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Speaker 3: In the war'sesday March Smith and you're our lord.

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Speaker 3: Speak down live in Miami. We're going to let him

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Speaker 1: Patrick Weaver, Phil Haigseth who I happen to know, and

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Speaker 2: Single day in Washington.

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Speaker 1: I hope you know are working hard to run as

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Speaker 1: fast as you are to stand alongside you in this mission.

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Speaker 1: This is not a conference with flags, so we can

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Speaker 5: I can tell you that if I sold that.

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Speaker 1: To President Trump is the objective, he'd kick me out

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Speaker 1: of his office. This is an operational conference to bring

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Speaker 1: our countries more closely together to achieve a shared objective and.

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Speaker 2: Do so aggressively.

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Speaker 3: This is not a one race street.

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Speaker 1: Every partner in this region has to do more and

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Speaker 6: In your security as well.

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Speaker 1: We like you want a hemisphere of sovereign, secure, and

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Speaker 2: Action from all of us.

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Speaker 5: You know, our schools used.

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Speaker 1: To teach American school children about our blessed history. Every

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Speaker 3: What I like to say is here at the Department

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Speaker 1: We're in the seventeen seventy five business, which is when

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Speaker 1: Without the force of arms, without our militaries, we cannot

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Speaker 3: With Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: In the Oval Office and with all of you here,

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Speaker 1: we can still realize that long ago dream of James Monroe.

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Speaker 1: In our time, we will make the Americas great again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and God bless you.

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Speaker 7: The United States and its partners have launched Operation Epic Fury.

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Speaker 1: The most lethal, most complex, and most precise aerial operation

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Speaker 8: Our military in the Middle East is undertaking an unprecedented

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Speaker 6: Been doing for nearly half a century.

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Speaker 8: We are also sinking the Iranian Navy, the entire navy.

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Speaker 1: We didn't start this war, but under President Trump, we

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Speaker 7: Combat operations continue at this time in full force, and

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Speaker 11: Now we're we're engaged in military action against the mothership

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Speaker 11: Really ice they have money because of the bill we

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Speaker 11: So in the appropriations process we've got no new money

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Speaker 1: This is the final scream of a dying regime. Pray

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Speaker 1: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.

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Speaker 1: There's not got a free shot or all these networks

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Speaker 5: The people have had a belly full of it. I

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Speaker 6: To stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

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Speaker 3: And where do people like that go to share the

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Speaker 2: Mega media?

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Speaker 3: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 12: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 7: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 2: Worry use your host, Stephen k Man.

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Speaker 3: You're in the worm.

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Speaker 4: It's Thursday, March fifth, in the Year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. That first video that we played, that

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Speaker 4: I guess the non war war depends who you ask.

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Speaker 3: Ongoing combat operation. We're going to go through all of it.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of signal, a lot of

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Speaker 4: So I want to start with Kurt Mills, and Kurt,

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Speaker 12: So, obviously the start of the war has not gone

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Speaker 12: There is some reporting from Axios a day or two

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Speaker 12: nothing to report about whether or not there are back channels.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, I think on two main vertices. So number

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Speaker 12: The Iranians are not Venezuela as much as the president

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Speaker 12: I think they're obviously moving the origin window both on

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Speaker 5: They were not ruling it out.

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Speaker 4: That Kurt, we got a bounce to break. But if

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Speaker 3: I want your reactions to. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 13: I know you have to keep a lot of cards

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Speaker 13: close to the vest on this, but we've already lost

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Speaker 13: six troops, sir. The President says he does expect more.

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Speaker 13: The President has yet to rule that out.

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Speaker 14: I certainly hope not. If there are boots on the ground,

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Speaker 6: So you know, we're.

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Speaker 15: Go ahead, could you tell us about the president's current

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Speaker 15: if they were to be sent into Iran, what would

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Speaker 2: What's the situation.

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Speaker 16: Well, they're not part of the plan for this operation

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Speaker 3: You're back in the war.

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Speaker 4: We still got Kurt Mills, Brian Kennedy going to be

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Speaker 3: To call it, shakes out.

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Speaker 4: But I do think It's important to note that the second, third,

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Speaker 4: Even if it's not actual kinetic, traditional boots on the

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Speaker 4: I guess that's always on display. But there's still orders

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would pause it. I think in.

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Speaker 12: Okay, well, first, I think you're right the flag, the

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Speaker 5: Frankly, like, does it even occur to him?

