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Speaker 2: Well, we've got three and we have a quorum here
Speaker 2: on Wednesday ten am at the Star on Dallascowboys dot Com,
Speaker 2: which on Monday we would not have had a quorum
Speaker 2: because there would only been two of us. So we
Speaker 2: took liberties thanks to producer Supreme Chris, to move to
Speaker 2: ten o'clock on Wednesday. And so it seems like forever
Speaker 2: since we've had a mix shots, and so much has
Speaker 2: taken place.
Speaker 3: So much, way too much.
Speaker 2: It seems like every day. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: just to give you an idea of how things happened,
Speaker 2: I left here at three forty yesterday afternoon. By time
Speaker 2: I got home, it got reported that Jonathan Hankins had
Speaker 2: agreed to deal with Seattle. Yeah, wow, so we've got
Speaker 2: let's see Leyton vander Ash failing physical released and then
Speaker 2: announced his retirement, which was really no surprise. Over the
Speaker 2: last I guess nine days since we've had a show,
Speaker 2: We've had Michael Gallup released, We've had Tyron Smith sign
Speaker 2: with the New York Jets. The Cowboys re signed Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott restructured the restructure bonus on his deal. Did
Speaker 2: Eric Kendrick sign after our last show, I believe, which
Speaker 2: would be one of the Cowboys big free agent pickups
Speaker 2: we've had. The coaching staff officially announced. There has been
Speaker 2: so much going on this first week and a half
Speaker 2: of free agency, it's hard to keep up with everything.
Speaker 2: But we will try here the best we can to
Speaker 2: cover everything that's going on here since the start of
Speaker 2: free agency on March thirteenth. What's the day, the twenty
Speaker 2: first day, the twenty first day of spring? Is that
Speaker 2: what we're supposed to yesterday? Yesterday? Okay? So and you
Speaker 2: miss what was that?
Speaker 3: We have a we have a starting run back.
Speaker 2: So that gives the Cowboys under contract I think four
Speaker 2: running backs at this point.
Speaker 3: Four we have four four so.
Speaker 2: Elik Davis, Hunter Lepke, and rico'donald. What more do you need?
Speaker 3: Man? I need more?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. Okay, So for what Tony
Speaker 2: Pollard signed for the Cowboys, weren't going to do that
Speaker 2: at this point. It's rico'dondal it is, I would imagine,
Speaker 2: and went where to Tennessee.
Speaker 4: Titans three year deal?
Speaker 2: Who rather has back home?
Speaker 4: Basically right well, because he's from Memphis.
Speaker 2: About three hour drive from Memphis, they would rather have Rico,
Speaker 2: I mean Tony Pollard instead of Derrick Henry. Who that's
Speaker 2: saying something when to Baltimore by the way, So anyway,
Speaker 2: let's start here. You guys, tell me give me a
Speaker 2: surprise in all this that we mentioned that took place
Speaker 2: since the start of free agency, what surprised you the most.
Speaker 4: I think this has just been a crazy time with
Speaker 4: free agency, and it's been I feel like a little
Speaker 4: uneasy as far as how the Cowboys have done everything,
Speaker 4: and so I think there's a lot of frustration within
Speaker 4: the fan base right now, and you know, there's still
Speaker 4: a lot of time left. But I think some of
Speaker 4: the big ones that stood out to me was Tyler
Speaker 4: Biattish and Tyrone Smith because I'm really looking at that
Speaker 4: offensive line and now you have a lot of really
Speaker 4: big decisions that you have to make as far as
Speaker 4: the guys that you do have left out there.
Speaker 5: Everson, I think Yiddish more than Tyler Tyron Smith. Beyondis more.
Speaker 5: I was very surprised that we lost our center. Uh
Speaker 5: we've had problems trying to figure out, you know, who
Speaker 5: was going to replace him when he was injured back
Speaker 5: in training camp. Uh we we tried what Tyler Smith?
Speaker 6: Did?
Speaker 3: We try Tyler Smith at center?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, who we trying?
Speaker 5: But there was another I can't I know, we tried
Speaker 5: another guy center that you know, he's probably not even
Speaker 5: here now.
Speaker 3: But you know these are guys that failed.
Speaker 5: I thought miserably to replace Beyondish and now we have
Speaker 5: no replacement for Beyondish at all, do we?
Speaker 2: Well? Today it would be brock Kaffman. If they had
Speaker 2: to start a game, which, by the way, a couple
Speaker 2: of times that he had to play, he played decently.
Speaker 5: I love your optimistic voice when you start.
Speaker 4: We got wet.
Speaker 2: They have to play a game tomorrow it would be broadcasts.
Speaker 5: So well, what do you I mean you got to
Speaker 5: give me more on that man? I mean it block
Speaker 5: worth it. I mean when I say worth it, I
Speaker 5: mean is he a capable backup? Well?
Speaker 3: He was star.
Speaker 2: He was, and now we'll see if he gets the opportunity.
Speaker 2: But again, free agency is not over with UH, and
Speaker 2: there is a draft and you can make trades, so
Speaker 2: they're still.
Speaker 3: You think we picked up a starting center in the.
