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Speaker 2: All from Mark.
Speaker 1: Hi, Mark, Hey, how's it going going? Okay? How's it
Speaker 1: going with you?
Speaker 2: It could be better?
Speaker 1: Okay? How could it be better?
Speaker 2: Well, I had a rough day dealing with the veterans
Speaker 2: administration medical folks. So that was irritating.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you called because I know a lot
Speaker 1: about the Veterans Medical Association, a.
Speaker 2: Lot of old vets bitching and complaining.
Speaker 1: No I was, I was, I was being a dick.
Speaker 1: But what what? What problem are you having with them?
Speaker 2: Oh? So, I've been having issues with my knees since
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, and I've been frustrated with the Army when
Speaker 2: I was still in that they weren't taking it seriously,
Speaker 2: and weren't taking it seriously, and they didn't kind of
Speaker 2: give me the attention I wanted. And maybe I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of grasping for answers that aren't there. I'm one
Speaker 2: of the very few people who in the Army actually
Speaker 2: liked to run. And when my knees started to hurt,
Speaker 2: and the treatments they did on me haven't had surgery
Speaker 2: yet didn't work out. I slowly reduced my running, reduced
Speaker 2: my running, reduced my running, and that accompanied a little
Speaker 2: bit of weight gain and in general overall loss of fitness.
Speaker 2: And I felt, especially being an officer, I wasn't I
Speaker 2: wasn't giving setting the best example for my guys. I
Speaker 2: was very fortunate that the Army suspended the PT test
Speaker 2: as long as they did, because I don't know if
Speaker 2: I would have been able to make it.
Speaker 1: What do you are you still in the well? You
Speaker 1: said you're a veteran, So are you still What are
Speaker 1: you doing?
Speaker 2: I got out in August?
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you do? What do you do now?
Speaker 1: You're retired?
Speaker 2: Yuh sorta. I mean, retirement in the military has a
Speaker 2: very specific connectation, and I'm not retired, but my compensation
Speaker 2: from the VAU is almost equivalent.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you have a you have a compensation from
Speaker 1: the Veterans Association. I'm going to assume that's what VA
Speaker 1: stands for administration administer. Okay, I was close. I got
Speaker 1: the v but not the association. And an association, by
Speaker 1: the way, an administration, I feel like a pretty similar anyway,
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what what so? So you don't so?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: How long? How long are those checks going to be
Speaker 1: coming in for?
Speaker 2: Unless I get convicted of fraud? Theoretically for life? But again,
Speaker 2: Congress can do whatever they want. If the American people
Speaker 2: stop giving the love they have been since nine to
Speaker 2: eleven two veterans and the electorate changes, that can change,
Speaker 2: but for the foreseeable future, I've got that money coming in.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's good. What so all right, so what
Speaker 1: do you do with your time then? If you don't,
Speaker 1: if you're not working.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I've been a little bit of
Speaker 2: a shut in. I do have something cooking. I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I'm applying to a Japanese language school in Japan. I
Speaker 2: want to get I've got a little bit of Japanese knowledge,
Speaker 2: but it's pretty pitiful and I've been hide I see,
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. What does hyde mean?
Speaker 2: It means uh hi oh hi high high?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, hi hi hi. That's cool man, that's cool.
Speaker 1: So you're you're you're are you like?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 1: Are you Are you applying to go do that in Japan? Yes?
Speaker 2: We We had a little bit of a mix up
Speaker 2: with the school for an interview, so I accidentally missed
Speaker 2: the first interview. They've scheduled second one. So I was
Speaker 2: not happy when I realized I had gotten the wrong date, well,
Speaker 2: especially when I was very careful to confirm the time difference,
Speaker 2: and then I just completely missed that they shifted. It
Speaker 2: shifted the day when they sent me a zoom link.
Speaker 5: M hm.
Speaker 1: So is this this Japanese language school thing? Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it part of is it? Is it a veteran
Speaker 1: thing or is it just like, uh, you know, a
Speaker 1: random kind of unrelated Japanese school.
Speaker 2: The latter, it's kind of a it's a for profit school.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to pay for it with the VA,
Speaker 2: but that's one of the things I do have going
Speaker 2: for me. I have no debt, and I have between
Speaker 2: retirement accounts and just brokerage accounts, I have about one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars in just straight like fairly liquid assets. Again,
Speaker 2: I know the economy takes dump, it's gonna be less.
Speaker 1: But nice, nice, and you're gonna use that to pay
Speaker 1: for this Japanese school.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, are you hoping to like, like stay in Japan
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 2: I I don't think so. Especially when I was in
Speaker 2: the Army, I got to go to Korea and Europe.
Speaker 2: But one of the things, like a every for the
Speaker 2: audience when CNN is freaking out about North Korea, ignore it.
Speaker 2: When the whole Trump business was going down, I was
Speaker 2: getting blackout drunk in the middle of soul. Nobody in
Speaker 2: South Korea cares North Korea has been going on anyways, tangent.
Speaker 2: But I've always said I'd like to live overseas for
Speaker 2: a year or two, and yeah, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: the living in Japan thing is a dream. And I
Speaker 2: visited there twice and they've got some problems. I don't
Speaker 2: think people realize I met Japanese Nazis both times I
Speaker 2: visited Tokyo.
Speaker 1: Japanese Nazis.
Speaker 2: It's more common than you would think.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 1: Were they like official? I guess. I don't know how
Speaker 1: official a Nazi can be, but what Japanese Nazis.
Speaker 2: So the first time, it was a far right march,
Speaker 2: like a fairly good number. Fortunately most were middle, middle
Speaker 2: aged or older, but carrying signs that essentially said expel
Speaker 2: the foreigners, you know, restore the emperor and you know,
Speaker 2: essentially remail tries.
Speaker 1: Japan by foreigners. Do they mean like like Americans coming
Speaker 1: over there?
Speaker 2: No, they mean literally everyone who isn't the purest of
Speaker 2: the pure Japanese.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so it's go ahead, now, you go ahead.
Speaker 2: So it's it's even people like the there's a large
Speaker 2: Korean minority within Japan that has been historically treated very
Speaker 2: very very poorly, and I remember hanging out with at
Speaker 2: a Japanese bar and just hearing a Japanese local say
Speaker 2: some inredibly offensive things about Korean.
Speaker 1: M okay, this and this. When How long were you
Speaker 1: in Japan for? When you were so the first time?