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Speaker 12: The causality here, it's really not clear if he doesn't

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Speaker 12: To your actual question, my apologies as to boots on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that Lindsay Graham clip, I think sort of gets

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Speaker 3: You know what I'll say, and then I'll toss it

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Speaker 3: to you, Kurt.

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Speaker 4: It is the flippancy with which they treat American lives

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Speaker 4: and the American homeland. Yet the way that they speak

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Speaker 4: they have the revolutionary spirit and the American people, well, sorry,

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Speaker 4: you just have to sit down and accept a terrorist

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Speaker 4: attack because Raytheon wants to make a little bit more

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Speaker 4: money despite being years behind on all their drone orders,

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Speaker 4: that we should be able to have actual weapons stockpiles,

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Speaker 4: but apparently we don't because you know, defense primes are

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Speaker 4: the way the Pentagon wants to go, Kurt.

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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of debate.

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Speaker 4: Going on right now, back and forth and mag I'm

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Speaker 4: sure some of the comments section probably Getter is lighting

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Speaker 4: me up for that. But I think the difference between

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Speaker 4: our side and the left is that we can have

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Speaker 4: disagreements and you don't have to hate the.

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Speaker 3: People who are sharing these viewpoints.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what makes our side really unique. What

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Speaker 4: would your pitch to people who are listening to you

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Speaker 4: and are wanting to pull their hair out saying you're skeptical,

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Speaker 4: you're a Trump doomer, you don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they'd say, we're probably both too young, we

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Speaker 4: don't know, we're.

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Speaker 3: Too anti war.

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Speaker 4: What would your pitch be saying that you represent actual

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Speaker 4: real maga which is first.

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Speaker 12: I mean the people who are dying, the service people

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Speaker 12: are young people, so I feel like they get a vote,

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Speaker 12: and I think the perspective matters. And I mean the sergeant,

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Speaker 12: the lay sergeant that you flagged, his life was tragically

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Speaker 12: bookmarked by I mean he's he was born after nine

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Speaker 12: on terror that is arguably still going that hasn't ended

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Speaker 12: even with the exhaustion of his life.

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Speaker 5: And so it's just awful. And I think it's not.

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Speaker 12: In the American national interest to be fighting this war

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Speaker 12: or really to particularly care about what happens one way

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Speaker 12: or the other in the Middle East. As to the

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Speaker 12: point that you make about the right having a robust

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Speaker 12: conversation right now, yeah, I think it's a good thing,

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Speaker 12: and I think it is something.

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Speaker 5: That makes the right better than the left.

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Speaker 12: I remember people, well, remember the Ukraine debate four years ago.

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Speaker 12: The left shut down the conversation, They excised any left

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Speaker 12: wing critics of the Ukraine War. They tried to cancel

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Speaker 12: the Congressional Progressive Call because from even writing a strongly

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Speaker 12: worded letter about the Ukraine warhead of the midterms and

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Speaker 12: the rights not doing that. The right is having a small,

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Speaker 12: d democratic, robust, vibrant conversation, and I think that's a

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Speaker 12: good thing. I think that is the milu in which

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Speaker 12: Trump came to power in twenty sixteen and rose back

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Speaker 12: in twenty twenty four, and I think it would be

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Speaker 12: the key to enduring conservative and Republican victories in the future.

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Speaker 12: There's this idea that there shouldn't be a fight. There's

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Speaker 12: an idea that there shouldn't be a contest. I don't

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Speaker 12: remember the twenty sixteen primary, or the twenty twenty four primary,

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Speaker 12: or the Trump era in general being polite or closed minded,

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Speaker 12: and so I think we should welcome this discussion.

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Speaker 5: As to the age point that you're.

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Speaker 12: Making, I mean, yeah, I mean, I guess maybe we're

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Speaker 12: too young, but I'm not that young. I mean I'm

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Speaker 12: pretty much aged out. Not that I'm applying, but I

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Speaker 12: would I'm pretty much aged.

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Speaker 5: Out to be in the special forces.

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Speaker 12: The special Forces that we're going to be people who

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Speaker 12: are pretty much younger than me who potentially would die

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Speaker 12: in this Iran war. So I think it is relevant

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Speaker 12: when millennials and gen z think and it is the future.

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Speaker 12: And I think if you turn your back on the future,

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Speaker 12: we run the risk of running an increasingly you know

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Speaker 12: it already is, but it even more laughably deemtocratic society.