Speaker 2: Draft, a starting center draft, but maybe somebody to UH,
Speaker 2: somebody to compete for the job. But the thing I think,
Speaker 2: first of all, we have to remember that they've got
Speaker 2: maybe seven million dollars under the cap. Now after they
Speaker 2: UH restructured Dak Prescott's restructure bonus, they picked up four
Speaker 2: a million, but that basically went to signing Eric Kendricks,
Speaker 2: whose salary cap HiT's going to be one year, three
Speaker 2: million dollars, So they have four left. So they've got
Speaker 2: a little bit left, but not much, not enough to say, oh,
Speaker 2: let's go make a splash. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: Were you surprised about Tyran's contract?
Speaker 2: Okay, with the Jets, very surprised because what the fine
Speaker 2: print didn't get pointed out because it got reported initially
Speaker 2: one year six point five million with incentives that can
Speaker 2: get it to twenty million.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: But here's the part that got the Cowboys. It was
Speaker 2: like a poison pill. So he's got I don't know
Speaker 2: if everybody can see this. I've got a list here
Speaker 2: of all his incentives. Okay, you got it? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So you see playing time incentive tier one, and if
Speaker 2: he plays sixty eight percent of the snaps, he would
Speaker 2: make five point seventy five million dollars. Wow, okay, but
Speaker 2: guess what last year he played seventy one point five
Speaker 2: percent of the snaps. So those incentives right there are
Speaker 2: likely to be earned. So his cap hit for this
Speaker 2: year right now is twelve point two five million one
Speaker 2: year go figure. So the Cowboys could not match. They
Speaker 2: didn't even come close to having that much salary cap room.
Speaker 2: So what the deal is, if you give a guy
Speaker 2: incentives that he earned last year, then that counts against
Speaker 2: your cap hit for this year. If he doesn't achieve it,
Speaker 2: then you get a rebate next year. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 2: But they've got to assume that since he played seventy
Speaker 2: one and a half percent of the snaps last year,
Speaker 2: that he will at least get to sixty eight percent
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 5: So they're looking good as far as as far as
Speaker 5: their salary cap numbers of concerns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a lot. I think even after this
Speaker 2: they had like twelve seventeen million dollars. That's a good deal,
Speaker 2: that's fit for Tyrant and the Jets, and that's why
Speaker 2: they were able to also sign Williams, the wide receiver
Speaker 2: from the Chargers. So so again, and then if you
Speaker 2: look at tier two of those incentives, it goes it
Speaker 2: starts at seventy four percent, So those aren't likely to
Speaker 2: be earned because he didn't earn him last year. Okay.
Speaker 2: Also it went from seventy four percent for another one
Speaker 2: point twenty five million all the way up to ninety
Speaker 2: eight percent for six point two five million.
Speaker 3: So that's no, he's not doing that, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: come on.
Speaker 2: You would think, right, But again last year seventy one
Speaker 2: seventy one point five percent. He played the majority of
Speaker 2: the games, and by the way, in the play in
Speaker 2: the playoff game, I forgot about this. The offense ninety
Speaker 2: five snaps in the loss to Green Bay. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: played every one of them. That is something, and so
Speaker 2: did be Hodish, by.
Speaker 5: The way, And to me, that that leads me to
Speaker 5: the fact that losing Tyres Smith, to me, that is
Speaker 5: a heartbreaker simply because of what he brought to this organization. Right,
Speaker 5: you know we were talking about now is numbers because
Speaker 5: this is what the segment is we're talking about, you know, the.
Speaker 3: Movement that was made.
Speaker 5: But when you just think about what Tyren Smith brought
Speaker 5: to this organization and played well and played extremely well
Speaker 5: last year considering all the injuries that he had been through,
Speaker 5: and to suck it up at what how old is
Speaker 5: he now?
Speaker 2: He'll be he's thirty three. He'll be thirty four on December.
Speaker 5: Twelfth, and that's an old thirty four because he's been
Speaker 5: through it, right, and he gave it all.
Speaker 3: He gave it all to the castle. You gotta give
Speaker 3: the man some love.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Regards to how much we're gonna miss him his professionalism, Uh,
Speaker 5: he gave no one any issues around here at all.
Speaker 5: I can't remember him even hearing of him raising his
Speaker 5: voice to anyone, right, you know, he's always been that
Speaker 5: guy that showed class, his good such.
Speaker 4: A stand up.
Speaker 2: That's the longest if we've verbalized we.
Speaker 4: Got to show ever since I haven't pulled up.
Speaker 2: It's the longest he would have spoken in thirteen years combined.
Speaker 4: Wow, honestly, that's very true.
Speaker 2: And am I right?
Speaker 4: Yes, you are right, because.
Speaker 2: Even the guys on the offensive line, no, when they
Speaker 2: talk to tyrant if they get a grunt. That's right,
Speaker 2: that's a good glow.
Speaker 4: Like when I think about it too, like look at
Speaker 4: the other young guys that he was playing on the
Speaker 4: line with, Like he was also such a leader in
Speaker 4: a way, and that's exactly that's a miss that we
Speaker 4: won't have necessarily on that line right now.
Speaker 3: So this is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: My next question to you about this is do you
Speaker 2: go in search of a offensive left tackle or do
Speaker 2: you move Tyler Smith to left tackle and then fill
Speaker 2: in at guard. What would be your preference?
