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Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of The Round the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm Greg Rosenthal. Citty in for for Dan hansis in.
Speaker 2: The host chair. I'll be back Thursday.
Speaker 3: But I'm surrounded by a room filled with some heroes,
Speaker 3: Mark Sessler and Patrick Clayband.
Speaker 4: We're here. Hey, guys, it's great to have you back. Patrick.
Speaker 4: I don't know when when the last visit was scenario.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 5: It was in the playoffs, it wasn't that long. But
Speaker 5: it also it's anytime I'm not with you, guys, is
Speaker 5: you feel that? Yeah, So there's a hole that has
Speaker 5: been filled.
Speaker 3: Right, It's it's like Connor orr or I maybe it
Speaker 3: was Dan's old saying at the combine, which, uh, if
Speaker 3: you can tell by the sound quality here and by
Speaker 3: the fact I said, we're in the Chris Westling podcast studio,
Speaker 3: we are not in Indianapolis breaking news. But he used
Speaker 3: to say back in the day, it's not about the meat.
Speaker 3: When we would go to Saint Elmos, the famous steakhouse,
Speaker 3: it's about the meat. Oh, that is a danism, And
Speaker 3: I would say the same, you know, with hanging out
Speaker 3: with you. The meat in this case would be the
Speaker 3: Alpu store up in the huddle we had before. Whatever
Speaker 3: that was we had, it was, it was good, it
Speaker 3: was tasty.
Speaker 6: And I mean, I think we did such a good
Speaker 6: job not going to the combine a year ago. Is
Speaker 6: that the company, the people high upstairs said let's not
Speaker 6: send them again because they they seem to thrive by
Speaker 6: not going to the location.
Speaker 3: Right If people still listen to the shows anyways, what
Speaker 3: do they really know? It's fine, Although I gotta say,
Speaker 3: if you're listening Shadowy League figures out there, I'm officially
Speaker 3: putting in our request that we want to go back.
Speaker 3: I think we do for twenty twenty five if we
Speaker 3: are still gamefully employed at this company, which is you know,
Speaker 3: never a guarantee. I want to I want to push
Speaker 3: to go back. I think it's fine. It was nice
Speaker 3: on some levels. It's easier to be here, but I
Speaker 3: want to go back, and.
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
Speaker 6: I think we should bring Patrick with us as well,
Speaker 6: like to make it a full group experience.
Speaker 5: I too would also like to be employed by this
Speaker 5: spe tack of the organization In twenty twenty five and
Speaker 5: I would like to join you guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, it'll be fun.
Speaker 4: It is a great company.
Speaker 3: It has been fun going there, but the years off
Speaker 3: we're fine. And you know what, it was actually almost
Speaker 3: on some level, it's easier to watch all these combine
Speaker 3: pressers now. Back in our tap our days as reporters,
Speaker 3: as real you know, dog goed reporters, we would split
Speaker 3: up all the different podium sessions between the gms and
Speaker 3: the coaches. You know, eighty ninety percent of them have
Speaker 3: a fifteen minute session on a podium. We would split
Speaker 3: it up. We would even have a draft when Kevin
Speaker 3: Patra and counter Or were involved, and we would split
Speaker 3: it all up.
Speaker 4: But well then we're talking how the sausage gets made.
Speaker 3: This time, we just sort of watched on Twitter, watched
Speaker 3: on NFL Network, and we got a lot of good sounds.
Speaker 3: So we're going to play a game to start this show.
Speaker 3: We've got Eric back behind the glass. Randy is back
Speaker 3: there as well, and they've been putting together sound clips
Speaker 3: all day of what's been coming out of these Combine pressors.
Speaker 3: So even before we get to a little bit of news,
Speaker 3: this felt like the news. This felt medior. We're going
Speaker 3: to play a little game of do we believe it?
Speaker 3: I like the meteor callback, Yes, do do we believe
Speaker 3: what these men are saying? And in this case it
Speaker 3: is it is all men at these podiums. We don't
Speaker 3: have a woman head coach or a woman GM. It's
Speaker 3: do we believe what these men are saying? Maybe that's
Speaker 3: the name of the segment. We haven't discussed that beforehand.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 6: I think it's it is, you know, appropriate on multiple levels. Yes,
Speaker 6: I tend to believe nothing, so I want to see
Speaker 6: if someone can convince me.
Speaker 4: Otherwise, what about if you believe?
Speaker 3: Okay, if you believe, Yeah, if you believe, if you believe,
Speaker 3: Eric break the tie.
Speaker 2: I like, do you believe? Do you believe these men
Speaker 2: like hav I think when you originally pitched these.
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty four, the answer would be no.
Speaker 2: To you believe them? That was the original pitch.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's start with with QUESTI questiado famnsa. Who's in
Speaker 3: the spotlight right now? Because of a lot of these
Speaker 3: justin Jefferson talks, I'm getting texts from people getting You're
Speaker 3: getting these like aggregator who's covering another aggregator? Who's covering
Speaker 3: someone who heard whispers that Justin Jefferson may be traded,
Speaker 3: And it's been kind of the story of the last
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, and it's been annoying me because no
Speaker 3: one's actually really reported anything. Quessei had some first person
Speaker 3: comments on the topic today.
Speaker 7: We got unbelievably close. We've said it, and we'll continue
Speaker 7: to say it. We think he's the best bide receiver
Speaker 7: in the league and should be compensated as such. We
Speaker 7: think he's one of the best non quarterbacks in league.
Speaker 7: I think he should be compensated as such. And so
Speaker 7: we'll continue to have those dialogues. In those conversations, I've
Speaker 7: promised them and I will continue to promise them that
Speaker 7: I will not talk about our negotiations. I think this
Speaker 7: job should be done with integrity. So this A lot
Speaker 7: of the stuff that I hear is completely false. But
Speaker 7: I can't get up here and tell you what's not
Speaker 7: true or not false, because that's not That's not how
Speaker 7: I promised to do this job.
Speaker 3: So he was talking about contract negotiations that he had
Speaker 3: had with Jefferson.
Speaker 2: How close is it?
Speaker 6: I tend to despite my comments that I like theoretically
Speaker 6: believe no one on these in these places.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 6: I do believe them because I think part of it
Speaker 6: is they went through a process last offseason where they'd
Speaker 6: cut salary, they cut some veterans. They're in a bit
Speaker 6: of a rebuild. But why on earth would you How
Speaker 6: do you sell to your fans? Part of this is,
Speaker 6: you know the prs of it. How do you sell
Speaker 6: to anyone, including whoever is going to be your quarterback,
Speaker 6: the rest of your offense, the rest of your locker room.
Speaker 6: We're gonna find a way to trade the most exciting
Speaker 6: young wide receiver in the league, and then what's the
Speaker 6: pathway forward? So I think, yes, they're going to keep them.
Speaker 6: They want to make it happen. That's my that's my
Speaker 6: thought on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, just taking it all into context, just
Speaker 5: watching the clip, I believe him. I'm at eighty five
Speaker 5: percent belief. But then, like the sourcing on this trade
Speaker 5: rumor doesn't make any sense, Like Greg said, it's this
Speaker 5: game of telephone that doesn't have a beginning call, and
Speaker 5: why would they trade justin Jefferson like, the whole point
Speaker 5: of this entire process that we're in Indianapolis to do
Speaker 5: is to evaluate talent, acquire that talent, and hopefully have
Speaker 5: them on your football team. What's the point of getting
Speaker 5: a known commodity that you know, as Quesse said, is
Speaker 5: one of the best players in the game if you're
Speaker 5: going to trade for what?
Speaker 6: Right they got them by trading stuff on Diggs And
Speaker 6: it was like, you're not going to just keep merry
Speaker 6: go rounding this right?
Speaker 3: I forget now who it was, And I apologize on
Speaker 3: Twitter who was saying like, yeah, like, who knows, they
Speaker 3: could maybe even not keep Cousins. They could end up
Speaker 3: using some of these draft picks to get a young quarterback.
Speaker 3: You take one at eleven, and then eventually you use
Speaker 3: all these resources to go find a number one receiver
Speaker 3: to find like to support this young quarterback. So I
Speaker 3: did think this was newsworthy. It was noteworthy. I believe
Speaker 3: them because of the clarity and aggression in which he
Speaker 3: said that the rumors were false, and also that they
Speaker 3: got so close that was new. We never heard that
Speaker 3: that he said we were extremely close to getting a
Speaker 3: contract done previously. I think he's talking about, you know,
Speaker 3: during last season or before last season. So the fact
Speaker 3: that he's saying that now or the last times they talk.
Speaker 3: I feel very confident. I believe you, Quessei. Let's see
Speaker 3: if we believe Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings coach, who's going
Speaker 3: to talk about Kirk Cousins and his feature.
Speaker 4: With the team.
Speaker 8: The thing about free agencies itself is this is not
Speaker 8: Kirk's first time in free agency. Kirk Cousins knows how
Speaker 8: I feel about him. I've held no secrets there. He
Speaker 8: knows how the Minnesota Vikings feel about him. I believe
Speaker 8: Kirk wants to be a Viking, and we're gonna work
Speaker 8: to try to make that the outcome.
Speaker 5: I believe Kevin o'comm because because again, if it's a
Speaker 5: Vikings thing, it just makes sense, right. Kirk's ultimately going
Speaker 5: to make a financial decision for him and his family.
Speaker 5: The Vikings are going to try to be a part
Speaker 5: of that. They don't necessarily know the outcomes, but I
Speaker 5: don't think there's a reason not to try, right, And
Speaker 5: I did like the timing from Kirk. He was throwing
Speaker 5: a football and like doing a kind of like forty
Speaker 5: percent drop.
Speaker 4: Back on a tennis court. On a tennis court, that's
Speaker 4: for me. How do you feel about that? Greg? Would
Speaker 4: you want Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I believe Kirk is in
Speaker 3: the former Tennis Oh Yeah Star Club along with Matthew
Speaker 3: Stafford and Breeze, which does support that Tennis is an
Speaker 3: extremely athletic Unfortunately apparently, you know, we're losing our best
Speaker 3: athletes to the NFL.
Speaker 6: But it's also a proving page actor, like we've seen him,
Speaker 6: you know, from a musical angle. The Vikings, maybe they're
Speaker 6: just a believable, uh perhaps trans parent organization. But I
Speaker 6: think Kevin o'conne also came out and said, wait a minute,
Speaker 6: this is one of the huge reasons I wanted to
Speaker 6: come here. And it's like, if you're a coach who
Speaker 6: is an offensive minded coach and your quarterback is at
Speaker 6: the center of that, like you go move on from
Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins to what and suddenly you can be in
Speaker 6: a total abyss if you And he pointed out how
Speaker 6: much he'd thought that Cousins was playing like a top
Speaker 6: quarterback before I got injured last year too, So I
Speaker 6: think they would they're open to bringing him back and
Speaker 6: we'll just see what happened, right.
Speaker 3: I believe that Kirk, all things being equal, like for
Speaker 3: some reason, the Vikings would match any deal out there.
Speaker 3: I believe Kevin O'Connell that Kirk Cousins would rather just
Speaker 3: stay in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he? You could see it on the Quarterback Show.
Speaker 9: You can.
Speaker 2: It's just logical.
Speaker 4: You've got kids in school, a.
Speaker 3: Great you have a great system. If they're not equal,
Speaker 3: and another team wants to blow the Vikings out of
Speaker 3: the water, and the Vikings aren't prepared to pay fifty
Speaker 3: million dollars a year, one hundred million dollars guaranteed, and
Speaker 3: there is a team out there that might want to
Speaker 3: do that, whether that's Atlanta or someone else, then it's
Speaker 3: a totally different conversation and he could lose.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 3: I'm not as confident that Minnesota and Questi will meet
Speaker 3: that sort of price. But I also have no idea
Speaker 3: if anyone's even gonna make that sort of price. Because
Speaker 3: he's he's still thirty six coming off of torn achilles.
Speaker 2: I think that can't be ignored.
Speaker 5: And that's why Quesi's answer is believable, and the outcome
Speaker 5: of that is believable, because yeah, because this answer, while
Speaker 5: I believe Kevin O'Connell, it's not as certain that I'm
Speaker 5: thinking in three years Kirk Cousins is going to be
Speaker 5: in Minnesota forreas. I feel pretty confident in three years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or even three months. We saw Kirk Cousins. I
Speaker 3: saw him on the Insider Show. He did add some
Speaker 3: like gold grill to his teeth, and Justin Jefferson appreciated
Speaker 3: that's look cleer out. They're all getting along their buddies.