Speaker 2: So the first time I went for about two weeks,
Speaker 2: and the second time I was. It was super cool.
Speaker 2: I landed the day they opened up to individual tourists,
Speaker 2: so I got interviewed on Japanese TV, which was kind
Speaker 2: of neat, and I spent about a month and a
Speaker 2: half just be bopping around Japan. I actually met an
Speaker 2: atomic bomb survivor in Nagasaki. That was wild.
Speaker 1: Oh that is wild. Was he like a when when
Speaker 1: did the Nagasaki bomb drop?
Speaker 2: That was August of nineteen forty five?
Speaker 1: Wow? How old was was this guy?
Speaker 2: Dude was ninety six, so he's a teenager. I can't
Speaker 2: remember if he worked in the Mitsubishi factory, but he
Speaker 2: handed me a little card with his story. Essentially, his
Speaker 2: boss was like, hey, we need you to walk to site.
Speaker 2: Be walked over to site B. I was walking right
Speaker 2: behind a pillar and the bomb went off and he
Speaker 2: was like one of two people from either sites to survive.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, so you're there for two weeks and you're
Speaker 1: thinking about it, and so if you went back for
Speaker 1: this language school, how long would you go for?
Speaker 2: So the maximum I could get the visas of about
Speaker 2: one year and nine months, but I figure at least
Speaker 2: a year and again living in work or living in Japan,
Speaker 2: and I have the option to have a part time job.
Speaker 2: I really want to be able to really increase my
Speaker 2: command of Japanese. And if I get to a certain
Speaker 2: point where I'm like, hey, I can watch my anime
Speaker 2: without subtitles and read my manga untranslated, so like that's gravy.
Speaker 1: So I'm also kind of curious, what's your family friend
Speaker 1: situation right now? Would you be going to like if
Speaker 1: you went to Japan, would you be abandoning you know,
Speaker 1: anyone here? Would you still be able to have like
Speaker 1: a support system going on? Would you have people there?
Speaker 1: What's the deal?
Speaker 2: So I'm single, I don't really have any brothers or
Speaker 2: sisters in the local area I currently am. I don't
Speaker 2: really have any friends. My best friend lives in a
Speaker 2: different time zone already, although Japan will complicate that. Fair
Speaker 2: deal and no real attachments it's been frustrating. Since I
Speaker 2: left the house at twenty two. I've moved, on average
Speaker 2: about moved or deployed on average about every year of
Speaker 2: my life since then. So relationships and friends have been difficult.
Speaker 1: Is that like a big struggle in your life?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I still talk to my best friend,
Speaker 2: who I've been friends with since middle school. But again,
Speaker 2: like he's got a wife, he's got a kid on
Speaker 2: the way, you know, life's taken all elsewhere. He works remote,
Speaker 2: so he's he and I can howk on discord while
Speaker 2: he plays RuneScape while he's quote unquote working.
Speaker 1: So you've been like moving every year since you were
Speaker 1: twenty two?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1: Is it okay? If I asked cold you right now
Speaker 1: I'm thirty? Okay? Yeah? Do you and when you move,
Speaker 1: do you have an easy time making friends and like
Speaker 1: finding community where you go?
Speaker 2: I mean the army is sort of like community, just
Speaker 2: add alcohol. But it's one of those things as soon
Speaker 2: as you move away, you might and especially as an
Speaker 2: officer a little, especially when I got to be a captain,
Speaker 2: it became very cutthroat, and I by about four years
Speaker 2: in I was like, I don't think I'm going to
Speaker 2: make this career. So I did something. There's a game
Speaker 2: and you must play it. So like going to the
Speaker 2: senior officer's house and being like oh, beautiful house, or
Speaker 2: like lovely reception, but the whole thing of like why
Speaker 2: do we need to delay this guy's orders? I'm like
Speaker 2: he needs to get his family in order, and it's
Speaker 2: like it's like, yeah, all right, sir, don't care.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think moving to Japan would be exciting.
Speaker 1: I guess you weren't even talking about moving, you were
Speaker 1: just talking about going there for a year and nine months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it'd be cool, and it's
Speaker 2: something I actually want to do. Like another benefit I
Speaker 2: have is a full DII bill, So that's three years
Speaker 2: of cool within the United States or even outside. And
Speaker 2: like I told everybody on my way out, my plan
Speaker 2: is to get an m B A and do this
Speaker 2: and do this, and I'll be at a fortune five
Speaker 2: hundred company, you know, and put that on paper when
Speaker 2: it's just like please let me go.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Do you what, Sae? Do you have an
Speaker 1: ultimate dream or goal of of some kind?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, be a billionaire and have a U
Speaker 2: a supervillain style uh, layer laid into a mountain in
Speaker 2: an abandoned salt mine that has apocalypse proof storage and
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Ambitious.
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that.
Speaker 1: Hmm hmm. I don't know. I'm thinking. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: you right now because, Uh, it's cool that you've you've moved,
Speaker 1: You've you've been able to withstand like moving every year
Speaker 1: of your life. And it sounds as though you know
Speaker 1: it's been difficult, but that you've found good stuff every
Speaker 1: time you do it. It's aspiring to me.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where it's been tough. But
Speaker 2: there's like some folks that, like I met somebody in
Speaker 2: Ohio who the furthest they'd ever been away from home
Speaker 2: was sixty miles, like over the border to Indiana. And
Speaker 2: it's just like I've been literally all over the world,
Speaker 2: and I'm saying you need to do that. But if
Speaker 2: you hate your potu ONNK Town, maybe it's time to
Speaker 2: fire bomb your apartment and just drive.
Speaker 1: I feel like you would get in trouble if you
Speaker 1: fire bombed your apartments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably would, but it's a nice fantasy.
Speaker 1: What is your name again, Mark?
Speaker 2: And how should I address you? Mister forever Lyle mister gecko.
Speaker 1: You can call me whatever you want. Man, thanks for
Speaker 1: talking to me about all this stuff. This is all fascinating.
Speaker 1: It makes me think about I don't know. That's what
Speaker 1: I really like about doing this show is I feel
Speaker 1: like I get to learn about so many people's lives
Speaker 1: and how they deal with whatever the fuck is going
Speaker 1: on with them. And you know, I appreciate you talking
Speaker 1: about all this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no worries. I appreciate you picking up the phone.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: Don't trade options kids on your day trading app And
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Speaker 2: is a low cost SMP five index, fun have a
Speaker 2: good day.