Speaker 3: That was very cool, That was very cool. My preference again,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Tyler Smith, move him to left tackle and then find
Speaker 2: a guard because finding a guard is probably a little
Speaker 2: easier than finding a left tackle.
Speaker 3: Now, you got to put him out of tackle. You
Speaker 3: have to put him out of tackle.
Speaker 5: See that's my you just you just have to because
Speaker 5: that's where the experience is obviously the most important position
Speaker 5: on the offensive line, covering your quarterback's backside. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I would have to say you put the most experience
Speaker 5: an athletic person if even if he's playing guard right now,
Speaker 5: you have to pay move him out to tackle and.
Speaker 3: He's done it.
Speaker 2: Before, and that's what he was before they moved him
Speaker 2: to guard.
Speaker 3: No, no, he was a guard. And then so he
Speaker 3: was he was drafted. What was he drafted?
Speaker 2: It was he was a tackle. He was a tackle,
Speaker 2: but they thought that they can move him.
Speaker 3: I thought he got to the guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he was. He was a tackle at college.
Speaker 2: You want him to be a guard just because you
Speaker 2: wanted a guard drafted in the first round. Don't message no, man,
Speaker 2: this is true.
Speaker 5: It's a fact. But Spagnola always kind of.
Speaker 2: Got to be right right right. So then at guard
Speaker 2: you you would have t J. Bass if they had
Speaker 2: to play tomorrow. To me, finding a guard should be
Speaker 2: easier than a left tackle. The left tackle positions pretty important.
Speaker 2: And this is a way when you don't have a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of salary cap money available to very inexpensively
Speaker 2: fill the left tackle spot.
Speaker 5: Have you been out there enough as far as your
Speaker 5: knowledge is concerned, do you know if there are any
Speaker 5: guards out there for trade or veteran guards out there
Speaker 5: that are unsigned.
Speaker 2: I have not seen of any quality. Now, let's put
Speaker 2: it this way. The market value. I saw a couple
Speaker 2: guards get re signed for sixteen to eighteen million a year.
Speaker 3: Wow, a guard A guard?
Speaker 5: Now, see you've been talking trans about guards, not look
Speaker 5: at the value of guards.
Speaker 3: Now. See I was ahead of the.
Speaker 2: Game market and the tackles. The tackles not for incentives,
Speaker 2: for real money twenty millionaires. So Tyran and his agent
Speaker 2: saw what the market value was at the tackle position
Speaker 2: and it was like, well, we want some of that
Speaker 2: because last year he took a little bit of a
Speaker 2: pay cut to restructure his contract and because of that,
Speaker 2: he still this year will count six million dollars against
Speaker 2: the Cowboys in dead money. So that's got to be
Speaker 2: I would think decision number one what they do at
Speaker 2: left tackle and then guard and center? Right? Yeah? Do that?
Speaker 2: Do they trust brock Kaufman to be able to step
Speaker 2: in and be a starter, and these decisions that they
Speaker 2: have to make. I wrote about it on Friday. They
Speaker 2: got to be right. And they've got so many to
Speaker 2: make to fill in at different spots.
Speaker 5: Now, lets you know how important last year was in
Speaker 5: regards to the success of this team, because this was
Speaker 5: the moment where we had everything in place last year
Speaker 5: for the playoffs. Our offensive line was just where we
Speaker 5: wanted to be. Everyone was in place. This is the moment.
Speaker 5: This is when we're going to go forward with the
Speaker 5: leadership of Dak Prescott. And when that didn't work, it
Speaker 5: seems like now it's kind of blowing up.
Speaker 4: It's like unraveling a little bit. Is how it feels, definitely, And.
Speaker 2: What they've done to keep it together last year and
Speaker 2: somewhat this year is putting restructure bonus into voided years
Speaker 2: like next year. Right now, if nothing changed, they'd be
Speaker 2: forty million over the cap because of voided years. There
Speaker 2: would be dead money that they have to account for.
Speaker 2: So you're right, And when you had that many Pro bowlers, right,
Speaker 2: you had the guy that finished what second in the
Speaker 2: Most Valuable Player voting that you had the top wide
Speaker 2: receiver that led the league, you had the guy that
Speaker 2: finished second for Defensive Player of the Year. You had
Speaker 2: all this quality and you flamed out in the And
Speaker 2: now this is when you're paying the penalty right now
Speaker 2: because they still have work to do. Uh.
Speaker 5: Most most teams that that set it up the way
Speaker 5: that Cowboys did last year.
Speaker 3: Like say the Rams.
Speaker 5: This reminds me of the Rams when they went to
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, right, they succeeded, but then they Now
Speaker 5: the Cowboys are paying the price without having the prize,
Speaker 5: without gaining the prize exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's the biggest penalty of the loss. The loss
Speaker 2: is the laws. But it was.
Speaker 3: Now you're still losing.
Speaker 2: Because you needed to because let's face it, this this
Speaker 2: you know thing about all in. They were all in.
Speaker 3: They were all in last year, right, that's true.
Speaker 2: That is the trade.
Speaker 5: Cannot you cannot deny that. No one can say that
Speaker 5: that's not true.
Speaker 2: And the trades worked well. Now, so yeah, this is
Speaker 2: one of the big decisions they've got to make. Uh,
Speaker 2: and then neck and then center. So those two things.