Speaker 3: It's not as Kumbai. I wouldn't say in Chicago. I
Speaker 3: thought Ryan Poles, their GM, had some telling comments when
Speaker 3: he spoke about Justin Fields on Tuesday.
Speaker 10: I will say this. I think you guys know me
Speaker 10: well enough now I do if we go down that road,
Speaker 10: I want to do right by just as well. No
Speaker 10: one wants to live in Bray. I know that's uncomfortable.
Speaker 10: I wouldn't want to be in that situation either. So
Speaker 10: we'll gather the information, will move as quickly as possible.
Speaker 10: We're not gona be in a rush, and see what
Speaker 10: presents itself and what's best for the organizations.
Speaker 6: I mean when I hear we want to do right
Speaker 6: by Justin Fields in the context of like if we
Speaker 6: move him, it matters to us that he doesn't get
Speaker 6: dropped off a cliff into the worst situation somewhere else.
Speaker 6: I mean, we'll talk to Nate Tys later about some quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: I would say one thing like I, as the weeks
Speaker 6: have gone on, I put it like zero percent that
Speaker 6: they're keeping Justin Fields.
Speaker 4: I just put it at about zero percent.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I've I had been on I've been on
Speaker 3: that corner that I just I just didn't. I just
Speaker 3: didn't see it for many reasons, the biggest ones being
Speaker 3: that there's two, two or three great quarterback prospects in
Speaker 3: this in this class, and I just think they're a
Speaker 3: little uncertain about Fields, and that it's just logical. And
Speaker 3: the fact that he repeated those words you said or
Speaker 3: that you heard multiple times, almost like he had it
Speaker 3: a little ready, that he if they do it, they
Speaker 3: want to do right by Justin. They don't want to
Speaker 3: live in the gray. And he went on polls to
Speaker 3: like multiple other interviews, he wasn't afraid to talk about this,
Speaker 3: and if Justin Fields was their quarterback, they would know
Speaker 3: by now if they're planning to take a quarterback first. Overall,
Speaker 3: they know by now that it's not like they're waiting
Speaker 3: to decide, so they know what they're going to do.
Speaker 3: You do not say that about your franchise quarterback publicly
Speaker 3: if you are going to keep them. Period, They know
Speaker 3: their tradium. And one thing we didn't hear was he
Speaker 3: even put a timeline on it that like ideally in
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks, basically that sooner than later.
Speaker 3: It makes more sense if it happens before or right
Speaker 3: at the beginning of free agency.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's one thing that makes sense for the Bears,
Speaker 5: and it makes sense for Justin. And I think what
Speaker 5: Poles is doing there is acknowledging that this is a
Speaker 5: difficult situation for Justin who didn't do anything to anybody, right,
Speaker 5: he did not even run a foul of anybody. Now,
Speaker 5: now the Bears field that they can have a better
Speaker 5: chance to get a better quarterback are coming up in
Speaker 5: the draft, and he's acknowledging the circumstance while and who knows, Like,
Speaker 5: does these conversations really change the trade price?
Speaker 2: Like, no, they don't.
Speaker 5: So Like I don't understand why we have to like
Speaker 5: beat koy about it because the price is going to
Speaker 5: be the price. But I'll ding him for the coyness.
Speaker 5: But I do believe that he's not angry at Justin.
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to put Justin in a negative circumstance.
Speaker 5: And when it comes to making the trade, it's ultimately
Speaker 5: gonna benefit Justin because some team obviously wants him, and
Speaker 5: the Bears they don't.
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's even that. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's Koi. I think that's the NFL version of not Koi.
Speaker 3: And yet, like when people are like, well, he's got
Speaker 3: to play his cards close to the vest to like,
Speaker 3: you know, keep his leverage of what it's like, either
Speaker 3: Justin Fields is available or he's not. The team's trading
Speaker 3: for him. They're gonna know if he's available or not.
Speaker 3: You need to know that before he.
Speaker 2: Trade for him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Pole said he wanted to know himself, like
Speaker 6: by tomorrow, like they want to come learn about these
Speaker 6: other quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Right, he made your decision, right.
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be one of the most fascinating stories
Speaker 2: over the next couple of weeks. Could the Giants be
Speaker 2: one of the teams that would be an interested hip.
Speaker 2: That'd be a little wild, but who knows.
Speaker 3: Let's listen to Joe Shane talk about Daniel Jones's future
Speaker 3: with the team.
Speaker 2: Joe Shane is the GM of the Giants. I have
Speaker 2: faith in Daniel. I have faith in Daniels are starting quarterback.
Speaker 8: Mm.
Speaker 3: He was answering questions there about Jones's future, not exactly
Speaker 3: answering the question, but just saying that he has faith
Speaker 3: in Daniel and he's a little, you know, a little
Speaker 3: sharp there.
Speaker 6: I can't think of a team that should have a
Speaker 6: more active wandering eye at this position than the Giants.
Speaker 6: I think they mismanaged this exact process with Jones in
Speaker 6: Saquan a year ago about as poorly as you could
Speaker 6: and you're kind of back in the same situation. Jones
Speaker 6: has a very big price tag, which I think is
Speaker 6: a problem. But like they, to me feel like a
Speaker 6: legit candidate to off to another quarterback to compete with
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones immediately money aside.
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't believe Joe Shane in this in this
Speaker 3: one that he has faith in Daniel Jones as his
Speaker 3: starting court did it sound like it. I think he's
Speaker 3: going to bring another option in. The timing is tricky
Speaker 3: because like he I think he even said he's bringing
Speaker 3: a veteran in. He said he told Daniel Jones that
Speaker 3: and that makes sense. Tyrod's a free agent. Daniel Jones
Speaker 3: isn't going to be able to be healthy for a while.
Speaker 3: So even if you're drafting a rookie number six overall
Speaker 3: or even trading up, you're gonna want a Tyrod type
Speaker 3: or a veteran to bring in. So it'll be interesting
Speaker 3: to see what type they bring in along with what
Speaker 3: I believe is going to be a rookie.
Speaker 2: I don't believe him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe, I guess in the spirit because he
Speaker 5: chose his words very carefully, like Daniel Jones is there
Speaker 5: starting quarterback as for the plans.
Speaker 2: But he said he has faith in it. Yes, I
Speaker 2: don't believe he has faith.
Speaker 6: Let's get a few beers in Joe Shane and see
Speaker 6: what he says.
Speaker 5: But it seems like the obvious scenario we're evaluating in
Speaker 5: New Jersey is that there's not a lot of reason
Speaker 5: to have fit if that faith in Daniel Jones' longtime
Speaker 5: prospects as the Giants starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: It's crazy that they gave him that contract which guarantees
Speaker 3: him forty million this year, else he wouldn't be on
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 5: But hey, at least they didn't pay the running back, right,
Speaker 5: because that's the worst case scenario, right.
Speaker 3: One little nugget there was he opened up the possibility
Speaker 3: of using the franchise tag on Saquon Joe. Shane did
Speaker 3: kind of pushing back against an Adam Schefter report from
Speaker 3: Monday that the Giants weren't planning to use the tag
Speaker 3: on him. He also, by the way, mentioned the Cowboys
Speaker 3: aren't planning to use it on Pollard, the Writers aren't
Speaker 3: planning to use it on Jacobs, the Chargers aren't planning
Speaker 3: to use on Eckler. None of those are surprises at all.
Speaker 3: But Shane throwing it out there publicly that actually the
Speaker 3: cap went up thirty million and that might have changed
Speaker 3: their math, that maybe we would use the tag on
Speaker 3: Saquon Worth, noting this was the first time and if
Speaker 3: we were their date Mark I would have tried the draft.
Speaker 3: Dave Canalis the Panthers, you'd want to cover that press,
Speaker 3: I would want to cover. I think he'd be a
Speaker 3: high draft sure where like where do you see that?
Speaker 6: I think the draft process, we'd you know, we'd sit there,
Speaker 6: like we'd go out and have dinner and we'd literally
Speaker 6: the four or five reporters would like go from top
Speaker 6: to bottom.
Speaker 4: And I think the.
Speaker 6: Process was like, don't get stuck with the GM or coach.
Speaker 6: You don't want to cover. And I like new faces,
Speaker 6: so he would have been high on my lege.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always want to see the new face. And
Speaker 3: Canais came out firing at his first presser.
Speaker 11: How's it going, how's everybody doing great?
Speaker 2: Had a nice workout earlier right in Rock Okay.
Speaker 3: His just the intensity and the tight fitting likra on him.
Speaker 3: It was a lot and it's I like it, and uh,
Speaker 3: I want to hear more from Dave Canalis about uh
Speaker 3: his thoughts on his quarterback UH.
Speaker 11: No plan to fix price Young. I think for me,
Speaker 11: it's it's about building an offense that we can be
Speaker 11: proud of, something that something that is tough, something that
Speaker 11: is smart, that that takes care.
Speaker 4: Of the football.
Speaker 11: Number one, we had to create more explosives and then
Speaker 11: and then of course we have to minimize damage with
Speaker 11: exotic pressures and things like that. So I think just
Speaker 11: elevating the whole group and and really asking Bryce to
Speaker 11: just do his part.
Speaker 2: Vibe I is like, what are you picking up here?
Speaker 2: From Canalis?
Speaker 5: I'm picking up that the workout wasn't that intense that
Speaker 5: he had. That's a lot of energew so I don't
Speaker 5: know that it was. Maybe maybe the volume was there,
Speaker 5: the intensity wasn't necessarily there.
Speaker 3: It seems like he would be like a good instructor
Speaker 3: of like aerobics.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think, sir, just maybe a strength trainer.
Speaker 6: I say that I'd have to caution myself to that
Speaker 6: type of persona sometimes where it's like, hey, I'm great,
Speaker 6: I worked out this morning and had a healthy breakfast.
Speaker 6: It's like that kind of person can rub me the
Speaker 6: wrong way at a certain hour of the morning.
Speaker 2: He did a library guys right after that.
Speaker 12: He said it was like a CrossFit kind of thing
Speaker 12: and then ended with a steep incline walk.
Speaker 2: Okay, but he framed it us very sweaty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did like some circuit trade. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 5: pretty commons a fit dude. He's a fit guy, and
Speaker 5: I think that he is a good fit for Carolina.
Speaker 5: I do think that all of those problems from twenty
Speaker 5: twenty three were not Bryce related. It took a team
Speaker 5: effort to be that bad. So I do believe him.
Speaker 5: I do believe him that the plan is to come
Speaker 5: in and fix Bryce. The plan is to have a
Speaker 5: functional offense that is NFL level incompetent and then we
Speaker 5: can evaluate Bryce. But I don't know that you could
Speaker 5: really evaluate anybody on that offense.
Speaker 6: I think also from his own belief that he can
Speaker 6: improve all this Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield like comeback player
Speaker 6: of the Year and a comeback Player of the Year
Speaker 6: candidate in my book, two guys whose careers were lost,
Speaker 6: and so why come in and say we need to
Speaker 6: fix Bryce, Like you don't label him that way. You
Speaker 6: kind of lift all the blame off of the quarterback
Speaker 6: and start fresh.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud was quoted during Super Bowl Week, you know, him
Speaker 3: having a conversation with Bryce youang of just like never
Speaker 3: forget who you are, why you were the one, the
Speaker 3: one not me, and like kind of saying, like everything
Speaker 3: that happened, like you're still that dude. And that's gonna
Speaker 3: be a big part of Canalis, the mental side of it.
Speaker 3: I think Mike Daniel did a good job with Tua.
Speaker 3: For instance, two had played a couple of years before.
Speaker 3: It's just Bryce young and yeah, I think of Alex Smith,
Speaker 3: who had the worst rookie season I've seen from a
Speaker 3: first round pick, certainly a first overall pick, and the
Speaker 3: very next year got a good coordinator Norv Turner, and
Speaker 3: played one thousand percent better and went from the worst
Speaker 3: quarterback in the league to like a league average quarterback,
Speaker 3: which is pretty good for a second year.
Speaker 2: They probably are aiming higher with Bryce.
Speaker 3: But I can see the parallels and what you said
Speaker 3: about just making the offense better. One person who is
Speaker 3: not going to make it the offense better in Denver.