Speaker 1: Words to live by. Thank you, man, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Bute Hi hi, Hi?
Speaker 1: Who is this?
Speaker 3: My name's Rain.
Speaker 1: What's going on right? How you doing? You know?
Speaker 3: I'm I'm all right. I just found out that I
Speaker 3: didn't get a job that I really wanted, So I'm
Speaker 3: a little bummed.
Speaker 1: What was the job?
Speaker 3: A dog trainer?
Speaker 1: A dog trainer?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What were you trying to train the dogs to do?
Speaker 3: All kinds of things? But yeah, most basic obedience and
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, is it is it wrong to train dogs?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Should we just let them misbehave because it's in their nature?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: It's actually not so dogs love to work.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So dogs love to work, and so if you
Speaker 3: give them like purpose, it kind of helps them to
Speaker 3: to grow more pinality and kind of share more of
Speaker 3: a bond with her own nurse. So it actually helps
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel like by the way I I, I, you know,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it sounds as though what you're saying comes
Speaker 1: from like an educated place, But anecdotally, anecdotally, I have
Speaker 1: a dog that's my parents' dog, is not my dog,
Speaker 1: but and that dog does not like to work. That
Speaker 1: dog likes to sit and do absolutely nothing as much
Speaker 1: as she possibly can. Would she would she be happier
Speaker 1: if she worked? Probably? Yeah, I mean I, I, you know,
Speaker 1: I spend lots of time sitting around doing absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: Then I'd probably be happy if I spent it, uh
Speaker 1: going on walks or trying to you know, build a
Speaker 1: church or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's what they say, is like doing things like walking
Speaker 3: and stuff helps with like your mental health and stuff.
Speaker 3: But I don't personally do it myself. I myself is
Speaker 3: just a little bit lazy.
Speaker 1: You know, so you did Why are you so you're
Speaker 1: upset that you didn't get this job? How many different
Speaker 1: door It sounds like dogs are like your thing. How
Speaker 1: many different dog jobs did you apply for?
Speaker 3: I've applied for quite a few. So I currently work
Speaker 3: at a big chain store as a trainer. But it's
Speaker 3: kind of the worst job I've ever ever experienced, not
Speaker 3: the job that I do. I love training and I
Speaker 3: love teaching people and helping them with their dogs. But
Speaker 3: I definitely have applied for many, many positions for training
Speaker 3: at like like big like board and train places that
Speaker 3: are a little bit more professional than I would say
Speaker 3: a pet smart is okay?
Speaker 1: In what way is not to put pets smart on blast?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: What way are they unprofessional?
Speaker 3: Managers? The managers they're they're not very they like to
Speaker 3: pick on everyone, and they kind of are just not
Speaker 3: very good people. And I've been a manager before, so, like, like,
Speaker 3: I was a retail manager beforehand, and I've done all
Speaker 3: kinds of things. Honestly, I was a stripper at one point.
Speaker 3: But you know, so I have definitely met better managers
Speaker 3: in my days, and these managers are just there, almost evil.
Speaker 1: I would say, what evil? You say, what like, well, okay,
Speaker 1: how do you feel like they're evil?
Speaker 5: Well, my one box.
Speaker 3: She just seems to find every little thing and point
Speaker 3: it out, but in the worst way possible. So she'll
Speaker 3: make you feel like you are worthless when she's got you.
Speaker 3: And it's just not you know, I was a manager before,
Speaker 3: and the way you handle talking to people, not making
Speaker 3: them feel like they're the worst thing in the world,
Speaker 3: sounds like you did.
Speaker 1: I just hear a dog bark.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got four of them.
Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds if you If you told me
Speaker 1: you had four dogs, I'd hire you for any kind
Speaker 1: of dog training thing. I feel like that's objective evidence
Speaker 1: that you know how to take care of dogs. Okay,
Speaker 1: why do you you know? You know?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Why do you Why do you think this person fucking
Speaker 1: is so evil to you?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think she's unhappy. Yeah, she's overall unhappy in
Speaker 3: her daily life, and I think that it's something that
Speaker 3: she just doesn't know how to help herself with. And
Speaker 3: I think that the way she handles it is just
Speaker 3: by tin picking people who she just doesn't.
Speaker 5: Like and I'm very I will say I'm very I stand.
Speaker 3: Up for myself. So I will never work in a
Speaker 3: place where I think that, you know, I I that
Speaker 3: I can't stand up and say hey, that's not right.
Speaker 3: So I'm very open and I'll tell her things like, hey,
Speaker 3: this isn't okay. And because I do that, and because
Speaker 3: I bring up like issues that she's not handling, because
Speaker 3: she just wants to let it ride, you know, and
Speaker 3: just kind of ignore it. Because I bring up the
Speaker 3: issues that she kind of dusts under the rugs. I
Speaker 3: don't think she is very happy about that, and so
Speaker 3: she takes a lot of shots at me. I got
Speaker 3: a rid okay right up for being unorganized, you.
Speaker 1: Got to ride up for being over all.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So she's unhappy, so she starts, you know, taking it
Speaker 1: out on another folks. Uh, And you're then that makes
Speaker 1: you unhappy, so you're like, oh am, I gonna put
Speaker 1: up with this shit. So you tell her that she's
Speaker 1: doing so she's sucking up, and that just pisses her off,
Speaker 1: so she starts to do more things that you are
Speaker 1: not exactly Uh huh are you still at this job?
Speaker 3: I am? Yeah. I love the people I teach and
Speaker 3: the classes that I do. So like, I go in
Speaker 3: and I really try to focus on the pet parents
Speaker 3: and the dogs who come in to see me and
Speaker 3: specifically me, which is why it's so hard to leave,
Speaker 3: because I still have classes that are going on right now,
Speaker 3: you know. So it's like one of those things really
Speaker 3: difficult to just pick up and leave all your people
Speaker 3: who you're kind of teaching and helping. You know, these
Speaker 3: people have dogs who are aggressive or you know, jumpers,
Speaker 3: or just overall like anxiety and stuff. And one of
Speaker 3: my big things is to help teach dogs who came
Speaker 3: from like the shelter, you know, who have a rough
Speaker 3: life and who have all those behavioral issues. That's my
Speaker 3: big passion is to help those guys. And so it's
Speaker 3: really hard for me to just walk out of this
Speaker 3: job because you know, I have those those connects to
Speaker 3: those people.
