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Speaker 2: about the NBA lead in Cleveland Cavaliers, who won their
Speaker 2: fourteenth consecutive game on the road tonight. They beat the
Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks one twelve to one hundred. The cav just
Speaker 2: became the second team to win fourteenth straight games while
Speaker 2: scoring at least one hundred and ten points in each
Speaker 2: of those games. The only time that's ever happened nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty six, the Boston Celtics won the title. Max Struce
Speaker 2: had seventeen points to lead a ballance scoring attack.
Speaker 1: They had, their five starters were in double figures. Excuse me.
Speaker 2: They got thirty eight points from their bench, nine of
Speaker 2: their nineteen may threes from their bench, and they pull
Speaker 2: away late and they defeat the Milwaukee Bucks one twelfth
Speaker 2: to one hundred, and it just goes to show you
Speaker 2: just how good this team is. Because we know Donovan
Speaker 2: Michigan can go off. We seen him score seventy, We've
Speaker 2: seen him have fifty. But when you have a team
Speaker 2: Evan Moldley, Jared Allen, Daris Garland, Screws, you got Todd Jerome,
Speaker 2: one hundred Meryll, they really have a really deep team,
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a look. I still believe it's
Speaker 2: gonna come down to them in the Boston Celtics. The
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics, they beat the Lakers last night. They look
Speaker 2: really good because you have a guy in Jason Tatum
Speaker 2: who's gonna be first team All.
Speaker 1: NBA again this year.
Speaker 2: You have JB Jalen Brown, who's gonna be probably second
Speaker 2: of third team All NBA this year. Al Horford played
Speaker 2: really good last night. You got guys that can make shots,
Speaker 2: Garrick White, you got really good perimeter defenders and Holiday
Speaker 2: and Derrick White. And then you got a bitch man.
Speaker 2: Peyton Pritchard is unbelievable off the bench. He should be
Speaker 2: in the runner for six Man of the Year. But
Speaker 2: tonight was all about the Cavaliers. They moved to a
Speaker 2: record of fifty four and ten. The Bucks dropped the
Speaker 2: thirty six and twenty seven the Calves.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, what do you like about the Cavs?
Speaker 4: I mean, listen what they can do in their totality
Speaker 4: as a team. You just said that. I thought, obviously,
Speaker 4: when it's coming into the season, who would be the
Speaker 4: biggest threat for the Celtics coming off an NBA championship.
Speaker 5: To me, I thought it would be the Bucks.
Speaker 4: I thought Damian Giannis and that combination of what they had,
Speaker 4: similar to how Luke and Lebron.
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke and Lebron teamed.
Speaker 4: Up, but before Luke even got there, I say, you
Speaker 4: know what the biggest threat for the Celtics would be
Speaker 4: would be the Bucks. But watching the way the Cavs
Speaker 4: play as a team, you know, obviously led by Garland
Speaker 4: and Donovan Mitchell, the supporting cast, the bench, everyone is scoring.
Speaker 4: Look how many Look how many players were in double
Speaker 4: figures at night? When you have a team all five starters, Yeah,
Speaker 4: all five started, when everybody's playing vacuumplete and nobody is off,
Speaker 4: it makes it that much much, that much more dembo
Speaker 4: for them to be beat. And I wouldn't be surprised. Hell,
Speaker 4: a lot of people shouldn't be surprised. I mean, most
Speaker 4: people will call me a casual. You know, those are
Speaker 4: the actual NBA fans. Won't be surprised if they do
Speaker 4: unseat the Celtics as NBA champions this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna I think it'll be a
Speaker 2: deep series that's going six or at least seven. I
Speaker 2: thought the Knicks would be there also because the addition
Speaker 2: of Karl Anthony Towns. I like that addition better with
Speaker 2: the Knicks more so than I like that. I like
Speaker 2: Julius Randall.
Speaker 4: What's up timeout the knicksunk? You really put them in
Speaker 4: that in that running No, I said.
Speaker 2: I thought, coming into the season, with the addition of
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns with Jaylen Brunts to look at what
Speaker 2: they did last.
Speaker 1: Year only two months a though. I mean, we talk
Speaker 1: about scoring.
Speaker 4: The scorer that's able to actually score, put the ball
Speaker 4: on the floor and just score at will. It's only
Speaker 4: Jaylen Brumpton and Carl that's say it.
Speaker 1: But look look at what they got.
Speaker 2: They got Adaoby, they got Michael Bridges, They Josh Hart,
Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson hurt, you know him going out because now
Speaker 2: you're you know, Cat's playing spending a lot of time
Speaker 2: at the five, and he probably he likes playing at
Speaker 2: the four. So if you'd had Mitchell Robinson and Cat
Speaker 2: sometimes they got Princess precious secure they got they got
Speaker 2: a deep team. They do and I thought, considering they
Speaker 2: were gonna be healthy because you got a guy in
Speaker 2: Cat that can dominate.
Speaker 1: Yes, Jalen Brunson, we know he can dominate.
Speaker 2: Bridges can give you quality points, and he's they got
Speaker 2: great defense. O G can defend, Josh Hart, can defend
Speaker 2: Michael Bridges. He doesn't miss games. He can defend. So
Speaker 2: they had it all. I thought Cleveland would be there,
Speaker 2: but I didn't see fifty four and ten.
Speaker 1: Now, did I think there will be a top three team? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: You probably thought Philly would be there also with Joe
Speaker 2: l and B Paul George Tyris MAAXI. You probably thought
Speaker 2: those guys would be there, but injuries maybe by had me.
Speaker 2: But Jimmy Butler, you know, he got nicked and he
Speaker 2: was unhappy and they moved him. So right now, looking
Speaker 2: at the East head, it's a two headed monster. It's
Speaker 2: the Cavaliers and the Celtics. It looks like the Cavs
Speaker 2: are gonna have home court, but Boston have one of
Speaker 2: the better road records in the NBA, so it's not
Speaker 2: gonna be easy. Do I believe the Cavaliers can have
Speaker 2: this cap of ballance score and you win. Now, somebody
Speaker 2: one of those two guys, Garland or Mitchell, is gonna
Speaker 2: probably need to be twenty five thirty and then everybody
Speaker 2: else chip in. But I don't think because with JB
Speaker 2: and JT teaming up for last night, they went for
Speaker 2: seventy and probably on average they're gonna go for anywhere
Speaker 2: between fifty and sixty on a given night. You're gonna
Speaker 2: probably need a little bit more from your big guns.
Speaker 2: But the Cavaliers look really good. And when you have
Speaker 2: a balanced team and your bitch comes in, they give
Speaker 2: you thirty eight points on the road, they give you
Speaker 2: nine of the nineteen threes that you made on the road.
Speaker 2: And they got shoot they got great outside. Wade was
Speaker 2: three or three from the three point line. Hunter did
Speaker 2: not shoot the ball particularly well last night, but he's
Speaker 2: in the running for six.
Speaker 1: Man of the Year. Tied.
Speaker 2: Jerome can shoot it, Merrill can shoot it. Uh, They're
Speaker 2: gonna be a tough foutout Joe, They're gonna be a
Speaker 2: tough out. But the Celtics, man, they deep. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they come in with that second unit and they they
Speaker 2: picked right up.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: It's kind of reminds you of like what the Calves
Speaker 1: nuts to excuse me, what the Warriors used to be.