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Speaker 3: Kurtmels.

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Speaker 4: If people want to follow you read the magazine, where

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Speaker 4: can they go leave some comments?

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it. Where can they go to do that?

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Speaker 5: The magazine was founded in two thousand and two by

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Speaker 5: Patrick J. Buchanan.

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Speaker 12: The Tucker Carlson of his age he founded with conservatives

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Speaker 12: and friends against the Iraq War in two thousand and two.

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Speaker 12: It's at the American Conservative dot com. My own personal

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Speaker 5: Thank you Natalie, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You Kurt for joining us. We'll have you back. Brian

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Speaker 3: Kennedy after the shortbreak, don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Brian Kennedy.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm all for.

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Speaker 4: Open discussion and debate. I know the comment section you

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Speaker 4: guys like to get heated.

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Speaker 3: I'm all for it. That's passionate. It is in ship

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Speaker 3: your patriotic duty.

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Speaker 4: I just always say, asking for clarity from the administration,

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Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with that. But I want to bring

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Speaker 4: on some different perspectives we got Brian Kennedy. Brian, I

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Speaker 4: want to get into the also kind of implications on

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Speaker 4: other regions, particularly with the Chinese and Taiwan and all that.

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Speaker 4: But before we pivot to you know, my favorite topic

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Speaker 4: to discuss your sort of thoughts on the you know,

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Speaker 4: Kurt mills am con worldview, the assessment of where we.

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Speaker 3: Stand now do you agree? What where do you maybe differ?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Well, kurtsismark guy. First of all, great to be with you, Natalie.

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Speaker 17: I'm always good to be with you. Kurtsis Mark guy,

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Speaker 17: and I understand his perspective. But the fact is the

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Speaker 17: president is anti war. I'm anti war, as are many

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Speaker 17: of the maga, you know base. So the President wouldn't

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Speaker 17: have done this, President Trump, if he didn't think something

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Speaker 17: would really serious here. He himself, you know, tried diplomacy,

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Speaker 17: didn't want to go to war. He moved a third

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Speaker 17: of the navy over there for sure, because he thought

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Speaker 17: there was something imminent going on and he was concerned

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Speaker 17: about that. But he would prefer not to go to war.

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Speaker 17: This is a very risky thing he's done. But war

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Speaker 17: is a risky business. And so he did it because

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Speaker 17: he thought that the benefits of doing it would outweigh

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Speaker 17: those risks. And I would humbly say that it's an unfortunate,

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Speaker 17: you know, byproduct of war that young men die. You know,

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Speaker 17: Sergeant Cody, who you showed earlier, he died for the

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Speaker 17: United States of America and its national security, for the

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Speaker 17: people of the country, and we should be very proud

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Speaker 17: of him. But we also have to remember as we

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Speaker 17: remember him, that's very difficult to fight wars, trying to

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Speaker 17: pull on the heartstrings of Americans every day by showing

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Speaker 17: the young dead. Fortunate thing, it's the most unfortunate thing.

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Speaker 17: But these things happen, and they only happen because war

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Speaker 17: is a very deadly business. And the President wouldn't have

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Speaker 17: put us on this path unless he thought it was

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Speaker 17: absolutely necessary. And you said earlier that this wasn't an

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Speaker 17: imminent threat. Or for forty seven years, you know, we've

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Speaker 17: been arguing with Iran and this is not an imminent threat.

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Speaker 17: Well how do we know that, Well, we don't. We

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Speaker 17: can surmise what's going on. But Iran was working on

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Speaker 17: nuclear weapons. They had the option of foregoing their work

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Speaker 17: on nuclear weapons, they wouldn't do it. What does that

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Speaker 17: tell us, Well, it tells us that Iran is serious

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Speaker 17: about being a regional power with nuclear weapons. Everyone says, well,

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Speaker 17: this is just carrying out Israeli foreign policy.

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Speaker 6: Well it may be.

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Speaker 17: Certainly the Israelis have an interest in this, but so

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Speaker 17: do the Saudis, so do the Qataris, so to the

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Speaker 17: other Emirate states. No one wants Iran to have nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 17: And I would say, when it comes to those nuclear weapons,

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Speaker 17: the purpose of those was first and foremost the United States.