Speaker 1: You know, what's your name again, Rain? Just like the rain, Rain, Rain, Look,
Speaker 1: I look up. I could tell you this. It sounds
Speaker 1: as though you, I mean, clearly you have a passion
Speaker 1: for dogs, and look, I feel like even if you
Speaker 1: didn't get this one job, I think that passion for
Speaker 1: dogs will lend you into something. I mean there's at
Speaker 1: least Look, there is at least ten thousand dogs, so
Speaker 1: there's probably at least how many dogs. How many work
Speaker 1: with me here? How many dog jobs do you think
Speaker 1: there are? Per amount of dogs that exist.
Speaker 3: In the world, There's got to be a good amount
Speaker 3: compared to the dogs I feel okay around the world.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's hard to some pop impoverished places
Speaker 3: or places like Korea or places where they sell dog
Speaker 3: meat and stuff like that, Like it's really hard.
Speaker 1: So and and and I assume, and I assume when
Speaker 1: you say that you want to do a job with dogs,
Speaker 1: selling dog meat.
Speaker 3: Is not Yeah, it's hard to one of those.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so not so we're not including those
Speaker 1: dog jobs. Technically those are technically those are dog jobs.
Speaker 1: They're not the ideal ones under but undeniably they are.
Speaker 1: They are dog they are jobs working with dogs.
Speaker 2: Anyway, very true.
Speaker 3: I would a good amount compared to the amount.
Speaker 2: Of dogs that there are.
Speaker 3: You know this bets. There's trainers, there's dog fitters, there's groomers.
Speaker 1: Mhm. So I mean, listen, I'm sure you'll I am
Speaker 1: I am uh I guess just from talking to you,
Speaker 1: I I'm pretty confident you'll be able to find uh
Speaker 1: a job that involves dogs that doesn't involve you know,
Speaker 1: killing them and selling them. Yeah, and involves the opposite,
Speaker 1: In fact, involves the opposite taken care of them so
Speaker 1: that they do not die. So I think you'll be okay,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Thank you I needed okay.
Speaker 2: Good good good supporting me too.
Speaker 3: And he's kind of cave and helped me when I
Speaker 3: got home and was feeling down.
Speaker 1: That's nice. What does he also does? He does he
Speaker 1: also do dog stuff?
Speaker 3: No, he's a district manager.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Well listen, Rain, is there anything else that
Speaker 1: you would like to say to the people the computer
Speaker 1: before we go?
Speaker 3: Honestly, thank you so much for answering this is I've
Speaker 3: called thousands of times. I must have the last time
Speaker 3: you were on stream, I called at least four hundred times.
Speaker 3: So thank you for answering. Adopt and you know, love dogs,
Speaker 3: love all animals and give them a shot and go
Speaker 3: to your local shelter and you can help someone out.
Speaker 3: And don't forget about the senior dogs.
Speaker 5: They need love to.
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Ray.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, you know I hate the I don't like
Speaker 1: the tiny. I don't like tiny dogs. I don't like
Speaker 1: the little ones. I don't those are those even dogs?
Speaker 1: At that point? Like, I don't like the I hate
Speaker 1: to be biased against, you know. I hate the little
Speaker 1: ones with the with the crap in their eyes, with
Speaker 1: like the little white ones. I mean, they can exist,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't like them. I don't like
Speaker 1: them so much. I wouldn't even eat one.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on all from.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, Lyle, what's up? How you doing? Man? What's
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 4: Nothing much? I'm just sitting on the couch watching my
Speaker 4: wife play Anni Walk Cross.
Speaker 1: Do you sound like you just did a whip it
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 4: I did not, I promise.
Speaker 1: Have we ever talked before.
Speaker 4: One time, long long ago and you were getting raided
Speaker 4: and I was telling you the story about one of
Speaker 4: my shitty neighbors and you're very tired.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm not tired right now. I'm full of
Speaker 1: energy and ready to accept whatever it is you have
Speaker 1: called in to tell me.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: I uh, I don't have anything to tell me you.
Speaker 4: No, I do. I do. I have a pretty stressful job.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, my wife's pregnant. I have a twenty one
Speaker 4: month old baby, and I don't get a lot of
Speaker 4: time to around and do stupid stuff like I used to.
Speaker 1: What kind of stupid stuff did you used to do?
Speaker 4: I go out in miller woods, gone in the middle
Speaker 4: of nowhere for like ten hours or so, just wake
Speaker 4: up super early, get really far out there and just
Speaker 4: have nothing around or things like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see, you have a wife and children, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately your wife and children have impeded your ability to
Speaker 1: go out deep into the woods alone for ten hours
Speaker 1: and fall asleep with nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, but it's okay, it's good. But I found something new.
Speaker 1: Did you bring a did you bring a sleeping bag
Speaker 1: or was just just you?
Speaker 4: I would have a firearm and a GPS tool in
Speaker 4: the backpack with some goodies. I wouldn't sleep, I just
Speaker 4: go walk around.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. I mean, have you ever do you know what
Speaker 1: camping is?
Speaker 4: I do know what camping is.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay. Some people take their families camping, which is
Speaker 1: a version of what you did.
Speaker 4: I could do it, but I try to take a
Speaker 4: pregnant person camping would seem like they wouldn't enjoy it much.
Speaker 4: They're constant discomfort.
Speaker 1: H Okay, So you have a twenty one. How old
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 4: I'm thirty three.
Speaker 1: Nice? Okay, you're like you're you see, you seem like
Speaker 1: a healthy, normal adult man. You kind of seem like
Speaker 1: the guy that would pop up if I googled man
Speaker 1: and went to Google images.
Speaker 4: Maybe. I guess it depends.
Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself a healthy adult man?
Speaker 4: Mm? Well, I guess so. Yeah, I'm pretty. My job
Speaker 4: is stressful, and I just I don't sleep much and
Speaker 4: that's I guess that's all normal stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, what do you do for work?
Speaker 4: I am a veterinarian.
Speaker 1: You're a veterinarian, so you dude, you're yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sleep too if my job was to kill
Speaker 1: dogs all day. That's your job, right, is to kill
Speaker 1: dogs all day?
Speaker 4: And that is a part of it.
Speaker 1: Tell me, honestly, how many Okay, guys, I know the
Speaker 1: whole idea of a veteran is if you're you're supposed
Speaker 1: to save dogs, right true, on a daily basis, how
Speaker 1: many dogs do you kill? And how many dogs do
Speaker 1: you say?
