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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of The Round the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm Greg Rosenthal. Citty in for for Dan hansis in.

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Speaker 2: The host chair. I'll be back Thursday.

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Speaker 3: But I'm surrounded by a room filled with some heroes,

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Speaker 3: Mark Sessler and Patrick Clayband.

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Speaker 4: We're here. Hey, guys, it's great to have you back. Patrick.

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Speaker 4: I don't know when when the last visit was scenario.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 5: It was in the playoffs, it wasn't that long. But

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Speaker 5: it also it's anytime I'm not with you, guys, is

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Speaker 5: you feel that? Yeah, So there's a hole that has

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Speaker 3: Right, It's it's like Connor orr or I maybe it

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Speaker 3: was Dan's old saying at the combine, which, uh, if

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Speaker 3: we are not in Indianapolis breaking news. But he used

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Speaker 3: to say back in the day, it's not about the meat.

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Speaker 3: When we would go to Saint Elmos, the famous steakhouse,

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Speaker 3: it's about the meat. Oh, that is a danism, And

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Speaker 3: I would say the same, you know, with hanging out

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Speaker 3: with you. The meat in this case would be the

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Speaker 6: And I mean, I think we did such a good

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Speaker 6: job not going to the combine a year ago. Is

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Speaker 6: that the company, the people high upstairs said let's not

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Speaker 6: send them again because they they seem to thrive by

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Speaker 3: Right If people still listen to the shows anyways, what

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Speaker 3: do they really know? It's fine, Although I gotta say,

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Speaker 3: if you're listening Shadowy League figures out there, I'm officially

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Speaker 3: putting in our request that we want to go back.

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Speaker 3: I think we do for twenty twenty five if we

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Speaker 3: to go back. I think it's fine. It was nice

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: I think we should bring Patrick with us as well,

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Speaker 6: like to make it a full group experience.

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Speaker 5: I too would also like to be employed by this

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Speaker 4: It is a great company.

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Speaker 3: It has been fun going there, but the years off

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Speaker 3: we're fine. And you know what, it was actually almost

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Speaker 3: on some level, it's easier to watch all these combine

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Speaker 3: This time, we just sort of watched on Twitter, watched

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Speaker 6: Right they got them by trading stuff on Diggs And

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Speaker 3: I feel very confident. I believe you, Quessei. Let's see

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Speaker 3: if we believe Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings coach, who's going

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Speaker 4: With the team.

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Speaker 8: The thing about free agencies itself is this is not

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Speaker 5: I believe Kevin o'comm because because again, if it's a

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Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I believe Kirk is in

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Speaker 6: But it's also a proving page actor, like we've seen him,

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Speaker 6: you know, from a musical angle. The Vikings, maybe they're

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Speaker 6: think Kevin o'conne also came out and said, wait a minute,

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Speaker 6: we'll just see what happened, right.

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Speaker 3: I believe that Kirk, all things being equal, like for

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Speaker 3: I believe Kevin O'Connell that Kirk Cousins would rather just

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he? You could see it on the Quarterback Show.

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Speaker 2: It's just logical.

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Speaker 4: You've got kids in school, a.

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Speaker 3: Great you have a great system. If they're not equal,

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Speaker 3: I'm not as confident that Minnesota and Questi will meet

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Speaker 5: And that's why Quesi's answer is believable, and the outcome

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Speaker 3: It's not as Kumbai. I wouldn't say in Chicago. I

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Speaker 10: I will say this. I think you guys know me

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Speaker 10: We're not gona be in a rush, and see what

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Speaker 4: I just put it at about zero percent.

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Speaker 3: You do not say that about your franchise quarterback publicly

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's one thing that makes sense for the Bears,

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Speaker 5: he did not even run a foul of anybody. Now,

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Speaker 5: now the Bears field that they can have a better

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Speaker 2: Like, no, they don't.

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Speaker 5: So Like I don't understand why we have to like

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Speaker 5: But I do believe that he's not angry at Justin.

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Speaker 5: And when it comes to making the trade, it's ultimately

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Speaker 3: And I don't think it's even that. I don't think

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Speaker 3: And yet, like when people are like, well, he's got

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields is available or he's not. The team's trading

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Speaker 3: You need to know that before he.

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Speaker 2: Trade for him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Pole said he wanted to know himself, like

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Speaker 4: Right, he made your decision, right.

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be one of the most fascinating stories

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Speaker 2: That'd be a little wild, but who knows.

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Speaker 3: Let's listen to Joe Shane talk about Daniel Jones's future

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Speaker 2: Joe Shane is the GM of the Giants. I have

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Speaker 3: He was answering questions there about Jones's future, not exactly

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Speaker 6: I can't think of a team that should have a

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Speaker 6: I think they mismanaged this exact process with Jones in

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't believe Joe Shane in this in this

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Speaker 3: I believe is going to be a rookie.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe, I guess in the spirit because he

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Speaker 2: But he said he has faith in it. Yes, I

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Speaker 6: Let's get a few beers in Joe Shane and see

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Speaker 5: But it seems like the obvious scenario we're evaluating in

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Speaker 3: It's crazy that they gave him that contract which guarantees

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Speaker 5: But hey, at least they didn't pay the running back, right,

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Speaker 3: One little nugget there was he opened up the possibility

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Speaker 3: we were their date Mark I would have tried the draft.

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Speaker 3: Dave Canalis the Panthers, you'd want to cover that press,

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Speaker 4: And I think the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I always want to see the new face. And

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Speaker 2: Had a nice workout earlier right in Rock Okay.

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Speaker 3: His just the intensity and the tight fitting likra on him.

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Speaker 11: No plan to fix price Young. I think for me,

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Speaker 11: it's it's about building an offense that we can be

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Speaker 11: Number one, we had to create more explosives and then

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Speaker 2: Vibe I is like, what are you picking up here?

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Speaker 5: I'm picking up that the workout wasn't that intense that

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Speaker 3: It seems like he would be like a good instructor

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think, sir, just maybe a strength trainer.

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Speaker 6: I say that I'd have to caution myself to that

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Speaker 6: It's like that kind of person can rub me the

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Speaker 2: He did a library guys right after that.

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Speaker 12: He said it was like a CrossFit kind of thing

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Speaker 2: Okay, but he framed it us very sweaty.

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Speaker 5: I do think that all of those problems from twenty

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Speaker 5: I do believe him that the plan is to come

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Speaker 6: I think also from his own belief that he can

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Speaker 6: and so why come in and say we need to

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Speaker 3: having a conversation with Bryce youang of just like never

442
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Speaker 3: forget who you are, why you were the one, the

443
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 3: one not me, and like kind of saying, like everything

444
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 3: that happened, like you're still that dude. And that's gonna

445
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 3: be a big part of Canalis, the mental side of it.

446
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 3: I think Mike Daniel did a good job with Tua.

447
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 3: For instance, two had played a couple of years before.

448
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,199
Speaker 3: It's just Bryce young and yeah, I think of Alex Smith,

449
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 3: who had the worst rookie season I've seen from a

450
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Speaker 3: first round pick, certainly a first overall pick, and the

451
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 3: very next year got a good coordinator Norv Turner, and

452
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Speaker 3: played one thousand percent better and went from the worst

453
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Speaker 3: quarterback in the league to like a league average quarterback,

454
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Speaker 3: which is pretty good for a second year.

455
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Speaker 2: They probably are aiming higher with Bryce.

456
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Speaker 3: But I can see the parallels and what you said

457
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Speaker 3: about just making the offense better. One person who is

458
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Speaker 3: not going to make it the offense better in Denver.

459
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Speaker 3: I think it is Russell Wilson. We're going to go

460
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Speaker 3: out of Indianapolis and we're gonna go into what is

461
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Speaker 3: either the home of Russell Wilson or Brandon Marshall.

462
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Speaker 2: I'm not really sure, or I.

463
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Speaker 6: Think it was Russell Wilson. Okay, there's soon to be

464
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 6: sold Denver home. There's comically large books, right.

465
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Speaker 3: I assume this was not Brandon Marshall's podcast studio, because

466
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Speaker 3: I would be like, let's talk to them.

467
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Speaker 2: No, this is because they had some cast. This is

468
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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's house. Okay.

469
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Speaker 12: I think Brandon Marshall makes a couple of comments like

470
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Speaker 12: you see Sierra or Sierra walking around and you're like, oh, there,

471
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Speaker 12: go see so it's it's at Russell Wilson's house.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say I would be a better podcast host

473
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Speaker 3: if I had listened to all of this podcast, because

474
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Speaker 3: I actually want to, because when I heard eighty minutes

475
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Speaker 3: of this, I thought that, actually it's a good use of.

476
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Speaker 2: One point five speed. I don't know if you're into

477
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Speaker 2: that with podcasts.

478
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 3: I approve it now in certain circumstances, not like comedy,

479
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 3: not if you really love the guest or something, but

480
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: if you just for information purpose, this would be a

481
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Speaker 3: good one one point five. But I want to listen

482
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Speaker 3: to it because I have a feeling it's going to

483
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Speaker 3: be fun. But I've listened to about seven or eight

484
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Speaker 3: different sections of it, and some of them were like

485
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Speaker 3: two or three minutes long. So I've listened to a

486
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Speaker 3: lot of it, including this first one on Russell Wilson

487
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Speaker 3: talking about winning is a habit.

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Speaker 13: I think in a twelve year period, there hasn't been

489
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Speaker 13: much that I haven't gone through. I've been through all

490
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Speaker 13: the winning, been through some of the losing, not all

491
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Speaker 13: of it. Some of them don't get used to it

492
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 13: right right, because so many people get used to losing

493
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 13: right right. Winning is a habit but losing is too,

494
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Speaker 13: and that's not a habit I'm taking in.

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Speaker 14: That's not a habit I believe in.

496
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Speaker 2: Does not believe it. The haircuts different. I feel like

497
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: it means business.

498
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: He's now freshly shorn, wearing it tight like like a

499
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 3: Patrick clay Bond. Russell Wilson also tried to leave open

500
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Speaker 3: the possibility that he could stay in Denver.

501
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Speaker 13: I got more fire than ever, honestly, especially over the

502
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Speaker 13: past two years of what I've gone through. Whether it's

503
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Speaker 13: in Denver or somewhere else. I hope it's in Denver,

504
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 13: you know. I hope I get to finish there. I

505
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 13: committed there. I wanted to be there. You know I

506
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Speaker 13: want to be there.