Speaker 3: I think it is Russell Wilson. We're going to go
Speaker 3: out of Indianapolis and we're gonna go into what is
Speaker 3: either the home of Russell Wilson or Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure, or I.
Speaker 6: Think it was Russell Wilson. Okay, there's soon to be
Speaker 6: sold Denver home. There's comically large books, right.
Speaker 3: I assume this was not Brandon Marshall's podcast studio, because
Speaker 3: I would be like, let's talk to them.
Speaker 2: No, this is because they had some cast. This is
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's house. Okay.
Speaker 12: I think Brandon Marshall makes a couple of comments like
Speaker 12: you see Sierra or Sierra walking around and you're like, oh, there,
Speaker 12: go see so it's it's at Russell Wilson's house.
Speaker 3: I gotta say I would be a better podcast host
Speaker 3: if I had listened to all of this podcast, because
Speaker 3: I actually want to, because when I heard eighty minutes
Speaker 3: of this, I thought that, actually it's a good use of.
Speaker 2: One point five speed. I don't know if you're into
Speaker 2: that with podcasts.
Speaker 3: I approve it now in certain circumstances, not like comedy,
Speaker 3: not if you really love the guest or something, but
Speaker 3: if you just for information purpose, this would be a
Speaker 3: good one one point five. But I want to listen
Speaker 3: to it because I have a feeling it's going to
Speaker 3: be fun. But I've listened to about seven or eight
Speaker 3: different sections of it, and some of them were like
Speaker 3: two or three minutes long. So I've listened to a
Speaker 3: lot of it, including this first one on Russell Wilson
Speaker 3: talking about winning is a habit.
Speaker 13: I think in a twelve year period, there hasn't been
Speaker 13: much that I haven't gone through. I've been through all
Speaker 13: the winning, been through some of the losing, not all
Speaker 13: of it. Some of them don't get used to it
Speaker 13: right right, because so many people get used to losing
Speaker 13: right right. Winning is a habit but losing is too,
Speaker 13: and that's not a habit I'm taking in.
Speaker 14: That's not a habit I believe in.
Speaker 2: Does not believe it. The haircuts different. I feel like
Speaker 2: it means business.
Speaker 3: He's now freshly shorn, wearing it tight like like a
Speaker 3: Patrick clay Bond. Russell Wilson also tried to leave open
Speaker 3: the possibility that he could stay in Denver.
Speaker 13: I got more fire than ever, honestly, especially over the
Speaker 13: past two years of what I've gone through. Whether it's
Speaker 13: in Denver or somewhere else. I hope it's in Denver,
Speaker 13: you know. I hope I get to finish there. I
Speaker 13: committed there. I wanted to be there. You know I
Speaker 13: want to be there.
Speaker 4: Hold On, you can go back to Denver, bro go
Speaker 4: back there. You can play with Coach Payton again. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was Russell Wilson and Brandon Marshall on the I
Speaker 3: Am Athlete podcast.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think you can just have to look
Speaker 6: at the Russell Wilson experience in a different way than
Speaker 6: someone else answering that question, like he's admitting no defeat.
Speaker 6: I wilso for He's an easy target and I find
Speaker 6: him grading to listen to. If he goes on and
Speaker 6: on about his sports psychology stuff. But the one honest
Speaker 6: comments I thought he said during the season was that
Speaker 6: how hard last year was for him and how hard
Speaker 6: this season was just to be a different to be
Speaker 6: seen so differently. I can't think of another quarterback that
Speaker 6: went from star power to off like completely. We look
Speaker 6: at them as like a failure at this point, and
Speaker 6: to go through that personally probably would try you. But like,
Speaker 6: I don't think in his world of worlds, he's getting paid.
Speaker 6: He's gonna get paid a ton of guaranteed money. Was
Speaker 6: why would you want to go back into this culture
Speaker 6: and this experience which coach Sean Payton, who openly doesn't want.
Speaker 3: You to beat no body language and tone did a
Speaker 3: lot of work there because when Brandon Rushall was like
Speaker 3: really and he was, and then Russell the question by
Speaker 3: Brandon mark yeah, and Russell Wilson gives him kind of
Speaker 3: like a yeah, he'd sort of like give him a
Speaker 3: like well maybe you know, you know, not.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, It's it's not something that he's going to
Speaker 5: personally enjoy, Like I don't think russ And is going
Speaker 5: to be chilling at Sean Payton's house and they're going
Speaker 5: to be sharing memories about their their times together. But
Speaker 5: I do think Russ would like a chance to be
Speaker 5: a starting quarterback somewhere. And if that's Denver, he'll he'll take.
Speaker 5: He'll take that, chick, that's your only chance. Yeah, if
Speaker 5: that's if that's the only one. But yeah, it's grading
Speaker 5: and it gives weird podcast grifter But like I wonder,
Speaker 5: like because so many of those people, like we have
Speaker 5: a nation of people that got grifted. People bought all
Speaker 5: those power Energy band bracelets and and like list listen
Speaker 5: to hours of Tony Robbins Power Energy. Yeah, there was
Speaker 5: there was this company that they they put Hologram.
Speaker 3: Actually, my son Walker it has does wear this one
Speaker 3: that they said is good for like your stomach, uh
Speaker 3: if you get carsick, which I I think it has
Speaker 3: as much effectiveness, but it tricks him into thinking it works.
Speaker 5: But yeah, like it's weird that people fall for all
Speaker 5: that stuff. But for some reason, like Russell Wilson can't
Speaker 5: necessarily get away with it.
Speaker 4: But I think it's all the same.
Speaker 2: Mmm. But it's a point.
Speaker 4: It's just.
Speaker 5: He is tiring, but he's a better quarterback than facing
Speaker 5: Rudolph you know, Well, sure, and like the price tag
Speaker 5: clearly is the difference, but it just it feels weird
Speaker 5: if he's if he's priced out.
Speaker 3: I do worry about him, though, because he's just this
Speaker 3: relentless positivity, positivity. He's gonna believe that his belief will
Speaker 3: take him to the next level because it has. He's
Speaker 3: achieved more than anyone would have ever imagined a third
Speaker 3: round pick who is a Super Bowl champion, one of
Speaker 3: the seven or eight best quarterbacks of the last like
Speaker 3: ten Yarnine Pro Bowl, right, Like, he's achieved.
Speaker 2: It all, and yet I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's coming He's a not This isn't
Speaker 3: This doesn't happen to every quarterback, but for him, I
Speaker 3: don't give much chance of it coming back. It's not
Speaker 3: coming back. And I don't think even the starting job
Speaker 3: is coming back. And so for him to adjust to
Speaker 3: what that's gonna be, like, I think it's gonna be difficult,
Speaker 3: and I thought it was gonna be difficult sometimes for
Speaker 3: guys and they end up doing it really well. I
Speaker 3: think Cam Newton transitioned into that second Patriots phase of
Speaker 3: his career pretty damn.
Speaker 2: Well and it worked for him.
Speaker 3: So maybe Russell Wilson will end up doing that even
Speaker 3: if he's not playing that well, like where he's a
Speaker 3: good teammate and like he fits in and it's fine.
Speaker 3: But to me, it's gonna be hard for him to
Speaker 3: adjust to a point where he's like backing up Drake
Speaker 3: may or something like.
Speaker 6: And when the Steelers tell us, and I don't know
Speaker 6: if I believe them at this point either that they
Speaker 6: they're not chasing another quarterback. I'm struggling to find the
Speaker 6: team out there that inside their building convinced themselves Russell
Speaker 6: Wilson can be our starting quarterback and this is gonna
Speaker 6: work well.
Speaker 2: Right, So he's probably gonna get cut.
Speaker 3: He sent a video of him working out today with
Speaker 3: Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 2: They're working out together two.
Speaker 3: You know, love Nipsey Hustle, but I feel like we
Speaker 3: got to move on from the like grinding on my
Speaker 3: grinding all my life song is the song for every
Speaker 3: workout video for pro athletes. At some point we need
Speaker 3: to move past that. We're not moving past Sean Payton, though,
Speaker 3: who had kind of amazing comments. You know, he's getting
Speaker 3: annoyed by Russell Wilson continuing to talk about the contractual
Speaker 3: nefarious stuff that Russell Wilson was asked to do by
Speaker 3: the Broncos. And you know, it's annoying the Broncos that
Speaker 3: Russe Wilson keeps bringing this up. I think that might
Speaker 3: be why Sean Payton kept talking about it on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I saw this like humorous meme the other day where
Speaker 1: there's a Bronco fan with a shirt on and there
Speaker 1: was like eight quarterbacks names with a cross through it,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's drinking the quarterback kool aid. And
Speaker 1: you know, our job is to make sure that this
Speaker 1: next one, you know, doesn't have a line through it.
Speaker 3: M I do believe him, Yes, I believe him the
Speaker 3: next one. The fact that he says the next one.
Speaker 3: He also put a timeline on Wilson.
Speaker 1: So I would I would anticipate it being, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: within the next two weeks.
Speaker 2: You don't think this is going to go to the
Speaker 2: Eve of.
Speaker 14: Mar I think I just said the next two weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 14: next two weeks.
Speaker 2: I love a little fiery John Payton. He I a
Speaker 2: fun value add to have back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to remember how he was at the very
Speaker 6: start of his career. But he has zero He openly
Speaker 6: has zero patients for half of these conversations at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's he's clear, he lets us know. And
Speaker 4: and that's the thing.
Speaker 5: It's easy to believe Sean Payton because you know he's
Speaker 5: gonna say whatever comes to mind, and he said it there.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go hard.
Speaker 3: He's got the Paris you know, Saint Germain, the cool
Speaker 3: hoodie on, and he's got the Jordan's and he's living
Speaker 3: like I don't you know, he's doing fine. Let's uh,
Speaker 3: we're gonna listen to a few more people if we
Speaker 3: believe him or not. And uh, before we do that, though,
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Speaker 3: wants to watch some combine action walker walk.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a competist, he's been in it.
Speaker 3: He was all excited because they were showing old NFL
Speaker 3: combines apparently on like the NFL channel, and he was confused,
Speaker 3: thought that was live.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, don't watch this, let's wait.
Speaker 6: I also saw he was watching in those Top ten
Speaker 6: shows with an old clip.
Speaker 3: Wes he is he is a true junkie, and so
Speaker 3: he was using his TV time to watch old Top
Speaker 3: ten in Season Trades I believe was the episode and
Speaker 3: Wes was spout and wisdom about the Bobby Lane trade
Speaker 3: from Detroit, which is the most West thing ever, and
Speaker 3: talking about this curse and uh, it's a beautiful it
Speaker 3: truly is a beautiful thing. Like walking room and see
Speaker 3: your son and he's watching this thing and Wes is
Speaker 3: on it. So Wes lives on and that like he
Speaker 3: was so strong in those episodes if if you ever
Speaker 3: have a hanker, and you should go check check those.
Speaker 2: Was made for the for that And I was on
Speaker 2: that episode too, and you.
Speaker 4: Were also made for that content.
Speaker 5: You know you were, because like when I see those
Speaker 5: number interstitials on the Montens and there's like a ball
Speaker 5: bursting through an aquarium with the number six on it,
Speaker 5: and then Greg false face comes up like.
Speaker 3: That, or it's like, wait, why are there like like
Speaker 3: five buck some cheerleaders and then number seven, it's like wait,
Speaker 3: why are they there? Exactly, but that's like the whole
Speaker 3: show is just like the cheerleader you know in the interstitials.
Speaker 6: Does your does Walker think that every dad is just
Speaker 6: hanging out on telegon?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: I asked him that he thinks it's cool. But but no,
Speaker 3: I was bad back. We all get better at our jobs.
Speaker 3: You were saying you had regrets. I believe about an
Speaker 3: interview you just did yesterday. I often to have regrets
Speaker 3: about performances on this show. And I can say, without
Speaker 3: a doubt, if if I could do those top tens again,
Speaker 3: I would be better at him now than I was
Speaker 3: seven or eight years Well, I would.
Speaker 6: Say one thing behind the glass, like they often are
Speaker 6: filmed at the combine and like it's like go out
Speaker 6: till three in the morning and illness at seven in
Speaker 6: the morning.