Speaker 4: I guess kill would be zero to four?
Speaker 1: Okay, Dave, I.
Speaker 4: I guess defined save like that something's dying and then
Speaker 4: stop it from dying. Yes, I did that today. That
Speaker 4: was fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you kill any dogs today?
Speaker 4: I did?
Speaker 1: How many dogs do you kill?
Speaker 4: One?
Speaker 1: So you really didn't do anything today?
Speaker 4: Zero zero?
Speaker 1: Does it work like that in your brain? Like at
Speaker 1: the end of a day, do for every dog you saved?
Speaker 1: Does that negate a dog that you kill or are
Speaker 1: those like two just separate things in your brain?
Speaker 4: Oh, you gotta put points upon the scoreboard. No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 4: I'm kidding. I don't even see it as killing something.
Speaker 4: It's like this thing is suffering so immensely. It's like
Speaker 4: a mercy.
Speaker 1: That's hardcore, you know what. That's what Thanos thought too
Speaker 1: when he was snapping people away.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. I explained the plot line of Banos
Speaker 4: to my dad one time and he said, oh, that makes.
Speaker 1: Sense, Bro, That's the thing. I feel like. That's how
Speaker 1: half the people who see that movie come out they kind.
Speaker 4: Of getting, Yeah, that would work.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I don't get what Thanos was
Speaker 1: going for. I don't think it was a good I
Speaker 1: don't think in practice it was a good idea. But
Speaker 1: you know, I get what he was going for.
Speaker 4: The series is good. It sounds.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I mean, yeah, dude, you kill dogs for
Speaker 1: a living, you're gonna be stressed out in that sleep.
Speaker 4: But my wife on Easter bought our baby this bubble
Speaker 4: set and it makes these fucking gigantic bubbles and it
Speaker 4: has inspired something in me. And now if I'm not
Speaker 4: making bubbles, I'm spending at least two hours a day
Speaker 4: thinking about making bubbles.
Speaker 1: What do you like so much about the bubbles?
Speaker 4: The bubbles they're huge first off, and then when you're
Speaker 4: making them with like the two sticks and a stream,
Speaker 4: you get a look inside of them and they're like
Speaker 4: a morphous and they got this kind of they're kind
Speaker 4: of alive window outside and they wabble around and they
Speaker 4: get really long, and they snap into these little, not little,
Speaker 4: the gigantic circles and they're just kind of floating around.
Speaker 4: Then it is it is so fun to see. It's
Speaker 4: like relaxing.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, you've you've regressed into a childlike state of wonder.
Speaker 4: Dude. I researched making my own bubble solutions to make
Speaker 4: bigger bubbles that last longer.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: What did you find glycerin? It's like a plant based
Speaker 4: hand moisturizing thing. I bought like a gallon of it
Speaker 4: on Amazon. I mix it with normal bubble solutions. You
Speaker 4: can put corn stars in there, you let it sit overnight.
Speaker 4: Then you have a park next to my house and
Speaker 4: there's a big grass field with a hill next to it,
Speaker 4: and I stand on top of that hill and I
Speaker 4: just launch these gigantic bubbles out into the ether.
Speaker 1: That's kind of awesome. It sounds you sound like you
Speaker 1: have a good life.
Speaker 4: Yeah I do. I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kill dogs and have a baby and low bubbles.
Speaker 1: That sounds true. It sounds like you again. You seem
Speaker 1: like a normal, healthy adult male me at least in
Speaker 1: my eyes. Man, at least to my eyes, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not hearing anything dire from you. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that to minimize the issues. I'm saying that, no,
Speaker 1: hopefully make you see the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. I want to take my bubble
Speaker 4: wand and everything, and I want to sit outside of
Speaker 4: a music festival and just make these gigantic bubbles for
Speaker 4: people who are tripping and just watch the enjoyment on
Speaker 4: their face. And that's my dream right now.
Speaker 1: That sounds awesome, man. I like that. You ever take
Speaker 1: it to a music festival.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like.
Speaker 1: You what on your wife?
Speaker 4: I was making fun of her because I was like,
Speaker 4: oh Jesus did he he was born today?
Speaker 1: I came alive.
Speaker 4: She's like born Catholic, but she's like not really religious.
Speaker 4: So she tries to do these religious holidays for our kid,
Speaker 4: and I make fun of it. And then I spent
Speaker 4: the entire god En Day playing with her Easter bubble.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. Do you do you blow I know
Speaker 1: you have like a little baby. Do you ever blow
Speaker 1: bubbles at him?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, she she like, uh, will grab the sticks
Speaker 4: out of my hands and she'll make bubbles too, And
Speaker 4: that's a lot of fun to see.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great, man, that's cool. What do you call
Speaker 1: your new you get? That's the cool thing about inventing stuff.
Speaker 1: You get to name it. What have you called your
Speaker 1: new bubble solution?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I haven't. I call it bubble juice,
Speaker 4: Actually bubble juice, but that's not that's more of just
Speaker 4: a descriptor of anything.
Speaker 1: Dude. What if you injected that ship into a dog
Speaker 1: and it saved the dog?
Speaker 4: Oh I highly doubt that, dude.
Speaker 1: What if you injected it into a dog and it
Speaker 1: make it would like make dogs float.
Speaker 4: Like Willy Wonka and the Juice.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I scream at the dog for stealing
Speaker 4: it from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, look, I know that you missed going on
Speaker 1: ten hour walks in the woods, but just from an
Speaker 1: outsider looking in, I think your life has improved since then.
Speaker 4: You're probably right. You know what they don't tell you
Speaker 4: about having a kid? Tell me this constant guilt that
Speaker 4: I feel like I could be doing so much more.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you're doing a lot. Man, What do you
Speaker 1: think more you could be doing?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I don't know. I work four days
Speaker 4: a week, I hang out with her one day week
Speaker 4: and on the weekend my parents take care of her.
Speaker 4: Else The rest of the time my wife is working.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's always stuff more to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know, well, like like what like because you know, look, man,
Speaker 1: if you can't think of anything, don't drive yourself crazy
Speaker 1: over it. What else do you want to do?
Speaker 4: Like if I have to if I have to do
Speaker 4: something on our weekday hang out day, and I have
Speaker 4: to take her to my parents' house, it's time that
Speaker 4: I should be spending with her. But I'm is he
Speaker 4: doing something else? If I want to do something fun
Speaker 4: and my wife watches her for a bit and I
Speaker 4: go do something, or my parents watch her for a bit,
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, there's always like a piece
Speaker 4: of It's like, uh, you suck? Oh?