Speaker 5: This is just right now we're just talking offense.
Speaker 4: And we haven't even got to running back yet.
Speaker 2: And running back we we mentioned it right yea, the
Speaker 2: signing of ric O'Donnell. But you know he's only guaranteed
Speaker 2: one point to cap hit. He's guaranteed two hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: So that kind of tells you that, yeah, we like you,
Speaker 2: but we didn't over extend ourselves to pay you, and
Speaker 2: they really didn't have money to do it. Now. The
Speaker 2: other thing that they did on offense is they released
Speaker 2: Michael Gallup, making him a June one release, and there's
Speaker 2: you know, ramifications for that. Everybody is always quick to
Speaker 2: point out that he would have had a thirteen point
Speaker 2: eight million dollar cap hit for this year. They will
Speaker 2: save his base which is eight point five million, so
Speaker 2: they'll get that back, but not until June second. So
Speaker 2: that's almost like a savings account to pay for your draft,
Speaker 2: all right, But what nobody wants to tell you is
Speaker 2: by releasing him, they will incur thirteen point zero five
Speaker 2: million in dead money. So he will he will cost
Speaker 2: them in dead money this year five point three million.
Speaker 5: I keep I keep having this Amari Cooper in my
Speaker 5: ear right, like this.
Speaker 3: Somewhere in my ear going, hey, I told you so.
Speaker 2: And then and then in twenty twenty five he'll count
Speaker 2: eight million in dead money. Damn, it never goes away, right,
Speaker 2: the guaranteed money restructure, bonus money. At some point you
Speaker 2: got to pay the piper.
Speaker 3: You can't just kick the can down the road.
Speaker 2: Now, it's only so far you can kick it, right,
Speaker 2: and then it's like, oh, we got to absorb this, right,
Speaker 2: So now your third wide receiver, and knowing Brandon Cooks
Speaker 2: is on the last year of his contract, Tony, we
Speaker 2: think Jalen Tobert, you know, he kind of stepped up.
Speaker 2: He did, but again, what if you have an injury
Speaker 2: and then the other guy would have.
Speaker 4: Been Brooks Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 2: He I mean he was interesting, right.
Speaker 4: He made cashes last year.
Speaker 2: When when he was then, So now that's your third
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking if your biggest worries your third receiver,
Speaker 2: he probably got other things to worry about. But it's
Speaker 2: the dead money that no one likes to point out
Speaker 2: that you've got to account for. And that's eight that's
Speaker 2: eight million next year. Uh So I think they tried
Speaker 2: to maybe renegotiate that deal. Agents aren't going to do that.
Speaker 2: They'll take their chance and free agency and see what happens.
Speaker 2: He how many he had a he had a visit
Speaker 2: I who had uh gallup Miami. It was some someone
Speaker 2: at a decent team.
Speaker 3: I hope he goes where they I'm sure. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I've I don't know what's going on with his knee, right,
Speaker 5: and how how well it's going to be next year.
Speaker 5: Sometimes the second year removed is the year when you
Speaker 5: really show what you can do, which is sure what
Speaker 5: he's hoping, but he might want to do it on
Speaker 5: the grass field, right.
Speaker 3: He might be thinking about that. I don't know, I'll
Speaker 3: be thinking that.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking, okay, well to put myself in the best situation,
Speaker 5: go to a place where I can play at home
Speaker 5: on grass at least game at least eight games.
Speaker 4: He is scheduled to meet with the Carolina Panthers Anthers
Speaker 4: sometime this week.
Speaker 2: All right, so, so yeah, that's offensively now they I mean,
Speaker 2: you're talking about one of the best offenses last year
Speaker 2: in the league and.
Speaker 5: You're being dismantled at this point, your center, you're running back,
Speaker 5: running back, and.
Speaker 2: Your wife who by the way, you know he didn't
Speaker 2: play that much well in the in the playoff game.
Speaker 2: He he ended up playing.
Speaker 4: You're talking about Michael Gallups.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was the six percent of the snaps.
Speaker 4: He was honestly one of the standouts in that game.
Speaker 2: He was right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, that's a lot to phill.
Speaker 2: Not to mention your backup left tackle. What do you got?
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna look at, well, let's go Josh
Speaker 2: Ball who they moved to guard. I can't imagine, and
Speaker 2: they'll resign a doga. I just think you can.
Speaker 5: So is Josh Ball? Do you think he's a good replacement?
Speaker 5: Will Tylers Smith, I would.
Speaker 2: Say at guard. Yeah, I think t J. Bass might
Speaker 2: have the upper hand there. Really, yeah, because he ended
Speaker 2: up playing a couple of games. You didn't notice. That's like, oh,
Speaker 2: t J basses right.
Speaker 4: So Josh Ball didn't. He can't play it all on.
Speaker 2: No, he did not, and well let's go h I
Speaker 2: don't believe either.
Speaker 4: So I think they activated him at one point, but
Speaker 4: that was it.
Speaker 2: They activated him to practice I think from the injured Yeah,
Speaker 2: I are. So that's kind of where they are on offense.
Speaker 2: And when we continue on mixshots, we'll pay attention to
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Speaker 4: That you guys have a very special listener who is
Speaker 4: recovering at home from a double knee surgery.