Speaker 2: Remember, they bring their second unit in with Livingston and
Speaker 2: all those guys, And if it was like a three
Speaker 2: four point lead with the time Clay and Steph and
Speaker 2: Draymond came back, it was a ten or eleven point lead, yeah,
Speaker 2: or if they were behind they came back, the game
Speaker 2: was tied. So I see a lot of this from
Speaker 2: the from the Cavaliers. Also, I like their bench. I
Speaker 2: like their depth. Uh, their starters are really good, heavy molders,
Speaker 2: a defender who's gotten better offense. You know what Jared
Speaker 2: You're gonna get from Jared Allen. You don't have to
Speaker 2: run plays for him. And he can rebound. He could
Speaker 2: score the basketball a lot of lives. He gonna get
Speaker 2: a lot of bit points off the glass, rebounding, rolling
Speaker 2: to the rim. But it's gonna be led by that
Speaker 2: three headed monster Garland, Mitchell and Mobley.
Speaker 1: And if they keep playing the way they're playing, I
Speaker 1: like them.
Speaker 2: I think I still believe it's gonna come down to
Speaker 2: them and the Celtics and the Insta Conference Finals.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know what, it's gonna be a good matchup.
Speaker 5: It's good. That's probably what's going to come down to.
Speaker 4: It ain't probably, That's probably what it's going to come
Speaker 4: down to, as long as there are no injuries, which
Speaker 4: I doubt that's going to happen with it not that
Speaker 4: much time, but it must not that much season left
Speaker 4: into the regular season, So listen, I'm I'm excited. I mean,
Speaker 4: I I'm excited. I'm excited for the Caves. Bro I'm
Speaker 4: excited for the Caves, especially what they've been through, especially
Speaker 4: once Lebron left, and and how how far they had
Speaker 4: to come to get to this point where they are
Speaker 4: now to we're even even without King James.
Speaker 1: There, they legit have a shot. They legit have a
Speaker 1: What happened.
Speaker 2: It was a situation where where Donald Mitchell wasn't happy
Speaker 2: and he has to be traded.
Speaker 1: That was the only way. Yeah, you got to get
Speaker 1: a superstar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, if the superstar leaves, but that's you
Speaker 2: have to replace it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's that's not only that's not the only answer.
Speaker 4: Not only do you have to have a superstar, but
Speaker 4: you have to have that supporting caves.
Speaker 1: Hell.
Speaker 4: Yes, man, Now you ain't gonna have no success unless
Speaker 4: you got your Robin.
Speaker 2: But here's what happened. Think about it. They they Lebron leaves,
Speaker 2: and that means you lose. And now you're drafting high.
Speaker 2: You're getting a Darius Garland, you're getting to Evan Mobley,
Speaker 2: you're getting guys like that.
Speaker 1: You make a trade for Jared Allen.
Speaker 2: Now see now and all of a sudden, like hey man,
Speaker 2: I kind of like it over there, Donald Mitchell said,
Speaker 2: and boom, so now you got Garland a draft pick.
Speaker 2: We got Vin Mobley was a top five pick. You
Speaker 2: got a Jared Allen who can rebound, can defend the paint.
Speaker 2: You don't have to roll plate run plays for him,
Speaker 2: and he can get your double double.
Speaker 1: And you got a.
Speaker 2: Bona fide superstar in Donovan Mitchell who's an All NBA,
Speaker 2: a perennial All Star. Now you got your team. Yes,
Speaker 2: now let's build it out. Now let's get us some depth.
Speaker 2: We make the trade for DeAndre Hunter, we get you know,
Speaker 2: we got tied jer romy We got you Move Strusant
Speaker 2: the start of like be good. Yeah, I mean sometimes
Speaker 2: you have to have a little luck. You have to
Speaker 2: have a little lucky. You're getting lucky. You got draft compings.
Speaker 2: You know that you can shift some of the pieces
Speaker 2: out because you gave up Colin Sexton, who was a
Speaker 2: high draft pick. You give him up, You gave up
Speaker 2: an other couple of draft picks, and you get Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1: I like, I like what you just said. The keyword
Speaker 1: you just said.
Speaker 4: There obviously drafting right, but also luck as well, because
Speaker 4: you already had high draft picks. You had picks that
Speaker 4: came in that were high draft picks that you had
Speaker 4: to let go and you got others. They were able
Speaker 4: to feel those spots and fill those boards. But the
Speaker 4: team they have now, they've and the players they've acquired
Speaker 4: all played well collectively. And I think that's the hard
Speaker 4: thing to do because you look at some of the
Speaker 4: big some of the top three I call them the
Speaker 4: big three, some of the big three faces that we
Speaker 4: thought would be in the playoffs or playing well. I'll oh,
Speaker 4: Paul George, Maxie and the Mac even just those three together,
Speaker 4: forget the injuries part.
Speaker 1: They still don't. They still haven't lived up to what
Speaker 1: we thought they would be.
Speaker 2: They just well that that's because Jordan Bid I mean
Speaker 2: started the season banged up, and yeah, Paul George started
Speaker 2: the season bang up and he hasn't been able to
Speaker 2: fight his RiPP Tyre's Max is playing extremely well. He's
Speaker 2: averaging twenty five, twenty six, twenties, maybe even twenty seven
Speaker 2: points a game. So he's doing what you thought he
Speaker 2: would do and what you would hoped he would do.
Speaker 2: It was you missing Joel and b somewhere between twenty
Speaker 2: eight and thirty two points, You missing Paul George somewhere
Speaker 2: between nineteen and twenty two points. So you factor that in.
Speaker 2: Now you're getting eighty points. Now can we get the
Speaker 2: bitch to give us thirty five?
Speaker 1: Leave man?
Speaker 2: So when in a situation like that, I mean probably
Speaker 2: something we put the shore foreseen. Considering Joel and b
Speaker 2: limped out of the limped out of.
Speaker 5: The season, you're gonna limp in it, and as soon.
Speaker 2: As the season was over two months later, he's gonna
Speaker 2: be Olympic team. The US national men's team didn't take
Speaker 2: the rest, didn't get what get he didn't get fixed?
Speaker 2: Probably what he needed to get fixed. So guess what
Speaker 2: he limped into the season and guess what he's doing now.
Speaker 2: O Joe limping out of the season A avid question.
Speaker 4: Be honest for me on even if you had the injury,
Speaker 4: if you and Jolden be with the opportunity to represent
Speaker 4: your country at the Olympics, knowing that it comes around
Speaker 4: every every four years, what we do?
Speaker 1: What would you have done? My obligations to the seventy
Speaker 1: six ers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy six has got five years, a two hundred
Speaker 2: and forty million dollars on the table.
Speaker 1: How much you make?
Speaker 2: I get it, and I get it because the America
Speaker 2: he's from Cameroon, in America, has given him everything and
Speaker 2: more he could have asked for. Yes, sir, now a
Speaker 2: lot of that half the luck he came here. This
Speaker 2: is the land of opportunity. Jordan Beide had a talent
Speaker 2: God blessed than me. He hit the genetic lottery. He's
Speaker 2: someth foot tall, he's extremely skilled and boom. He parlayed that.
Speaker 2: But oh chose yes, sir. Your obligation, Philly, Yeah, it
Speaker 2: made you. Gave you generational wealth. Not to the United
Speaker 2: States national men's team and the gold medal. Don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, You're representing your country, right, But bro, you
Speaker 2: were injured, you lipped.
Speaker 1: Out of the season. Back shut it down, get.