Speaker 3: That was a little bit of it. But yeah, Emica
Speaker 3: came over and she supported my claib. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're just so chill. Why are you just and I'm
Speaker 3: just like being very like chill and laid back, which
Speaker 3: is not the way to do that. You gotta be
Speaker 3: more like Da Damn Damon, Ammon, Doloria or whatever. You
Speaker 3: gotta come hot. You got to come decisive. He doesn't
Speaker 3: not that I would do that. I'm just saying, trust me,
Speaker 3: we all get better, not things that we do.
Speaker 2: I would be better. We would all be better.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't make I didn't make my Combine appearance.
Speaker 6: I mean I could do better as well.
Speaker 3: Mark is a striking television presence from you know, he
Speaker 3: came from the the desk guy at NFL Networks in
Speaker 3: twenty You were a different man back then, a bit.
Speaker 6: Of an end around the television executives here. Not sure
Speaker 6: how how that all came together. A. J.
Speaker 3: Brown was on w I P last week, and we're
Speaker 3: going to include him in this do you Believe section
Speaker 3: because it was talked about in Philly and and certainly
Speaker 3: by Howie Roseman at his Combine presser, and A. J.
Speaker 3: Brown was talking about the rumors of whether he would
Speaker 3: want to stay in Philly or not.
Speaker 15: I have no problem. I want to be here that
Speaker 15: I love where I'm at.
Speaker 3: And he also hit on uh, the talk that there
Speaker 3: could be friction with him in his quarterback.
Speaker 15: You know, I think that's total bs. You know, I'm
Speaker 15: not gonna get into me and his relationship on the air,
Speaker 15: but it's total bs. You know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 15: it wasn't. It wasn't a problem when I was on
Speaker 15: my game Game Street, it wasn't. It wasn't talking about
Speaker 15: that then. So they only started talking about that when
Speaker 15: we started losing. So of course, yeah, you see freaking.
Speaker 15: You see freaking from everybody, from front of the coach,
Speaker 15: just the player, from everybody. So yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 6: The one the one interesting like dynamic to this was
Speaker 6: that this was on you know, w I P and Philly,
Speaker 6: Like he was sitting around listening to everyone going off
Speaker 6: on the radio and called in.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a schedule, he called it on his own.
Speaker 3: Two That makes me believe. That makes me believe if
Speaker 3: you're going to call in to w I.
Speaker 6: P out of nowhere, right, So I'm willing to think
Speaker 6: that it was a very frustrating meltdown and like, that's
Speaker 6: a tough town to have a melt down in. And
Speaker 6: I think it's like, look, at it worked really well
Speaker 6: the year before. There's still a lot of talented players
Speaker 6: on that team, and it's like, I think AJ Brown's
Speaker 6: probably found some peace overall. It happened, and it's like
Speaker 6: calling in to say, chill out, it's gonna be fine
Speaker 6: from my side of things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and not to just make it everything about just
Speaker 5: how bad the offense was and how disjointed it seemed.
Speaker 5: But Jalen was hurt at the end of the season
Speaker 5: and so was AJ. Like they were limping across the
Speaker 5: finish line. So you add all of that together, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: there's frustrations, like we saw Travis Kelcey go at Andy
Speaker 5: Reid in the actual Super Bowl, right, But as AJ
Speaker 5: pointed out, they won, so everything's good. Like we don't
Speaker 5: have these outside expectations on their relationship because they won,
Speaker 5: So then we're just to assume that everything's fine and
Speaker 5: they hug and everything's great. But it's just like such
Speaker 5: a binary thing and I'm glad, Like I'm glad that
Speaker 5: Aj because people might say, like, oh, he's clearly paying
Speaker 5: too much attention, but like people are talking about like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you would like to be able to pick up the
Speaker 5: phone and call and say Hey, this is dumb.
Speaker 4: This this has nothing to do anything. So yes, I.
Speaker 3: Believe, I appreciate that, and I hope, I hope they
Speaker 3: keep aj Brown and Devout Dey Smith together for another year.
Speaker 2: I think they will. I think they know what they have.
Speaker 3: It might get a little tricky once Davanta's up for
Speaker 3: new He could get a new contract this offseason, but
Speaker 3: they might not address it yet, Like at some point
Speaker 3: they might break those two up. We'll see. I thought
Speaker 3: it was interesting Howie Roseman also all but confirmed James Bradbery.
Speaker 3: He did confirm James Bradbury's going to be back with
Speaker 3: the team. I think that's more of a contract thing
Speaker 3: that he has so many, so much guaranteed money in
Speaker 3: his contract.
Speaker 2: But like, if the Eagles had the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Defense, they would have been like in the conference championship
Speaker 3: like and then no one would have been talking about
Speaker 3: the offense. The offense was okay for most of the year.
Speaker 3: Let's move on to back to Indianapolis. Let's talk to
Speaker 3: Elliott Wolf. The fact that Elliott Wolf even had a
Speaker 3: ponium was news. The fact that Elliott Wolf confirmed that
Speaker 3: he has final say on the Patriots roster like this
Speaker 3: has been a slow build.
Speaker 2: It's kind of been the expectation. But Elliott Wolf.
Speaker 3: Is that dude running the Patriots now, and they're right
Speaker 3: in the thick of this quarterback talk because they're number
Speaker 3: three overall. Some people think they could take one. Some
Speaker 3: people think they could trade down. What does Elliot Wolf think.
Speaker 9: I think it's a really good year for quarterbacks. It's
Speaker 9: a really good year at a lot of positions. Like
Speaker 9: any position, we're gonna we're gonna evaluate their strengths and
Speaker 9: weaknesses determine who fits for us. We're pretty early in
Speaker 9: the process here, like I haven't met any these guys.
Speaker 9: Drodd hasn't met any these guys. So you know, as
Speaker 9: we continue through the process here, we'll determine what's best
Speaker 9: for the team. And you know, one thing about the
Speaker 9: quarterbacks in this dress specifically that I'm excited about is
Speaker 9: they all look like they're really tough guys, which you
Speaker 9: know is obviously great at any position, but the quarterback position, especially.
Speaker 3: Elliot Wolf's dad, Ron the famous He's starting to look
Speaker 3: like Ron Wolf right GM of the Packers. Back in
Speaker 3: the day Fame had a philosophy to drafted quarterback every
Speaker 3: single year ever since I heard that. That's been what
Speaker 3: I then say in articles, and then a podcast was
Speaker 3: like that, well, that's a good move. This drafted quarterback
Speaker 3: every year. It was kind of the Patriots move for
Speaker 3: a while too. Behind Brady and Ron, Wolf would keep
Speaker 3: hitting on these late round picks that would develop into
Speaker 3: backups that would be trade picks or be good people
Speaker 3: behind Brett. So I think Elliott's going to do that.
Speaker 3: Whether he does that with the number three pick or not,
Speaker 3: I don't know. He also had some interesting comments. I
Speaker 3: think it was in a side session because Eric was
Speaker 3: was grinding tape. He watched it three times over we
Speaker 3: couldn't find anywhere on Twitter. He he made this comment
Speaker 3: that he he didn't want the culture there to be
Speaker 3: as what was it, and he.
Speaker 6: Said, certainly right, certainly there's more of an open, less
Speaker 6: of a hard ass type hard ass vibe in the
Speaker 6: building now post Belichick.
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I figured if he said that on a camera
Speaker 12: in front of a mic, it would have been too
Speaker 12: hard to find the video of it.
Speaker 2: Yes, so but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh that one probably get back to Belichick
Speaker 3: and Wolf shouldn't regret that he said it because he's
Speaker 3: just being honest, but.
Speaker 6: As those ball boys help the negative time probably regarding
Speaker 6: saying it, well, it'll become a little thing in Boston either.
Speaker 4: I mean, does it matter.
Speaker 5: Because the one thing I don't believe about what Elliott
Speaker 5: said there isn't there early in the process.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5: They've probably done a whole lot of work on the process,
Speaker 5: and maybe there's a few conversations that they would like
Speaker 5: to have in person, but I think they're pretty far on.
Speaker 6: I mean, Elliott wolf has been around, like there are
Speaker 6: a lot of like John Schneider and other people that
Speaker 6: go way back in the old Green Bay days where
Speaker 6: Ron Wolf was there and Elliot Wolfe was like a kid.
Speaker 6: People knew him as a kid, like he's been in
Speaker 6: the NFL forever. So I find his comments to be
Speaker 6: a little not hedging, but like he's not going to
Speaker 6: tell us a thing about what they're doing at quarterback.
Speaker 6: I'd be stunned if they don't have a bigger planet
Speaker 6: quarterback than rerun go back with Mac Jones and Bailey Zappy.
Speaker 3: That they have to be flexible because with a three pick,
Speaker 3: you don't know what quarterback you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: Let's say they like Drake May.
Speaker 3: And as you mentioned and I failed to mention at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the show, we are getting Nate Tyson
Speaker 3: to wrap up this show to talk to some quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: You know, who knows.
Speaker 3: Maybe Caleb Williams doesn't get taken one and they love
Speaker 3: caller Williams and they want to trade to two and
Speaker 3: they have resources to get him. Or maybe Drake May
Speaker 3: falls to three and they would take him, but they
Speaker 3: wouldn't take Jaden Datis or vice versa. Maybe they're really
Speaker 3: in on Jayden Daniels but he ends up going to
Speaker 3: and then you have to be able to pivot. So
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that they'll have to do
Speaker 3: before that, including getting I think someone in the building
Speaker 3: through free agency that's at least just there, regardless of
Speaker 3: what they're going to do in the draft. He also
Speaker 3: was very high on calling Michael Oneu a core piece
Speaker 3: in someone they want to build a round, which made
Speaker 3: me think a franchise tag could be coming for one U.
Speaker 3: Just the level of support he was putting behind him
Speaker 3: made me think either they're going to get that ill
Speaker 3: done or maybe they.
Speaker 6: Might when they're the third most caproom in the league.
Speaker 6: Right It's like I tend to think they'll be aggressive and.
Speaker 3: Right and when they weren't, as he wasn't as aggressive
Speaker 3: talking about Kyle Duggar, So I don't think a franchise
Speaker 3: tag would happen there. Let's wrap up a couple more
Speaker 3: in Indie. Raheem Morris is the head coach of the
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons, and he pointed to one reason why that
Speaker 3: that could be the case.
Speaker 16: I'm not afraid to say that we have the ability
Speaker 16: and we're capable of go out there and win next
Speaker 16: year if we do some of the right things, some
Speaker 16: of the right moves, we can do that. And that's
Speaker 16: not an arrogance, that's not that's not a cockiness. That
Speaker 16: is more of a credit to the people that were
Speaker 16: in the building with me still some of the people
Speaker 16: that are not there now and what they've been able
Speaker 16: to do. You know, if we had better quarterback play
Speaker 16: last year in Atlanta, I might not be standing here.
Speaker 5: Perhaps the most honest thing that was said, yeah and
Speaker 5: correctlying that was said in a podium today from Indianapolis.
Speaker 4: It's one hundred percent true.
Speaker 5: I think Desmon Ritter and Taylor Heneke would probably agree
Speaker 5: with that as well. I know author's would you know,
Speaker 5: maybe there's a few people that think it's Jamis's fault
Speaker 5: that Arthur got fired, but I think there was those
Speaker 5: are no more things that went into that. Yeah, the
Speaker 5: quarterback play was bad. It was especially bad in the
Speaker 5: red zone. They had so many opportunities, and you can
Speaker 5: think about them week after week after week, play after
Speaker 5: play where they didn't get it done there and go
Speaker 5: on the quarterback position and that's that's the way the
Speaker 5: game goes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like one reason for Falcons fans to immediately
Speaker 6: appreciate Raheem Morris the way that he's been talked about
Speaker 6: from people inside the Rams organization and parts beyond that.
Speaker 6: This we needed an energy shift around the Falcons offense
Speaker 6: and it's very clear right now that if Desmond Ridder
Speaker 6: is hanging around, he'll be a backup. They're going somewhere else,
Speaker 6: and that that was important.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, well, that can't be fun to listen
Speaker 3: to if you're Desmond Radder, but it makes a lot
Speaker 3: of sense. I'm excited about this Falcons coaching staff. It
Speaker 3: was interesting I think hearing Sean mcvaigh. He gave a
Speaker 3: press conference in LA because he's not going to the
Speaker 3: combine about the guys that went to Atlanta and really
Speaker 3: believing that they put together a great coaching staff, which
Speaker 3: is you know, diminished the RAMS coaching staff. Uh, but
Speaker 3: that that's how it works. Let's wrap up with Tom
Speaker 3: toe LESCo, who's still in the NFL. He's still in
Speaker 3: the AFC West. He did the rare thing where he
Speaker 3: lost one job and got another that that almost never
Speaker 3: happened to GMS, and it happened to Tom Telesco of
Speaker 3: all people. I don't I don't mind Tom to LESCo,
Speaker 3: but he's not like the guy that you would have
Speaker 3: expected that to happen. He is the guy that was
Speaker 3: asked about DeVante Adams possibly getting traded this offseason.