Speaker 1: Is this you want to do more for yourself?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: No, no more for the baby or for the baby?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I think you have a long
Speaker 1: why I'm in This baby's only twenty one months old?
Speaker 1: Isn't it exciting? You won't be able to say you
Speaker 1: can just start using years soon? You want have to
Speaker 1: do the month's thing. I never understood the months thing anyway,
Speaker 1: you have? This baby's only fucking too a you got
Speaker 1: you got.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Several several more are years to make contribution. And the
Speaker 1: other one isn't even born yet, So sure you haven't
Speaker 1: even you haven't even had Like, you're beating yourself up.
Speaker 1: Hold on office sneeze. Yeah, you're beating yourself up. You're
Speaker 1: beating yourself up over a ship that you haven't even
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to do yet. You're beating yourself up
Speaker 1: for not contributing enough to the life of a baby
Speaker 1: that has not even been born. Yet, give yourself creak.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It'sn't even beating myself up. It's just like a little nag,
Speaker 4: like like a like a like a little ringing, and
Speaker 4: you think about it sometimes and then you bloil bubbles
Speaker 4: and everything floats away.
Speaker 1: Some people, I don't know if this has happened in
Speaker 1: your office. Some people they have a baby and then
Speaker 1: they just abandon it on the door of a vet's
Speaker 1: office and oh my god, I have the vet take
Speaker 1: in the baby. Some people just abandon their children in
Speaker 1: dumpsters and never speak to them again. I want you
Speaker 1: to make that. I want you to go ahead and
Speaker 1: make that. You're new, you make that your baseline. Right.
Speaker 4: I haven't abandoned her.
Speaker 1: You have not abandoned You did not throw your baby
Speaker 1: in the garbage. Oh god, that's your baseline, dude, Right.
Speaker 4: There is something else that happens when you have a baby.
Speaker 4: Tell me as for everybody, your o CD comes out
Speaker 4: like I have this OCD. I used to have it
Speaker 4: when I was a kid. We're all knock on wood constantly.
Speaker 4: If I have I have like intrusive thoughts. Fucking christ, dude.
Speaker 4: The first two months she was born, I feel like
Speaker 4: I had blisters on my knuckles just from knocking wood.
Speaker 4: Knocking wood, intest of thoughts, there's a life on the counter.
Speaker 4: What if it tumbles off the counter, impales her? What
Speaker 4: if this happens, you drop her permanent? You know, just
Speaker 4: oh yeah.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh my god, oh yeah, oh yeah, I
Speaker 6: know right, because it's like when you're when you're just
Speaker 6: when you're just.
Speaker 1: A guy, it's like all you got to worry about
Speaker 1: is yourself and any and like all the bad things
Speaker 1: that could possibly happen to you. And then you fall
Speaker 1: in love, you get married, You're like, all right, now
Speaker 1: is me and all the bad things that could possibly
Speaker 1: happen to my wife and two kids. And it's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, here's all the bad things that can happen
Speaker 1: to two of my kids and my wife and me.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. I feel like everything I just
Speaker 1: said is making it worse. But I understand what you're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 4: Fully, when you remind yourself it doesn't matter. You're like,
Speaker 4: if I stumble upon a cougar out in these woods,
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna deal with it, and whatever happens happens.
Speaker 4: And now it's like I don't want to go there.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're a great dad. You're making fucking
Speaker 1: bubble solution for your children. Man, give yourself a break. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're a good guy. You're a good dad. You didn't
Speaker 1: abandon your children. You care about whether or out they're
Speaker 1: impaled by knives. Oh you're doing good man.
Speaker 4: Thanks dude, you're doing good too. I saw you in
Speaker 4: San Diego. That's pretty fun. Oh you did, Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah did we meet that you? Did you do
Speaker 1: the meet and greet line thing?
Speaker 4: I didn't do the meet and greet line. I had
Speaker 4: to get outtle afterwards.
Speaker 1: Damn. I'm glad you guys. I finally talked to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's a fun shot. It's cool and I had a
Speaker 1: good time. That club is awesome. Shout out, Mike dropped comedy.
Speaker 4: Do you feel I've been meaning to ask you this too?
Speaker 4: Do you feel that the people who are willing to
Speaker 4: step on stage versus the people who are willing to
Speaker 4: call in anonymously are vastly different human beings?
Speaker 1: I have gotten what I believe I have gotten very
Speaker 1: lucky in doing these live shows that the people who
Speaker 1: come on stage, they're like, like almost every time the
Speaker 1: people that come on stage. They're not just like, you
Speaker 1: know whatever, looking for attention or or being like, oh
Speaker 1: I'm on the show. Hey is it. They're like be like,
Speaker 1: everyone's being themselves. Yeah, that's why. That's why. That's why
Speaker 1: I love about the folks who come out to the shows,
Speaker 1: and just the general's vibe I get from the people
Speaker 1: who listen to me is like very genuine people, Like
Speaker 1: they're not performing, you know, they're just like being there.
Speaker 1: They're really being themselves out there, which is a hard
Speaker 1: thing to fucking do in a situation. Like I'm amazed
Speaker 1: at every show that people are, you know, being being
Speaker 1: so genuine like that. It's really cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it answers your question.
Speaker 4: But they really open up.
Speaker 1: What is your name again?
Speaker 4: Well that's my that's my fake name, mouse.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: In my cat he died a name name of mouse Trap.
Speaker 1: Oh well, Mouse, it's good talking to you, man. I
Speaker 1: hope one of these days, I hope you realize that
Speaker 1: you're a good dad. You've been putting in a lot
Speaker 1: of work, and I hope you reward yourself with one
Speaker 1: of your weird ten hour walks with a gun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be good. Maybe that'd be fun.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: No, I am satisfied. I'm happy, have fun. Everybody out there,
Speaker 4: be safe.
Speaker 1: Hey, you take care of mouse? Thank you?
Speaker 4: Man, bet everybody? Oh, Lyle, Hi?
Speaker 1: Who is this?
Speaker 5: This is Gwen?
Speaker 1: What's up? Gwen?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Fine?