Speaker 2: Healthy, right and then say you know what a twenty
Speaker 2: eight boom your boy here? Nah, I know absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I I for me, Oh the most important thing. That's
Speaker 2: why a lot of times, man, when I was in
Speaker 2: a contract year, Man, I ain't trying to go to
Speaker 2: no Pro Bowl. I ain't trying to get up out there,
Speaker 2: O Joe noting trying to remember yeah, man, please right
Speaker 2: right right, And like I said, I get Look, maybe
Speaker 2: it was the Swan song wanted to get opportunity because
Speaker 2: Lebron is not going to be there in twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Still probably not going to be there in twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Katie saying, look if I'm still hooping to the level
Speaker 2: and I'm able, Hey, I like to play twenty and
Speaker 2: I like to go for five gold medals. He has
Speaker 2: the most, he has four, and but Katy says, hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would like to go. I would like to try to,
Speaker 2: you know, run it back on home soil. And maybe
Speaker 2: Jordan that was something your But for me, I'm always
Speaker 2: go I'm always going to be in a situation where
Speaker 2: I look at who's paying me, right, That's where my
Speaker 2: obligation lies, is that who's saying So that's just me
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, he did what he
Speaker 2: wanted to do. He did was in the best interest
Speaker 2: of them. But I look, they was looking at France
Speaker 2: and Wemby and y'ab was Soule, and you got Janes
Speaker 2: and you got Yoke, so you knew probably you're gonna
Speaker 2: run in You're gonna run into those guys, and you
Speaker 2: needed somebody to deal with Yoke. You needed somebody that
Speaker 2: to be able to, you know, to handle the bigs
Speaker 2: and for other countries. Even though it would I get
Speaker 2: all that, I honestly do I really do. I don't
Speaker 2: want people to think I'm not empathetic and understanding. But
Speaker 2: a team invested five years at two hundred and forty million.
Speaker 2: They just gave him a three year, Oh Joe, they
Speaker 2: gave him a three year extension for one hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety three million dollars.
Speaker 5: I understand.
Speaker 4: But you know, honestly, if if you asked, if you
Speaker 4: ask people especially that would be in his position, is
Speaker 4: what they would do.
Speaker 5: If you asked a hundred people, you get a hundred
Speaker 5: different answers.
Speaker 4: On's That's why I was curious to what you would say,
Speaker 4: and I'm curious to the chat. I mean, obviously, putting
Speaker 4: yourself in his shoes, in his situation, with the opportunity
Speaker 4: to represent you know, obviously the USA, just everybody's answer
Speaker 4: would be different.
Speaker 5: But I understand, you know where you're coming from.
Speaker 2: You know what I think it is, O Joe, it's
Speaker 2: my mentality that I play football, that my money isn't guaranteed.
Speaker 2: See he did that because he knows his money is guaranteed,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: It changes that everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it changes everything. It's like it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a salary worker, they take PTO.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're not a salary worker and you only
Speaker 2: get paid if you show your black ass up to work,
Speaker 2: that changes thing. Trust me, I had manual jobs that
Speaker 2: I only got paid if I showed up. The word
Speaker 2: it's a whole different ball game. If you salaried.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Hey, when you salary you know, in a situation where
Speaker 2: you salary hill, I take CTO choice time off.
Speaker 1: I'm choosing not to come in to day till I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get my check.
Speaker 2: Well, when you work in manual jobs and you work
Speaker 2: in an hourly job, NBA, that's guaranteed money. MLB, that's
Speaker 2: guaranteed money. NHL, that's guaranteed money. NFL that's not guaranteed money.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's what's clouding my judgment.
Speaker 1: O't joke.
Speaker 2: Now, don't get me wrong. I think a gold medal
Speaker 2: is is very important. I mean, hey, representing your country
Speaker 2: and for maybe an event, maybe a week, maybe two weeks,
Speaker 2: we're one. It's us against them. I don't care if
Speaker 2: the if it's a if it's a European country, I
Speaker 2: don't care. If it's an African country, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: We USA. We started to strike with the Red, white
Speaker 2: and blue, and we'll givest everybody else. Okay, But like
Speaker 2: I said, I think it's my I think it's by
Speaker 2: your being in an NFL. Like man, I ain't fee
Speaker 2: the mess about buddy, right, Oh Joe, shake kill Just
Speaker 2: Alexander scored forty points today as the Thunder defeated the
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets won twenty seven to one O three in
Speaker 2: the battle of the two of the top West contenders.
Speaker 2: But the big news came when Nikola Jokic Yoke became
Speaker 2: the first player at NBA history to record a thirty
Speaker 2: twenty twenty game in overtime win against the Suns, Yoke
Speaker 2: finished thirty one points, twenty one rebounds, and a season
Speaker 2: high twenty two assists. He ranks thirteen points per game
Speaker 2: twenty eight, thirty rebounds per game twelve point eight, second
Speaker 2: in assists per game ten point four. This season, he's
Speaker 2: averaging more points and more assists than he did when
Speaker 2: he won the MVP in his three previous seasons. The
Speaker 2: only thing that's working against him is Shae is playing
Speaker 2: out of his mind. Crazy and they're the number one seed.
Speaker 1: Crazy work any other season.
Speaker 2: You could make a case that Yoke would probably be
Speaker 2: trying to go for five because Joel and b clipped
Speaker 2: in one year, he finished second. He won it last
Speaker 2: year after previous two years of being back to back
Speaker 2: and be clipped him, and then he comes back and
Speaker 2: wins again this year.
Speaker 1: But he I mean, Yolk, I mean, what do you say?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really know what it's like. I mean,
Speaker 1: what word?
Speaker 2: What adjuctive do you want to use to describe what
Speaker 2: you're seeing from the Kola Jokic man.
Speaker 4: Listen, the resume speaks for himself, the accolades, the MVPs,
Speaker 4: the numbers, the stats you I mean, you watch him play.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw a slight comparison out there to somebody
Speaker 4: who just got traded based on style of play and
Speaker 4: the way they move and how they have a very
Speaker 4: lethargic style of style of play. But I'm gonna let
Speaker 4: that go because he's very efficient at what he does.
Speaker 4: He's very, very, very good at what he does. He
Speaker 4: looks exhausted. He looks exhausted in that game, no towards
Speaker 4: the end. Yeah, yeah, I'm because they're playing. I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to say he's out of shape.
Speaker 5: Or nothing.
Speaker 4: You know, I ain't trying to say he's smoking hoop
Speaker 4: and beer or nothing like that. I'm just saying, oh,
Speaker 4: he's like, you're gonna get his beer on that he
Speaker 4: drank his beer. But here's the thing, Oh, Joe, he
Speaker 4: played forty one minutes. They're only forty eight minutes in
Speaker 4: the game. He played forty eight. Jamal Murray played forty two.
Speaker 4: So that's normally they don't normally play.
Speaker 2: You normally get the forty minutes once you go overtime
Speaker 2: or you go double overtime. Guys are not especially as
Speaker 2: they start to aid, Yeah, they don't normally play that
Speaker 2: many minutes. Had a regular season game, now postseason game eight,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to win every game matters. Yeah, they're not catching.
Speaker 2: Nobody is catching. Okay, see for the top seed. Now
Speaker 2: you're jockeying maybe two through six because you want to
Speaker 2: stay out of the play in seven through ten. Is
Speaker 2: to play in anything above that, you hey, your position,
Speaker 2: you jockey in for a position. Lakers right now, I
Speaker 2: think they have sected percentage points. It's gonna go back
Speaker 2: and forth. Lebron got injured last night and we'll see
Speaker 2: how that plays out and then you got Memphis, you
Speaker 2: got Houston, you got Golden State, trying to climb up
Speaker 2: the ladder. But basically you're trying to stay at that
Speaker 2: two through six range because you're not catching OKC for
Speaker 2: the number one seed.
Speaker 1: But when you look at what Yoki is doing, and
Speaker 1: like you said.
