaker 2: You know, that game against the Eagles was sort of

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Speaker 2: a telltale sign for me. When you can out run

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Speaker 2: a tight end and this is a guy that's got

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Speaker 2: world class, you know, track speed, and so you kind

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Speaker 2: of knew, like, okay, something's not quite right with him.

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Speaker 2: So I'm anxious to see how they want to play it,

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Speaker 2: you know, this week, because they need it. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think I think it's such a big advantage as

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Speaker 2: people are still trying to get comfortable with this dynamic

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Speaker 2: kick return. When you have someone that can that can

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Speaker 2: get you that extra first down instead of the thirty

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Speaker 2: puts you at the forty, it's a huge advantage.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break on the other side, we'll

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Speaker 1: com slash Chargers so money. We just talked about kind

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Speaker 1: of the first turning point in the game, the last

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Speaker 1: minute of that first half, and I think the second

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Speaker 1: turning point was the Tony Jefferson ejection, which I don't

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Speaker 1: know what he can do. I don't know what you do.

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Speaker 1: It's a bang bang play, but it got Arrowhead fired up.

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Speaker 1: And then a couple of plays later, Dayon Henley basically

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Speaker 1: runs the route for Patrick Mahome route. I had to

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Speaker 1: look this up because I remember he played a little

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Speaker 1: bit of offense at Nevada. First two years at Nevada, seventeen catches,

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Speaker 1: two hundred thirtywo yards and three touchdowns. He looked like

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver to be on that play. Yeah he was.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny, you know, you look at the box

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Speaker 2: and you see day On four tackles, one solo, the interception,

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Speaker 2: and it just felt like there was so much more

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Speaker 2: than that, and the way that like it was wild

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Speaker 2: to watch the way Jesse was doing it. My spotder Craig,

573
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: you know, whenever I'm calling the game he'll he'll give

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Speaker 2: me this in my face when there's you know, dime

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00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: coverage when you got sick, and I felt like he

576
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: was doing it a lot in that game. So a

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00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: lot of that game was just coach min are rushing

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00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: for Dayan's your your linebacker and he's got six defensive

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Speaker 2: backs or you know, Derwin was playing a little bit

580
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Speaker 2: of that dimebacker role. So the like the thing with

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Speaker 2: Dayan is he was spying Mahomes. He was sidelined to

582
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: sideline that whole game. Man. He was like that was

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Speaker 2: the other reason why Mahomes couldn't quite get comfortable on

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Speaker 2: the inner on the what game?

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Speaker 1: What play was it? I can't remember what play.

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00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: I might have been the play right before the interception

587
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: he ran Mahomes out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: Thought it.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes thought he was going to be able to get

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Speaker 2: the corner and uh Dayon ran him out of bounds.

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00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: So just a heck of a game by him, man,

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Speaker 2: And like you said, to be able to as a linebacker.

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Speaker 2: That's what they want, right they want Kareem hunt on

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00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: a linebacker on a wheel route with Mahomes throwing and

595
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: having time to throw and Khalil Mack pressured him. You know,

596
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: Kalil Mack was right in his lap. So it's like

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00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: one of those we keep talking about it, right, the

598
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: complimentary you know, make sure the front end of the

599
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: back end are attached and now you've got front end

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Speaker 2: pressure and back ends ready to make the play. And man,

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00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: it was a beautiful interception. And they just keep coming

602
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: up with them, you know that's the thing. Yeah, two

603
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: in this one, thinking about last week against the Eagles

604
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: with Tony to seal the game. Like their's four of

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00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: them total, right, like this team, it's why again to

606
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: push it forward to Dallas. It's what's going to make

607
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: it interesting is Dak likes to throw the ball downfield.

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00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: These are explosive passing plays that he's making. They're not

609
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: dinking dunks. I'm gonna push the ball downfield. Good luck

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00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: stopping my guys, And I don't know if there's a

611
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: better defense in the league at preventing that. That is

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00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: what the Chargers are best at. You might get him

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00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: here or there, but it is you might find a

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00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: busted coverage somewhere if the pass rush doesn't get home

615
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: and a guy breaks free. But for the most part,

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Speaker 2: when you're trying to push this ball downfield, it's just

617
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: not there. So it's gonna it's you know, styles make

618
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: the fight man, And and this is gonna be a

619
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Speaker 2: good one between coach Minner and coach Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 1: The fact that Kansas City could have easily kicked a

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Speaker 1: field goal on that series two like to tie the game. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's that's That's the one thing you notice about this

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Speaker 1: this Chargers defense is that when he gets tight, like

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00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: especially like the overtime, you know, Jalen Hurts gets picked

625
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: off by Tony at the two. You know. So this

626
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: the way that this defense has been flying around the

627
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: last three weeks specifically, Man, something something switched after Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was just something as

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Speaker 1: simple as like we needed a week off because of

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Speaker 1: everything that they've been through in terms of traveling and everything.