507
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Speaker 4: Hold On, you can go back to Denver, bro go

508
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 4: back there. You can play with Coach Payton again. Yeah.

509
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Speaker 3: That was Russell Wilson and Brandon Marshall on the I

510
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Speaker 3: Am Athlete podcast.

511
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think you can just have to look

512
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 6: at the Russell Wilson experience in a different way than

513
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 6: someone else answering that question, like he's admitting no defeat.

514
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 6: I wilso for He's an easy target and I find

515
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 6: him grading to listen to. If he goes on and

516
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 6: on about his sports psychology stuff. But the one honest

517
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 6: comments I thought he said during the season was that

518
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 6: how hard last year was for him and how hard

519
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 6: this season was just to be a different to be

520
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 6: seen so differently. I can't think of another quarterback that

521
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 6: went from star power to off like completely. We look

522
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 6: at them as like a failure at this point, and

523
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Speaker 6: to go through that personally probably would try you. But like,

524
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Speaker 6: I don't think in his world of worlds, he's getting paid.

525
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 6: He's gonna get paid a ton of guaranteed money. Was

526
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Speaker 6: why would you want to go back into this culture

527
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Speaker 6: and this experience which coach Sean Payton, who openly doesn't want.

528
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Speaker 3: You to beat no body language and tone did a

529
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 3: lot of work there because when Brandon Rushall was like

530
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Speaker 3: really and he was, and then Russell the question by

531
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Speaker 3: Brandon mark yeah, and Russell Wilson gives him kind of

532
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Speaker 3: like a yeah, he'd sort of like give him a

533
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: like well maybe you know, you know, not.

534
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Speaker 5: Really yeah, It's it's not something that he's going to

535
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 5: personally enjoy, Like I don't think russ And is going

536
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 5: to be chilling at Sean Payton's house and they're going

537
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 5: to be sharing memories about their their times together. But

538
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 5: I do think Russ would like a chance to be

539
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 5: a starting quarterback somewhere. And if that's Denver, he'll he'll take.

540
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 5: He'll take that, chick, that's your only chance. Yeah, if

541
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Speaker 5: that's if that's the only one. But yeah, it's grading

542
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 5: and it gives weird podcast grifter But like I wonder,

543
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 5: like because so many of those people, like we have

544
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 5: a nation of people that got grifted. People bought all

545
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 5: those power Energy band bracelets and and like list listen

546
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 5: to hours of Tony Robbins Power Energy. Yeah, there was

547
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 5: there was this company that they they put Hologram.

548
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: Actually, my son Walker it has does wear this one

549
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: that they said is good for like your stomach, uh

550
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 3: if you get carsick, which I I think it has

551
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 3: as much effectiveness, but it tricks him into thinking it works.

552
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 5: But yeah, like it's weird that people fall for all

553
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 5: that stuff. But for some reason, like Russell Wilson can't

554
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 5: necessarily get away with it.

555
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 4: But I think it's all the same.

556
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: Mmm. But it's a point.

557
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 4: It's just.

558
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 5: He is tiring, but he's a better quarterback than facing

559
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 5: Rudolph you know, Well, sure, and like the price tag

560
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 5: clearly is the difference, but it just it feels weird

561
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 5: if he's if he's priced out.

562
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Speaker 3: I do worry about him, though, because he's just this

563
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: relentless positivity, positivity. He's gonna believe that his belief will

564
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: take him to the next level because it has. He's

565
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: achieved more than anyone would have ever imagined a third

566
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Speaker 3: round pick who is a Super Bowl champion, one of

567
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Speaker 3: the seven or eight best quarterbacks of the last like

568
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: ten Yarnine Pro Bowl, right, Like, he's achieved.

569
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Speaker 2: It all, and yet I don't.

570
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's coming He's a not This isn't

571
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 3: This doesn't happen to every quarterback, but for him, I

572
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: don't give much chance of it coming back. It's not

573
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: coming back. And I don't think even the starting job

574
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 3: is coming back. And so for him to adjust to

575
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Speaker 3: what that's gonna be, like, I think it's gonna be difficult,

576
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: and I thought it was gonna be difficult sometimes for

577
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: guys and they end up doing it really well. I

578
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: think Cam Newton transitioned into that second Patriots phase of

579
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: his career pretty damn.

580
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Speaker 2: Well and it worked for him.

581
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Speaker 3: So maybe Russell Wilson will end up doing that even

582
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Speaker 3: if he's not playing that well, like where he's a

583
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: good teammate and like he fits in and it's fine.

584
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Speaker 3: But to me, it's gonna be hard for him to

585
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Speaker 3: adjust to a point where he's like backing up Drake

586
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 3: may or something like.

587
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Speaker 6: And when the Steelers tell us, and I don't know

588
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 6: if I believe them at this point either that they

589
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 6: they're not chasing another quarterback. I'm struggling to find the

590
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 6: team out there that inside their building convinced themselves Russell

591
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 6: Wilson can be our starting quarterback and this is gonna

592
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 6: work well.

593
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: Right, So he's probably gonna get cut.

594
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Speaker 3: He sent a video of him working out today with

595
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Speaker 3: Brandon Marshall.

596
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Speaker 2: They're working out together two.

597
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Speaker 3: You know, love Nipsey Hustle, but I feel like we

598
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: got to move on from the like grinding on my

599
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: grinding all my life song is the song for every

600
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: workout video for pro athletes. At some point we need

601
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: to move past that. We're not moving past Sean Payton, though,

602
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: who had kind of amazing comments. You know, he's getting

603
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: annoyed by Russell Wilson continuing to talk about the contractual

604
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: nefarious stuff that Russell Wilson was asked to do by

605
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Speaker 3: the Broncos. And you know, it's annoying the Broncos that

606
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: Russe Wilson keeps bringing this up. I think that might

607
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: be why Sean Payton kept talking about it on Tuesday.

608
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Speaker 1: I saw this like humorous meme the other day where

609
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: there's a Bronco fan with a shirt on and there

610
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: was like eight quarterbacks names with a cross through it,

611
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, and he's drinking the quarterback kool aid. And

612
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, our job is to make sure that this

613
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: next one, you know, doesn't have a line through it.

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00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: M I do believe him, Yes, I believe him the

615
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: next one. The fact that he says the next one.

616
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: He also put a timeline on Wilson.

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Speaker 1: So I would I would anticipate it being, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: within the next two weeks.

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Speaker 2: You don't think this is going to go to the

620
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Speaker 2: Eve of.

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Speaker 14: Mar I think I just said the next two weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: next two weeks.

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Speaker 2: I love a little fiery John Payton. He I a

624
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: fun value add to have back.

625
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

626
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 6: I'm trying to remember how he was at the very

627
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 6: start of his career. But he has zero He openly

628
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 6: has zero patients for half of these conversations at this point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's he's clear, he lets us know. And

630
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: and that's the thing.

631
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Speaker 5: It's easy to believe Sean Payton because you know he's

632
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 5: gonna say whatever comes to mind, and he said it there.

633
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna go hard.

634
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: He's got the Paris you know, Saint Germain, the cool

635
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: hoodie on, and he's got the Jordan's and he's living

636
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: like I don't you know, he's doing fine. Let's uh,

637
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna listen to a few more people if we

638
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: believe him or not. And uh, before we do that, though,

639
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna take a little break. We are back, and

640
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: so are the stars of tomorrow taking the field in Indianapolis.

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648
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Speaker 3: wants to watch some combine action walker walk.

649
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a competist, he's been in it.

650
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: He was all excited because they were showing old NFL

651
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Speaker 3: combines apparently on like the NFL channel, and he was confused,

652
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: thought that was live.

653
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Speaker 2: I was like, no, don't watch this, let's wait.

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Speaker 6: I also saw he was watching in those Top ten

655
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Speaker 6: shows with an old clip.

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Speaker 3: Wes he is he is a true junkie, and so

657
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Speaker 3: he was using his TV time to watch old Top

658
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Speaker 3: ten in Season Trades I believe was the episode and

659
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Speaker 3: Wes was spout and wisdom about the Bobby Lane trade

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Speaker 3: from Detroit, which is the most West thing ever, and

661
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Speaker 3: talking about this curse and uh, it's a beautiful it

662
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Speaker 3: truly is a beautiful thing. Like walking room and see

663
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Speaker 3: your son and he's watching this thing and Wes is

664
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Speaker 3: on it. So Wes lives on and that like he

665
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Speaker 3: was so strong in those episodes if if you ever

666
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Speaker 3: have a hanker, and you should go check check those.

667
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Speaker 2: Was made for the for that And I was on

668
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Speaker 2: that episode too, and you.

669
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Speaker 4: Were also made for that content.

670
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Speaker 5: You know you were, because like when I see those

671
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Speaker 5: number interstitials on the Montens and there's like a ball

672
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Speaker 5: bursting through an aquarium with the number six on it,

673
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Speaker 5: and then Greg false face comes up like.

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Speaker 3: That, or it's like, wait, why are there like like

675
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Speaker 3: five buck some cheerleaders and then number seven, it's like wait,

676
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Speaker 3: why are they there? Exactly, but that's like the whole

677
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: show is just like the cheerleader you know in the interstitials.

678
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Speaker 6: Does your does Walker think that every dad is just

679
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Speaker 6: hanging out on telegon?

680
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Speaker 5: Oh?

681
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: I asked him that he thinks it's cool. But but no,

682
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: I was bad back. We all get better at our jobs.

683
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: You were saying you had regrets. I believe about an

684
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: interview you just did yesterday. I often to have regrets

685
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: about performances on this show. And I can say, without

686
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Speaker 3: a doubt, if if I could do those top tens again,

687
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: I would be better at him now than I was

688
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Speaker 3: seven or eight years Well, I would.

689
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Speaker 6: Say one thing behind the glass, like they often are

690
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 6: filmed at the combine and like it's like go out

691
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Speaker 6: till three in the morning and illness at seven in

692
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Speaker 6: the morning.