Speaker 2: Today, twenty four points, thirteen rebounds, nine assis how he
Speaker 2: had a steal and he only had two turnovers. But
Speaker 2: like you said, they didn't shoot the ball well. He
Speaker 2: was two or ten from three. Jamal Murray one of
Speaker 2: five from three. Michael Porter junr was three up eight
Speaker 2: from three, even though he shot the ball from the
Speaker 2: floor really well. But if you go look at it,
Speaker 2: Porter Junior played thirty eight minutes. Yo played forty one minutes,
Speaker 2: Murray played forty two minutes. Yeah, even Russ played thirty
Speaker 2: one minutes. Russ had a Yeah, he was one for nine,
Speaker 2: one to five. They didn't really get a whole lot
Speaker 2: from the bench. They only got a left one.
Speaker 1: They get level. They got fourteen points from the bench.
Speaker 4: And that's too the inconsistently with their bench.
Speaker 1: Yokurt good, Murray is good.
Speaker 4: But listen, there's one other team outside of OKC where
Speaker 4: they play collectively great. Even when the starters are out,
Speaker 4: everybody collectively is putting in the effort and putting the
Speaker 4: work and getting the points held in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 4: and they scored.
Speaker 1: Forty one damn points in the in the final quarter. Now,
Speaker 1: the only team that had the bench like that is
Speaker 1: efficient as soon as they come off.
Speaker 4: When the starter is on plan, it's calves, it looks,
Speaker 4: it looks exactly the same way. Okay, you know what,
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem even though it's a game
Speaker 4: of runs. I know my second my second unit to
Speaker 4: come in and still keep the game, still, keep the
Speaker 4: game going, still keep the game going forward. Where we're
Speaker 4: in the lead, we're we're still in contingent where we
Speaker 4: don't have to come back into the game and have
Speaker 4: another another run where we have to.
Speaker 2: Either catch up or try to decrease the lead. Mm hmm,
Speaker 2: but uh yeah, who a year, it's a two horse race.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you that MVP MVP they dropped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm being I'm being truthful that everybody knows that they
Speaker 1: dropped Yonni.
Speaker 4: So with that being said, has your thoughts on the
Speaker 4: MVP changed based on the way Joker's playing?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 1: Shade. It's still okay, Okay, I want to make sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he leading the league in scoring.
Speaker 2: His team is number one, He has the most twenty
Speaker 2: point games, thirty point games, forty point game, fifty point games. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: my and I think everybody knows. Y'all know what I
Speaker 2: think about Yoke. He's been one of my favorite players
Speaker 2: since he got into the NBA. And you kind of
Speaker 2: figured out who he was because at first you said Nurkic.
Speaker 2: They were in the same draft. They took Nurkic, and
Speaker 2: then they took him in the second round. With that
Speaker 2: being said, you could see they traded. They traded nurk
Speaker 2: and you or you could understand why.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't think they knew he would beat this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you could see probably you see him in
Speaker 2: practice and you see him doing things.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think they thought he would be this now,
Speaker 2: a three time MVP, potentially, I'm gonna be shot if
Speaker 2: he doesn't win another MVP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be shot. Now. Stranger things have happened.
Speaker 2: Lebron James had four MVP from by the age of
Speaker 2: twenty eight, yes, sir, and never won another one. So
Speaker 2: that's not to say it's guaranteed, but it's hard with
Speaker 2: the numbers that he's putting up for the voters, is gonna.
Speaker 1: Note, Yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, this is uh, this is Shade fifty
Speaker 2: three and fifty three and eleven is their record.
Speaker 1: Fifty four and ten is the uh.
Speaker 2: Is the Calves record? So crazy, who's gonna have the
Speaker 2: best record in the NBA. Lebron is expecting to miss
Speaker 2: one to two weeks with a growing strain. According to Shams,
Speaker 2: Lebron will wait for the growing injury to calm down
Speaker 2: over the next twenty four hours and receive another evaluation. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, they've probably you know, at that point in
Speaker 2: time or Joe, you know, once it happens. Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: telling you, see, seeing how tender you are, Uh, probably
Speaker 2: has a little inflammation in there. They're probably doing the
Speaker 2: strength test to see how much strength you have in
Speaker 2: the leg, trying to keep you. Hey, don't let me
Speaker 2: push it down, Okay, don't let me pick it up,
Speaker 2: things of that nature. And so now probably that happened,
Speaker 2: what that happened last night, right Sunday, So probably tomorrow
Speaker 2: they'll get an MI for the assssitency.
Speaker 1: Where it is.
Speaker 4: You know how, based on this injury and extent, how
Speaker 4: much time will be missed or should he shut it
Speaker 4: down and just wait and allow Luca to carry everything?
Speaker 2: What you think, Well, the thing is that he's gonna
Speaker 2: try to get back. It's all going to be contingent
Speaker 2: on how serious the injury is. The last thing you
Speaker 2: want to do is come back too soon and tweak it.
Speaker 2: Now that pushs you. I think if he takes two weeks,
Speaker 2: he's played what fifty seven games, he just needs another
Speaker 2: eight games to qualify for all the NBA things of
Speaker 2: that nature. But they're in the two slot. You don't
Speaker 2: want to slide all the way down.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: They do have Luca, and that's the luxury of having
Speaker 2: two superstars that when one goes down, the other can
Speaker 2: pick up the slack.
Speaker 1: We know Luca can carry a load. Austin Reeves can help.
Speaker 2: It hurts that Ruy is not there, but because I
Speaker 2: don't know where else they're going to get the production
Speaker 2: that they need from a third scoring option is ruly
Speaker 2: not there. Phinney Smith is inconsistent. Vanderbilt is more of
Speaker 2: a defender. I like Connect, but he leaves a lot
Speaker 2: to be desired on the defensive end. He gets lost
Speaker 2: in translation a lot. But I mean and they were
Speaker 2: just if they were playing extremely well. Yes, sir, and
Speaker 2: this this happens very unfortunate. But like you said, maybe
Speaker 2: this is something.
Speaker 1: This is what you get.
Speaker 2: This is what this is why you trade for a Luca,
Speaker 2: a guy that you're gonna put the ball in his hands.
Speaker 2: He can control pace, he's gonna get to where he wants.
Speaker 2: All you gotta do is knock down shots because he's
Speaker 2: gonna find you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: They're gonna bless h They're gonna try to get the
Speaker 2: ball out of his hands. They're not gonna let him
Speaker 2: beat you. Somebody gonna be open no matter what. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: when you get the ball in your hands, you got
Speaker 2: to make your shots. That's all it comes That's all
Speaker 2: it comes down to.
Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, the Bills and Josh Allen reached an agreement
Speaker 2: on a new record setting contract six years, three hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty million, a contract that includes two hundred a
Speaker 2: quarter of a belly, the largest guarantee ever given to
Speaker 2: an NFL player. Allen had four years left on his deal.
Speaker 2: But the Rebells will reward their franchise quarterback with a
Speaker 2: new benchmark dial. The last one hundred days been pretty
Speaker 2: good for Jared Allen. On eleven nine twenty four, he
Speaker 2: got engaged to Haley Stanfield, and two six twenty five,
Speaker 2: he won his very first NFL MVP. On three nine
Speaker 2: twenty five, he agreed to the reaches richest contract in
Speaker 2: NFL history, six years, three hundred thirty million. If I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken on Joe, he gets one hundred million. No,
Speaker 2: that was that's what youa COO's contract.
Speaker 1: How much you got?
Speaker 2: He got one hundred and forty three million. How about
Speaker 2: you get guaranteed for the get two fifty fifty? I
Speaker 2: think it about Bob's gap two fifty, so that passes
Speaker 2: the Deshaun's two thirty.