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Speaker 3: This is so cool.
Speaker 4: If you can hear us, Nate, we wish you a
Speaker 4: very d recovery.
Speaker 3: Recovering my brother double knee replacement. Now he won't be
Speaker 3: limping around here.
Speaker 2: That's right, He'll be zipping up and down the starts
Speaker 2: right use the elevator.
Speaker 5: He might even lose even more weight, you know, right,
Speaker 5: he might be even skinnier around here.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to do his rehab, right, all right, Nate,
Speaker 2: We'll make sure.
Speaker 5: You who's the guy doesn't rehab around here for the players.
Speaker 5: Britt Brown Brown, BRIT's gonna get with Nate. He's gonna
Speaker 5: have Nate after running sprints and the stairs that he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna tell Nate, now you can run those one tens.
Speaker 3: Bring Jimmy Johnson, bag Jimmy to.
Speaker 2: Get him going. Right. Well, good luck with all that.
Speaker 3: Good luck Nate.
Speaker 4: Around here.
Speaker 2: And yeah, man, all right, so we briefly mentioned, uh,
Speaker 2: Kendrick's getting signed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Well, he did a U turn because he was agreed
Speaker 2: to with San Francisco and then they he decided that
Speaker 2: the Cowboys were going to give him an opportunity to
Speaker 2: play middle linebacker and he could rejoin Mike Zimmer, who
Speaker 2: he played seven years for with the Vikings. The other
Speaker 2: thing I noticed in his career, he's played eight seasons.
Speaker 2: Seven of those he had more than one hundred tackles,
Speaker 2: and the one season he didn't, he had ninety two
Speaker 2: and I believe it was his rookie year. So he's
Speaker 2: been pretty productive. They obviously needed a linebacker, and it's
Speaker 2: a kind of bittersweet thing. For Leyton Vanderish releasing him
Speaker 2: failed physical, which just was a procedure matter, and then
Speaker 2: what a few days later he announced his retirement, which.
Speaker 4: I felt like that was going to come.
Speaker 3: I mean he felt like that too, right Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think so he knew, and it's kind of a
Speaker 2: sad thing, but it's a good thing, right for his
Speaker 2: quality of life going forward, not to roll the dice
Speaker 2: on suffering another neck injury, especially after having the fusion
Speaker 2: surgery back in I believe it was twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: It was amazing he came back from that, right yeah.
Speaker 2: And when he was healthy, he played well, and then
Speaker 2: he got back and the first thing he did the opener,
Speaker 2: he suffered a fractured clavicle. Missed the four games that
Speaker 2: year and two at the end of the season.
Speaker 4: Tough for him.
Speaker 2: They did pick up his fifth year option. They did
Speaker 2: sign him these last two years to a two year
Speaker 2: deal with guarantees, which, by the way, so they picked
Speaker 2: up two point one four million in cap space, but
Speaker 2: he will also cost him two point twenty five million
Speaker 2: in dead money for guarantees he had, So it's kind
Speaker 2: of a wash. But I mean, he played six seasons
Speaker 2: your sixth season would have been eighty seven, eighty eight,
Speaker 2: eighty six, eighty six. Right, Yeah, can you imagine having
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 5: I would not I could not now, especially when but
Speaker 5: you know, it depends on the journey to get there,
Speaker 5: you know, it depends on how how how do I
Speaker 5: feel at night? You know, it might be a blessing
Speaker 5: to let this game go if I'm having the kind
Speaker 5: of injuries that you're talking about, I have, I feel
Speaker 5: bad now and I just you know, ran into a
Speaker 5: couple of people. I mean, this guy's had surgery, so
Speaker 5: you could just imagine what he feels at night when
Speaker 5: you're trying to roll over on your pillow. You know,
Speaker 5: it's the comfort zone there probably doesn't even exist anywhere
Speaker 5: for him, probably for the rest.
Speaker 3: Of his life.
Speaker 2: And then he suffered the stinger this year.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, and that didn't help.
Speaker 2: That has to make you think about your football Come on, well,
Speaker 2: not even football mortality, your mortality. Married just had a child.
Speaker 2: And he also put out a long statement really heartfelt.
Speaker 4: It was very Yeah, reading that through, you get so
Speaker 4: much emotion just from reading it because he it was
Speaker 4: his lifelong dream to play for the Cowboys and then
Speaker 4: being able to retire and say I'm retiring as a cowboy.
Speaker 4: It just came full circle for him and he credited
Speaker 4: his wife, his family, just so many people, the Jones family,
Speaker 4: just for all his success and it was just a
Speaker 4: stand up.
Speaker 2: I remember the first time, I'm I don't know if
Speaker 2: I should say met him, but ran into him. So
Speaker 2: he was in the twenty eighteen draft class. The twenty
Speaker 2: eighteen draft was at at and T Stadium, So a
Speaker 2: couple of days before the draft, they had some of
Speaker 2: the guys that were here to be in the green room,
Speaker 2: the first projected first round guys, and they had to workout.
Speaker 2: They did a thing with middle school kids, and I'm
Speaker 2: watching this guy work out and I knew who he
Speaker 2: was just from looking at the draft. And I looked
Speaker 2: at him and I go, I want that guy. You
Speaker 2: know the size, oh huge, Yeah, the speed.