693
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Speaker 3: That was a little bit of it. But yeah, Emica

694
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Speaker 3: came over and she supported my claib. She's like, yeah,

695
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: you're just so chill. Why are you just and I'm

696
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: just like being very like chill and laid back, which

697
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: is not the way to do that. You gotta be

698
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: more like Da Damn Damon, Ammon, Doloria or whatever. You

699
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: gotta come hot. You got to come decisive. He doesn't

700
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: not that I would do that. I'm just saying, trust me,

701
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: we all get better, not things that we do.

702
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Speaker 2: I would be better. We would all be better.

703
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Speaker 4: I think.

704
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't make I didn't make my Combine appearance.

705
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 6: I mean I could do better as well.

706
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Speaker 3: Mark is a striking television presence from you know, he

707
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: came from the the desk guy at NFL Networks in

708
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: twenty You were a different man back then, a bit.

709
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Speaker 6: Of an end around the television executives here. Not sure

710
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Speaker 6: how how that all came together. A. J.

711
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: Brown was on w I P last week, and we're

712
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Speaker 3: going to include him in this do you Believe section

713
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: because it was talked about in Philly and and certainly

714
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Speaker 3: by Howie Roseman at his Combine presser, and A. J.

715
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: Brown was talking about the rumors of whether he would

716
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: want to stay in Philly or not.

717
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Speaker 15: I have no problem. I want to be here that

718
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Speaker 15: I love where I'm at.

719
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Speaker 3: And he also hit on uh, the talk that there

720
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Speaker 3: could be friction with him in his quarterback.

721
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Speaker 15: You know, I think that's total bs. You know, I'm

722
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Speaker 15: not gonna get into me and his relationship on the air,

723
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 15: but it's total bs. You know what I'm saying. Uh,

724
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Speaker 15: it wasn't. It wasn't a problem when I was on

725
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Speaker 15: my game Game Street, it wasn't. It wasn't talking about

726
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Speaker 15: that then. So they only started talking about that when

727
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 15: we started losing. So of course, yeah, you see freaking.

728
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 15: You see freaking from everybody, from front of the coach,

729
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 15: just the player, from everybody. So yeah, so there you go.

730
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Speaker 6: The one the one interesting like dynamic to this was

731
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Speaker 6: that this was on you know, w I P and Philly,

732
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Speaker 6: Like he was sitting around listening to everyone going off

733
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Speaker 6: on the radio and called in.

734
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Speaker 4: It wasn't a schedule, he called it on his own.

735
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Speaker 3: Two That makes me believe. That makes me believe if

736
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Speaker 3: you're going to call in to w I.

737
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Speaker 6: P out of nowhere, right, So I'm willing to think

738
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Speaker 6: that it was a very frustrating meltdown and like, that's

739
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 6: a tough town to have a melt down in. And

740
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 6: I think it's like, look, at it worked really well

741
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 6: the year before. There's still a lot of talented players

742
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 6: on that team, and it's like, I think AJ Brown's

743
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 6: probably found some peace overall. It happened, and it's like

744
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: calling in to say, chill out, it's gonna be fine

745
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 6: from my side of things.

746
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and not to just make it everything about just

747
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 5: how bad the offense was and how disjointed it seemed.

748
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 5: But Jalen was hurt at the end of the season

749
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 5: and so was AJ. Like they were limping across the

750
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: finish line. So you add all of that together, like, yeah,

751
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 5: there's frustrations, like we saw Travis Kelcey go at Andy

752
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 5: Reid in the actual Super Bowl, right, But as AJ

753
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 5: pointed out, they won, so everything's good. Like we don't

754
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: have these outside expectations on their relationship because they won,

755
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 5: So then we're just to assume that everything's fine and

756
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 5: they hug and everything's great. But it's just like such

757
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 5: a binary thing and I'm glad, Like I'm glad that

758
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 5: Aj because people might say, like, oh, he's clearly paying

759
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: too much attention, but like people are talking about like, yeah,

760
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 5: you would like to be able to pick up the

761
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 5: phone and call and say Hey, this is dumb.

762
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: This this has nothing to do anything. So yes, I.

763
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Speaker 3: Believe, I appreciate that, and I hope, I hope they

764
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: keep aj Brown and Devout Dey Smith together for another year.

765
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Speaker 2: I think they will. I think they know what they have.

766
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Speaker 3: It might get a little tricky once Davanta's up for

767
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: new He could get a new contract this offseason, but

768
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 3: they might not address it yet, Like at some point

769
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: they might break those two up. We'll see. I thought

770
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 3: it was interesting Howie Roseman also all but confirmed James Bradbery.

771
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: He did confirm James Bradbury's going to be back with

772
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: the team. I think that's more of a contract thing

773
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: that he has so many, so much guaranteed money in

774
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: his contract.

775
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: But like, if the Eagles had the Chiefs.

776
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: Defense, they would have been like in the conference championship

777
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 3: like and then no one would have been talking about

778
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: the offense. The offense was okay for most of the year.

779
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: Let's move on to back to Indianapolis. Let's talk to

780
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: Elliott Wolf. The fact that Elliott Wolf even had a

781
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: ponium was news. The fact that Elliott Wolf confirmed that

782
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: he has final say on the Patriots roster like this

783
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: has been a slow build.

784
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: It's kind of been the expectation. But Elliott Wolf.

785
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: Is that dude running the Patriots now, and they're right

786
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 3: in the thick of this quarterback talk because they're number

787
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: three overall. Some people think they could take one. Some

788
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: people think they could trade down. What does Elliot Wolf think.

789
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Speaker 9: I think it's a really good year for quarterbacks. It's

790
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 9: a really good year at a lot of positions. Like

791
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 9: any position, we're gonna we're gonna evaluate their strengths and

792
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 9: weaknesses determine who fits for us. We're pretty early in

793
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 9: the process here, like I haven't met any these guys.

794
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 9: Drodd hasn't met any these guys. So you know, as

795
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 9: we continue through the process here, we'll determine what's best

796
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 9: for the team. And you know, one thing about the

797
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 9: quarterbacks in this dress specifically that I'm excited about is

798
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 9: they all look like they're really tough guys, which you

799
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 9: know is obviously great at any position, but the quarterback position, especially.

800
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Speaker 3: Elliot Wolf's dad, Ron the famous He's starting to look

801
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: like Ron Wolf right GM of the Packers. Back in

802
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: the day Fame had a philosophy to drafted quarterback every

803
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: single year ever since I heard that. That's been what

804
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: I then say in articles, and then a podcast was

805
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: like that, well, that's a good move. This drafted quarterback

806
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: every year. It was kind of the Patriots move for

807
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: a while too. Behind Brady and Ron, Wolf would keep

808
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: hitting on these late round picks that would develop into

809
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: backups that would be trade picks or be good people

810
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: behind Brett. So I think Elliott's going to do that.

811
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: Whether he does that with the number three pick or not,

812
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. He also had some interesting comments. I

813
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: think it was in a side session because Eric was

814
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: was grinding tape. He watched it three times over we

815
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: couldn't find anywhere on Twitter. He he made this comment

816
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: that he he didn't want the culture there to be

817
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: as what was it, and he.

818
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 6: Said, certainly right, certainly there's more of an open, less

819
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 6: of a hard ass type hard ass vibe in the

820
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 6: building now post Belichick.

821
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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

822
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I figured if he said that on a camera

823
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 12: in front of a mic, it would have been too

824
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 12: hard to find the video of it.

825
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: Yes, so but.

826
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh that one probably get back to Belichick

827
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: and Wolf shouldn't regret that he said it because he's

828
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: just being honest, but.

829
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Speaker 6: As those ball boys help the negative time probably regarding

830
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 6: saying it, well, it'll become a little thing in Boston either.

831
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Speaker 4: I mean, does it matter.

832
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 5: Because the one thing I don't believe about what Elliott

833
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: said there isn't there early in the process.

834
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.

835
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 5: They've probably done a whole lot of work on the process,

836
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 5: and maybe there's a few conversations that they would like

837
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 5: to have in person, but I think they're pretty far on.

838
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 6: I mean, Elliott wolf has been around, like there are

839
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 6: a lot of like John Schneider and other people that

840
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 6: go way back in the old Green Bay days where

841
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 6: Ron Wolf was there and Elliot Wolfe was like a kid.

842
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 6: People knew him as a kid, like he's been in

843
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 6: the NFL forever. So I find his comments to be

844
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 6: a little not hedging, but like he's not going to

845
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 6: tell us a thing about what they're doing at quarterback.

846
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 6: I'd be stunned if they don't have a bigger planet

847
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 6: quarterback than rerun go back with Mac Jones and Bailey Zappy.

848
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: That they have to be flexible because with a three pick,

849
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: you don't know what quarterback you're gonna get.

850
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: Let's say they like Drake May.

851
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: And as you mentioned and I failed to mention at

852
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: the beginning of the show, we are getting Nate Tyson

853
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: to wrap up this show to talk to some quarterbacks.

854
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 2: You know, who knows.

855
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: Maybe Caleb Williams doesn't get taken one and they love

856
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: caller Williams and they want to trade to two and

857
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 3: they have resources to get him. Or maybe Drake May

858
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: falls to three and they would take him, but they

859
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 3: wouldn't take Jaden Datis or vice versa. Maybe they're really

860
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: in on Jayden Daniels but he ends up going to

861
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: and then you have to be able to pivot. So

862
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that they'll have to do

863
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: before that, including getting I think someone in the building

864
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: through free agency that's at least just there, regardless of

865
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: what they're going to do in the draft. He also

866
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: was very high on calling Michael Oneu a core piece

867
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 3: in someone they want to build a round, which made

868
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: me think a franchise tag could be coming for one U.

869
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: Just the level of support he was putting behind him

870
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: made me think either they're going to get that ill

871
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 3: done or maybe they.

872
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 6: Might when they're the third most caproom in the league.

873
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 6: Right It's like I tend to think they'll be aggressive and.

874
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: Right and when they weren't, as he wasn't as aggressive

875
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: talking about Kyle Duggar, So I don't think a franchise

876
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: tag would happen there. Let's wrap up a couple more

877
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: in Indie. Raheem Morris is the head coach of the

878
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons, and he pointed to one reason why that

879
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: that could be the case.

880
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 16: I'm not afraid to say that we have the ability

881
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 16: and we're capable of go out there and win next

882
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 16: year if we do some of the right things, some

883
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 16: of the right moves, we can do that. And that's

884
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 16: not an arrogance, that's not that's not a cockiness. That

885
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 16: is more of a credit to the people that were

886
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 16: in the building with me still some of the people

887
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 16: that are not there now and what they've been able

888
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 16: to do. You know, if we had better quarterback play

889
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 16: last year in Atlanta, I might not be standing here.