Speaker 1: Remember DeShawn got two thirty. Yeah, guarantee. Basically he got
Speaker 1: his whole contract guarantee. Yeah. Yeah, he got all with
Speaker 1: eighty million. You know he is guaranteed. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You notice you notice something we talked about a few
Speaker 4: shows ago, Josh I keep saying, Jared Josh shall remember
Speaker 4: we talked about some not too long ago. When it
Speaker 4: comes to quarterbacks, Yes, every time they get married, every
Speaker 4: time they get engaged.
Speaker 1: You know what, everything else they got going on fall
Speaker 1: just start the blossom, Joe.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's I don't know if it's if it's
Speaker 4: part of tradition, if it's something that they have in
Speaker 4: a in a clause, if it's part of some type
Speaker 4: of ceremony, every single one of them that get married
Speaker 4: or gets engaged or that has a partner that is
Speaker 4: the face of a franchise, which Josh Allen is. And
Speaker 4: there's some other examples that you can probably say once
Speaker 4: I'm done talking that I can't think up right now
Speaker 4: at the top of my head. You know the Brady's,
Speaker 4: you know, the Peyton Mannings, the Drew Breeses, the Matthew
Speaker 4: step I mean, I can keep I can keep.
Speaker 1: Going on and on.
Speaker 5: A I'm a denominator. Is marriage a woman senior?
Speaker 4: Just for some reason, it seemed like everything else in
Speaker 4: life once you do that part, everything else just falls
Speaker 4: right in line.
Speaker 5: So what does that tell you and I need to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep you out the streets, keep you from chasing
Speaker 1: your home. Study it.
Speaker 2: You got a confidant, you got somebody that's that's there
Speaker 2: for you, that you can come home, you convent, you
Speaker 2: convent to it if things are not going well.
Speaker 1: They understand your situation. Baby.
Speaker 2: Look a I'm trying to be one of the I'm
Speaker 2: trying to be one of the best, if not the best,
Speaker 2: to have ever played this game.
Speaker 1: I need as as a little a distraction as possible.
Speaker 2: Now, they're gonna be days I come home and I
Speaker 2: had a bad dead work, and I'm gonna be able
Speaker 2: to bring that home to you, baby, and hopefully you understand.
Speaker 2: But Babe, you and I can never be at a
Speaker 2: build a situation where I take you to work. It
Speaker 2: can never get that bad. I'm gonna need you to understand. Baby,
Speaker 2: They're gonna bedad. They're gonna be games well I don't
Speaker 2: play well and I'm gonna be moody as hell.
Speaker 1: Theyable understand. Don't take that.
Speaker 2: Take that, don't take it of anything but love. Don't
Speaker 2: take it but anything, beloved, baby, because I do love you.
Speaker 2: But this is a very physically demanding, This is very
Speaker 2: emotionally disbanding. And this is a very psychologically demanding game.
Speaker 2: It is it plays with your mental Yeah, and babe,
Speaker 2: all I ask you to be patient with me, That's all.
Speaker 4: And look at the reward, A look at the reward
Speaker 4: with patients. Yeah, unbelievable, but listen, listen.
Speaker 2: Most guaranteed money, oh, Chorley, get before you finish your thought.
Speaker 2: Most guaranteed money Josh Allen two hundred and fifty million. Second,
Speaker 2: most guaranteed money Deshaun Watson two U thirty million. Third
Speaker 2: most guaranteed money Dak Prescott two twenty nine point four
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow to nineteen. Allan becomes the first player in
Speaker 2: the NFL history record at least twenty five touchdown passes,
Speaker 2: ten touchdown runs with fewer than ten interceptions in a
Speaker 2: single season.
Speaker 1: He finished the season.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight rushing twenty eight passing touchdowns, twelve rushing touchdown,
Speaker 2: six interceptions. In recent days, the Bills Josh Allen six
Speaker 2: years three thirty Gregory Russell four years eighty million, Terrell
Speaker 2: Barnard four years fifty million, College Shakira four years fifty
Speaker 2: three million.
Speaker 1: So you see what they're doing. They're rewarding the players
Speaker 1: that they drafted.
Speaker 2: Keep it together, because you if you go outside, you
Speaker 2: see to get a Miles Garrett, you see what you
Speaker 2: have to play? Oh yeah, you gotta put two. You
Speaker 2: gotta put two of that that what aid You gotta
Speaker 2: put two of that together. If you go get a linebacker,
Speaker 2: you see what you're gonna have to pay. You go
Speaker 2: get a wide receiver, she's gonna have to pay what
Speaker 2: do you call them? Just got a Davante just got
Speaker 2: two years and fifty two million. Jakire got four years
Speaker 2: and fifty three So if I can keep my players,
Speaker 2: and I can keep and I can give them. But
Speaker 2: you see, oh, Joe, you see a quarterback josh Allah
Speaker 2: had four years on this deal. Yeah, they make that
Speaker 2: go all the way today. They made what you call
Speaker 2: of play all the way damn near to the end
Speaker 2: of his contract.
Speaker 5: Hey, Chase, then they understand they they know you know
Speaker 5: who you can play with and you know who you can.
Speaker 1: But see, but Harry, what happened? You know what?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: You see what happened? Now the GM for the.
Speaker 2: Your Bengals, Yes, say that the combine Jamar Chase is
Speaker 2: gonna be the high Payton none quarterback.
Speaker 1: Now. I don't know if he noticed the past two days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wasn't the two quarter but two nine quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: Got Oh, Now, I told you Chase was going for
Speaker 2: north to forty because that's that's just what Miles Garrett
Speaker 2: just received.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead, talk about Miles gad Yeah, Yo, do
Speaker 2: we talking about DK? We will talk about DK. First,
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf was traded for a second rounder to the
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. The teams are flipping picks in the sixth
Speaker 2: round and seventh round as well. In twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: he was set to be in his final year of
Speaker 2: his contract, but DK is signing a new five year,
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollar contract, making the deal
Speaker 2: the largest Enfranchise history in terms of new money stealers.
Speaker 2: Wide receivers now George Pickens, Calvin Austin the third. DK
Speaker 2: Metcalf finished in the top ten among one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty eight qualified players in yards per reception in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. Alex Pearce was number one at over twenty
Speaker 2: two yards, Jamison Williams over seventeen yards, Rashad Bateman at
Speaker 2: about seventeen yards. A. J. Brown was sixteen yards, Calvin
Speaker 2: Ridley sixteen yards, Pickens was fifteen point three, and DK
Speaker 2: was fifteen and Calvin Austen was fifteen point two.
Speaker 1: So they got three guys that are big play potential.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And listen that's what I like, brother
Speaker 4: Auster Smith. You ain't got to do much. Sometimes you
Speaker 4: get players on your team that make your job a
Speaker 4: lot easier as offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Who throwing on the ball? Meal you man? Listen, we
Speaker 1: talk about DK Pickens together as a duo.
Speaker 5: I don't care.
Speaker 1: Have the sisters of the Northway quarterback for the still
Speaker 1: you getting them boys the ball? Me or you?
Speaker 4: But you ain't hear what I said. It could have
Speaker 4: been one of the sisters of the north one of
Speaker 4: the nuns. You got George Pickens, you got DK metcalf
Speaker 4: as the officer coordinator.
Speaker 1: It's not hard.
Speaker 5: You don't have to make things complicated.
Speaker 4: Understand your skill sets and the receiver that you have
Speaker 4: and put them in position to make plays.
Speaker 1: Okay, if it wasn't that hard, why was George Pickens
Speaker 1: always upset?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Because they didn't know how to get involved.
Speaker 1: Well, you say it don't matter.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm telling you how easy it is for
Speaker 4: me as a receiver now I have. They ain't got
Speaker 4: nothing to do with with what they got. They got
Speaker 4: an office. They gotta have an office. But even you
Speaker 4: had trouble getting the ball sometimes, didn't it me?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let me take some.