Speaker 5: Wow, this is really the first time I've tried to
Speaker 5: call in. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Green What Gwen? What year were you born? Two thousand
Speaker 1: and three? How old does that make you? Twenty twenty
Speaker 1: years old? Okay, what's going on, Gwen?
Speaker 5: Okay, I beginning of last year started to have a
Speaker 5: conniption where I started to for the first time, starts
Speaker 5: randomly having moments where I feel like I'm not on
Speaker 5: the right path and it's sucking me up.
Speaker 1: Okay, last year, you had a caniption, like you had
Speaker 1: a medical is is a conniption a medical term?
Speaker 3: You had?
Speaker 1: You had like your brain went weird.
Speaker 5: That's what a conniption is, right medically.
Speaker 1: But yes, okay, so your brain went weird and you
Speaker 1: feel like you're not on the right path?
Speaker 5: Correct?
Speaker 1: Oh what tell me? What path are you on?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: I'm taking the the typical route, going to college and
Speaker 5: then I'm getting a job.
Speaker 1: Okay, Like.
Speaker 5: I'm studying journalism currently and it's I'm always have wanted
Speaker 5: to be a journalist, but now that I'm here, I'm
Speaker 5: a I'm a sophomore. When I was afraid, was so
Speaker 5: passionate about it, and beginning of last semester, I think
Speaker 5: I started to uh, like more chat more obstacles were
Speaker 5: at it, Like I wasn't just doing school, like like
Speaker 5: I have an actual job. I had a new relationship,
Speaker 5: and I'm like trying to balance all of those with
Speaker 5: also being social. And I think that is what made
Speaker 5: me start questioning everything that I was doing.
Speaker 1: In a way then inspired the connection you just trying
Speaker 1: to live a balanced life inspired a conniption.
Speaker 5: It did, But Bru said before, I wasn't balancing so
Speaker 5: many things, and then it was just like it was
Speaker 5: just chaos. Yeah, I'm doing much this semester, but unpacking
Speaker 5: last semester is troublesome.
Speaker 1: Love well, life's are fucking I mean, it's crazy how
Speaker 1: many things you're a parent. I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: how to be a normal human being because I don't
Speaker 1: like my apartment has fucking dust bunnies on it and
Speaker 1: ship but like the checklist of a normal of of
Speaker 1: what the societal normal human being is, right whatever, Educated
Speaker 1: with a job and a relationship and you know, laundry
Speaker 1: done and friends and you know, reads the news whatever
Speaker 1: it like like completing everything on the uh supposed societal
Speaker 1: todem whatever the fuck is hard. You know, doing a
Speaker 1: balancing all these things you're talking about is difficult, is
Speaker 1: all right? So but you said you were having trouble
Speaker 1: with it last year and you're not having trouble with it
Speaker 1: this year. What tell me about the presence?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So currently I feel like I need to have
Speaker 5: some kind of like I need to start doing internships
Speaker 5: and stuff. Okay, for my major, in order to have
Speaker 5: like a job after college, I need internships. But in
Speaker 5: order to get internships, they want me to have previous experience.
Speaker 5: And I feel like it's just this never ending cycle
Speaker 5: of like.
Speaker 1: Like fuck, what what tell me?
Speaker 3: What do you?
Speaker 1: What is like? Do you have an ultimate goal for?
Speaker 1: Like what do you want you? Okay, I said you
Speaker 1: were into journalism. Are you still into journalism?
Speaker 5: I am still into journalism. I got a little radio
Speaker 5: show I write for like school newspaper, and it's really
Speaker 5: and I enjoy it. But I definitely don't write for
Speaker 5: the newspaper as often because it's such a it feels
Speaker 5: like such a task. But I mean writing is an
Speaker 5: all journalism't it?
Speaker 1: Okay? So do you what is it? What do you
Speaker 1: ultimately like want to do? You have like a career
Speaker 1: in mind that you would like to pursue or like
Speaker 1: a dream?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I I definitely want to do something
Speaker 5: involving like media, like media and analysis for her analysts
Speaker 5: and working with social medias of people's companies. Like I
Speaker 5: think that's what I want to do.
Speaker 1: A media What does a media anal? What does a
Speaker 1: media analyst do?
Speaker 5: They like analyze how how companies are properly using our
Speaker 5: social media to people more business.
Speaker 1: I thought, for too for a second, I thought you
Speaker 1: were going to say they analyzed media, and I was
Speaker 1: going to go, you know what, that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. I I don't. I try not to give
Speaker 1: advice because but this I feel like I have. I
Speaker 1: feel like I have good advice for this lane. So
Speaker 1: I will advise. I will advise. I Actually I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm about to make your life worse because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you to do things and and you the whole
Speaker 1: crux of this call was that you were doing too
Speaker 1: many things. So this is not gonna help or maybe
Speaker 1: well anyway, actually let's start here. Are you Are you
Speaker 1: going into debt to go to school?
Speaker 5: I am not going into debt to go to school,
Speaker 5: which I am so grateful for.
Speaker 1: Okay, wonderful, All right, okay, cool, So that's good. Here's
Speaker 1: my thing is intern You know, internships are great. I
Speaker 1: worked a lot of internships in the in the film
Speaker 1: and media arts universe. But if you want to be
Speaker 1: a social media analyst and like help companies run their
Speaker 1: social media, why don't you like just start a business
Speaker 1: doing that. You can start doing that, you know you can.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can just start doing that right now.
Speaker 1: You could start a business doing that right now. When
Speaker 1: I was in fucking college, I worked for a I
Speaker 1: was twenty, and I worked for a kid who was old,
Speaker 1: just a one year older than me, and he had
Speaker 1: a whole fuck he was twenty, was like not even
Speaker 1: that much. He was used like pretty your age, and
Speaker 1: he did this company where he was like consulting businesses
Speaker 1: on marketing and social media and stuff, and you know,
Speaker 1: he he he didn't know any more than than you do.
Speaker 1: He just did. He just did the thing, you know,
Speaker 1: just put himself out there. He had the courage to
Speaker 1: do that. So look, what I'm saying to you is
Speaker 1: if you really wanted to, you could start that business
Speaker 1: right now. Like you don't have to wait for permission
Speaker 1: for somebody to give you that. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: idea has crept into your head or if it's a
Speaker 1: helpful idea for you. No, this is good mhm, because
Speaker 1: like having a social media marketing business is again something
Speaker 1: you could do right now. You can Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: you go on are you a bit? Are you a
Speaker 1: TikTok person? A big TikToker?