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Speaker 17: They're not going to use their nuclear weapons if they

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Speaker 17: acquire them. And I've said before on the show, I

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Speaker 17: think they already do, but they wouldn't use those against Israel.

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Speaker 6: They knew if they use them against.

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Speaker 17: Israel that would be meant with nuclear retaliation against Iran.

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Speaker 17: So it wasn't really in the equation that they were

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Speaker 17: going to attack Israel. Who could they attack, Well, they

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Speaker 17: do it from the territory of Iran. Their own Iranian

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Speaker 17: nuclear strategic doctrine is to be able to launch a

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Speaker 17: nuclear ballistic missile from a ship, presumably off the coast

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Speaker 17: the United States. Now, the mere fact that that hasn't

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Speaker 17: happened before now is not at all indicative of what

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Speaker 17: could happen in the future. And President Trump had certain

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Speaker 17: intelligence he must have to lead him to believe that

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Speaker 17: that was going to happen sometime in the future, and

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Speaker 17: that he wasn't going to let that progress any further.

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Speaker 17: Hence where we are today. So for all the folks

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Speaker 17: who think this is a neocon project, President Trump's not

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Speaker 17: a neocon, And I don't even think that people around

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Speaker 17: him are necessarily neocons. They're people who are looking at

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Speaker 17: the hard facts of the Iranian nuclear program in discerning

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Speaker 17: that they cannot have nuclear weapons, which they will use

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Speaker 4: I'm curious because Senator, I believe with Senator Cotton, was

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Speaker 4: the Senator was talking about the reason why we went

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Speaker 4: in is that Iran has been an imminent threat for

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Speaker 4: forty seven years, which I do think is sort of

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Speaker 4: an oxymoronic sentence.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I understand it. I agree with your cestiment.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the President is a neocon.

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Speaker 4: Either, But I'm curious, then, how you square this idea

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Speaker 4: Defense Strategy, the National Security Strategy, or even a lot

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Speaker 4: of the press post Midnight Hammer saying that Iran was

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Speaker 4: even use the word, you know, obliterated as we've ever seen,

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Speaker 4: which for me makes it a little hard to square

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Speaker 4: that positioning of Iran with Then you know this was

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Speaker 4: going to be the time that they would attack, And

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Speaker 4: I would also tack on there. I'll ask you a

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Speaker 3: But who's to say too that going in.

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Speaker 4: Like this when a clear successor, it's clearly not, you know,

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Speaker 4: a Venezuela type operation. I also do think the fact

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Speaker 4: at least from like a.

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Speaker 3: Sleeper cell perspective.

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Speaker 4: But who's to say that changing the regime there even

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Speaker 4: necessarily results in a non nuclear or nuclear seeking state.

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Speaker 4: Who's to say that we don't get a more radicalized ran.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that's a great question, Natalie. It's a good observation too. Look,

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Speaker 17: when we think of Venezuela, we didn't change the regime

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Speaker 17: in Venezuela. We changed the mind of the regime in Venezuela.

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Speaker 17: So when the president says of Venezuela type operation or

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Speaker 17: Venezuela type regime change, it's changing the mind of the

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Speaker 17: regime that they're going to believe that attacking the United

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Speaker 17: States is a good thing. Look in Iran, there is

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Speaker 17: very very little what you would call an American terms

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Speaker 17: civil society, meaning people who form public groups, who can

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Speaker 17: understand the public good, who can work towards civil engagement,

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Speaker 17: in the production of a government that has the interests

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Speaker 17: of the people at heart.

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Speaker 6: That's not going to happen in Iran.

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Speaker 17: And the failure of the neocons was believing that they

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Speaker 17: could create that in the Middle.

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Speaker 6: East, in Iraq and elsewhere. That was a gross failure.

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Speaker 17: So I can see why many young folks think that

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Speaker 17: the use of American military power and engagement is a

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Speaker 17: bad idea because our past history, prior, i will say

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Speaker 17: to President Trump, has been to use American military force

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Speaker 17: and American military power in a most ineffective and frankly

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Speaker 17: stupid way. Thinking we were going to democratize at Rock

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Speaker 17: was a very stupid idea. We're not going to democratize Iran.

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Speaker 17: We're not going to create in Iran any kind of

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Speaker 17: you know, free society. That's not our job. That is

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Speaker 17: the job of the Iranian people. But even then that's

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Speaker 17: not likely to happen because they don't have a civil society.