Speaker 3: He is tall, He's way taller than he looks on it.
Speaker 2: And then and then yeah, is that you Damn.
Speaker 3: I had to look up.
Speaker 2: And I listened to the kind of group interview he'd
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I want that guy on my team.
Speaker 2: And sure enough, they ended up drafting him in the
Speaker 2: first round and gave him a really good linebacker number
Speaker 2: fifty five. It just looks right ye linebacker and played
Speaker 2: well his first year. He went to the Pro Bowl
Speaker 2: and was the first Cowboys rookie linebacker to go to
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl in history. And I just thought he
Speaker 2: was not only valuable as a player, but in the
Speaker 2: locker room, on the field as a leader.
Speaker 4: That was one of my biggest points last week is you're, yes,
Speaker 4: we have Eric Kendricks who has been playing as a
Speaker 4: vet in the league for many, many years, and we'll
Speaker 4: probably fill more of that leadership role. But Leyton vander
Speaker 4: Rush was the guy out.
Speaker 2: There, and and if you look at this defense, it's
Speaker 2: pretty young. They don't have a lot of experience other
Speaker 2: than you know, if you look at DeMarcus Lawrence. But
Speaker 2: after that, we're talking a whole bunch of young guys.
Speaker 2: So Eric Kendricks kind of lessens the pain of losing
Speaker 2: Leyton Vanderish. But it's a shame, but I think it
Speaker 2: was a good thing for him to do what he
Speaker 2: needed to do. So and then we had the exodus
Speaker 2: at defensive end on defense, dan Quinn taking Dorince Armstrong
Speaker 2: and Dante Foller with them to Washington and what people
Speaker 2: need to remember is Washington started free agency ninety six
Speaker 2: million dollars under the salary cap.
Speaker 3: Wow, they were one of the highest.
Speaker 2: They were the highest. Yeah, and so think about it.
Speaker 2: They they can make a mistake and it's like spitting
Speaker 2: in the ocean, right, it really doesn't matter. So and
Speaker 2: I remember when Stephen Jones spoke. It must have been
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl and someone asked them the question
Speaker 2: of well, the salary cap just went up to two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five point four million. That's got to
Speaker 2: really make you happy. And he goes, well, it did,
Speaker 2: but there's a downside to it. That means other teams
Speaker 2: are going to have more money to spend. And he
Speaker 2: didn't say carelessly, but kind of freely, right, And that's
Speaker 2: what happened. Washington starts signing. They must have done like
Speaker 2: twelve things already because they've got the money.
Speaker 4: They're stacked right now.
Speaker 3: So Armstrong, those are two quality players.
Speaker 2: We just set seven and a half sacks last year.
Speaker 2: He was second in sacks the past two seasons, so
Speaker 2: it was sixteen sacks, not.
Speaker 3: To mention the blocked field goals and extra points.
Speaker 2: And he was able to sign a deal for three
Speaker 2: years thirty three million, with a fifteen million dollars signing bonus,
Speaker 2: so that signing bonus is probably more than he made
Speaker 2: in four years.
Speaker 3: He yeah, because he played well. Absolutely, he played well here.
Speaker 5: He did many things that you know, Like I said,
Speaker 5: the special teams effort that he gave for us was
Speaker 5: amazing and unexpected by.
Speaker 3: The way, so and Dante foulon.
Speaker 2: So he ended up getting guaranteed sixteen point one million.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a good movie.
Speaker 2: That's a good I mean, you can't turn that.
Speaker 3: You couldn't match it.
Speaker 2: He did well, you couldn't match it because you know,
Speaker 2: with the with the guarantees.
Speaker 3: Where's he from.
Speaker 2: He went to college at Kansas. That's his only downfall.
Speaker 2: Shots we trade We traded Missouri Kansas Stone basically. Uh
Speaker 2: but yeah, that one, Uh, that one hurts. And then.
Speaker 3: Washington he also signed.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, another one year deal. So but again, everybody's
Speaker 2: gonna whind the Cowboys do something. Well, they didn't have
Speaker 2: anything to do it with. That was the problem. Uh.
Speaker 2: And even though they restructured Zach Martin's deal, which again
Speaker 2: pushed signing bonus money into voided years, that only got
Speaker 2: them under the cap because they were over uh, so
Speaker 2: they had to do that to get under.
Speaker 5: So the main reason is basically Dak's contract is the
Speaker 5: reason that they right.
Speaker 2: And see, they could have restructured his base salary which
Speaker 2: is twenty nine million, and they chose not to. He
Speaker 2: had a restructure bonus due of five million, so they
Speaker 2: basically paid him the five million and then they spread
Speaker 2: it out one million this year and then three years
Speaker 2: avoided contracts that he has, they've spread that into their
Speaker 2: So they kind of did a little bit of a
Speaker 2: band aid. But they say they're still working on an extension,
Speaker 2: which would be huge to open up.
Speaker 3: More capital.
Speaker 2: Right, because when they give a guy an extension and
Speaker 2: they pay him signing bonus to do it so they
Speaker 2: can spread it over the life of the contract, his
Speaker 2: twenty nine million dollar base salary will end up being
Speaker 2: like one point two million.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean this has to be done obviously, because
Speaker 5: we haven't even signed the guys that we have that
Speaker 5: have free agent contracts coming up right, existing contracts. I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: like ceedee lamb, Right.