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Speaker 1: But just I don't I can't really put my finger

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Speaker 1: on it. It just seems like this defense is completely

633
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Speaker 1: different from the defense that we saw in Duval County.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I do think a lot of it's schematic too.

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00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: I feel like they're playing a lot more, man, I

636
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: feel like they're mixing up their coverages a lot.

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Speaker 1: More Popperress hardball about the fact that they're playing a

638
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: little bit more. They are not much to it, but

639
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: our guys can do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing you're seeing is just

641
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Speaker 2: like we talked about that three man rotation before, I

642
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Speaker 2: felt like it was more hockey substitution style. It was

643
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: here's Tuley and Khalil, here's Oway and Bud. And I

644
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: think now we're kind of seeing him settle on. It's Khalil,

645
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: Toulee and o Way and it's just a rotation between

646
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: those three and two of them are always on the field,

647
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: and I think that's and it's meant more snaps for Oway.

648
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: And I think you're starting to see like he is

649
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: a world class athlete at that defensive end position. You're

650
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: talking like when you just when you see him, there's

651
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: certain guys that you want getting off the bus first.

652
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: Always a guy you want getting off the bus first.

653
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: I mean, he's long, he's bendy. That's that first sack

654
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: he had on Mahomes. Holy cow, man, it was like

655
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: watching a running back with a jump cut. The way

656
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: he dusted that tackle and was just in Mahomes lap

657
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: like nothing from the edge. It was impressive. So I

658
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: think that's a big part of it. I feel like

659
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: with Hurtz and with with Patrick Mahomes, there was he

660
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: was using Dayan as that spy a little more. I

661
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: feel like he's using Dan a little bit differently, tapping

662
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: into his, you know, his talents a little bit more

663
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: and asking him to do things a little bit differently.

664
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: There's more day At Denzel Peraman out there to kind

665
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: of be that that physical guy, and Dyan can kind

666
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: of play a little more of that safety linebacker sideline

667
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: to sideline style. And then I think just leaning into Tony,

668
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: I feel like you're you're seeing him think about Tony

669
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: out of stretch that we didn't plays, you know, in acting.

670
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: So it's it's I feel like having Tony out there

671
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: has changed the way this defense plays a lot. There's

672
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: just again they're bullies, man, There's more physicality, and I

673
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: just think how cerebral Tony is helps a lot help,

674
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: you know. And so I do think that it's not

675
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: just I absolutely agree with you that there was probably

676
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: some meetings of this is not who we are, Let's

677
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: get back to who we are. And but I do

678
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: think Credit could and I just I say it to

679
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: Credit coach Minter. I think he really probably did a

680
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: deep dive and dug into it and said, all right,

681
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: what are we doing what? Because it's I think about

682
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: when he sat with us and he said, you know,

683
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: you can't. You never want to be the guy that says, hey,

684
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: this is my scheme fit in. You want to be

685
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: the guy that looks at what do I have and

686
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: how can I maximize what they do best? And I

687
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: think that's what he did. And you're seeing cam Hart

688
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: play a lot more man and be able to bully

689
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: a lot more and use that length and that physicality

690
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: that he's have and that's allowed guys to get home.

691
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: You know, I just felt like in the Jacksonville game,

692
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: we were seeing guys getting free releases and cushion and

693
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: all that zone and it just felt like and guys,

694
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, two highs and ETN is just running free.

695
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: For eight nine.

696
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: I just felt it's felt so different. Yeah, the run

697
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: fits the way they're playing the run. It feels dramatically different.

698
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: I think of a lot. It's the way that it

699
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: looks pre snap as well.

700
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: You know, r J Mickens got banged up in that game.

701
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we'll see him on Sunday or not,

702
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: but just to kind of fall in line with the

703
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: veteran presence, you know, Molden should be back. Marcus Williams

704
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: has been the league for nine years. Signed Marcus May,

705
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: Marcus May, RCUs May our interception guy. Yeah, so you

706
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: have you have some some veterans in that secondary. You

707
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: can't say enough about the development of the two fifth

708
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: round secondary players in Hart and Targeb. I thought Dante Jackson.