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Speaker 17: From whence this will come. So you're going to get

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Speaker 17: some kind of Islamic theocricy probably or an Islamic military

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Speaker 17: dictatorship quite likely that that is the quite likely outcome.

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Speaker 17: But it will be a dictatorship that has the interests

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Speaker 17: of Iran at heart, and that interest in Iran will

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Speaker 17: be not to attack the United States, not to build

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Speaker 17: nuclear weapons, and to keep to themselves. And so we

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Speaker 17: should have and I don't think the President has any

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Speaker 17: illusions that we're going to create a free society in Iran.

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Speaker 17: He does have the very clear objective of making sure

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Speaker 17: that in Iran you have a regime that believes nuclear

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Speaker 17: weapons are a very bad idea and that trying to

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Speaker 17: kill Americans is an even worse idea. And so from

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Speaker 17: that point of view, this seems perfectly consistent with the

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Speaker 17: America First approach of MAGA and actually a rejection of

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Speaker 17: Neo Kon ideology. And look, Lindsey Graham is a ridiculous

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Speaker 17: human being, and so you know the fact that the

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Speaker 17: people who are for the war are many of them

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Speaker 17: are ridiculous human beings, doesn't make the objectives of this

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Speaker 17: military engagement Iran wrong or in any way, you know,

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Speaker 17: discount what it is President Trump's trying to achieve here.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious your perspective both the kind of you know,

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Speaker 4: du jour de fact actually what the admin is pursuing.

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Speaker 3: But then your opinion too, when.

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Speaker 4: You talk about these sort of security guarantees, you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe accepting some sort of Islamic theocratic regime, but as

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Speaker 4: long as they're not explicit seeking to attack the United States,

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Speaker 4: there's some form of compromise there.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that the kind.

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Speaker 4: Of calculus for that also includes Israel and our allies

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Speaker 4: and partners in the region, or do you think that

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Speaker 4: that is something that President Trump is negotiating purely from

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Speaker 4: it's only about America, Or do you think our partners

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Speaker 4: junior partners every want to call them, in the region

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Speaker 4: are also part.

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Speaker 3: Of that too.

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Speaker 17: I think President Trump is doing first and foremost what

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Speaker 17: is good for America. And the fact that you hear

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Speaker 17: these stories of Israel not knowing what these back channel

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Speaker 17: deals are or potential potential negotiations are, is a sign

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Speaker 17: that the President's going to do what he thinks is best.

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Speaker 17: It may benefit Israel in the long run, and it

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Speaker 17: may benefit Saudi Arabia in the long run, but his

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Speaker 17: first and only interest here is what's good for the

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Speaker 17: United States. And I really can't I can't I'm a

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Speaker 17: little you know, the young folks with the Maga movement

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Speaker 17: who don't understand that, I think simply don't have enough.

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Speaker 17: I would encourage them to look deeper into what the

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Speaker 17: President's objectives are and not have a reflective sort of

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Speaker 17: dislike of military engagements because they think it will lead

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Speaker 17: to a broader war. And let me say, this may

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Speaker 17: lead to a broader war, and I hope it doesn't.

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Speaker 17: But you know, we've been talking on this on War

747
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Speaker 17: Room for some time about us being in World War three,

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Speaker 17: and this is one front in World War three, and

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Speaker 17: you simply can't you can't dismiss this notion that the

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Speaker 17: President sees it that way and that he wants to

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Speaker 17: take Iran off the table because China, because Iran is

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Speaker 17: a proxy of Communist China, and so the communist Chinese

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Speaker 17: interest here has to be first and foremost. And frankly,

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Speaker 17: I'm worried about Islamic terrorism in the United States. I'm

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Speaker 17: also worried about the two hundred thousand Chinese men of

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Speaker 17: military age who look like special forces who came over

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Speaker 17: during the Biden administration and what they could be doing

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Speaker 17: in our country and what they are doing in our

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Speaker 17: country is, as you pointed out in your own in

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Speaker 17: your own investigative reporting.

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Speaker 3: And so Brian, we're going to have to jump to

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Speaker 3: break shortly. I want to. I want to hold you

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Speaker 3: through because you're you're just ahead of me. I want

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Speaker 3: to get to the China on all this.