Speaker 4: I know you had them games like that, them games
Speaker 4: you're going to going to play, and the defense, the
Speaker 4: courting that say, you know what, I don't come hell
Speaker 4: of high water, he not beat me, not to day.
Speaker 5: I hate those kinds of days. And you have to
Speaker 5: weather the storm.
Speaker 4: Yes, obviously George Pickins being young, he didn't understand that,
Speaker 4: but he had his spare share of those games.
Speaker 1: And Jordan pick And looking like, hold on, what what what?
Speaker 1: What about?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: What? What?
Speaker 2: What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What about me? Hey?
Speaker 5: Listen, Remember I remember I told you, Remember I told
Speaker 5: you I talked.
Speaker 4: To Pickings, Right, Remember I told you, Yeah, I guarantee
Speaker 4: he don't have no problem this year. But I listen
Speaker 4: to me, your trust me, you're gonna have from pick
Speaker 4: even if he doesn't get a contract extension this year,
Speaker 4: after he played this year out with no issues, watching
Speaker 4: to get next year.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, Yeah, he gonna be all right because it's
Speaker 5: money time.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: Ain't no time to play with your bag.
Speaker 4: You work too hard to get to the point you
Speaker 4: at now. You know you've had your up and down
Speaker 4: so far early in your career. You know we've had
Speaker 4: a conversation and with great understanding, they're not gonna give
Speaker 4: you too many chances for that, too many opportunities for
Speaker 4: people that are waiting right behind you. You can't you
Speaker 4: can't blow. You can't blow the chance because you're only
Speaker 4: gonna you're only gonna get so many opportunities.
Speaker 1: But he's gonna be all right. He gonna get his money.
Speaker 1: He might not get it this year.
Speaker 4: You know this, this will be uh uh some of
Speaker 4: the portrayal here to see if you can, for one,
Speaker 4: you know, do the things the right way, not be
Speaker 4: a distraction, be on time, you know, and show up
Speaker 4: weekend and week out for the poth of mindset and
Speaker 4: contribute hard all the time and get the job done.
Speaker 1: Then you'll be rewarded on the back end, I mean
Speaker 1: pretty soon.
Speaker 2: What's gonna want? Like, hold on, bro man, y'all see
Speaker 2: what all of you guys got wa t J Watt
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, oh yeah, hold on, t J.
Speaker 1: What and top three and the top three in this
Speaker 1: position now and getting paid. I ain't got no guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: Probably got the worst t J. Watt. They got guaranteed money,
Speaker 1: not no more, no, not no more.
Speaker 2: And what happened with guys don't have guaranteed money, they
Speaker 2: start with requesting phantom trades.
Speaker 1: See that's the quicker way to get some money. Oh Joe, yeah,
Speaker 1: mm hmm. It is just like hey, listen, okay, babe,
Speaker 1: I would do right. Yeah, it worked.
Speaker 4: It worked for Miles Garrett, didn't it. Yeah, but I
Speaker 4: think he meant that though he meant that he would.
Speaker 5: He was dead serious. He was dead serious.
Speaker 2: If you let me ask you a question, if he
Speaker 2: got traded, do you think another team wouldn't have given
Speaker 2: him that money.
Speaker 5: They would have paid it.
Speaker 1: They would have paid double I mean, no disrespect.
Speaker 5: They would have paid They would overpaid it.
Speaker 2: They gave me to Dady, gave exactly what he got
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. They would have gave him that on the
Speaker 2: winning team. Oh yeah, but Miles Garrett didn't have any
Speaker 2: more guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: Yeah. On that.
Speaker 2: The stimulus Significia upgraded the wide receiver room, but still
Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback under contract for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Both Justin Fields and Russell Wilson are slated to be
Speaker 2: free agents when the new league year opens on Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: O Joe, you're the Steelers are you going out, Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers is available, maybe Kirk Cousins is available, or do
Speaker 2: you bring You're not bringing both of these guys back.
Speaker 2: It's going to be one or the other. Or are
Speaker 2: you going outside of the building to find you a
Speaker 2: quarter back?
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what's going over going on over there
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, thinking about Mike Tomlin obviously making Russell Wilson
Speaker 4: to start it once he got back from from from
Speaker 4: being injured. Knowing them, I would think they would want
Speaker 4: another veteran presence. I would say bringing a Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 4: maybe in Aaron Rodgers, I mean Aaron Rodgers would fit well.
Speaker 4: And I think maybe Justin Fields, Justin Fields comes back
Speaker 4: because he's younger. They allow, they allow Russell Wilson, who's
Speaker 4: gonna who can be the leader of men on another
Speaker 4: team and be a starter on another team, who probably
Speaker 4: will get that chance to be a start against somewhere else.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I'm not sure where what is Seattle
Speaker 5: gonna do.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about Russell Wilson making a reunion back in
Speaker 4: Seattle despite Pete Carroll not being there because Gino Smith
Speaker 4: is gone.
Speaker 1: You know like it.
Speaker 2: No, I don't see that happening. Maybe Sam Donald is
Speaker 2: gonna be available. It's looking I mean, from what I'm
Speaker 2: reading and hearing and seeing, it seems less and less likely.
Speaker 2: He's going back to Minnesota. He's gonna be available now
Speaker 2: that Matthew Stafford has found the whole. He's back with
Speaker 2: the Rams. The Jets need a quarterback, see Adam need
Speaker 2: a quarterback. Pittsburgh needs a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Hold on Sam Donald just coming.
Speaker 4: Let's let's and I mean no disrespect on Sam Donald
Speaker 4: is coming off an offense with Justin Jefferson mm hmm
Speaker 4: Addison m hm.
Speaker 5: Howkinson Honkinson. So we have to be careful by to beware.
Speaker 4: You know, we saw him without those type of receivers
Speaker 4: and what happened in New York in Jarlina and you
Speaker 4: see a resurgence in production when he goes to a
Speaker 4: team where it's supporting cast is elite. Now, teams that
Speaker 4: are that are and are are vying for Sam Donald.
Speaker 4: What do you supporting cast before you go and pay
Speaker 4: him all this money?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think you need the supporting cast and
Speaker 1: you need somebody. Kevin O.
Speaker 2: Collins one of the better offensive play callers in all
Speaker 2: the football. Yes, it is Pittsburgh in option. I don't
Speaker 2: the kind of money that he's gonna command. And you
Speaker 2: just gave a receiver thirty three basically average thirty three
Speaker 2: million a year, ohhoe, George Pickens. Basically if you don't
Speaker 2: sign help, I mean they could franchise him, but that
Speaker 2: number is probably gonna be whatever what it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: You got TJ.
Speaker 2: He's gonna probably want something out of the year because
Speaker 2: you know he gets double digit sacks every year.
Speaker 1: Every year.
Speaker 2: And it's better to pay early than to pay late late,
Speaker 2: because you see what the Cowboys did by waiting to
Speaker 2: pay micaeh playing around two guys two guys. Now, he
Speaker 2: said he doesn't want to be the highest paid, but
Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting to see. It's hard, is ojo
Speaker 2: is hard to make thirty million dollars a year and
Speaker 2: get the kind of guaranteed money that Biles Gary got.
Speaker 2: Nicole lan Congratulations, she did an unbelievable job. I met
Speaker 2: her at the UFC fight. If I'm not mis thinking,
Speaker 2: I think she's a Jalen Hurts agent too, right. Nic
Speaker 2: Cole lan h Black Superwoman, Congratulations, it's always it's always
Speaker 2: great when we do great things. I don't me and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's an option. I don't think Sam
Speaker 2: Darland is an option. He's gonna want thirty, he's gonna
Speaker 2: want thirty B. He's gonna probably want thirty five forty okay,
Speaker 2: thirty five thirty quarterback, thirty three million dollar receiver. They
Speaker 2: probably need investing offensive some offensive line. Yeah, because they
Speaker 2: I think Nigie Harris, I don't see him. I don't
Speaker 2: see him coming back. But pick up his final They
Speaker 2: didn't pick up his fiftyear option.