Speaker 2: Well, he's he's under for seventeen point nine million. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's his fifty year option.
Speaker 3: Diggs.
Speaker 2: Diggs has already done last years. Parsons. They got to
Speaker 2: pick up his fifty year option for next year, which
Speaker 2: will be twenty one million, because they did it as
Speaker 2: a defensive end. Believe it or not, the fifth year
Speaker 2: option for linebacker or defensive end. The defensive end was
Speaker 2: less money than the linebacker spot. Linebacker would have been
Speaker 2: twenty four million. So they would like to sign him
Speaker 2: to an extension, but you got to be able to
Speaker 2: however you do it, take care of this year, this year,
Speaker 2: and then next year. You know they're going to be
Speaker 2: so far over the cap.
Speaker 3: So Parson's he's.
Speaker 2: He's in his last year. He's got one more.
Speaker 3: I know he's gonna go.
Speaker 2: He's got one more year.
Speaker 3: He's going to be a linebacker.
Speaker 5: When it comes time to negotiation, well that won't be
Speaker 5: a defensive end.
Speaker 2: That'll be determined on what Mike Zimmer decides to kind
Speaker 2: of do with him. Which I just saw the clock,
Speaker 2: and before we go down that rabbit hole with the
Speaker 2: coaching staff, we better take our final break here on nickshots.
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Speaker 2: All right, we continue here the last few minutes on
Speaker 2: mix shots, the Cowboys officially announced their coaching staff and
Speaker 2: all the positions, and I thought the most significant move
Speaker 2: was not only retaining al Harris as their defensive backs coach,
Speaker 2: but the promotion voted to assist well deserved because guess
Speaker 2: who wanted Al Harris?
Speaker 3: Everybody Quinn.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, the commanders, if you ever
Speaker 2: heard of Dan Quinn answer her question about al Harris. Uh,
Speaker 2: he thought al Harris was the bomb. And just think
Speaker 2: what he's done developing Trayvon Diggs Deron Bland. And by
Speaker 2: the way, I don't know if I mentioned it, but
Speaker 2: the Cowboys did resign Jordan Lewis to uh base salary
Speaker 2: of two point sixty six million, got one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty seven one thousand dollars signing bonus. But this was
Speaker 2: a new one to me. There was a rule for
Speaker 2: a four year player contract provision where while you sign
Speaker 2: them to the minimum or the maximum base, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: signing bonus and it's two point sixty six million dollar base.
Speaker 2: He only counts one point three to seven against the cap.
Speaker 2: So they used that to save cap space and gave
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis money to Babel to sign them to that
Speaker 2: one year deal. And then the other thing I noticed
Speaker 2: on the on the coaching staff was Robert Trinch, the
Speaker 2: wide receiver coach, became the pass game coordinator, so they
Speaker 2: gave a few guys upgraded titles to move along now,
Speaker 2: mentioning defense and the cornerback position with Lewis at least,
Speaker 2: now you have three veteran guys to play cornerback, although
Speaker 2: one's coming off is torn acl Trayvon Diggs. You got
Speaker 2: Duran Bland you can play outside, and then Jordan Lewis
Speaker 2: in the slot. I'm sure they would like to be
Speaker 2: able to do something with Stefan Gilmour, who's still out
Speaker 2: there by the way, but again, you got to have
Speaker 2: money under the cap to be able to do that.
Speaker 2: And then the elephant in the room, so to speak,
Speaker 2: is Jonathan Hankins. If indeed at three d and twenty
Speaker 2: pounds he signs with Seattle, boy Mozzy Smith got to
Speaker 2: be a player this year.
Speaker 4: He is the guy.
Speaker 5: If that, I'm sure they've had a conversation with him already, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: let him know what they want from him.
Speaker 2: And I would imagine we're going to find out what
Speaker 2: sort of confidence they have in him by what they
Speaker 2: do going forward in free agency, slash trade or the draft,
Speaker 2: Because really a defensive tackle it's Osa O'degiezua.
Speaker 4: I really like Osa, yeah, and they're good there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then it's Mazi. They re signed Carl Davis
Speaker 2: who had been on the practice squad and they promoted
Speaker 2: him I think at some point to the fifty three.
Speaker 2: But Chauncey Golston and that's really it at defensive tackle.
Speaker 2: So they're going to have to do something there. Also,
Speaker 2: you know, we keep saying, well the draft, well, you
Speaker 2: can only do so much in the draft, right, and
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee that I take this position, this position,
Speaker 2: this position, and I hit on all three. So that's
Speaker 2: got to be a position of somewhat concern, especially since
Speaker 2: their inability to stop the run last year. And you know,
Speaker 2: in the playoff game, even though Hankins ended up playing
Speaker 2: sixty percent of the snaps, they still gave up one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty three yards rushing and touchdowns. Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about that Buffalo game, Miami Green Bay.
Speaker 3: The Buffalo game hurt. That was the beginning of pain.
Speaker 4: Arizona.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the beginning of pain though, that Buffalo game. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was almost like we went troubled after.
Speaker 2: That Arizona game. Well, it was one of those things,
Speaker 2: right right. But the Buffalo Buffalo game, that's when.