890
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 5: Perhaps the most honest thing that was said, yeah and

891
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 5: correctlying that was said in a podium today from Indianapolis.

892
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: It's one hundred percent true.

893
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 5: I think Desmon Ritter and Taylor Heneke would probably agree

894
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 5: with that as well. I know author's would you know,

895
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 5: maybe there's a few people that think it's Jamis's fault

896
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 5: that Arthur got fired, but I think there was those

897
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 5: are no more things that went into that. Yeah, the

898
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 5: quarterback play was bad. It was especially bad in the

899
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: red zone. They had so many opportunities, and you can

900
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 5: think about them week after week after week, play after

901
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 5: play where they didn't get it done there and go

902
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 5: on the quarterback position and that's that's the way the

903
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 5: game goes.

904
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like one reason for Falcons fans to immediately

905
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 6: appreciate Raheem Morris the way that he's been talked about

906
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 6: from people inside the Rams organization and parts beyond that.

907
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 6: This we needed an energy shift around the Falcons offense

908
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 6: and it's very clear right now that if Desmond Ridder

909
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 6: is hanging around, he'll be a backup. They're going somewhere else,

910
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 6: and that that was important.

911
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, well, that can't be fun to listen

912
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: to if you're Desmond Radder, but it makes a lot

913
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: of sense. I'm excited about this Falcons coaching staff. It

914
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: was interesting I think hearing Sean mcvaigh. He gave a

915
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: press conference in LA because he's not going to the

916
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: combine about the guys that went to Atlanta and really

917
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: believing that they put together a great coaching staff, which

918
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: is you know, diminished the RAMS coaching staff. Uh, but

919
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: that that's how it works. Let's wrap up with Tom

920
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: toe LESCo, who's still in the NFL. He's still in

921
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: the AFC West. He did the rare thing where he

922
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: lost one job and got another that that almost never

923
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: happened to GMS, and it happened to Tom Telesco of

924
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: all people. I don't I don't mind Tom to LESCo,

925
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: but he's not like the guy that you would have

926
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: expected that to happen. He is the guy that was

927
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: asked about DeVante Adams possibly getting traded this offseason.

928
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 14: Another GM asked.

929
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 16: You this week about it whether don demon Vader bail Wisconsin.

930
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 14: He's a raider.

931
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: It's quick everyone, it is true. Everyone took that to

932
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 3: mean like there is no chance DeVante Adams is getting

933
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: traded that. I think that's probably true. I tend to also,

934
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: and I actually don't totally, but I don't believe people

935
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 3: should be having headlines that he said that we will

936
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: not trade Davonte No, and we do.

937
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 6: I think it's important that like Deavante Adams was a

938
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 6: big proponent of Antonio Pierce being hired and liked that

939
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 6: because I think we were heading towards like irritated DeVante

940
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 6: Adams territory with each passing week last season and a

941
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 6: lot to do with the coach that got fired, and

942
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 6: I think he's in a better place. Quarterbacks still a

943
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 6: big question though, Yeah, and.

944
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: It's a question I think they'll need to answer, and

945
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 5: that's something in the conversation they'll need to have with Davante.

946
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 5: But ultimately it's up to Mark Davis and Tom Telesco

947
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 5: to make the circumstances comfortable enough for Davante to be there.

948
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 4: It's it's their choice.

949
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 5: Because I asked, We did TA with Steve Smith Senior,

950
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 5: and I asked him, if you're DeVante, do you want

951
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 5: to be back in Las Vegas. Steve, like a lot

952
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: of people, was like, well, it depends on depends on

953
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 5: the financial circumstances. I mean, they can make it worth

954
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 5: his while to be on a bad football team.

955
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do pay him more money?

956
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 4: If that's if that's what it.

957
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 5: If not that, then yeah, Davante would probably like to

958
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: if he's gonna play football.

959
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

960
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: But if you like living there and they get a

961
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: decent enough quarterback, Justin Fields does that feel.

962
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: Does Justin Field want to be with Luke Getzy? Again,

963
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 4: that's not one that would be that doesn't happen to us. No,

964
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 4: why not? I mean, it just doesn't happen that Well, what's.

965
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 2: To indicate that they wouldn't work together?

966
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: Well, let's get Mac Jones and Matt Patricia.

967
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 2: No, it's not quite the same.

968
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: I guess you're you're saying, as a Justin Fields fan,

969
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: if I could read between the lines here, you don't

970
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: want him to be with Luke Getzy necessarily because you're

971
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: not that confident in Getsy, because otherwise, like it's familiarity

972
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: with the system.

973
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: He just said, Okay, yes, yeah, and I believe Patrick.

974
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: I believe you, Patrick, I believe you.

975
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 3: But there's only so many uh spots where he could land,

976
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: and I feel like that could be okay, And if

977
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 3: I was a Raider fan, I would like that at

978
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: this point, I feel like that would be a good and.

979
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: There would be more hope with Justin I mean, considering

980
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 4: the options.

981
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: He just feels like that's what al Davis would have

982
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: done at this point is go get Justice and Fields.

983
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 6: That would be an enticing matchup and I think you

984
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 6: can get over the OC's part of it, but the

985
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 6: Falcons also linger out there as a.

986
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: They loved other teams.

987
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: Is failed, not failed, but second chance first round pick

988
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: because Justin Fields occupies a weird space where like he

989
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: was better than the average first round quarterback.

990
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 2: Actually, if you think about it, like he's.

991
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: He's better than average, he's just not a top five

992
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: to ten quarterback.

993
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's weird.

994
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: That the way that the draft doesn't feel like it

995
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 5: impacts this as much as Cousins does.

996
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 4: Mm.

997
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, like Cousins is going to slot so much in

998
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 5: the quarterback position because it feels like if Cousins is

999
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 5: not there for Atlanta, then Fields becomes more viable and

1000
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 5: then the field like it may depend like Russell Wilson

1001
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 5: may have a job or may not depending on where

1002
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins goes, because it.

1003
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 4: That's the big chess piece out there.

1004
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've we've now honked for a while. It's

1005
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: been it's been a little bit, but we've got more

1006
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 3: to come. And before we do any of that, we're

1007
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 3: going to take a quick break and then we're actually

1008
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: going to do the news. Then that's wild. We're shaking

1009
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 3: things up, Eric Innovative. After the break, we.

1010
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: Are back and uh, let's do some news.

1011
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: Uh here is uh I'm going to tell you what

1012
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: the news clip is before we even hear it, just

1013
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: to give you a little context. This was Peter King

1014
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: being prompted on NBC Sports Network on the birth of

1015
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: my daughter Ellis.

1016
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 17: Like Ellie as in short for Ellis, and everybody's gonna

1017
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 17: say Ellis Ellie is short for Ellis Burks Rosenthal is

1018
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 17: a sick Red Sox.

1019
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 14: Fan, unlike or just like.

1020
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 17: Somebody else on this panel who shall not be named.

1021
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 17: And my only question is, couldn't you think of a

1022
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 17: better Red Sox?

1023
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 14: You know, Carl william Els Burt's better than name of

1024
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 14: a girl Podge, I guess.

1025
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, that was this show we were on way

1026
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: back in twenty eleven on NBC Sports Network and him

1027
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: roasting me for my daughter's name.

1028
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 5: Hey, congratulations to Greg because we might not have had

1029
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 5: Peter King if he.

1030
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: Was talking about.

1031
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 10: It.

1032
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 4: So celebrating Peter King's twenty six year career.

1033
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was you know, I took it in good spirit.

1034
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: Just the fact that he brought it up. I always

1035
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: remember it's also the oldest thing on my phone. It's

1036
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: the oldest saved thing on my phone. And Peter King,

1037
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: of course, uh retired surprisingly out of nowhere this week

1038
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: wrote his last Football Morning in America column, So happy

1039
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 3: trails Peter King.

1040
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: No one quite like him in football media over the

1041
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: last No, Like I was.

1042
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 6: Thinking about like this one combine many years ago where

1043
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 6: you know, back then you did these long tables were

1044
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 6: you'd write and you'd be sitting down with people from

1045
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 6: other you know, publications and stations, and like Peter King

1046
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 6: came and sat down like a seat away from me,

1047
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 6: and like I was like, I'm not gonna bug him,

1048
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 6: but I was like, this is one of the few

1049
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 6: kind of football reporters slash football minds where I was

1050
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: like kind of starstruck, and like I it's like him

1051
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 6: growing up reading Sports Illustrated, growing up reading these guys

1052
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 6: like doctor Z Paul Zimmerman and Peter King are like

1053
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 6: the two dudes that I would just say had these lengthy,

1054
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 6: incredible careers that where they changed football so much. And

1055
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 6: Peter King, I think the thing the one thing I

1056
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 6: heard about him consistently and over and over, and you

1057
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 6: knew when you were young. Greg in the business was

1058
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 6: that I guess like his most recent going away like

1059
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 6: a going away type dinner. It was a mix of

1060
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 6: like ten old school veteran journalists that he'd worked with

1061
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 6: for ages, but then like ten people that were very

1062
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 6: new to the industry that he just wanted to be

1063
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 6: part of that as well. It seemed to always nurture

1064
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 6: care about young journalists, gave a he really showed incredible

1065
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 6: faith in some of them that aren't journalists anymore.

1066
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 4: It wasn't lifers that he knew would be.

1067
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 6: And I think Peter King is just a very special

1068
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 6: part of this industry and it's like there is no

1069
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 6: replacing him.

1070
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, he kind of bridges the gap of

1071
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: all these generations. And he was like the guy, which

1072
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: it's pretty you know, in an industry as big as

1073
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: you know, football writing, and there were other guys over

1074
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 3: the years, but for a long time, like he kind

1075
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: of was the guy, Like when John Harbaugh, I believe

1076
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: spoke about it a couple people this week of like

1077
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: you know, they're gonna miss they they grew up. Eric

1078
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: Tacosta grew up reading Peter King and have those memories

1079
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 3: of those conversations and he I think the thing he

1080
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: did better than anyone else is he got good. He

1081
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: got players to talk in a way, he got them

1082
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: comfortable to explain the game or explain stories behind the

1083
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 3: game in a way that was really unique. And he

1084
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: did that with Sports Illustrated and then he did that

1085
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: on the web with with MMQB and then you know

1086
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: to TV when he was on Football Night in America

1087
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: and everything. He had a great inside the helmet where

1088
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: he goes through different positions and gets really and I

1089
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: feel like it's probably out of print. I don't even know,

1090
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: but if you could find it, that was a really

1091
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: great inside look where he spends a lot of time

1092
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: with some of the best players in the NFL.