Speaker 1: That's rude, that huh.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm I'm I'm I'm just thinking. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to figure out the quarterback for Pittsburgh. Russell and
Speaker 2: feels have familiarity with Arthur Smith in that offense cousins.
Speaker 2: But Cousins got, you know, guaranteed money. He got another
Speaker 2: forty million guaranteed this year, Jesus. And he lacks mobility
Speaker 2: into what Miles Garrett can chase your ass down.
Speaker 4: You need somebody, you need some mobile quarterbacks, especially in
Speaker 4: today's game. The game is evolved, the position is stuff
Speaker 4: at quarterback hands evolved. You know sometimes You do have
Speaker 4: some some quarterbacks that are just strictly postive passes, but
Speaker 4: most of the quarterbacks, if you look at the landscape
Speaker 4: of the league, everybody is a dual threat. They can
Speaker 4: play off script. You know, if you call the players
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator and you go through progression, it's not there.
Speaker 4: You have a lot of quarterbacks now that can make
Speaker 4: things happen with their legs and extend plays. It's needed,
Speaker 4: you know, in today's game, unless you are elite. Unless
Speaker 4: you are elite, you know, from from from from the
Speaker 4: upper body up. You know, when it comes to what
Speaker 4: you're able to do as far as you have an.
Speaker 1: Arm, it's hard. Oh joe, Oh joe. When you look
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 2: Look at the last three quarterbacks that were just mainly stationary,
Speaker 2: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady in twelve, Yeah,
Speaker 2: all three of those guys had the all time passing
Speaker 2: yard that's mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All three possessed at one point time the most touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Did I think Drew did catch?
Speaker 2: Did Drew catch I think he did pass Peyton and
Speaker 2: then and then Brady broke his record, right, I think
Speaker 2: it's something like that.
Speaker 1: But you look at you look at what you know?
Speaker 2: Sixty plus thousand and seventy thousand yards and five hundred
Speaker 2: touchdowsand and six hundred touchdowns.
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Now the game is so athletic, it's hard for those
Speaker 2: guys to just be stationary targets, even with the process
Speaker 2: and the process, because they'll get you.
Speaker 1: Man, them guys are good every time. Those d linemen
Speaker 1: are good.
Speaker 2: They I mean d Linman now running for seven four
Speaker 2: six this ye where before Hey you got a deliber
Speaker 2: he ran four nine? Boy, he was hell. Now you
Speaker 2: got to deliber running for down. You're like, bro, what's
Speaker 2: the problem. You got bricks in your pocket? I needed Yeah,
Speaker 2: I need to know. Brady has the record at six
Speaker 2: forty nine. Drew Breenes broke Peyton mannaged record of five
Speaker 2: thirty nine with five seventy one.
Speaker 1: Tom broke Drew's record with six forty nine. Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: The number. That's a. That's a. That's a.
Speaker 2: And if those guys basically did really nothing with their legs,
Speaker 2: everything was from waiste up, then basically everything was from
Speaker 2: the neck up because none of those guys had.
Speaker 1: Mahome's arm. Now Marino's arm always arm everything.
Speaker 2: All these guys that I mentioned probably couldn't break a
Speaker 2: window with a brick, but very active.
Speaker 4: Your ass apart every time. Hey, like like a surgeon. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like a surgeon.
Speaker 2: They will go to work, calm face, giving bird on Joe,
Speaker 2: just nice and dice. Uh, but that's interesting. Now, Look,
Speaker 2: the Steelers said, made enough of this because the Steelers
Speaker 2: don't normally, Oh Joe, you know the Steelers. You play
Speaker 2: in that division, So did I. They don't normally. This
Speaker 2: is not the kind of moves they normally make.
Speaker 4: And actually they have to do this though, Huh. You know,
Speaker 4: in order to the things to change, you have to
Speaker 4: go outside of your normal routine. You gotta do things
Speaker 4: you haven't done. If the way you've been doing it
Speaker 4: it hasn't worked, and it hasn't been working. Obviously, you
Speaker 4: have the rumblings from outside, should Tom and be fired?
Speaker 5: Should Tom come back? You gotta change things.
Speaker 1: You gotta change up the way you do things.
Speaker 4: And this is kind of out of character for them,
Speaker 4: and they went out and made some move that they
Speaker 4: feel necessary to get back in attention, not only in
Speaker 4: the a FC North, but get back to the winning
Speaker 4: ways that have always been a part of you know
Speaker 4: the stealer organization engine, and how do you do that
Speaker 4: by doing stuff like this?
Speaker 2: Now you need a quarterback though, Yeah, because the Steelers
Speaker 2: normally they believe in their players. They reward their players.
Speaker 2: They don't normally take on another team burden some recumbersome contracts.
Speaker 2: That's not what they do. They signed Russ, but Denver
Speaker 2: played the bulk of that salary. They gave him a minimum.
Speaker 2: Denver was playing that thirty eight or whatever the millions
Speaker 2: will Denver plaid that. You go back and look at it.
Speaker 2: They normally get off their receivers. Look at Yancey fake pay.
Speaker 1: They let him go. Plexico, they let him go. What's
Speaker 1: your guy san Antonio home?
Speaker 2: They let him go. Sanders, they let him go, Manuel Sanders,
Speaker 2: they let him go. What's the guy that had speed
Speaker 2: for days ended up going to Mike Walla?
Speaker 1: They let him go. You see them go, They let
Speaker 1: him go. This is normally, if you go back and
Speaker 1: look at it, this is not what the Steelers normally do.
Speaker 5: But this is also the funny thing.
Speaker 4: Look at all the names you just named, right, do
Speaker 4: you understand all of them came back to back to
Speaker 4: back to back.
Speaker 2: Yes, so they've nobody could draft receiver like the Steelers
Speaker 2: or the Bank. But that's one thing they can do.
Speaker 4: They receiver killers in the Bengals. It's something about to
Speaker 4: see if you got to look, if you can go
Speaker 4: back as far as you can. The Bengals have always
Speaker 4: drafted well when it comes to receivers, because every year
Speaker 4: after the ever ends, they got another one.
Speaker 1: I was there.
Speaker 2: Oh they had Juju Gude. I forgot about Juju. I
Speaker 2: was in Cincinnati. Hies Ward Pines retired. But I'm saying
Speaker 2: all the other guys that we mentioned on Joe they left. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Antoine Roandallel left. I mean, you go back and look.
Speaker 2: I think he came back. Though he came back. I
Speaker 2: think he went to Washington, and I think he ended
Speaker 2: up coming back. If I'm not mistaken, don't quote me,
Speaker 2: but I think he might have did uh come back.
Speaker 1: But so this is very.
Speaker 2: Out of character, uncharacteristic of the Steelers trading for a
Speaker 2: guy paying him a ton of money. Steelers normally they
Speaker 2: played their own. They don't normally pay someone else. But
Speaker 2: congratulations dk Uh. Going on, he wanted to ay, he
Speaker 2: went talked, they talked about the contract. Is he wanted
Speaker 2: a contract extension.
Speaker 1: They didn't. They wasn't talking right. They wasn't talking right.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: Listen, the Seahawks blew up everything. I don't know what.
Speaker 4: I don't know what they're doing over there. They got
Speaker 4: something out there, what they got up under their sleeve.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going into the draft or
Speaker 4: they know something that they had some acquisition they're gonna
Speaker 4: get in in the offseason, or they talking to somebody.