Speaker 4: We were a little bit more exposed as far as.
Speaker 3: And that to me, that was the beginning of the
Speaker 3: end right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you played a credible team and you.
Speaker 3: Did not compete and you needed that game.
Speaker 2: Right Yeah. And then Miami same thing. They did somewhat
Speaker 2: better against Detroit, eked out of victory.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so and with with that, you know, either
Speaker 5: we didn't have the personnel to begin with, or we
Speaker 5: resorted to and or we resorted to a scheme that
Speaker 5: was not going.
Speaker 3: To be winnable.
Speaker 2: Right. And they were short on linebackers, Okay, why though?
Speaker 2: Well they did. They had two things happen. They were
Speaker 2: counting on overshown the draft choice from Texas tears As
Speaker 2: ACL and camp. And then they were counting on Layton
Speaker 2: and he gets hurt after five games. Uh, And they
Speaker 2: were short at linebacker. They tried with Evans that didn't
Speaker 2: work well. And there was a precursor to that because
Speaker 2: it didn't work for five days with Philadelphia in training camp.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Uh So, uh, short on linebackers and teams took advantage
Speaker 2: of it. And we talked about it after the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl when Michah Parsons interviewed Jordan Love and he basically said, yeah,
Speaker 2: we ran on you last year and we looked and
Speaker 2: you had a safety playing linebacker. Yeah, so we're going
Speaker 2: to run on And then they came up a cornerback
Speaker 2: short when Gilmore shoulder. Yeah, and they tried to play
Speaker 2: him with a harness on and play zone and they
Speaker 2: failed miserably playing the zone.
Speaker 3: Aarones is out there running back?
Speaker 2: Yes, No, I thought he Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Minnesota thought after they got.
Speaker 4: Aj Dillon, Yeah, I think I think he's still on
Speaker 4: the market.
Speaker 3: Now, that's a good one.
Speaker 2: That's a guy I thought he maybe I saw a
Speaker 2: visit with him. The running back market dried up pretty quickly,
Speaker 2: but everybody was playing hopscotch, like, all right, you're out.
Speaker 2: I'll take your guy that you released. Somebody's gonna take
Speaker 2: my guy that I released.
Speaker 4: Uh, and disregard he's going to stay in Green Bay.
Speaker 2: So cornerback is another position because you've got Now you're
Speaker 2: in the same position, right, you got three guys you trust,
Speaker 2: you need another one. And if they can create some money. Now,
Speaker 2: everybody says, well, why don't they sign this guy or
Speaker 2: this guy. Well, it takes two to tangle. And these
Speaker 2: agents know the Cowboys are over a barrel and they're
Speaker 2: probably sitting there going, Okay, we're gonna up the annie
Speaker 2: because you're desperate to get this done.
Speaker 3: But they also know that we don't have the money.
Speaker 2: But they don't care about that that part. They don't.
Speaker 5: If I was an agent trying to push him off
Speaker 5: from the Cowboys, I'm like, hey man, they don't have
Speaker 5: the money. Let's go somewhere else, right, they don't have
Speaker 5: enough money.
Speaker 2: For what when you're trying to redo guys you already
Speaker 2: have under contract. They they they've got the upper that's
Speaker 2: the guys.
Speaker 3: Just understand. Those guys agents understand.
Speaker 2: Because they know you're desperate to be able to do something.
Speaker 4: And let me just remind everybody. We have four remaining
Speaker 4: guys that are free agents. It's Stefan Gilmore, Jay Ron Curse,
Speaker 4: Chuma Adoga and Sean McKeon. Out of the sixteen well
Speaker 4: as sixteen, we have four and I believe it.
Speaker 2: Is let me double check, twelve guys have already.
Speaker 4: We have re signed Jordan Lewis, our long snapper, Trent Sing.
Speaker 2: By the way, we should not actually like because you
Speaker 2: know why they got that done so fast. There were
Speaker 2: other teams after.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good stuff. That did not fly over my head. No,
Speaker 5: that's a good sign.
Speaker 4: Those three Brian Anger, Brandon Aubrey and Trent See that is.
Speaker 3: You want to keep those guys. You want to keep
Speaker 3: those guys in the house.
Speaker 4: Those are the the avengers.
Speaker 5: I bet they're the ones always sitting back drinking coffee
Speaker 5: looking at everybody else.
Speaker 3: With their pinky fingers up. We all, we're in good
Speaker 3: shape over here.
Speaker 4: We also resigned C. J. Goodwin.
Speaker 2: Right, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: Good ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's it.
Speaker 4: Right, that's it for now.
Speaker 2: The guys departed, and.
Speaker 4: Well and and Ricodole and I think.
Speaker 2: We've used up our time.
Speaker 3: Yes we have.
Speaker 2: We cover it all.
Speaker 3: We came close, we did, We covered enough. We covered enough.
Speaker 2: So well, we should be back at eleven a m
Speaker 2: On Monday if all go as well. And maybe maybe
Speaker 2: Bill can tear himself up away from baseball.
Speaker 4: Bell coming back. Maybe maybe Nate can uh recovered wheel.
Speaker 5: He's gonna come back when he comes back from rehab.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, I appreciate you guys joining us
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