1093
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Speaker 2: And it's back back in the nineties.

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Speaker 4: It's great.

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Speaker 5: And I really think because like watching you guys go

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Speaker 5: around and interact with people, and I do want to

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Speaker 5: celebrate Peter King, but y'all deserve flowers too. And I'm

1098
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 5: gonna be honest, like, because you talked about spanning and

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00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 5: connecting these legacies, like you guys connect those legacies as well.

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Speaker 5: And the one thing that I was thinking about because

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Speaker 5: Peter came on Total Access. The day he retired was

1102
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 5: we ran out of time because you know, Peter writes

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00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 5: a ten thousand word column every single week for thirty years,

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00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 5: so you know, sometimes it can run a little long.

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00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 4: But hopefully the industry.

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Speaker 5: Facilitates growth, right for the next generation of people, Yeah,

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00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 5: they can come through and hopefully get that access and

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00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 5: be around and to do these interviews and to have

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00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 5: these relationships, because sometimes it feels like they won't. But

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00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 5: I think in the people that I'm sitting with at

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00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 5: this table, and you know, the dude who's not here,

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Speaker 5: and of course the nold one's who's not with us anymore,

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00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 5: that legacy is it exists. And I just I don't

1114
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 5: know why I put on me to say this, but

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00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 5: I think.

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00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 6: Well, patricklike that kind of made my week. I don't

1117
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 6: know how sometimes you just kind of forget.

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00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: What you even do during that is that is really

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00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: right back at you appreciated. And it's one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons why I miss going to the combine because that's

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Speaker 3: a week for that. For you you do realize, like

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00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: how long you've been doing this. You see the new

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00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 3: people coming up. It is a time to have those

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00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: sort of meetings, dinners, advice, all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, Peter was very helpful to me that that

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00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: Friday show we did. He actually we had a segment

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00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: my old producer, Matt Casey reminded me where Peter essentially

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Speaker 3: played the fantasy football buffoon, like how am I messing

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00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 3: up in fantasy football? And I was the fantasy quote

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00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: unquote expert, and that was my role on the show,

1131
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: was like the Michael Fabiano of that show. And I

1132
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: would come on and we would talk fantasy. We would

1133
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: talk like reality and fantasy. Peter would sort of talk

1134
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: about his takes and how that would apply to fantasy,

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00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 3: and I would.

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Speaker 2: Kind of come at him.

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Speaker 3: I was like, actually no, And we had fun doing that,

1138
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: and he would he was very nice. He would give

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00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: me and Matt a ride back to the city and

1140
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 3: in his car that made a big difference with a

1141
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: newborn getting back an hour earlier instead of having to

1142
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: take the train. And had great conversations and he was

1143
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: just a great dude. And yeah, that book I mentioned

1144
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: deep interviews and sort of like what it's like to

1145
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: play these positions and stuff with Boomerasis and Barry Sanders

1146
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,479
Speaker 3: Bruce Smith, Jimmy Johnson. It's a really cool, well written

1147
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: book shows I think what he does well. So happy

1148
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: trails to Peter King. We're gonna fly through some news

1149
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: that I just thought was worth noting, So jump in

1150
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: whenever you want to hear.

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Speaker 2: First, let's suck a little just rule stuff.

1152
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 3: The end zone touchdown rule where the ball is fumbled

1153
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: into the end zone and then the other team gets

1154
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: it on the twenty. That's not gonna change. It's over that.

1155
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: That is not going to change. Despite some people thinking

1156
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: is gonna change.

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00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: It's not gonna change.

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00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 6: I find it annoying because of the NFL seems to

1159
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 6: do a good job in the off season of sussing

1160
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 6: out rules that seem to kind of generate a lot

1161
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 6: of like why does this rule still exist? And like

1162
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 6: this is one where you could I think temper like

1163
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 6: the cause and effect of that kind of a fumble

1164
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 6: and it would make sense to everyone, and we're not

1165
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Speaker 6: doing it.

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Speaker 2: I think move it. I think keep the ball, but

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Speaker 2: you move it back to the twenty.

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Speaker 4: I just something like that.

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Speaker 5: I maintained the sideline should be the sideline all the

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Speaker 5: way down there. If somebody fumbles out on the back

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Speaker 5: of the en zone. That's different. Somebody fumbles the en

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Speaker 5: zone and the other team recovers it clearly, But I

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Speaker 5: just don't understand that the sideline outside of the end

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Speaker 5: zone being different.

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Speaker 3: But you know, there's new competition committee members Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 3: Sean McVay. Maybe they weren't into it because like this.

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Speaker 4: Thing, well they didn't even go to the combines.

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00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 3: It didn't even get They must have been on the

1179
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: conference call or whatever. It didn't even get out of committee. Essentially,

1180
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: Stephen Jones talked about it. You benefited from that rule

1181
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Yeah, that's a good point. The other

1182
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: thing I thought, just a quick note we even discussed

1183
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: is Andrew Berry, your guy in Cleveland. I like that

1184
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Speaker 3: he's trying to push and the Browns are proposing pushing

1185
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: back the trade deadline, which I've been talking about for years.

1186
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 3: I think that would be great. So we'll follow up

1187
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Speaker 3: on that if that actually goes through. But I like

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00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: that the Browns are trying to get that done. Some

1189
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 3: business happened over the weekend. T Higgins officially got the

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Speaker 3: franchise tag and some thought is that he might get

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Speaker 3: traded like that that seems to be a more realistic

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Speaker 3: possibility than with most franchise tags. I can't tell if

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Speaker 3: it's just speculation or if there's reasons behind it. Brian

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Speaker 3: Burns also looks likely to get a tag. Dan Morgan,

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Speaker 3: the new Panthers GM said today like if we need to.

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Speaker 6: Essentially, I don't know why you trade Higgins considering who

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Speaker 6: the Bengals are right now, where your position in the AFC,

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Speaker 6: who your quarterback is, and what that wide receiver room

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Speaker 6: starts to look like if you take Higgins off the team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like how much Andre and Josavas are we

1201
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Speaker 5: willing to build this airplane out of Why not run

1202
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 5: it back with Tea at least one more time.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what they will do.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little torn if they're not going to pay

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Speaker 3: t Higgins the money that he'll deserve and will earn

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Speaker 3: next year. And they've been a team that has been

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Speaker 3: willing to just franchise tag guys and then lose them eventually.

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Speaker 3: That's happened a number of time, including with Jesse Beats.

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Speaker 3: I think like you could get a pretty you know,

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Speaker 3: you might be able to get like the seventeenth pick

1211
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Speaker 3: of the draft, or the twentieth pick of the draft

1212
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Speaker 3: and you take a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: There is that crazy. I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's like Diggs Jefferson.

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Speaker 6: If you can pull that off, if you get an offer,

1216
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Speaker 6: I know.

1217
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Speaker 2: You probably the odds are you probably won't get it right.

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Speaker 15: But the.

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Speaker 3: Players coming out now have a pretty high success rate

1220
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Speaker 3: at wide receiver. I was trying to think of teams

1221
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Speaker 3: that would maybe give up a first round pick for

1222
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: Tiggins and this probably wouldn't happen until April anyways. But

1223
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Speaker 3: like the Colts that's in the middle of the draft,

1224
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: the Bucks, if Mike Evans. E's like the Texans, the Bills,

1225
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Speaker 3: the Lions, Like, would you trade for the twenty fifth

1226
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 3: pick for Ti Higgins? I actually I'm maybe leaning no,

1227
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Speaker 3: but I I don't hate it either way.

1228
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends on how you view your window.

1229
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Speaker 5: Like let's say that the punt doesn't doesn't hit the

1230
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Speaker 5: forty nine ers of McLeod is able to recover it,

1231
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Speaker 5: and the Chiefs lose the Super Bowl, like in they're

1232
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 5: out of the Mike Evans run. You know, are they

1233
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Speaker 5: willing Would the Bengals be willing to give Tiggans to

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Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs.

1235
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Speaker 3: Now the Chiefs forget it, but maybe like the Texans

1236
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: or the Lions, or the Colts or the Bucks or

1237
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: there's like a million teams where it's like, would the

1238
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: Bengals look at it like, Okay, let's not just put

1239
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 3: everything into this year. Let's keep stretching this thing as

1240
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 3: much as again, we're gonna page a month.

1241
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Speaker 6: Like literally, it's like late early evening in Indianapolis right now,

1242
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 6: probably someone from the Bengals is talking to someone from

1243
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 6: another team about this topic.

1244
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 4: At this mirrit very low.

1245
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: A couple other quick items I mentioned earlier. The cap

1246
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: went up thirty million dollars. That is unprecedented. It was

1247
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: expected to go up a lot, maybe like eighteen to twenty.

1248
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: This is kind of the after effects of the team's

1249
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: printing money once again, now that the pandemic is, you know,

1250
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 3: in terms of financial repercussions, is kind of in the rearview.

1251
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: And so that's gonna make it easier to keep a

1252
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: guy like t Higgins or a guy like Saquon Barkley.

1253
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: And again, there's too many, too much cap space out there,

1254
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: not enough good players. Some of the decent players that

1255
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: have gotten released though in the last handful days Shack

1256
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: Barrett from the Bucks. He's in my top one to one.

1257
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: He's at eighty. Emanuel Agba, I think, is at the

1258
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: very back end of of the top one to one.

1259
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Speaker 3: A Xavian Howard, the cornerback for the Dolphins. Some of

1260
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Speaker 3: the early cuts.

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Speaker 6: It just all feels financially triggered in these cases. And

1262
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 6: most of these guys are still solid players and we'll

1263
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 6: find another team soon.