Speaker 14: Another GM asked.
Speaker 16: You this week about it whether don demon Vader bail Wisconsin.
Speaker 14: He's a raider.
Speaker 3: It's quick everyone, it is true. Everyone took that to
Speaker 3: mean like there is no chance DeVante Adams is getting
Speaker 3: traded that. I think that's probably true. I tend to also,
Speaker 3: and I actually don't totally, but I don't believe people
Speaker 3: should be having headlines that he said that we will
Speaker 3: not trade Davonte No, and we do.
Speaker 6: I think it's important that like Deavante Adams was a
Speaker 6: big proponent of Antonio Pierce being hired and liked that
Speaker 6: because I think we were heading towards like irritated DeVante
Speaker 6: Adams territory with each passing week last season and a
Speaker 6: lot to do with the coach that got fired, and
Speaker 6: I think he's in a better place. Quarterbacks still a
Speaker 6: big question though, Yeah, and.
Speaker 5: It's a question I think they'll need to answer, and
Speaker 5: that's something in the conversation they'll need to have with Davante.
Speaker 5: But ultimately it's up to Mark Davis and Tom Telesco
Speaker 5: to make the circumstances comfortable enough for Davante to be there.
Speaker 4: It's it's their choice.
Speaker 5: Because I asked, We did TA with Steve Smith Senior,
Speaker 5: and I asked him, if you're DeVante, do you want
Speaker 5: to be back in Las Vegas. Steve, like a lot
Speaker 5: of people, was like, well, it depends on depends on
Speaker 5: the financial circumstances. I mean, they can make it worth
Speaker 5: his while to be on a bad football team.
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do pay him more money?
Speaker 4: If that's if that's what it.
Speaker 5: If not that, then yeah, Davante would probably like to
Speaker 5: if he's gonna play football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: But if you like living there and they get a
Speaker 3: decent enough quarterback, Justin Fields does that feel.
Speaker 4: Does Justin Field want to be with Luke Getzy? Again,
Speaker 4: that's not one that would be that doesn't happen to us. No,
Speaker 4: why not? I mean, it just doesn't happen that Well, what's.
Speaker 2: To indicate that they wouldn't work together?
Speaker 4: Well, let's get Mac Jones and Matt Patricia.
Speaker 2: No, it's not quite the same.
Speaker 3: I guess you're you're saying, as a Justin Fields fan,
Speaker 3: if I could read between the lines here, you don't
Speaker 3: want him to be with Luke Getzy necessarily because you're
Speaker 3: not that confident in Getsy, because otherwise, like it's familiarity
Speaker 3: with the system.
Speaker 2: He just said, Okay, yes, yeah, and I believe Patrick.
Speaker 2: I believe you, Patrick, I believe you.
Speaker 3: But there's only so many uh spots where he could land,
Speaker 3: and I feel like that could be okay, And if
Speaker 3: I was a Raider fan, I would like that at
Speaker 3: this point, I feel like that would be a good and.
Speaker 4: There would be more hope with Justin I mean, considering
Speaker 4: the options.
Speaker 3: He just feels like that's what al Davis would have
Speaker 3: done at this point is go get Justice and Fields.
Speaker 6: That would be an enticing matchup and I think you
Speaker 6: can get over the OC's part of it, but the
Speaker 6: Falcons also linger out there as a.
Speaker 2: They loved other teams.
Speaker 3: Is failed, not failed, but second chance first round pick
Speaker 3: because Justin Fields occupies a weird space where like he
Speaker 3: was better than the average first round quarterback.
Speaker 2: Actually, if you think about it, like he's.
Speaker 3: He's better than average, he's just not a top five
Speaker 3: to ten quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's weird.
Speaker 5: That the way that the draft doesn't feel like it
Speaker 5: impacts this as much as Cousins does.
Speaker 4: Mm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like Cousins is going to slot so much in
Speaker 5: the quarterback position because it feels like if Cousins is
Speaker 5: not there for Atlanta, then Fields becomes more viable and
Speaker 5: then the field like it may depend like Russell Wilson
Speaker 5: may have a job or may not depending on where
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins goes, because it.
Speaker 4: That's the big chess piece out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've we've now honked for a while. It's
Speaker 3: been it's been a little bit, but we've got more
Speaker 3: to come. And before we do any of that, we're
Speaker 3: going to take a quick break and then we're actually
Speaker 3: going to do the news. Then that's wild. We're shaking
Speaker 3: things up, Eric Innovative. After the break, we.
Speaker 2: Are back and uh, let's do some news.
Speaker 3: Uh here is uh I'm going to tell you what
Speaker 3: the news clip is before we even hear it, just
Speaker 3: to give you a little context. This was Peter King
Speaker 3: being prompted on NBC Sports Network on the birth of
Speaker 3: my daughter Ellis.
Speaker 17: Like Ellie as in short for Ellis, and everybody's gonna
Speaker 17: say Ellis Ellie is short for Ellis Burks Rosenthal is
Speaker 17: a sick Red Sox.
Speaker 14: Fan, unlike or just like.
Speaker 17: Somebody else on this panel who shall not be named.
Speaker 17: And my only question is, couldn't you think of a
Speaker 17: better Red Sox?
Speaker 14: You know, Carl william Els Burt's better than name of
Speaker 14: a girl Podge, I guess.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that was this show we were on way
Speaker 3: back in twenty eleven on NBC Sports Network and him
Speaker 3: roasting me for my daughter's name.
Speaker 5: Hey, congratulations to Greg because we might not have had
Speaker 5: Peter King if he.
Speaker 4: Was talking about.
Speaker 10: It.
Speaker 4: So celebrating Peter King's twenty six year career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was you know, I took it in good spirit.
Speaker 3: Just the fact that he brought it up. I always
Speaker 3: remember it's also the oldest thing on my phone. It's
Speaker 3: the oldest saved thing on my phone. And Peter King,
Speaker 3: of course, uh retired surprisingly out of nowhere this week
Speaker 3: wrote his last Football Morning in America column, So happy
Speaker 3: trails Peter King.
Speaker 2: No one quite like him in football media over the
Speaker 2: last No, Like I was.
Speaker 6: Thinking about like this one combine many years ago where
Speaker 6: you know, back then you did these long tables were
Speaker 6: you'd write and you'd be sitting down with people from
Speaker 6: other you know, publications and stations, and like Peter King
Speaker 6: came and sat down like a seat away from me,
Speaker 6: and like I was like, I'm not gonna bug him,
Speaker 6: but I was like, this is one of the few
Speaker 6: kind of football reporters slash football minds where I was
Speaker 6: like kind of starstruck, and like I it's like him
Speaker 6: growing up reading Sports Illustrated, growing up reading these guys
Speaker 6: like doctor Z Paul Zimmerman and Peter King are like
Speaker 6: the two dudes that I would just say had these lengthy,
Speaker 6: incredible careers that where they changed football so much. And
Speaker 6: Peter King, I think the thing the one thing I
Speaker 6: heard about him consistently and over and over, and you
Speaker 6: knew when you were young. Greg in the business was
Speaker 6: that I guess like his most recent going away like
Speaker 6: a going away type dinner. It was a mix of
Speaker 6: like ten old school veteran journalists that he'd worked with
Speaker 6: for ages, but then like ten people that were very
Speaker 6: new to the industry that he just wanted to be
Speaker 6: part of that as well. It seemed to always nurture
Speaker 6: care about young journalists, gave a he really showed incredible
Speaker 6: faith in some of them that aren't journalists anymore.
Speaker 4: It wasn't lifers that he knew would be.
Speaker 6: And I think Peter King is just a very special
Speaker 6: part of this industry and it's like there is no
Speaker 6: replacing him.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, he kind of bridges the gap of
Speaker 3: all these generations. And he was like the guy, which
Speaker 3: it's pretty you know, in an industry as big as
Speaker 3: you know, football writing, and there were other guys over
Speaker 3: the years, but for a long time, like he kind
Speaker 3: of was the guy, Like when John Harbaugh, I believe
Speaker 3: spoke about it a couple people this week of like
Speaker 3: you know, they're gonna miss they they grew up. Eric
Speaker 3: Tacosta grew up reading Peter King and have those memories
Speaker 3: of those conversations and he I think the thing he
Speaker 3: did better than anyone else is he got good. He
Speaker 3: got players to talk in a way, he got them
Speaker 3: comfortable to explain the game or explain stories behind the
Speaker 3: game in a way that was really unique. And he
Speaker 3: did that with Sports Illustrated and then he did that
Speaker 3: on the web with with MMQB and then you know
Speaker 3: to TV when he was on Football Night in America
Speaker 3: and everything. He had a great inside the helmet where
Speaker 3: he goes through different positions and gets really and I
Speaker 3: feel like it's probably out of print. I don't even know,
Speaker 3: but if you could find it, that was a really
Speaker 3: great inside look where he spends a lot of time
Speaker 3: with some of the best players in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And it's back back in the nineties.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 5: And I really think because like watching you guys go
Speaker 5: around and interact with people, and I do want to
Speaker 5: celebrate Peter King, but y'all deserve flowers too. And I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be honest, like, because you talked about spanning and
Speaker 5: connecting these legacies, like you guys connect those legacies as well.
Speaker 5: And the one thing that I was thinking about because
Speaker 5: Peter came on Total Access. The day he retired was
Speaker 5: we ran out of time because you know, Peter writes
Speaker 5: a ten thousand word column every single week for thirty years,
Speaker 5: so you know, sometimes it can run a little long.
Speaker 4: But hopefully the industry.
Speaker 5: Facilitates growth, right for the next generation of people, Yeah,
Speaker 5: they can come through and hopefully get that access and
Speaker 5: be around and to do these interviews and to have
Speaker 5: these relationships, because sometimes it feels like they won't. But
Speaker 5: I think in the people that I'm sitting with at
Speaker 5: this table, and you know, the dude who's not here,
Speaker 5: and of course the nold one's who's not with us anymore,
Speaker 5: that legacy is it exists. And I just I don't
Speaker 5: know why I put on me to say this, but
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 6: Well, patricklike that kind of made my week. I don't
Speaker 6: know how sometimes you just kind of forget.
Speaker 3: What you even do during that is that is really
Speaker 3: right back at you appreciated. And it's one of the
Speaker 3: reasons why I miss going to the combine because that's
Speaker 3: a week for that. For you you do realize, like
Speaker 3: how long you've been doing this. You see the new
Speaker 3: people coming up. It is a time to have those
Speaker 3: sort of meetings, dinners, advice, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: And yeah, Peter was very helpful to me that that
Speaker 3: Friday show we did. He actually we had a segment
Speaker 3: my old producer, Matt Casey reminded me where Peter essentially
Speaker 3: played the fantasy football buffoon, like how am I messing
Speaker 3: up in fantasy football? And I was the fantasy quote
Speaker 3: unquote expert, and that was my role on the show,
Speaker 3: was like the Michael Fabiano of that show. And I
Speaker 3: would come on and we would talk fantasy. We would
Speaker 3: talk like reality and fantasy. Peter would sort of talk
Speaker 3: about his takes and how that would apply to fantasy,
Speaker 3: and I would.
Speaker 2: Kind of come at him.
Speaker 3: I was like, actually no, And we had fun doing that,
Speaker 3: and he would he was very nice. He would give
Speaker 3: me and Matt a ride back to the city and
Speaker 3: in his car that made a big difference with a
Speaker 3: newborn getting back an hour earlier instead of having to
Speaker 3: take the train. And had great conversations and he was
Speaker 3: just a great dude. And yeah, that book I mentioned
Speaker 3: deep interviews and sort of like what it's like to
Speaker 3: play these positions and stuff with Boomerasis and Barry Sanders
Speaker 3: Bruce Smith, Jimmy Johnson. It's a really cool, well written
Speaker 3: book shows I think what he does well. So happy
Speaker 3: trails to Peter King. We're gonna fly through some news
Speaker 3: that I just thought was worth noting, So jump in
Speaker 3: whenever you want to hear.