709
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: I think he's been spectacular this year. You know, he

710
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: kind of filled the role of Christian Fulton and he's

711
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: he's excelling in that role. He's having a Pro Bowl year. Yeah.

712
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: I pulled up let me see if I can can

713
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: do it. I pulled up his numbers the other day.

714
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: And so if I go to all and I'll tell you, man,

715
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: like A, they don't target him. B when they do,

716
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: there's nothing there. So on the season, Dante has been

717
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: He's allowed a forty six percent completion rate. He's been

718
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: targeted in three hundred and seventy two covered snaps. He

719
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: has only been targeted forty three times. Wow, in three

720
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two snaps. The he's allowed just a

721
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: single touchdown. We know about the four interception.

722
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: He has.

723
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: Also, I'm trying to find the here we go, take

724
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: a guess what the opponent quarterback rating is when targeting

725
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: Dante Jackson this season. Twenty six point thirty one point five.

726
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm close close, I'm thirty one point five. Like you

727
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: can't throw on them. You know, he's been And that's

728
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: a two year deal, by the way, that George Ho's

729
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 2: did you think about and let's not forget man last

730
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: year Christian Fulton one year flyer deal and you we

731
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: had Joe sitting in this chair where I'm sitting right now,

732
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: and he said, hey, man, I'm happy for Christian. He

733
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: got paid, you know, or it was Jesse who said it.

734
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: He's like, you know what, I'm so happy for Christian,

735
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: you got it. I'm happy for Poona. They got their money.

736
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: Christian's inactive, he is a healthy scratch in Kansas City,

737
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: played well enough here to get a twenty million dollar deal.

738
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: And uh, and that's what we're seeing from Dante Jackson

739
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: in this time around, able to kind of give him

740
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: on a two year deal. So they're going to get

741
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: him next year again, which is which is huge.

742
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: Well, it would have been great to have Poona here,

743
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: you have hand it's been great, Tart, you have call Well,

744
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, you have this really nice rotation in the

745
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 1: trenches there and just truly, like I said, I can't

746
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 1: say enough about his development from his rookie year here

747
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: to who Jesse Minter has developed him into. Like he

748
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: he really was the guy that we had eyes on

749
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: this offseason when Joey left, like, is this the guy

750
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna pass retort to, Yeah, he's more than ready.

751
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: Twelve sacks already, Khalil's leadership a dafe away coming in

752
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: here and acting like he's been here for years. The defense,

753
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: you can't say enough, and there's I don't know how

754
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: many different ways we can talk about the importance of

755
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: Darwin James. You can't. He's too hard. I mean, it's

756
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: he can't be quantified. He's he's a gold jacket man.

757
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Khalil and Durwin are gold jackets. And the

758
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: way that that game ended with him going up to

759
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Kelsey and saying, I need that jersey. You just think

760
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: about all the battles that those guys have had since

761
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Derwin came to the league in twenty eighteen and for

762
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: that to maybe be the kind of the last interaction,

763
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty poetic. Yeah, it is.

764
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean it's earned because Kelsey got the better of

765
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 2: him enough times and Darwin's gotten the better of Kelsey

766
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: a number of times. And if that was going to

767
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: be the end of their run, I mean, certainly nothing

768
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: for Travis Kelsey to hang his head over. He's a

769
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer. He's going to go down

770
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: as perhaps the greatest pass catching tight end in the

771
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: history of the league. But yeah, it was fitting for

772
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: all the stuff they've been through to have Durwin not

773
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: just end the game, but end their run, to have

774
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: them missed the playoffs for the first time since twenty fourteen,

775
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: to sweep the team for the first time since what

776
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: was it, twenty thirteen, Like, yeah, that's how it was

777
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: supposed to end. And for Drwin after the game, I

778
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: think he was talking to you where he said, oh,

779
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: I knew exactly what they were doing. Yeah, I knew

780
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: exactly what was coming. And that speaks to you know,

781
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: coach Fuller, Coach Clink, Coach Minner and just having these

782
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: guys ready to go. Man, So it's they know what

783
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: they're looking at They know what's coming and they know

784
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: how to play it. And they saw it the week

785
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: before against the Eagles, and we saw it last week,

786
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: and now we're gonna hopefully see it against Cowboys.