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Speaker 4: I will say it was recently on the campus of

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Speaker 4: Stanford and I actually saw a Chinese national jogging there

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Speaker 4: wearing a PLA T shirt. So that doesn't tell you

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Speaker 4: the threat that we face then, I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: don't know it does, Brian, if you can hang with us,

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Speaker 4: I love asking questions like this. I agree young people

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Speaker 4: maybe have a bit of a reflexive kind of trigger

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Speaker 4: point on this.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's important.

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Speaker 4: To ask these questions and get the information out there

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Speaker 4: so everyone in the audience can can hear some different viewpoints.

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Speaker 3: Or We'll be right back more Brian Kennedy on the

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Speaker 3: China threat. All things are on right after this break?

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Speaker 6: Are you.

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Speaker 2: Use your whole Stephen k.

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Speaker 4: You're back in the war room. We've still got Brian

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Speaker 4: Kennedy with us. Brian, I want to sort of let

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Speaker 4: you pick up where you left off, but I just

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Speaker 4: want to pose sort of the broader question, obviously, how

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Speaker 4: does this implicate the PRC. I think the Taiwan question,

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Speaker 4: I'll give you this to start you off, for what

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Speaker 4: is it. I think every day for the past I

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Speaker 4: don't know how many years, the Chinese Air Force they've

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Speaker 4: done their military kind of air incursions over Taiwan. I

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Speaker 4: think in Taian every day, multiple times a day. And

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Speaker 4: I think for the last three days at least, open

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Speaker 4: source intelligence.

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Speaker 3: Is showing us that they've stopped.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious how you interpret that more broadly the paradigm.

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Speaker 4: Do you think America's actions, whether it's a Round or Venezuela,

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Speaker 4: emboldens the PRC to be more aggressive with Taiwan, or

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Speaker 4: do you think it shows them that the United States

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Speaker 4: is not going to mess around and you know, put

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Speaker 4: up with any of their kind of attempts to meddle there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question to it to Natalie.

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Speaker 17: I think what that shows is that the Chinese don't

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Speaker 17: want to escalate things right now, that this is a

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Speaker 17: very dangerous time in world history. We have a lot

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Speaker 17: of our military over in that part of the world.

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Speaker 17: We're doing very serious things in Iran, and the Chinese

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Speaker 17: do not want to do the kind of things to

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Speaker 17: provoke us right now, and so let us hope that

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Speaker 17: cooler heads prevail, as they say, and that China, China

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Speaker 17: sees this as something that's being done in America's interest

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Speaker 17: and that they're not going to do the kind of

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Speaker 17: things to provoke us, especially visa v.

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Speaker 6: Taiwan.

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Speaker 17: But you know, I want to underscore the fact that

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Speaker 17: these things are not desirable to have done. But the

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Speaker 17: President did it because he thought he had to do it,

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Speaker 17: and so there's something bigger going on here. This is

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Speaker 17: a much bigger war, and him going after Maduro in

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Speaker 17: Venezuela is in my mind, designed to take a Chinese

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Speaker 17: proxy off the table. If he does go after Cuba

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Speaker 17: or encourage regime change in Cuba, that won't be a

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Speaker 17: neocon you know, expeditionary kind of you know engagement. That

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Speaker 17: will be because the President believes China can't have a

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Speaker 17: proxy or the Russians can't have a proxy in Cuba.

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Speaker 17: And that's American interest being defined and operated on, rather

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Speaker 17: than some kind of Neocon democratizing the world kind of approach.

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Speaker 4: Brian, I'm asking you tough questions, but it's because I

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Speaker 4: respect you very much.

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Speaker 3: I think you're one of the best guests we have

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Speaker 3: on Warrew.

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Speaker 4: But I'm curious how you square the idea of using

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Speaker 4: kinetic action to take Chinese proxies off the map with

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Speaker 4: then the administration also, for instance, you know, canceling arm

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Speaker 4: sales or arm transfers to Taiwan, or green lighting the

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Speaker 4: H two hundred chips kind of giving them some of

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Speaker 4: our most sensitive and high value tech transfers. How do

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Speaker 4: you see that kind of squaring with this more kinetic

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Speaker 4: force to take out Chinese proxies.

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Speaker 17: Well, that's that, you know, that's a great question too.

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Speaker 17: The administration should not be selling our advanced chips to

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Speaker 17: communist China. I'm for decumpling a systematic decoupling with communist

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Speaker 17: China entirely, as you know. And I'm for selling arms

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Speaker 17: to Taiwan and doing it at a rapid pace. And

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Speaker 17: our so called military industrial complex needs to be more

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Speaker 17: industrial and industrious in producing munitions for us so that

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Speaker 17: we can sell them to whatever country that is in

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Speaker 17: our interest to sell them to. And so, yes, the

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Speaker 17: Administration should be more consistent when it comes to that.