Speaker 2: First, let's suck a little just rule stuff.
Speaker 3: The end zone touchdown rule where the ball is fumbled
Speaker 3: into the end zone and then the other team gets
Speaker 3: it on the twenty. That's not gonna change. It's over that.
Speaker 3: That is not going to change. Despite some people thinking
Speaker 3: is gonna change.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna change.
Speaker 6: I find it annoying because of the NFL seems to
Speaker 6: do a good job in the off season of sussing
Speaker 6: out rules that seem to kind of generate a lot
Speaker 6: of like why does this rule still exist? And like
Speaker 6: this is one where you could I think temper like
Speaker 6: the cause and effect of that kind of a fumble
Speaker 6: and it would make sense to everyone, and we're not
Speaker 6: doing it.
Speaker 2: I think move it. I think keep the ball, but
Speaker 2: you move it back to the twenty.
Speaker 4: I just something like that.
Speaker 5: I maintained the sideline should be the sideline all the
Speaker 5: way down there. If somebody fumbles out on the back
Speaker 5: of the en zone. That's different. Somebody fumbles the en
Speaker 5: zone and the other team recovers it clearly, But I
Speaker 5: just don't understand that the sideline outside of the end
Speaker 5: zone being different.
Speaker 3: But you know, there's new competition committee members Sean McDermott,
Speaker 3: Sean McVay. Maybe they weren't into it because like this.
Speaker 4: Thing, well they didn't even go to the combines.
Speaker 3: It didn't even get They must have been on the
Speaker 3: conference call or whatever. It didn't even get out of committee. Essentially,
Speaker 3: Stephen Jones talked about it. You benefited from that rule
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Yeah, that's a good point. The other
Speaker 3: thing I thought, just a quick note we even discussed
Speaker 3: is Andrew Berry, your guy in Cleveland. I like that
Speaker 3: he's trying to push and the Browns are proposing pushing
Speaker 3: back the trade deadline, which I've been talking about for years.
Speaker 3: I think that would be great. So we'll follow up
Speaker 3: on that if that actually goes through. But I like
Speaker 3: that the Browns are trying to get that done. Some
Speaker 3: business happened over the weekend. T Higgins officially got the
Speaker 3: franchise tag and some thought is that he might get
Speaker 3: traded like that that seems to be a more realistic
Speaker 3: possibility than with most franchise tags. I can't tell if
Speaker 3: it's just speculation or if there's reasons behind it. Brian
Speaker 3: Burns also looks likely to get a tag. Dan Morgan,
Speaker 3: the new Panthers GM said today like if we need to.
Speaker 6: Essentially, I don't know why you trade Higgins considering who
Speaker 6: the Bengals are right now, where your position in the AFC,
Speaker 6: who your quarterback is, and what that wide receiver room
Speaker 6: starts to look like if you take Higgins off the team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like how much Andre and Josavas are we
Speaker 5: willing to build this airplane out of Why not run
Speaker 5: it back with Tea at least one more time.
Speaker 2: I think that's what they will do.
Speaker 3: I'm a little torn if they're not going to pay
Speaker 3: t Higgins the money that he'll deserve and will earn
Speaker 3: next year. And they've been a team that has been
Speaker 3: willing to just franchise tag guys and then lose them eventually.
Speaker 3: That's happened a number of time, including with Jesse Beats.
Speaker 3: I think like you could get a pretty you know,
Speaker 3: you might be able to get like the seventeenth pick
Speaker 3: of the draft, or the twentieth pick of the draft
Speaker 3: and you take a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: There is that crazy. I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Well, it's like Diggs Jefferson.
Speaker 6: If you can pull that off, if you get an offer,
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 2: You probably the odds are you probably won't get it right.
Speaker 15: But the.
Speaker 3: Players coming out now have a pretty high success rate
Speaker 3: at wide receiver. I was trying to think of teams
Speaker 3: that would maybe give up a first round pick for
Speaker 3: Tiggins and this probably wouldn't happen until April anyways. But
Speaker 3: like the Colts that's in the middle of the draft,
Speaker 3: the Bucks, if Mike Evans. E's like the Texans, the Bills,
Speaker 3: the Lions, Like, would you trade for the twenty fifth
Speaker 3: pick for Ti Higgins? I actually I'm maybe leaning no,
Speaker 3: but I I don't hate it either way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends on how you view your window.
Speaker 5: Like let's say that the punt doesn't doesn't hit the
Speaker 5: forty nine ers of McLeod is able to recover it,
Speaker 5: and the Chiefs lose the Super Bowl, like in they're
Speaker 5: out of the Mike Evans run. You know, are they
Speaker 5: willing Would the Bengals be willing to give Tiggans to
Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Now the Chiefs forget it, but maybe like the Texans
Speaker 3: or the Lions, or the Colts or the Bucks or
Speaker 3: there's like a million teams where it's like, would the
Speaker 3: Bengals look at it like, Okay, let's not just put
Speaker 3: everything into this year. Let's keep stretching this thing as
Speaker 3: much as again, we're gonna page a month.
Speaker 6: Like literally, it's like late early evening in Indianapolis right now,
Speaker 6: probably someone from the Bengals is talking to someone from
Speaker 6: another team about this topic.
Speaker 4: At this mirrit very low.
Speaker 3: A couple other quick items I mentioned earlier. The cap
Speaker 3: went up thirty million dollars. That is unprecedented. It was
Speaker 3: expected to go up a lot, maybe like eighteen to twenty.
Speaker 3: This is kind of the after effects of the team's
Speaker 3: printing money once again, now that the pandemic is, you know,
Speaker 3: in terms of financial repercussions, is kind of in the rearview.
Speaker 3: And so that's gonna make it easier to keep a
Speaker 3: guy like t Higgins or a guy like Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3: And again, there's too many, too much cap space out there,
Speaker 3: not enough good players. Some of the decent players that
Speaker 3: have gotten released though in the last handful days Shack
Speaker 3: Barrett from the Bucks. He's in my top one to one.
Speaker 3: He's at eighty. Emanuel Agba, I think, is at the
Speaker 3: very back end of of the top one to one.
Speaker 3: A Xavian Howard, the cornerback for the Dolphins. Some of
Speaker 3: the early cuts.
Speaker 6: It just all feels financially triggered in these cases. And
Speaker 6: most of these guys are still solid players and we'll
Speaker 6: find another team soon.
Speaker 3: Right, They're like solid, but not eighteen twenty five cap
Speaker 3: charge type of guys. The Zavion Howard did have two
Speaker 3: pretty pretty rough seasons, so I'm not sure the market
Speaker 3: for him is going to be good. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: mentioned Brian Burns, and yeah, Brett Veitch, the GM of
Speaker 3: the Chief said they do figure that they're going to
Speaker 3: use the tag. Now he didn't say who it would
Speaker 3: be on the logic is it would probably be Lagarious
Speaker 3: Sneed and they're going to try to get Chris Jones sign.
Speaker 3: In the meantime, Eric tells me we might have some
Speaker 3: breaking news. Let's hear it. Go just read read it.
Speaker 2: Off for me.
Speaker 3: There it is right there, the Chief seven form Lagarious Sneed.
Speaker 3: They're going to use the franchise tag for him. So
Speaker 3: I wish I had read that like thirty seconds.
Speaker 12: There's ways of communications and then sometimes you get on
Speaker 12: a roll and it's just it's all good.
Speaker 2: We got it in here.
Speaker 12: I'm messaging you in like seventy five different ways and
Speaker 12: eventually holding the fingers, typing fingers up and Claybahn saw.
Speaker 3: Them, you know, live in the moment looking to Mars,
Speaker 3: I dig mysterious eyes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not alone. People say they'd like to do that.
Speaker 4: It's a good thing to do. I couldn't imagine spending
Speaker 4: my time in a better way.
Speaker 3: I mean, you kind of have the perfect two seats
Speaker 3: for it here. It's it's it's a one reason why
Speaker 3: you Dan and Mark just shut me out of conversations.
Speaker 2: Dan's just as I mean, look at those things.
Speaker 4: Oh please, what's happening here?
Speaker 5: But I think with burns in speed, like the tag
Speaker 5: as a negotiation strategy, like a step in the negotiation.
Speaker 4: Yes, it seems to becoming a more popular thing.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it was always popular, but I'm I
Speaker 3: hear you. I think that's the reason why they created
Speaker 3: the franchise tag.
Speaker 5: And well as besides its role as a price control metric,
Speaker 5: like just procedurally, like, okay, so we're going to do
Speaker 5: this negotiation, but tag right continue.
Speaker 3: If anything, Yeah, it's always been about restricting the best
Speaker 3: players from actually leaving the team. It's a vestige of
Speaker 3: the old free agency system. And if anything, I think
Speaker 3: they do try to get these these deals done, maybe
Speaker 3: even more than they did fifteen years ago. But you're
Speaker 3: right Patrick, most of the time they don't. They just
Speaker 3: end up stick getting stuck on that tag. And I
Speaker 3: sent some optimism from each two on Chris Jones, we
Speaker 3: will see and maybe who knows, maybe we'll have it.
Speaker 6: I mean, he said it again. They really really want
Speaker 6: to keep him. I think he wants to stay. He's
Speaker 6: been saying that. The one of the little nugget that
Speaker 6: I thought that the Bucks, both Jason light and Todd
Speaker 6: Bowles came out very strongly saying like, Mike Evans is
Speaker 6: very much in our plans. So yeah, I thought that
Speaker 6: was maybe not going to be the case. And it's
Speaker 6: like they're gonna push to keep him and Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 6: And if I'm a Bucks fan, I like that. I
Speaker 6: will see if we if we can believe them, if
Speaker 6: that's true, Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I do believe them.
Speaker 15: Man.
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be some big offers for Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: So we'll see if they can match them.
Speaker 5: And it might just honestly, because we're gonna see Derek
Speaker 5: Henry playing somewhere else and it's just it's weird and
Speaker 5: we're going to look back. Mike Evans is going in
Speaker 5: the Bucks Ring of Honor. He may be going the
Speaker 5: Pro Football Hall of Fame just a couple extra years. Like,
Speaker 5: what what's the price?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I think you keep him in Tampa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they would absolutely love to keep Mike Evans,
Speaker 3: like like they're going to keep Levante David.
Speaker 2: He expects to stay in Tampa. He's he said as much.
Speaker 3: We will continue to say things into microphones with our
Speaker 3: friend Nate Tice coming up after a quick break. Nate
Speaker 3: is going to join us and we'll we'll talk about
Speaker 3: some of the quarterbacks at the combin. That music can
Speaker 3: only mean one thing. We've got a guest coming up.
Speaker 3: One I'm very excited about.
Speaker 2: This is a man.
Speaker 3: What's backed up Russell Wilson at the University of Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: He is the host of the Athletic Football Show, including
Speaker 3: a weekly episode called Prospects to Pros with Dane Brubler,
Speaker 3: which I have personally listened to all season in an
Speaker 3: effort to not be as dumb about the NFL draft
Speaker 3: process this year.
Speaker 4: A self preg arrives.
Speaker 2: It's nice.
Speaker 14: Not as dumb because there's only so much I can do.
Speaker 2: Know you, your your program with with Dane is is great.
Speaker 2: It's every Wednesday. People should check it out.
Speaker 3: And yeah, no, it's I'm not gonna say it's a
Speaker 3: total blind spot on this episode on this show, but
Speaker 3: we don't cover it as much until like right now.
Speaker 3: So that's that's the purpose of you, Nate, to to
Speaker 3: get us smart on these matters.
Speaker 14: It's perfect timing for Combine Week. By the way, that
Speaker 14: intro music really reminds me of the four Horsemen in WCW, Laron,
Speaker 14: Arnie Anderson and everything. It's very much so I approve
Speaker 14: of that theme. I seeing people cover that guitar solves
Speaker 14: it's phenomenal. Well, no, what better way to talk about
Speaker 14: the draft than literally Combine Week? Yeah, I think the
Speaker 14: im Sarron moves from the regular season to the draft,
Speaker 14: and here we are in Indian Apples.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are there, we are in the studio, and yes,
Speaker 3: our host Dan Hanss loves to play that song as
Speaker 3: a roar shock test of what people think of and
Speaker 3: that was I think the first time.