1264
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: Right, They're like solid, but not eighteen twenty five cap

1265
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: charge type of guys. The Zavion Howard did have two

1266
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: pretty pretty rough seasons, so I'm not sure the market

1267
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: for him is going to be good. And yeah, I

1268
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: mentioned Brian Burns, and yeah, Brett Veitch, the GM of

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00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: the Chief said they do figure that they're going to

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00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: use the tag. Now he didn't say who it would

1271
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: be on the logic is it would probably be Lagarious

1272
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: Sneed and they're going to try to get Chris Jones sign.

1273
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: In the meantime, Eric tells me we might have some

1274
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 3: breaking news. Let's hear it. Go just read read it.

1275
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: Off for me.

1276
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: There it is right there, the Chief seven form Lagarious Sneed.

1277
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: They're going to use the franchise tag for him. So

1278
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: I wish I had read that like thirty seconds.

1279
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 12: There's ways of communications and then sometimes you get on

1280
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 12: a roll and it's just it's all good.

1281
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: We got it in here.

1282
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 12: I'm messaging you in like seventy five different ways and

1283
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 12: eventually holding the fingers, typing fingers up and Claybahn saw.

1284
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: Them, you know, live in the moment looking to Mars,

1285
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: I dig mysterious eyes.

1286
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not alone. People say they'd like to do that.

1287
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 4: It's a good thing to do. I couldn't imagine spending

1288
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: my time in a better way.

1289
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you kind of have the perfect two seats

1290
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: for it here. It's it's it's a one reason why

1291
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: you Dan and Mark just shut me out of conversations.

1292
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: Dan's just as I mean, look at those things.

1293
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 4: Oh please, what's happening here?

1294
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 5: But I think with burns in speed, like the tag

1295
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 5: as a negotiation strategy, like a step in the negotiation.

1296
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 4: Yes, it seems to becoming a more popular thing.

1297
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it was always popular, but I'm I

1298
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: hear you. I think that's the reason why they created

1299
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: the franchise tag.

1300
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 5: And well as besides its role as a price control metric,

1301
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 5: like just procedurally, like, okay, so we're going to do

1302
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 5: this negotiation, but tag right continue.

1303
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: If anything, Yeah, it's always been about restricting the best

1304
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 3: players from actually leaving the team. It's a vestige of

1305
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: the old free agency system. And if anything, I think

1306
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: they do try to get these these deals done, maybe

1307
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: even more than they did fifteen years ago. But you're

1308
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: right Patrick, most of the time they don't. They just

1309
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: end up stick getting stuck on that tag. And I

1310
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 3: sent some optimism from each two on Chris Jones, we

1311
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 3: will see and maybe who knows, maybe we'll have it.

1312
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Speaker 6: I mean, he said it again. They really really want

1313
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 6: to keep him. I think he wants to stay. He's

1314
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 6: been saying that. The one of the little nugget that

1315
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 6: I thought that the Bucks, both Jason light and Todd

1316
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 6: Bowles came out very strongly saying like, Mike Evans is

1317
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 6: very much in our plans. So yeah, I thought that

1318
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 6: was maybe not going to be the case. And it's

1319
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 6: like they're gonna push to keep him and Baker Mayfield.

1320
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 6: And if I'm a Bucks fan, I like that. I

1321
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 6: will see if we if we can believe them, if

1322
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 6: that's true, Yeah, we'll see.

1323
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure I do believe them.

1324
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 15: Man.

1325
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,959
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be some big offers for Mike Evans.

1326
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: So we'll see if they can match them.

1327
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 5: And it might just honestly, because we're gonna see Derek

1328
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 5: Henry playing somewhere else and it's just it's weird and

1329
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 5: we're going to look back. Mike Evans is going in

1330
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 5: the Bucks Ring of Honor. He may be going the

1331
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 5: Pro Football Hall of Fame just a couple extra years. Like,

1332
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 5: what what's the price?

1333
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 6: You know?

1334
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1335
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 4: I think you keep him in Tampa.

1336
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they would absolutely love to keep Mike Evans,

1337
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: like like they're going to keep Levante David.

1338
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: He expects to stay in Tampa. He's he said as much.

1339
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: We will continue to say things into microphones with our

1340
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: friend Nate Tice coming up after a quick break. Nate

1341
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 3: is going to join us and we'll we'll talk about

1342
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: some of the quarterbacks at the combin. That music can

1343
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: only mean one thing. We've got a guest coming up.

1344
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 3: One I'm very excited about.

1345
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: This is a man.

1346
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: What's backed up Russell Wilson at the University of Wisconsin.

1347
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 3: He is the host of the Athletic Football Show, including

1348
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: a weekly episode called Prospects to Pros with Dane Brubler,

1349
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: which I have personally listened to all season in an

1350
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 3: effort to not be as dumb about the NFL draft

1351
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: process this year.

1352
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 4: A self preg arrives.

1353
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: It's nice.

1354
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 14: Not as dumb because there's only so much I can do.

1355
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: Know you, your your program with with Dane is is great.

1356
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: It's every Wednesday. People should check it out.

1357
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 3: And yeah, no, it's I'm not gonna say it's a

1358
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: total blind spot on this episode on this show, but

1359
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: we don't cover it as much until like right now.

1360
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: So that's that's the purpose of you, Nate, to to

1361
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: get us smart on these matters.

1362
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 14: It's perfect timing for Combine Week. By the way, that

1363
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 14: intro music really reminds me of the four Horsemen in WCW, Laron,

1364
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 14: Arnie Anderson and everything. It's very much so I approve

1365
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 14: of that theme. I seeing people cover that guitar solves

1366
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 14: it's phenomenal. Well, no, what better way to talk about

1367
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 14: the draft than literally Combine Week? Yeah, I think the

1368
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 14: im Sarron moves from the regular season to the draft,

1369
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 14: and here we are in Indian Apples.

1370
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you are there, we are in the studio, and yes,

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01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: our host Dan Hanss loves to play that song as

1372
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: a roar shock test of what people think of and

1373
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: that was I think the first time.

1374
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 6: That we Yeah, we often get like, you know, lonely

1375
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 6: obsessed detective driving through the LA night in a yeah,

1376
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 6: yeah BMW or something.

1377
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 14: So yeah, okay, I like that. Yeah. And something came

1378
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 14: out from nineteen eighty three to nineteen eighty six, Yeah,

1379
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 14: something of that sort. Maybe that's why it's Rick Flair

1380
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 14: in nineteen ninety four, Yeah, because because they still acted

1381
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 14: like it was the eighties, you know, it was ninety five.

1382
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 5: Performing a psychological test on every guest is a very

1383
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 5: damn thing to do. I do because Greg has increased

1384
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 5: his ball draft knowledge, right, Yeah, I wanted to know, Nate.

1385
01:03:55,720 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 5: Do you feel the level of ball knowledge generally has

1386
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 5: impacted things at the combine based on the way that

1387
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 5: it seems like from what I'm hearing from podiums and

1388
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 5: interviews that team officials are very reluctant to say anything.

1389
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 5: Do you think that your contribution to the level of

1390
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 5: ball knowledge has stunted conversation? M just me personally, it's

1391
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 5: it's a team effort.

1392
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 4: Nape, but it's a no.

1393
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 14: I think the general fan has become smarter, and I

1394
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 14: also think the advanced fan has become smarter as well.

1395
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 14: And I think there is a growing I mean, shoot

1396
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 14: you guys, shoot mina, Bill Barnwell, there's many people out

1397
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 14: there that do so much good stuff, and that I

1398
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 14: think that's what it is. I think that people realize, oh,

1399
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 14: there is more to this game rather than just grit

1400
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 14: and who wants it more, which does matter, but also like, yeah,

1401
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 14: the intricacies of the scheme stuff, even the processes. I

1402
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 14: mean there's so many, so many articles you can write,

1403
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 14: but it feels like there's a new article about some

1404
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 14: process us with the draft or training or how teams

1405
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 14: look at guys. So I do think there is some

1406
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 14: of that. And also we're getting to a point where

1407
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 14: coaches aren't showing up for the combine. If you told

1408
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 14: me that ten years ago, five years ago, I'd be

1409
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 14: really like that sick and like so that that blows

1410
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 14: my mind. And the player's stuff I understand, especially after

1411
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 14: post COVID, you know, you know, after kind of the

1412
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 14: changes of what they realized, they ken and cannot do.

1413
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 14: But I do think that people have become more savvy

1414
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 14: as far as like how they answer stuff, even codd stuff,

1415
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 14: because I do think the general fan has bumped up

1416
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 14: a lot. The floor has I think raised up a

1417
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 14: little bit at least. Maybe I'm just in my own

1418
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 14: little bubble, but that's how I think.

1419
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 3: No, I think the attention and look, the draft community

1420
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 3: is bigger than ever, Like there are a lot of

1421
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: draftnicks out there. You got to try to stand a

1422
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 3: part in eate, you got to cover the NFL and

1423
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 3: the draft. And one of the things that I've you know,

1424
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 3: noticed this year is you've been a Drake May guy.

1425
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: And so we got the news this week that the

1426
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: top three expected quarterbacks Caleb Williams, Drake May, Jaden Daniels

1427
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: in whatever order they end up going, that's that's probably

1428
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 3: the consensus order, but who knows. Are not going to

1429
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: throw at the comment that's not surprising, that's not new

1430
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 3: for for top prospects over over the years. But I

1431
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 3: want to talk about them anyways, because you've been You've

1432
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 3: been a May guy throughout and maybe for the for

1433
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 3: the average fan out there, like why are you a

1434
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 3: May guy? And you're you're a Caleb Williams guy too,

1435
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 3: because I hear I hear you rank the two of

1436
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: them probably among the seven or eight, you know, six

1437
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,479
Speaker 3: or seven best quarterback prospects of the last like twelve years,

1438
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 3: where you know you would have had Caleb Williams number

1439
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 3: one in almost every draft. You just like Drake May

1440
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 3: a little bit better, and that the two of them

1441
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: are that high level of prospect. Why why the separation

1442
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 3: between those two and kind of those two as a group,

1443
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 3: what do you think?