Speaker 5: I like, not huge, but I enjoy.
Speaker 1: TikTok okay, because you could go on TikTok right now
Speaker 1: and just start making you know, I mean, I find
Speaker 1: an interesting way to do it because the's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that do this stuff, but you know, talk
Speaker 1: about trends or just use your expertise to make videos
Speaker 1: and then go to every dentist's office in your local
Speaker 1: municipality and be like, hey, you want me to be
Speaker 1: your social media manager for so you can get more
Speaker 1: teeth money. I mean, you can just do that right now.
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait for uh, you know, anyone
Speaker 1: should give you permission to do that.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make the problems that here's what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you if you take that route, which I think
Speaker 1: you should.
Speaker 5: Okay, I like build a brand like Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make the problems that we were talking about
Speaker 1: earlier about about one hundred thousand times worse. And and
Speaker 1: actually now I'm thinking about now, I'm thinking about nothing.
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking about it. No, I'm thinking about it
Speaker 1: because it will make the problems you were just talking
Speaker 1: about one hundred thousand thimes worse. It might not be
Speaker 1: the best lifestyle fit for you to like run your
Speaker 1: own business, and that's okay. If it's not, you might
Speaker 1: you might, just as a human being, be happier working
Speaker 1: for somebody else's thing. But you should not. But you
Speaker 1: should try it all. You should try both of those
Speaker 1: so that you can figure out which situation would make
Speaker 1: you happier. Right, does that makes What do you think
Speaker 1: about what I'm saying to you?
Speaker 5: I like what you're saying. I feel like you're I'm
Speaker 5: because I'm also thinking about how I like the idea,
Speaker 5: like it's not I want like I think I'm finally
Speaker 5: starting to manage having this balanced life, like for the
Speaker 5: first time, sure, throwing new things.
Speaker 2: In the mix.
Speaker 1: All right, good, I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you could be a market dude.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Look you sooner or later you're gonna be up there
Speaker 1: with fucking Gary Vee and Tony Robbins yelling at people
Speaker 1: about how they're not making enough YouTube shorts and those
Speaker 1: people people will you know, they'll give you money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's also the worry in being a shitty journalist.
Speaker 5: But I know I'm not going to be a shitty journalist.
Speaker 1: But what do you mean a shitty What do you
Speaker 1: mean a shitty journalist?
Speaker 5: Like people who for like I don't know, creating maybe
Speaker 5: fake news or like what do you.
Speaker 1: What do you?
Speaker 3: What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you talk? What are you talking? Where's that
Speaker 1: coming from? I don't know, Because here's another thing. If
Speaker 1: you wanted to write, like you could start a you know, well,
Speaker 1: I guess now there's like medium or I'm just saying everything.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know because in like the
Speaker 1: the arts stuff. And I've talked to people about this
Speaker 1: on the podcast a bunch, like if you want to
Speaker 1: be a journalist or a social media person like and
Speaker 1: and I understand that there's a lot of value in
Speaker 1: getting internships, and you should because you know it's but
Speaker 1: these are all things you could just you could just do.
Speaker 1: You don't have to ask somebody for permission to write something.
Speaker 1: You can just go and write it and post it
Speaker 1: on Medium or talk about it on TikTok, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're a journalist. There's there's motherfuckers with
Speaker 1: these YouTube channels where they like like, I watched an
Speaker 1: hour long YouTube video about the fucking Nickelodeon Hotel the
Speaker 1: other day. Yeah, do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: The guy who makes that that guy, that guy didn't
Speaker 1: that guy just that guy's a journalist. He did a
Speaker 1: fucking investigative report about the Nickelodeon Hotel. He didn't go
Speaker 1: to CNN and say, hey, can I write about the
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon Hotel, because if he did, they would have said no.
Speaker 1: So he just did the report and he made it.
Speaker 1: Now he's a journalist and asking them for permission. You know,
Speaker 1: and I just want you to know that you can
Speaker 1: do that if you want to, Right.
Speaker 5: I just take my own path, yes.
Speaker 1: But I also want you I also we should be
Speaker 1: aware of the fact, just because you know you wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about balance, that the guy who made that
Speaker 1: one hour YouTube video about the Nickelodeon hotel almost certainly
Speaker 1: destroyed his life in the process. He almost certainly several
Speaker 1: times neglected his wife and children to you know, because
Speaker 1: he was getting emails from somebody who had found lost
Speaker 1: decals of Tommy Pickles. That was useful information to him,
Speaker 1: and he missed plenty of important life events because of it.
Speaker 1: But he did it, and he didn't ask anyone for
Speaker 1: permission to make his Nickelodeonal health video, even though it
Speaker 1: almost certainly destroyed his life. So I just want you
Speaker 1: to know that you could do that and fuck up
Speaker 1: your balance to achieve your dreams.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: What was this conversation helpful to you at all?
Speaker 5: While it was helpful to me. I at you as
Speaker 5: we're talking because it's trusting me out.
Speaker 1: But Gwen, is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 5: Just have a great evening and hope everyone is feeling
Speaker 5: good and doing well.
Speaker 1: Have a good night, Gwen, Thank you, thank you. I
Speaker 1: was I was trying to make a point when I
Speaker 1: was talked about he got an email about lost decals
Speaker 1: on a It felt clunky, though, but you guys understood
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say. Sometimes I'm clunky. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I suck. I don't know why I'm being hard on myself.
Speaker 1: I hope Gwen does the thing I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I get heated. Let this. I'm sure I've talked about
Speaker 1: this on the fucking podcast a thousand nuts. I get heated,
Speaker 1: but about those kind of things, because I don't want
Speaker 1: Gwen thinking that, you know, she has to fucking you know,
Speaker 1: beg and plead some newspaper thing to be a journalist
Speaker 1: when she can just you know, write about whatever she
Speaker 1: wants and talk about it on YouTube or medium. I
Speaker 1: went to the Nickelodeon Hotel. It was awesome. It was great. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything else to add to that, But
Speaker 1: go watch this guy. Go search I think his name.
Speaker 1: His name is Defunct land Actually, yeah, go go look
Speaker 1: up Defunk Landing. He makes great YouTube videos at the
Speaker 1: expense of I'm sure I don't know fun. He probably
Speaker 1: goes to the gym and does laundry and stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Everything goes on the line, taking your phone calls every nine.
Speaker 2: Everything goes to teach them line
Speaker 4: Lady an expert