Speaker 6: That we Yeah, we often get like, you know, lonely
Speaker 6: obsessed detective driving through the LA night in a yeah,
Speaker 6: yeah BMW or something.
Speaker 14: So yeah, okay, I like that. Yeah. And something came
Speaker 14: out from nineteen eighty three to nineteen eighty six, Yeah,
Speaker 14: something of that sort. Maybe that's why it's Rick Flair
Speaker 14: in nineteen ninety four, Yeah, because because they still acted
Speaker 14: like it was the eighties, you know, it was ninety five.
Speaker 5: Performing a psychological test on every guest is a very
Speaker 5: damn thing to do. I do because Greg has increased
Speaker 5: his ball draft knowledge, right, Yeah, I wanted to know, Nate.
Speaker 5: Do you feel the level of ball knowledge generally has
Speaker 5: impacted things at the combine based on the way that
Speaker 5: it seems like from what I'm hearing from podiums and
Speaker 5: interviews that team officials are very reluctant to say anything.
Speaker 5: Do you think that your contribution to the level of
Speaker 5: ball knowledge has stunted conversation? M just me personally, it's
Speaker 5: it's a team effort.
Speaker 4: Nape, but it's a no.
Speaker 14: I think the general fan has become smarter, and I
Speaker 14: also think the advanced fan has become smarter as well.
Speaker 14: And I think there is a growing I mean, shoot
Speaker 14: you guys, shoot mina, Bill Barnwell, there's many people out
Speaker 14: there that do so much good stuff, and that I
Speaker 14: think that's what it is. I think that people realize, oh,
Speaker 14: there is more to this game rather than just grit
Speaker 14: and who wants it more, which does matter, but also like, yeah,
Speaker 14: the intricacies of the scheme stuff, even the processes. I
Speaker 14: mean there's so many, so many articles you can write,
Speaker 14: but it feels like there's a new article about some
Speaker 14: process us with the draft or training or how teams
Speaker 14: look at guys. So I do think there is some
Speaker 14: of that. And also we're getting to a point where
Speaker 14: coaches aren't showing up for the combine. If you told
Speaker 14: me that ten years ago, five years ago, I'd be
Speaker 14: really like that sick and like so that that blows
Speaker 14: my mind. And the player's stuff I understand, especially after
Speaker 14: post COVID, you know, you know, after kind of the
Speaker 14: changes of what they realized, they ken and cannot do.
Speaker 14: But I do think that people have become more savvy
Speaker 14: as far as like how they answer stuff, even codd stuff,
Speaker 14: because I do think the general fan has bumped up
Speaker 14: a lot. The floor has I think raised up a
Speaker 14: little bit at least. Maybe I'm just in my own
Speaker 14: little bubble, but that's how I think.
Speaker 3: No, I think the attention and look, the draft community
Speaker 3: is bigger than ever, Like there are a lot of
Speaker 3: draftnicks out there. You got to try to stand a
Speaker 3: part in eate, you got to cover the NFL and
Speaker 3: the draft. And one of the things that I've you know,
Speaker 3: noticed this year is you've been a Drake May guy.
Speaker 3: And so we got the news this week that the
Speaker 3: top three expected quarterbacks Caleb Williams, Drake May, Jaden Daniels
Speaker 3: in whatever order they end up going, that's that's probably
Speaker 3: the consensus order, but who knows. Are not going to
Speaker 3: throw at the comment that's not surprising, that's not new
Speaker 3: for for top prospects over over the years. But I
Speaker 3: want to talk about them anyways, because you've been You've
Speaker 3: been a May guy throughout and maybe for the for
Speaker 3: the average fan out there, like why are you a
Speaker 3: May guy? And you're you're a Caleb Williams guy too,
Speaker 3: because I hear I hear you rank the two of
Speaker 3: them probably among the seven or eight, you know, six
Speaker 3: or seven best quarterback prospects of the last like twelve years,
Speaker 3: where you know you would have had Caleb Williams number
Speaker 3: one in almost every draft. You just like Drake May
Speaker 3: a little bit better, and that the two of them
Speaker 3: are that high level of prospect. Why why the separation
Speaker 3: between those two and kind of those two as a group,
Speaker 3: what do you think?
Speaker 14: Yeah, they I truly think they are as top tier
Speaker 14: of a prospect as you can get. There's no perfect prospect,
Speaker 14: of course, and that that's going into that and I'll
Speaker 14: just be corny and say that, but I've been kind
Speaker 14: of like officially scouting guys like as far as like
Speaker 14: actually doing this process and watching a six, seven, eight
Speaker 14: games of all twenty two since twenty fourteen was still
Speaker 14: with the I joined the Falcons, and I would say
Speaker 14: in that time period, so that's about a decade, Caleb
Speaker 14: Williams Drake May are up there with Trevor Lawrence as
Speaker 14: in some way, shape or form that top tier prospect
Speaker 14: that I've ever watched. And then you get off of that.
Speaker 14: And I mean I was pretty high on Fields, but
Speaker 14: he was a tier below that. I was high like Stroud,
Speaker 14: I was, you know, a full tier below that. And
Speaker 14: even if I liked him or Richardson, you know, last
Speaker 14: year as well. But I think with these guys, Caleb
Speaker 14: was a guy I got low on during the season
Speaker 14: and then now I just studied him and I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 14: you're awesome and you are supremely accurate, and I think
Speaker 14: that's the under eight. I'll start with Caleb. But that's
Speaker 14: the underaight. Thing with him is that he's really good
Speaker 14: from the pocket and a lot of that scrambling running
Speaker 14: around stuff was out of necessity because that offense blew
Speaker 14: and the offensive line was no good, and I thought
Speaker 14: he didn't get a lot of help, which surprised me.
Speaker 14: From going from TV copy to all the twenty two
Speaker 14: and it just grew and grew and grew. I am
Speaker 14: comparing him the freaking Drew Brees coming out of Purdue
Speaker 14: because of just that accuracy and how he operates. And
Speaker 14: on top of all this stuff, the ad living and
Speaker 14: the creation and everything, I think he has rare contact balance.
Speaker 14: He's he's tremendous to me, I the accuracy in the
Speaker 14: work from the pocket has been so underrated with him.
Speaker 14: And that's why on top of all the cool stuff
Speaker 14: where he gets comparisons to the homes, that's you know,
Speaker 14: that's a cool package. But May and why I prefer him,
Speaker 14: it's one A, one B. They're both top five guys
Speaker 14: to be easy. May to me is the prototype as
Speaker 14: far as size six four, two thirty. He's a great athlete,
Speaker 14: and I think that's been underrated for him this process.
Speaker 14: He is one of the most efficient and explosive scramblers
Speaker 14: in recent memory as far as like coming out of college,
Speaker 14: like as far as just earning first doubts. He's smart
Speaker 14: with getting down too once he gets past there. But
Speaker 14: I think he's gonna run like a four to six something.
Speaker 14: I think he's a very good athlete. On top of it,
Speaker 14: he's aggressive and he works over the middle. And the
Speaker 14: comparison I and why I always want to bring up
Speaker 14: over the middle stuff is I think of that as
Speaker 14: like three point shooting but for quarterbacks. So if you
Speaker 14: can't do that, you have to be an exceptional athlete
Speaker 14: like a Russell Westbrook who can't shoot or if you
Speaker 14: you have to be like Chris Paul and make like
Speaker 14: Joe Burrow is a great example. He doesn't really work
Speaker 14: over in the middle as much as you would think,
Speaker 14: but he's a monster in quick game and he's a
Speaker 14: monster and just accuracy and all that. He's like Chris Paul.
Speaker 14: He can shoot those long twos instead of shooting threes,
Speaker 14: and so to me, you have to have those gifts.
Speaker 14: May does that he launches stuff over the middle with timing,
Speaker 14: with arm strength and with just anticipation throwing the stuff
Speaker 14: like throwing guys open, truly and so sorry, I got
Speaker 14: new headphones because I forgot mine. So how to buy
Speaker 14: twenty dollars headphones at the airport?
Speaker 2: No, it looks great. It looks like a podcast.
Speaker 14: Yeah right, I know right. I actually thought I would,
Speaker 14: like remember the Dream Team when you know Charles Barkley said,
Speaker 14: I don't know who who they are, but we're gonna
Speaker 14: stomp them or whatever we're gonna say. Like, I feel
Speaker 14: like I have the translation headphones right there. Jerry, I
Speaker 14: think it was, but I think I think uh no,
Speaker 14: but I watched him. It's just he's that total package.
Speaker 14: When I watched these elite guys. The it's hard and
Speaker 14: I'm not really compare any one of my homes, but
Speaker 14: Josh Allen, Lamar, Justin Herbert, those type of guys, a Burrow,
Speaker 14: even a Dak Prescott or Matthew Stafford. They worked that
Speaker 14: over the middle, over and over and over. It is
Speaker 14: because that is the juiciest area to create explosive plays,
Speaker 14: but it requires a lot of balls from the quarterback.
Speaker 2: So I saw you as that.
Speaker 6: I saw you doing a sit down with the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 6: I might have been a radio station or a pod
Speaker 6: of it was recent and you were you were pounding
Speaker 6: the table for May. And like even this morning on Twitter,
Speaker 6: I've seen some people coming from such a different place
Speaker 6: on that quarterback. And you've got people that look at
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams and say a big chunk of what he
Speaker 6: did in college won't work or translate to the NFL.
Speaker 4: It's like so the opinions all over the place.
Speaker 6: But if you're the Chicago Bears and this dog and
Speaker 6: Pony show about what might happen with fields like are
Speaker 6: do you have to believe that they're looking at these
Speaker 6: two quarterbacks the same that you are saying. This is
Speaker 6: an absolute upgrade from justin Fields and with out end question,
Speaker 6: no matter what we're saying publicly, these two guys or
Speaker 6: who you move on from your current current quarterback to
Speaker 6: get one of them if it's and I don't know
Speaker 6: which one it is, but it's like their heads and
Speaker 6: tails better than Fields in your mind.
Speaker 13: I do.
Speaker 14: And even though I am still high on Fields and
Speaker 14: still think he could be a pretty good quarterback in
Speaker 14: this league. I just think he has blemishes that I
Speaker 14: don't know if he can overcome with his throwing style.
Speaker 14: I just talked about all that stuff throwing over the middle.
Speaker 14: Fields doesn't do that. He's not good and quick game.
Speaker 14: He actually, like his upside still is almost like a
Speaker 14: Russell Wilson when in his prime, you know, running around
Speaker 14: launching great deep balls, having some limitations and some of
Speaker 14: the stuff, you know, throwing stuff underneath and over the middle.
Speaker 14: So when I look at that, and like I said,
Speaker 14: these two as prospects, I still view higher than Fields,
Speaker 14: even though I Fields might be five or six. You
Speaker 14: know the guys will watch in the last ten years,
Speaker 14: but I think these guys are a tier better and
Speaker 14: because they do the things that Fields has shown that
Speaker 14: he hasn't been able to do even with a little
Speaker 14: better situation this past year. And that's even before getting
Speaker 14: into the contract stuff. And I know, kind of fake
Speaker 14: smart people want to like use that as like a
Speaker 14: whole talking point, but it doesn't matter. And resetting the
Speaker 14: rookie contract scale, especially when you're paying guys like Montese
Speaker 14: sweat and stuff like that, so that helps the argument
Speaker 14: as well. I said on that Little Bears podcast too,
Speaker 14: and oh that's mean, but That Bears Podcast two is
Speaker 14: that it was that I love those guys. I don't
Speaker 14: know why I said little, but there's like one of
Speaker 14: them asked like, would you bump if they traded with
Speaker 14: Washington flopped at one pick and got the other guy,
Speaker 14: and that it was May in this example. I was like,
Speaker 14: that's ideal to me if you look at them in
Speaker 14: the same tier, which is what I do, that would
Speaker 14: be the ideal on trade fields, move back to to
Speaker 14: get even more capital and then take the other guy,
Speaker 14: the one b.
Speaker 4: Of the of the two guys, right.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to spend anymore on this because I
Speaker 3: want to get to the other quarterbacks. But it does
Speaker 3: concern me that like one of these two guys is
Speaker 3: going to be coached by the same guy that was
Speaker 3: coaching that that terrible USC offense and a year ago
Speaker 3: that suddenly like everyone's like, wow, this was really hard
Speaker 3: to watch this offense, and it's like that guy is
Speaker 3: going to be coaching one of them.