787
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: Chargers fans still buzzn't. But at some point, I'm sure

788
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: it was Monday that this team had to turn the

789
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: page and get ready for Dallas because you got to

790
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: get your eleventh win. You still can't clinch a playoff

791
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: spot outright. You have to get some help I think

792
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: from the Niners out of the night. Yeah, but but

793
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: just spin it forward to to Dallas. You have a

794
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: you have an offensive line that's just gonna have to

795
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: hold up enough to have Justin Herbert throw the football

796
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: down the field. Yeah.

797
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: Like I said, their front's good. I know, Yesames Is

798
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: he was still in concussion protocol yesterday. I don't know,

799
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: And typically if you know you miss early, that's not

800
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: a good sign to be able to come back. So

801
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: I think it'll probably you know, you'll know today. I

802
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: think if Quinn, you know, at the time we're doing this,

803
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: their practice injury report has not been posted. But if

804
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: he's still out today, I think it'd be a long shot.

805
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: He's made a huge difference on huge.

806
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 2: I mean absolutely huge. So but they can get to you,

807
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: you know, they can get to you. The thing is

808
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: if you can hold up. Like I said, their coverage

809
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: on the back end not quite as sticky as it

810
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: should be, and that's where you're seeing a lot of

811
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: these plays be made where just stuff breaks down when

812
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: it gets off schedule a little bit. So to me,

813
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: I think they're still going to try to run the

814
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: heck out of the ball. I think they want to pound,

815
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: and that's their identity. I think moving forward is we

816
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: feel like we got two backs that can break you

817
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: at any time, and we can get these you know,

818
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: we'll get you threes and fours and fives in there.

819
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, here comes to twenty

820
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: six and here comes a fifty two and you.

821
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: Noticed so Marian kind of getting like this now getting

822
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: the sea legs exactly.

823
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: And so I think that's and then like the thing

824
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: is is then now you know we know how much

825
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: Justin likes play action, and now play action can work.

826
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: But I do think we're going to continue to see.

827
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: To me, I think that six offensive lineman is going

828
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: to be a thing moving forward. I'm as fifty percent

829
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: of the snaps that Trevor Penny was out there, and

830
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: I thought he played great, and the snaps that he

831
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: had to fill in for Makai Becton, So it'll be

832
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: interesting to see. And you know, even when he was

833
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: at guard for Mackay, what do we see here comes

834
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: Austin Deculus as the six offensive lineman. Like that's that's

835
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: something that Roman's feeling right now. And I like it

836
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: because to me, if you don't have Tucker Fisk, I

837
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: feel like that's a perfect way to mitigate, you know,

838
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: these tackles and and try to help them out and

839
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: and also you know, give you an extra beat in

840
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: in the in the pattern where Justin can find this

841
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: open receiver. And you know, like on that play that

842
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: that hit Gadsden, if you watch, you got Matt Locke

843
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: in motion and he's got Dana and Dana kind of

844
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: beats him right off the snap and Matt Locke able

845
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: to recover seals them off. And that's the path that

846
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: Herbert took to climb that pocket to throw that ball,

847
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: you know, for twenty six yards. So I think Matt

848
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: Lock's really improved, especially against the run.

849
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: I saw you. I saw you posted something on that play.

850
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: Did you hear Harball about Matlock yesterday?

851
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: No?

852
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: What he said? He he said he has to credit

853
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: his dad, Jack Harball in August. He uh, because you know,

854
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: Scott has played defense primarily his entire career, so he's,

855
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, just learning to play full back. He what

856
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: do you describe it as? Boot boop boop boop boop boope.

857
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: So watch the presiden it's pre hilarious. But he basically

858
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: took notice of Scott's progression and development as a fullback.

859
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: I think he's look, I think he's there.

860
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: I think there was you know, there was a time

861
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 2: early in the season where I'm like, they God, rather

862
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: see Tucker Fisk in that role.

863
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: He just looks more comfortable.

864
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: And I've come around full circle, man, I think, you know,

865
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: and then that's credit to Scott and credit to the

866
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: coaching staff to kind of get him comfortable, to figure out,

867
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: you know, technique and let's get you. But I do

868
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: think moving forward as a fullback, this is this is

869
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: a guy you're going to have to content out. Do

870
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: I want to see him as the only receiving option?

871
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: No, I don't.

872
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: It was fun to watch and he certainly put it

873
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: on Nick Bolton after Nick already took a shot from

874
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: a Marion. I's got to take one from a three

875
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: hundred pounder. But yeah, especially in the run game, he's

876
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: really really come around. If you watch, If you watch

877
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: both Kimani and a Marion's runs, they're both kind of

878
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: trailing and following quite a bit on Scott and he's

879
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 2: doing act of a job.