1444
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 14: Yeah, they I truly think they are as top tier

1445
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 14: of a prospect as you can get. There's no perfect prospect,

1446
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 14: of course, and that that's going into that and I'll

1447
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 14: just be corny and say that, but I've been kind

1448
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 14: of like officially scouting guys like as far as like

1449
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 14: actually doing this process and watching a six, seven, eight

1450
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 14: games of all twenty two since twenty fourteen was still

1451
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 14: with the I joined the Falcons, and I would say

1452
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 14: in that time period, so that's about a decade, Caleb

1453
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 14: Williams Drake May are up there with Trevor Lawrence as

1454
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 14: in some way, shape or form that top tier prospect

1455
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 14: that I've ever watched. And then you get off of that.

1456
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 14: And I mean I was pretty high on Fields, but

1457
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 14: he was a tier below that. I was high like Stroud,

1458
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 14: I was, you know, a full tier below that. And

1459
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 14: even if I liked him or Richardson, you know, last

1460
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 14: year as well. But I think with these guys, Caleb

1461
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 14: was a guy I got low on during the season

1462
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 14: and then now I just studied him and I'm like, oh, yeah,

1463
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 14: you're awesome and you are supremely accurate, and I think

1464
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 14: that's the under eight. I'll start with Caleb. But that's

1465
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 14: the underaight. Thing with him is that he's really good

1466
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 14: from the pocket and a lot of that scrambling running

1467
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 14: around stuff was out of necessity because that offense blew

1468
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 14: and the offensive line was no good, and I thought

1469
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 14: he didn't get a lot of help, which surprised me.

1470
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 14: From going from TV copy to all the twenty two

1471
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 14: and it just grew and grew and grew. I am

1472
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 14: comparing him the freaking Drew Brees coming out of Purdue

1473
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 14: because of just that accuracy and how he operates. And

1474
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 14: on top of all this stuff, the ad living and

1475
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 14: the creation and everything, I think he has rare contact balance.

1476
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 14: He's he's tremendous to me, I the accuracy in the

1477
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 14: work from the pocket has been so underrated with him.

1478
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 14: And that's why on top of all the cool stuff

1479
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 14: where he gets comparisons to the homes, that's you know,

1480
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 14: that's a cool package. But May and why I prefer him,

1481
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 14: it's one A, one B. They're both top five guys

1482
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 14: to be easy. May to me is the prototype as

1483
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 14: far as size six four, two thirty. He's a great athlete,

1484
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 14: and I think that's been underrated for him this process.

1485
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 14: He is one of the most efficient and explosive scramblers

1486
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 14: in recent memory as far as like coming out of college,

1487
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 14: like as far as just earning first doubts. He's smart

1488
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 14: with getting down too once he gets past there. But

1489
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 14: I think he's gonna run like a four to six something.

1490
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 14: I think he's a very good athlete. On top of it,

1491
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 14: he's aggressive and he works over the middle. And the

1492
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 14: comparison I and why I always want to bring up

1493
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 14: over the middle stuff is I think of that as

1494
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 14: like three point shooting but for quarterbacks. So if you

1495
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 14: can't do that, you have to be an exceptional athlete

1496
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 14: like a Russell Westbrook who can't shoot or if you

1497
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 14: you have to be like Chris Paul and make like

1498
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 14: Joe Burrow is a great example. He doesn't really work

1499
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 14: over in the middle as much as you would think,

1500
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 14: but he's a monster in quick game and he's a

1501
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 14: monster and just accuracy and all that. He's like Chris Paul.

1502
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 14: He can shoot those long twos instead of shooting threes,

1503
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 14: and so to me, you have to have those gifts.

1504
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 14: May does that he launches stuff over the middle with timing,

1505
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 14: with arm strength and with just anticipation throwing the stuff

1506
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 14: like throwing guys open, truly and so sorry, I got

1507
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 14: new headphones because I forgot mine. So how to buy

1508
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 14: twenty dollars headphones at the airport?

1509
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,919
Speaker 2: No, it looks great. It looks like a podcast.

1510
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 14: Yeah right, I know right. I actually thought I would,

1511
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 14: like remember the Dream Team when you know Charles Barkley said,

1512
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 14: I don't know who who they are, but we're gonna

1513
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 14: stomp them or whatever we're gonna say. Like, I feel

1514
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 14: like I have the translation headphones right there. Jerry, I

1515
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 14: think it was, but I think I think uh no,

1516
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 14: but I watched him. It's just he's that total package.

1517
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 14: When I watched these elite guys. The it's hard and

1518
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 14: I'm not really compare any one of my homes, but

1519
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 14: Josh Allen, Lamar, Justin Herbert, those type of guys, a Burrow,

1520
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 14: even a Dak Prescott or Matthew Stafford. They worked that

1521
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 14: over the middle, over and over and over. It is

1522
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 14: because that is the juiciest area to create explosive plays,

1523
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 14: but it requires a lot of balls from the quarterback.

1524
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: So I saw you as that.

1525
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 6: I saw you doing a sit down with the Chicago Bears.

1526
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 6: I might have been a radio station or a pod

1527
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 6: of it was recent and you were you were pounding

1528
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 6: the table for May. And like even this morning on Twitter,

1529
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 6: I've seen some people coming from such a different place

1530
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 6: on that quarterback. And you've got people that look at

1531
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams and say a big chunk of what he

1532
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 6: did in college won't work or translate to the NFL.

1533
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 4: It's like so the opinions all over the place.

1534
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 6: But if you're the Chicago Bears and this dog and

1535
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 6: Pony show about what might happen with fields like are

1536
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 6: do you have to believe that they're looking at these

1537
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 6: two quarterbacks the same that you are saying. This is

1538
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 6: an absolute upgrade from justin Fields and with out end question,

1539
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 6: no matter what we're saying publicly, these two guys or

1540
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 6: who you move on from your current current quarterback to

1541
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 6: get one of them if it's and I don't know

1542
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 6: which one it is, but it's like their heads and

1543
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 6: tails better than Fields in your mind.

1544
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 13: I do.

1545
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 14: And even though I am still high on Fields and

1546
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 14: still think he could be a pretty good quarterback in

1547
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 14: this league. I just think he has blemishes that I

1548
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 14: don't know if he can overcome with his throwing style.

1549
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 14: I just talked about all that stuff throwing over the middle.

1550
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 14: Fields doesn't do that. He's not good and quick game.

1551
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 14: He actually, like his upside still is almost like a

1552
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 14: Russell Wilson when in his prime, you know, running around

1553
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 14: launching great deep balls, having some limitations and some of

1554
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 14: the stuff, you know, throwing stuff underneath and over the middle.

1555
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 14: So when I look at that, and like I said,

1556
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 14: these two as prospects, I still view higher than Fields,

1557
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 14: even though I Fields might be five or six. You

1558
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 14: know the guys will watch in the last ten years,

1559
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 14: but I think these guys are a tier better and

1560
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 14: because they do the things that Fields has shown that

1561
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 14: he hasn't been able to do even with a little

1562
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 14: better situation this past year. And that's even before getting

1563
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 14: into the contract stuff. And I know, kind of fake

1564
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 14: smart people want to like use that as like a

1565
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 14: whole talking point, but it doesn't matter. And resetting the

1566
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,839
Speaker 14: rookie contract scale, especially when you're paying guys like Montese

1567
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,759
Speaker 14: sweat and stuff like that, so that helps the argument

1568
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 14: as well. I said on that Little Bears podcast too,

1569
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 14: and oh that's mean, but That Bears Podcast two is

1570
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 14: that it was that I love those guys. I don't

1571
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 14: know why I said little, but there's like one of

1572
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 14: them asked like, would you bump if they traded with

1573
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 14: Washington flopped at one pick and got the other guy,

1574
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 14: and that it was May in this example. I was like,

1575
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 14: that's ideal to me if you look at them in

1576
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 14: the same tier, which is what I do, that would

1577
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 14: be the ideal on trade fields, move back to to

1578
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 14: get even more capital and then take the other guy,

1579
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 14: the one b.

1580
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 4: Of the of the two guys, right.

1581
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1582
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to spend anymore on this because I

1583
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: want to get to the other quarterbacks. But it does

1584
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: concern me that like one of these two guys is

1585
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 3: going to be coached by the same guy that was

1586
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 3: coaching that that terrible USC offense and a year ago

1587
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: that suddenly like everyone's like, wow, this was really hard

1588
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 3: to watch this offense, and it's like that guy is

1589
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 3: going to be coaching one of them.

1590
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: But let let's let's move let's move on from that.

1591
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's go down to Jaden.

1592
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,799
Speaker 5: I've I've called it amateur kinesiology right with the body

1593
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 5: type concerns. How concerned are you with Jaden's body type?

1594
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 14: I'm I am concerned. I'm going to put on my

1595
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 14: boomer scout hat on a little bit.

1596
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 15: Uh.

1597
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 14: He's got narrow shoulders and that's frame. It's all about,

1598
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 14: you know, filling out the frame. Even the guy like c. J.

1599
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 14: Stroud last year I was two fourteen. I think he

1600
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 14: has broad shoulders and big hands. And why I'm bringing

1601
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 14: that up is framed to grow. He's already gained.

1602
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: That's like me sixty big shoulders, big hands. I've always

1603
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 3: had potential to just get figure. Yeah.

1604
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 14: No, But with Daniels is that I think he's maxed out,

1605
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 14: Like he's already sixty pounds. I think he went into

1606
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 14: college at one a ridiculously low weight with Arizona State.

1607
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 14: And when you look at quarterbacks, and this is honestly

1608
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 14: I remember coming on here quarterbacks under two ten, not

1609
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 14: even two of five, which is what Daniel's list of

1610
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 14: that and I think he's more like one ninety five

1611
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 14: is you can It's hard to find a quarterback under

1612
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 14: two ten or even two of five that has had

1613
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 14: long term success in the NFL. If you look even

1614
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 14: since two thousand, the year two thousand, the only quarterback

1615
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 14: to have I adjusted net yards you know, touchdowns and

1616
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 14: interceptions to take away sack yardage uh seven or more

1617
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 14: is usually like at top five, top six quarterback season

1618
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 14: in a given year. There's only been two quarterbacks, so

1619
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, three quarter No two quarterbacks since two thousand

1620
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 14: have seven or more. And that's Kirk Cousins and Jeff

1621
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 14: Garcia and so okay, let's dropt the six yards, which

1622
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 14: is like a top half season, so above average type

1623
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 14: of quarterback year. You're throwing in Aaron Brooks and that's

1624
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 14: that's the only other guy that you can throw in.

1625
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 4: There.