Speaker 1: I mean, d K gone.
Speaker 4: You let you let the preacher and Tyler Tyler Lockett go.
Speaker 4: You let Gino Smith go down to Las Vegas. I mean, well,
Speaker 4: let's get into that right now.
Speaker 1: The O Joe.
Speaker 2: The Raiders have traded for Gino Smith, reuniting in with
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll the Vegas Raiders. Las Vegas gave up a
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five third round pick ninety two overall for Smith.
Speaker 2: The deal is his six year stand in Seattle, where
Speaker 2: he revived his career and became a two time Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl selection. Smith has one year left on his contract
Speaker 2: at thirty one million dollars. The Raiders are taking on
Speaker 2: all thirty one million dollars of that.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's it is.
Speaker 2: It's surprising that the Hawks are blowing this thing all
Speaker 2: up o yo, considering they were ten and seven.
Speaker 1: Of them last year. Gino gone, DK gone, Tyler Lockett gone.
Speaker 1: What's going on with.
Speaker 5: Joe hey By? Listen?
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, if I knew the answer, I'll tell you.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't understand what they're doing, especially based
Speaker 4: off what they did last year they went ten and seven.
Speaker 4: But I'm assuming front office GM ownership. They have a
Speaker 4: feeling that they can find better production elsewhere. But I
Speaker 4: don't understand how you have to have You have to
Speaker 4: have a veteran presence for one. You got to have
Speaker 4: super a superstar. I know, obviously it's a team game.
Speaker 4: It's not like basketball. We have a Luca and you
Speaker 4: know you have a Lebron James, but boy, you need
Speaker 4: a quarterback. You're not even getting nothing done without that.
Speaker 4: So the only person left right now is Jackson Smith JS.
Speaker 4: I'm just say JSN because I stayed jack Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 4: State butchered young bull names and so you got JSN.
Speaker 4: I know he's sitting there like that fresh friends mean
Speaker 4: with fresh, we will Smith just sitting in the middle
Speaker 4: of the house, in the house empty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4: Throw the ball man, listen, And that's the most important part,
Speaker 4: especially if you're serious about winning, if you're serious about winning,
Speaker 4: especially coming off for ten to seven season.
Speaker 1: So listen, here's might roll. Well, this was a this
Speaker 1: was a methodical process.
Speaker 2: This happened in twenty thirteen. Wait the who when Seattle
Speaker 2: didn't give that ball to beas more that into Seattle
Speaker 2: because they started dismanted, like oh, Joe, piece by piece,
Speaker 2: cam leaves, April leaves being at leaves, every piece, sharm leaves,
Speaker 2: earl lea. Yeah, boom, there's no more legion the boom
Speaker 2: that was there. Now those receivers they start to uh,
Speaker 2: what was the one that.
Speaker 1: What eighty nine? What's his name? Doug Bowling? We had
Speaker 1: some boom.
Speaker 2: He starts to leave a lot of boom, and you see,
Speaker 2: O Joe systematically be smold gone, russ gone, piece by piece.
Speaker 4: It's the nature of here we are. It's the nature
Speaker 4: of the venice. It's a slow leak, and you never
Speaker 4: notice it until all the water is gone. And that's
Speaker 4: exactly what they hit. Now all the water is gone
Speaker 4: and you got one dude, Well, this is what y'all
Speaker 4: left me with.
Speaker 1: Oh and and remember they ended up let it be
Speaker 1: wags go. Malcolm Smith gone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they did let Bobby go down to the commanders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm. That's crazy. So that was that was
Speaker 1: the beginning of the end.
Speaker 2: I used to have a podcast podcast called Miles and
Speaker 2: Off and I'll never forget it. O Joe, I said
Speaker 2: it that that was the son that went. I said,
Speaker 2: they will never be the same. That said it's over. Yeah,
Speaker 2: never gonna be same. You were right then, I go
Speaker 2: believe they're not gonna believe. They're not gonna believe. They're
Speaker 2: not gonna trust Pete anymore. And Pete and them had
Speaker 2: a tendency. They threw the ball down there on one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of the time. And that situation where three
Speaker 2: receivers on the field, they didn't break tendency. Dang, gotta
Speaker 2: break tendency. Sometimes you have to scout yourself. I mean
Speaker 2: we would always after every so often we take time
Speaker 2: to scout ourselves. Oh, Joe, and this formation we're eighty
Speaker 2: percent of this. We've got to break tendencies. And this
Speaker 2: formation we're ninety percent of this. And this formation we
Speaker 2: throw the ball one hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 1: We got to run it. Some guys, you got this.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to scout yourself, and you don't want
Speaker 2: to have to do it after something catastrophic has happened.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Probably they go back and look at it. Man, that
Speaker 2: three receiver said, one man, we throw the ball and
Speaker 2: you run. That moment, the moment that slot receiver is pressed,
Speaker 2: you got an audible Yeah, I mean listen because because
Speaker 2: because he's not gonna be able to push up feel
Speaker 2: to make the corner of the outside guy bubble, he
Speaker 2: has to make him bubble. If he does make him bubble,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, he has a straight line and he's gonna beat.
Speaker 1: Your guy to the ball every time. Every time.
Speaker 2: Once you saw because normally you see it because when
Speaker 2: you get a formation like that, one guy needs to
Speaker 2: be off and one guy needs to be pressed to
Speaker 2: make sure you don't get picked. Right. That's why if
Speaker 2: you notice a lot of times they're like, hey, one
Speaker 2: of us got a press. One of us playoffs so
Speaker 2: we don't get picked. Well, if you go back and look,
Speaker 2: Butler was off, Brandon Browner was in the slot he pressed.
Speaker 4: I would have came up off of that so fast
Speaker 4: and understanding what was Brandon brown the strength.
Speaker 1: He gonna hold. Yeah, what are you gonna do? And her.
Speaker 2: You already in a tight alignment. Where are you gonna
Speaker 2: go run into the tackle? He knows that you got
Speaker 2: to push up yep, because how many times you think
Speaker 2: he saw that when he was in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Come, I'm black.
Speaker 2: So now slot half pressed, he doesn't get off. Butler
Speaker 2: right there, don't have the bubble. Everything went well because
Speaker 2: o Joe, more time than not, he the guys ain't
Speaker 2: catching that ball. Oh Jo, that's point blank.
Speaker 1: Think about it.
Speaker 2: Think about how close that was because they're on the
Speaker 2: one so as let's just say if Russell take a
Speaker 2: three step drop, so that's only six yards and Russell
Speaker 2: is firing the ball, he's coming this way and the
Speaker 2: ball's coming that way, and he catches it. He catches it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy, it is.
Speaker 1: But Seattle, I hope y'all guys know what y'all doing
Speaker 1: because that division.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I think it's all gonna be contingent
Speaker 2: on what happens with a party. I'm sure they're gonna
Speaker 2: try to get him done. The Rams look good. They
Speaker 2: got Davonte, now, they got Pooka, they got Kyri Williams.
Speaker 2: Stafford is back. They got us defense defense is really
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 1: And you know how difficult it is to go from well,
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup that Cooper Cupp hasn't been released and hasn't
Speaker 1: been traded yet.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, what happened if they keep cut up? But
Speaker 4: they can't with that cap number? Right, with that number,
Speaker 4: I know, you know.
Speaker 1: How hard you're gonna take a pay cut.
Speaker 5: You know how hard it is to go from one
Speaker 5: route runner to another.
Speaker 4: That just that just is good, if not better, and
Speaker 4: bringing Davonte Adams in in the right type of system.
Speaker 5: M man, it's gonna beautiful over there.
Speaker 2: The volume mhm