880
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890
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Speaker 1: won eleven games last year, but I go back to

891
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: the like, I think it was the last two games

892
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: of the season against a really bad New England team

893
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: and a really bad Vegas team. The fact that you

894
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: have like legit contenders down the stretch, right, you beat

895
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles on Monday Night, you eliminate the Chiefs. You

896
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys, who can score with anybody, who've beaten

897
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: a lot of playoff teams this year. Then you got Houston,

898
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: who will get into next week in Denver. I don't

899
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: want to say last year was fool's gold going into

900
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but you just look at the list of

901
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they've beaten this year, and to have the

902
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: quality of opponent down the stretch, it's got to help

903
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: you going into the postseason, no question.

904
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: I mean you said it Mahomes twice, Bo Nicks, Jalen Hurts,

905
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: like the list goes on and on, Aaron Aaron Rodgers.

906
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: You know.

907
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 2: And now they're gonna go take on Dak Prescott, who's

908
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: probably gonna be top five in MVP voting even though

909
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: the Cowboys aren't winning or Offensive Player of the Year.

910
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: He'll be in that conversation. And and then you get

911
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: a Houston Texans team that's that's the hottest team in

912
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: football right now. And that's the thing, like everyone's talking

913
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: about Oh, Chargers still got a little bit of work

914
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: to do. Are they really a viable playoff team? If

915
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: Jacksonville can take care of the Broncos this week? And man,

916
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you the Broncos.

917
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: It's the one game we're watching it.

918
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: It's like you think about the Packers, man, they were

919
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: ready to put that team away until look certains Rainy

920
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, he makes that interception, Michael

921
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: Parsons goes down a couple of snaps later, and just

922
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: all the air came out of the Packers. But like

923
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: if they the Chargers went out and the Jags get

924
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: that win this week, that Week eighteen game, man, is

925
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: for the division. They already got a game in hand.

926
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: So like I think people forget the Chargers can still

927
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: make a run at the number one seed, like it

928
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: is all still in front of them, and the way

929
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: this defense is playing, the fact that this running game

930
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: is starting to come alive, I think to not acknowledge

931
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: that while acknowledging the other side of it is just irresponsible.

932
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Broncos, it seems so long ago if that

933
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: Week three game with the Chargers had to come from

934
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: behind and win it. But like that Jacksonville game. I

935
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: think we'll be scoreboard watching that one on Monday. We'll

936
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: be scoreboard watching a little bit. Colts and Niners. Which

937
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: what'd you think of phil Great is the best? Right man?

938
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know it's it's a bummer now.

939
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: I said, I want to see Philip play great and

940
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: the Colts lose because they have the tiebreaker against the

941
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: Charterers and if both teams finish eleven and six and

942
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: there's no other eleven and sixteen, then they're going to

943
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: jump them. But I it was fun. It was that

944
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: the touchdown was really full. Well, we were sitting on

945
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: the bus together and I saw you looking around like, hey,

946
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: did anybody else see that?

947
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, I think I blew it because you

948
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: know YouTube TV, it's like everybody has like a different feed.

949
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm like touchdown and it was like uh jer five

950
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: seconds yeah blue for everybody.

951
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was. It was fun to watch. Yeah,

952
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: anxious to see it against the forty nine ers. That

953
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: Seattle defense is good, man, they're really good. And Rivers

954
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: had them. You know, Rivers won the game and he

955
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: did what he was to do. Yeah, I mean they

956
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: were up sixteen to fifteen with forty eight seconds left.

957
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: That's a win.

958
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: You know, he did everything he possibly could, got the

959
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: field goal. It was a sixty yarder, you know, so

960
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 2: your credit group for that one. But our groupie, right groupie, Jerry,

961
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: I think it's yeah, he bootered a six sixty yarder

962
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: to win the game, and then defense unfortunately fell apart.

963
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: It was funny.

964
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: See, I don't know if you saw meers quote, but

965
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I grew up a Philippillses touch with

966
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: me a little bit. It's like, dude, you won the

967
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: game for your team, like it shouldn't hurt you at all,

968
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: but it's kind of cool to see.

969
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: We get in. On Saturday, the Eagles play the Commanders.

970
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: So an Eagles win completely eliminates the Cowboys. They have

971
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: like a one percent chance anyway right now. So you know,

972
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: you wonder, you wonder like the psyche of a team too, Like,

973
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, I can't imagine a Dak Prescott led team

974
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: is gonna kind of have the whatever.