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Speaker 17: They should be making sure that Communist China does not

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Speaker 17: have access to US capital markets. They shouldn't have Communist

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Speaker 17: China being able to buy up US farmland. They should

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Speaker 17: be buying back from Communist China the farmland they've already bought.

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Speaker 17: We need to get much more serious about Communist China.

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Speaker 17: And in the meantime, we have to use kinetic action

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Speaker 17: to make sure that Communist China's proxies around the world

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Speaker 17: are defanged, as Captain Fanel said yesterday, from being able

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Speaker 17: to harm the United States. And look, we talk about

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Speaker 17: nuclear war and nuclear weapons. Where the cause for President

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Speaker 17: Trump going into Iran, And because we've not had a

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Speaker 17: nuclear war doesn't mean there won't be one someday. And

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Speaker 17: President Trump is trying to avoid that. And he only

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Speaker 17: would have done that believed that whatever track Iran was

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Speaker 17: on would have led to that eventuality, or that they

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Speaker 17: already had them, and he wanted to degrade their capability

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Speaker 17: of ever being able to use them. And so as

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Speaker 17: as undesirable as many of these things are, they were

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Speaker 17: done for a reason, and a very serious reason. And

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Speaker 17: you wouldn't have done it unless that reason was very serious.

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Speaker 3: And Brian, we've got about two minutes left.

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Speaker 4: I want you to just to sort of sketch what

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Speaker 4: you think the contours of both a politically you know,

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Speaker 4: positive but also geopolitically safe kind of off ramp or

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Speaker 4: timeline would look like. Specifically in Iran, what that you

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Speaker 4: know kind of level of escalation would be.

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Speaker 3: What is the kind of you know, crescendo. Are we

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Speaker 3: there yet? Are you expecting more action there?

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Speaker 4: Or when do you think the administration or buy when

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Speaker 4: do you think they need to you know, colloquially we

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Speaker 4: would call it get out.

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Speaker 6: Here's the easy answer. I don't know.

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Speaker 17: The administration has certain objectives when it comes to degrading

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Speaker 17: their military capability. I would say that we should leave

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Speaker 17: when the Iranian regime, whoever that is, believes they've been defeated,

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Speaker 17: not only defeated, but that they know they've been defeated,

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Speaker 17: and that they believe deep within them that it is

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Speaker 17: a bad idea to think about attacking the United States

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Speaker 17: in what whatever way they can look. For forty seven

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Speaker 17: years they've committed textbooked acts of war against the United States,

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Speaker 17: whether it was taking our embassy or using surrogates to

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Speaker 17: kill our men in Beirut, or you know, the final

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Speaker 17: pre flight training of the nine to eleven Hijackers was

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Speaker 17: in Iran. After September eleventh, Osama bin Laden the family

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Speaker 17: lived in Iran. Osama been a lot of the diaries,

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Speaker 17: have you know, a lot of correspondence with his colleagues

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Speaker 17: about we don't like the Iranians, but they provide us

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Speaker 17: money and intelligence and then they provide them munitions in

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Speaker 17: Iraq to kill Americans.

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Speaker 6: So they've been doing this.

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Speaker 3: For a long right.

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Speaker 4: And I hate to interrupt you, but we're coming up

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Speaker 4: against the end of show, and I'm actually tossing to Steve,

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Speaker 4: so don't worry war imposse you.

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Speaker 3: Get Steve back. But Brian, if people.

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Speaker 4: Want your commentary on this, which I know they do,

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Speaker 4: where can they go to follow you and get your writings?

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Speaker 17: Thank you Natalie on X it's Brian T. Kennedy, one

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Speaker 17: on getter and true socialist, Brian T. Kennedy, And they

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Speaker 17: can go to Present Danger China dot Org. Thanks great

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Speaker 17: to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I must follow Brian. Thank you for joining, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: For putting up with my questions. I think discussions like

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Speaker 4: this are important to have. You know, America first, it's

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Speaker 4: quite an explosive term, but we're here to defend that.

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Speaker 4: In the warm Steve Bannon picking up after the break,

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Speaker 4: Have a good one, wo