1626
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: Got to be on the border line there, but yeah.

1627
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 14: You got the two o nine. So Greees got the

1628
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 14: two on nine, So that's what helps him out, is

1629
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 14: like that. Well, but that's the other thing is Dane

1630
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 14: is a six to four, so he's long and slender,

1631
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 14: and and that's that's another thing, like Breeze is stout.

1632
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 14: That's why actually compared him to kailb Williams is they

1633
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 14: actually kind of are gonna waph out the same. It

1634
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 14: might be like two twelve or something, but I think

1635
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 14: that's my concerns are It's just this is a historical outlier.

1636
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 14: And on top of it, he no one has scrambled

1637
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 14: more over the last five years than Daniels and that's

1638
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 14: how he chooses to play. It's hard and he's reckless.

1639
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 14: So it's really just durability stuff that is my main concern.

1640
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 14: And then on top of it, you know when pulling

1641
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 14: out of the pocket, like defenders pulling out of their grasps.

1642
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 14: So that leaves me just a little hesitant, especially teams

1643
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 14: talking about or people looking at him as a top

1644
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 14: five guy. It's like I grade him more as like

1645
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 14: a late first, early second type that will probably get inflated,

1646
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 14: of course, but I've had some plemishes. I'm writing about

1647
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 14: him right now, and as I can dove more into it.

1648
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 14: I've had more. I have more concerns than I did

1649
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 14: going into it.

1650
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's someone that, like I know that the draftis

1651
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 3: and you guys on prospect, like the QB three discussion

1652
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: was a big one all season, like who's going to

1653
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 3: be this third quarterback? And I would say like half

1654
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: the country had no idea that Jayden Daniels was going

1655
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 3: to be a consensus top five pick. Doesn't doesn't mean anything, though,

1656
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 3: because we've seen that over and over and then those

1657
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 3: guys do get taken very high and sometimes they're awesome

1658
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 3: and sometimes they're not. Of the guys that are throwing

1659
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: at the combine. So you know Michael Pennox and Bo

1660
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 3: Nicks and and is JJ McCarthy throwing Do we know that?

1661
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: I think it is?

1662
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 14: Thank you?

1663
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like who's your favorite flavors among among

1664
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 3: the rest of the guys.

1665
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 14: I've grown on McCarthy a little bit, but it's not

1666
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 14: like I'm like, oh, take him in the first round.

1667
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 14: He probably will go because I do think Shanahan coaches

1668
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 14: are going to love him. From that tree.

1669
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 3: There's gotta be a lot of it. There's gotta be

1670
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 3: a lot of Broncos McCarthy. And that's a lot higher

1671
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 3: than you know, or even or even Atlanta at like

1672
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 3: eight or.

1673
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 14: So Atlanta Atlanta or Vikings at eleven. I actually think

1674
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 14: that's the one. I actually think you'll like him. I

1675
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 14: just brought up all that weight stuff. JJ McCarthy has

1676
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 14: the same concerns. He's sub two o five as well,

1677
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 14: and but I actually do think there are some comparisons

1678
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 14: with him and Cousins. When he was coming out of

1679
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 14: Michigan State, Cousins went in the fourth round. You know,

1680
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,839
Speaker 14: it's not like he was a top twenty. And McCarthy

1681
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 14: has a couple of things that coaches like. And even

1682
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 14: as I you only have so many snaps with him

1683
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 14: because they didn't throw the ball much. Is that he's

1684
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 14: willing to throw the ball in the middle, like not

1685
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 14: just reckless, but like aggressive. And also he can throw

1686
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 14: on the moves. He's a good athlete, and he's got

1687
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 14: a loose, live arm, and certain coaches from certain offenses.

1688
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 4: They like that a lot.

1689
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 14: Not so much me. I like big arm, throw far,

1690
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 14: you know, but but a guy like this is like

1691
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 14: I can see certain people really liking it, even if

1692
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 14: I don't have that grated as high, but he's kind

1693
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 14: of grown on me. And then after that, like Nixon Penix,

1694
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 14: I'm a lukewarm on or I actually say glass half

1695
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 14: empty on and then and then Spencer Ratler is probably

1696
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 14: another one. I actually do like how he spins the ball.

1697
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 14: His more stuff is more off field and maturity and

1698
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 14: stuff and how he is as a leader, so that

1699
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 14: I'll find out probably more throughout this week, But he's

1700
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 14: another guy worth mentioning.

1701
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 4: How many quarterbacks go in the first round this time around?

1702
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 14: I think four end up going. I think I think

1703
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 14: mccar he gets in there. I think Daniels is in there,

1704
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 14: and then of course May and Williams. I think it'll

1705
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 14: end up be in four.

1706
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: It's annoying me.

1707
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 3: You just brought up like seven different quarterbacks and none

1708
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 3: of them was were the subject of most of our

1709
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 3: text messages over the course of the season, which was

1710
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 3: two lane quarterback Michael Pratt. Nice nice mid round option

1711
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 3: for a guy who I think will have a nice

1712
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 3: little career athletic.

1713
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: He can make it, make it happen.

1714
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 3: But we don't need to spend time on Prat before

1715
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 3: before you let you go, Nate, and I do want

1716
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 3: to thank you once again for during Super Bowl week

1717
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 3: you invited me out to get off the strip because

1718
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 3: Nate is a Vegas local that was a home game

1719
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 3: for him, and just to go to like a normal

1720
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 3: pizza place in a normal neighborhood of Las Vegas, which

1721
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 3: does apparently exist. And it didn't feel like a breath

1722
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 3: of fresh air. I never had seen that before, and

1723
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 3: it like it really helped recharge me for the week.

1724
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 2: So that was amazing.

1725
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: I before we before we let you go, who like

1726
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 3: at a wide receiver position? Are you looking forward to

1727
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 3: seeing this week actually douced up on the field.

1728
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, it seems like Harrison and neighbors aren't doing anything.

1729
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 14: So in Dunsa Roman Dunza from Washington, I think I'm

1730
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 14: curious what he runs. He's a Vegas guy too. He

1731
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 14: actually went to a high school right down the road

1732
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 14: for me, Bishop Gorman, and he was a track star there.

1733
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 14: But now he weighs about two fifteen to eighteen. I'm

1734
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 14: a huge fan of him. I think Dyland Jeremiah has

1735
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 14: him like as a top three guys. He's a really

1736
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 14: good player. I compare him to Chris Godwin. I'm curious

1737
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 14: how he runs I'm excited to watch him. Another guy

1738
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 14: I'm really excited is Ady Mitchell from Texas. Really has

1739
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 14: grown on me, really twitchy. I transferred from Georgia, big

1740
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 14: pedigree guy, you know, five star type of guy. He

1741
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 14: really grew on me as I watched more and more

1742
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 14: of him. So I want to see how he tests

1743
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 14: because I think he might be able to jump out

1744
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 14: of the gym, and I'm pretty excited to watch that happen.

1745
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 3: I think I think you've said it all, and you've

1746
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 3: got like fifteen other shows that you have to do today,

1747
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: including your own, and then you're in You have any

1748
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 3: like night plans here, and I guess you don't need

1749
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,440
Speaker 3: to make plans ahead of time in Indianapolis.

1750
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 4: That's what Well Bucky told me yesterday.

1751
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 5: You have to you have to unless Well there were

1752
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 5: conflicting Tell me who was right, Tell me who was right.

1753
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 5: Because Ian said he didn't have to make reservations. Bucky

1754
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 5: said he did. We assume that Ian's just walking into places.

1755
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 4: Because red carpet. Fredian, what do you have to do?

1756
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 14: How do you operate in indian I hope I get

1757
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 14: an invite, Uh, if not, I always I always do

1758
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 14: a roost Chris by myself. I'm a sucker for Chris,

1759
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 14: just going back to I just like it. The chain

1760
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 14: and indies one is pretty good, so I always do

1761
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 14: one meal by myself there. But then usually I'm just

1762
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 14: hoping for an invite somewhere. I know, I got a

1763
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 14: four to fifteen month year old at home. This is

1764
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 14: this is me catching up on sleep this week like that,

1765
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 14: That's what I'm doing.

1766
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 4: This is real.

1767
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, I got more curfews than I used to do

1768
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 14: when I used to come to Indianapolis. So yeah, I

1769
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 14: just hope for the invite. I think saying now, most though,

1770
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 14: is you know a little basic Oh. I mean.

1771
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 3: Right there, that's a man who's comfortable in himself that

1772
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 3: he likes spending time with himself and his friend Ruth

1773
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 3: Chris enjoying it as.

1774
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 2: I feel like that was a good kind of entry point.

1775
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 2: We're just starting. It's time to start start grinding that

1776
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: that tape.

1777
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 6: Little primer. I feel like I feel behind Nate tics.

1778
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 6: I feel like work that's okay, that's that's his thing.

1779
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 6: He's making rankings. He's one of the draftnicks.

1780
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 3: It's fine to catch up late, you know, kids in

1781
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 3: school especially classes you're not as passionate about cramming is fine.

1782
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 3: Doing doing it all at the last minute's fine if

1783
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 3: as long as you do enough, as long as many paths, right, Like,

1784
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 3: if it's something you love, you love reading and writing,

1785
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 3: you want to put in the work throughout the whole

1786
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 3: semester the class.

1787
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: You know you're right the whole time.

1788
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 3: You're not as into science, just just find a cheat,

1789
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 3: not a cheat, but you know, find a way to.

1790
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 2: Cram at the last whatever exactly.

1791
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 3: That's and I enjoy the draft, but I enjoy the

1792
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 3: draft process starting with the combine, and like watching the

1793
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 3: combine is perfect prep for it because you just all

1794
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 3: that stuff from like DJ just becomes osmosis to where

1795
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 3: you're talking about, well.

1796
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 6: They give us that five hundred page right, yef you

1797
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 6: could You're like, oh yeah, an Ola, Who's like drop

1798
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 6: step is too big? Uh, Dan will be back on

1799
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 6: Thursday to really settle this thing down. It always gets

1800
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 6: too long when I'm here running the show. Uh, we

1801
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 6: will be back then and uh for Mark Sessler, for

1802
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 6: Patrick Claybahon four n eight tice for Chris Westling on

1803
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 6: the Top Ten Show, for Eric and Randy behind the

1804
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 6: Glass

1805
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 2: Heat the call