975
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think a lot of it just comes

976
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: down to injuries. How banged upper guys, you know, and

977
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: and how much do they if they're if they're going

978
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: to try to play through something when you know, maybe

979
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: they they shouldn't, but it's like, hey man, we got

980
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: to make that push for the player. Then then that's

981
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: what you see. You'll see guys like, yeah, I'm not

982
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: there's no reason for me to play through this. You know,

983
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm taking a shot. I'm trying to you know, get

984
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: out there for my guys and make a run at

985
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: the playoffs. And that's that's ultimately what happens as you

986
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: end up seeing those dudes just start to sit games out.

987
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: Saw ebra flus is coming down to the field. I

988
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: guess that's a wrinkle that'll change everything. I love when

989
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: teams do that.

990
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, okay, this is could have done

991
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: that six weeks ago maybe, but sure do it.

992
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 1: Do it this week. See if it helps anything else.

993
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: All good man. It was great to see the people

994
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: out here when we got home from Kansas City. That

995
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: was really cool on all the Charger fans that decided

996
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: to come out to the Bolton and support the team.

997
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: Is always really cool to see. So just tipping the

998
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: cap to all of them, and you know, getting ready

999
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: to go to one of our favorite stadiums. It's one

1000
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: of my favorite places to call a game. It's so

1001
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: cool in Dallas. It's gigantic. It like it's like they

1002
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: say everything's bigger in Texas and that that holds for

1003
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: AT and T Stadium.

1004
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: Man, that's one of the This is one of the

1005
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: like two three stadiums I haven't been to yet.

1006
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh really yeah yeah. The broadcast booth where we

1007
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: call the game. I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say,

1008
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: or embellish you when I say it is larger than

1009
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: my daughter's apartment in New York.

1010
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: City, Like it legitimately is just the booth that all.

1011
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 2: Me DJ justin, our producer, rich our engineer, like Afy

1012
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: bed in. Yeah, like you could legitimately move in there

1013
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: and feel comfortable, like get a bed in. Oh here's

1014
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: a little Dinette said, here's the bathroom back here, Like

1015
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: it is wild. How big the press room is massive there,

1016
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: like it's and one of the cool things that Jerry does,

1017
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: like it's a first class organization, man, Like their film

1018
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: out is the best in the league. For in the

1019
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: press room. One of the cool things that I discarded.

1020
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: You know, I used to call national games, so I

1021
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: would call a Cowboy game every now and then. One

1022
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: of the things that surprised me. When I first got

1023
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: there was after the game was over. I didn't have

1024
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: a flight for like two or three hours or something

1025
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: like that, so I was like, I'll let traffic kind

1026
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: of air out before I get out of here. And

1027
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: I went to the press room and all of the

1028
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: beat writers were hanging out drinking beers. He's got two

1029
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: beer taps in there for guys. He's like, I just

1030
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, They're like, yeah, Jerry just wanted to kind

1031
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: of encourage camaraderie and for us to kind of hang

1032
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 2: out and.

1033
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: You know, just spend some time here. Free beer, free food.

1034
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: They have food after the game, and it just kind

1035
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: of creates that community, like, Hey, we're gonna be here,

1036
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: you know, burning the midnight oil, writing our stories for

1037
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: the next three hours. Let's go grab some SuDS and

1038
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: an extra meal and hang out.

1039
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch the Netflix stock Yeah, on the Cowboys.

1040
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: Ye, it's the best. Great, It's exactly what it is, due,

1041
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: it's exactly.

1042
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: What it is. They're they're like the Lakers. It's like,

1043
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's like Lakers, Cowboys, Yankees, Dodgers's Global brands Dodgers. Yeah,

1044
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: it'd be funn Yeah, I'm looking I'm looking forward to it.

1045
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: And Charger fans show up. Man, We're going to some

1046
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: meet and greet on Saturday night. One of the fan

1047
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: groups down in Texas nice representing a lot of Powder

1048
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: Blue and Kansas City we saw too, so it was fun.

1049
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was a great time chat out with

1050
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: a number of people out When I was doing my

1051
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: lap around Arrowhead, which was cold, but surprisingly not as

1052
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: cold as I thought I was gonna be. I'm sure

1053
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: that boy don't want to hear that. They'll will wind.

1054
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: That was the key. Yeah, yep, all right, a little

1055
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: bit of talk there. To close it up, we come

1056
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: Week sixteen. Here we come for money. I'm Chris. This

1057
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: has been Charges Weekly presented by Splitter Steep Steep Step

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