Speaker 2: But let let's let's move let's move on from that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's go down to Jaden.
Speaker 5: I've I've called it amateur kinesiology right with the body
Speaker 5: type concerns. How concerned are you with Jaden's body type?
Speaker 14: I'm I am concerned. I'm going to put on my
Speaker 14: boomer scout hat on a little bit.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 14: He's got narrow shoulders and that's frame. It's all about,
Speaker 14: you know, filling out the frame. Even the guy like c. J.
Speaker 14: Stroud last year I was two fourteen. I think he
Speaker 14: has broad shoulders and big hands. And why I'm bringing
Speaker 14: that up is framed to grow. He's already gained.
Speaker 3: That's like me sixty big shoulders, big hands. I've always
Speaker 3: had potential to just get figure. Yeah.
Speaker 14: No, But with Daniels is that I think he's maxed out,
Speaker 14: Like he's already sixty pounds. I think he went into
Speaker 14: college at one a ridiculously low weight with Arizona State.
Speaker 14: And when you look at quarterbacks, and this is honestly
Speaker 14: I remember coming on here quarterbacks under two ten, not
Speaker 14: even two of five, which is what Daniel's list of
Speaker 14: that and I think he's more like one ninety five
Speaker 14: is you can It's hard to find a quarterback under
Speaker 14: two ten or even two of five that has had
Speaker 14: long term success in the NFL. If you look even
Speaker 14: since two thousand, the year two thousand, the only quarterback
Speaker 14: to have I adjusted net yards you know, touchdowns and
Speaker 14: interceptions to take away sack yardage uh seven or more
Speaker 14: is usually like at top five, top six quarterback season
Speaker 14: in a given year. There's only been two quarterbacks, so
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, three quarter No two quarterbacks since two thousand
Speaker 14: have seven or more. And that's Kirk Cousins and Jeff
Speaker 14: Garcia and so okay, let's dropt the six yards, which
Speaker 14: is like a top half season, so above average type
Speaker 14: of quarterback year. You're throwing in Aaron Brooks and that's
Speaker 14: that's the only other guy that you can throw in.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: Got to be on the border line there, but yeah.
Speaker 14: You got the two o nine. So Greees got the
Speaker 14: two on nine, So that's what helps him out, is
Speaker 14: like that. Well, but that's the other thing is Dane
Speaker 14: is a six to four, so he's long and slender,
Speaker 14: and and that's that's another thing, like Breeze is stout.
Speaker 14: That's why actually compared him to kailb Williams is they
Speaker 14: actually kind of are gonna waph out the same. It
Speaker 14: might be like two twelve or something, but I think
Speaker 14: that's my concerns are It's just this is a historical outlier.
Speaker 14: And on top of it, he no one has scrambled
Speaker 14: more over the last five years than Daniels and that's
Speaker 14: how he chooses to play. It's hard and he's reckless.
Speaker 14: So it's really just durability stuff that is my main concern.
Speaker 14: And then on top of it, you know when pulling
Speaker 14: out of the pocket, like defenders pulling out of their grasps.
Speaker 14: So that leaves me just a little hesitant, especially teams
Speaker 14: talking about or people looking at him as a top
Speaker 14: five guy. It's like I grade him more as like
Speaker 14: a late first, early second type that will probably get inflated,
Speaker 14: of course, but I've had some plemishes. I'm writing about
Speaker 14: him right now, and as I can dove more into it.
Speaker 14: I've had more. I have more concerns than I did
Speaker 14: going into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's someone that, like I know that the draftis
Speaker 3: and you guys on prospect, like the QB three discussion
Speaker 3: was a big one all season, like who's going to
Speaker 3: be this third quarterback? And I would say like half
Speaker 3: the country had no idea that Jayden Daniels was going
Speaker 3: to be a consensus top five pick. Doesn't doesn't mean anything, though,
Speaker 3: because we've seen that over and over and then those
Speaker 3: guys do get taken very high and sometimes they're awesome
Speaker 3: and sometimes they're not. Of the guys that are throwing
Speaker 3: at the combine. So you know Michael Pennox and Bo
Speaker 3: Nicks and and is JJ McCarthy throwing Do we know that?
Speaker 2: I think it is?
Speaker 14: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like who's your favorite flavors among among
Speaker 3: the rest of the guys.
Speaker 14: I've grown on McCarthy a little bit, but it's not
Speaker 14: like I'm like, oh, take him in the first round.
Speaker 14: He probably will go because I do think Shanahan coaches
Speaker 14: are going to love him. From that tree.
Speaker 3: There's gotta be a lot of it. There's gotta be
Speaker 3: a lot of Broncos McCarthy. And that's a lot higher
Speaker 3: than you know, or even or even Atlanta at like
Speaker 3: eight or.
Speaker 14: So Atlanta Atlanta or Vikings at eleven. I actually think
Speaker 14: that's the one. I actually think you'll like him. I
Speaker 14: just brought up all that weight stuff. JJ McCarthy has
Speaker 14: the same concerns. He's sub two o five as well,
Speaker 14: and but I actually do think there are some comparisons
Speaker 14: with him and Cousins. When he was coming out of
Speaker 14: Michigan State, Cousins went in the fourth round. You know,
Speaker 14: it's not like he was a top twenty. And McCarthy
Speaker 14: has a couple of things that coaches like. And even
Speaker 14: as I you only have so many snaps with him
Speaker 14: because they didn't throw the ball much. Is that he's
Speaker 14: willing to throw the ball in the middle, like not
Speaker 14: just reckless, but like aggressive. And also he can throw
Speaker 14: on the moves. He's a good athlete, and he's got
Speaker 14: a loose, live arm, and certain coaches from certain offenses.
Speaker 4: They like that a lot.
Speaker 14: Not so much me. I like big arm, throw far,
Speaker 14: you know, but but a guy like this is like
Speaker 14: I can see certain people really liking it, even if
Speaker 14: I don't have that grated as high, but he's kind
Speaker 14: of grown on me. And then after that, like Nixon Penix,
Speaker 14: I'm a lukewarm on or I actually say glass half
Speaker 14: empty on and then and then Spencer Ratler is probably
Speaker 14: another one. I actually do like how he spins the ball.
Speaker 14: His more stuff is more off field and maturity and
Speaker 14: stuff and how he is as a leader, so that
Speaker 14: I'll find out probably more throughout this week, But he's
Speaker 14: another guy worth mentioning.
Speaker 4: How many quarterbacks go in the first round this time around?
Speaker 14: I think four end up going. I think I think
Speaker 14: mccar he gets in there. I think Daniels is in there,
Speaker 14: and then of course May and Williams. I think it'll
Speaker 14: end up be in four.
Speaker 2: It's annoying me.
Speaker 3: You just brought up like seven different quarterbacks and none
Speaker 3: of them was were the subject of most of our
Speaker 3: text messages over the course of the season, which was
Speaker 3: two lane quarterback Michael Pratt. Nice nice mid round option
Speaker 3: for a guy who I think will have a nice
Speaker 3: little career athletic.
Speaker 2: He can make it, make it happen.
Speaker 3: But we don't need to spend time on Prat before
Speaker 3: before you let you go, Nate, and I do want
Speaker 3: to thank you once again for during Super Bowl week
Speaker 3: you invited me out to get off the strip because
Speaker 3: Nate is a Vegas local that was a home game
Speaker 3: for him, and just to go to like a normal
Speaker 3: pizza place in a normal neighborhood of Las Vegas, which
Speaker 3: does apparently exist. And it didn't feel like a breath
Speaker 3: of fresh air. I never had seen that before, and
Speaker 3: it like it really helped recharge me for the week.
Speaker 2: So that was amazing.
Speaker 3: I before we before we let you go, who like
Speaker 3: at a wide receiver position? Are you looking forward to
Speaker 3: seeing this week actually douced up on the field.
Speaker 14: Yeah, it seems like Harrison and neighbors aren't doing anything.
Speaker 14: So in Dunsa Roman Dunza from Washington, I think I'm
Speaker 14: curious what he runs. He's a Vegas guy too. He
Speaker 14: actually went to a high school right down the road
Speaker 14: for me, Bishop Gorman, and he was a track star there.
Speaker 14: But now he weighs about two fifteen to eighteen. I'm
Speaker 14: a huge fan of him. I think Dyland Jeremiah has
Speaker 14: him like as a top three guys. He's a really
Speaker 14: good player. I compare him to Chris Godwin. I'm curious
Speaker 14: how he runs I'm excited to watch him. Another guy
Speaker 14: I'm really excited is Ady Mitchell from Texas. Really has
Speaker 14: grown on me, really twitchy. I transferred from Georgia, big
Speaker 14: pedigree guy, you know, five star type of guy. He
Speaker 14: really grew on me as I watched more and more
Speaker 14: of him. So I want to see how he tests
Speaker 14: because I think he might be able to jump out
Speaker 14: of the gym, and I'm pretty excited to watch that happen.
Speaker 3: I think I think you've said it all, and you've
Speaker 3: got like fifteen other shows that you have to do today,
Speaker 3: including your own, and then you're in You have any
Speaker 3: like night plans here, and I guess you don't need
Speaker 3: to make plans ahead of time in Indianapolis.
Speaker 4: That's what Well Bucky told me yesterday.
Speaker 5: You have to you have to unless Well there were
Speaker 5: conflicting Tell me who was right, Tell me who was right.
Speaker 5: Because Ian said he didn't have to make reservations. Bucky
Speaker 5: said he did. We assume that Ian's just walking into places.
Speaker 4: Because red carpet. Fredian, what do you have to do?
Speaker 14: How do you operate in indian I hope I get
Speaker 14: an invite, Uh, if not, I always I always do
Speaker 14: a roost Chris by myself. I'm a sucker for Chris,
Speaker 14: just going back to I just like it. The chain
Speaker 14: and indies one is pretty good, so I always do
Speaker 14: one meal by myself there. But then usually I'm just
Speaker 14: hoping for an invite somewhere. I know, I got a
Speaker 14: four to fifteen month year old at home. This is
Speaker 14: this is me catching up on sleep this week like that,
Speaker 14: That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: This is real.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I got more curfews than I used to do
Speaker 14: when I used to come to Indianapolis. So yeah, I
Speaker 14: just hope for the invite. I think saying now, most though,
Speaker 14: is you know a little basic Oh. I mean.
Speaker 3: Right there, that's a man who's comfortable in himself that
Speaker 3: he likes spending time with himself and his friend Ruth
Speaker 3: Chris enjoying it as.
Speaker 2: I feel like that was a good kind of entry point.
Speaker 2: We're just starting. It's time to start start grinding that
Speaker 2: that tape.
Speaker 6: Little primer. I feel like I feel behind Nate tics.
Speaker 6: I feel like work that's okay, that's that's his thing.
Speaker 6: He's making rankings. He's one of the draftnicks.
Speaker 3: It's fine to catch up late, you know, kids in
Speaker 3: school especially classes you're not as passionate about cramming is fine.
Speaker 3: Doing doing it all at the last minute's fine if
Speaker 3: as long as you do enough, as long as many paths, right, Like,
Speaker 3: if it's something you love, you love reading and writing,
Speaker 3: you want to put in the work throughout the whole
Speaker 3: semester the class.
Speaker 2: You know you're right the whole time.
Speaker 3: You're not as into science, just just find a cheat,
Speaker 3: not a cheat, but you know, find a way to.
Speaker 2: Cram at the last whatever exactly.
Speaker 3: That's and I enjoy the draft, but I enjoy the
Speaker 3: draft process starting with the combine, and like watching the
Speaker 3: combine is perfect prep for it because you just all
Speaker 3: that stuff from like DJ just becomes osmosis to where
Speaker 3: you're talking about, well.
Speaker 6: They give us that five hundred page right, yef you
Speaker 6: could You're like, oh yeah, an Ola, Who's like drop
Speaker 6: step is too big? Uh, Dan will be back on
Speaker 6: Thursday to really settle this thing down. It always gets
Speaker 6: too long when I'm here running the show. Uh, we
Speaker 6: will be back then and uh for Mark Sessler, for
Speaker 6: Patrick Claybahon four n eight tice for Chris Westling on
Speaker 6: the Top Ten Show, for Eric and Randy behind the
Speaker 6: Glass
Speaker 2: Heat the call